A Glimpse at The Pirate Bay’s Uncertain Future
Written by Ernesto on July 01, 2009After Global Gaming Factory X announced that it intends to buy The Pirate Bay for $7.8 million, the CEO of the company bombarded the press with his revolutionary plans for the site. By paying both the copyright holders and file-sharers the company aims to reshape the digital media landscape. We have our doubts.
The sale of the largest BitTorrent tracker in the world to Global Gaming Factory X (GGF) blasted like a shockwave though the BitTorrent community yesterday. For years The Pirate Bay has been a synonym for free file-sharing, something that many fear will change in the near future.
However, thus far GGF’s plans for the site and tracker are rather vague and uncertain. First of all there is a huge divide between what the Pirate Bay co-founders think will happen to the site and what GGF is telling the public.
TorrentFreak has spoken with Pirate Bay co-founders Peter Sunde and Fredrik Neij who both think that the Pirate Bay will stay pretty much like it is now for the time being. The only difference in the short term, according to their knowledge, is that the site will link to torrents hosted on a third party domain tracked by a third party tracker.
Both the torrent hosting service and the tracker they are referring to are still in development, the co-founders said. They are not aware of any concrete plans to turn the site into a legal venture. In an attempt to find out we asked GGF to elaborate on their future plans and the response we got was remarkable.
GFF told us that most of their recent comments to the press were nothing more than “corporate bla bla.”
So let’s take a look at some of the bla bla that surfaced in the past day, to see if it makes any sense at all. Here are some of the key proposals.
1. The new Pirate Bay will put a halt to illegal downloading.
2. The Pirate Bay will compensate rights holders who publish their content on the site
3. The Pirate Bay will pay users for sharing files.
This sounds very impressive but, to put it mildly, it raises a few concerns.
It’s basically the same as saying that iTunes would pay its users to share music. When GGF has to pay both file-sharers and content providers they will undoubtedly have to raise huge sums money from a third party. So what is going to bring in this cash?
Ads of course! GGF is predicting to sell ads like no other website in the world has ever done. They told BusinessWeek that they hope to make as much as $672 million a year from advertisements.
GGF is also planning to raise money from ISPs. Theoretically ISPs might be willing to contribute because they could save on bandwidth costs if most of the files are served locally or directly from caching services, but it wont be enough. Also, they assume that The Pirate Bay will generate a significant portion of Internet traffic once they go ‘legal’, which is doubtful.
An even more significant problem is keeping the current users on board and cutting deals with content providers, all at the same time. This is an almost impossible task since copyright holders will only join if there is no illegal content on the site, and users will only stay if there is enough free and unrestricted DRM-free content available.
This means that GGF has to cut deals with pretty much every large music and movie studio from the start to have even a chance of survival. Even if they manage that, they also have to collect millions of dollars to compensate both the users and copyright holders.
Nevertheless, only hours after they announced they would acquire The Pirate Bay, GGF claimed that the entertainment companies they’ve spoken to are already interested in teaming up with the site they fought long and hard in court. Perhaps the Big Four are more open-minded than we expected – maybe GGF will draw on the business relationship it built with Vivendi in 2007?
No further explanation is needed to see that the bright future GGF is selling will never happen. Their plans seem to be completely delusional, at least in this world, and it’s even a mystery where they will get the $7.8 million funding to actually buy the site. If they ever will….
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212 Responses
And TPB is done!
eh?
Theoretically ISPs might be willing to contribute because they could save on bandwidth costs if most of the files are served locally or directly from caching services
ISP’s costs are mainly made up of the last mile to the consumers home. Data being held on their network wont save them any money!
And now The Pirate Bay will evolve into something new. Just another round of evolution for efficient file sharing.
TPB is dead. Its over.
since when did corporations dictate what is illegal and what people do under the law? Oh no wait… yes, Swedish Law was changed by the MPAA, The Swedish Court was rigged by the MPAA, MPAA buy shares in GGF, GGF pays the boys off, GGF gets the name, MPAA closes a competitor to its revenue stream and the Swedish Gov follows ‘law’…. and we all happily skip along paying MPAA et al for downloads and if we dont the courts step in or something like that….?
This whole situation stinks worse than dead whale blubber…
$672 million (56*12), not $780 million (65*12). Still delusional.
Pirate Bay Founders have already moved on to the realm of streaming media. The video bay is going to give youtube a run for it’s money!
i have zero confidence in GFF’s ability to close the deal unless there is a MAFIAA backer hiding in the wings who is willing to pay to finish TPB once and for all. their business model is just plain stupid and it remarkably pushes all the MAFIAA buttons perfectly. highly suspicious
is it all an elaborate sham to demonstrate the site equity did not belong to the convicted individuals and dodge losing the site to the prosecution when they press for the fines to be paid? in return GFF insiders made a small fortune with a nice insider deal. lots more media attention. lots more distraction, smoke and mirrors. buying time. brazil
and now TPB crew can simply do a mininova with an off-site tracker and claim to be legal and in compliance with the court. next battle is filtering content and that will take 2 years to come to court. it is already too late to close the door, they are convicted and the door is remains open, suing for filtering is rediculous
i can see clearly now the clouds have gone, i can see all obstacles in my way. TPB crew are having a real fun. wtg dudes
more power to TPB the best soap 2009
http://www.h33t.com/
I still want to see what brokep and the rest have in store for this third-party tracker and tracking site.
I have a feeling that we can’t take this at face value yet. The TPB domain and site as it exists today is almost certainly dead – but I’m not sure we can rule out something better coming out of this.
Goodnight Sweet Prince.
Ernesto, great article bro! You’ve articulated very well and I am very pleased with your insightful analysis of TPB’s future. Keep up the great work!
It seems no one really knows what will happen to TPB in the future. Everyone is speculating without any concrete plan for now.
Let’s see what and how this thing will evolve.. This kind of distribution may be the future.. Just like @4 said.
I will not abandon the ship, not now. I want to see how it goes..
Well.. at least success of TPB forced great improvements to the legal services.
Anyways, back to the time of limited access of culture =/ Although there are lots of trackers left.. but TPB held some rare pieces due to it’s huge userbase
Guys, this is what we’ve all been dreaming about!! Lets support them in this new distribution model!
Maybe the industry is ready to test this.
The worst thing I can see possibly happening is I use one of many other sites to get torrents… Well I’m not worried. I’ll just wait and see.
If there is to be something better, you can guarantee GGFX won’t be behind it. Like h33t says, best soap of 2009
Where will they raise the money?
See previous article.
Actually, if this does end up working, I have no complaints. Just Adblock.
If it’s dead, then at least TPB’s guys have millions of dollars to invest in something better – whereas TPB was created using almost no money at all.
Imagine what they could do with those millions – well, they’re actually going into a foundation to fund open source projects, but still :)
The userbase will just move elsewhere. Maybe mininova, maybe Demonoid. Who knows.
Man, how depressing. RIP TPB. It’s OVER.
This will leave a hole in the market for the other tracker operators, so it’s not a big deal I suppose.
Good thing we have DHT so we really don’t need trackers so much anymore. The only thing you really need is a place that indexes the .torrents or magnet links.
