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Draconian Anti-Piracy Censorship Bill Passes Senate Committee

The controversial PROTECT IP Act unanimously passed the Senate Judiciary Committee today. When the PROTECT IP Act becomes law U.S. authorities and copyright holders will have the power to seize domains, block websites and censor search engines to prevent copyright infringements. Introduced just two weeks ago, the bill now heads over to the Senate for further consideration and another vote.

censoredThe U.S. Government continues to back legislation that opens the door to unprecedented Internet censorship.

Two weeks ago a group of U.S. senators proposed legislation to make it easier to crack down on so-called rogue websites, and today the Senate’s Judicial Committee unanimously approved the bill.

When the PROTECT IP Act becomes law the authorities can legitimately seize any domain name they deem to be facilitating copyright infringement. All that’s required to do so is a preliminary order from the court. But that’s just the start, the bill in fact provides a broad range of censorship tools.

In case a domain is not registered or controlled by a U.S. company, the authorities can also order search engines to remove the website from its search results, order ISPs to block the website, and order ad-networks and payment processors to stop providing services to the website in question.

Backers of the bill argue that the PROTECT IP Act is needed as an extension of the already controversial domain seizures. As reported previously, it is now relatively easy for a seized website to continue operating under a new non-US based domain name.

Not everyone agrees with this stance. Yesterday several Internet giants including Google, Yahoo, eBay and American Express asked the Senate Committee not to adopt the bill, warning it would “undoubtedly inhibit innovation and economic growth.”

However, the concerns raised by the companies did not affect the vote today.

“Today the Judiciary Committee took an important step in protecting online intellectual property rights. The Internet is not a lawless free-for-all where anything goes,” commented Senator Orrin Hatch. “The Constitution protects both property and speech, both online and off.”

“The PROTECT IP Act targets the most egregious actors, and is an important first step to putting a stop to online piracy and the sale of counterfeit goods,” Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy said commenting on the importance of the bill.

“Both law enforcement and rights holders are currently limited in the remedies available to combat websites dedicated to offering infringing content and products. These rogue websites are often foreign-owned and operated, or reside at domain names that are not registered through a U.S.-based registry or registrar,” Leahy added.

Similar comments were made by the other Committee members and the various entertainment industry lobby groups.

For Hollywood and the major record labels the PROTECT IP Act is the legislation they have dreamed of for a long time. It allows for copyright holders to obtain a court orders to seize a domain, or prevent payment providers and ad-networks from doing business with sites that allegedly facilitate copyright infringement. All without due process.

The PROTECT IP Act will now move on to the Senate where it’s expected to be opposed by Senator Ron Wyden, who also stopped the bill’s predecessor COICA, fearing it would stifle free speech. Whether it will be enough to prevent the legislation from becoming law has yet to be seen.

Update: Senator Wyden placed a hold on the PROTECT IP Act and released the following statement.

“Consistent with Senate Standing Orders and my policy of publishing in the Congressional Record a statement whenever I place a hold on legislation, I am announcing my intention to object to any unanimous consent request to proceed to S. 968, the PROTECT IP Act.

“In December of last year I placed a hold on similar legislation, commonly called COICA, because I felt the costs of the legislation far outweighed the benefits. After careful analysis of the Protect IP Act, or PIPA, I am compelled to draw the same conclusion. I understand and agree with the goal of the legislation, to protect intellectual property and combat commerce in counterfeit goods, but I am not willing to muzzle speech and stifle innovation and economic growth to achieve this objective. At the expense of legitimate commerce, PIPA’s prescription takes an overreaching approach to policing the Internet when a more balanced and targeted approach would be more effective. The collateral damage of this approach is speech, innovation and the very integrity of the Internet.

“The Internet represents the shipping lane of the 21st century. It is increasingly in America’s economic interest to ensure that the Internet is a viable means for American innovation, commerce, and the advancement of our ideals that empower people all around the world. By ceding control of the Internet to corporations through a private right of action, and to government agencies that do not sufficiently understand and value the Internet, PIPA represents a threat to our economic future and to our international objectives. Until the many issues that I and others have raised with this legislation are addressed, I will object to a unanimous consent request to proceed to the legislation.”

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  • Dude

    1st

    • Neotoasty

      Nobody cares, just hang yourself already.

  • Neotoasty

    I have a feeling this will pass, and if it does, there’s no faith whatsoever for this country. Not that there ever was to begin with considering we’ve got media nutcases wanting to protect value-less data. I hope it doesn’t pass, because it’ll mean an end to a series of things on the internet. Yet these soul less bastards don’t care. Protecting only their wallets at the expense of everyone.

    • Acheron

      It IS going to pass, as it took just 2 weeks for it to pass the senate committee.
      Once it passes, they’ll start to harass TPB, and eventually YouTube.

      As Google said, they’ll fight the copyright laws, and there is gonna be a blood bath once they start attacking Google (only if google stays true to their word and fights it).

      Then Google’s gonna make headlines over every news network, such as Fox and CNN, and they’ll try to show the public that this is censorship, and how they pulled out of China for those reasons, and they’ll threaten to pull out of the US, and my wizardy see-in-to-the-future powers end there.

      • http://twitter.com/Stphnvlstk Stphnvlstk

        Get real, Google isn’t gonna fight shit. Law is law, and while they may publicly disagree, they’re not going to be the rebellion you hope they will be.

        • Acheron

          >>(only if google stays true to their word and fights it).

          Are you daft?

        • Anonymous

          Ok answer m this for what reason would someone have to not be willing to stand up for the little guy?

        • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

          Maybe being Brookings Institute members?

        • Danny

          FUCK THE LAW!!

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake O Rly Owl

          Yes they can fight the law. In Brazil a judicial decision at the supreme court now allows homosexual couples to have the same civil rights as hetero couples because the judges understood that every1 should be treated equally and that homosexual couples constitute a valid relationship. The Brazilian politicians didn’t have the balls to address this controversial issue and change the law. But Brazil is just one example of laws that were shot down after they were passed.

          Hopefully it won’t pass. If the Americans aren’t too anesthetized by their ipods and other gadgets I hope they start demonstrating against the death of their freedom.

        • Ven

          This is how the U.S. system works: our government passes laws based on solving the given problems, and the courts decide whether or not it’s constitutional and whether or not to give it any power whatsoever.

          We have years before we will actually see any form of “success” out of this act.

        • http://rpg-exploiters.com Spitt

          A few months ago, Blizzard Entertainment (makers of Diablo, Starcraft, and World of Warcraft), claimed that companies like IGE, Mogs, MMOGoldSales, etc were selling copyrighted and protected content, WoW game gold. They attempted to have PayPal remove the ability for these companies to use PayPal as a payment processor.

          It was proven that Blizzard did NOT indeed have a copyright on these virtual products.

          Now imagine if Blizzard somehow did copyright the content or worse, just claimed that they did… again. Blizzard would goto the courts and have all these sites’ domains seized or blocked.

          Torrent sites, come and go, but the rep for these “gold sites” as not being fly-by-night, is difficult at best. They need the rep, to stay in business.

          If Blizzard were to have access to a law like this, then I would not doubt that this type of business would go away. We’re talking millions of jobs, world wide. And it’s not just the gold sites, it’s the farmers, the IT departments, the hosting companies, the CSRs… many many many people will lose their jobs.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q3LW4M6SQAK3FMWUJRBO57GJN4 Kuk, Dustyn

          Your only argument is “law is law”? Wow, you’d make a good slave…

        • Ven

          I think he meant that Google is a company that operates within the law to make profit. Fighting law is not profitable (idealistic but not probable) unless there is research to show that the cost of the fight and the resulting business atmosphere will be more profitable than just letting the law continue unabated.

          In this case, I have to agree that I don’t think Google would fight it if the proposal made it into law. If the law is used to go after them they will obviously defend themselves, but they won’t be going out of their way to get it reversed. Google’s and YouTube’s traffic may include illicit traffic, but their money is all advertisement and copyright holders working with them. In a climate where pirating is a hard thing to do, playing ball with the copyright holders will be the new golden goose.

      • Neotoasty

        Google didn’t even do much during the ISOHunt case. They had all the power then. They were only looking out for their own asses. Sure their views are that they’re on a thin line on keeping things balanced.

        But really, they will defend themselves only when THEY are attacked, forget anybody else. FOX isn’t going to tell anybody shit but more lies, CNN maybe an exception. But Google has demonstrated so far that it’s only defending itself, while still taking it up the ass.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake O Rly Owl

          They are trying to keep the balance. This bill clearly disrupt the balance. And Google will be the loosing side. Expect blood.

      • I am a sausage not a hotdog

        At this moment and time i can’t express how much i really want this to fade away start writing to your senators this needs to come to an end ,and representatives. we might actually be able to fight this just like we fought coica.My deepest sympathy world-wide. these crooks are destroying our Internet our free expression.

        • I am a sausage not a hotdog

          Update: Wyden’s office has just sent out his explanation for the hold:

          “In December of last year I placed a hold on similar legislation, commonly called COICA, because I felt the costs of the legislation far outweighed the benefits. After careful analysis of the Protect IP Act, or PIPA, I am compelled to draw the same conclusion. I understand and agree with the goal of the legislation, to protect intellectual property and combat commerce in counterfeit goods, but I am not willing to muzzle speech and stifle innovation and economic growth to achieve this objective. At the expense of legitimate commerce, PIPA’s prescription takes an overreaching approach to policing the Internet when a more balanced and targeted approach would be more effective. The collateral damage of this approach is speech, innovation and the very integrity of the Internet.

          “The Internet represents the shipping lane of the 21st century. It is increasingly in America’s economic interest to ensure that the Internet is a viable means for American innovation, commerce, and the advancement of our ideals that empower people all around the world. By ceding control of the Internet to corporations through a private right of action, and to government agencies that do not sufficiently understand and value the Internet, PIPA represents a threat to our economic future and to our international objectives. Until the many issues that I and others have raised with this legislation are addressed, I will object to a unanimous consent request to proceed to the legislation.”

