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U.S. Accuses Megaupload User of Storing Pirated Music

By seizing the servers of Megaupload, the U.S. Government also confiscated the personal belongings of many innocent users. One entrepreneur has asked the court to return his data but this request is meeting resistance from the authorities. The U.S. Government points out that the Megaupload user in question may not technically be the owner of his uploaded files. In addition they accuse him of hosting pirated copies of popular music.

cesetteEver since the raids in January, the fate of Megaupload users’ personal files has remained uncertain.

After initial negotiations over a voluntary return of user data failed, professional sports reporter and Megaupload user Kyle Goodwin lost patience and decided to take action.

Earlier this month the court granted Goodwin a hearing and yesterday the various parties submitted their opinions on what form the hearing should take.

Mr. Goodwin’s attorneys and those of Megaupload suggested an extensive hearing. Among other things they want Government employees, including FBI agents, to be questioned under oath about several aspects of the data seizures.

The U.S authorities on the other hand want to limit the hearing to the issue of whether Mr. Goodwin actually owns the data he wants returned. This question should be answered first, the Government states, as this would “avoid a fishing expedition into a pending criminal prosecution.”

United States Attorney Neil MacBride explained to the court that Mr. Goodwin might not be the legal owner of the data he seeks to retrieve. On the one hand the agreement between Megaupload and its users could limit ownership claims, but even if Goodwin can legally own the data, it may be infringing.

“Based on the government’s review of Mr. Goodwin’s website, ohiosportsnet.tv, the list of files uploaded by a Megaupload user using the account name ‘ohiosportsnet’ and the MD5 hash values of those files, it is not clear that Mr. Goodwin or his company owns the rights to all the data that he uploaded to Megaupload,” MacBride writes.

Goodwin publishes videos of sporting events but there are now claims that he used copyrighted music in these clips, possibly without acquiring the rights.

“Numerous videos produced by Mr. Goodwin have as their soundtracks recordings of popular copyrighted music. Many videos on his website begin with a statement describing the copyrighted music and including a disclaimer such as ‘we don’t own the rights’.”

Perhaps even worse, the DoJ also found a lot of music tracks that appear to come from illegal sources. That is, the hashes of these tracks match those of pirated copies.

“In addition, the ‘ohiosportsnet’ account at Megaupload had uploaded numerous music files, including music files with MD5 values that matched the hash values of pirated versions of popular music,” MacBride notes.

With this move the U.S. Government appears to be accusing Mr. Goodwin of storing pirated music files on Megaupload in the hope of preventing the return of user data to him. Since the initial negotiations the U.S. has also objected to the return of data to other Megaupload users.

Whatever the true reason, the Government’s accusations are not helping the sports reporter’s case.

According to Goodwin’s attorney Corynne McSherry, the brief is yet another diversion tactic. She is also surprised to see how easy it was for the Government to access the files of her client.

“[The Government] is doing its level best to make the issue about Mr. Goodwin, rather than its own failure to take any steps, much less the reasonable steps required by law, to protect the property rights of third parties. And it also appears to want to put a virtually insurmountable burden on Mr. Goodwin, and presumably anyone else who wants their property returned,” McSherry tells TorrentFreak.

“Finally, if the government is so well positioned to search through Mr. Goodwin’s files — and it is not at all clear that that search was authorized — presumably it could also find a way to return them,” she adds.

Megaupload’s lawyers are also calling for a swift data return. They believe that the DoJ’s reluctance stems from the fear that Kim Dotcom and the other defendants could use information gained via a detailed user data hearing to help defend the existing criminal case against the company.

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  • FD

    Us Gov will do all to keep data hidden and mega upload down

    • Norris

      USA FUCK YOU ! THANKS SANDY thats it is a proof nobody it is invincible nobody is master !

      Entire world acusses fat dumb USA for messed earth with shit polution chemicals , junk food ,stupidity, for kill inocent people , for manipulation , lies, hipocricy

      HOPE soon something will destroy USA and their lie criminal system ,seems theirs god flushed toilet = Sandy ,..LOL “in god we trust ” and now your god strike your ass …lol thats happen becouse in fact USA belive in – “in money we trust” NOT in god , but they say “god” to manipulate control and foolish people to be submissive slaves , obedient and belive in nothing

      USA and entire “civilizated countries” must be destroyed , all of them based on dirty system of manipulation ,lies , control and slavery , power of money, corruption , bribery , obedience, crime , wasting resoursces etc etc

      For all of these things that fat greedy parasite must be destroyed !

      • Guest

        One thing the US can never win the war against is hurracaines. The cost of Katrina was a few billion and now they will have to pay the cost of Sandy.

        • fish sauce

          Lets hope it makes a lot of costly damage

          Religious types would say god is punishing them. More like nature is doing it. I’d say so, being stupid enough to build a cities in a hurricane ridden land that is not even theirs to begin with (stolen from the Indians)

        • Guest

          I call this a witch-hunt!

        • When

          @fish sauce

          I think you’ll find that the North American territories were actually stolen from the North Americans (the original North Americans that is). It was the British who stole land from the Indians – India in fact! XD

        • 33_33

          I don’t think anybody will try to destroy U.S.
          It will “just” destroy itself.

      • youidiot

        You’re a fucking idiot. That is all.

        • Lionsionel

          maybe im idiot – you can say what you want but im not slave manipulated riot hipocrite like you

        • Nope

          No Norris, you’re an uneducated fuckwit.

      • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

        are you taking your meds?

        • Norris

          Are you taking your consciousness ? do you have that ? ask yourself what you doing every day , ask yourself what USA parasite system doing everyday ? Can you realize what happen in this fuckin shit wolrd ?

