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When Pirates Become Copyright Cash Cows

Copyright laws were once written to allow content creators to protect their work, but at an increasing rate copyright is used to carefully extract money from file-sharers. Some tracking companies go as far as leasing copyrights, with the sole intent of setting up a ‘honey pot’ for pirates.

pirate cowIn the past months we’ve seen that the RIAA has won two prominent lawsuits, raking in $1.92 million and $675,000 respectively. At the same time and outside of the spotlights, thousands of file-sharers were contacted in what can only be described as a pirate ‘honey pot.’

Meet Digiprotect, the pirate tracking company that earned its marks tracking down ‘adult’ pirates, but branched out to protecting the works of all sorts of copyright holders. Over the years the company has perfected its pirate tracking tactics to guarantee maximum profits.

Although most companies operating in the same realm try to fly under the radar as much as possible, Digiprotect’s account manager Thomas Hein is more vocal about their business strategies. In an interview he gave a while ago he explains how his company leases copyrights so they can trap potential downloaders.

“We get the legal rights from the companies to distribute these movies to stores, and with these rights we can sue illegal downloaders. Then we take legal action in every country possible, concentrating on the places where such action will be profitable,” Hein says.

So Digiprotect acquires the right to distribute movies, music or games from the rights holders, which they then share on various P2P networks. All they have to do is wait for people to take the bait. If someone tries to download the file they collect the IP-address and initiate legal action through one of their befriended law firms.

That is, if it’s profitable, otherwise Digiprotect can’t afford to protect the copyright holder’s rights, as Hein explains.

“No one working for DigiProtect has a fixed salary. If we make money, everybody makes money. If we don’t, nobody does. This means the lawyers, sales people and customers. It’s all about how much money can be recouped and then sharing it.”

Indeed, it’s all about the money.

“Our success rate is high enough to make good money for everybody,” Hein says, “and it’s also high enough to deter people from stealing content in the future. But we have to be careful about the amount of damages we ask for.”

So how does one go about making ‘good money’? Apparently it’s not only important where you sue people, but also the amount of damages you claim.

“We try to find a figure that covers our costs and pays money to our licensors, which is usually around 500 Euro ($700). Other firms are going for huge amounts of money, and the judges don’t like it. If the judges feel you’re being greedy, they won’t rule in your favor.”

Yes, you’re reading it right. The damage figures are not based on any actual losses, they are carefully calculated to guarantee maximum profits for all parties, except the alleged pirate of course. We can’t help but wonder who the real thieves are here…

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  • Amareus

    Disgusting, utterly disgusting. I am ashamed of the world I live in.

  • vyvyan

    what is pirate cow doing here?

  • an0n

    Good reason to use btguard!

  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    “We can’t help but wonder who the real thieves are here…”

    With “Hollywood accounting”,”creative accounting”
    stories from people like Courtney cox and various artists that have been cheated by the RIAA, the RIAA lawsuits, etc etc
    there really is nothing to wonder, the only thing to wonder is how long are we supposed to put up with it?

    We got to take these bozos out and sting them up from the first tree.

    The _have_ just backed up my argument of using a VPN though, I would like to see them try to sue the IP address that shows up when I use my VPN connection… then see their faces when given the finger.

  • Stuntlife

    Just a thought: if Digiprotect acquires the right to distribute the content on p2p networks, doesn’t that mean the copyright holders allow the content to be shared on the p2p network? So in that case, downloading is not at all illegal.

    Furthermore, Digiprotect’s strategy of entrapment, is illegal in some countries, like the Netherlands. If Digiprotect were to sue me, I’d be more than happy to go to court. My claim would be a little higher than 500 dollars though, just for kicks.

