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Video Games Industry To Join Three-Strikes Anti-Piracy Scheme

While “three strikes” or graduated response-style schemes continue to spread, it is the mainstream music and movie industries that are the main beneficiaries of any supposed benefits. To date, makers of other digital products have been left to fend for themselves but if developments in France carry through, that will no longer be the case. According to the country’s Hadopi anti-piracy agency, in 2013 individuals sharing video games online could also be subjected to warnings and punishment.

As reported last month, French anti-piracy Hadopi has sent out a large number of warnings in the last two years to individuals it believes have engaged in online file-sharing of content protected by copyright.

Since 2010 rightholders have identified a total of 3 million French IP addresses. Of these, Hadopi considered around 1.15 million worthy of a “first strike” notice, 102,854 justified in receiving a second, and 340 in line for a third.

So far, all of these individuals have been accused of allowing their Internet connections to be used for the unlawful sharing of copyright music and movies, since these industries tend to be at the forefront of anti-piracy projects such as 3 strikes, or the upcoming 6 strikes scheme in the United States.

However, in France there is now likely to be a significant addition to the Hadopi scheme. According to PCInpact, next year the agency is anticipating that the video games industry will get on board.

The revelation comes in a performance forecast from Hadopi which suggests that in 2013 alone it expects to send out around 1.1 million warnings. In comparison, the agency issued around 1.5 million notices in total since October 2010.

The extra warnings in 2013 will be processed through a new information system capable of handling greater numbers of referrals, but Hadopi will also need to become more efficient overall.

After remarks in August by French Culture Minister Aurelie Filipetti that the agency is “too expensive to justify”, earlier this month it was announced that its budget will be cut from 11 million euros in 2012 to around 8 million euros in 2013. Negotiations are apparently still ongoing and a figure of 9 million euros has already been discussed.

France is believed to be the first country where the video games industry is involved in these organized anti-piracy efforts. The “six-strikes” scheme that will go live in the U.S. next month is limited to the movie and music industries.

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  • Jay-Z

    First

    Just kiddin i am not a moron

    • Teapot

      yes you are.

      • http://twitter.com/JustinB94292450 JustinBradley

        Jonathan answered I am shocked that a single mom able to make $6912 in four weeks on the network. have you seen this(Click on menu Home)

      • http://twitter.com/JustinB94292450 JustinBradley

        ….goo.gl/GhHJV

      • Guest

        They want to link, eg, Steam IP logs with BitTorrent IP logs.

    • Pinocchio

      You could have fooled me you daft c**t

      • Asashii

        daft c**t isnt that a techno group

        • ScrewEwe2

          All techno groups are daft c**ts, but not all c**ts are daft. With winter coming, I’ll have to get my warm c**t out of the closet. That c**t is a pretty tight fit. I should be able to get a few more good years out of that c**t before I have to get rid of it for a better c**t.

    • McCheezits

      You’re daft, punk.

      • Bananas

        daft punk it not techno, it is electro house ou something….

    • JordanKratz

      You God Damn Firster Scum !

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  • Gargamel

    Luckily I don’t live in France or the U.S :)

    • Pantagura

      no need to worry…..it will come to your country soon…..
      (sarcasm)

      the problem is that if they get their way in one….two…three countries, the rest will follow like puppets and bye bye internet…..

      • Guest

        Exactly.

      • DRuNKeN MaSTeR

        Luckily I have VPN and couldn’t care less about these laws. Also, I don’t live in France or US.

        • Guest

          They’ll go after VPNs.

    • dood

      You’re next. Assholes like you are why freedom is dying.

      • Nccodhft

        Nope. The reason freedom is dying is because morons like you, keep voting for retarded goverments to represent the rights of companies over the rights of their citizens.

        • Guest

          Yep, the retards that think they have to vote for the two main corrupt parties. Obviously these people are just sheep, and believe whatever their Governments tell them.

          You have other options than what’s printed on the ballot.

        • Guest

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skw-0jv9kts

          A typical dem AND rep mindset

    • Lll

      do not give into their efforts to stifle us. Information that can be replicated many times over essentially being a library (digital) should not be destroyed by mafiaa and friends. My recommendation is when they fire, fire back by increasing seeding, sharing of files, etc.

  • Hogspace

    It’s France. SNAFU

    • http://jessicamasterson.myopenid.com/ Jessica Masterson

      @Christopher Kidwell as Anthony explained I am amazed that any one able to earn $8376 in 1 month on the internet. did you look at this webpage…Nipp.me/e48

  • Will

    There are no winners to these policies.