I’ve found the DHT implementation in the new Tixati client (tixati.com) to work pretty good so far, although I think they’re still in beta. Either way, once all the developers of all the major clients get their DHT shit working right, the loss of TPB trackers won’t be too big a problem.
i posted this in the other thread but with all the replies it no doubt got lost in the mist of posts
this is my theory i would like people to respond to this and let me know if you feel the same and come to the same conclusion of if you have a different view
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All of a sudden this new company springs up from nowhere with a site that looks like it’s been put up within seconds hell even a more simple design than wordpress and thats saying something notice no contact email address only a phone number?
IF the company is legit here is whats going to happen mark my words on this
1. the Service they will allow you to download but only their content they’ve been paid to be allowed to share but the downloads will be DRM’d Thats right Digitial Restricted (we all been here before) so now your forced to adire to their licence this makes sense of his speech about letting content owners take back control of the content, yep DRM, the client to do the downloading is a closed source proprietary format which will also require DRM licencing restrictions now if you think you can download a movie and watch it with any media player you people are in for a massive shock it will be DRM locked to a proprietary play of their choosing.
Now you all keep talking about Videobay this is where you people have your heads firm in the sand
Peerlism the new p2p tech they are using is for STREAMING Videos’ check it out for yourself
dont you see the piratebay guys are not doing videobay this global company is,
doesn’t it all fit think about it licenced content taking back control allowing to transfer files
A company called wurldmedia did this exact same thing 2 years ago remember them? paid people to share files again that was the same type of business model that tanked due to the DRM.
The new Piratebay is the videobay using peerlism which is designed for streaming content, their website explains about taking the stress of 90% of isp’s and low and behold so does this Global Gaming company.
you watch the new Subscription channel open with this new DRM sharing scheme and DRM video streaming scheme
You heard it here first guys.
EPIC FAIL coming..
Or the userbase will start TPB itself : The Peoples Bay !
We’re with 3,7 million. Even a tiny fraction can organize a TPB itself.
See http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=123185431010 for more information
I keep reading retarded comments everywhere. People are like, “Who Cares, MiniNova FTW!!”
ThePirateBay was an indexer and a tracker. MiniNova is only an indexer. That means, when TPB’s trackers stop working in a few months. Half the torrents on MiniNova will die. Also, MiniNova complies with DMCA letters and torrent complaints. That means they regularly delete torrents that Companies complain about. ThePirateBay never once deleted a single torrent. I hate that they sold out too, but to say MiniNova is just as good, or better, is retarded. It has a prettier interface and is easier to navigate, but people obviously don’t understand the full concept.
Real public trackers like Demonoid will see a huge increase in traffic. Hopefully it’s not crippling. Also, don’t say Demonoid is private. People give out Demonoid invites like they are free burger coupons. My grandma could get invited there. They have open signups like 3-4 times a month too. It’s pretty much Public. Best thing is to go to private trackers only. Oh, and don’t fucking say UseNet is safe. UseNet Provider just got sued… http://bit.ly/a2HfI
I keep reading retarded comments everywhere. People are like, “Who Cares, MiniNova FTW!!”
ThePirateBay was an indexer and a tracker. MiniNova is only an indexer. That means, when TPB’s trackers stop working in a few months. Half the torrents on MiniNova will die. Also, MiniNova complies with DMCA letters and torrent complaints. That means they regularly delete torrents that Companies complain about. ThePirateBay never once deleted a single torrent. I hate that they sold out too, but to say MiniNova is just as good, or better, is retarded. It has a prettier interface and is easier to navigate, but people obviously don’t understand the full concept.
Real public trackers like Demonoid will see a huge increase in traffic. Hopefully it’s not crippling. Also, don’t say Demonoid is private. People give out Demonoid invites like they are free burger coupons. My grandma could get invited there. They have open signups like 3-4 times a month too. It’s pretty much Public. Best thing is to go to private trackers only. Oh, and don’t f\/cking say UseNet is safe. UseNet Provider just got sued… http://bit.ly/a2HfI
These plans are bullshit. Never ever is this going to work. They are crazy and wasting their money. Copyright holders want a lot more then 780 million which is lot more they are going to get from advertisements.
Pirate Bay was a great site and they fought hard but in the end they had to get out of the sinking ship. Well done. There will be new sites just like in the past.
They are making every mistake that other p2p comnanies have made in the past .
Using a superdistribution type model encumbered with DRM to distribute files – Peer Impact,Altnet (Kazaa)
Distributed Cacheing -Sell your p2p bandwidth and diskspace to ISPs -Bittorent Inc ,Chachelogic .
Adware -We all despise this – Kazaa,Morpheus,Grokster ect.
We don’t believe these concepts and models can work because we are not the targeted audience.
Bit Torrent is still very new to most people and the concept of a legal, free, possibly even PAY you- kind of website or service is incredibly ambitious. The tech behind BT is a virtual (literally) goldmine. What was once a currency of lulz, became capitalized upon. The sweet fruit of the internets is growing old and sour, soon it will be sold to us by the spoonful, and wifi signals are broadcasting radio in subway cars for your mp3phonesaw to download.
Money will be made. Lots of money, but don’t think that GGF is going to be the only company trying this.
Think the Torrentcube is a coincidence? The market is there and it’s just getting started. Just about everybody knows a little bit of the lingo, enough of their computer and they have money. This is why no properly run company or corporation would target the free audience with the hope to go large scale.
Also, the internet is rapidly growing out of control, like any new market. There is never enough space, don’t be surprised at server houses popping more and more. Hosting large amounts of data is a lucrative market and is surprisingly cheap to get started.
Don’t bitch guys, capitalize. If you don’t want people taking your money, take theirs instead.
Don’t worry, the internet bubble will pop, and everything will settle down to ISPs hosting their own unique content. The internet will be divided by separate corporations with their own impossibly funded server houses. Internet fortresses to block their own customers from downloading higher quality versions of Jersey Girl(copyright Miramax Inc.), unless they pay for the platinum prescription.
I’m sure some of us will find our own corners of the internet. A friend of a friend who owns a few servers on rack- you know, personal internets.
It’ll happen, and it will be illegal and people will be thrown in jail for trading ancient data-crystal rips of Universal Soldier(copyright by TriStar Pictures) to their companions Liquid cluster-node.
Johnny Mnemonic(Copyright Sony Pictures Home Entertainment), here we come!
thepiratebay.org is nothing more than a domain
*the community is everything*
the filesharing community can switch immediately to thepiratebayII.org or any new domain the crew put up
TPB crew have the torrent db, every one of those torrents have their tracker url and they can change that url at any time and keep the swarms alive
*TPB is NOT dead*
i never thought i would say this, but here goes, h33t says:
“aaarrrggghhh me hearties”
http://www.h33t.com 100% confidence in TPB crew
Maybe its time to move to a private tracker like MovieFOX
http://moviefox.org
oh here we go again, blah blah blah, pirate bay this, pirate bay that, haven’t you milked that story enough already? Let it go dude..
See that’s what I’m saying “It just don’t add up!!!!” TPB are too smart to go running blindly and do something so illogical and stupid.
(reminds me of that Warner Brothers cartoon where the mice, who ate too much cheese and want to end it all, ask the cat to eat them. Shocked, the cat goes to the dog and asks to be clobbered and the dog, confused uses an adding machine and types desperately, rips the adding machine paper and screams the above statement. But I digress:-)
I haven’t touched tpb trackers in years yet I still get releases on 0day. I’m just worried about the strain this will put on other trackers.
Let tpb bur like napster and suprnova before it.