      • Tyrob56

        This coming from someone using the word “civilizated”. Ha ha ha quit your whining.

        • Norris

          one thing – im not “civilizated ” in their sense ok ! im not hipocrite like they and like many many manipulated slaves , they pretend to be civilizated – but they kill people they using money to get more guns to prosecute people to manipulate and control , they are civilizated but they take amerindians indian lands and kill them all , put them into reservations like animals , they destroy nature , they destroy billion people lie and foolish them every day but they are civilizated – dont you think thats absolute hipocricy ? ask yourself

        • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

          LOL Norris did it again and didn’t even realize it.

        • Norris

          @krozareq dude othes and you dont see the real problems, they see just little writing mistakes like instead word “civilizated countries ” must be “civilized countries ” oohh yahh thats the big problem NOT these parasites which enslave and kill people which mess this earth !
          Ohh yes good point indeed thats the serious problem – a writing or grammar mistake , hype
          That it is a serious problem if you are blind ,manipulated or foolished to see just that not real problems !

          Wake up and look around in which absurd world you live and you will realize all it is a shit , a mess ruled by greedy stupid fat parasites !

      • respect

        Shame the US govt beat natural selection… maybe Sandy will get them yet.

        • AndIMustScream

          Actually, Sandy was man-made. Why did it make the sudden 90-degree turn towards New Jersey right at the last minute? Why did it the wind speeds suddenly increase?

          Look up Sea-Based X-Band Radar for your answer. The floating radar station has a top speed of 9 knots. Sandy, before it hit land, had a nautical speed of 9 knots. The mobile radar station was ALSO in the Gulf conducting tests following the days of Katrina. Coincidence?

          Ah, also look up the X-37 for another indicator that Sandy was man-made.

          I remember some time ago a reporter said Obama was looking to create a false flag to induce martial law and delay the election. Maybe this was his false flag?

          Ah, found it.

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/kelly-keisling-tennessee-obama-rumor_n_1725053.html

        • Guest

          Sea-Based X-Band Radar?

          More likely to be HARP
          http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message531637/pg1

      • IHaveNoBalls

        You’re not an idiot, you’re mostly right about what you said, but you’re focusing on all the bad things of the world in one, things arn’t black and white like that, anyways my advise is don’t let this shit get to you because it doesn’t really matter :D safe man

      • Shogunreaper

        You seem like your insinuating that other countries aren’t as corrupt as the usa.

        When protecting their interests countries always look out for #1, the U.S just happens to have more interests than most.

        • When

          The US has no more interests than any other nation, they just have bigger debts owing to a military spend only necessary if you’re a paranoid nation hell-bent on holding the world to ransom by planting your military everywhere and threatening action if trading laws aren’t rewritten in your favour.

      • Anonymous

        I’m an American, and I agree wholeheartedly.

      • Bincan

        Is it HAARP technology at play to simulate economy with funny money USD or is it really mother earth’s fury?

        • Norris

          I dont know , maybe , but i hope and im shure in one day something of they will destroy itselfs , just remember Roman Empire and new or old others , all collapse , it is a pattern of distruction – greed ,stupidity, ignorancy, hipocrisy, lies , corruption , all of these digging day by day and they cant avoid that

      • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

        You see this type of ranting in a psychiatric ward. Humans may be parasites, but you’re one too.

      • sandyaj

        Please dont take the actions of several a$$holes and use them to define our entire country. I assure you most Americans, at least those who know of this controversy, are just as equally disgusted by the evil tactic used by the DoJ and Congress not only to shut down Megaupload, but to also try to hinder the internet in any way. Hopefully this upcoming election our voices can be heard where we can choose new leaders and flush the rotten ones by the wayside. However, sad to say a large portion of our society are indeed quite , how to say this nicely…not as well educated, and tend to use racial hatred to push forth candidates based on the color of their skin vs their actual intelligence and agenda.

        I’m sure a lot here may be thinking get Obama out of office due to what Biden did, and his mistake on Acta, but…..the alternative is a candidate that would sell out all individuals in a second, meaning if the Maafia said go kill, he would say gladly “of course with pleasure”. I’d rather have a president who made mistakes that could be changed, than have one who is powered by how much money is coming his way.

        • Anonymous

          “Hopefully this upcoming election our voices can be heard where we can choose new leaders and flush the rotten ones by the wayside.”

          What a nice delusion. I like to pretend too sometimes.
          Our voices are ignored, only corporate money is listened to. Elections are a joke to make the sheep believe they have any influence over anything. Both candidates are essentially the same. Two sides of the same evil coin.

      • Not Anon

        This site really needs a dislike button.

      • Elbastardo1b

        No… Your an idiot

        • Norris

          exactly , im an idiot , you can say what you want ,ok but an idiot like me and others for rest of the world see the truth ! USA isnt the master of this wolrd , inst owner even this union bulit since his inception on lies crime violence (see what happen with native “indians” amerindians that was begining and nobody want to remember that genocide ) first of all whos ancestors of actual US americans – uk prisoniers ,criminals , deported people , poor people emigrants and all problem people from UK ,and after from rest of the world , a dirty mix without laws , who doing what they want there – they have crime in genes , thats why love guns, wars , thats like to kill to invade others , thats why they bring on USA black people from Africa and enslave them etc etc

          They will continue to doing what they want if others will accept and dont say nothing , i can say UK is the most responsable for this situation – becouse they are the roots of this , they conquer other countries , lands and transforms into colony , free people into slaves , they invade stole and kill , UK it was the pattern for USA – USA develop this pattern and aply at global scale , now they consider are the owners of this world and others are “slaves” , their colony where they can do what they want when they want ! Thats why they are arrogant , beyound any laws , thats why they pretend others to respect what they say !

