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TV Boss Set To Drop A File-Sharing Bomb On Digital Britain

The Commissioning Editor for Education at the UK’s Channel 4 will publish an essay tomorrow that is guaranteed to cause controversy. Noting that people will never go back to paying for music, Alice Taylor vehemently opposes plans to disconnect Internet users on a simple accusation, labeling the entities calling for it as “dying behemoths”.

For years now we have heard the loud voices of those representing the movie, music and TV industries as they call for tougher and tougher legislation in order to force people to consume media, their way. These entities really believe that the file-sharing genie can be somehow squeezed back into the bottle by the use of overwhelming force. The battle lines have been drawn but make no mistake, these tactics will not win this war – the Internet and empowerment of the individual has put an end to all that.

Considering the aggressiveness shown by some elements of the aforementioned groups – who would have infringers permanently kicked off the Internet if they could have their way – it is very rare indeed for influential people traditionally placed in the pro-copyright camp to make statements that are in harmony with their supposed opposition. Tomorrow, therefore, should prove a very interesting day.

After moving on from her position as Vice President of Digital Content for BBC Worldwide, Alice Taylor became Commissioning Editor for Education at the UK’s Channel 4. She is also the significant other of copyfighter, journalist, sci-fi writer and Boing Boing editor, Cory Doctorow.

Taylor will publish an essay tomorrow, commissioned by Perspectives, a government-funded website created to engage with Scotland’s creative industries. If the taster published today is anything to go by, it should prove explosive.

The Digital Britain report along with proposals for disconnecting Internet users for copyright infringements is quite the hot topic at the moment, but Taylor isn’t having any of it, and is scathing of those pushing for such action.

“We must not let these dying behemoths take away someone’s internet access – and connection to the world – for some accusatory, unprovable ‘piracy’ claim, ever,” she will write, probably accompanied by the unified rapturous applause of the entire online community.

Taylor will also take on Feargal Sharkey’s UK Music, calling them “copyright maximalists” and criticizing them for asking consumers to “respect copyright.”

In a further display of downright common sense, Taylor notes that piracy is “simply demand where supply does not exist,” and that the use of “pointless protection mechanisms” simply “restricts a person’s ability, as a creator, to be discovered.”

It’s been said a million times before, but the entertainment industries simply must find a way to compete with free. Services like Spotify are a step in the right direction, but their over-protective structures have the turning circle of a supertanker and unfortunately for them, something needs to be done right now. That “something” is not new legislation either.

With pragmatic individuals like Alice Taylor speaking up for common sense and telling it how it is without all the usual corporate waffle, hopefully we can get there sooner rather than later.

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  • Anon

    About time someone put it to their face

  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    “the Internet and empowerment of the individual has put an end to all that.”

    Very true, while before it used to be a Goliath vs Baby… now that baby has a gun – my bets on baby!

  • Anonymous

    Tomorrow as in monday?

  • bsod

    good post enigmax

  • Anthony

    We can only hope the people in power will listen. And I hope that her arguments are well reasoned and thought out, so that the people that will no doubt make objections have little to go by.

  • Emule P2p Network

    Because of the actions of the MPAA & RIAA, I will never go back to buying music. I would advise some other way to get money to the content creator without giving it to the cartels.

  • Anon

    Its about time that someone with some common sense was given an audience with the powers that be.
    Go Alice Taylor! We’re all with you.

  • JOVIALAU

    GO ALICE!!!!GO ENIGMAX!!!!

  • Knotwurrid

    I said ages ago that it would get better,and slowly it is.A message for the film and music industry,please wake up,all you gotta do is make downloading films,music and TV legal for a fair price.You may be pleasantly surpised how many people would be willing to pay for it.It’s as simple as that

  • Knotwurrid

    Should have added.20p for a music track.£1.00 for a movie.I won’t pay more than this

  • fordrocks

    I think that service like the Zune pass will be the future. Sure it costs $15 per month but it’s unlimited and I get 10 songs per month drm free. It’s really tempting since it eleminates the need to download codecs and organize the massive amounts of music that i collect. But alas i am a poor college student and my budget can’t afford a new zune right now.