I have been doing this since the commodore 64 days and I am not worried in the slightest.
by Bas
The userbase will just move elsewhere. Maybe mininova, maybe Demonoid. Who knows.
Both of which use Pirate Bay trackers….Whoops….Meltdown…
Does anyone know what’s happening to IPREDator now that TPB has changed hands effectively, I don’t want to sign up to the beta if it’s already a sinking ship, you know?
so where do’es “peerage” the new “bitorrent” fit into this all?
From what I’ve read there are three different companies (Processes) involved in the seeding/leeching, all anon.
anyone?
Shocking.
@37 all Anon?
none of it is anon at all, global game factory x is apparently a real company who’s somehow buying the piratebay domain and servers at the same time buying this new DRM p2p client/server tech.
if they can’t even invest 20 bucks on a real website design where are they pulling 10 million out their asses?
come on people the damn thing is all corrupt isn’t it funny 2 days later the major industry gets in touch with them and working out deals
total bullshit it’s the industry who’s behind this bollocks, and they are the ones funding the company penny to a pinch of salt
I poo poo all this…..its all poo..
They aint traitors ….They is Pirates…If they wanna take the piss outa stock price good luck to them…
Anyone with any sense wouldnt have gone there. Its a scam. Buy the stock then watch it plummet…Y’all
RIP Pirate Bay
It had a good run, and I hope it lives on. But it shall not be the Pirate Bay I knew.
Also 672 million from adds? In their dreams. Thankfully I have other options.
@15 this isn’t a new model, its fairly old. Most of the music would be removed and only the allowed content would be seen. Artists are not owners so they cannot put their content up (assuming they are under a record label) which means if the record label doesn’t like the profit, the album disappears.
The damage has already been done.
Even if TPB will not be sold, most of the uploaders and seeders will eventually leave and only the leachers will stay.
Way to go, morons. Even if you guys(TPB owners/crew) bring some good stuff up in the future, you can bet your ass that people will not care for it that much.
This will NEVER work out for Global, I’m predicting they don’t secure funding…
But if they do we should be happy Peter and the rest who are making up for their losses and selling at the top. We need to support them in their future endevors.
So what if they do end up making some money. Think of all the free stuff we’ve gotten.
I’ve gotten thousands and thousands of dollars “worth” of music, movies and apps.
This will not change. I’m downloading right now!
down with tpb once and for all sick and tired of hearing how great tpb is when its no different to any other torrent site the crew of tpb are after money plain and simple which isnt a bad thing shit we all want more money right? these guys just tried to make you think they were great by fighting the big great copyright fight then they lost then they were shown for their true colors now they are giving up to make millions great way to go.
I’m unsure on all this at this point; I have my doubts tho.
If what the GGF say (whoevers behind them?!) is truth, and goes forth as such then great.
It could be a possibility tho; if you think of how many free streaming service there are at tho moment, especailly lastfm who were just brought by CBS, then this could be then next big step.
Time will tell I suppose.
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I smell a back door for the big corporate machine. If you can’t beat them buy them, through a third party.
Torrents for Torentiers.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace.
Jimi Hendrix
the comments of both TPB blog and freak are full of MAFIAA shills dissin TPB crew
*fuktards*
regardless of whether you call yourself a filesharer or a “pirate” you will support Peter and the crew
anyone who says otherwise is a fake
http://www.h33t.com
The future is a DHT 2.0
Usenet.com got sued not “Usenet” lol
Yep, TPB is done.
this is bull shit the pirate bay owners suck..this is my favourite website i can see the death of the pirate bay soon
As of now, my suggestion would be to wait a bit more. Supposely, TPB will be finally sold around August, and since there is pretty much confusion going around now (especially between the TPB Crew and GGFX), nothing can be really taken for fact – not even the actual sale contract.
Don’t get all mad yet, guys, watch the news, maybe it will not even turn out as bad as most of us think…
i totally agree with #42
They are sell outs. Ive stated that before and my thoughts havent changed even if it was a last resort the crew had to do.
alas, however, they didnt expect this kind of a result because the trust factor has been completly destroyed.
do the crew actually think that the video bay will be able to establish the connection that they once had with the userbase..?
that will be interesting to see..but i doubt it after they have done this.
~Z
If the deal goes through then that’s it fro TPB as we know it. It’ll just be another headache like Napster. There’s no way a business model can be inroduced that will accomodate the users and the thieves.
Sorry! Typos?
Yepp, it’s over for TPB. Seem to me it’s a classic If You Cant Beat Them, Eat Them from you know who. All this pay here pay there bs is just smoke in you eyes. But IF GGF would try the stunt mentioned, I for one will sit down with popcorn and a coke, having a good time watching this epic fail burn to the ground.
I can see them taking the money, sticking it to the corps, and creating thepirate(anchorage, arm, basin, bayou, bight, cove, estuary, gulf, harbor, inlet, lagoon, mouth, sound, strait, fjord, firth, loch, narrows).org
And to house the torrents… they use the money to build a satellite! The MPAA cant fight us if we’re in space!!!!
despite EVERTHING that all of you have said,good, bad, and ugly bout this whole thing going 1 thing IS for certain……….
WE the bitorrent users are going to be the losers in the end…
enough said……
RIP TPB
Time to hoist anchor and set sail for a new port mates!
To be honest its time for new tech to come along and change things once again. TPB is only the beginning. The law is making it harder to operate torrent sites, and now the big sites will see this as a good way to get a nice profit from selling their sites.
Game Over for TPB? More like Game Over for all torrent sites
May you rest in peace TPB, you shall be missed
Nice Article. I’m starting to think this is a joke. If not, what the hell is TPB thinking. Hmmm
What other domains of TPB’s will be included with the deal? thevideobay.org ??? baywords.com ?? slopsbox.com ? pastebay.com ? bayimg.com ? etc..
Anybody know what domains are assets under TPB’s holding company and therefore part of the deal?
F*ck you and the ship you rode in on!
“1. The new Pirate Bay will put a halt to illegal downloading.”
HAHA
“2. The Pirate Bay will compensate rights holders who publish their content on the site”
HAHAHAHAHA
“3. The Pirate Bay will pay users for sharing files.”
What?
They’re going to pay everybody, where are they going to get all that money from?
I have a feeling that this is going to be a big flop.
Now join me in a chorus of “We Want TorrentSpy Back!”
most demonoid torrents do NOT use tpb tracker, and if they do its rarely exclusive. i really dont see this affecting demonoid much at all.
hi there. can someone prove to me where the new technology from GGF-X’s other purchase includes DRM?
see, I keep seeing comments about it, but none of them link to a single mention of DRM. just a comment of compensating content creators.
btw, Viacom is a content distributor, not a content creator. Busboy Productions makes The Daily Show. think about how you would want to compensate a content creator.
I can think of seven or eight ways of doing it that are fully-compatible with not only BT in general, but TPB’s goals as a whole. why am I the only one that can?
if TPB is doing what I think they’re doing, content distributors are going the way of the dodo.
but seriously, someone show me the DRM. cos nobody has.
we all agree to just never go to the TPB site again.
Everybody just remove it from your brain like it never existed.
HAHAHA who do these guys at GGF think they are, OBAMA?? Some kind of magical savior? If they pull it off, GREAT, but really.. wtf are they thinking??