      • S Croinex

        I almost agree with you completely, but please keep in mind that it is only a very, very small percentage of Americans who are the real fat greedy parasites. And the rest of are uneven spit of conscious and sheeple, weighing pretty heavy on the sheeple side, but it’s changing, people are waking up and realizing that our country was built on murder and lies, and that our governing body has become so corrupt that it almost seems unstoppable. We need to wake up, exert that power that we have and stop being the slave-trading oppressors of the World.

      • Nope

        SO thousands of innocent people lose their homes and shit because of natural storms and this is ok because our government are a bunch of assholes? Choke on a bag of dicks motherfucker.

        • Norris

          No they are quilty and deserve becouse they are stupid ignorant greed , becouse they are arrogant ,maybe they dont even think about risks , they choose to live and build homes near by coast , they makes homes on land where in past was normal flooded land , also im shure they belive and accept politicians lies and ignore risks so now come payday for this stupidity !

          Remember the same disasters happen in past for many many times Cernobil , Fukushima – but peoples dont learn , dont want to remember , and history reapeat over and over – becouse people are not “inocent ” they are quilty – a mix of stupidity , lies, ignoracy , greed – and the result was the same – death ,
          All natural disaters have a cause – polution , stupidity (nobody can faith and win in battle with nature – nature always win becouse nature create us) in these days poeple dont live in according with nature , people want to be the master that illusion of power will destroy this world , some people think they can do what they want – can cut all forests to sale and make more money , can make polution to make more money , can build homes and towns everywhere to sale and make more money , can kill species of animals , plants for money , can destroy mountains to take more and more resources (minerals, metals, rocks etc ) to sale and make more money , can wasting resources to make commercial useless products to sale and make more money ,can use chemicals and takes wild lands to grow more crops to slae and make more money etc – world is flooded with messy human shit stupidity with more and more people (too much) without education, without elements of basic life (food, water, homes) always everithing is about fuckin money – not about rational thinking , not about progress , peoples are foolished manipulated used like slaves to make profit for few old fat illiterate greedy bastards which doesnt care about humans ,about culture , education, progress, nature – they look at all of these just when they desperately need to replace some of they educated slaves to continue to produce for they more money

      • Guest

        You’re a piece of shit for making fun of people who were affected by Hurricane Sandy. I don’t care what you think about the government and how this business with Megaupload is handled, but don’t you start insulting the loss of life, because it could happen in your country just as easy, and you won’t be laughing then.

        • Norris

          im a piece of shit but i want to kill all of you greedy bitches – you deserve death ! you destroy the hole world and now you all say are inocent ? fuck you

          btw , in my country a disaster like Sandy or simillar cant happen becouse people arent so stupid and greedy like USA people , people in my country dont build towns , homes on coast of ocean or rivers , dont build homes without evaluate risks (earthquakes, storms, floods, landing slides etc ) thats why will never happen – becouse people here ar not STUPID AND GREED ( even i not love any country of this wolrd becouse almoust have the same system of lie ,of manipulation ) , thats i can say “inocent people ” affected by Sandy deserves death , destructions etc – they can prevent that but becouse of stupidity , arogancy,manipulation and greed all of them ignore risks and think that could not happen becouse they are the best , they are americans or live in USA , well nature “maybe your god ” shows they think very wrong !

          Becouse of their stupidity and greed “innocent people” deserve lose their homes and life , is liek a kind of natural selection – only smarter survive not arogant ignorant greedy stupid people , also they choose or accept to build homes on coasts , they vote wrong and belive lies of politicians , they are not inocent they are quilty !
          Think about why happen more and more disaters ? Becouse people stupidity becouse polution etc – is simple when people destroy nature and acting irrational nature react and destroy , kill people , so how someone can say these people are inocent when they choose wrong , when they make lot polution and sustain this polution when buy shit useless toxic products just becouse is trendy etc etc . Ask yourself people, ask yourself if you have brain !

    • Mat_t

      actually they (gov) just screwed the pooch. This statement is a straight up acknowledgement of 4th amendment violations. If the judge wakes up to how this can end his career to not acknowledge, hopefully this will end very favorably for the user at a minimum.

      • Otioispoupo

        The courts violate the laws all the time, evidence and justice be damned. Look at the SCOTUS decisions in Citizens United, or look at Kelso v. New London.

        When it’s about power and money, the court system all the way up to the Supreme Court is as corrupt as any other US governmental institution.

    • Thom

      “Megaupload’s lawyers are also calling for a swift data return. They believe that the DoJ’s reluctance stems from the fear that Kim Dotcom and the other defendants could use information gained via a detailed user data hearing to help defend the existing criminal case against the company.”

      This is an Obstruction Of Justice, and Kim DotCom should use this in his defense.

  • Guest

    Ooops!

  • Bakapinkuu

    I really, really hope the judge burns them for going through his data without probable cause and/or a search warrant. No holding my breath, though.

    • Violated0

      We can only wonder how the US Government can know what Kyle Goodwin holds in his account on MegaUpload when no one else can access that data including Mr Goodwin.

      All the US Government is trying to do here is to confuse people. This is a CRIMINAL case against Mega but any copyright infringement that is done by a user is a CIVIL matter and so not part of the criminal case. Mr. Goodwin can get his property back and then it is up to any rights owners of the music to decide if any civil steps are taken.

      It is almost funny how the US Government keeps on trying to add civil matters into criminal law. Maybe they think if they twist and warp together the two long enough that they may get something to stick. So far though that plan has just not worked out for them and seems more the sign of a losing position.