  • Gargamel

    kudos

  • KsbjA

    Finally, one of the big boys, umm, actually girls, is gonna say something in the interest of the consumers! It makes this line sound even more true than before:
    “Did you know in ten years labels won’t exist? Goodbye DVDs and compact discs!”
    (You might know it from http://freakbits.com/download-this-song-0913.)
    Even more and more artists have realized they actually don’t need labels and CD sales to get their popularity and money, and the labels have got nothing better to do than trying to outlaw the competition – internet sharing -, even if their customer (the artist) doesn’t want them to.

  • KsbjA

    ^^ Sorry, the period and the bracket don’t belong to the link in my previous post. Damn you autohyperlinker! The correct address is
    http://freakbits.com/download-this-song-0913
    .

  • Pook

    I really have little problem paying £6ish to go and see a movie in the cinema…but while I’m there I would like to have a drink and a snack as I would at home.
    So there is the option of either sneaking something in or buying something from their very poor selection of amazingly overpriced snacks.

    So I either break the rules and have an evening that cost £8 or bump the price up to £12.50. Well I’m not going to do the second option and as the first is already some kind of crime in their eyes…I may as well just steal the movie too…

  • Pook

    @11 “I think that service like the Zune pass will be the future.”

    Unless things have changed since I read about that last…Isn’t it a terribly evil system?

    I was under the impression that you only “owned” the music while you were still paying your fee, if you stopped doing so all of you music went away.

    If it’s still like that then it’s the worst possible idea…they could put it up to $120 a month or just turn the service off when ever they fancy…and all the music is gone.

  • Dan

    Flamming dumbo’s cut me off and i simply move to another broadband company music and movie industry want it all there way charge silly prices and movies and album and have people stop downloading

    Maybe if they wasnt so greedy on the prices people would stop and buy the dvd or album from the shops but no they want ridiculous prices

  • r3loaded

    The BBC have never been particularly vicious pro-copyright types, partly down to their public-service role. Their labs have even been working on distribution using BitTorrent.

  • ~~HA~~

    This was quite obviously coming. Channel 4 recently announced that they would let youtube host their shows for free. Not just stuff on 4od, but also archived shows.

    They would get more exposure than iplayer while having someone else pay the bandwidth costs.

  • Cordelia

    Yes, who are you fooling there, really?

    My guess is that the avg. normal “pirate” currently downloads 50 tracks or so a month, listen to about half of that (the rest waiting for later..) then transfer 10 tracks over to their MP3 player.

    Sometimes more, sometimes less.

    So at .20 per track, that would be £10 or EUR10 or $15.

    Would you really sign up for that? When it’s easy and free elsewhere?

    I can afford it, I just don’t agree with it, and don’t care about the effects. Don’t believe in capitalism as the driving force behind art, or paying for something that’s essentially nothing but binary code.

    I am MORE than happy to pay for live concerts though – just not to buy a t-shirt, keyring or similar.

    The genie is out of the bottle… The battle to put it back in is doomed to failure according to anybody who understands what they are talking about.

  • Reasoned Pirate

    even if a legal site was set up. it still wouldnt include the latest movies till they were available on dvd (months later) and tv shows from overseas

    so “piracy” will still be needed.

  • Pirate Dave

    My corner store always rented used movies at $1 a night (99 cents, actually) but I moved away and now the new store is (was) $4 per night and I stopped renting–they stopped renting, also. (What a surprise.)

  • clueless_suits

    ugghh, the suits who run big media are really clueless,

    TV shows should be viewable in any country on demand and released simultaneously, that way there would be no piracy…idiots…

  • Reasoned Pineapple

    “We can’t compete with free!”

    If you’re talking about competing with indies who are happy to give away their music for free, then that is probably true.

    If you’re talking about pirated music belonging to RIAA members, then you’re wrong and AllOfMp3 proved this. The article above states that piracy is “demand where supply does not exist.” That is a dead-on assessment. I’m still waiting for every movie soundtrack ever made to become available in a DRM-free lossless format at a reasonable price, say ten to twenty cents per track. Once that happens I will buy every single one of them, and that is only one genre. I’m sure I can’t be the only one waiting either. Not only will they make lots of money from bulk sales, it will give them incentive to create new original works which is what copyright was originally meant to do yet is currently failing at.