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake O Rly Owl

          Epic win. This guy knows what he’s talking about.

        • I am a sausage not a hotdog

          Yeah he does:)

        • Benjamin M Strozykowski

          If I lived in Oregon, I would absolutely vote for this guy.

        • I am a sausage not a hotdog

          No kidding this man is a savior :)

        • Jay

          What would be really powerful is if he were to give multiple options besides this law that would help people protect peoples intellectual property; basically the whole talk on how the current business model is outdated and that it needs to change. When he says to the senate, “when a more balanced and targeted approach would be more effective.”, they will ask if, “anybody has a better option”. The annoying assholes that try to get these laws passed are so arrogant and think that pushing for these laws is their only option.
          Wyden needs to completely own them and give them something no one has heard of before, perhaps by gathering creative minds together and really brainstorming new ideas.

          On another note, this law is completely hypocritical to what the usa stands for. Correction… Did stand for.

        • I am a sausage not a hotdog

          No kidding he thinks on the same level of the people. That i respect.

        • Tashfin C

          Sure, the guys who run The Great Firewall of China are all Commie anarchist-manipulators who trample on human rights, free speech, personal liberties, blah blah blah.
          USA: [1] What’s your mojo? [2] Doesn’t the “”All without due process” thingy violate your Constitution somewhere and/or the whole “innocent until proven guilty” principle????

        • http://crashsuit.blogspot.com crashsuit

          I will keep voting for Wyden until my hands fall off and I can no longer fill in the little circle on the ballot.

      • Robert

        Google won’t have to fight it because the government won’t seize any of their domain names nor will they “go after” YouTube.

        • Unknown

          soon as torrent and p2p sites are censored of course they will go after youtube. its easy to download copyrighted music/video right from youtube.

        • http://jforcegames.com Ato

          They’re not gonna go after youtube because youtube actually responds to take-down requests. All the evil pirate sites don’t.They instead say “fuck off.”

          Can’t wait for this law to pass.

        • CaptainManning

          They wont?. I beg to differ.
          Megaupload, Rapidshare, Hotfile and others also comply with DMCA takedown requests, but that didn’t stop the likes of the RIAA going after some of them did it?.

          It is a bit naive to think that once a law like this passes, it will not be subject to so called function creep, with other powerful lobbyists using it for their own ends. Despite it’s efforts, YouTube is still one of the biggest source of illegally uploaded/downloaded video content, particularly music videos. Do you really think the RIAA wont try any and all means they can to put a stop to that?.

          Here in the UK that is something we have come to see, and argue against. Bills such as RIPA (Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act), the anti terror legislation etc. have ALL been abused by interested bodies who find they can use the ambiguous wordings most of these types of acts contain for their own ends.

          And it is not just the US that have these types of fairly draconian proposals. The UK’s recently passed Digital Rights Bill had very similar proposals.

        • http://jforcegames.com Ato

          But youtube has the content id system just for this purpose. Content creators can have their content *automatically* removed. I don’t see how youtube could be labeled as a “site dedicated to infringing activities” (especially with the more narrow definition this bill claims to have) with this perfect system in place.

          But come on, it’s freaking youtube. It’s way too big to get shutdown like this. Google is too powerful to let that happen.

        • Ven

          There is a big difference between complying with legally-binding take-down notices (what is done by MegaUpload, Rapidshare, Hotfile, and others), and what Google/Youtube has done: teamed up with copyright holders to create new income potential.

      • Robert

        Google won’t have to fight it because the government won’t seize any of their domain names nor will they “go after” YouTube.

    • Ryzzo

      I hope you are wrong. Senator Ron Wyden has already announced that he plans to hold the bill from going to vote . http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/05/sen-ron-wyden-to-place-a-hold-on-the-protect-ip-act.ars At least the free internet still has at least one friend in the government…

      • Neotoasty

        I hope I’m wrong too. Sadly, that’s like one friend out of a 1,000 suits.

        • Anonymous

          I counted two. One in the Senate and one in the House.

      • Nate

        He can only put a temporary hold on it though. The bill is going to pass.

    • Haxor

      usa= boned suckers

    • WilleZurMacht

      Funny how so many people justify their lack of morals and theft: “OH BUT IT’S A BIG COMPANY, WHAT’S IT MATTER? I AM WILLINGLY BLIND THAT THEY EMPLOY PEOPLE THAT WORK HARD FOR THEIR LIVELIHOOD.”

      • Tashfin C

        Bottom line is, the ‘Copyright Holders’ and the Law they hide behind are both Stone-Aged, and they’re too blinkered to try and innovate their way into the present day.
        What do you think would have happened if Medieval monks had convinced the Vatican to Inquisition (sue) Gutenberg and declare his printing press a heresy, in order to preserve their “economic model” of hand-crafting tomes (copyright), which took decades to put together???
        Modern-day “democracy” really can be a drag sometimes, eh?

        • Ven

          Let me ask you this: do you believe copyright is defended by the Constitution?

  • jerry dandridge

    i have faith that somehow we’ll still be able to work around it. just like how every one of these android phones comes out that’s is supposed to be unable to be rooted and someone figures out how to root it within 24 hrs. where there is a will, there is a way. these big wigs are always on the reacting side. which means we just have to stay one step ahead.

  • jerry dandridge

    i have faith that somehow we’ll still be able to work around it. just like how every one of these android phones comes out that’s is supposed to be unable to be rooted and someone figures out how to root it within 24 hrs. where there is a will, there is a way. these big wigs are always on the reacting side. which means we just have to stay one step ahead.

    • Anon

      In the long run, we would never have to forge “work arounds” if we instead prevented and destroyed the restriction and censorship they put upon us.

      • Acheron

        how?

      • Acheron

        how?

        • dethwsh

          That would be telling well kept secrets. Sorry.

        • IDIOCRACY

          vote pirate party

      • Tashfin C

        The “work arounds” will, optimistically speaking, spawn the required destruction

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      Every last one of the measures they propose is easily bypassable by using a proxy.

      And even if they managed to block every VPN in the world (you can imagine how THAT would affect legal business) any encrypted P2P application would just whisper straight through anything they did, short of pulling the plug.

      As usual, technology and the cold hard facts of reality beats politics hands down.

      • Ven

        Two things:

        - The PROTECT IP gives the DoJ the ability to make things highly unpleasant for proxies overseas. They can freeze assets, IPs, and anything else within the grasp of the United States. Is their bank or your bank working in the U.S.? If so, they can lean on your bank into blocking transactions.
        - If proxies become the new big workaround anyway, how long do you think it will take for the government to pass laws against those? I see PROTECT IP to be far more controversial than a simple, “We block IP ranges of servers that don’t play ball with the DoJ” would be. The Constitution protects the rights of citizens here as a top priority; currently copyright is included in the protections. There is no way the right to communicate with foreign servers (or the right of foreigners to run a business) will trump that as long as it exists.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

    great democracy you’ve got there, humans… I’ll come live in the swamps with the alligators instead… at least they know how to do the things they do right..

    • Tashfin C

      Sorry, I’m not the outdoorsy type myself. Think I’ll move to China instead :P

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  • http://Androidized.com Lucian Armasu

    How did the US Government get the power to control world-wide domains just because a website is not following their own rules and even if it operates from another country?

  • http://Androidized.com Lucian Armasu

    How did the US Government get the power to control world-wide domains just because a website is not following their own rules and even if it operates from another country?

  • http://Androidized.com Lucian Armasu

    How did the US Government get the power to control world-wide domains just because a website is not following their own rules and even if it operates from another country?

    • Gae

      Imagine if it was China instead of the US that had controll of domains, search engines, payment processors and ad networks and they started to block all websites for international users because the sites did not cooperate with Chinese laws on what is allowed to be done or said online…..
      How acceptable would the US find that?

      • Glowerous

        They’d love it. They’d have something else to bomb.

        • Anonymous

          Actually, I’d have to wonder about that. I say that because the US Government actively protests against China’s censorship. Yet, see what they’re doing here? Bunch of hypocrites is what most politicians are, only to garner votes and that’s it. Rarely anyone stays true to their word anymore.

        • Anonymous

          The great firewall of the United States will soon go up.

          Then keep in mind how they soon abuse every law for their own goals.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake O Rly Owl

          China has called the US hypocrites already. Shameful.

        • Tashfin C

          WOOT for China. WOOT for China.
          I could bet that this violates the “innocent until proven guilty” principle, for starters.
          A lot of the torrent, cyberlocker, VPN and ‘free speech’ servers and domains will start deserting the States now… one day in the future, some countries might well find it economically viable to scrap Copyright Law altogether
          “May you live in interesting times.” – reputedly a Chinese proverb

        • Anonymous

          Actually, I’d have to wonder about that. I say that because the US Government actively protests against China’s censorship. Yet, see what they’re doing here? Bunch of hypocrites is what most politicians are, only to garner votes and that’s it. Rarely anyone stays true to their word anymore.

  • dethwsh

    If this passes I think its time to renounce the internet and all its ill-fated future. What these douche waffles don’t think about is the back lash this will cause in the hacker scenes. Anyone who will let this pass will be hacked. No, probably won’t ever reach the news but it will be fun. They won’t stop them, if anything they are asking for the internet to be shut down by these guys. Dumb move. If it does and we let them; I am no longer going to pay for internet at all. Might as well go all out and steal everything. Let rich pay for my service, if they are the ones who want this, they can pay for it.

  • dethwsh

    If this passes I think its time to renounce the internet and all its ill-fated future. What these douche waffles don’t think about is the back lash this will cause in the hacker scenes. Anyone who will let this pass will be hacked. No, probably won’t ever reach the news but it will be fun. They won’t stop them, if anything they are asking for the internet to be shut down by these guys. Dumb move. If it does and we let them; I am no longer going to pay for internet at all. Might as well go all out and steal everything. Let rich pay for my service, if they are the ones who want this, they can pay for it.

    • Anon

      There are initiatives to build an alternate internet. TPB, Annon, and Wikileaks need to join forces and take back what is rightfully ours!