      • Guest

        I can’t wait for the appeal court in NZ to give its verdict response in answer to the previous judges/courts ruling that the Prosecution must give fuller disclosure of evidence regarding the Megaupload case for the extradition hearing that the prosecution took to appeal the decision that they have to give fuller disclosure of evidence. If the appeal court upholds the previous judges/courts decision that fuller disclosure of evidence against Megaupload MUST be provided for the extradition hearing I can’t wait to see if the prosecution complies with the order or if they refuse and come out with a load of bull crap as to why they will not comply. I am sure that if the prosecution complies that they will only disclose the evidence that will put Megaupload in a bad light and anything that will show that they acted illegally against Megaupload or shows Megaupload to have acted in a legal manner will not be handed over.

  • laura

    I don’t get why the US gov spends so much time on this shit when there are people shooting each other in the streets. Why couldn’t they orchestrate an equally illegal attack on drug cartels like they did on mega? Oh right, the MPAA wouldn’t pay them to do that.

    • Who

      its because the US government don’t give a flying FUCK!! about people.

      • Norris

        yeap they care just about their system , is about how to make more money how to have more control how to foolish and enslave more people , they doesnt care about people becouse for they people are just tools , they can die they can be replaced with new fresh manipulated slaves ! thats is all about this damned world

    • IMForeman

      They did, it was called fast and furious,

    • Guest

      Because the drug cartels are well armed. Most file hosting companies aren’t. People like the John Keystone Cops love getting to play with their toys, but they like it even better when the targets probably won’t shoot back.

  • Guest

    Of course the US authorities want to limit the hearing to the issue of whether Mr Goodwins owns the copyright or not as anything more will clearly undemind their case against Megauload if any case at that.

  • Anonymous

    ‘Megaupload’s lawyers believe that the DoJ’s reluctance stems from the fear that Kim Dotcom and the other defendants could use information gained via a detailed user data hearing to help defend the existing criminal case against the company.’

    this is another ‘clutching at straws’ exercise by MacBride to keep the truth of his fuck up from being broadcast and the names of those who he performed this whole screw up for out of the press. i very much doubt if Goodwin or his lawyers would take the chance of trying to go to court knowing that there was stuff in his account that could be damning. i also doubt if he would risk his business by doing anything untoward either. i find it strange that MacBride or someone for him has managed to find the correct account and check what was in it and that there are pirated music files. was anyone from the court with them when the files were checked? the files could easily have been planted by MacBride or his colleagues, as a reason not to allow them to be released. not that these people would do anything illegal or underhanded, of course!!

    • Guest

      No doubt the DOJ will ask to see the registered copyright details of Mr Goodwin’s files and if the files in question have not been registered for copyright then they will say that Mr Goodwin does not own the copyright of the files and that these files are therefore piracy and Mr Goodwin has no case.

      • Guest

        That’s silly – registering for copyright has never been necessary. Just ask John Steele and other pornography copyright trolls; they can sue for porn flicks whose copyright is registered MONTHS after the alleged download occurred.

        • Guest

          Do you honestly believe that the MPAA are going to let someone win this case against them if the person in question can’t prove that they own the files. Of course the MPAA are going to ask for prove of registered copyright because if there is any chance that the copyright is not registered to Mr Goodwin then they have won their case against Mr Goodwin.

    • Guest

      Since Mr Goodwin expressed an interest in getting his files the DOJ will no doubt be doing a background check on Mr Goodwin and getting as much dirt as possible that they can find on Mr Goodwin to use against him to discredit him.

  • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

    well if theyd only finally find the warrant invalid, it would mean the auhorities couldnt legally look at the files or even bring anything they have seen or gained in the search against anybody later on.

    • Guest

      I doubt that they will find anything illegal about the warrant since they can’t abide by due process of law that has occurred so far with this case.

      • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

        my point was of a reminder that the warrant WAS invalid, and thats whats been a big factor of the whole MU case. which would mean anything they do find will leave them screwed as soon as the warrant is finally found illegal

  • Who

    “The U.S. Government points out that the Megaupload user in question may not technically be the owner of his uploaded files”

    how can they prove that, they can’t because its a copy. the US and the entertainment industry have ZERO brains. this so call copyright infringement is WAY OUT OF CONTROL.

    next the auto industry will start in on this shit and say just because you buy a vehicle from us you do not own it.

    “O that’s right they are trying to put there 2c in to this copy right shit. downloading a car from TPB is wrong? who but the already Rich own the machine to even do such a thing?”

    so I am not legally allowed to let my neighbor use my car. I am not allowed to make a profit off my car, or even rent it out. or change it in any way from that of the manufactures original design.

    Piracy= to make a copy of something and use in a manner that it was NOT intended.

    Steel/theft= to take something from some one with out there permission. *file sharing is excluded from this as you are NOT steeling from the original owner*

    Copy infringement= to make a copy of copyrighted works and CLAIM OWNERSHIP of that works. *again file sharing is excluded from this as the person claims no ownership to the original works* *anybody that does is a dumb ass!*

    same shit applies ether way you look @ it.

    would some one please put a stop to this copyright HORSE SHIT.

    • Anon

      Shut up you fucking idiot.

      Big deal , the bitch had pirate stuff and now he cant get it back and suddenly the world is evil LOL. Look , I’m a pirate big time but please, If you pirate/use pirate stuff and get caught don’t expect it back. Not to mention he was making money indirectly from it. He should know better ! Wow 2 fucking idiots , you should hook up with him and do buttsechs in the shower.

      Oh and you will physically own the car , just wont own the OS that runs the tech side of it ( assuming you have a decent car that uses such tech). Same as you own a license for Windows/Apple products. You may pwn teh hardware but thats it cock sucker.