    The internet gave the masses a voice and with that voice came power. In response the industry has been acting like a two year old having a temper tantrum. How many parents give in to the demands of such a child? It is time for the governments of the world to stand up to these copyright maximalist industries and put them in their place. Trying to enforce outdated business models is like trying to stop the planet from spinning. Since we can’t go backwards, it is high time we progress forward.

  • Simon

    There’s a couple of things I’m curious about.

    other than getting a second job, how does a musician make a living if no one is paying for their music?

    what if they don’t have the money, the means or the support to tour and sell or produce merchandise?

    its unfortunate that in this day and age, being a musician who writes great songs isn’t enough. you have to be a businessman, a promoter, a marketing genius, a social butterfly who twitters and facebooks their fans all day every day. This doesn’t give the aspiring or even the established musician a lot of time to make good music and as a result, gives us a lot of bad or meh! music.

    I don’t know what the answer is but i feel like it might be too late too change peoples attitudes that for creativity to thrive an artist needs to eat, pay bills etc.

  • Knotwurrid

    @20
    So at .20 per track, that would be £10 or EUR10 or $15.

    Would you really sign up for that? When it’s easy and free elsewhere?

    YES

  • Simon

    one other point I’d like to make is that for almost every other job in the world, you get a salary and if you get fired, you get another job. for an artist there is no salary and no other job, it’s your life, it’s what defines you and I’d say, right now that most of them feel like they’re volunteering.

  • no workee no pay

    The entertainment industry is the ONLY industry which expects to make zillions from zero effort, and by that I mean record a album or make a movie in a studio then expect to sell it to a million people for a exorbitant price, err, that business model is changing fast, back to the Shakespearean days for you folks, (I wish that you had half as much talent), you get paid for live performances, oh wait, you want to go platinum whilst sitting at home snorting coke….

  • Anonymous

    @ 25 “Simon”

    The musician makes his or her living from the money of their fans. Fans go to gigs, buy merch and generally support/promote the artist. Where you get the idea that nobody would pay the artist, I don’t know.

    From the sales of music (yes, fans would be willing to pay), if they still can’t afford to tour or produce merch, perhaps they should consider getting a job.

    A marketing genius? Really?

    It’s a fairly simple process to set up a MySpace or Bebo or whatever. It hardly requires any kind of major intelligence. Besides, why shouldn’t a musician have to work hard to spread his music?

    You speak of the need to be a marketing genius denying the artist the time to produce good music. I’d like to point you to some examples of so-called ‘artists’ who are signed to huge record labels. They produce terrible music, and the record label handles all the ‘marketing genius’ stuff. So where is the correlation of time = music?

  • Anonymous

    @25 Oct 18, 2009 at 18:08 by Simon:
    It is simple.

    Go to slicethepie and make an account and play there.

  • Mason

    @25

    You are a fool, much in the same way that the MAFIAAs are.

    What you fail to realize about piracy is that a substantial number of pirates use it as a method of “try before you buy.” Sometimes the best part of a song is the chorus and the rest will suck. Those 30 second clips are usually in the chorus.

    The price for online media via legitimate sites is ridiculously high. $1 US for a song may be acceptable for physical media in which you get a incorruptible (albeit scratchable) copy featuring a lyrics book and HQ album art, but what do you get for the extra money spent for a file? It costs next to nothing to produce.

    Another thing you need to realize is that most of the artists are filthy fucking rich as it is, and with piracy, their pockets aren’t hurting very bad. At least they can still afford nice houses and ample amounts of cocaine. Even if 25% of an artists “patrons” are pirates, that still 75% they are netting with a profit. Maybe 25% after you factor out the money the MAFIAAs would take out anyway; You know, to fight piracy.

