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After iiNet Victory, Where Now For Anti-Piracy Down Under?

After failing to bring ISP iiNet into line with some extremely lengthy and expensive legal action, Hollywood has been left short on options in Australia. Of course, AFACT won’t give in. It is appealing the case and has resorted to sending out messages to scare Internet file-sharers. But does another organization have a different approach up its sleeve?

As the campaign initiated by the RIAA in the United States seemed to show, suing file-sharers does little to reduce online piracy. The swapping of files online continued unabated throughout the last decade of litigation, prompting a new strategy from the international music and movie industries – trying to hold ISPs responsible for the activities of their subscribers.

However, under the AFACT umbrella, Hollywood lost its most prominent case against ISP iiNet after the court decided that the ISP was not responsible for the infringements of its subscribers.

Despite being ordered to pay all costs, AFACT announced it would not only go back to court in an attempt to avoid paying them, it would also appeal the entire decision, claiming that the judge was wrong on just about every point.

This stubborn attitude hasn’t gone down well, with many observers openly criticizing Hollywood’s bullish stance and insisting it should accept defeat graciously. But of course, that’s not going to happen. After all, what could they do having failed to force ISPs to carry the can? Start suing file-sharers RIAA-style?

Worryingly, an AFACT spokeswoman quoted in a News.com.au article this morning (which has since inexplicably disappeared), said the anti-piracy group now has that armageddon option under consideration. She claimed they are yet to make a final decision.

In the meantime it’s back to the old FUD strategy to try and scare people away from file-sharing networks.

“If you’re using (torrents) (we) can see every movie you want, everyone who is sharing it and everyone who has it on their hard drive,” said the AFACT spokeswoman. “It’s very public what you do and as copyright holders we have a third-party company that is mining all that information and sending it to Internet Service Providers,” she added.

Well that’s not going to scare iiNet customers very much is it?

Nevertheless, AFACT claims there are a number of things ISPs can do to stop piracy, including banning access to torrent sites. Thing is, generally they aren’t, and with this latest iiNet decision there is even less incentive for ISPs to send out warnings or even temporarily suspend accounts, as shown by Exetel which recently reversed its policy.

But there are other ways to encourage reductions in piracy. You don’t have to sue ISPs, spread FUD or imply that suing end users is an option under consideration. Instead of being aggressive towards customers, why not try to pull them onside?

The Intellectual Property Awareness Foundation (IPAF) was created to “promote the value of the industry by raising awareness, understanding and appreciation of intellectual property, and its role and value in society.” In other words, this is a more outwardly friendly anti-piracy group that aims to educate and persuade rather than deal the traditional death-by-lawyer.

Today IPAF announced the appointment of a new CEO, ex-Sony and Fox director Gail Grant who will lead the organization “to motivate a change in public attitude away from piracy” and “encourage supporting the more than 50,000 people employed in all aspects of the industry through the enjoyment of original and legitimate film and television experiences.”

Fair enough. Persuading the public is certainly better than beating them into submission. But there is a problem. While IPAF plays softly-softly with its consumer friendly image, its main sponsors are doing completely the opposite. In case you’re wondering, those sponsors are AFACT and the MPA.

As earlier pointed out by iiNet chief Michael Malone and countless others, the best way to combat piracy is to make movie and TV content available online readily and cheaply. Maybe the studios could get together and create a new group with a CEO dedicated to that, instead of spending money on all of these other good-cop/bad-cop groups with conflicting messages.

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  • Bob

    Seed More!

  • Anon

    @#1: shure…

    BTW… “If you’re using (torrents) (we) can see every movie you want, everyone who is sharing it and everyone who has it on their hard drive,”

    That’s crap!

    The only thing that’s visible is the movies currently sharing not all the stuff on the hard drive…

  • tester errer

    very bad practices reminding always Goebels and Nazis . Something must stop them

  • Johnsee

    Shouldn’t the title read iinet victory?

    TF: Victory is better indeed :)

  • Rabbit80

    @2 You forget they like to watch the emule networks.. Shared folders do happen!