      • Guest

        Do you own that air you breath. You better hope so.

        • Who

          sorry man my comment was not directed to you.
          it was directed to Anon.

        • Who

          WoW this site is screwed up. now it says it was directed to the right user LOL

      • Who

        wow you are just as STUPID as the FUCKING DICK HEADS trying to stop this LOL.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Really? What you mean to say is that if anyone has a backup copy of a legally bought file, then that person must suddenly prove his innocence?

        That’s not how the law works. It’s how a lynch mob thinks.

        Now if the DOJ believes Goodwin is a pirate then the burden of proof is on them. You, on the other hand, in claiming his tacit guilt, are suddenly liable for prosecution as you just libeled the man.

        But as usual there’s one law for you and another for everyone else, right?

        Oh, and by the way? If you learn to spell, use proper grammar, and formulate your sentence into something other than the peeved rant of a seven-year old then perhaps you might actually be able to back up whatever facts you choose to bring to the table.

        If you ever come up with any. I’m not holding my breath.

        • IDIOCRACY

          Should the complaining or sueing party have access to the same evidence as the defence? therfore Mister goodwin should have access to the same files too, even only to coplywith proper due proces rules… or what??
          So in other words, didn’t the DoJ just screw himself?? hehe

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          @IDIOCRACY

          Yes, indeed, it is a stringent criteria that both plaintiff and defendant has access to all material which is to be used as evidence.

          Hence the DoJ could indeed be screwed, if Goodwin manages to apply due jurisprudence in this case. If they suspect misconduct then they must either present a valid case (in which case he gets his files back), or they must drop it (in which case he gets his files back).

          The only problem is for how long they can “extend” said investigation before a judge orders them to release his material.

          Hell, I can recall at least one court case where the defendant, being accused of possessing vast amounts of Child pornography (the real Mccoy, not today’s “below-18-in-a-bikini” definition) who spent the months before trial “reviewing” the evidence extensively every night, to the chagrin of the officers who had to bring him his stash every day…

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      To play realist here, as I always do: copyright protections protect the author/holder from others reproducing the IP.

      How you think it should work or what you think is right is irrelevant.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        If we want to play realist then we must also state – emphatically – that copyright has never worked nor been enforceable.

        Not even when the catholic church first attempted it.

  • Chuck

    DOH!

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    uhm, how do you figure it out by hash if music is pirate when it’s part of video file? how the fuck? -_-

    • Guest

      They probably got the same answer from where they got all those Billions lost due to piracy.

    • Guest

      you don’t.. not by hash. But by audio watermarking.

  • Guest

    If RIAA would go watch the last South Park episode they would learn a few important things

  • Apexdigit

    Ironic that the govt can go to such length to prevent a video maker from possibly using some tune as background music for a perfectly legit sports video, yet they cannot find and stop the numerous telemarketers that flout the do-not-call list and rip off gullible folks by selling phony credit repair kits and non-existant security systems. Perhaps pirates should use dial-up modems and transfer files as 56K. The DOJ doesn’t seem able to catch land-line phone crooks! Sometime it is difficult to be proud to be an American.

    • Guest

      What makes me laugh is the great lengths that the MPAA are going through with the DOJ with the Megaupload case regarding making sure that the users don’t get there files back because they don’t want there copyright files to be further infringed and yet anyone with half a brain cell will know that any copyright infringement files that were available on Megaupload is also available on other sites like Rapidshare, Dropbox and 100′s of other sites which so far are still operating and further allowing copyright infringement to be further compelled by people. The MPAA’s efforts to further stop copyright infringement with making sure that Megaupload users don’t get there files back when there are other sites still operational completely shows there pathetic double standards futile attempts to stop further copyright infringement.

  • Guest

    Can someone explain why the U.S. Government has been allowed to look into the private files of the users of MegaUpload when it is MU and their methods that are being prosecuted and brought to question? Even if those files have been obtained in a manner that they don’t agree with, holding copyrighted material isn’t a crime. They would have to proove they had been obtained in an illegal manner, which they can’t.

    • Norris

      They (USA) can do what they want , they dont need to respect laws rules etc , they are above … they foolish people to belive in – “innocent until proven guilty” but in fact they act for “Guilty until proven innocent”.
      This is the new American way. And no evidence is necessary to order someone killed

      etc etc etc

      So foget about bullshit lies like “laws” “human rights” “freedom ” etc all are just lie to foolish people to control manipulate people without fight , to make people submissive and obedient

  • Alyssa Blindy

    The checksum can prove that a file was pirated? Seriously? The checksums of pirated files are different than those legally purchased? If so, that’s a bit odd. Hmmm. Maybe I should test that with Dan Bull’s music; download one copy of a song from the pirate bay and then compare the checksum with that of the legally purchased song.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      They aren’t different unless you are talking about DRM encumbered files, which NO online seller has been selling for a long time now.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      No, the checksum of two identical files will be identical. Hence you would see a difference only if the origin was, in fact, two nonidentical files.

      You could tell a cammed copy from a DVD-rip but not the difference between two rips from the same DVD, for instance.

      • Guest

        meh.. change one tiny itsy-bitsy setting in the ripper or codec and you’ve got a whole different hash. Regardless if it was ripped from the same dvd or not.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Yes, but if you do it’s not an identical rip anymore. And to be blunt, that only underscores the case for reasonable doubt on whether you can determine whether a copy is a legitimate backup or an illicit one.

          Hence it’s still a resounding no on whether you can tell whether a copy is legitimate or not.

  • Dondilly

    The accusation of music files from pirated sources, surely if two or more people rip copies of a mass produced cd (from the same master) using the same commonly available player/ripper and codec, I sould say there is every chance the hashes would be the same.