  • ann non

    Ah jeez… I’d rather have them contact me with an offer to buy the original. I’d be grateful if someone directed me towards the rare and forgotten stuff I’m trying to get… I’d rather get a dvd than wait months for a single seed.

    or better yet: “Pay us X and we’ll legalize the torrent for you”. Ha, that would be a good use of copyright ownership…

  • Pirate

    It is simply to refuse pay. They never sue peoples which don’t pay so no reason to pay.

    Use other peoples wireless connections.

    Or use VPN.

    There is many ways to avoid.

    I think I have got like 10 letters to pay from pirate tracking companies. I never paid anything and nothing hapens.

    I don’t afraid to be sued because I don’t pay nothing no matter what hapens.

  • SomeoneWhoThinks

    a VPN? I’d actually wanted to know that. Soppouse you would mean to use osmething like TOR, in wich your IP adress isn’t actually your real.

    Anyway. We can’t make a global riot and take over all countries? Damn, wait, we can’t :O

    Suppouse noone can actually win. UNLESS… unless more and more companies start doing Free Games, Music, Movies.

  • anonymous

    so, if they cannot sell their crap,
    they force people to buy it.
    Sounds like standard ‘first ones free’
    MAFIAA business model.

  • Pirate

    Don’t guys support MAFIAA = RIAA, MPAA, IFPI.

    Never buy music, movies, games, programs, tv-shows. Always download free from internet. When you buy you give your money to MAFIAA.

    I have not bought anything for 10 years. I get all from internet free and I will not never pay for sure :)

  • Pirate

    You can also use DARKNET and nobody knows what you do it is same with VPN also :)

  • Anonymous

    I buy games all the time. But I also download alot of games. If it carries on in this way they soon wont be seeing any money from me at all.

  • RoestVrijStaal

    Companies like DigiProtect and their costumers (=MAFIAA) are in this way even more worse then p2p-paysites…
    Stealing money from the people with lawsuits, and give artists the lowest salary of the whole society.

  • rickatnight11

    I’m a bit confused. How did

    “We get the legal rights from the companies to distribute these movies to stores, and with these rights we can sue illegal downloaders…”

    become

    “…which they then share on various P2P networks.”

    The article takes the jump to setting up P2P “bait”, which I assume means creating and monitoring torrents, but never mentions where that information came from. The only quote is the one I pasted above, which doesn’t say anything about creating P2P honey-pots.

  • Patton

    Seriously, that has to be illegal in some way.

  • DarkFallz

    I say all these companies doing this should prepare for a very unpleasant wake-up call from people a lot more powerful then them. Sounds like another job for Anonymous

  • Anon y mous

    lol Digiprotect are morons. They will never stop people sharing.

  • anon

    @2

    “cash cow” but w/ pirates

  • Hmmm

    Woot. A non pirate bay artical

  • time traveling white rabbit

    buncha criminals at digiprotect

    ill never pay for anything again until this whole copyright thing gets sorted out…and even then i wouldnt pay as im used to being instantly gratified without having to spend a dime.

  • rierro

    Well duh. Wasn’t it obvious? This is how they adjust the market – they get more money FROM pirating then they get without it.

    Their secret is that they bitch about stuff and make fake claims, and rely on the media to do the rest. Then when it’s lawsuit time, they can get millions of dollars when they only lost thousands.

  • uknowme

    My kitchen looks like an internet cafe as lots of friends like to go online at the same time as me (gaming, etc. is more fun that way) when they come to visit (which is every bloody day!!)

    So, when I have 6 computers that get used by up to 15 people on any given day… and if we are all co-accused… NOBODY CAN BE PROSECUTED.

    See ya in court MAFIAA, I’ll be the one laughing their ass off!!

  • Matt

    The RIAA didn’t rake in any money from those lawsuits and the defendants will just file for bankruptcy .

  • Anonymous

    See if you read. They’re only after one thing, money. Why does a world we live in have a chronic addiction for it. You see, only how rich people are just after people for money, look at Microsoft for an example, you’re not purchasing the operating system, you’re just purchasing a license. Sound’s fucked up right?