      • dethwsh

        I will look into this and do my best to help. An anonymous and free internet, regardless of speed would be better than this closed controlled internet. Information will be free, despite government and lobbyist wishes.

    • Ven

      You know what’s funny about all this is that I always figured our slow-as-molasses government would simply give up one day and say, “We take it back, the internet is a privilege and not a right, and therefore nothing is protected there.”

      It just seems like the laziest way to fix their problems.

  • dethwsh

    If this passes I think its time to renounce the internet and all its ill-fated future. What these douche waffles don’t think about is the back lash this will cause in the hacker scenes. Anyone who will let this pass will be hacked. No, probably won’t ever reach the news but it will be fun. They won’t stop them, if anything they are asking for the internet to be shut down by these guys. Dumb move. If it does and we let them; I am no longer going to pay for internet at all. Might as well go all out and steal everything. Let rich pay for my service, if they are the ones who want this, they can pay for it.

  • Momo

    There’s an important update!

    Ron Wyden: Puts Hold On PROTECT IP, Temporarily Withdraws Amendment On The PATRIOT Act

    In other words, it’s on ice — at least for now.

  • Momo

    There’s an important update!

    Ron Wyden: Puts Hold On PROTECT IP, Temporarily Withdraws Amendment On The PATRIOT Act

    In other words, it’s on ice — at least for now.

  • teewb
  • Momo

    There’s an important update!

    Ron Wyden: Puts Hold On PROTECT IP, Temporarily Withdraws Amendment On The PATRIOT Act

    In other words, it’s on ice — at least for now.

    • Nate

      It’s not on ice at all. His hold can be overruled very easily and with the unanimous bi-partisan support the bill has, his hold will be gone the first day the bill is to be brought up for business.

      It was a token gesture to build up his rep in the tech lobby.

      • Speel

        you may say tech lobby but no, its to build his rep in OREGON itself.
        Oregon is an interesting state. Its very much fulled with activists and people who probably follow the same ideals as the pirate party of Sweden. If anything will keep this under control it may just be oregon. Anyway portland is filled to the brim with underground activists, if this shit passes the shit will hit the fan in more ways than one.

  • teewb
  • teewb
  • Foundaa

    UPDATE: Blocked by Ron Wyden (D-Oregon)

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/blacklisting-law-advances/

    This is also the Senator who revealed a secret interpretation of the PATRIOT Act a few days ago. Looks like someone on the Hill has some common sense.

    • Fantastic

      Good for him hopefully some like Rand Paul will also join him in the fight because this isn’t about party politics this is about the corporate government cabal that needs to be crushed out of existence.

  • Lukas

    USA, what happened to you? you used to be cool.
    what pisses me off the most is not that USA is approving these law, it’s the fact that most of Europe acts like USA B*tches in taking similar measures.

    Forget this stupid “Modern” Internet. i’ll just go use TOR.

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  • Needlez

    I agree with Google, and all other people that are against this bill, it will stifle the freedom of speech and the entire internet will collapse from the inside out. What will likely happen is that if this bill passes nobody will get hacked and everything will go on as it did before except until someone does something that the RIAA, MPAA, dont like then they will have their suits come and arrest the owners of the site, and if that happens they may as well arrest all search engines that can and could link to anything. And for them to arrest someone like the admins of google would prove nobody is safe, which would mean the ultimate destruction of the internet or the split of the internet into multilinked little subnets that reside within peoples houses. which wont even be accessible to the outside communities. Which was how the internet originated in the first place by hackers and other like minded individuals and for them to go against these people is like committing suicide. They will come, they will remove, they will annihilate, they will rebuild, they will encrypt, and they will win. If you think this is a joke to hackers and others alike you have made a poor assumption, and you will now find out how much of the internet is controlled not by government but by the original source of code. The hacker community.

    • Anonymous

      “multilinked little subnets that reside within peoples houses. which wont even be accessible to the outside communities”

      That sounds just like the old BBS systems…

  • QuadSlacker

    Every senator and congresscritter that votes for this steaming pile of bill can expect to be shit-listed by young voting Americans. We’re not (generally speaking) as dumb or apathetic as they think!

  • QuadSlacker

    Every senator and congresscritter that votes for this steaming pile of bill can expect to be shit-listed by young voting Americans. We’re not (generally speaking) as dumb or apathetic as they think!

    • Momo

      The list of shits is as follows:

      Patrick J. Leahy — Vermont
      Herb Kohl — Wisconsin
      Jeff Sessions — Alabama
      Dianne Feinstein — California
      Orrin G. Hatch — Utah
      Richard Blumenthal — Connecticut
      Chuck Grassley — Iowa
      Michael Lee — Utah
      Jon Kyl — Arizona
      Chuck Schumer — New York
      Lindsey Graham — South Carolina
      Dick Durbin — Illinois
      John Cornyn — Texas
      Tom Coburn — Oklahoma
      Sheldon Whitehouse — Rhode Island
      Amy Klobuchar — Minnesota
      Al Franken — Minnesota
      Chris Coons — Delaware

      Send the bastards to China where they belong.

      • 4ChanStrangler

        China has a 90+% piracy rate.

        It’s you pirates that want the US internet to look like China’s.

        • Erthwjim

          China has a 90% piracy rate because 200 dollars for an operating system or 50 dollars for a program is equivalent to paying 10 times that in the US. China has a lower cost of living and lower salaries, so why spend half a years salary on software when they can pirate it. It has nothing to do with people in the US wanting to be like China. Hell most of southeast Asia pirates, it’s not just limited to China, Malaysia does it, the Philippines does it, etc..

        • brudda

          I live in Thailand, and six years ago I bought a computer. To buy windows xp with office in the box cost over $500.00, that’s more than the computer cost. I went down the hall and had every kind of software I would ever need installed for about 8 bucks. Talk about demand destruction!

        • Tashfin C

          Agreed. My annual salary here in Bangladesh is approx $3000, and we don’t have your fancy-shmancy stock options, unemployment benefits, Social Security, healthcare or insurance either. My frigging house is probably worse-off than one of your minimum-security joints. Annual taxi (think tuk-tuk) fare alone would cost about $800, and food another $800 more, and that too only if I eat el cheapo and not go to a single McDonalds-level restaurant all year long. Do you, in all honesty, seriously expect me to dish out 7% of my precious (little) income just for a lousy piece of software? Or 0.6% for only a single CD, most of whose songs are crap?
          But, offer an economically viable, legal option, and the vast majority will go for it. And I already have: Kaspersky and Norton sell official (single user) antivirus here for $10. Result? We have nearly-zero pirated versions of their stuff now. Props to whoever thought that up….

        • Tashfin C

          Agreed. My annual salary here in Bangladesh is approx $3000, and we don’t have your fancy-shmancy stock options, unemployment benefits, Social Security, healthcare or insurance either. My frigging house is probably worse-off than one of your minimum-security joints. Annual taxi (think tuk-tuk) fare alone would cost about $800, and food another $800 more, and that too only if I eat el cheapo and not go to a single McDonalds-level restaurant all year long. Do you, in all honesty, seriously expect me to dish out 7% of my precious (little) income just for a lousy piece of software? Or 0.6% for only a single CD, most of whose songs are crap?
          But, offer an economically viable, legal option, and the vast majority will go for it. And I already have: Kaspersky and Norton sell official (single user) antivirus here for $10. Result? We have nearly-zero pirated versions of their stuff now. Props to whoever thought that up….

        • Acheron

          No, thats absolute bullshit.
          If we WANTED it to be like China’s, we’d let bills such as the IP-Protect Act to pass, and let our government control what we can & can not do.

          Go shave your legs, hippie.

      • Envelope

        Should we troll their mailboxes or what? I’m down for that.

    • hikaricore

      Or shot by them..

  • Djxedxd

    So in other words they would like to handles this like a dictatorship No Law not like a democracy and actually be able to have someone watch over them ………. They’ll be lying thru there teeth .
    THE MAN: Ya court we know this websites called Knitting And Pottery.com but it has copyrighted stuff on it can we shut it down.
    THE COURT : Ya whatever we don’t wanna be bothered by you every time just do it!

  • Dominick

    QuadSlacker : I totally agree with you there.

  • SLB20041

    Senator Wyden has just put a hold on the PROTECT IP ACT.

  • no one

    Well, back to irc…

  • Anon

    What if these internet companies pulled the “lobbying” money they have been giving these politicians, and instead used it to actively oppose them and establish “realistic” copyright reform.

  • Alyssa Blindy

    I know this sounds absolutely silly, but why can’t we just be peaceful? Why must we care so much about value, economic value, which is all an illusion in itself? Anything that is able to be copied has no true, value. It does however, have personal value which is a subjective measure; how much is something worth to you? Then, it has this thing we call economic value, which we have created ourselves. Other animals and creatures live without any form of money, yet we, as humans, always need this money, this thing that only has an illusion of value, and yet has no personal value except for that value which it has because we need it to get food, water, and whatever. If we were to try to use it in a natural environment with no other people, it would have absolutely no way of working because we made up the value. It gets ridiculous after a while.
    I feel sick from this. I actually just contacted my senator. I don’t care if it was a waste of time; the typing at least got my views expressed a bit. I did, however, censor my views, lol. Said that the only reason I don’t want it to pass is because basically, it will cause many false accusations of people, like in the 1950′s, when everyone was being accused of communism or the 1700s when everyone was accused of witchcraft.
    Remember, history repeats itself.
    We need to put this to a stop.

  • Zzzzzz

    And when it doesn’t cut piracy, what then?

    • TerribleTony

      Three-strikes policy. It’s coming. Then only us technically minded people will be able to carry on. Normal folk will just have to return to “watch it when we say and consume the adverts TV and cinema”.

      Don’t worry, there are ways around all of this. They can censor Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc. But it just means that other more free countries get a chance to be the innovators.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        Actually given the ease of bypassing such “restrictions” the people don’t have to be more technically-minded than checking a tick box and installing a suitable plugin.

