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Why The Copyright Industry Isn’t a Legitimate Stakeholder in Copyright

When the copyright monopoly and its future development is discussed, parties called “stakeholders” are frequently invited to discuss its wording and principles. Yet, current lawmakers have forgotten the reason the monopoly exists in the first place.

All through the history of copyright, its motivation has been very clear. In the United States Constitution, it is worded “to promote the progress of science and the useful arts”. But the purpose of the monopoly is to maximize the available culture. Nothing more and nothing less.

Some people, and corporations in particular, claim that the purpose of the copyright monopoly is for a certain profession to make money. That was never the case, and frankly, the idea is revolting to any democracy and functioning market. Bricklayers don’t have laws guaranteeing they make money, marketers don’t, plumbers don’t, and nobody else does, either.

However, the means of achieving the maximization of the available culture has been to give some creators a monopoly on the opportunity — not the right, but the opportunity — to make money off of a creative work. This has been the means to maximize culture for the public at large, and never the end in itself.

This also means that the only legitimate stakeholder in copyright legislation is the public. The monopoly is indeed a balance, but not the “balance” between corporate profits and human rights that the copyright industry likes to paint and pretend. In fact, the copyright industry is not part of the balance at all.

The copyright monopoly legislation is a balance between the public’s interest of having access to culture, and the same public’s interest of having new culture created.

That’s it. Those are the two values that go into determining the wording of the copyright monopoly.

The copyright industry always demands to be regarded as a stakeholder in this monopoly. But to give them that status would be to royally confuse the means of the copyright monopoly with its end.

If they were a stakeholder, they would never agree to anything that went against their interests. But the copyright industry is not a stakeholder. They are merely a beneficiary of the copyright monopoly. Just because you benefit from something, you don’t get to affect its future.

Actually, it goes even further: particularly if you benefit from something, you don’t get to affect its future.

Let’s take an analogy. Blackwater Security benefits from United States foreign policy. Does that mean that Blackwater is a stakeholder in the US foreign policy, and should get a seat at the drafting table? Of course it doesn’t. The notion would be horrifying, with quite predictable outcomes. Yet, we accept this horrendous construction in the case of the copyright monopoly, with just the outcomes predicted.

Using a similar analogy from Europe, there are many regiment towns that would disappear if the regiment was closed. That doesn’t mean that town get to influence the national defense policy. The issue that some thousands of people would be unemployed in the case of closing the regiment would have to be solved by job market policy — but not by giving the regiment town a seat when drafting the national defense policy, and for all intents and purposes, give them a veto against killing their own current jobs.

Imagine if Blackwater Security had a veto against ending a particular war. Next, imagine if the copyright industry had a veto of giving the public more access to public culture.

So in the same way, it’s totally insane to give the copyright industry the same kind of veto against reductions in legislation that benefit them.

The copyright industry is not a legitimate stakeholder in the legislation of the copyright monopoly.

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Rick Falkvinge is a regular columnist on TorrentFreak, sharing his thoughts every other week. He is the founder of the Swedish Pirate Party, a whisky aficionado, and a low-altitude motorcycle pilot. His blog at http://falkvinge.net focuses on information policy.

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  • Ajdfsahj

    First!

    • Alrock

      So What!!!!
      If you don’t have anything intelligent to say then don’t bother posting…
      Nobody is impressed… In fact they probs feel sorry for you since you are obviously a poor sad individual with nothing to do & an empty life.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

        nah, the sad with an empty life is me, this has to be something worse..

      • Ugly American

        “If you don’t have anything intelligent to say then don’t bother posting…”

        Jack Murdock is posting as “Ajdfsahj?” Interesting…

      • Ugly American

        “If you don’t have anything intelligent to say then don’t bother posting…”

        Jack Murdock is posting as “Ajdfsahj?” Interesting…

  • Anonymous

    I think the point is sound, but nobody cares what I think. Or what the public thinks. It’s only what money thinks that matters now.

    Anyway, “the copyright industry” would deny that they *are* the copyright industry, or that there is really such a thing at all.

    You’d have to broaden your critique to exclude artists/creators of culture as stakeholders for it to overcome that position — and then nobody would accept that “artists aren’t legitimate stakeholders in copyright.”

    F*cked by money, we are.

  • http://profiles.google.com/danielzazula Daniel Zazula

    I wish this guy was candidate for president in my country

  • Anonymous

    Yeah but what can we do? Accept torrent the living daylight out of them… If they become the law, torrenting becomes civil disobedience.

  • Bbadr

    “” You’d have to broaden your critique to exclude artists/creators of culture as stakeholders for it to overcome that position — and then nobody would accept that “artists aren’t legitimate stakeholders in copyright.” “”

    True. The actual problem lies in the fact that a lot of artists have signed away their rights to corporations, who are acting as a single entity in protecting “their” copyrights.

    Basically copyright should be changed to a system where the actual physical creator is the sole copyright owner (for life). Companies can only sell “copies” of his original creation. Never the original itself.
    Any product sold based on his idea, the creator gets paid for it. And for the first number of years he gets a say if his creations can be used or not.
    After the creator’s death the copyright ends.
    At no time should this right be transferable.