  • .NetRolller 3D

    What a classical example of copyright abuse…

  • MM99

    The whole point is raking in the money….seriously, this is nothing new.

  • Xcel

    I agree 100% with #5, #3 is on target as well, personally I use Peer Guardian, started with Protowall… BTguard is probably better but it defeats the purpose of being a pirate, LoL, eg; you have to pay for the BTguard service, and until I ever do have an issue with PG, (havent in all the years I have been DLing)im not going to worry about it…

    Back on topic, What Digiprotect is doing is entrapment, and illogical, if the copyrights were given for the purpose of sharing then it could never be considered illegal to download them..

    Short Version, the entire subject is ridiculous…

  • Anonymous

    Talk about a guy who needs to get a life..

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like another fly-by-night mediadefender “Randy Saaf with his dick in his ass” to me. We all know how that turned out. I wouldn’t sweat this, sounds like another firm trying to capitalize on file sharing.

  • Anon E. Moose

    Careful people.

    Remember the act of downloading is NOT what you get screwed for…
    It’s the act of UPLOADING.

    In a Torrent swarm, your client does both. By UPLOADING you give away that which is not yours (you have no license for and you are facilitating the theft of) and that is what you get prosecuted for.

    Just FYI.

  • ByteThief

    By reading user comments from established torrents, digiprotect “bait” can be avoided. Thanks for the heads up!

  • TheArtist

    I hope that pretty soon all music/movie industry tycoons and anti-pirate organizations will be sued and convicted for crimes against humanity.

    There is only one way to win. STOP using their movies and music. START making your own on e.g. Creative Common licenses.

    Share its fair.

  • DigChrono

    That should be illegal
    Though TECHNICALLY it is, I guess, though if they’re masquerading as legitimate pirates, then they can’t sue, if the downloader didn’t agree to something saying that they can sue any downloader if they lose the lease.
    And who would download a torrent with fine print thats NOT info on quality/etc.

    They’re way worse than anybody that they sue.

  • jack

    My isp does not give a feck… so, they fail again. Thanks for the free movies.

    J.

  • techy

    There should be an investigation to see how much money actually gets to the artists that these guys are suing for.

  • Salvatore

    @ Ernesto,

    Did you notice you did dozens of articles on Piratebay while speculating on even the color of their socks.

    Now Mininova has lost their court case and had to go and filter.

    Could you keep us updated on that situation too please?

    We want more articles on Mininova and less about Piratebay!

  • anonymous

    @19 Woot. A non pirate bay artical

    This is true for the most part, except they included a cow with thepiratebay logo stamped on it.

  • LOL

    All this, and they even have the nerve to say we’re “stealing”. LMFAO, irony at its best.

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  • rofl

    Digiprotect is not going after pirates with no money so this because that would not be cost effective so ‘We can’t help but wonder who the real thieves are here…’ is just a wee a bit exaggerated. Or biased for that matter.

    quote

    ‘According to one of those prosecutors, the Pirate Bay makes $4 million a year from advertising on its site. That site is currently tracking one million BitTorrent files, has 2.5 million registered users, and has peaked at more than 10 million simultaneous users downloading files at one time. That comes to $1.60 per registered user per year in terms of what they are worth to advertisers. Not a very high rate. But then, this is a volume business.’

  • www.torrentkit.com

    its a shame.

  • theProfessor

    I would have thought this was entrapment, which is illegal.

  • Vwe

    isnt that illegal? by sharing they are infringing their own copyright laws… their fishing , if they didnt share people wouldnt download. so its their fault …

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  • Austin Walker

    Its funny. This whole system is just one giant hypocrisy. You can’t escape the system anymore, by not watching movies they still make money. By watching their movies for money you’re just funding corporations producing more and more shitty movies and increasing their monopoly on the business.

    And apparently, even the alleged corrupt do-gooders, who should fight this system. Have enemies among their ranks?