    Instead of fighting a dragon with an oak switch, maybe the industries should try to lure the dragon with a nice slab of meat. Stop fighting with legality; Most of us don’t care. Instead, update your draconian ways. Instead of bleeding your potential costumers dry, work with them. You know, the costumer is always right.

  • Reasoned Em0M3talK1z

    @25

    once cory taylor, the greatest rock-metal-avant-gard-emo-vocalist-rapper ever existed, shared his wisdom while on an interview.

    He said that the consequence of buying a plastic disk of Slipknot is not even a penny going to the artist, i mean the greatest rock-metal-avant-gard-emo-hardcore-band ever existed.

  • prodigydancer

    And this is the ONLY way. Adapt or die.

  • Rabbit80

    “…accompanied by the unified rapturous applause of the entire online community.” – except for neo.styles and Reasoned Mind that is!

  • Simon

    @29
    The last thing I think any musician should do is sign a “huge record” deal.

    @30
    in theory that looks like a great site.

    @31
    I say the same thing as i said to @29

  • Bobe-On

    I’m familiar with Cory Doctorow’s writings and lectures– he’s pretty out there :) — so this should be interesting.

  • Afficianado

    We must not let these dying behemoths take away someone’s internet access – and connection to the world – for some accusatory, unprovable ‘piracy’ claim, ever,

    Top bird, and double top for using behemoths.

  • Afficianado

    Leviathans would have got the bullseye.

  • Dutchie

    News is also for free, which everybody can see and download from internet. The news industry also had to turn to free internet, and knowing that less and less people read the newspaper. It is a fact that internet provide the information and less people depend on paper!

  • DiarRIAA

    I truly applaud her for speaking common sense.

    However, the executives, lawyers, “content protection” providers, etc; are all paid by the company to portray a certain way of thinking, and are also paid to speak a certain way. While they are employed by a company $100k+/$1M+ a year, does anyone truly believe that they are ever going to speak out against their bosses that tell them how to think and what to say? If they are brainwashed into believing their bosses, does anyone really believe their minds can be changed.

    The ones that can never change are the ones at the very top that has all the control, money and power. They may already have more than enough wealth than they know what to do with. They are greedy and simply more wealth and will attack anyone that they perceive as a threat, real or not, using all the power and influence in their power arsenel.

    This war will go on for as long as they old-school antiquated fossils are sitting in their thrones of power finally die off and are replaced by more modern thinkers that are in touch with the people, technology and times. Unfortunately I don’t see this happening for 60 or so years. By then the icredible leaps and bounds that will occur during that time with encryption, private data tunnels, and ultra-wide broadband global wireless…copyright laws will become completely useless because all activity will become entirely compressed, invisible, trackless and encrypted globally.

    We’re already seeing everything moving in that direction. Thanks to open technologies, creative commons/open source and programmers not employed by the large media companies; technology is heading in the right direction. The media companies know this and are trying to limit technological advances and try to pass off bills publically as though they are designed to protect children from predators and the public from t*rrorists. The law makers and the public fall for this tactic everytime, and the media companies know this.

    Anyways, back to my file trading. :)

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  • PirLog.com

    Great News.

    http://Pirlog.com

  • shallow rave

    Alice Taylor, thank you. You clearly get it, and are unafraid to make that plain.

  • mothafrakker

    ha! another hippie chick has got her panties in a twist and this somehow warrants wasting perfectly good article space on this junk? how about 3 more crappy articles and you stop posting altogether?

  • bullsh1t

    @ 20 same way i see it even if they sell a moive 0.01 cents i still wouldnt buy it bcs im a true pirate!

  • ploppy

    This won’t be reported in the mainstream media.

  • Anonymous

    “We must not let these dying behemoths take away someone’s internet access – and connection to the world – for some accusatory, unprovable ‘piracy’ claim, ever,”

    YES! Bravo!

    “simply demand where supply does not exist,” and that the use of “pointless protection mechanisms” simply “restricts a person’s ability, as a creator, to be discovered.”

    I’ve said that b4. There are many artists I would not know if I had not downloaded their songs through P2P. I do buy stuff but there are like 1000+ tracks I’d buy right away if they were available online and for reasonable prices ($0.20 to $0.40 is what I’d call reasonable).