    That is the actual problem of the current system.
    Walt Disney or his artists should have owned the copyright. Never the Walt Disney Corp, that with other corporations has been extending copyright to 70-100 years after the death of the creator.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      Just as an aside, Johanna Blakley made a great statement in regards to industries without copyright and those that rely on it:

      http://www.ted.com/talks/johanna_blakley_lessons_from_fashion_s_free_culture.html

      It’s near the end, but the rest of the discussion is great as well.

      • Shannon

        good speech !!

      • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

        Now have it bookmarked. Thanks :)

    • Anonymous

      I am quite certain that this comment rates as one of the dumbest things I have ever read in my life. Intellectual property IS property. It’s value is based on demand. I should be able to will my property to my heirs or sell it to whomever I like.

      This is what I see… I see a bunch of thieves trying to justify their thievery by coming up with stupid excuses as to why they should be able to steal other people’s work.

      How many of you make your living from ideas? Not many of you, I am assured.

      • Fredrika

        > “Intellectual property IS property.

        Actually, No. IP can only exist trough an intrusion into property. There are no similarites between property and IP, there are only differences. IP is in no way property, or intended to mimic property. This is the first thing one learns when you study intellectual property on the most basic level.

        The monopoly within IP intrudes into other people’s property, and forbids them to do things they can do with their physical property, that they own down to the smallest atom.

        > “This is what I see… I see a bunch of thieves trying to justify their thievery by coming up with stupid excuses

        Then you need to look again, because your seeing is factually incorrect. Society works the other way around, it’s not the people who should have to come up with excuses why they don’t want their physical property taken away from them, by IP.

        It’s the legislators, and IP-holders, who should justify why creators should be privileged with a monopoly that intrudes into people’s physical property, that takes away their right to do with it as they choose. All burden of proof lies upon them. Not the filesharer’s.

        When the legislator’s fail, which they have with the monopoly within copyright, and the parts of it that regulate non-profit copying, no one will obey such illegitimate legislation.

        Therefore it’s completely legitimate to fileshare as much as you want.

        > “as to why they should be able to steal other people’s work.

        There’s not “theft” involved in copying, only voluntary creation of new copies between filesharer’s.

        > “Anyone that isn’t a mouth breather should realize that bricklayers work under contracts that ensure that they get paid for their work.

        Now you are confusing work that in advance has been contracted and ordered between an employer and an employee, with voluntary production of a product without any guarantees that the product will be sold and generate any profit.

        Creators that take a risk and voluntary create products, have the possibility to try and sell their products. But if they fail to materialize sales through a working and sought after business idea, then they have no right to get paid for their voluntary creation.

        • Anonymous

          …and what do you do for a living? I am a software developer. Copy my stuff and share it with other people and watch me own your house.

        • Fredrika

          > “…and what do you do for a living?

          How is that relevant? I’m not discussing myself, you or individuals? I’m discussing copyright? Please try to keep your eye on the actual topic.

          > “I am a software developer.”

          Then you really should have a higher knowledge about what copyright actually is, than what you seem to have..

          > “Copy my stuff and trade it to other people and watch me own your house.”

          Why should the fact that people might not find your monopoly, and it’s intrusion into theirs property right, to be legitimate, mean that you own their physical property?

        • Anonymous

          It’s relevant because you propose that sharing my work with others just because you bought a single copy is legal and moral. In reality, what you propose is theft of my property. You didn’t create it… I did.

          Yes… if you steal my work by sharing it illegally with other I should certainly have the right to sue you to recoup my loss.

        • Fredrika

          > “It’s relevant because you propose that sharing my work with others just because you bought a single copy is legal and moral.”

          Then you have completely misunderstood, i have not in any way argued regarding what is legal or morally acceptable.

          > “In reality, what you propose is theft of my property.”

          No, it is not. We are discussing copyright and intellectual property. An intrusion into the monopoly within copyright, by not accepting it’s intrusion into one’s own property is not “theft”. Please read a dictionary or the book of the law, and you’ll find this to be a fact, in reality.

          > “You didn’t create it… I did.”

          Let’s for argues sake say that IP is property, although it in reality factually isn’t so. To whom does ownership of property fall? The person who assembles the product, or the owner of the parts the product is made of? Logic dictates that therefore the fact that you assembled it, would have no relevance whatsoever, if IP was property.

          > “if you steal my work by sharing it illegally with other”

          Well, one doesn’t “steal” anything, when one performs an intrusion into a monopoly, but ok, you don’t seem to be able to accept that indisputable fact about copyright and IP.

          > “I should certainly have the right to sue you to recoup my loss.”

          That is a statement that could be argued for, that you maybe should be privileged with that right, to sue someone in civil court, if they perform an intrusion into your monopoly, but that wasn’t what you previously proposed, now was it?

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

          “It’s relevant because you propose that sharing my work with others just because you bought a single copy is legal and moral. ”

          Adobe did just that and let piracy slide away. Pretty soon you had other benefits such as a “lock in” effect which effectively kept people using your products over competitors. Yes, people share. Keep your eye on the ball. If you are focused on what I will term as micromonetizing (ie someone’s download is a lost sale) then you’re not finding ways to keep your software relevant and keep people supporting you and your software.

          “Yes… if you steal my work by sharing it illegally with other I should certainly have the right to sue you to recoup my loss.”