The pirate bay guys need a break, give it to them. They put a long effort in, did some really cool stuff, and deserve SOME respect guys. They aren’t even pocketing the money, it’s going into a foundation to help your sorry crying asses.
Sounds like the end of TPB to me, but like oink, more sites will spring up in its place
h33t: I WANNA BUTTFUCK YOUR FATHER
i want to personally *thank* all the anti-p2p MAFIAA shills spamming the comments with their anti-TPB bullshit
now we filesharers know we got you worried :-D
http://www.h33t.com says people stand with TPB. Captain Peter and the crew are making devilish moves!
Here is my theory on what GGF is going to do. They say they are going to pay file sharers. I think they are going to pay people to upload files to their network…yes, I agree with this. However, they only are going to pay you to upload new files that they haven’t seen before and they will write down the file hash values. Once they get 99 % of all the file hash values, they will put a fucking big ass filtering program on the entire bittorrent network and shut the whole thing down.
how can everyone just give up on tpb crew so easily like that?
Guys, I know what there plans are !! They are going to pay you to turn in other piraters. If you just read the comment I did. They are going to separate the real “piraters” from just file sharers and they are going to pit people against each other by paying file sharers to turn in the actual piraters of the content. Hope that makes sense.
And TPB is done!
And TPB is done!!!!!
@ h33t
I would say you’re speaking for yourself. How can you say “people stand with TPB”, show me where are they? I dont think you’ll find alot of them. If you want I can show you where to find alot of people who are disappointed at what TPB crew did…
They didnt ask “the people” what do they think about venturing in a different direction, they just sold out. I can bet you that the money they’re getting for the servers and domains is piped in by the studio’s and record labels. The reason for that is that they found an formidable opponent then just gave up on him and showered them with money.
I already use mininova and demonoid as backups and alternatives(for certain media). The community will diffuse into these other sites.
Those in charge of TPB have sold out and lost my respect on a personal level.
I thought they were all about liberty and shit, guess they’re just human.
I don’t blame them, most people would take the money and live like kings, but I just thought they were unique in being above that.
Life goes on, everybody just keep seeding.
We need to support TPB more than ever! Wars are tough.. sometimes they call for sacrifices..
We cannot abandon them now..
Even if they do take the 7.8mil and do nothing with it, they still have 7.8mil in court fees that’s hanging over their heads.
Seriously something stinks to high hell..
Only TPB crew would say crazy things like PAY USERS AND ARTISTS and all that money from advertisements..
DUDE I SERIOUSLY THINK WE ARE ALL BEING PUNKED.
This could go either way. It could be a complete failure. Or it could be the start of a genuinely workable compromise between (illegal) free file sharing and (legal) compensated file sharing.
In principle, I got nothing against paying for copyright files, but only at a vastly reduced rate to the gouging mentality the copyright holders currently have. If they think I am going to ever again pay $30 for an electronic copy of a new release CD of a B-grade band, they have rocks in their heads, especially when the band only gets a tiny fraction of that sale price.
I would happily pay a subscription of say $25 a month to be able to legally download any copyright material, (as long as the vast bulk of that money is going to the actual creators of the work, not the copyright industry moguls).
I have never believed that completely free and unrestricted file sharing, and the destruction of the copyright itself, were the final goal. To me the goal was always to force the copyright industry to deal with and adapt to the technological, economic, and social realities of 21st century. If this move from TPB encourages that, fine by me, and their work will not have been in vain.
Bottom line is that the copyright industry has to run a lot leaner, accept a much lower profit margin per unit sale, and start using online distribution properly, including p2p.
We shall see.
One thing is for certain the current situation is not sustainable for both sides of the debate.
when one door closes another opens
i bet the dudes behind TPB will open up another web site, be it themself or help someone else do the same
when the oink music file sharing site went down did all the music off the net magically vanish??
nope
it has been moved around to other sites
same will happen here
stress less folks
lots of the usual FUD talk going on
I guess most of you have been brainwash by peter sunde the piratebay staff if you believe the tech will evolve in this BS. you guys should think more about that facts not the utopia that ggf and peter sunde are saying.
I support the TPB
They plan to get 672$ mil from adds that get blocked by my Adblock plus and Flashblock addons for Firefox. Or do the “revolutionary plans” mean some new method to get the advertisements through ???
its genious. sell thepiratebay domain for 7.8 mill to pay their court charges. and then start up thepiratebay2.. copy + paste.
“oh lookie here, how come all the users we wanted and paid 7.8 mill for, are now going to thepiratebay2?” (says GGF)
What keeps other companies like the MPAA from buying controlling intrest in GGF? They could just do that and close down the Piratebay for good. It wouldn’t be that expensive, since half of the money to buy the Piratebay ends up there anyway.
The domain name is important btw, since all torrents currently out there have the piratebay tracker in them and at most only 5% of all BitTorrent users know how to exchange the tracker for a torrent.
Ridiculous. What TPB wasn’t even illegal until American orginizations like MPAA and RIAA went into Sweden and fucked them over. They went in and fucked up the government and the judicial system.
RIAA – Recording Industry Association of AMERICA
MPAA – Motion Picture Association of AMERICA
Stay the fuck in your country and stop trying to police the world.
It’s ridiculous, artists/famous are millionaires even with torrenting in the world. Greedy bastards still expect more though.
I got a plan. Here is what they are planning on doing. Paying file sharers to turn in the real pirates. In other words, they don’t care about the average file sharer, they want the producers of the pirated content and they are going to pay you to give up the goods on them. They want you to become snitches.
Here is my plan. Everyone use peerguardian/block lists and ban everything related to thepiratebay. Stop using piratebay trackers. Stop going to the site because they are going to use the advertising money to pay the filesharers to give up the piraters so if we suffocate them of money, they won’t have the power to do anything and thus they will die.
to #36, why the fuck would you sign up and give your credit card information to an RIAA website. Why don’t you just drive down to the police station and tell them you’ve been uploading copyrighted movies for years? Seriously, what part of TPB sold to the RIAA don’t you understand. It’s over. Put thepiratebay in your blocklist and let’s move on. That’s the only way.
#43 is a paid propagandist
Yeah man lets support a bunch of fucking sell outs who hand over all the data and servers to the fucking RIAA. Yeah that sounds like a good idea…durr durr durr
#46 is a paid propagandist…dude, you guys are so fucking obvious.
See, your plan is based on your speculations and not actual facts… idiot.
Nobody knows what is actually going on with the site so really, shut the f*ck up until you actually see whats happened.
I can’t believe how disloyal you stupid people are.
The guys at the pirate bay battled it out until the end. They had the option of go to jail and lose everything, or lose the site and be able to continue other projects by selling the site.
Everyone is against them, which makes no sense. You should all be against American organizations which are trying to police the world like the RIAA, and the MPAA.
From this corrupt and unfair trial they were bound to lose the site on way or another. Sweden’s copyright law system is f*cked now that Americans clearly control it so easily.
You all have decided to hate people who took on a 3.8 million dollar fine in a battle for you.
90% of the users have proven themselves to be f*ckwits, and if you decide to “Abandon Ship!” or call out “SELLOUTS!” nobody is going to miss you. So f*ck off.
“TPB is never done”
I listening the anti-TPB comments from the persons who spent enough time on TPB by using it stuff.
What a non-sense we are… TPB has a great contribution in p2p file sharing and it was 100% legal.
We are with TPB crew. It`ll live long ever and forever.