        Most VPN’s today have solutions very close to idiot-proof.

        • Tashfin C

          Sigh.
          I can see that IPv6 will soon run out of addresses just like IPv4 did.

    • 4ChanStrangler

      How about when it does?

      Will you fools finally shut up and stop acting like spoiled, entitled 5 year olds?

      • Tashfin C

        How about when Sarah Palin joins the US Communist Party?

        You might think the “fools” will have “finally shut up”, but they’ll be on an entirely different, encrypted and corporate-suit-free internet altogether.

    • Anonymous

      Walk down this path and soon enough they will scan your eyeballs, fingerprints, other biometric data and do a DNA sample every time you connect to the Internet.

      Do any act disapproved by anyone and a fine will be in the mail the next morning with automatic deduction from your wages.

      Visit the wrong website like TPB then your Internet Connection will be terminated for 1 hour, second offense 1 day and third offense 1 month.

      The black market now involves body parts and ID cards from the recently deceased.

      Governments and the entertainment industry now fight the military class encrypted Web 3.0. Normal people are banned access to Web 3.0 when this would violate the Internet monitoring law against Terrorists, Pirates and other bad people. So only hackers can access uncensored Web 3.0 along with patrons to new class of underground speakeasy black Internet cafes.

      Today is the first day we begin to walk this path.

  • Zzzzzz

    I would like to thank the Judiciary Committee for their cooperation, your suitcases full of cash can be found in the usual place.

  • Guest

    if we can’t shut down terrorist websites, then we cant shutdown torrent sites

  • Tiger97a

    the ones pushing this are gurante jobs with soebody else if they don’t get elected and/or have been given gifts of cash or something by their exbuddy the former senator dodd. i say if they pass it lets boycott all music and movies till they give in, all it would take is for nobody not to buy the first dam thing for a month. i say again lets make them have to take a lie detector test to prove they are not being bribed by the mpaa or somebody like that, whats the differance between a border guard turning his head or them!!! nothing at all.

    • dlj

      There are some of us whom have been boycotting them for years, and we find sad that every time that something even more draconian is about to pass people say “let’s boycott them if this pass”.

      How bad are things really going to get before people, at least informed people, starts actually doing it. If readers of torrentfreak.com are not already doing it after everything that has been posted here over the years, does anybody realistically thinks that the rest of the people is every going to do it in a large enough number to make them notice our disgust for their treatment of internet and their customers.

      I am just sad to continue reading about their record profits year after year after year…

      On a different note, we need search engines, payment processors and ad-networks that operate outside USA. Heck, I am looking for a good hosting provider located outside USA to move some sites this year. It’s a shame that I live in a country with one of the worst communications infrastructure (and that I am poor of course) or I would start working in something myself.

  • fuck the Illuminati

    TIRANY and CORRUPTION

    FUCK the NEW WORLD ORDER

    • Pedant

      *TYRANNY

      • fuck the New World Order

        thanks :)

        • Ugly American

          *NEW WEB ORDER ;-)

    • Vainglorious

      “TIRANY”

      Good stripper stage name.

  • Sammy1234

    I strongly disagreed with the actions on annonymous and 4chan, and frankly veiwed them as internet pests.
    Now I realise that I was wrong, that governments accross the western world prefer to cencor and use bullying tactics instead of looking at new ways to deal with the internet revolution.
    There is a war going on and the firt weapon of mass destruction has passed today. Its time to fight by any means necceccary. Its time to take the battle to them, we HAVE to hit back in any way we can. The net is NOT a buisness, its NOT for capitalist governments and buisnesses to make a profit, thats not how it should be used and it should not be restricted. Protect the internet now before its too late.

  • Sammy1234

    I strongly disagreed with the actions on annonymous and 4chan, and frankly veiwed them as internet pests.
    Now I realise that I was wrong, that governments accross the western world prefer to cencor and use bullying tactics instead of looking at new ways to deal with the internet revolution.
    There is a war going on and the firt weapon of mass destruction has passed today. Its time to fight by any means necceccary. Its time to take the battle to them, we HAVE to hit back in any way we can. The net is NOT a buisness, its NOT for capitalist governments and buisnesses to make a profit, thats not how it should be used and it should not be restricted. Protect the internet now before its too late.

    • I’m_kinda_scared

      Thanks to the work of Annonymous and the exposure of that Garywhatshisname company who’s hacked emails revealed details of scripts designed to be undetectable and to sit on peoples computers relaying all information about the user we can enjoy being the people in control of our own computers.
      If any of us had been caught with such scripts we’d have expected jail terms but not that company, they just skulked off ..keep up your very important work annonymous, our very own Internet angels.

    • http://Androidized.com Lucian Armasu

      The Anonymous are the ones truly able to speak up against the un-representative Governments. Can’t you see the republicans and democrats are the same? They all vote for the same draconian laws equally. What will a new election change, especially when the laws there favor mostly the 2 parties from what I heard?

      Since most Americans don’t know any better or aren’t very willing to go in streets and protest against laws like these, Anonymous is pretty much the last resort. We can only hope they protest in the most responsible way they can without affecting the people much in the process.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jordan.kratz Jordan Kratz

    I am glad he put a hold on this piece of krap bill.And I was just talking with my lawyer today about this bill and tol him to look into it.Yesterday I called up all reps in Maine where I live to complain about this bill and state the following:

    1st point: I am a long time artist who has played in bands since 1972 and my big meat hammer band is maine’s oldest punk band.i formed it in 1989.i grew up around boston and was a part of its original 1970′s punk scene.i have pput out over 6 lp’s and have no desire ever to sign with any big labels.i am INDIE and love it

    2nd point: i am freely sharing my art on TPB & public trackers.this is my way of advertising and the way of 1,000′s of other musical acts that are INDIE.

    3rd point: i am sharing more than one band i played in freely.big meat hammer,the gorehounds,the transplants,and the lynn rebels

    4th point: censoring the internet will hurt me and my abaility to promote my art as well as hurt 1,000′s of other bands or artists who do the same thing i do

    5th point: if this bill passes i will have my lawyer and contact the ACLU and i will put togerther a nice big lawsuit.a ton of bands know me and have known of me for years.some call me the grand-dad punker since i was there at the beginning.

    today i told my lawyer even if we could not win a case like this we should do it anywyas for the press coverage to make the big greedy asshole MAFIAA look even worse than they already look.

    • Nate

      The new bill won’t bill stop you or any other band from sharing their work. Are you dense?

      • Anonymous

        It will however very likely reduce his choice of distribution platforms and market-exposure once nobody in the USA can access TPB (for instance).

        • Ven

          The question is whether or not he will get more exposure now that he is no longer drowned out in a sea of freely-distributed pirated music.

          I’m going to assume that he will.

        • Ven

          The question is whether or not he will get more exposure now that he is no longer drowned out in a sea of freely-distributed pirated music.

          I’m going to assume that he will.

    • I am a sausage not a hotdog

      Amen to you brother!!

  • Anonymous

    So what will Happen if this bill passes and Google decides to tell The Gov to go fuck itself and refuses to censor ? I smell a war brewing and it isnt going to be nice.

    • Anonymous

      I am sure most people would say Google should just relocate overseas. They already have a large operation in Ireland.

      A better point of view is we are in a War and the only place to fight is where the battle is. Google would need to try and remain legal while conducting lobbying and some long court cases.

      So they won’t be telling the US Government to go fcuk itself.

  • TimeIris

    This IS the new business model of the 21st century.
    NO government in the world wants free ‘anything’ on here.
    Has nobody heard the pirates call for ‘Freedom’? Has nobody understood?
    Why is it people only wake up to the reality of things when it’s too late?

    Fuck ‘em. I’m for going Dark. Let the world die in ingnorance.

  • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

    I can think of at least a few websites that are distributing my stolen artwork, so will they shut those down? Nope. This is all about Hollywood, I’d gather.

    • dlj

      Well, you can always bribe, I’m sorry, lobby your politicians. If you have enough money, they will shut those down.

      • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

        Yup, it’s absolutely bribery/ corruption. Justice my ass; it’s pure thuggery here in America.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    Reading this article, on the much bribed/lobbied USgov going for the nuclear option bought images into my head of the scene in INDEPENDANCE DAY where they try to nuke the spaceship over LA.

    As in the movie when the dust starts to clear they see the spaceship still there without a dent. In this case Piratebay.
    Hollywood has been reading and believing too many of their own scripts if they think this will have a happy ending for them.

    • Glowerous

      The sad part is, my friend, that someday, somehow, TPB will fall.
      It is inevitable. Corruption knows no bounds.
      They are fighting the tyranny of law-makers and not simply lawyers.

      If the law that protected TPB yesterday is not convenient for the government then the government will change the law. This is why law is more corrupt than the most corrupt individual. Law contains neither substance nor respect.

      • Meh

        And when it does, 10 more each more powerful than the last will arise. If TPB is so strong now, it’s successors will be invincible.

      • Neo

        Inevitability huh mr, Smith? That is a conclusion you can only reach if you can’t see the matrix…

  • I’m_kinda_scared

    Simply put this should not be affecting anyone outside of the US, if the US Government wants to start seizing domains they should stick to their own jurisdiction i.e their own poxy country. I think it’s high time an online petition was started kindly TELLING those monkeys
    1:Stop bombing the fuk out of everyone and plundering natural resources that don’t belong to you.
    2: If you don’t like how the internets being run in other countries mind your own fuking business.
    3. Stop trying to run the world.

    Greedy Cnuts

    • Frank

      It probably will affect other countries though. If all the major torrent sites are censored by the US government, we’ll lose all the seeds and leeches from them. While there will always be other ways to access the sites, the majority will still be lost, rendering many torrents uselss.

      • dlj

        In addition to what Frank said, the search engines, payment processors and main ad-networks are located in the US, it will affect the rest of the world.

        • Donotreply

          At least until they relocate their websites out of the US; big business earners like those won’t close their doors and stop the gravy train so long as a non US censored internet is available.