    It seems like a Lovecraft novella, everyone taking each other down a notch by going one step lower themselves. And where does the spiral lead? Anarchy.

  • Brice Stacey

    There is no reason for pirate cow to be here. Sure, the pun is fitting, but pirate cow should not be brought into this. Pirate cow is a reputable work of art that stands up for piracy.

  • xcopy

    So can I write a crappy little program, advertise/seed it using BitTorrent, log addresses of peers that aquire/upload the data, subpeona the ISPs for their details, then fire off demands for compensation? Surely I can, right? Is there an actual difference between ‘digiprotect’ and me that would prevent me from doing that? I mean, I wouldn’t “get the legal rights from the companies to distribute” because the rights would already be mine, so I wouldn’t have to. And my offering of the content over BitTorrent would be specifically intended only for those authorised by myself as the legal rights holder as being able to copy and distribute the content, which would be no one except for my main man, Bob, from Brazil, who I haven’t met yet, but fully intend on doing so soon as to arrange for some favourable media distribution dealings.

    So can I do that? I’m thinking it could make for a nice offshoot business as an aside from my awesome software development.

  • Anon

    Sounds like they’re being paid to do absolutely nothing but harvest IP addresses and fire off legal threats. Get off your asses and get real jobs, there are people out there breaking their backs for 15 hours a day just to pay the bills because of scum like you!!!

  • Colin

    And people say prostitution is immoral…

  • x

    #32 is right… turn your backs on the industry, we don’t need them, it’s just consumeristic bullshit, with much of it intended to get you to boost the GDP by buying useless crap you don’t need… with much of this crap laughably called “art” even when money is 99% of the motivation.

  • #YLS#

    Never supprised, you know when big labels are working on sueing it’s going to be somewhat dodgy let alone when they had off the responcibility to another company it just becomes pure greedy/criminal behavior.

  • redcam

    Uploading a torrent with the intentions of gathering ip addresses as evidence in court is considered entrapment!

    Any legal system should be able to pick up on this…

  • Lgccd209 -Will

    These people are scum, and they are fighting a losing battle. few victories here, few there, but in the end… The information will always flow!

  • anon

    And what of the stupid argument that file-sharing is illegal?

    Shouldn’t they be getting sued for uploading copyright works as well even if they have a temp license. I doubt that license has a provision for online sharing and if it does, negates any lawsuits.

    It’s like a cop selling child porn for entrapping pedos. Sure you can catch the bad guys but it still against the law to even possess child porn.

  • kottonface

    I can’t believe they are allowed to get away with this kind of stuff. It’s horrible what they do to people.

  • kiwishare

    I was their best customer but thanks to TF i’ve seen the LIGHT!.I don’t buy anything anymore because at the end of the day the MAFIAA(COCK SMOKERS) have made it clear this is a fight to the death.No one is going to tell me my rights have now become a “PRIVILAGE”.

    In N.Z they have started getting publicity for collecting from stores,cafes etc for playing music in customers earshot and it’s going down like a cold cup of sick with the majority so it could help our cause.

  • Gordon Freeman

    Can’t blame them for running a business now. They would be idiots if they DIDN’T go for maximum profit, even if they are doing it at the cost of our beloved community, there’s ways to get around and avoid that situation, plus I can always appreciate good business plans.

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  • Sue away, douchebag!

    I wouldn’t give this a$$hat penny one.

  • ha ha ha

    it’s so funny to hear all of you little babies crying.

    “waaa waaa waaa, somebody wants to do mean stuff to us just because we want things without paying for them…it’s just not fair”

  • .neo.styles|nvDX

    Since when is wanting people to pay for things extracting money from them?

  • diarRIAA

    Maybe they should send out untraceable coupons for DVD’s, Blueray and music CD’s to suspected pirates.

    Everyone knows (and the RIAA/MPAA refuses to believe it) that pirates actually spend a lot more money on media when something is actually worth buying.