    One thing of concern, hasnt the library of congress just published their tri-annual review of copyright? I know they have clawed back the right to unlock/jailbreak a phone (now not without telco permission) and an absurd ruling on tablets, allowing the breaking of drm to improve access to the disabled even though the supply of tools to do it is illegal. They also removed any fair use for space shifting (ripping dvds and CDs to home servers.

    It seems more than coincidence that days after that publication the DOJ questions his ownership of music files for personal use. The article omits to say if the files were in a private or public area.

    • Guest

      Nope. slight normal differences in CD error checking and settings in the ripper program and all that. All those variables are not going to be the same from machine to machine. Just the nature of the beast. So the hashes are going to be different.

  • Andrew Lee

    No surprise here they’ll fight to the bitter end then as usual send out damage control. Still you’d think that they would have been doing this by now. This is an issue time will not fix people are not going to forget.. Especially when they want their shit back they’ll have a hard time letting this one go.

    If they had their files returned yeah people will forget about it eventually but since this is not the case I can see this one going on for a good while.

    • Guest

      The DOJ can’t give up now not whilst the extradition is going on because if they give up now before the extradition then there will never be an extradition and the case will be lost. If there is an extradition then there is still chance for them to win this case. They will come out bull crap after bull crap no matter how pathetic it makes them look in order to keep the case on going. The longer the case goes on the more chance that they have that Dotcom will use up all his money fighting this case. When Dotcom has no more money then the DOJ will win the case be default.

  • Mil

    Just becouse of this, i will definitely subscribe to the new Mega. That’s how it should have been the first place.

  • weldo

    MEGA will only be able to support non credit card and yes bitcoin

  • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

    DoJ will fuck you if you go after them. Here is an example of that. They’ll find something on anyone. ~50,000 pages of law. Do you know them all? Even they don’t. Enough digging and they can throw anyone in the clink.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      DoJ can kiss my ass. They try that bullcrap and I will push back HARD against them.

      • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

        There are many tens of thousands in federal prison right now who probably shouldn’t be there. The DoJ get who they want to get. Their resources are unlimited.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Not unlimited. But close enough.

          The only way to beat the DoJ is with political backlash. If an incumbent president in an election year feels he stands to lose votes because the citizenry now associate him with dirty cops, the leash gets shortened fast.

          That said, I doubt it’s possible to generate such a backlash here.

  • icec0ld

    Hilarious. The US Gov has some how taken the fuck ton of Megaupload servers they hold, hooked them up, queried the entire encrypted data base and found all of Goodwins data as well as somehow verified the sources of music within the video clips from established torrents?

  • AreTheyFuckingReal

    So we are now to believe that someone who has incriminating evidnce on Megauploads servers is going to pursue the DoJ in a court of law to get back illegal files that could put that person in prison.

    I know that the entertainment industry is running this facade but it’s looking more like it the scriptwriters are having more than their fair share of input.

  • Anon

    I enjoy all the moaning about America. If the USA took down their immigration obstacles for one week half the world would flood in. lol
    Pirates cheering anarchy are not very smart. These comments are strong evidence.

    • Guest

      What the fuck does immigration have to do with anything?

      Get back on your meds, please.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Don’t be too sure about that. A lot of people are going home to their home countries since the United States has gotten so anti-immigrant (documented or not) in the past 3 years.

    • Guest

      Half the world? Half the less-informed world, maybe. Three billion people on the surface of America would terrify anyone smart enough to use a computer.

      Of course, you’re amongst the exception.

    • Tom

      You could pay for my plane ticket and buy me a house and I still wouldn’t move there and I suspect the majority of people wouldn’t move either. Why would the majority of people want to live somewhere less free?

  • JordanKratz

    My Government is so full of shit.Just another day in the hilarious but very sad events going on in my Government.
    I do not need to Elaborate on this News Story.
    WE all know it is just a bunch of Phony Lies AKA Government Smoke Screen AKA Propaganda for the Mindless Mass Consumers.

    I Boycott the MAFIAA and am very proud of doing this.No iTunes,AMZ,Netflix, ETC and no more New Physical Media.
    And if I see SCOTUS Fuck me for selling and buying used stuff then I will be forced to no longer Buy Local & Indie Art.Why bother doing that if you can not own anything and you can not Resell or even Will to your Heir.

  • senvooo

    lol the US Government is a joke. How pathetic. Bunch of losers.
    io-anon.tk

  • Ophelia Millais

    The U.S authorities on the other hand want to limit the hearing to the issue of whether Mr. Goodwin actually owns the data he wants returned. This question should be answered first, the Government states, as this would “avoid a fishing expedition into a pending criminal prosecution.”

    I’m sorry, what? They want to avoid a fishing expedition? They’re searching through the guy’s private files to find dirt—the very definition of a fishing expedition!

  • MadAsASnake

    Birds singing in the background will be infringing next,…. I’m astounded. Did DOJ REALLY turn on those servers and extract is stuff? Did they have a warrant? Based on what?

  • Guest

    If the DOJ can fish through Megaupload’s server files like this prior to the trial, what’s to stop them from planting evidence while they’re in there?

    Everything else they’ve done in this case has been illegal, so don’t expect “respect for the law” to stop the DOJ from pulling a stunt like that if they have to.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      That is exactly what I bring up in cases like this. The fact is that the average LEO is no more nor less ‘honest’ than we are and I can personally see LOTS of situations where I would plant evidence. Why do we think that they would not do this?

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Worse, I think. Given how legislation has expanded over the last thirty years, it is for most people actually impossible – or at least very hard – to remain completely within the law. There are even examples of double binds where following one law means you break another.