        • Tashfin C

          Yeah, we’d better have enough stuff saved up for the downtime that’ll ensue. What’s worrying is that the EU is aping those lobotomized beastmen in DC; they’re just making the inevitable more painful.

        • Ven

          Doing so can result in the suspension of your business here in the States (not necessarily limited to your website). So there are some places that will move overseas, but the big business isn’t going to ignore the entire U.S. market just to keep their sites uncensored.

        • Anonymous

          No it just means we will become the major ad-networks. The USA is just disconnecting itself, have fun there by yourself. When nations like Brazil and India come out of their dark ages you are history.

  • Anonymous

    The More this shit happens the more I believe in conspiracies relating to the New World Order

  • Oneman

    “payment processors to stop providing services to the website in question.”

    Bitcoin will be there, usa is just digging is own grave.

    • Glowerous

      Let us hope so. We can all only wish they dig it faster.
      The waiting for the collapse is interminable.

  • Obama bin Laden

    But… but… the economy… the jobs… THE TERRORISTS!

    Land of the Oppressed USA USA!

    • Glowerous

      What is a ‘terrorist’?

      The free online dictionary defines it as:

      ‘An individual who uses violence, terror, and intimidation to achieve a result.’

      …but, isn’t this exactly what our governments are doing?

    • Glowerous

      What is a ‘terrorist’?

      The free online dictionary defines it as:

      ‘An individual who uses violence, terror, and intimidation to achieve a result.’

      …but, isn’t this exactly what our governments are doing?

    • Glowerous

      What is a ‘terrorist’?

      The free online dictionary defines it as:

      ‘An individual who uses violence, terror, and intimidation to achieve a result.’

      …but, isn’t this exactly what our governments are doing?

    • Napalmic

      America and the West create terrorists…how else could they justify defense expenditure? You’ll notice that whenever defense cuts are mentioned…we go and justify bombing some tinpot nation into oblivion.

      Funny how despite all the atrocities, inhumane acts, and corruption, we never once bombed Russia. It’s a farce.

      • http://Androidized.com Lucian Armasu

        Don’t you have like 25% of the GDP going to Defense? I find that totally ridiculous. Maybe US economy does need to collapse so they can finally make the necessary changes to their economy.

        • Ven

          It’s the business model. We have (arguably) the strongest military on the planet, so it makes sense to invest in maintaining that strength. But say for a country struggling to get in or stay in the EU, that kind of spending is useless when it isn’t going to change your diplomatic leverage any.

    • Napalmic

      America and the West create terrorists…how else could they justify defense expenditure? You’ll notice that whenever defense cuts are mentioned…we go and justify bombing some tinpot nation into oblivion.

      Funny how despite all the atrocities, inhumane acts, and corruption, we never once bombed Russia. It’s a farce.

  • Guest191

    If it passes, it will just show how powerless not only Google, Yahoo, AOL are, but also American people. If someone attempted to pass a bill like this in Europe, there would be rioting and angry mobs. :D Just look how people reacted to the idea of a “European Firewall”. Thrown straight out and spat back in the face of the MAFIAA.

    What’s shocking, for all the boasting Americans do about their freedoms, is that they’ve taken them for granted and are now sitting back and letting this happen. :(

    • StevO

      Im not “letting” anything happen. Im about as helpless as anyone else. All I can do is not spend any money on movies or music.

      • Anonymous

        You can do so much more. You just aren’t doing it, and you know it. Have you gone up and talked to them? Protested? Spread flyers? Formed a lobby group? Or any of the other things you could have joined up with? In my eyes that means you let this happen.

    • StevO

      Im not “letting” anything happen. Im about as helpless as anyone else. All I can do is not spend any money on movies or music.

    • http://Androidized.com Lucian Armasu

      I’m sure the moment they start rioting, something “dangerous” will happen to USA, and they’ll use it as an excuse to justify their actions and introduce even more draconian laws.

  • Guest
    • Anonymous

      Wow, lol. 30,000 seeds… I had 15 Megabyte/s download speed on that torrent. How do i get my frame anyway?

  • Foff

    What will this accomplish besides affecting free speech? Domains of 99% of any pirate related site have moved. Any block will be easily side stepped. I think it will become a foreign relations nightmare if we start to seize domains of non-us based sites.

    Whatever happens when it comes to tech most laws are weak. I have a feeling that most of the powers granted by this legislation will be obsolete soon after the law passes if it ever does.

    Since the government is almost broke I wonder where the funds will come from to enforce this, as if there aren’t more important things to fund.

    This just goes to show how corrupt and corporate the government is. With all the current problems the waste time on this s h i t?

    • http://Androidized.com Lucian Armasu

      Haven’t you heard? They are cutting the $30m dollar funds for data.gov and other related government transparency sites. Not only is that a ridiculous move because such transparency helped them save billions of dollars that wouldn’t be wasted or stolen anymore, but now they’ll use that money for stuff like this.

  • Anonymous

    If this passes everyone should spam the fax machines of those responsible

  • Mr.Afghanistan

    Really !!!! Now this is complete bullsh!t.
    Someone should stop this Sh!t before this become law. because this sh!t makes no sense to me.

    Many sites will go down, first priority will be: vkontakte.ru which hosts all Music and zaycev.net which gives free music world wide and youtube which have million copyright videos and 1000 other video sites which are streaming music and video.

    If this passes, within 2-3 year 80% internet popular sites will be go down no matter they are legal or illegal because industries will misuse the tools and law and i don’t think internet will be useful anymore.

    Personally myself i won’t rent 30Mbit connection for 70$/month just to check my emails. I better shut down my internet and continue my normal life without internet.

    I hate censorship and i hate the way America is listening to bribed Senators.

    US citizens, please contact your Senator and inform them about this Sh!t going on and ask them to vote against this Sh!t ASAP else it will be a complete mess !!!!!!!!!!!

  • MPAA

    MPAA RIAA: “WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL….WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL…”

  • StevO

    OK Screw in the internet. Now we get the media based content that they have always wanted. ALL COMMERCIALS ALL THE TIME.

  • Anonymous

    We need to make sure everyone knows of alternatives to beat censorship

    • Spock

      And…………you dont bother to list them??
      You have a solution?? LETS HERE IT!!

  • StevO

    Oh by the way. IT was nice know you all. Unfortunately Torrent Freak is a mouthpiece for new software and Pirate news. The first Troll to post a link to a piratesite and its bye bye TF. See how that works out for the new law? Hell we can go to forums everywhere and post a link and the site is gone. Now forums will have to be 24/7 minute by minute monitored. Every blog, every facebook account. Every utube video and comment. Hell i can go personally shut down youtube by pasting a link in a comment box. LOL what a bunch of retards the mpaa and riaa. Do they even consider the work its going to be for site owners. Does any of this make sense?!?

    • Glowerous

      It makes sense. It keeps them in jobs forever.
      When the economy is flat and busted it’s time to find a new revenue stream.
      The internet is the only worldwide resource that is actually growing.
      Get into that, whatever it costs the individual, and you’re set for life…especially if you can get the law on your side. Yes, it makes total sense.

  • Anon

    Just another way that the government is infringing on our right to free speech.

  • Anonymous

    The United States is becoming a Fascist state, run by business and controlled by Government. There are no lines of division between the two, with the government controlling business and business controlling government. Congress is but a theatre of showmen, elected by the people but subservant to business.

    • Dooby

      “The United States has become a Fascist state, run by business and controlled by Government.”

      There, fixed that for you.

    • Dooby

      “The United States has become a Fascist state, run by business and controlled by Government.”

      There, fixed that for you.

      • Tashfin C

        For starters, you might want to get rid of that ridiculous travesty called the “Electoral College” and go for direct, popular voting.

  • anon=coward

    This is really a last resort. If the tech community actually put some effort into protecting intellectual property, we wouldn’t have this legislation in the first place. I place the blame for this legislation where it rightly belongs – on the Google’s and Yahoo’s of the world, not the MPAAs and RIAAs of the world. Do you really expect content owners not protect their own interests? If you expect the MPAA and RIAA to abandon their own interests, you are as naive as they come.

    • Anonymous

      Im all for them being allowed to protect their assets but when they claim record profits year after year and claim hardship and refuse to meet the demands of the consumer then ya screw them

      • dlj

        Not to mention when they steal the public domain of our entire generation.

    • Dooby

      Hello Jack Murdock

    • Dooby

      Hello Jack Murdock

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      “If the tech community actually put some effort into protecting intellectual property…”

      The tech community can’t do that. It’s that simple. If protecting intellectual property was in fact possible then SONY, Microsoft or Apple would have done so years ago.

      If people can communicate at all then it is possible for them to communicate copies of files to one another. That’s all.

      Hence you could gather every last genius employed in IT and have them try to rebuild the entire internet…and filesharing would just resume as if nothing happened, simply because it is still possible to push bits and zeroes across the cable. Additionally the system would mainly punish only those who followed the rules (much as with ordinary DRM) so the circumvention systems used by pirates would very rapidly become the standard.

      Technological progress is by it’s very nature the perfect antithesis to the information distribution restrictions. Your opinions won’t change that, nor will laws or politics.

    • Tashfin C

      Do you know that an artist makes at most $1.0 from a CD sold? And that said CD probably costs about a quarter to make?

      Did the railroads and shipping lines sue the airline industry, or move the US govt, to “protect their interests”?? Wouldn’t you agree that they lost shitloads of passengers and freight and actually did go through seven levels of hell when the era of commercial airliners came about? They had real physical, as in bricks-metal-&-mortar physical, assets too, unless I’m mistaken. Why didn’t horse-sellers all over Europe sue James Watt for his steam engine, and Otto for his internal combustion one?? And why didn’t the US Postal Department sue e-mail services??? Why didn’t the wired telephone companies sue the cellular providers? Why don’t AT&T, Verizon and the various Bells sue Skype?

      They were/are probably even MORE naive than they come, right?

  • Revolution

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    • Dooby

      No, just eat the rich. This is class war!

    • Wer

      Grow up, Kid.

    • Wer

      Grow up, Kid.