    @20
    “So at .20 per track, that would be £10 or EUR10 or $15.
    Would you really sign up for that? When it’s easy and free elsewhere?”

    Yes, I am currently waiting for a solution like that. I’d have started such service myself, however I don’t have the money to do so and the industry would charge a bloody lot so I wouldn’t be able to survive charging that low monthly for free access of the content.

  • Ninja

    forgot to write my nick for the 45th post…

    ;D

  • Whatever

    @27 Simon….
    How about we all become artists then claim its our live and because of that we are all unable to pick up bricks, do administration, sit in the office or using a computer. Who will support all 6,7 billion artists. Another angle to look at it is from a small independant business owners, if they go out of business they will sometimes have debts for taking risks but artists get free benefits the rest of their lives (well not much as most of it stays at some organizations but they are entitled to it by “law” usually).

    And if people gets fired they DONT RECEIVE another job. They have to apply for it and be lucky enough to do the right things and get selected in up to about 3 interviews. You actually have to work to get a job.

    Exception: CEO do GET another job, its more like a transfer within the old boys network.

  • .neo.styles|nvDX

    That’s what pirates want us to believe. That they’ve changed the system forever in their favor… That after people have been exchanging things in fair trade for thousands of years and paying for things with currency for hundreds, that people will never go back to the way things were before.. The funny part is that they fail to realize that that illegal downloading is only a dozen or so years old.. It’s a child compared to legal payment.

    All the masterminds (armchair activists) behind this illegitimate movement will look back from prison and wonder why they thought they could get the whole world to change. They will regret all their masquerading and futile, political posturing.

    What does this have to do with consuming media? Isn’t there only one thing you do with a movie or a song? What else can you do with a movie besides watch it? Payment has nothing to do with consumption. It’s acquisition. You make it sound like they are trying to impose something unjust upon the masses. Paying for things just helps people profit from their work. How is that wrong?

  • HappyPirate

    Thank you, Alice Taylor!

  • gorehound

    The RIAA and their STOOGE CORPORATE Lables can go to hell.They will never see a dime of my money ever so frak you.And by the way did you hear about the neat little performance bill so the greedy arses can now take more money out of radio instead of being glad to have free advertising.My band considers it an honor to be played on the radio and we will never ask a dime for that priviledge in the USA.

    And as far as the MPAA goes I have boycotted Hollywood and will buy any new movie DVD as I buy those used which helps my local economy and gives hollywood nothing back..hahahahaha

  • Sendaii

    @2: I disagree. The baby has a tank complete with turret and machine guns.

    This is a rare victory for common sense. If only the entertainment industry would think this way and develop a new model. They have probably spent more money on chasing us than they would have on creating an all you can eat download service.

  • Gerd Leonhard

    Very interesting. I published this on my blog last weel: “Open letter to Lord Mandelson: here is how to solve the Internet Music Problem – Legalize It” – very closely related to this issue http://bit.ly/w8Fu (link to MediaFuturist.com)

  • .neo.styles|nvDX

    Also, the more I read comments, there more I realize what the most crippling misconception is. It’s not about power or the evil RIAA controlling your life. It’s simply about paying for what you own. About contributing to that which you enjoy. Is this really that much to ask? If the cops tell you that you can’t drive drunk, are they also “trying to control your life”?

    If something is digital how does that make it okay to refuse payment versus a physical object like a magazine?

  • Tigger

    Hail Mary!

    erm, i mean Hail Alice!

    So rare to see someone in the entertainment industry who actually seems to be able to see beyond their own wallet =)

  • Anon

    Even though many of us download films, and don’t buy blu-rays /dvds.
    I still go to the cinema and it costs £6.70 – $10! and i’m a student!

    The cinema business is still big, no one likes telesyncs or cams. They look like crap!
    The dark knight grossed $67M in the first day.
    The movie industry isn’t dying, like you would be lead to believe.

  • Anonymous

    “Noting that people will never go back to paying for music”

    This is not true. People will pay for music again but not before all these corporate parasites are all dead.