Human nature is so much cruel, can`t see someone becoming good and great. Alaways there is devil-thought which tries to crush the Humanity. But it`ll never ends up…
TPB will keep alive…….
TPB closing is like having a genital herpes, IMHO.
How can they keep the name The Pirate Bay when they aim to stop illegal downloading?
to Pirate means to illegally download…
They should change the name to
THE PURCHASE BAY!
“TPB is never done”
Yes it is true. We are with TPB and its crew. How can we leave it, just remember, we used TPB alot for our advantage. And now the time of its support, We said TPB IS DONE…..
how non-sense we are…
I am listening many anti-TPB comments from those who often used TPB………………
<<<>>>
@ No, the new name should be The Sellout Bay.
wether we or other bodies like it or not file sharing has been going on from the start, copying taped music or from vinal this was file sharing, if you go to the libary and reed a book yes this is file sharing. so the loss of pirate bay as it was will not change history, sharing will continue, so don’t lose heart but continue to do what you yourself beleives to be right, the freedom to share what you wish with whome you wish. remember it’s nice to share.
Youtube costs 250 $millions in bandwidth every month.
And according to what I read about TPB, they could name their streaming service YouLube.
I have never been that of a proTPB, just using their site occasionally, but from now on, any project related to them will be a no go.
And to the stupid ceo who thinks he’ll do a 672 millions revenue out of advertising, ask him if he knows how much napster does. End of story.
I’d really like to see some google trends information on thepiratebay usage.
Unfortunately there is no information yet, if you type in “the pirate bay” and filter at 2009.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=the+pirate+bay&ctab=0&geo=all&date=2009&sort=0
So their business plan is to make money off advertising products in a service where people come to get things they don’t want to pay for?
Holy. Fucking. God.
EPIC FAILING LOL
everyone has seen your childish site…so no need to keep up with the false support bullshit, makes me laugh though.
They don’t even have those 8 mil? Which is small money for the usual player in this field. Pathetic! And fuck their business model… that’s not the way to do it!
I think this is some sort of MAFIAA tactic… buy out TPB for pocket change instead of losing hundreds of millions in court.
But guess again… one dies… 10 will be borne!
as one of your lovely content generators on piratebay, i am fucking pissed to hell since the news. I encode TV shows for thousands of seeders a week.so
to people who want to stick with TPB, you guys are fucking retarded.
this whole idea of paying off the file-sharers has nothing to do with your average leecher or mr.i-seed-to-10:1 . its about content providers like me.
they want to get to the bottom of the chain. they want to find the guy who cracks your games and software everyday.
Believe me, if you guys follow piratebay it wont be long until either they(the coroporate pigs) come after the content providers or us content-providers just leave. I promise you that filesharing WILL stop, because it CAN if you guys follow like sheeps with the traitorous piratebay and expect us to generate the content on TPB in the future.
i’ve been one of many who makes piratebay one of the best trackers on the web. because lets face it, not everyone knows how to generate good pirate-content. Piratebay just organizes and hosts the trackers. The fact that they lost and gave up means that any who organizes lose. Content providers like me need good organizers, and if a giant like TPB falls it wont be long before the other organizers fall too,
for example, i personally have no idea where i will take my content after august 2009. media industry won, killed by pirate bay
fuck you TPB, hope someone has the balls to make another one and promise not to sell out
i expect everyone who’s launching attacks on TPB crew has personally stuck their own necks out a long way to further the cause, yeah? They don’t owe you anything, grow up.
Even more surprising is the number of people who seem to hate the idea of content creators getting any money. Seriously? We keep saying “they need to change their business model”, then someone tries to find a way that everyone benefits and you all pan them.. Be sceptical yeah, I don’t believe it’ll work either, but don’t hate them for trying.
Also it has (really quite sadly) exposed how many people use file-sharing just cause they hate the idea of paying. I always like to think we do it because the MAFIAAs are so greedy and corrupt. But some of you guys sound like you’d never pay for anything. Wow guys, its you that give people such a bad impression of filesharers.
oh tpb, please keep on going, you are our shield. while the attention is on you, i can carry on using decent sites.
the site is still running! kill them!
this is crap
TPB is dead!
@26 “ThePirateBay never once deleted a single torrent. ”
I can prove that the pirate bay has removed torrents. Of course they don’t publicize it, but that’s what online backups are for. When one site removes content, when it is linked to many other sites and the other sites have it but all of a sudden you get something like “can not find ,,” that is what has happened to many files on thepiratebay. :-) but other sites still have the file that was deleted from tpb.
“UseNet Provider just got sued… http://bit.ly/a2HfI”
Yes they got sued because they advertised they were the best way to get pirated material and anonymous. They were asking for it.
64 Jul 02, 2009 at 03:07 by Ovalprocess
Now join me in a chorus of “We Want TorrentSpy Back!”
You have torrentspy back on http://www.furk.net it has a copy of torrentspy torrent files and the torrents
79 Jul 02, 2009 at 05:20 by dude
Seriously something stinks to high hell..
Only TPB crew would say crazy things like PAY USERS AND ARTISTS and all that money from advertisements..
DUDE I SERIOUSLY THINK WE ARE ALL BEING PUNKED.
It sound like that to me 2
81 Jul 02, 2009 at 05:38 by zed
when one door closes another opens
i bet the dudes behind TPB will open up another web site, be it themself or help someone else do the same
yeah its called http://www.sharereactor.com and its been there before tpb even and http://suprnova.org
We’re back!
brokep – 2007-08-20 16:08:42
Suprnova has been down for some years due to some heavy pressure from the copyright lobby. The former owner sloncek donated suprnova to The Pirate Bay – and as you know, we like to kick ass and bow for noone!
We were going to keep this site a secret until we had finished it, but of course it leaked, that’s how internet works. So now that the word is out, we’re releasing it!
Please consider these first weeks/months as a beta test. Since we love all you guys and gals so much we decided to keep it an open beta test. That means, please behave, don’t complaint to much and if you discover any weird bugs or problems, let us know.
Some of you have also already discovered our new forum, Suprbay! Which is a joint forum for both Suprnova and The Pirate Bay. Discuss movies, music, love and whatever with your fellow pirates.
Finally, some words for non-internet loving companies: This is how it works. Whatever you sink, we build back up. Whomever you sue, ten new pirates are recruited. Wherever you go, we are already ahead of you. You are the past and the forgotten, we are the internet and the future.
y’arr!
Fu*k The Cartels!!!!
Wow, most of you people here seem to be SO short sighted and/or narrow minded.
What has happened here is that the TPB guys has sold basically nothing more than a domain name for almost 8 million dollars.
That is a HUGE amount of money! Money that will be put in a foundation and will be spent fucking with the anti-piracy mafia and developing new and better ways to share files and information and protect your privacy.
This is the beginning of a new era. The Pirate Bay v1.0 is dead. Welcome The Pirate Bay v2.0, whatever it’s going to be called.
I would just like to show my support to tpb. keep up the good work and power to us file sharers we will win out in the end as long as we stick together.people power rules and go Pete and the crew keep em guessing you are pissing them off and now they are worried :)
come on people don’t give up show your support the war is just beginning
If the legal alternatives they offer are in any way DRM encumbered, they will undoutedly sink the ship.