  • Brandon

    “Maybe the studios could get together and create a new group with a CEO dedicated to that, instead of spending money on all of these other good-cop/bad-cop groups with conflicting messages.”

    The studio bosses would kill each other during the selection process. Last man standing, hah!

  • wtf

    “If you’re using (torrents) (we) can see every movie you want, everyone who is sharing it and everyone who has it on their hard drive,”

    umm.. no you cant.. no.. you cant.. aannd finaly.. no you most certainly cannot.

    Sorry try again.

    but if were in the spirit of making sh1t up..

    i see London.. i see France.. i can see your a f*cking lieing criminal.

  • anonymouse

    “the best way to combat piracy is to make movie and TV content available online readily and cheaply”. how many times has this statement been made? 10, 100, 1000, 10,000? more? its the only one that makes sense. the only option that gives the majority of what both sides want, to both sides. that is the problem, though. this is not what the ‘industries’ are after. they want to control the whole internet and wont stop until they get it. governments are allowing them to continue because they are getting money out of it. trouble is, governments are too stupid to realise that at the end of the day, once control has been gained by the ‘industries’, even they will not be able to use the ‘net’ as they want.

  • Aussie

    The thing that gets me, and always has, is that there is such a clear message that downloaders are happy with low quality 700 meg versions of movies. Yet the studios refuse to see this.

    Give that option, and give it cheap – $2 or something like that. Could even be used to set up an appstore to slowly take share away from Apple. People get to see the movie, and decide whether its worth buying or not.

    Thats my personal beef – I’m very reluctant to spend up to $50 for a movie I havent seen. Very hard to return a rubbish movie once you’ve watched it.

    Having said that, the oovie vending machines popping up in various places are a step in the right direction. Register on their website(www.oovie.com.au I think), and they send you a freebie code you can use on Wednesdays.

    New (and newish) releases only, but its something.

  • Tom

    Here is a simple solution… give me a $150 a month all you can eat movie and tv show service via iTunes or similar.

    That’s a lot more money than I have ever paid for my monthly entertainment but rest assured I’d be more than happy to pay that sort of money if:

    - I would get to see movies in the comfort of my home the day they have a cinematic release.

    - I wouldn’t have to sit through 20 minutes of add to watch my favourite TV show.

    Of course that’s never going to happen since people are too destined to hang to old world business models. Sadly that is exactly what drives piracy. I really believe that fundamentally people are prepared to pay for digital media the way of consumption is convenient.

    The real problem Hollywood (as well as the music industry) are facing is the fact that due their inaction to provide a viable solution to the problem a new generation of media consumers is emerging that take piracy for granted and as the norm.

  • Duncan

    The only thing you missed out on is the saber rattling from Conroy; what next is likely three strikes given that Conroy goes skiing with one of the parties who sued iiNet.

  • BigBoss

    “News.com.au article this morning (which has since inexplicably disappeared), said the anti-piracy group now has that armageddon option under consideration. She claimed they are yet to make a final decision.”

    What does that mean? Some sort of false flag against internet Freedoms or on file-shares?

  • Alan Smiff

    We NEED acces to torrent technology in Australia as we’re 10 years behind the rest of the world in terms of access to imports and even ratings on digital media… FUCK Holloywood, they regurgitate spew and sell it back as entertainment, FUCK AFACT and the MPA, they are parasitic worms and FUCK the lawyers that propagate this shit…they cant stop us now and they never will…I buy great games and play them to the end, I buy great music and go and see concerts…U2 dont need the $4 that the record company give them for all their hard work/CD. If it have value people will spend money…if not its a free trial/sample…

  • rock

    they always say sh@t to try and scare people away from using torrents like its going to work.
    http://www.movietorrentblog.com

  • jovialau

    Concur with the above.At the end of the day.And this apparently cannot be said too often.The business model must change.The customer is always right,or the customer leaves and does not return.For far too long the hollywood moguls have had it their own way.They have (conservatively) foisted 90%crap on an ever frustrated public,who then became increasingly frustrated by spending their hard earned to find out it was 90% crap.The public,has merely taken their revenge by overviewing what is available,and not being hamstrung into hollywood`s stale old,(It`s our way or the highway) business? model.They should take the millions that they are pouring into a losing argument,and give me only what I want,when I want it!Happy to pay for a good quality movie,which I have decided that I want “upon release.”