      Normally not a problem, but if a police officer wants you nailed, he can almost always ensure you are, on some trumped-up minor misdemeanor.

      Failing that, you can always make someones life a misery by calling in an unwarranted tax audit or two, meaning you get to spend a year or two sorting out every receipt you were ever given during the last ten years.

  • Guest

    “The U.S authorities on the other hand want to limit the hearing to the issue of whether Mr. Goodwin actually owns the data he wants returned. ”

    lol @ the hypocrosy

    Whether or not Goodwin owns the data in question, the U.S. authorities sure as hell don’t own any of the data they stole from MegaUploadand its users.

  • d_e_n_n_i_s

    On 19 January we were told the servers were turned off. The exclusive controlling rights to all data — and the preservation of that data — is Kim Dotcom and partners as the “alter egos” and owners of Megaupload Limited. In an order in May the Extradition Judge ordered that no evidence was to be tampered with until the issue of the return of everything that effectively became collateral damage was sorted. Quite opposite to that order data was copied. The servers in the US must also be bound by his directions and if he was told they are turned off I wonder how Goodwin’s material was found or copied? Keep in mind that this judge had to find comparative evidence in his mind to satisfy himself that this extradition request is valid in order to proceed. If the evidence, when it comes, shows that the business does legitimately host significant data that is “non infringing” then he has been holding four persons under arrest and under bail conditions, including having to report regularly to police, without any justifiable authority to do so. If the elemental and evidential base of the charge is a type of offending that would always be civil in nature, with no criminal liability attached if prosecuted under New Zealand Law, the warrant to arrest becomes invalid, if not unlawful because the issuing judge was supposed to give due thought to the nature of the charges. It referred specifically to 2 New Zealand made films contained on the servers. If this judge is saying “hang on a minute, hold everything, let us sort through this step by step” and the US Federal Judge is saying “do what you like”, this is chaos. It is not surprising he insinuated the enemy is US in respect of TPP lobbying. It is also not surprising that he decided to throw in the towel because the US judge is not devising any specific workable line of action compared to what he had in mind and is providing no assistance at all to resolving the issues within a reasonable time frame. He wanted everything he needed to determine if the alleged infringements could form the basis of criminal prosecution under New Zealand Law within 3 weeks maximum. 5 more months have passed and the US have come up with nothing. This is complete and utter contempt of the New Zealand Extradition Court and the Laws of New Zealand. The would-be appeal holding things technically from proceeding at the moment has to get around this sentence to have any merit at all: Section 25 (4)(b) EA1999 states: “Nothing in this section limits the evidence that may be admitted at any hearing to determine whether a defendant is eligible for surrender” If it can be done then the three judges will have to be studying real hard all available versions of the English encyclopedias of sophistry. Undoubtedly they will all become knight and dames if they succeed

  • Jimbo

    providing he has got nothing to worry about, it maybe a reasonable idea to sue the arse off of the government or at least off of MacBride, as he seems to be the instigator of the charges. the ‘dirty tricks’ the DoJ/government are employing seems to know no bounds!

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      One problem with that. You cannot sue the DoJ. The Government has sovereign immunity. They can only be sued if they allow themselves to be sued. There are only 2 instances I am aware of (one is in a bit of gray area) and neither apply to this situation.

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  • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

    A lot of people here seem to have little knowledge of how the US federal government operates.

    -They hold grudges;
    -Agency rules and law provide a massively disproportionate power over any individual or private entity;
    -Simply put, you cannot sue them. Look up “FTCA” for more information on that;
    -Unlimited resources;

    Once you have their attention, it will becoming a life changing event for you. For them? Another day at the office.

    This is why those who know how the DoJ operates, know not to go up against them.

  • EdEaster

    lol.

    at Goodwin. Watta jerk.

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      Jerk or not, it’s jerks who get shit done. Pussies let people get away with shit. Can’t have tyranny without the masses giving a blind eye toward it. “Oh those wonderful SS agents keeping us safe. May God bless them!”

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  • USPIGS

    Goodwin just need to purchase all that music down at the music store and say he downloaded the music as they were COPIES of his original music. Simples.

    But this is just another tactic by the US Govt. Can’t win against it.

  • guest456

    All he needs to do I to buy original CD and claim, it§s his legal copy of purchased CD.

  • CL

    Mr “Good Wins doesn’t exist lmfa. It’s a ploy to amplify the idea that ‘most of the data is pirated’. It may backfire if NZ take retaliatory steps to prevent further unauthorized DoJ access to the stolen data. If not however, it sets the pace to manipulate and deny future personal lawsuit claims on a heightened piracy bias.

  • Guest

    jesus christ the level of idiocy in here is amazing. the comments section on this same article at arstechnica is like night and day when compared to this.

    and to the guys bitching about the us, you’re not helping your cause by making yourselves look retarded. the us government may be full of dicks, but these comments are full of autistic monkies.

    • Guest

      Can’t spell “monkeys”, calls other people retarded.

      • Guest

        yes, my hastily misspelled word really compares to all of the bollocks in these comments.

  • tonyj

    Bizarre. I still get all my music from youtube. I wonder if the DoJ ever looked into youtube with millions laying out copyrighted music tracks on their homemade or mobile device videos.

    • Guest

      Simple answer: Google owns Youtube. Google can bring far bigger guns to bear than even Kim Dotcom. Also, Youtube is more well known than Megaupload, especially for the majority of people that are borderline compute illiterate.

      Shutting down Youtube would have the same effect as the SOPA/PIPA blackouts, and that’s on top of the legal nightmare Google would unleash upon them.