          You can try to take blood from a turnip but notice exactly what is happening with all of the mass infringement lawsuits. These people aren’t paying the outrageous fees within copyright, and the people who are suing aren’t making more products. Face it, you’re becoming worse than a troll for what amounts to a perceived loss in market value.

          “For the record, I am also a musician with many friends in the industry. You filesharing jerks don’t discriminate between indie releases and corporate releases… you just work to screw over artists in the name of saving a few dollars. You are cheap crooks.”

          And you’re not looking at this in the correct manner. Those filesharers didn’t kill the CD industry. They didn’t kill your ability to capitalize on how to use the new networks that have sprung up. The filesharers didn’t kill your ability to allow people to connect with you on UStream, Youtube, live.fm, Pandora, and the various other ways that music is now shared. The filesharers didn’t tell you how to expand your business, merely that they’ll distribute it to people who enjoy your music at a cheaper price than going through a gateway such as the RIAA. Congratulations. Now you get to figure out how to use that market potential to your advantage by making up price points that work for you and them. Now you get to charge more for concerts if need be. Now you get to set up a tour that allows you to Tweet your location that the fans would love to see you in the most. There’s where the money is. YOU need to go find it, rather than complaining that people are spending less on CD bundles, and more for singles that those subjective fans actually LIKE.

          “I already had a business fail due to rampant piracy of my work.”

          BS, and my last paragraph explains why.

          “. I despise you people because you sit there and justify your theft with no real concern for those you are stealing from… ”

          Making a business that works despite the piracy is your choice, not ours.

          The Humble Indie Bundle has made a LOT of money on their bundles. They complained about the piracy the first time. They are now on their third try.

          Minecraft has become a great game that makes $100,000 a day through sheer word of mouth. Wired has their articles print online as well as through a book format. I read Ars Technica for FREE.

          I play games on Kongregate. I have a PSP I love to play. I watch movies such as RiP Manifesto, Ip Man, and Lazy Teen Superheroes. I don’t have money to pay for every last DVD and Blu Ray on the market, so I make choices on what to watch and what I buy. Your piracy tirade does nothing to explain why I should support you. It just shows that you need to work at your own business to find people that will. It wasn’t supposed to be easy. But the tools are right there for you to use. Garageband, Soundcloud… Sky’s the limit. Not piracy.

          “in the scheme of things you do much more real damage to the artist or the sole proprietor software developers and other people who earn their living from IP as I do.”

          No, people make choices on who they support. Why do people still support Adobe if they can find it free on TPB? Why do people pay money to watch a series such as Pioneer One through Bittorrent when it’s only on their third episode? Why do people like the mini movies on Youtube, or even a free movie such as Sindel along with the movies through Netflix? I bet if you stop trying to fight the piracy and find better ways to improve your business through the models I’ve listed, it will work much better for you.

        • Anonymous

          His business failed “because of rampant piracy.” CITATION NEEDED!

          Most likely, your business failed because you are incompetent, couldn’t judge your market, and over-estimated the value you were contributing.

          Your business failed because you failed, failure-boy.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          If you want to keep your software as personal property, don’t hand it over. It’s that simple.

          Any information disseminated to other parties will spread. The more useful or beneficial it is, the faster it will spread.

          If you are indeed a software developer then you should by now already be aware of that very basic and fundamental law of information technology. Production of information may have value according to market principles. A copy of that information in itself will have 0.

          The only way you change that paradigm is by implementation of total information control – the holy grail of every oppressive leftist or fascist regime that ever existed. Since such information control cannot be achievable in a free society, or even in most dictatorships as long as there is a medium of mas communication, what you are really arguing is that the internet and free communication has to go in order to protect your personal business model.

          You can argue semantics all you like but the fact is that in this case, to examplify, you are trying to run software(Intellectual Property Rights) on completely incompatible hardware(The Human Race). Which in the end makes you merely look like a pointy-haired boss in a Dilbert strip.

        • Ninja

          Actually, if your work was copied and used for commercial reasons that’s when copyright should strike hard for you. But you are too narrow minded to understand or accept that. If I use it for non-commercial purposes then I’ll give you my money if it’s worth supporting you for future versions.

          And yet again you are spilling the x downloads = x lost sales logic that fails so hard.

        • Momo

          I’m a software developer too, and you don’t represent me. The internet and the opportunities it opened up have been a boon for me and many others I’ve had the pleasure of collaborating with. Don’t throw the title of my profession around to make the “think-of-the-artists” argument, because it devalues countless successes of other devs and basically drives me up the wall.

          Of all the intellectual workers out there, we’re probably the least negatively affected by copyright infringement. Why? Because most of us don’t cling to pathetic beliefs like bits and bytes being property. We’ve been adapting: the future is in services, $1 apps, consulting, custom software and open source, not the locked-down, over-priced pieces of ’95.

          Intellectual “property” is a monopoly, granted so in law and defined as such in economics. Arguing that it is property exhibits a complete ignorance of the business side of today’s software development, invites megacorporations and corrupt governments to take our rights away to ‘fight piracy’, and is generally a recipe for disaster.

          Which leads me to the following:

          Your business failed? Boo hoo. How convenient to blame it on ‘piracy’ instead of your shitty business model, or shitty product, or the shitty economy, or just shitty luck. I’ve known a couple of people like you. Both of them old-timers, inflexible, narrow-minded, virtually stuck in the past and obnoxious to boot. Learn to look forward, not backward.