  • Dooby

    The Great Firewall of the USA. Who’d have thought it in the self-proclaimed ‘land of the free’ eh?

  • Phil Landry

    Welcome to China!

    • Anonymous

      Better stock up on the rice and noodles then.

  • Anonymous

    “It is with great reluctance that I have agreed to this calling. I love democracy. I love the Republic. The powers you give me I will lay down when this crisis has been abated! My first act, with this new authority, is to create a Grand Army of the Republic, to counter the increasing threat of the Separatists

  • Anonymous

    The Filthy Pirate rebellion has been foiled. The remaining Pirates will be hunted down and defeated! The attempt on our great Industry has left us scarred… and deformed, but I assure you, Our resolve has never been stronger! In order to ensure the security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the First Galactic Empire! For a safe, and secure society.”

  • Haxor

    Another one got caught today, it’s all over the papers. “Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal”, “Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering”…

    Damn kids. They’re all alike.

    But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950′s technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him?

    I am a hacker, enter my world…

    Mine is a world that begins with school… I’m smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me…

    Damn underachiever. They’re all alike.

    I’m in junior high or high school. I’ve listened to teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. “No, Ms. Smith, I didn’t show my work. I did it in my head…”

    Damn kid. Probably copied it. They’re all alike.

    I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it’s because I screwed it up. Not because it doesn’t like me… Or feels threatened by me.. Or thinks I’m a smart ass.. Or doesn’t like teaching and shouldn’t be here…

    Damn kid. All he does is play games. They’re all alike.

    And then it happened… a door opened to a world… rushing through the phone line like heroin through an addict’s veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought… a board is found. “This is it… this is where I belong…” I know everyone here… even if I’ve never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again… I know you all…

    Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They’re all alike…

    You bet your ass we’re all alike… we’ve been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak… the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We’ve been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.

    This is our world now… the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn’t run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore… and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge… and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias… and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it’s for our own good, yet we’re the criminals.

    Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.

    I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can’t stop us all… after all, we’re all alike.

    • Frog

      Feel better to have that off your chest? Yes? Alright, now I want you to do something; get down off your cross, use the wood to build a bridge, and get over it. You aren’t that special or unique; none of us writing here are. Not me, not trolls like Jack, and not you. The world may suck, but you aren’t making a great stand here. You’re using the wrongdoings of the world to justify your behavior. If you’re going to defend piracy, at least have the balls to defend your beliefs on their own merits, not just scapegoat the political and top economic classes. You aren’t writing a manifesto, you’re just using the success and strength of the upper class and the average conditions you’ve lived through as ways to justify your behavior. A manifesto would defend piracy or filesharing by its inherent value, not by blaming others, and particularly not by relying on the establishment of all who disagree with you as racists or perpetrators of violence.

      • Anonymous

        “get down off your cross, use the wood to build a bridge, and get over it.”

        Did you get that from Christopher Titus’ stand-up? Lol. I’ve never heard anyone use that besides him. Very interesting though.

        • Frog

          Yes, I did. I’m so glad someone recognized it. I’ve honestly just been looking for a good opportunity to use that line. That probably motivated my post more than anything else.

        • Anonymous

          Lol. I know the feeling, I too have been itching for the opportunity say that same thing ever since I first heard him say it. It’s one of those “this is too good not to use” type of quotes. A well earned +1/Like to both your comments. One for using the quote, one for the honesty.

      • dethwsh

        Dude. He didn’t write that. That’s a very well known manifesto. I would suggest some light reading.

        • Frog

          I was not aware. I did look at his post history and I saw a bit of a discrepancy between this post and his history. I’d probably have wanted to say this to that writer as well, so I’ll stick by my post.

          Upon further research, I see that this is often attributed to a man named Loyd Blankenship, (at the very least, I’ve seen 3 sites that attribute it to him.), who wrote it shortly after being arrested for being involved in malicious groups that were believed to have used hacking to damage the public infrastructure (mainly phone networks from what I understand), and other people’s computers. In this case, I would say that this manifesto was just an attempt at image rehabilitation. It may ring true for others, but I would doubt him. I think I’ll stick by my comment. This new knowledge is important, but it doesn’t really change my criticism.

        • dethwsh

          “believed to have used hacking to damage the public infrastructure”

          Believed, being the key word here. No proof was ever found, released or otherwise. He was a threat, not because he allegedly broken into something important, or illegal. He wanted information, something that is inherently free and something our government wishes to be kept THEIR secret. Information is something you obviously lack, so here…

          “The meaning of Hack”
          http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html

          “The ethics of hacking by dissident”
          http://forum.intern0t.net/general-hacking-discussions/2755-ethics-hacking-dissident.html

          Knowing is half the battle.

        • Frog

          From what I’ve read today, it’s not quite that simple. He was a member of groups like the Legion of Doom and Extasyy Elite. These groups, while not explicitly criminal in and of themselves, did teach and aid members who stole information and reprogrammed computers. They didn’t exist solely for the propagation of information, they actually did cause harm to others. Part of what they did was propagation and preservation of information, but some of their members were harmful, and this man does not seem to be disassociated from that.

          I’d agree that the message people try to take from him is good, but that doesn’t mean that we can ignore what he actually did.

      • Anonymous

        Haha, thnx for saving me the trouble of typing something similar.
        and @haxor if you are that good, build the tech that makes it impossible for any legislation to ever stop free information. That is when you prove them wrong. That is how you take their power away from them. That is when the people win.

  • anon

    update on this wyden same guy who stopped coica is stopping this one
    http://activepolitic.com:82/Outside_News/4614.html

  • Vulcon

    The Hypocrisy of the US gov trying to suggest that the proposed Australian ip blacklist to child porn and refused classification sites was contrary to net neutrality.

  • Vulcon

    The Hypocrisy of the US gov trying to suggest that the proposed Australian ip blacklist to child porn and refused classification sites was contrary to net neutrality.

  • http://twitter.com/electrotech555 Austin L

    This will break a new hole in the wall of free speech and totally make my rage towards the riaa, mpaa, and all the bs record companies sky rocket! America can’t take this! Music is cultural and most importantly freedom is being able to uphold free speech and more importantly the constitution. If there is a time to be worried it is now we need to fight harder than ever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=754363628 Neil McCormick

    Land of the free – and home of the brave – YEAH RIGHT!!!

    Good luck with future generations having the freedoms their forefathers were fighting for and here in New Zealand our government will blindly follow what the US of A does.

    • StevO

      And the future generations blindly follow what the industry sells them! Look at all the techno BS phones and garbage they resell over and over. 3 years ago they were bragging about how small the phones were, now they are bragging about how big they are. 3G 4G 5G it never ends!! oh look our phone can browse the web AND talk on phone at the same time!! OMG!! why didnt they do that in the first place!! People are stupid drones and the industry knows it. Its just the Pirates are the smart ones and they are putting a “fix” on that if they can.

  • http://openid.claimid.com/jdehnert James Dehnert Sr
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  • Snorkie

    wow the usa sure is a crappy country…i’m glad i don’t live there

  • Diacetyl

    Fuck America.

    I have a suspicious feeling that this is the first step in a series of laws to chip away at more and more of our freedoms. Sort of a corner stone before they start censoring the internet and even our everyday lives.

    I’ve had enough of my life stolen from me by a corrupt legal system, This bill is going to lead to nothing but a power grab by the federal government over control of our daily lives.

  • Citizenhero

    It does not matter if it passes.

    There are so many ways to circumnavigate these kinds of restrictions it is ridiculous, You can easily connect to a foreign computer first, then do all your internet browsing, virtually from a different a country.

    Don’t ever think these people have control. They don’t.

    • Diacetyl

      The things is you shouldn’t have to do that in the first place.

      • Citizenhero

        Yeah however, on one hand the pirate sites will be banned, and on the other hand those with the skills and desire to do so, will still have free speech, so both sides win.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

          NO! TF readers may be tech savvy, but vast numbers of ordinary internet users aren’t. Their right to free speech is under threat,… AGAIN!

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          Take a look at China for the best comparison. Dissidents, pirates and academicians know their own nations history.

          John Q Chinese Doe doesn’t have a clue about the massacre on Tiananmen square (1000+ deaths when the army rolled up tanks against a million demonstrators).

          That and nothing else is why stuff like this threatens freedom.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

    There is actually a HUGE opportunity here if someone has the balls to grab it.
    A country in Africa or Asia, that does not depend on American aid and/or trade could set up as a world internet hub.
    They would have alternative domains, say .con or even .cum, that could not be taken down by American actions. They would have servers that could not be raided by the MAFIAA and police.

    Sorry for you Americans who would find many of these sites blocked, but you could still access them through VPNs or whatever.
    Either Google etc would have to relocate entirely to this country, severing links with the USA; or a new search engine giant would emerge in this country.
    TPB Isohunt etc could relocate there and be legally protected from harassment.

    Strangely enough, Iceland has been exploring the idea of enacting laws to protect the press and whistleblowers. But as all their trunk cables go to North America and Europe, I fear they would be vulnerable to attack by the US and probably at least some European countries.

    Will my idea happen? Almost certainly not as I’ve described it. But we are already seeing American sites taking up non US domains and hosts. The US internet community wil lose out as more companies leave the sinking ship.l

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

    There is actually a HUGE opportunity here if someone has the balls to grab it.
    A country in Africa or Asia, that does not depend on American aid and/or trade could set up as a world internet hub.
    They would have alternative domains, say .con or even .cum, that could not be taken down by American actions. They would have servers that could not be raided by the MAFIAA and police.

    Sorry for you Americans who would find many of these sites blocked, but you could still access them through VPNs or whatever.
    Either Google etc would have to relocate entirely to this country, severing links with the USA; or a new search engine giant would emerge in this country.
    TPB Isohunt etc could relocate there and be legally protected from harassment.

    Strangely enough, Iceland has been exploring the idea of enacting laws to protect the press and whistleblowers. But as all their trunk cables go to North America and Europe, I fear they would be vulnerable to attack by the US and probably at least some European countries.