The only way legal alternatives will ever have a real chance of competing with piracy is to meet the following conditions, in order of priority:
1. 100% DRM free. This is non-negotiable. I, and many others, will never accept DRM encumbered crap, regardless of any other benefits.
2. The option of high quality HD content (720p or even 1080p with a high bit-rate comparable at the very least to that currently offered by The Scene release groups, or better.) Though, users with bandwidth or storage limitations should be free to choose the lower quality SD versions.
3. No regional restrictions. Restricting certain markets based on country will do nothing to compete with piracy in those regions.
4. Fairly priced. Not necessarily free. I would quite happily pay a reasonable subscription fee (I already pay nearly $30 a month for Usenet, I’d quite happily pay that for legal content)
5. Offered in a timely manner following the initial TV broadcast. Waiting for a show to be broadcast locally in some countries can take on average 6 to 12 months, or more, in some countries. This is unacceptable for internet distribution.
6. The ability to freely re-download purchases. This is a nice-to-have feature offered by some online music retailers. It’s not essential though.
Quote from GGF website (they replaced the old landing page with plain html a la 1995…)
“File sharers’ need faster downloads and better quality” continues Hans Pandeya”
Nonsense; I already get great speeds and have no quality complaints (why should I, it’s free and up to me to find the good rips or warez.)
Isn’t it exactly what Bittorrent Corporation tried to do and failed? Why would the big companies side with a game company to do what the bittorrent creator himself could not?
Say welcome to TPB-TNG!
http://tuxie.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/say-welcome-to-tpb-tng/
well, from now on, it’s gonna be called The Legal Bay. Y’all best get used to that.
At least 100 accounts are removed every hour since the news of The Pirate Bay’s acquisition. The supporters probably never cracked anything. They do not have any responsibility, so they can say “wait & see”. They probably never followed the claims of TPB Team from day to day. But they always have an opinion on everything. All you deserve is SHIT, and you’d get exactly that. If you never cracked anything, but you’d love to help any way, stop supporting TPB.
@3:
I don’t know where you live, and if it is true what you’ve said for the country you’re in, but it’s certainly not true for all places. Where I live local traffic is significantly cheaper than international one.
R.I.P TPB
it’ll slowly die when there’s nothing free.
even if the user database is still there, but with no users ever going there anymore…
yeah…
it’ll die
millions of $$ wasted.
I totally agree with #90!!
F*ckwits, the TPB crew risked it all for you and all you have to say about them is “SELLOUTS!”.
None of you took on jailtime and a 3.8 million dollar fine in the fight for freedom, so why don’t you all just shut the f*ck up.
Blame American organizations who try to police the world for this loss, not the TPB crew.
The TPB guys deserve a fucking break, so i hope they get it.
They did alot more for you than you did for them.
They indeed deserve a break. A Jaw break…
i blame michael jackson !
LOL @ all these f**king n00bs saying,’We’ll stick with you TPB’,'You put your necks on the line for us’….it’s f**cking amazing, who are these retards.
Get REAL or GTFO
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo-ooo-oooooo
I think the new owners never read what happened to Joost.
Joost tried to do the same thing (with p2p in the beginning and all), and even with their connections (Volpi, and Skype founders) and $50 million dollars in funding, several offices all over the world, ad sales team and almost 100 employees they couldn’t sign the content owners that mattered.
Joost just fired a bunch of its staff and the CEO left this week (read techcrunch)
Sorry but it’s not gonna fly, convincing content owners to share and to acquire all that content is almost impossible, content owners have too many stupid rules that date back to the TV days, time windows distributions, exclusive contracts. It’s a very cool idea but it won’t fly in the real world, at least not now.
There has to be a generational change in the MPAA and TV channels for something like this to happen.
In the meantime when it comes to video the big media is building (with a lot of internal conflict due to copyright issues) their own network, HULU, and even with all the backing that it has, the content is lacking compared to a organic (and illegal) catalog.
People will just move to other trackers.
I got the best idea! Since TPB did make a profit and possibly money off of illegal trading, why dont all the uploaders (who are especially minors) have their parents sue the TPB for misleading their children to believe in the pirate party (1) and (2) compensation for working as uploaders because in the end TPB did make a profit!
Just like the lawsuit against AOL in the US for allowing minors to be volunteer hosts and guides :)
Spread the word and sue the TPB!
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/07/pirate_bay_vision/
says that all illegal torrents will be gone within a few weeks..
sad times
The business-model being proposed here seems pretty similar to the one delivering (commercial) TV to everyone. And it’s crazy enough so it might just work. Although I have my doubts, people just don’t seem to be *that* fond of advertisments.
However, I don’t see why they couldn’t just deploy it under another name instead of sacrificing (basically destroying) everything TPB stood for.
This whole ordeal is starting to look more and more like some lame publicity stunt trying to drive up the share price of the companies involved.
By now it should be pretty clear that the users aren’t very pleased with this, after all they are supposedly being sold off like some commodity.
Move to other networks….
it happened to all the best.
King is dead, long live the King!
people wont stop using torrents, but they will stop using TPB.
http://www.epictorrents.com all the way
@45 Jul 02, 2009 at 00:59 by neostyles
Yeah! Said like a TRUE corporate cock sucking little shill.
LMAO @ 31
henry are you now a pirate??? do you have a ship?? are you gonna stand with tpb crew? after all your bullshit about pirates, and calling yourself a pirate now?
oh this is choice indeed. im keeping this screenshot right next to the other ones. LMAO
They bought the whole thing.
Copyright bastards got their veredict and their fine, then they support some lucky creepy entrepreneur, go on boy, buy it. So TPB folks are forced to decide: struggle in courts or taking the money (which they might need to pay the fine).
Everything’s done.They got it. Now they can try to make big money with torrents or let TPB die if they find the legal way more profitable.
For less than 4m$ in cash, they got it. Good deal for the copyright bastards.
Copyright abolition. NOW!!
Well here’s the facts in Clear stone i was right in my theory’s all along again you heard it here first
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There are other changes planned for that user experience, of course, once The Pirate Bay lowers the Jolly Roger and raises the flag of commerce — as early as next month. The free video games, pre-release Hollywood blockbusters and gigabyte-length discographies that currently dominate the site’s most-popular list will be gone, replaced by whatever content the movie, music and software industries deign to sell — yes, sell — on the site they’ve been battling for years.
Global Gaming Factory announced plans Tuesday to purchase The Pirate Bay’s BitTorrent site for $7.8 million. The Pirate Bay’s other projects, including the upcoming streaming-video site TheVideoBay and the iPredator anonymizing service, are not part of the sale, the Bay’s current management said.
But the unfolding exodus from the Bay seems to be an early sign that file sharers aren’t eager for change. “Many people have asked about having their account removed, and we will not force anyone to stay on of course,” the site posted to its blog Tuesday.
Pandeya believes he’ll be able to stay the mutiny once the community — which he describes as the “key asset” in the announced purchase — fully understands what the new Pirate Bay will be offering.
That would be money, for starters. The revamped Bay will be the first BitTorrent site to pay members cold hard cash for seeding the paid content they download — a sweetener that Pandeya said will give the site an edge even over established pay-content outlets.
“If you use iTunes, for instance, their users can’t create any revenue,” he said. “We can create revenue for the file-sharing community…. At the end of the day, the file sharers will make money, or this is not going to work.”
Details, like how much uploaders will be paid for sharing their bandwidth, haven’t been announced. But it would need to be a lot to match the value lost to a community accustomed to getting $60 console games for the cost of a button-click.