          That’s all I have to say to you.

        • Anonymous

          Do you run your own software company or do you work for someone else? I think it’s a valid question because there is a difference. I have run my own business for more than a decade… you can call me an “old timer” if you want. You can also sit there behind your keyboard and make judgments about my products and business model that you don’t know anything about.

          I changed my business model because of piracy. I no longer provide support and tools for webmasters – which was my primary business before pirates figured out how to hack zend encoded files and provide my software to everyone who could use p2p software or IRC.

          The funny thing about file sharing enthusiasts is their concern that they will get caught. That very notion indicates that you know what you do is illegal. All your rants about copyright law and intellectual property are for nothing. You will never be able to win this argument. You are absolutely correct when you say this is about money.

        • Emile23

          Sir, I respect you for participating in this debate.
          You know it was once ‘illegal’ and considered trespassing by the law to fly a plane over someone’s property? It when to court and all and then the laws were changed to accomodate this new technology that was beneficial for society. Now it’s about time the copyright laws get changed and adapted to the digital era, we have to stand up for it together bro.
          If one’s just stop looking at what’s illegal or not to make its jugement, he probably don’t think very much. Let’s not be one of those people who stayed home during the revolution in Egypt this winter.

        • Ninja

          Actually, I’d love to see MAFIAA try me. I’d throw freakloads of original goods at their face along with the ‘pirate’ files ;)

        • Flyinglotus

          As a software developer (I am also one), you should be aware of the advantages of open source projects … where they explicit give away their “intellectual property” of the code …

        • Flyinglotus

          As a software developer (I am also one), you should be aware of the advantages of open source projects … where they explicit give away their “intellectual property” of the code …

        • Anonymous

          …and what do you do for a living? I am a software developer. Copy my stuff and share it with other people and watch me own your house.

        • Guest

          well said!!!!!!!!!!

        • Guest

          well said!!!!!!!!!!

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        “It’s value is based on demand.”

        And you just failed Economy 101. Value of anything is determined by supply and demand.

        As soon as there is no scarcity of supply, the value drops. If the cost of manufacture for a copy becomes close to 0 then so does the value. That’s basic market economy.

        End of story.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

    this is why you shouldn’t let humans be in charge of anything, not even anything made by humans should be in charge of anything, it’s corrupt, close to all of it is…. let me tell you all what I think:
    humans only have one goal in living, to corrupt things.
    they corrupt the planet, they even corrupt their own ideas.

    let’s look at democracy; everyone votes on everything, leaders are all against that, they wanna lead, so they corrupt it and say, you’ll vote on who can vote for all of you.. then they make you vote between only those they know will take the bribes to vote something else..

    and even communism, which so many hate; really, communism is all about sharing, everyone shares everything, work, resources, information etc. no leader is possible here, unless you corrupt it and make it so there is one leader, and everyone else has to share with him. sadly, it goes 50/50, for each individual, so he has taken half of what everyone had, totaling at very much more than any other.

    these are just political examples of how humans corrupt things, if you wanna look at what else, just take a look around you an ask yourself, where in nature was this found?
    or check around for polluted water that has become toxic as a result. the human infection is everywhere, their corruption and destruction..

    personally, I’d love to see nearly all humans wiped of the planet, and have their traces removed. there’re way too many of them, and they’re too stupid to be allowed to exist.

    • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

      This is why a Republic is the best form of governing.

      There will always be stupid people in this world worth eliminating, but your cynicism tells me that you haven’t found anyone in your life worth living for.

      • Karl Marx

        How is government for the corporations, by the corporations, better than government for the people, by the people?

        The interenet has revolutionised the world. Economics, communications, and entertainment have all seen massive changes. Politics is next. Direct democracy is inevitable. You’re participating in it now without even realising it.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          My comment had nothing to do with corporations.

          And ‘direct’ democracy doesn’t make any sense. Is there governance by indirect democracy? If you’re giving someone a vote but that vote doesn’t matter, then that’s totalitarianism.

          I do agree that the internet will change politics, and has – but I don’t think it’s going in the direction you’d prefer it to. The internet has helped the Republican Party in America by allowing an outlet for information (in America, all information is run by a largely Left-driven media that will not run stories showing Liberal ideals in a bad light).

          Information given to the People will result in smaller government (the People will decide what’s best, not the government), which means that government-centric/ controlling forms of government such as Marxism, Socialism, Communism, and Totalitarianism will melt away under the light of truth, intelligence, and personal responsibility.

        • Karl Marx

          My comment about corporations is referring to the fact that corporations “lobby” the government in the US under a republic. The corporations are paying the government to govern in their favour.

          You say,

          “Information given to the People will result in smaller government (the People will decide what’s best, not the government), which means that government-centric/ controlling forms of government such as Marxism, Socialism, Communism, and Totalitarianism will melt away under the light of truth, intelligence, and personal responsibility.”

          This is full of contradictions. First of all, I’ll point out that “the people will decide what’s best not the government” is direct democracy. It’s the people who come up with the initial ideas, it’s the people who debate and refine those ideas, and it’s the people who vote on those ideas. Every citizen is a politicain of equal political power. You still need civil servants to implement those ideas, but they are simply administators that have no more political power than anyone else.