    They should also just lower the prices of media to make it more affordable a lot more people would buy them. I know if Blueray disks were $15-20 per movie I’d probably start buying them. DVD’s should be $5-10 and CD’s should be $5.00 each.

    I downloaded District 9 and I liked it so much that I was excited enough to buy it when it comes out on Blueray disk when it becomes available. So then I got a nice little e-mail from my ISP saying that my IP address may have been used for a copyright violation. Maybe they should have sent me a coupon instead so I would for sure buy it when it’s released.

    Instead I’ll probably just download the Blueray rip thanks to their pathetic tactics.

    F*CK you MPAA/RIAA. You’ll never get a dime out of me until you stop treating potential customers like criminals and start lowering your prices. It’s because of your N@ZI tactics that turn people off from buying from you, and this is why people get p*ssed off enough to want to pirate for the rest of their lives, and urges so many others to do so.

    The MPAA/RIAA and their tactics are the real reason why piracy exists. They are the creators of their own problems.

  • Anonymous

    I think people are confused about the true of some technologies.

    Facts:

    - VPN’s don’t protect your identity, they protect your data against wiretapping because of the encryption, but if you connect to any server or client they will know how to find you unless you are using TOR or some other anonymous network.

    - PeerGuradian is stupid as blacklists that countries try to implement and the reasons are the same, you can’t know if the IP’s blocked are bad or good so you always will have false positives and false negatives, although it does give a layer of protection but by itself it is useless.

    If you really want to be protected use an anonymous encrypted solution, there are many out there, encryption only solutions like VPN’s are useless, blacklists by themselves are useless, but those technologies combined with anonymous solutions are effective, so please when you talk about VPN’s you also have to talk about anonymous networks.

    - Retroshare.
    - StealthNet.
    Tor(Tor is not good for bittorrent, but not because it is slow is because you will be transformed into a leecher as you cannot identify your computer to share data with others and that means you will not be sending your stats to trackers and other clients)
    bitblinder.
    - GNUNet

    Oneswarn it is not anonymous you can still be located inside the swarn using the P2P part. Doubt? go look at their FAQ and see if I’m joking.

    And like others already said, every time you buy something from the MAFIAA you are fueling their lawyers. A happy sharing to everyone.

  • Anonymous

    By the way proxies also don’t protect your identity, many proxies are compelled by law to keep records and they know who and when someone connected to it, the same goes to webproxies those are good solutions to get around IP enforcers like Hulu, FearNet and others but are not for securing anonymity.

  • PIRATE

    HAHAHAHA THIS ARTICLE IS HILARIOUS if anyone wants to sue me or try and sue me go right ahead i download hundreds of tv shows and movies every week and have not bought a legitiment dvd in years… so come and get me bi**hes cause you cant touch me

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  • DRhrdware

    I have no money can’t get blood out of a turnip. So sue me.

  • Krogoth

    Kinda reminds me when Sheriff Nick Navarro was creating crack from confiscated cocaine in the Sheriff’s office in Broward County Florida for undercovers to use in sting operations. At the end of the day, people realized they were doing a crime to enforce a law.

  • Borderliner

    Interesting approach. And probably the only case where BT leech-clients make sense – use a client that´s not uploading and the a-holes at Digicash can kiss theirprofit goodbye. After all – isn´t *downloading* legal in most countries, only uploading is what is forbidden by law? Hence if one uses a client that is not uploading (and odesn´t make the downloaded file automatically available as Kazaa&friends did) then there´s nothing the copyright protectors can do.

  • not good

    I believe in the USA this is called entrapment, at least it would be if it was the police. I wonder if this would be the same?

  • Bertus

    If I’m correct that way of tracking down pirates is illegal in The Netherlands.
    The police is also not allowed to offer illegal goods like drugs to track down junkies.

  • Bertus

    Addition:
    I must say it’s very scary that these companies are trying to make profit out of filesharing. They are like mercenaries, willing to do everything it takes to get a potential pirate to it’s knees and not following the law themselves.