  • Guest

    Oh shit, you know what this means? After two years HADOPI might refer another 14 pirates to French prosecutors!

    I’m shaking in my boots.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Yeah, 14 pirates referred after 2 years? Either their monitoring things blow or they cannot tell between a legal and illegal source at all.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Judging from the coverage on HADOPI so far you actually need to ask?

        Both, of course.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Que Anon quipping in going “See? See?! Doom is coming for all of you downloaders, Doom, I tell you, DOOM. You just wait!!!”

      I’m shaking in my boots too. For the same reason you are, i think. *rofl*

  • Victor

    with music i can go to Youtube download a music video and convert it to mp3 freely – so what exactly were the results of all the nonsense the RIAA has put out all these years? same result will be with video — and you can see the future of the game industry in the android market — in the end they work for us

  • Anonymous

    although i am not surprised at this move by the Games industry, considering 3 strikes laws are banned throughout the EU but are ignored by France, even though Hollande said he would repeal the Hadopi law, of which this is part, i am surprised that nothing has been said against their intentions. i am waiting to see what happens if the 3 strikes is actually carried out at any time, cause i predict France will be dropping itself well and truly deep in the crap with the EUCJ and the EUCHR. i have to wonder how much longer people are gonna put up with this shit? cant anyone, including companies, see that the entertainment industries are just chipping away, a little at a time, to get what they have been aiming at all along? when they eventually get to that point, it will be too late to reverse what has happened. in fact, it will be too late to even think about fighting them! unless they are in on the ‘master plan’, why else would governments worldwide keep backing these industries instead of stopping what they are doing?

  • Victor

    In the movie the Matrix, Neo got into the the trainman’s layer… The trainman told Neo quite frankly “You don’t get it, I [the trainman] built this place, down here I am God” — same holds true for the Internet and the computer as a platform.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Yep, when it comes to the internet, the people sitting behind the computers are ‘god’.

      • McCheezits

        Exactly. On the internet, one can be God, or even a super-God, depending on what they are using the internet for.

  • Games

    The games industry has no excuse. Games cost a lot of money. A good game always sells. A bad game is rarely promoted with a demo. There’s a need to pirate to prevent waste.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Agreed. That is the main reason why I usually pirate first or play a game at a friend’s house: to avoid wasting my money on a dross game wrapped up in gold foil.

    • http://twitter.com/Prungy Prungy

      But you’re supposed to just take the word of the reviewers they bought off that the game is good!

    • http://www.frontier-space.com/ Lethn

      I admit, I pirated fall of the samurai recently, it’s an okay expansion but £24.99 on steam for THAT?! If I had bought that game legitimately and had to put up with the DRM to boot I’d be pissed.

      It’s only thanks to the horrible evil that is filesharing that I’ve been able to avoid such costly mistakes being the unemployed no-lifer that I currently am, even if I did have money though, I’d still think twice, because before that used to be what a full game would cost which Fall of the Samurai just isn’t.

  • Anyone

    since Hadopi is such a success, of course more companies want to join it

    I hope this extortion scheme is revoked soon

    • MadAsASnake

      Simpler solution would be to make the users (ie the media cos) pay a share as they do in NZ rather than directly shafting taxpayers. We’ll quickly find that this sort of “success” isn’t worth paying for.

  • Bring Back Psygnosis

    I see the games industry just going the way of free to play online games that you then have the option of paying money to speed up progress or get extras – world of tanks for example.

    I stopped paying for games when I realised that £40 for a pile of shite that had the playing apeal of around 5 minutes was a bit rich!

    • Supurationdate

      £40 is actually pretty cheap – I’ve had AT LEAST 40 hours worth of play time out each of the past few games I’ve bought full price – that’s £1 an hour. Imagine going to see a 2 hour film at the cinema for £2 or a new mainstream album for less than £1 – it ain’t gonna happen.

      Also upfront payments (hopefully) removes the “PAY TO WIN” aspect – and I do like a level playing-field. In games and in life.

      The thing that really worries me is the imminent death of pre-owned – preowned is a great valve that makes games go down in price. Without it (single-use codes for all games in the next gen) there’s nothing to stop publishers charging more for longer.

      • MadAsASnake

        £40 is not cheap….

        • Supurationdate

          It’s not, but what is these days? “Cheap” is based on how long it lasts plus how often you buy a new one. Most people don’t buy games every day, or every week. But do you go out for a few pints twice a month? That’s £40 right there – I could list any number of trivial activities that cost more than £40 and last a lot less time than 40+ hours.

          Also, you can trade it in when you’re bored! (While that lasts) That’s money right back in your pocket.