          Secondly, I’ll also point out that according to Marx, communism begins with direct democracy. He made this perfectly clear in a letter to Bakunin:

          Bakunin: “There are about forty million Germans. Are all forty million going to be members of the government?”

          Marx: “Certainly, because the thing starts with the self-government of the commune.”

          If every citizen is a member of the governmnet with equal poiltical power, then there is nothing to differentiate the “State” from the general public, and it’s the same as abolishing the “State”. To get rid of the “State”, you must populate it fully.

          Communism is the polar opposite of Totalitarianism.

          If you have any self respect you will look into those terms, as someone has obviously been filling your head full of nonsense as to what they mean. A good place to start would be to actually read the Communist Manifesto.

          If you believe that the people should decide, then you are for direct democracy, and that my friend, is Marx’s “dictatorship of the proletariat”. You’re a god damned commie bastard. Welcome to the club.

        • Ninja

          Actually, all laws should be voted. The problem is, how to put millions to vote for every single law needed? IT’d be interesting to see such a system where everyone decides on laws.

          Not feasible though. We know the ‘majority’ can easily screw up themselves and the minorities in the process and vice-versa given the proper bureaucracy (see Bush winning with less than 50% of the votes).

          It’s a very complex issue if you ask me. I’d say that when cities and countries went beyond the point where ppl knew each other even if by name the size became a big issue to the political systems.

        • Anon

          That size is the reason we use a representative democracy. You are correct that all laws should be voted on, but the problem with this is that the vast majority of people do not have either the time, inclination, knowledge or means to vote on all of the issues affecting a country, or even affecting a county or city. This is why we use representatives.

        • Friend of the People

          The problem with communism is that it unjustly compels men to support each other. Generosity may be a virtue, but it is immoral to force it on people. We can demonstrate this with a classic objectivist argument. Say that you are a brilliant man who invents many products that make life easier for everyone around you. Say that I am a shiftless and lazy fool whose only goal is to make it through life on the minimum of effort. Is it just that your work subsidizes my laziness? Is it just if your work subsidizes the laziness of hundreds? Do you not deserve some reward for your work? The most productive members of society should be rewarded, and then be allowed to use their wealth in any way they want. Hopefully they will choose to use it to aid the less fortunate, but forcing them to do so is immoral.

          I agree with you that communism is meant to be a government of the people, with no leaders. The only problem is that it is impossible to have no leaders. Communism works only on the assumption that after all of the current leaders are thrown out, no one else will rise to power above his fellow man. There will always be leaders. In communism, a leader will simply proclaim himself as “the voice of the masses” and claim his right to rule based on that. The communist manifesto does not give directions about what to do in this situation. I’d advise reading Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged” in order to gain an appreciation for the true failing of a communist system.

          Finally, I apologize for the rushed tone here. Got to get to work in a few minutes. Have a good day.

        • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

          “Let’s use an objectivist argument” he says.
          Aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahah ….

          What a loser! Dummies like you are more akin to Turkey’s voting for Thanksgivig/Xmas. Or a lemming.

          You sir, are part of the problem, not the solution – and you need your Weltanstuung tweaked.

        • QuadSlacker

          “Liberal Media” is a myth. You think NBC/Comcast is liberal? ABC/Disney? Fox?
          Huffington Post?

          I challenge you to give one single honest example of a “liberal bias” in American media, when this is the same media that has bloviated the Iraq War, 9/11, tax cuts for the wealthy, civil rights, never mind the copyright issues. CNN is centrist, at best. Even MSNBC is a dog-and-pony show, if you think they are “leftist”, try reading… anything. Really, reading is good for your brain.

          These are the same kind of people that will entertain the notion that Obama is a socialist. Please. Try googling “Bernie Sanders”, and give me a reply.

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Damn you Bugs!!!
      I was about to click the ‘like’ button on your fairly decent rant until you’re ending paragraph – that’s a step too far and I award you a tremendous FAIL :(

  • Gae

    So what this is saying is that the copyright industry is overstepping the boundaries of its role, believing that it has the right to decide our laws to protect its own interests?

    • http://crashsuit.blogspot.com crashsuit

      If there were a tldr statement at the end of the article, it would be this one. Nice summation.

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  • Momo

    Great article, as always.

    Rick, do you think this line of argumentation could work on real politicians? American politicians in general, and pretty much anyone working in the EU Commission seem far too conservative and right-wing to take this seriously.

    I mean, lobbyists’ arguments probably go like “Enforce copyrights, save millions of Jobs”, “Enforce copyrights, get billions in Taxes”, “Enforce copyrights, protect trillions in intellectual Property”.

    How could politicians think of the people when they are told the sky will fall down if they do?

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      lol, politicians in the USA aren’t REAL politicians (cf. non-commercial filesharers aren’t REAL pirates).

      These asswipes are bought by the corporations and merely mimic whatever their corporate paymasters require of them. Like the good little puppets they truly are.

      Representation of “The People” does NOT equate to the wants and needs of your Corporate Paymasters.

  • Anonymous

    Oh wow, OK you have to admit that makes a lot of sense.
    real-privacy.eu.tc

  • DingleBerry King

    It is that time again brothers and sisters. Let’s take it out to the streets again and show them exactly that. We the people are the copyright monopoly stakeholders. Might as well remind them.