  • Anonymous

    The funny thing is that these dinosaurs were not able to replace the obsolete CD yet.

    MP3 does not replace CD.

    So where is my high resolution digital music device that I can plug into my high end stereo and will beat the crap out of not only my CD player but also my very expensive turntable?

    The technology is there since at least ten years what we don’t have anything?

  • M-RES

    @25

    Yes Simon, many of us ARE musicians and DO have other jobs to pay the bills, because being an artist has never been about the money, it’s purely about the art. I’m a musician because I love writing, recording and playing music, and I get even more enjoyment out of it if other people enjoy it too whether they be at a live show or listening to one of my free tracks on a million and one social and music networking sites, podcasts, independent radio and p2p sharing.

    Of course I’d love to be able to write and play music all day every day and not have to work another job, but like most musicians, I’m a realist too. Life in the real world means working to pay those bills however you must (or living on piffling benefits), and making anything extra you can from the music.

    I won’t buy from major labels (or their sudo-indie derivatives) anymore, but I WILL buy direct from the artist, because I know they’re getting 100 % of the cash (minus their expenses). That’s the problem with the current status quo you see, the labels get nearly all of the cash for none of the creative input and the musician just gets left footing the bill. I believe that most ‘pirates’ out there would not feel so aggrieved at paying a fair price for an album if they knew they were paying the artist direct and the labels weren’t involved.

    Therefore, the most sensible way forward that I can see is for artists to sell their own music, and the more forward thinking of us are already doing this. I recently bought some music from an indie artist who had a ‘pay-what-you-think-it’s-worth, but-we-think-it’s-worth-about-3-to-5-quid’ pricing scheme, with the permission given to then copy and share the album amongst friends and others (free marketing/distribution, because recommendations mean more than cold-selling, so will probably result in greater future sales).

    On top of this, artists will continue to actually work for their money and play as many live shows as it takes to scrape any kind of a pittance together, and find ways to sell merch effectively. Spreadshirt, Cafe Press and their ilk allow an artist to set up a shop with zero overhead, and you only pay a commission on anything you manage to sell, so you don’t need any money up front to produce TShirts.

    Neither do you need to be a marketing guru. You just have to make sure you have exposure everywhere possible. Sure it’s time-consuming and tedious, but once you’ve set up profiles and a dozen or so major sites, you don’t need to spend so much time maintaining them, and use the 3 or 4 biggies to let people know of your gigging schedule.

    In summary, most musicians DO think of themselves as artists. And how many artists do you know aren’t ‘struggling’? How many filthy stinking rich sculptors, painters or any discipline of the arts do you know? They all have to work and most of them have to work other jobs to support their art, or starve. Them’s the breaks, and as a muso you CHOOSE whether to do it or not ;)

  • Bunny

    Wait for the music and movie industries spindoctors to spin up a bigger story for tomorrows UK newspapers.

    It is standard practice to flood an opposing point of view off the front page with a more scandalous story. Organizations and political parties often sit on big stories for months just in case they need to steal the limelight in situations like this.

  • tommie

    Disconnecting specific users that file share would not do anything. There is always a way to get on the internet and pirate material, it will never be stopped.

  • Positron

    Even though I’m not a UK citizen, I’d still like to say:

    Alice Taylor for Prime Minister!

  • Anonymous

    I like this guy. I REALLY like this guy. I’d even go as far as to say that if I see him in public, I would gladly shake his hand and tell him that he’s a pretty cool guy.

  • Xcel

    #57 has a good point…
    I dont know if they have any sort of idea how they think they can accomplish it, I personally know that they would not have a prayer in hell keeping me off the internet, really the only way would be to lock me up with absolutely zero access to any sort of tech… it’s kinda like BREIN trying to take TPB down..just wont happen, LoL

  • Xcel

    For those of you that have found a new heroin, LoL.. Heres her very own “Wiki”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Taylor

    Interesting Lady…

  • Jesse beando

    Wow thats downright scary dude, I mean just think about it!