    Will my idea happen? Almost certainly not as I’ve described it. But we are already seeing American sites taking up non US domains and hosts. The US internet community wil lose out as more companies leave the sinking ship.l

    • DocTemp

      The Americans would virus attack it like they did the Iranian reactor program
      or invade it on some rediculous trumped up issue and carry the servers home in warships. Stupid, barbaric nation.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah that is what Sweden used to be. Look at what the US did to them.

    • Tashfin C

      That is actually a cracking idea. Pity that Bangladesh is a tad too disaster-prone to qualify as a candidate, even if the govt actually did have a pair T-T

      The USA will inadvertently spawn the inter-internet, and IPv6 will need replacing real fast. Virus attacts will only create evolving resilience. Uncle Sam really would have to put boots on the ground if they’d want to actually stop them.

  • Amit

    I think this will affect only the US… Anyways there is MAFIAA Fire and other ways to get around this… Lets see how it goes…

  • Amit

    I think this will affect only the US… Anyways there is MAFIAA Fire and other ways to get around this… Lets see how it goes…

  • getoffayaweebassa

    They are just moving the porn magazines further up to the top shelf. imperialist american policies drive business elsewhere. that is capitalism. the economy is so bad that this may just get through and if it does there will be a massive exodus from .com and .org. bad days indeed

    • Donotreply

      The dot com bust will look like a fire cracker compared to the nuke they’d launch were this to pass into law.

  • Snorkie

    someone should nuke the usa…then completely pave it over, turning it into parking space for mexico and canada…problem solved

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HRDKBPV75TOYX7LEO4E6WZRJYQ rootr

      Should nuke mexico too, just because.

      • sithrebel

        exactly.

    • Acheron

      No. Somebody should kill all the people that are against file sharing & the ones who are for censorship.

      Pull your head out of your ass

  • Snizzel

    Say goodbye to Google yahoo Ebay and mastercard all could just pick up and leave cuz they don’t want to be censored this country is falling apart and becoming less free this is the first step to the fall of the USA

  • Sbrazell

    It got stopped, thank god.

    • Acheron

      No, it got put on hold, not stopped.

  • Freedom’s Ban Hammer

    The Great Firewall of USA!!!! Boooooo

  • None

    Jesus. This law is pathetic. I remember the net in the 90s and early 00s, there was no ballshit like this.

  • None

    Jesus. This law is pathetic. I remember the net in the 90s and early 00s, there was no ballshit like this.

  • caspersjoy
  • Trelew

    Another lost for the average person and another win for corporations. This is a law that only serves the greed and power of corporations. The corporate elite with get richer as people get poorer. It won’t stop there….anything that goes against the corporate or political agenda will get stomped on….say goodbye to freedom of speech & expression. America has already lost a good number of civil liberties with the creation of Homeland Security. Welcome to society’s downward slide

  • Changeling

    I don’t see how this bill will affect the vast majority of legitimate users like me who stay on the right side of the law. It will only affect those who like to steal and use the net for illegal activities. If anything, this bill is a step in the right direction. If we have a right to protect our physical properties, then copyright holders have a right to protect their intellectual properties as well, otherwise its double standards.

    If this bill is going to censor torrent and warez sites only, how is this affecting “free speech” exactly? People like me who pay for their entertainment and digital products would never need to visit these illegal sites in the first place, so nothing changes…life goes on as usual.

    Legal sites don’t have anything to worry about either. They can continue to operate under US domain and hosting.

    All this talk about greed and evil corporates is quite laughable when many of you here probably hold corporate office desk jobs and anyone running a business knows its always about maximizing your profit by whatever means necessary. I can hardly blame the RIAA/MPAA for trying to protect their stuff. If you were in the entertainment industry and your livelihood depended on it, you would also do the same. Its when some issue directly affects you, do you raise your voice against it.

    • Insightful

      Nicely put. I would’nt even call you a troll, though many here would.

      Nobody disputes the right to a company to protect it’s assets.
      What the pirate community objects to is the that laws are usually written on cases won on the burden of proof. Also it is (should be) a democratic right to be able to defend both oneself and ones actions in court, with the right for redress.

      What is being objected to in this scenario is that the very fabric of the democratic ideal is being torn assunder. Consider; when a company as large as Google is prepared to stand up and shout ‘Censorship!’, then it is time to take notice.

      The various political parties are advovating that due process be ignored and that sites may be taken by force (servers physically removed and private data stripped) and intimidation (ISP’s under duress are made to take sites offline).

      Collusion, bribery and deceit all play there part in this and judges and politicians have election campaigns payed for, given holidays (sorry, business trips) in exotic locations, they are wined, dined and fed blatant lies.

      The point is this: as a democracy the backbone of our culture and heritage consists of the rule of law. We like to believe that it is a fair system, honest and above board. But here we see that money talks and law is as substantial as fog.
      These Hollywood carpetbaggers havn’t hardly won a case against anyone, yet laws are being passed in virtually every country of the world, simultaneously, and unremittingly. This should be suspicious in itself. Indeed, a paper was written in the UK only a few days ago warning of the consequences of adhering to the word of copyright lobbyists.

      This is not a conspiracy theory. It is not something that is happening, it has already happened. The judicial process of the world has beeen bought, and paid for by a business monopoly.

      It is a disgrace.

      • World Citizen

        Outstanding reply.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

      Changed your name again have you Jack? I mean Eric.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

        You are assuming that there is only one person out there who opposes the “free for all” model.

    • Donotreply

      ‘If this bill is going to censor torrent and warez sites only, how is this affecting “free speech” exactly?’

      Not all material hosted on these websites are copyright infringing; have a look again at the comments on this very site for ‘Jordan Kratz’ and read about how he distributes copies of his material over such services as but one example of 1,000s of independent media producers (artists, musicians, writers etc) for promotional use (adding a donate button would net them far more money than any big media label would ever pass onto them).

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      “I don’t see how this bill will affect the vast majority of legitimate users like me…”

      The ICE domain seizures affected 84000 perfectly legitimate sites who took it for granted that they wouldn’t become “collateral damage”.
      Meanwhile over half of the real targets were up on alternates within a day or two. To start with.

      The means they want to use are crude in the extreme – since the internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it, what this bill and COICA does is equivalent to carpet bombing an entire city block in order to get the single burglar living in it. Or perhaps a better comparison is to turn of the tap water for an entire city because five people aren’t paying their water bill.

      This bill will certainly affect normal people as it will make most things harder to accomplish – whereas the “pirates” already utilize technology as standard which bypasses most or all of what this bill intends to try. Just like when the copy protection on certain games kept everyone BUT the pirates with cracked versions from playing the game.

      Technology favours information distribution. That’s all there is to it.

    • StevO

      Well tbh This is the industry where they “sell” this entertainment like Nike sells shoes. Its everywhere all the time. Its the brainwashing of children and sheeple. Bahh forget it.

    • Tashfin C

      So, what would you do if someone stealth-hijacks your IP and you then get hauled into court based on a few questionable screenshots? This does happen, you know, especially on ad-hoc and credential-disabled wireless connections, neither of which are illegal, merely ill-advised.

      Or, even if things didn’t get that far, suppose you click a link which pops up to a torrent site and you then ‘get caught in the act’ at that exact moment?

      And, did you miss the line: “All without due process”??

  • ifailatliving

    ernesto the old piratebay article you linked to reminded me of how you can never get to the point of an article. you always “bury the lead”

  • Anonymous

    Thank god for Senator Ron Wyden, finally someone who acts in the best interests of CITIZENS.

  • http://www.meetcarolynblake.com/ Carolyn Elizabeth Blake

    Tell me how anyone cannot see thru this. All this hysteria over copyright is merely the smokescreen to justify handing internet freedom over to the government. Come on ACLU…do your stuff.

  • World Citizen

    I feel like crying everytime I think of how far this great country has sunken since the days of FDR and all because of selfishness, greed and corruption. I want to see a glimpse of the old land of the free and home of the brave! I know America still has it in her but somehow the core values that made this country so great got lost along the way.

    • Snorkie

      what are you talking about? the old values? “the land of the brave” never existed….a bunch of rejects came over from europe, called themselves free and brave and committing genocide on native americans and stealing their land….the end…oh wait, not the end, because karma is a biatch

      • World Citizen

        Shut up you a-hole. I know what I am talking about. Stop hating on America and it’s glorious past.

        • Expat

          it’s not about hating America it’s about realizing the truth and not being jingoistic, sure their are worser countries, but this country by no means is great or innocent. When the birthers were going on about Obama citizenship, i found it odd how none of them brought up how the Kingdom of Hawaii was overthrown and later *illegally* annexed by the USA(if they went by that fact then Hawaii isn’t a state and Obama isn’t a citizen), and then I realized it’s because American’s don’t know jack shit about it’s country and it’s history other than the mythology they teach in school and the media. Jingoism is worse IMO than religion

        • Snorkie

          bwahaha, if you can’t stand the heat…PISS OFF :D

        • Tashfin C

          I’m unsure about which “brave” the home of which you speak belongs to; perhaps a Cherokee, Apache, Sioux, Seminole or Mahican would care to elaborate on that, and the so-called “glorious past”? Why not ask them what colour the grass is for them?
          Do you know why Martin Luther King actually had to get into action and write his own, glorious life story?

          Also note that I’ve only mentioned selected ‘homegrown’ aspects of your “glorious past”.

  • http://twitter.com/ActionManage Dan Brown

    Hi,

    ” Within hours of the committee’s vote, Senator Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, said he would use a procedural move to block the measure from reaching a vote in the full Senate, saying it “takes an overreaching approach to policing the Internet.” In December, Wyden placed a hold on a similar anti-piracy bill. ”

    COOL……A ” Democrat” with some “common sense” in Government?

    Tell me it is not so… :)

    Good For Him! Let’s Hope He Can Keep It From Getting Passed By The “FULL SENATE!

    Peace To ALL!