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  • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

    This same argument rings true about labor unions. I was waiting for this article to make the jump, but never did.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      Odd talking to myself but that is something I would say. :p

      I believe the labor unions right now are only considered for their own self preservation. Still, that doesn’t mean that people don’t “unionize” themselves around a job.

      http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070509/055646.shtml

      If anything, it happens when someone is threatened by the growing power of technology.

      • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

        Good little article, thanks :)

      • Ninja

        It’s happening everywhere Jay 2. The unions have long stopped caring for the well being of their affiliated (or not) workers as it is their primary purpose. They care about themselves. Eventually most human societies based on money become an agglomerate of little feuds worried about their own existence. See Animal Farm.

      • http://myindigolives.wordpress.com Ellie K

        Thanks Jay! That is one of the only articles I’ve read about unions that specifically focuses on “professional” workers, not skilled tradesmen. It was written in 2007, but it was still good.

        I’m not sure how it relates to copyright though. But I did notice a TechDirt article with today’s date, about the copyright industry, and it had a link back here… minor irony, no foul

        I’m guessing the commonality between copyright-industry-as-stakeholder and labor-union-as-self-serving-entity is the “principal agent” problem? Moral hazard?

        Conflict of interest is the first thought that came to my mind after reading the post here, by RF PP. He uses DoD government contracting (though Blackwater Security is better described as a “war profiteer” IMHO) and U.S. foreign policy to make his point. It is the same as the one I see in my little world, too.

        All copyright protection is not bad. The point is that the definition of stakeholders needs to be better, and those who benefit (in the form of monetary profit) shouldn’t be making the laws!

        As others said, the original authors of peer-reviewed journal articles, for example, are often no longer the actual copyright holders of the work. Any discussion amongst copyright stakeholders needs to be inclusive of the original content creator AND the public. And other interested parties, for example, curators, like those from the Library of Congress’ Digital Preservation project. Their published findings (last fall, probably in the archives here) called for reassessment of copyright laws, as those laws are already having a very negative impact on preservation of our cultural heritage.

  • coffeeright

    So true, I agree with this post so much. This analogy is great, it’s definitely better than the analogy used in that article about how money is like informaiton, lol.

  • Chimel31

    Pfft, Rick is so smart and right every time it’s not even funny anymore! ^-^
    Another mind-blowing article, Rick!

    Actually the analogy with Blackwater Security is probably a bad one: They and all other lobbies are intricately linked to the government, so they do influence public policy, but I understand the point you’re making.

    I agree with @Bbadr, the artists should retain total ownership of the commercialization of their music. At least for a limited duration, like 20 years, after which the songs fall into public domain, which does not prevent artists from reissueing albums or new compilations of old songs for a fee, or setting up a site where you can make a small donation to an artist whose music you like, probably a great way for the artist to meet his audience.

    Contracts with labels should be changed into contracts where labels are paid a fixed sum for each of their services, promotion, recording, production, distribution, organizing concerts, etc. Once these fees are paid back through CD or concert sales, the percentage that was used for these fees now go straight to the artists pockets. The artist can decide to keep the money for themselves, or reduce the cost of the CDs or iTunes by as much, whatever. The important thing is that this money does not go to the labels for perpetuity. Once their costs, including risk and margin are paid back, they need to scout new artists for more contracts, not live on a few cash cows.

    I think it is mostly the immorality of the current business model that leaves many with no other solution but to “pirate” the music they like. Purchasing CDs or the ultra-expensive iTunes does not benefit to the artists, they mostly serve to pay the labels’ directors and crew, and all the intermediate that each take a part of the pie. I do NOT want to participate into such an indecent racket, the thieves are not the pirates here. Personally, I buy only CDs, always used because the cost of the new ones is prohibitive, and I know this doesn’t benefit the artist in any way, but neither does buying new. I buy new CDs or online MP3s only when I can’t find a cheaper alternative, but you can’t expect people who like music to pay such a premium. I own over 3,000 CDs, and that’s only a little part of the music I like, or the music I would like if I had the possibility to try it out for free first.

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  • Anonymous

    Rick is correct that it is all about the creation of culture and entertainment.

    The money aspect cannot be ignored though. I would not say creations are made to make money, but to make public their creation for public enjoyment, but they would want their investment back with extra to cover their time and maybe to create more. So not getting money would stop many creations.

    The main problem then comes in between public rights and their desire for profit. The more they want absolute control and maximum profit the more public rights get abused.

    This is why copyright has always been about FAIR return and NOT absolute return. We are now losing this fairness and many other rights as well.

  • Anonymous

    Rick is correct that it is all about the creation of culture and entertainment.

    The money aspect cannot be ignored though. I would not say creations are made to make money, but to make public their creation for public enjoyment, but they would want their investment back with extra to cover their time and maybe to create more. So not getting money would stop many creations.

    The main problem then comes in between public rights and their desire for profit. The more they want absolute control and maximum profit the more public rights get abused.

    This is why copyright has always been about FAIR return and NOT absolute return. We are now losing this fairness and many other rights as well.

    • Ah-ha-ha-ha

      “This is why copyright has always been about FAIR return and NOT absolute return.”