  • UK Resident

    Am i getting this right? If they have a licence to distribute and they make the dvd or whatever available on the web – surely no illegal download ever takes place. Any claim for damages looks like straight fraud.

  • Ralonto

    Cancerous parasites :-) won’t get a nickle from me

  • Death

    DIE!

  • James Holdger

    @ 51:

    Yeah, like the MAFIAA and these guys are doing:

    “Waa, waa, waa, we want more money for our ridiculous crap, we will buy rights to distribute them and then entrap people and ask them to pay us…”

    This is totally illegal. Please tell me what’s their entrapment website, I want to download a lot of stuff from there.

    If they have bought the rights to distribute content it’s not illegal to download it. Secondarily, if I upload and share the content which I got from them, there’s nothing they can do about it, hey that’s not what GFF are trying to do as well?

    If these people are allowing everybody to download for free, it means that they consider their stuff free, therefore we can also share their stuff for free, lmao!

    Please somebody give me their torrent website!

  • Eleriel

    … hmm…
    if you download from them, and they have the right to distribute the files.. then how is what you’re doing illegal? O_o

    well, i guess it’s the thought that counts.

  • uknowme

    Learn the law, put yourself in a position where you can successfully be co-accused and the MAFIAA’s lawyers won’t be able to touch you, because courts are usually weary of risking punishment of innocents.

    Violent criminals can use this defense successfully, so why not use it for filesharing?

  • Anonymous

    If in your country it is not illegal do it, if it is or you don’t know go anonymous.

    This could be entrapment in some jurisdictions but in other it may be perfectly legal and then again justice obey the money not the public or only listen to the public when they get really angry which is not the case, hardcore thinkers are a minority until the great public feels the pain like in the U.S. that people stop buying music because of the industry infinite windows trying to teach people what they can and cannot do.

    About learning the law, that should be up to some kind soul that knows the law and can explain to others but not just that, law is interpreted and you gotta know how laws are interpreted in the local jurisdictions. If you try to negate copyright in Texas you are out of luck, if you try to reason with chinese courts you will be send to labor camps, in Russia you disappear, in south america you also disappear, in the U.K. you will be thrown in jail and france probably you may end up in jail too.

  • hahaha

    uber pownage

    We are witnessing the end of 1 part of the file sharing community. 3 other parts to go.

    And we will use your own weapons.

  • liquidmonkey

    and another reason (why i will NEVER give another öre (penny) to the music or movie industry) is added to my list.

    thanks for the eye opening article.

    its a shame the music and movie people just don’t get it :(

  • NEWSFLASH

    say no and do what you can to NOT pay

  • Anonymous

    wierd… its a Litago cow stuck up there.. Litago is a norwegian chocolatemilk brand

  • DraGonflY_27z

    “It’s all about how much money can be recouped and then sharing it.”

    Sharing is Caring, huh?

  • JTK

    If they have the rights to distribute the files and you download from them, it’s not even piracy. If that was considered in court, the “pirate” wouldn’t be charged squat.

  • Anonymous

    @79 Aug 31, 2009 at 15:51 by DraGonflY_27z:

    Yep sharing is caring and they care deeply about themselves LoL

  • Sensei Bear

    We will ultimately be commercialised before we’re criminalised..
    Those who can should keep dodging the bullets while picking up our fallen comrades along the way.

    Viva La Resistance!

  • THE SWARM
  • Sensei Bear

    Here’s a worrying thought though:
    How long before file sharing is considered to be a direct attack on the respective economy? Might not be long before p2p falls under the umbrella of domestic/overseas terrorism. Wheres my toothbrush.. Guantanamo here I come!