It’s also unclear that the content industry will rush to embrace The Pirate Bay, a name as synonymous with piracy as Bill Gates is to Microsoft.
“We don’t know the details, and there are many questions to ask about how this will work in practice,” said John Kennedy, chairman of the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry. The Motion Picture Association of America said the studios “don’t have enough information to comment at this time.”
Those content-producers will come around, said Pandeya. “Hollywood has a community that they can’t reach today. There’s a lot of free file sharing going on, and Hollywood will want to reach them.”
The final plank in Pandeya’s plans involves a new improved version of the BitTorrent protocol under development by Peerialism, another Swedish company Global Gaming Factory purchased Tuesday.
In theory, it works like this: When a Pirate Bay member purchases, for example, an authorized movie from the site, the user will download the film through the customized, “next generation” BitTorrent client.
Instead of that movie arriving piecemeal from other clients all over the world, the new application will favor peers geographically close to the consumer. That would increase the speed of the download, lessen global bandwidth demands and ease ISPs’ exit traffic.
Someone said about please explain where DRM comes into this
1. Authorized Files
2. Giving Content owners Control back
3. Special BT client.
DRM (Digital Rights Management)
Enough said?
They are turning it into a DRM shop
Judge throws book at Usenet.com in RIAA lawsuit.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/07/judge-throws-book-at-usenetcom-in-riaa-lawsuit.ars
The Pirate Bay is not, and never was, illegal under Swedish law, which is all that matters in this case as it’s where TPB is hosted.
It seems that The Pirate Bay is now dead. I’ll just use Mininova or something now.
SELLOUTS!!! I USED to have major respect for these guys, but now they’re pretty much just like any other typical SELLOUT BITCHES! These “guys” always talked a good game about standing up for what they “believed” in / what they were doing with their site & acted all “tough” & relaxed during their court case saying that “NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED THE PIRATE BAY WOULD STAY ONLINE”. I must say that these guys would make some good politicians because TPB is “staying online” BUT not in the way that made it such a well known & “FAMOUS” site, BUT THEY DIDN’T LIE. All they ended up doing was allow ONE FIXED court case overseen by a SELLOUT of a judge that was BOUGHT & PAID FOR by the music “industry & the pro-copyright groups to scare them into becoming a bunch of SCARED HYPOCRITE SELLOUTS that are trying to wash their hands of their site while they lie to all of their users that made ALL OF THEM RICH that the site will stay the same when really it won’t. As far as I’m concerned they’ve sunk to the level of the RIAA! Not just because they sold TPB to a PRO COPYRIGHT COMPANY but because they KEEP LYING about what is going to happen to the site to all of their LOYAL users like we are a bunch of F*CKING MORONS, JUST LIKE THE RIAA/MPAA LIES TO EVERYONE! So enjoy all of your MILLIONS, just don’t forget about all of your LOYAL users that you guys had to SH*T ON & SCREW OVER to get that money & not just your users but all the torrents that are going to die & the other torrent sites & trackers that are going to overload & probably crash because you guys ended up SELLING OUT TO & BECOMING EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE RIAA/MPAA & EVERY OTHER LYING, BULLSH*TTING, HYPOCRITICAL PRO-COPYRIGHT GROUP[S] THAT YOU USED TO FIGHT AGAINST. NOW YOU ALL SHARE A BED! F*CKING SELLOUTS!!!
So did you believe they we’re not running TPB other than for the money ?
Everybody is …
They sold it and i would do the same.
The new pirate bay will be a new Napster … faillure at start …
Hmmm…I wonder if that is why they told everyone not to donate LoL
Money is what moves the world. Pirate bay lost the fight. :(
Has anyone imagined the studios may be behind the negotiation? As many corporates do, they buy the competitor and closes it. Is it possible that the studios are doing this? The money is not too much for them. And they can try to get it back as the pirate bay crew has some fines to pay.
Doesn’t anyone know by now this is all a scam… GGF is a shill of the RIAA and MPAA or however all those letters fit together. The movie industry has bought out the pirate bay for less than it spent on going to trial with them. Took them how long to come up with that one?
it might just be a scam to cach people sharing ilegal content via the traker system
1) The trial is not over – despite this sale the pirate bay guys are still fighting the judgement against them
2) The pirate bay 4 will NOT get any of the money. The money is going to a foundation which they have no control over. TPB itself already changed hands in 2006 and safeguards were put in place to ensure the founders would never profit from it!
3) Since the founders do not own TPB, perhaps they are not responsible for the sale and have instead been desperately looking for a buyer to keep the site going!
4) The pirate bay does not hold info about you such as what you have downloaded or your IP address. The only thing you could be identified by is your email address.
5) There is no evidence that the RIAA or any of the copyright industry have any shares in or influence over GGF.
6) Ipredator / VideoBay etc have NOT been sold
At the moment there is no need to panick, there is no need to have a go at the guys who have run TPB so well and for so long…
If TPB does not live on, there will be something equally as good if not better just around the corner – If it does live on, it may well pave the way for new business models for the copyright industry that will settle the issue of piracy once and for all. Maybe then we can have some sane copyright laws that encourage creativity as the original laws were intended to do!
it may work if by “cutting deals” they mean “blackmailing”
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1832/pirateselloutcopy.jpg
where’s my fucking sealand donation BITCHES. TPBfaggots
too many MAFIAA trolls flooding the filesharing blogs with anti-TPB spam
they pretend they are real TPB supporters who are upset, but they are really antip2p shills attacking TPB community by causing dissent from within. they try to break the community
please visit the filesharing forums and blogs everywhere and spread the word: TPB crew are doing what is necessary to survive. TPB crew are not abandoning ship. TPB crew are modulating their systems. we can trust Peter and the crew to do what is best!
http://www.h33t.com says UNITE! TPB crew deserve our support at this time. out of respect for everything they have given all of us, do not doubt them now!
the word “freedom” never gonna end.
everybody support freedom of filesharing
and so are the filesharing..
We all support the TPB Crew and all the freedom of filesharing content
Ah that reminds me, I forgot to uninstall tpb toolbar.
Are these people morons? If I wanted to pay the copyright holders, I would pay them. I don’t. They could hold their dicks for all I care; I don’t recognize the concept they call copyright.
lol all those comments how cool it is that those people got 8 mil for a domain and now will start something new with 8 mil bla bla
get real, they sold out ! wouldn’t you for 8 millions ?
To h33t :
I don’t think you could cheat me. It just don’t make any sense.
h33t: we can trust Peter and the crew to do what is best!
says who ? proof ? only thing i see is .. tpb sold out for 8 millions show me proof that there is more to it and i’m one of the first to support it
To omfg :
“If you think “good on them, they made lots of cash!” then basically you’re saying the companies who hold the copyright and make money are right after all.
So what have we been fighting all this time ? ”
Vickylovely
I think TPB crew knows what they are doing better than anyone else. I mean, they are doing it first hand after all everyone else is just bitching. If the new site goes I’ll admit I probably won’t use it I have invite-only trackers anyways but I’m sure they have a master plan.
3. The Pirate Bay will pay users for sharing files.
HAHA! Probably a few pennies. I never thought I’d see the death of the old Pirate Bay… :`(
TPB is not dead.
Their torrents will survive for years alone without a valid tracker thanks to DHT, as happened with demonoid
Long live TPB!