      Whilst I undeniably agree 100% with this statement, I am sat here trying to work out how a fair system would be put into place. If say, a five person band work for a year to make an album which they own the copyright for, what would be a fair renumeration for them?

      Would you take say, the average wage of their country? So, for the UK, around £25,000 – £30,000 each, totalling just over £0.1m.

      Or do you put a certain ceiling on copyright related earnings, say £500,000 – £1m per “work” – be it book, CD, film or whatever.

      After either system, the product would be free from copyright, meaning that p2p sharing on the album is now legal; that any company can print physical copies to be sold for whatever profit they can get, resulting in very low costs.

      In this case then who will go and purchase the copies at ‘full’ price to help renumerate the creative forces behind the project? Will most people just wait and wait for the prices to fall once the amount has been reached? Or will all of the copies just be priced lower?

      The third, and most obvious option would be to lower the length of copyright duration, which would obviously be alright for things which hit big straight away, but possibly cause problems for semi popular/indie artists/films, who rely on a trickling income to let them make their art for few but dedicated fans.

      Another way, would be to have something akin to the BBC licence fee, but worldwide and have all media as free, with artists rewarded by payment from this fund once they have sales over a certain amount. This approach is most unlikely and littered with too many issues to go into.

      (As a side point – what do artists get as a percentage of their work compared to the manufacturers of the physical item?)

      I do believe its important that artists and creatives get reward and recognition for their work, but when you hear about the excesses, corruption and blatant disrespect for their audiences from all of the media production companies, one can feel rather justified in just plunking things out of the cyber-air for free.

      —————————————————————————————————-

      Hopefully more and more institutions such as Vodo will help more and more artists to find paid recognition which rewards good work and not plastic over hyped, bandwagonesque rubbish.

      How many people who read these pages and who believe in sharing contribute towards independent and not for gross profit media? Who here is just a lazy ass pirate and who believes that sharing is caring?

      Showing the established companies that donation led media works and works well, to a high quality, be it home recorded CDs, free ebooks or donation led films/TV, would at least be a shot across their bows.

      • Ninja

        Assuming a value that should be given to the artist for a work is one of the mistakes of the current system. Much like assuming 1 download equals a lost sale.

        Let’s see your example – the 5-man/girl/’co-ed’ group works for an year with the following possible outcomes:
        1- They put a lot of effort and the work is a masterpiece (or simply good)
        2- They put a lot of effort but it’s not good (it happens)
        3- They pretend to work and take an year to release a project that could be done in half of the time but it’s actually good
        4- They pretend to work and do some lousy wannabe work
        5- They don’t work at all, they smoke weed and *snap* the album comes out after an year of marijuana and is concluded in a month.
        6- They don’t work at all, some 3rd party MAFIAA.. Ahem, label, promotes them and makes some ‘fast food’ music
        7- They don’t work at all but the said 3rd party actually does some good songs
        8- ???
        9- ????? and so on

        Can you see the problem here?

        What if we have a Flattr… Ahem, system that allows you to donate directly to the group and that his donation would be split in a fair manner through the ppl that actually participated in the creative process (be it the group or the crew behind) and the frontend (in case of the group promoted by the studios)? Can you see that this proposal actually excludes examples 2, 4 and 6? It will also help the artists that are more active and focused in keeping in touch with their fan base (and getting new fans).

        And it doesn’t exclude the labels as they can still help the artists and the donations would still be evenly distribute. And the non label artists can still allow the labels to handle the physical goods and merchandise for a fair return (copyright would be from the CREATOR meaning not from the label but from the group along with any composer behind it).

        I’m just typing random thoughts so it might not be too coherent but I think you got the point. The issue here is: non-commercial copies (ie: torrenting) should be free and legal. Affectionate fans will still buy merchandise and it’s up for the artist to be nice to the fan base. Obviously known arrogant jerks might get their arsses kicked by the public in this system ;)

        Anyway, food for thought heh

  • Foff

    Why not go one step further may be the proposition is not based on fact. What evidence is there that copyright has any effect on culture? An original Rembrandt is much more valuable then a copy. Even without any copyright at all an original would be preferred over a fake.

    It has always been assumed without question that copyright of some sort is necessary. But what if that supposition is wrong. Without copyright there would be competition in all creative works. Those who worked the hardest would be those that succeeded. You could have laws to protect outright stealing. May be we should eliminate all copyright laws then see what is necessary to afford some protection and what is not. Our current laws are not workable copyright has swung so far that they are not respected or really accepted as law. I download without any guilt at all because I don’t agree with and accept the law. Kind of like old or ancient laws we know ignore like spitting on the sidewalk or adultery laws in most western countries.

    • JamesP

      Your analogy is flawed. An original Rembrandt is a work in itself. One person may own it. We don’t look at music, film, theater or other forms of expression protected by intellectual property rights the same way.

      Who cares who has the master recording of a song…We just want a reproduction o fhte song. It isn’t the tangible tape reel but the music that we’re interested in.

      Copyright, when properly balanced does promote innovation and creation.

      The fact that you download music for free, guilt free is good and well for you. In fact, some artists don’t even mind (nay, encourage) this behavior. By saying that you download guilt free your really saying that you don’t mind copying and making use of someones hard labored art without compensating them. Far be it from me, but wouldn’t you want to support artists you like?