  • townie2

    they want a 3 strike system for torrenters, there should be a 3 strike system for them too, they lose 3 court cases, they can’t go to court again. fairs fair.

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  • Tigger

    Good comments guys, i agree 100% with all of you so far!

    I recently had some big issues with games for windows live – i paid for a game, started to play and thanks to a GFWL update, lost most of my save game data, and had microsoft DRM crap all over my PC – i made the decision there and then to never give microsoft another penny of my money, it would have been so much better to just pirate this game and cut out GFWL.
    Thus, the industries efforts to stop piracy, ultimately make more people pirate to avoid all the hassle that goes with a legitimate product! When will they learn from they’re mitakes and change to a decent business model???

    Ive heard it said that the system will change only when the existing system fails, slowly but surely, the industries are perpetuating they’re own downfall….

  • Einstein

    Ok, lets dissect this:
    Going after and suing individual file sharers, FAIL!
    Going after .torrent sites, FAIL!
    Going after ISPs, FAIL!
    Going after Google? Out of the question!
    So what’s next for the bulldog lawyers at Hollywood’s disposal? I can’t imagine what they will come up with next, but I’m sure they are not out of ideas. They have Billion$ at their disposal. Billion$ that US, the consumers, have provided THEM with!
    Is that irony or what?

  • antifeature

    “If you’re using (torrents) (we) can see every movie you want, everyone who is sharing it and everyone who has it on their hard drive,” said the AFACT spokeswoman.

    meh…

  • AFAG

    “If you’re using (torrents) (we) can see every movie you want, everyone who is sharing it….”

    “…and everyone who has it on their hard drive”

    What are they some sort of mind reader?

  • robert

    don’t these big rich greedy assholes ever stop im so over this shit lol its just silly now so childish. they live like kings yet they want more money . sure they need a few extra million to wipe there ass with other then that i cant figure it out. if there any way to make self most known greedy and stupid ass troll in world they have done it . bye the way LONG LIVE THE PIRATEBAY . TODAYS ROBIN HOOD

  • Aik

    I joined the Australian Pirate Party today – you probably should too.

    Shame that they’re considering suing individual file sharers – Australia has been rather cosy and safe on that front.

  • leprosy

    News.com link has been saved:

    Downloaders watched for movie piracy March 3, 2010 08:37AM

    Link: http://m.news.com.au/TopStories/fi477222.htm

  • Steve-O

    Wowie, 5000 DVDs! And for that they need 11 people?

    Acting on a tip-off, 11 enforcement officers from the Ministry of Domestic Trade and Co-operatives And Consumerism (MDTCC), with support from Malaysian Federation Against Copyright Theft (MFACT), representing the Motion Picture Association (MPA) in Malaysia, raided a clandestine factory on March 2 in Kampong Baru Sungai Buloh located in the industrial area of Selangor.

    The raiding party found five men operating the production lines at the time they entered the factory premises. Two DVD replicating lines and over 5,000 copies of pirated DVDs were seized, among them were MPA member company titles “Case 39”, “Ninja Assassin” and “Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel”.

    “We are very happy to hear that the MDTCC is steadfast in its resolve to root out the nefarious elements responsible for source piracy in Malaysia,” said Mike Ellis, President and Managing Director, Asia-Pacific for the MPA. “We will continue to work closely with the MDTCC to protect the creative industries and shut down more such criminal activity.”

    http://www.mpa-i.org/newspress/newspress_malaysia100303.html

  • STOP!

    are you reading these words now? why? get up and go out and do something useful with your life!

  • adyshor

    The world is changing! (who/when/where?!)
    Grow up Hollywood!

  • JustThis

    “As earlier pointed out by iiNet chief Michael Malone and countless others, the best way to combat piracy is to make movie and TV content available online readily and cheaply.”