  • Think about it

    @ 59 Aug 31, 2009 at 11:45 by .neo.styles|nvDX

    And what is it that these people want you to pay for? Their legal fees that wouldn’t exist if not for their own actions? The industry is constantly extracting money from the artists including the dead ones. Maybe you should bother to get your facts straight before formulating opinions.

  • lverona

    to 22: keep in mind that your cheerfulness might be spoiled if the court simply says – you are all guilty. And that can happen.

    86: the only way to battle that is to open as much torrent sites as possible and involve as much people into downloading as possible.

  • x

    anyone knows the IP adresses of these bitches so I can block them with my PeerGuardian?

  • TheUpSideDownHangingUpSideDownTroll

    Pfff and they say pirates are bad for business.

  • mattias

    what a shameless bunch…

  • DraGonflY_27z

    @83 Aug 31, 2009 at 16:32 by Anonymous
    Yeah! And suddenly it’s very very important, isn’t it? ;)

  • Anonymous

    @92 Aug 31, 2009 at 21:18 by DraGonflY_27z:

    What is important?
    Real corporate pirates sharing their loot?

    Not that much, those guys will have a tough time trying to get people when they move to darknets so it is really not a problem at all. But it will be difficult to share profits from lawsuits, unless people start suing without the burden of proof.

    The only thing missing is a client that is easy to install, configure and use as the ones that exist today are not easy to do so just yet.

  • Paah

    What do we learn from this? Only download from trusted sharers.

  • Anonymous

    If they lease a distribute to store license for a movie, upload it to a P2P net, or put it on an FTP server, or what ever, to trap people who download it, wouldn’t they essentially give that copy of that movie away for free?

    Considering the alternative that they do. Lease a distribute to store license for what ever movie, and start downloading it from a zillion P2P uploaders, and assuming, for keeping stuff a bit more simple, the uploaders didn’t legally obtain the copy, wouldn’t all the nasty pirates in those swarms actually own legal bits and pieces of those copies?

    I guess, of course, they could sue for all the supposedly illegal bits and pieces.

  • .neo.styles|nvDX

    And what is it that these people want you to pay for? Their legal fees that wouldn’t exist if not for their own actions? The industry is constantly extracting money from the artists including the dead ones. Maybe you should bother to get your facts straight before formulating opinions.

    The movies/games/music that you download.

    Calling the RIAA the MAFIAA is almost funny. People only hate them because they want people to pay for their things and not just lazilly sit in front of their computer and steal everything off the internet.

  • DraGonflY_27z

    @93 Aug 31, 2009 at 22:51 by Anonymous:

    No, I meant it’s important to them now that it’s about taking money for themselves.

  • against copyright-abuser

    i’m just wondering how their “system” works. digiprotect has licenses to distribute movies, games (etc.), THEY submint them to tpb (for example), collect all the peers ip-adresses and then sue the people behind the ip-adresses?!

    How on earth should downloading that file be illegal? the submiter of that torrent had the rights to distribute that file … so it’s not a crime for ppl to download that file!

    it is so insane what business-models grew over the recent years … it’s disgusting to make profit by exploiting other people!

    i thought you sue someone because he/she caused you damage… WRONG … Today you sue someone to screw his life and make profit… SHAME ON THE PEOPLE WORKING FOR DIGIPROTECT, MAFIAA and all the other copyright-abuser

  • Dc

    In these replys I’ve heard btguard, darknet, protowall, torrentkit.com, entertane.com, anonymous encrypted solutions like retroshare or stealthnet , gnunet, fearnet, hulu , oneswarn , and isthidden.com. Now that’s ino overload .. If you mention. Service
    give us the full URL please and fully explain what they do , I use tor when searching got torrents see torproject.org and I use peerguardian from phoenixlabs.org to block 1Billion 319million ip addresses so what more do I need ? Which of the services mentioned in these comments do you think i
    should also use ? And where do I get them from? Thanks

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  • me

    anti piracy making profit from piracy. This is a disgrace.