      I agree that a lot of music is over priced. I am not here trying to defend those schmucks at Sony/BMG (far from it). I’m simply saying that eliminating copyright protection for artists is not a measured response to the problem. The answer to radicalism is seldom more radicalism.

      • Rick Falkvinge (PP)

        Copyright, when properly balanced does promote innovation and creation.

        This has been repeated very often, but it’s just faith. There’s nothing to back up the statement, we’re just supposed to take it on pure faith.

        I think it’s time to question this. I don’t think it’s true.

        • Ninja

          I believe that copyright is needed to some extent. And that they should be balanced yes. Problem is, they don’t protect the creator they protect the holder. In my opinion they are needed to prevent commercial exploitation of the copyrighted works and that’s exactly what they promote today: exploitation.

          I do question the claims that file sharing is costing whatever (jobs/millions) to the entertainment industry. Laws are being made over that assumption.

  • JamesP

    I’m afraid you’re incorrect. Though your right that copyright law is meant to strike a balance, it would be incorrect not to consider the creators capacity for gain. One of the main reasons intellectual property rights were created was to encourage creators to create and inventors to invent. Of course the implication was the advancement and perpetuation of culture. That being said, it would be false to ignore the goal of compensating creators.

    Current copyright law is certainly having the effect of stifling innovation in many cases. I’m Canadian and our copyright law is unbalanced as well. In this country, our government (former government, we’re in an election) came up with some novel ideas to promote balanced copyright. One of those is the “User Generated Content” Provision or “YouTube exception” which allows creators to make use of existing copyrighted content to make remix or mash-up (so long as they are non-commercial in nature…and a few other criteria…)

    In Brazil, copyright holders can be counter sued for abuse of their right.

    You draw some unfair comparisons that don’t accurately portray the situation though I do agree with your message in that copyright in the US (and Canada) is broken and it has to be fixed in a manner that considers creators, consumers AND rights holders.

    • Ninja

      He’s not incorrect. He’s questioning what if copyrights didn’t exist. We don’t know. He thinks – THINKS – it’s not true. There’s no correct or incorrect in THINKING it is true or not.

      I agree with you. Creators should be compensated for commercial use of their works. The general public should just be able to donate or flattr a certain project and buy merchandise (which includes physical copies). But for that to be done properly copyright needs to be rebuilt.

  • Meimportaunculistas

    Could explain the copyright thing again, but in normal English? I didn’t get anything of what you said, in fact I am more confused than before reading the post.

    • JamesP

      …read a book…

    • http://natanael.posterous.com/ Natanael L

      The idea is that authors and musicians and all those people should have an incentive to write new books and make new music.

      The reasoning behind creating copyright is that music and books are easy to duplicate, so it would be hard for authors and musicians to earn any money if they could not control duplication, so they would not have any incentive to write new books or create new music since most of them could not afford to do so.

      This has been proven to be blatantly wrong many times over and over again, just take a look at sites like Jamendo.com and the Creative Commons licensed photos on Flickr and all the blogs (of which many has been released as books!) on the web.

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  • Whatever

    @”Imagine if Blackwater Security had a veto against ending a particular war”

    Reminds me of Jericho (one and a half season series).

  • Whatever

    @Rick Falkvinge
    While you explained it quite clearly here, i am wondering about something.

    When you were at the EU, did you explain this to the politicians ?

    And if you did, did they not listen ? Did they choose not to listen ? Were any of them obviously waiting for a bag of gold from the MAFIAA lobby that has been prepared for them ?

    Do you have any names and behaviours of some politicians ?
    (it’s not like it needs to be a secret unless you’re planning to write a book like many other ex-politicians who then have no problem in exposing their peers.)

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  • Brewedyum

    what if the spear, creation of fire, and the wheel had copyrights being held on them ? If you had the ability to recreate any of these things and even (…shudder to think) capitalize personally (in trade-able assets or status) off of the sale of these items and concepts. would you do so? and if you did so, would you think that it is more immoral for a person to copy your ideas and do the same within his community or for you to have discontent with him for doing so?

    • http://natanael.posterous.com/ Natanael L

      FYI, copyright != patents (that means “not the same as”). But yeah, the point is still valid.

  • Flyinglotus

    I think, most people arent aware of the word “copy”-”right” in terms of sharing.
    the copyright as I understand it always is, that the author/creator should be able to defend its creation towards someone else who claims, that he “created” this work.
    It has nothing to do with the controlling of spreading “copies”!
    So, nobody would ever think of taking the work of a creator (for example music), changes the creator name to his own (changing ID3 tags, filenames) and spreading the work under his own name. This is something, the copyright is meant for in my personal view.
    But having the control over (digital) copies, who has access to them and who is allowed to spread them does not come with the means of a “copyright” in my opinion.
    Am I wrong or is this difference so unknown?

    • Ninja

      It’s broader than that. Copyright is there to prevent commercial use of the creators works. But that’s what it should be in the first place, without the excesses. But it stretches much further than that in the end.

    • 0000

      It’s a bit broader than that. Copyright exists to protect the artist’s right to control the distribution of his work. The basis for it is the notion that the artist has the right to not only say that he created the work, but to also control the distribution of his work. The essence of copyright is that no one should be able to distribute an artist’s work in any form without his approval.

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