    RT

  • Dummy More

    Wow, that actually makes sense dude

  • Dummy More

    Thats da bomb dude

  • Sony Jacobs

    HAve these folks completely and totally LOST their freeakin minds??

    Jess
    http://www.anonymous.ua.tc

  • fight_the_tyranny

    Mandelson cares nothing for public opinion or the electorate, for he is thice convicted knave whom the public has not elected, nor would they given the chance. Instead he occupies the lords as brownite cronie, entirely unaccountable to the british people. So it comes as no surprise when he meets with influential media moguals and bilderberg members such as the rothchilds. No doubt acting on their behalf to line their mutual pockets.

    Politics in Britain are as predictable as they are corrupt.

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  • Arsshaw

    @25 well Simon here in the States a young boy or girl is born who is camera friendly in the looks department and then the parents sign their children over to the Disney Channel. Then the Disney Channel takes kids pumps them full of whoremornes creates a Absolutley Brain Dead tv show around them. Forces them to sing or Pretend to sing; then plays Endless commercials about said show and creates a few more tie in shows/Disney Dead movie of the week/month/year. Rolls the actor/actress now singer out on stage on Concert Tour untill child is an ugly adult or gets preggers, strung out on drugs; drops/dumps/aborts the star. Then my fellow Retarded 16-20′s something Americans pick up the strung out douche stain and propel them to their 2nd wind of Brain Dead fame. Guess who picks them up @ this point? MTV! Cycle starts anew. This tiime with shows about whores and reality bullshit throw in a couple award shows with no music playing and repeat vicously every few years until th die or end up dead orforgotten only to be played on /E! Lastly Abc/NBC/CBS picks up the wash outs and pits the. Against one another on network reality shows. Did I miss anything?
    Fuck Em.

  • Simon

    @31

    you are completely out of touch with reality if you think “most of the artists are filthy fucking rich”. That’s a gross and misinformed generalization that helps you justify all your downloading.

    Your opinion is so narrow minded that i can’t even take you seriously.

    @59

    thank you for the wonderful and eloquent answers.

  • Simon

    @48

    I think you misinterpreted my use of the word “get”. I understand that we don’t receive jobs after losing them. that would be ridiculous.

    the only point i was making was that being a great musician or a great painter etc is a gift. mozart was a gifted composer, picasso was gifted artist. they are unique. their talent allowed them to create masterpieces that no one else could BUT they also couldn’t do anything else because that is what defined them and gave their lives meaning. It was their passion.

  • M-RES

    @71 Simon

    Once again you labour under the assumption that any musical artist deserves to work purely as a musician, because they’re good at it. If they have no other skills then that’s purely their own fault and nobody else’s, and they need to get in the queue down at the job centre like everybody else. The world does not owe anybody a living wage for following their passion.

    Those of us living in reality know you CAN’T be purely a musician – well, actually you can, but you have to be very lucky to be so, even WITH all the old business models and label/distribution infrastructure. I know a LOT of incredibly talented musicians who will never have the chance to work as a musician full time and it’s a shame, because it’s their passion, but they don’t play the music the labels want to sell (even though it’s the music many people like to listen to) so it’s just the way it has to be for now.

    If we got rid of the behemoth labels it wouldn’t make the slightest bit of difference to 99.99% of the musicians out there, but it might hurt that .01% who get paid far too much for the amount of work they do, and that’s a very good thing – it’ll make them have to work and be creative again and also build a level playing field for all the creative musos out there, but the labels don’t like it because they’re suddenly irrelevant.

    Have a look at the number of ‘great’ artists who actually had any kind of comfortable living wage in their lifetime. Not many of them. Most of them, like the great painters, were WORKING artists who laboured day-in, day-out to create works that they could sell to people just to pay the rent and eat. If they were lucky they’d find a rich patron who liked their work and paid them a retainer to create works. Even looking at the modern ‘art’ scene – how many artists do you know who work full time just creating their ‘art’? How many can you name versus how many are out there?

  • Kickass_Sid

    A dying behemoth is still a behemoth, so there will take more than one file-sharing bomb.