          Like I said – the depreciation on games is incredibly fast. £40 too rich for you?, wait a few months. Anyone who pays full price for a game they don’t want is a fucking idiot.

          Bigger fish to fry people.

  • Midas

    I don’t pirate games(I buy them through steam(73 games about 1000 euros worth)) but I will never ever buy anything from the developers who support this draconic law. Fuck them.

    • Midas

      Notion to all developers:
      DO NOT TURN A SERVICE PROBLEM INTO A PRINCIPLE PROBLEM!

      Ubi didn’t win many customers with their DRM and neither will you if you support the violation of privacy of your customers.

      • MadAsASnake

        I can’t imagine any serious gaming company joining HADOPI. A strike rate of 14 out of 3000000 falls into the “what the hell are you thinking” category. Benefit from pirates caught so close to zero it doesn’t matter. Loss of good will for joining this vile joke, priceless.

  • Asashii

    wait until everthing is hosted on official servers like diablo 3 and you wont be able to play squat, and be forced to play on craptastic emulation servers, like how for somereason people do for W.O.W., then we will all be paying for the Games that are worth buying!

  • MadAsASnake

    So why are the first strike notices running at less than 50%? I’m guessing they carefully remove all companies (they’ll fight back), police, judges, politicians and a few others (like the Elysee Palace – that would be embarrassing). Even then 38% doesn’t seem enough. Could it be that a large percentage don’t resolve to a user?

  • Guest

    Yeah, just what a dying scheme that the government is cutting off funding for needed – an increase in scope that would require more funding that the new government isn’t keen on providing. To quote Yzma, “It’s brilliant, brilliant, BRILLIANT!”

    What are you going to do, Anon? Find someone who isn’t a gamer and charge him for several thousand bucks, then blame it on pirates? For someone who loves to claim that governments are getting more accurate and pirates are breaking less law, you have the track record of a train wreck.

  • Proud American

    Stupid cheese eating french frogs ruining it for the rest of us

  • dood

    Considering that the video game industry’s no better than Hollywood these days (supporting bad laws like SOPA, worthwhile purchases being few and far between, relying on the same oversaturation and stupid gimmicks that caused the first crash, etc.), I’m not shocked they’d do something like this.

  • Anonymous

    If big name brand video game company’s do go along with this the only thing gamers have to do is stop buying the video games. Than who will lose money? The video game players? No the game developers will lose in the long run. Who these people think they’re fucking with?

    • /a/non

      Ha! Haha! Hahaha!

      You’re a funny man. You actually think the vast majority of people will stop buying shovelware or pick up the tried and true “pirate before buying” scheme? Just look at EA sports or Activision’s Cawadooty. The same damn game released year after year for 60 dollars. And people still eat it up.

      The last game I bought without trying before buying was Dishonored because I genuinely thought it was going to be a good game. I was disappointed. I want my 60 dollars back.

      • Anonymous

        And like a dumb ass you bought the game instead, oh how “smart” of you. Maybe you should try cracking a few games for consoles and/or PC.

  • 0omg

    don’t tell me the game industry is trying to make the gamer hate them ….. you know the gamers know about computing right ?!?! dumb move really …..

  • .45

    So what? Everyone constantly bitches about this shit, but every pirate still pirates. Nothing ever changes. The only way to get those fat rich cunts to change the government is to kill them all. Crucify them down the main streets. Torch their families. Decapitate their kittens. There, problem solved. All this pissing and moaning gets nowhere.

    • Anyone

      spare the kittens, they didn’t know better!

      • Meow Is Murder

        Nah, fuck em. With their stupid little noses and ‘please play with me’ eyes. first up against the wall I say.

        • 7th_Guest

          Measure your words carefully now, sir. Hate speech against cats on the Internet is tantamount to blasphemy and may well call upon you the wrath of its Elder Gods. Humbly recant and bow out while you still can!

  • Kikedi

    Hadopi, France, EU, US..who gives a flying goblin. I don’t vote for those sucker. I make my own decision and vote with my actions. Anarchy is freedom.

  • Guest

    Ever heard about Steam? DRM.

    • paul

      steam is a drm I can understand. You can always put it on offline mode. Sure, I would rather it wasn’t necessary, but I can understand it.

      What pisses me off on it, is that I cant sell or gift my games. It is mine, if I want to sell, I should be able to fucking sell it.

      • Guest

        You can sell any game on Steam to other Steam users, not sure what the fuck you are going on about…since I do it on a daily basis.