I recommend Demonoid. Even better for audio books and Ebooks,
1.Pay Copyright holders
2.Pay File-sharers
3.????
4.Profit
Long live TPB! “we support you”!
the community will survive!
Hate to all the MAFIAA wankers!
SPAAARRRTAAAAAA!
This is a maneuver to avoid supreme court judgement. 8 million is cheap to make sure they don’t loose and close the copyright/information access debate for now.
Factory X is just a puppet.
Ernesto @ Torrentfreak May25 2007
“At the moment 50% of all the torrents on public trackers are tracked by The Pirate Bay, All hell would break loose if they were taken down”…….Hmmm,Interesting,All we can do now is wait & see,but let’s just say i’m a cynic but thanx for all the fish TPB!
Not even 10 Obama’s full of Hope could make this make any sense.
Here comes the failboat.
RESPEKT the TPB!
We support you!
hopefully they use some of that money to refund the island donations…
LOL
epic fail?
TPB RIP
The piratebay. The history repeats itself. A mixture of Napster fate and lokitorrent.com …. This is 2005 all over again. Fakes will flood everything -again-. It’s funny tpb once bought the domain and re-opened suprnova.org then let it die a quiet death…. I just hope the green demon can keep up with the pressure. They, and that poor shareaza project that is fighting like mad and they get to survive 2 domain takedowns. Keep it real.
183 replies and nobody has mentioned the fact that GGF will have direct access to IPs. In other words, MPAA, RIAA and every other synnonym would have access to the IP of anyone using the world’s largest tracker. Running the world’s largest BT tracker is one thing. Making all the content legal is virtually impossible without losing seeders.
if there is no illegal torrents….whats going to be on there?
The name should be changed if those new “business models” are applied.
But I guess the name is what makes the site lucrative in the first place, at least from a marketing point of view.
Man it must be freakin nice to have barrels of cash laying around!
RT
http://www.anonymize.tk
whatever ~ the sell out is probably cuz the piratebay trio is going to JAIL
i cancelled my account at TPB and will never be back. They are traitors and liars to the free movement and they are 2 faced for telling the world they would fight to the last breath to defend the freedoms on the internet (which are few now), and at the same time they were cutting a deal with the enemy. disgusting.
what if this is a plan from the movies industry?
Buy TPB, kill it, and try to use it a lil
You know what? Screw the pirate bay. Thats right. But, whatever the founders of it decide to make next, support it like some simile that would work with this sentence.
Beware. h33t is a industry shill and his site http://www.h33t.com is a trap
@191 so support the guys who just turned over all servers and data to the RIAA and GGF? Sounds like a good idea to you, huh
The ship is sinking… The only thing smart to do now is raise $ to pay “enough to be free” and get on with life…
RIP TPB.
It was nice knowing you while you lasted.
Good for TPB for gaining some profit from their defunct site. It is hilarious that some fool will buy the site and think that they can make a profit!
Bravo! Let the owners take their profits.
TPB is over. Eventually the state always triumphs over property rights.
Bravo to the the brave crew at TPB that carried on a difficult battle for freedom of intellectual property rights.
H33t: long live the pirate bay and other p2p networks
It looks like the anti-p2p are real haterzz or Odiosos
It looks to me like the MAFIAA wants to intimidate the others p2p networks .
Hey this something bigger than appears
so all P2P networks be aware!
Frankly, it sounds like Tower Records except it has a more complicated way of getting its content. I believe Napster was the best in the early days. Once it changed, it morphed into a similar file sharer. I like its business model. I wish him well. If he believes in his strategy, he needs to start fast. But then again, I have 6TB of music-all tagged and categorized. It doesn’t affect me. My feeling is, people who have used Pirate Bay will have no problem selling their content and going elsewhere If content comes in fast enough and it’s easy to access, people will use it.
It’s not hard to set up a website like Pirate Bay or mobilize our intelligent youth who have no money to find the sweet spot.
In Sweden there’s an ongoing political “showdown” at Almedalen, and yesterday they broadcasted some really interesting talks about copyright. Owner of GFF was there too on the panel, and gave the viewers a bit more “depth” what his plans are for TPB.
These talks were in swedish, no subs.
http://fores.se/upphov09/
I love the fact everyone worshipped piratebay and fell for all the hype and crap that peter sunde said, and now look where hes left you.
he has the cash to pay off his fine from court and he will disappear into obscurity, much like a true criminal.
TPB was never some movement or fight, it was a group of people who realised they got too much publicity and they want to get out.
is this Napster 3.0 ?
LOng Live TPB!!
Fail. This will never work.
So long The Pirate Bay.
I don’t know about anyone else, but i am not interested in making money from file sharing. I just want to be able to download and share my favourite TV shows and movies as soon as they are available.
This Hans Pandeya character, may very well have misjudged what the file sharing community is all about.
For me, at the moment though, it is business as usual. I will wait and see how this whole things turns out, before i decide what to do, and where to go next.
As most of you now know the goverment have bought into Piratebay to most like cut down on illegal torrents,
if you are a follower of the piratebay then you would have notice some great pirates who upload really really good stuff have been remove of piratebay,
too be very honest i wouldnt go near or use piratebay anymore,
its all about money now,
soon there will release the youtube killer,
which i hope flops,
which you are a supporter of pirate bay,
then you know for yourself the piratebay has swaped hands and isnt the piratebay anymore,
any legal activities in the future or downloads there will pass on to your goverment…
Yep,
very sad and very true,
i got chuck of recently…
I heard this and said to my wife, you can no longer use TPB for torrents, 90% of the users there are now going to be “honeypots” until it changes, i figure I’ll just load up somewhere else.
It is a sad day for P2P. If TPB does go down we will mourn the loss of a great tracker for many months. But then someone will have to pick up the slack. I hope another great site can step up. I support the guys from TPB and all they have accomplished. But we have seen this all before, anyone else remember the Morpheus sellout? Or how about KaZaA? Napster? We will survive and keep P2P alive forever. The only thing uncertian is which tracker will become the new “largest”.
Another will come and I cannot hardly wait. If they do make another one they better hide it from the law, block IP addresses. Everyone save the pirate bay! Copyright owners are bitching about their material is being distributed illegally but they did it to themselves. They sell the products too expensive that people cannot afford it so people pirate it. I admit I pirate over 20 movies and good DVD rip quality, and software like MS office 2007. These damn industries want you to buy the damn movie, song or software but they sell so damn high. So lower the god damn prices fools!
I’m gonna miss the pirate bay so much! I had a feeling it was gonna go someday. When another opens up I’m gonna hop to it.
TPB is over but we are right here and right now it is our time to show who is better, who will never give up. Probably almost all of us are ready to seed/reseed or upload new files, all we need is new site and trackers and i’m sure that we will get one really soon so for now we should stick together with all other release communities and build our new flagship. Be in peace TPB we will not forget and make them remember!
@ 209
http://filenetworks.blogspot.com/2009/07/pirate-bay-alternatives-12-bittorrent.html
Take your pick from these, they are all better then TPB, less fakes, faster trackers. Some like h33t are even moderated (each upload is tested for virii’s by mods until the uploader becomes trusted).
as soon as i read the part about $672 million a year in ads i stopped reading
only one word describes the new pirate bay
FAIL
Lmao, TorrentFreak just completely mind fucked GGF
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