  • Jasper100

    “That “something” is not new legislation either.”

    it’s not about legalisation but making things ILLEGAL why did they made file-sharing illegal?

    you wouldn’t make google illegal if microsoft asks the law makers to do so? wouldn’t you?

    that doesn’t make any damn sense!
    but this is the same as the second war if you lived in Germany you heard all people say that Jews are bad, because so many people sad that you actually was gonna think those people are bad!

    share-
    it’s faire…

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  • anon2

    so what time is this supposed to happen and where will it be reported?

  • lune

    @18
    BBC is one of the worst corporation when it come to right grabbing.
    I have worked for different organisation from the music, film and TV industry. All at some point ripped me off. Either by, not paying a fee as I was in the front of the camera, and stealing my materials. If one complain, one just find himself in a front of an army of lawyers. Defending yourself against corporation is an expensive and difficult business.

  • Simon

    @73

    i have to respectfully disagree. neither of us are wrong, its just that our experiences are different and we know different people.

  • Draig

    Spotify is the surely the new business model for music. Every student I know in University uses Spotify, and more and more of those are moving from free to premium just because over time they have gotten sick of the ads. Now Spotify has found a way to make their premuium model feel like it’s worth the money with features like offline music and mobile apps, I think we will begin to see more and more people making the switch – I did, and I never thought in a million years I’d accept a subscription service for music.

    All I’m waiting for is for Spotify to have the ability to play local media and it will be, in my eyes, perfect.

    Good on you Ms. Taylor, we need people like you in the industry to speak out against this madness – it is appreciated.

  • anon2
  • inspiration

    ………

    as an artist also, i also have an understanding of the word passion, when you work for something that your passionate about it should be done not just for your own good you want others to see it because you want to share your ideas with the world and your very reward is when others agree on it or if others see the soul in it thats what passion is for me, and when you work for something it shouldnt be done for your own good only, you should do it for humanity everyone has a passion for whatever it is that they like to accomplish or do, and doing it just for your self is pointless and selfish you should do the things that your passionate about for humanity and not just for your own benefit for it will be pointless, it shouldnt actually have a price for why do you do it in the first place, if your purpose is to earn big, then all you think about is yourself and its pointless everyone who does things with passion do it with a purpose, and they dont do it just for themselves because its pointless and i know im being redundant now, my native language isn’t English and i am having a hard time expressing myself,

    …..because what you do and share with humanity, you also do for your self, and the very reward is when humanity sees its soul. because it is its purpose.

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  • Duh

    “…piracy is ‘simply demand where supply does not exist,’…”

    More precisely, it’s:
    ‘where supplies are not affordable’
    and/or
    ‘where supplies are not available when they are needed’

    The supplies DO exist.

  • Anonymous

    Honestly, I ain’t paying for jack shit. I steal my internet from pirated wifi, I steal my music on Frostwire & steal my movies off bittorrent. I watch my TV shows on Hulu, because I ain’t payin’ for cable either…

    You better get your monies from ads, and I’ll most likely be blocking them with adblock, hosts file, or even a CSS stylish script if it still pops up & annoys me too much.

    Find new ways to market your products Record Industry & Hollywood. Seriously though, most of the crap you put out is pure ass anyhow. Time 2 look for a new meal ticket I guess… Maybe then Indie artists & filmmakers will get their time to shine…

    BTW I didn’t really learn about downloading all my media until the RIAA/MPAA got so much media attention from suing fans, so THANKS GUIZE!

  • inspiration

    life isn’t all about money, actually the best things in life are free, what’s important in life is to find your happiness as long as its not at anybody’s expense

    and as what i said earlier..

    (part of it… just read the rest on my earlier post.)

    …..because what you do and share with humanity, you also do for your self, and the very reward is when humanity sees its soul. because it is its purpose.

  • anon2

    so what was the outcome of her dropping this ‘File-Sharing Bomb’ then? totally ignored, as usual, i suppose.

  • xxploit

    media is probably scared shitless to publish it (assuming that it exists)

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  • PIR@TOR

    PIRACY WILL NEVER STOP :D FILESHARING SHALL PREVAIL !!!

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