    • 7th_Guest

      At least Gaben preaches a truthful message when it comes to piracy. If you have to give your hard earned cash to a big developer & producer, I say it might as well be Valve when measured up against everyone else.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Johnny-Cash/100002427462340 Johnny Cash

    First off, I got fucked by Sony already over a 20$ PSN card. Second, if gaming companies pull this shit on people I will MOD my PS3 and download as many games as I possibly can. I barely go online anyways!

  • JordanKratz

    And it won’t be long till the Six Strikes Bullshit enlarges to include games and literature and Art………….plus more.

    • Guest

      We’re halfway there – heard about the art textbook that was made compulsory for university students, but didn’t have any artwork in it because unable to pay for copyright?

  • jimbo

    Use the three-day trial for ipredator with OpenVPN. Then run tor through it. Download all you want, with just about no risk of being caught. Oh, and it’s going to be slow as molasses. But that’s what you lose because of these shitty laws.
    Oh and all comments will be sent to the MPAA.

  • Who

    expect video game’s and the consoles to just get pirated more now and on more sites.

  • Byte Master

    WTF or more apt: c’est quoi ce merdier? Didn’t Hollande run with the promise to do away with HADOPI when he was running for president? Oh yes he did!

    So now what? Just another lie that the French are going to “swallow” ?

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  • Martin Querly

    I don’t see why so many people are against these “strikes”. Would you rather have a number of chances to stop what you are doing, instead the government coming down hard of you immediately?

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      First of all because the “strikes” are shoddy. No normal judicial court would touch a case such as the ones HADOPI is handling.

      Secondly because a few million years of human evolution has imprinted the need to share information on an instinctive level which means filesharing – person A allowing person B to copy whatever s/he found good – will persist for as long as we humans are human. Trying to combat such behaviour is essentially as useless as telling the human race to give up ambition.

      And making laws against such behaviour is sheer nonsense, far worse than the US prohibition – or similar to communism in it’s attempts to re-engineer the ways humans work. Or like a mayor in the US trying to outlaw the “69″ position in NYC.

      Third, making a law which allows a court case to be established on sub-par evidence on the fact that an individual has copied a file in itself overturns proportionality and reason in the judiciary.

      And fourth…This system wastes taxpayer money on what amounts to completely irrelevant nonsense.
      10 million Euro a year is enough to employ 100 more policemen hunting real criminals, or improve real conditions for real people. Instead that cash is thrown into a lake in order to cater to the whims of an industry which claims they are losing 42 times what the entire world has in gross national product each year.

      So yea. HADOPI is bad, as is any system which wastes any resource at all in combating filesharing. You might say I view any such effort as a “lost sale” where real crime fighting is concerned.

    • Guest

      Your comparison makes as much sense as the following question: Would you rather get shot in the head once, or get shot four times?

      Any copyright enforcement so far has such a disastrous track record involving collateral damage, you’ll forgive the rest of the world for taking “3 strikes” with a shaker of salt. For fuck’s sake, the one person that the government came down hard on wasn’t even the right person.

      The way “3 strikes” is being handled is hardly different from how things have always been handled, except that it’s proving to be very expensive for taxpayers.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      To add to both mine and Guest’s previous comment…because of the inherent uncertainty in using ip adresses as “evidence”, past attempt have proven that you are highly likely to send your extortionate “warnings” to people who don’t even own computers, who have never fileshared in their lives, to laserprinters, to the wrong adressee, or to people who were dead at the time the file was shared.

      There is a good case for treating any evidence gathered on ip alone as hearsay. And to make any sort of legal redress against mere hearsay without guilt presumed by default is completely unacceptable.

      No matter how many “warnings” are given. Unless you actually have some form of evidence that someone has committed a felony, you don’t even get to warn him.

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  • Guest

    Most of the games I currently have purchased, I pirated first to try them out.

    • Try Before You Pirate

      Really? Most of the games I pirated I realised that they weren’t worth me paying for anyway. Of the two games I really enjoyed recently, that had a lot of replay appeal, one was free online and the other I bought second hand. Go figure.

  • Boblenton3

    Games these days operates via Steam or Origin which is absoulty crap because if you barely use the service you forget the username and password to sign in and if you forget it the game is dead to you. I have lost 2 games because of this Skyrim and F.E.A.R 2. All i want to do is play my games I paid £35 or £40 why should I have to sign in some serivice which will bottleneck my PC’s memory.

    The gaming industry have already worked against piracy and thats why some games are purposely injected with bugs to work against cracked games (e.g random crashes, out of sync’s, etc) and yet when you actully buy the game you STILL get problems.

    Batman Arkham City – DX11 was unstable I couldnt play the game for over a month.

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  • Guest

    Steam coming to Linux.

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