  • Violated0

    I can only think the DoJ and FBI are trying as hard as they can to avoid people getting their files back to avoid the impossible situation that they soon face. In other words it would be an impossible task to sort through 25,000 TB of files while applying the copyright law of over 100 different countries.

    They only seem to have two choices. The first being employing a large part of the US Government along with tens of hundreds of millions of budget to sort all the files over many years. Or since that is quite unlikely to put all 25 PB of data back on-line and then to show to the World that they do as much infringement as MegaUpload did.

    Naturally they want to play pass the buck and simply say “not our problem”. The law is quite clear though that the US Government should always minimise their harm to third party property during a raid. Since their actions detached users from their own lawful files then it is indeed their responsibility to return them.

    • Guest

      It’s a wonder that the DOJ hasn’t tried to use the same argument of NZ prosecutors with stating that data is not physical with regards to the illegal transferring of data from NZ to the US and that as the data is not physical it therefore cannot be property etc. in order to get around the fact that Users cannot get there property back because it is not property being as it is just data. Well if the DOJ tries that argument then that will surely no doubt put a damper on the argument that copyright theft cannot be theft because it can only be theft if it is property.

      • Violated0

        Lucky you when the DoJ just did it again…

        “If mere use of the service was sufficient to create a legal ownership interest in servers leased by Megaupload from Carpathia, then there could be hundreds, if not hundreds of thousands, of ‘owners’ of each and every single Carpathia server,” the government argues. “Such a result is absurd.”

        Let me rewrite that…

        “If mere use of the service was sufficient to create a legal ownership interest in servers leased by Your Local Bank, then there could be hundreds, if not hundreds of thousands, of ‘owners’ covering each and every single Bank Account,” the government argues. “Such a result is absurd.”

        Yes US Government morons we all know that MegaUpload owns your files just as much as your bank owns your money. So what would exactly happen if the Government shut down a bank and deprived people of their money? Pandemonium I believe.

  • Pitifulman

    The world…is fucked up.

  • Boblenton3

    *puts turian mask on*

    Ahh yes ‘Pirated Music’ Something MegaUpload has ALWAYS done… Haven’t we already dismissed that claim?

  • sandyaj

    does anyone find this a bit too “Sopa-ish”?

    think about it, they are saying he used copyrighted music in his original videos, wasn’t that one of the factors that made sopa so frightful with youtube users? In fact this whole case is acting like SOPA really passed and the prosecution is pretending and warping wording that is was.

    There’s even traces of ACTA showing up especially with the searching through servers without a warrant. Both of which need to be tested in court over the violation both of those and this case makes against unlawful searches and procedures. Lets face it our constitution has been perverted to work only in favor of those copyright holders, the bill of rights is like a figment of our imagination.

    Its just too bad a good portion of our country are to racially-raged to vote out individuals responsible for applying such constitution raping laws in the first place… heres a hint for anyone voting on the 6th….

    REPUBLICANS WERE THE TOP PUSHERS AND VOTERS ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE CYBER-SNOOPING BILLS

    …and were the reason so many of US had issues getting jobs and aid over the past four years, with them cockblocking any thing obama tried to push forth to help us.

    I’m convinced that obama wont sign any future cyber-snooping bills into law, but we cant run the risk that a republican controlled congress would go over his head, and pass them anyway, so flush out the evil in congress, and we will have a foothold in protecting our online security and gaining back some of our dignity

    • Guest

      Have you forgotten that Biden, Obama’s Vice President, was the one that personally ordered the takedown on Megaupload, at the behest of Chris Dodd (who was also a Democrat senator before going to work for the MPAA)?

      The current Democrat party is basically the MPAA party.

  • Guest

    I just want to remind you that DARPA is part of the US government. They are the ones that are largely responsible for the evil mind control rays of the internet that are penetrating your tin foil hats. Many of the semi-literate people turning this post into an anti-US rally should be bitching about capitalism, not just one country that is controlled by it. All of your countries are capitalist whores just like the US. We all know this, your repeating of it just makes you sound like a foaming-at-the-mouth conspiracy theorist. Now, relax and go shopping like the slaves we all are.

  • joexxx

    If you’re stupid enough to store anything that you can’t afford to lose in the cloud, you deserve all the trouble!
    And if you do store it in the cloud make sure it’s encrypted!

  • Fake

    If every copy of the media are property and the RIAA & MPAA owns every copy then they owe property tax on every copy.

    That’s the way it works. Do you see that car dealership? They have to pay property tax and inventory tax every year.

    It seems the members of the content cabal are in arrears for income tax, property tax and inventory tax.

    The content cabal are criminals – cheating on taxes in time of war.

    The content cabal are guilty of treason.

  • Whatever

    md5 ? Is that all they have ? Not even SHA256 or a direct file comparison. Maybe they even just did a “Kazaa” type matching on the first few KB of the files.

    MD5 is weak and only usefull to check if files aren’t damaged. It should not be used as a comparison against millions of hashed files.

    They must have md5 hashes in the millions of “unauthorized copies” and without any further investigation on the file like filesize those must be collisions and therefore invalid as evidence.

  • RayZ fox

    Maybe he doesn’t own the rights to his videos because they are set to copyrighted music. But what about the persons wedding photos that they no longer have? The case isn’t specifically about him. Its about all the people who can no longer retrieve their files. For example Roe v. Wade a case where it was found legal to have an abortion was filed by Roe. It took 2 years to get to the supreme court and with human female gestation being 9 months Roe had already had her baby. The case was not thrown out simply because she no longer required an abortion. It was kept because other women would in the foreseeable future would need to do that same. Millions of people still need there files back even if Goodwin violated copyright laws with his music.

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