    Exactly. I would be happy to pay a reasonable monthly fee to get legal, easy, and fast access to all the stuff I can currently get free via torrenting and Usenet.

    And I bet hundreds of millions of people around the world would too.

    But those greedy short-sighted fucktards in the corporate world just ain’t listening.

  • Man In Tights

    You can’t get me

  • desuru

    what is FUD?

  • Pirate Dave

    Greed. It’s all greed.

    This is a quote from a book on how to make money:

    “I have a friend who’s worth ten million dollars. He always says he doesn’t have enough money–if YOU think that’s enough money then you’ll never have ten million dollars.”

    These companies have billions–and it’s not enough and never will be.

  • Pay-2-Leach

    Hey big content, I pay to leach because you don’t offer the product/services I want, the way I want. But the pirates do… I rather give the money to you but you got law firms firmly inserted into your back sides and pretty soon they will be making more money than you. Wake up and grow up.

  • Midarezaki

    @27
    Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

  • knux

    I love how they get E-mule type networks and torrents confused. It really makes me chuckle. Honestly though, if you are going to try to throw ‘scary’ statements around, how about they be atleast obtainable. Otherwise you’ll get statements back from the nerdy pirates about unobtanium and the like.

  • The Lazy Sign Painter

    The limerick is furtive and mean
    You must keep it in close quarantine
    Or it sneaks to the slums
    And promptly becomes
    Disorderly, drunk and obscene

  • Barney Blue

    The entertainment industry is used to always getting their way, which is a big part of the problem. The reason they are wasting so much money is because that is how they have solved all of their problems in the past. Unfortunately they’ve run into an obstacle that cannot be solved no matter how much cash they throw at it. Slowly they are realizing that perhaps the honey approach might be better than the vinegar one they’ve been using up until now. However, by choosing vinegar first they’ve destroyed all good will towards them, rendering the honey approach useless. Who in their right mind, after watching everything the entertainment industry and their lawyers have done over the past decade, is going to want honey that is in all likelihood tainted? On top of that they act like a child having a temper tantrum every time they suffer a loss in court. The barely veiled threats against internet users that were issued and then promptly taken down are a perfect example of this and do nothing to engender good faith. Any industry that treats its customers like dirt deserves the karmic boomerang heading their way.

  • Trelew

    “promote the value of the industry by raising awareness, understanding and appreciation of intellectual property, and its role and value in society.”

    “to motivate a change in public attitude away from piracy” and “encourage supporting the more than 50,000 people employed in all aspects of the industry through the enjoyment of original and legitimate film and television experiences.”

    Hmm….smell corporate propaganda to me and once you get pass the image, it still stinks!

  • gorehound

    MPAA & RIIA DIE !!!

    I stopped buying any new films and I never buy any corporate music.
    Buyused films instead of giving the assholes any more money

  • XS

    “If you’re using (torrents) (we) can see every movie you want, everyone who is sharing it and everyone who has it on their hard drive,”

    They can see every movie a certain IP address is requesting but that doesn’t mean it’s the owner of that IP address requesting it, nor does it mean it’s someone who is authorized to use that connection.

    If someone’s PC is being controlled by trojan or their network is not properly secured, the file might never be written to a hard-disk in a household/organisation associated with a given IP address.

    It could be a hacker in a different country, it could be a wifi jacker parked outside in their car.

    People can also hire an internet connection and then have children or associates do things without their consent and knowledge… such as infringing copyright.

    AFACT have nothing but guesses… good luck with that.

  • Rezoned Mint

    So big entertainment wants me to pay for content? Fair enough – I’d be happy to if I knew the money was going to the creatives. But it’s not is it? No, it’s going to pay for law suits that are a waste of time and money, so they’re not protecting the artists with these lawsuits, they’re actually harming the artists financially.

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  • 8007L39

    Torrents are dead and always have been, and ftp, irc and even good ole telnet will never be… shame they waste all this money, they could actually make more movies, but no lets impose infringements on people… yeh what ever… what a wasted effort.

    FTW and use ftp, irc, news and if you 1337 enough telnet… i never had a problem

    8007L39

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