  • X

    This isn’t entrapment. If they are getting the distribution rights to the content, then the distribution is authorized, and not infringing. The end.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t distibute the material on p2p if you don’t want people to download it. Dumb-f*cks

  • josh

    @80,
    There was a competition to make your own litago cow design and TPB had one on there.

    @74,
    It’s a really good point thrown in here. Either they are doing something illegal or we are just getting free legal copies of media.

  • Anonymous

    People only hate them because they want people to pay for their things and not just lazilly sit in front of their computer and steal everything off the internet.

    Wrong, people hate them because they try to impose a model that nobody wants plain and simple.

    Digital is not physical and if you want and analogue the closest is TV and Radio do people pay for those?

  • Biervat

    1 Aug 31, 2009 at 03:39 by Amareus

    Disgusting, utterly disgusting. I am ashamed of the world I live in.

    Thank you, that was my exact though aswel.

    I understand if one sees an opertunity to make money but its obvious that the harder you scheme and the more you are able to grab within the grey of the law it doesnt matter but if you share there is no flow of money nothing to be made so thats not a good thing.

    how is this even legal, a random person with no interest for artists or copyright but uses these tools to grab money for himself good BUT people sharing it without profit is bad.

    this planet has gone completly bonkers.

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  • TerribleTony

    Surely if they have the rights to distribute, and they distribute it using bittorrent or whatever, then don’t those files become legitimate downloads? I can’t see how they are ever going to make money from this (other than through scare tactics).

  • Ninja

    Disgusting. Unfortunately people fall for those bastards…

    Being informed is being blessed, spread this article throughout the world so people will stop paying and they’ll go bankrupt.

    Bastards. You are all too low to be called human.

  • t. rex

    http://www.healthesmoke.webatu.com/

    A pox on this company as well as on the RIAA for their shameful tactics.May they all suffer a painful and ignominious death.

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  • Anon

    I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: if they prefer people pay the 10 EUR a month to VPNs instead of to an all-access “culture” flatrate, then that’s their own idiotic choice and loss of revenue.

    People will not stop using the internet for data and information sharing, ever. And trying to lever the moral high ground of “protecting the creative and artists” kind of gets screwed by the readily apparent real TRUTH behind it in things like this.

  • Me

    Stop drawing incorrect conclusions!

    He said nothing about putting the files on P2P networks. He clearly said that they acquire the rights to sell the content in STORES, not P2P.

    What this company does is to act as a copyright-protecting PROXY. Instead of having Universal, EMI, etc. monitoring and chasing down each infringement, this company licenses the rights to the more popular works, tracks illegal downloads, and takes infringers to court. Because they have acquired the license for the work in question, they have the legal right to sue, and once the case is over, they distribute the monies accordingly.

    There is nothing whatsoever about honey-pots.

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  • Peep

    I just wish everything could be like THe book HOST except for the aliens then we wouldn’t have to worry about greed. And could get everything we needed or wanted and if no one was lazy then we could all basically work for it by helping each other and no one would get in trouble but hummm THis isn’t a perfect world so down with the money grubbers.

  • PsycKick_RuhYn

    this is fraud, pure and simple…

    if they have the rights to distribute and they place it as a bait to sue after it’s just that, FRAUD…

    I feel sorry for the persons who have imcompetent lawyers to defend them and can’t pull them out of this…

    I think i’m going to start downloading again from P2P so they sue me and in the end they’ll get sued… and pay me for emtrapment and fraud!

  • Dave

    #5, #14, and a few others are on the right track. It’s NOT entrapment, however. Entrapment would be compelling an individual to commit an illegal act. Because the entity that owns the rights is also doing the distributing, there is no unlawful act in the transaction. The unlawful act is in bringing suit against law-abiding individuals.

  • omg

    We like to call those people here the tie pirate …. the one that make the law useful for them to make “legal” money …..

    that’s what you get from living in a world of capitalism

    its the whole system that should be reviewed not just the file sharing …

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