    Have A GREAT MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND ~ PLEASE DO NOT FORGET OUR TROOPS THAT HAVE SERVED, ARE SERVING AND THEIR FAMILY’S!

    BTW: Put Your ‘FLAG” up in front of your house TODAY ~ And Let It “Fly” For At Least Three Days!

  • Anonymous

    We have the mean to protect our societies against the corporation of parasites and we have the mean to kill them all.

    All these Patrick J. Leahy, Dianne Feinstein, Orrin G. Hatch, Lindsey Graham, Al Franken and others RIAA/MPAA drones must understand that we are going to take back our government.

  • Anonymous

    Troops are fighting for our freedoms… Yeah right

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

    Those horrible people, trying to get you to pay for things! The nerve of them!

    I suppose any law that gives copyright holder any real power to protect their work would be considered draconian? When you think you have a god given right to the work of others, I suppose laws like this could seem a little evil.

    And honestly, this stuff about free speech? Guys, torrenting your favorite movie has nothing to free speech. Taking down a site that helps people get free things is no more censorship than shutting down a meth lab. All you are doing is removing an illegal distribution channel from the internet. Torrent sites are not forums where people go to discuss things or express ideas. Their pirmary function is to help people get their hands on their favorite things without having to go to the store and fork over some cash.

    People said file sharing is invinciple and it’s like a hydra. Well let’s see what happens a few weeks after this passes.

    • Mainframe Xaiver

      Again Jack you fail to explain how this affects Hollywood when they record profits year after year.

      How is suing POOR person intot he ground good for you ? what does it give you?

      AVATAR was the most downloaded film yet its also the highest grossing film of all time. Please explain this one

      • Igltiuercijk

        Q- How is suing a POOR person into the ground good for you ? what does it give you?

        A- Smiles and back slappings.

    • Ugly American

      “Those horrible people, trying to get you to pay for things!”

      Forcing you to pay what THEY decide and creating artificial scarcity = more than horrible.

      “The nerve of them!”

      I feel the same way you do – I’m just as horrified, “Jack.”

      “I suppose any law that gives copyright holder any real power to protect their work would be considered draconian?”

      If it’s based on censorship, manipulation, extortion and control, should it be considered anything else? You’re quite the wordsmith – help us out. <3

      "When you think you have a god given right to the work of others, I suppose laws like this could seem a little evil."

      When they think that they're entitled to charge what they want, when they want, as many times as they want and for however long they want, laws like this seem more than "a little evil." Draconian, if you prefer…

      "And honestly, this stuff about free speech?"

      Honestly – it's about free speech, censorship, control and outright extortion.
      See how easy it is to grasp, "Jack?"

      "Guys, torrenting your favorite movie has nothing to free speech."

      It certainly does – you can spin it any way your MAFIAA handlers tell you, but this issue has EVERYTHING to do with free speech. Period.

      "Taking down a site that helps people get free things is no more censorship than shutting down a meth lab."

      Apples and oranges – taking down any site for any reason = censorship. Plain and simple. It limits free speech and that is a fact.

      "All you are doing is removing an illegal distribution channel from the internet."

      "An illegal distribution channel" = one which is not under *control* of the MAFIAA. Control = the ability to manipulate, extort and pay shills like your very self for the diligent work which you're doing in pushing their corporate propaganda.

      "Torrent sites are not forums where people go to discuss things or express ideas."

      Hogwash – you've never seen comments under a torrent link?
      Start here: http://thepiratebay.org/

      "Their pirmary function is to help people get their hands on their favorite things without having to go to the store and fork over some cash."

      As in "try before you buy" and let the purchaser decide if it's actually worth purchasing – a pretty radical concept, I know. If one simply "forks over some cash" and your MAFIAA "product" is a piece of shit – as is usually the case – one can kiss that cash goodbye because returns = in your fvcking dreams, pal!

      "People said file sharing is invinciple and it's like a hydra."

      It is, simpleton – your MAFIAA bosses haven't a clue. You think torrents or direct links are the only means of sharing? You think "invinciple" is spelled that way? LMFAO

      "Well let's see what happens a few weeks after this passes."

      Dick will happen, "Jack" – things may slow down a bit initially but soon enough, everything will continue as usual and your MAFIAA bosses will take it in the ass. Again. And again.

      You and your corporate gangsters better stock up:
      http://www.amazon.com/Adam-Eve-Anal-Lube/dp/B000FBKBSK

      • Chuck Norris

        “Forcing you to pay what THEY decide and creating artificial scarcity = more than horrible.”

        Forcing you to pay? Who, what, when? Last time I checked, MPAA guys don’t come knocking at your door and put a gun to your head asking you to buy their movies. If you like a movie, buy it, watch it or don’t buy it and don’t watch it. Nobody is forcing anything onto you.

        “If it’s based on censorship, manipulation, extortion and control, should it be considered anything else? You’re quite the wordsmith – help us out. <3"

        They are not censoring any legit sites, nor are they harassing anyone willing to legibly purchase movies, softwares etc, the way it should be done. It's a major inconvenience for the pirates and that's about it. I mean you want to download illegally and don't want to get sued? How convenient.

        "When they think that they're entitled to charge what they want, when they want, as many times as they want and for however long they want, laws like this seem more than "a little evil." Draconian, if you prefer…"

        They own the product they can charge whatever they want. Don't like it? Don't buy it and don't use/watch their product. Nobody forced you to. Reality is whatever they charge for a movie or game title is more than fair. It's just that people are ready to pay a fortune for hardware and yet don't want to spend 1/10th of that money on software as if it doesn't take hard work to create softwares.

        "It certainly does – you can spin it any way your MAFIAA handlers tell you, but this issue has EVERYTHING to do with free speech. Period."

        Movies and games are things that fall under the "entertainment" category and not "knowledge" and "information" that needs to be pirated for the greater good of mankind. Piracy helps you get things for free which otherwise you had to pay for. That is what you like about piracy. Don't try to twist facts!

        "Apples and oranges – taking down any site for any reason = censorship. Plain and simple. It limits free speech and that is a fact."

        No it doesn't limit free speech. Taking down a site promoting illegal activities should be perfectly within the rights of the government. As Jack said, its the same as taking down a meth lab. A lab can be used to produce both legal and illegal substances just like a torrent site can be used for both legal and illegal purposes. Does it mean the government shouldn't shut down the lab for illegal activities?

        "As in "try before you buy" and let the purchaser decide if it's actually worth purchasing – a pretty radical concept, I know. If one simply "forks over some cash" and your MAFIAA "product" is a piece of shit – as is usually the case – one can kiss that cash goodbye because returns = in your fvcking dreams, pal! "

        Fair enough but the thing is most of you pirates won't simply go out of your way to buy it even if you find it to be good, after your little "trial". Some of you may actually buy it later but most won't. Fact!

        • Ugly American

          “Forcing you to pay? Who, what, when? Last time I checked, MPAA guys don’t come knocking at your door and put a gun to your head asking you to buy their movies.”

          Oh? Pay up or else = FORCE – and, as if you didn’t know, they don’t need to bother “come knocking at my door” because the law is on their side. I suppose those MAFIAA “contributions” (bribes) were a pretty shrewd “investment,” ehy? I won’t even get into the price-fixing issues, blatant abuse of copywrong, refusal to adapt / consider alternate business models and the very fact that this “industry” IS guilty of creating false scarcity. Ones and zeros aren’t “products,” pal – and the notion of intellectual “property” is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. It’s not fvcking real estate – stop forcing people to buy your garbage “entertainment.”

          “If you like a movie, buy it, watch it or don’t buy it and don’t watch it.”

          Fine – may I return your garbage-on-a-plastic-disc for a full refund if it happens to suck toad testicles? I didn’t think so…

          “Nobody is forcing anything onto you.”

          The fvck they aren’t. Any amount of money for ones and zeros = pure extortion and you know it. It’s a bloody copy, for fvck’s sake – no “pirate” is removing anything. Certainly not the MAFIAA’s record profits – which I suppose is further proof that “piracy” isn’t hurting Hollywood one bit.

          “If you like the movie…”

          Junior, how exactly would I know if I “like” it or if it’s worth my pesos? Should I cast the runes or peer deeply into my crystal ball? We all know commercials and / or trailers = full of shit. I’d have to rely solely on the creator’s plug? What studio is going to tell me, “Hey, our movie blows chunks and it’s a complete waste of your fvcking time – but heck, you should buy it anyway just for shits and giggles?” If they were that honest AND OFFERED A FULL REFUND UPON CURING MY INSOMNIA, I might buy a plastic disc – can always use it to freshen my cat’s litter box, ya know? =^.^=

          “They are not censoring any legit sites, nor are they harassing anyone willing to legibly purchase movies, softwares etc, the way it should be done.”

          “…the way it should be done” – as if ALL software is closed and requires a license from Microshit – as if everything I can download has a copywrong slapped on it – as if “legit sites” aren’t censored / harassed without any evidence whatsoever – to say nothing of due process. Who in fvck are you kidding? Under this Fascist directive, EVERY site = a potential target.

          “It’s a major inconvenience for the pirates and that’s about it.”

          Oh, I believe every word you say – now try convincing the owners of 84,000 sites:
          http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/seizures2/?akid=298.96703.stjbtj&rd=1&t=2

          So, have you made any progress? Let me know how that goes…

          “I mean you want to download illegally and don’t want to get sued? How convenient.”

          Downloading itself isn’t “illegal,” junior – how convenient indeed. I could even share erotic pictures of my farm animals with you – let me know if you possess such dubious inclinations. I’m here to please… <3

          "They own the product they can charge whatever they want."

          FINALLY, one of you shills admit that it's a monopoly and the marketplace has absolutely nothing to say – just pay, pay, pay. Too bad ones and zeros aren't a "product." Don't you just hate technology, innovation and progress? Doesn't it just make you boil to the point where your zits explode? Curse these infernal interwebs!

          "Don't like it? Don't buy it and don't use/watch their product."

          May I test your ones and zeros first, or should I be FORCED to pay for something completely worthless? Any chance for evaluating your garbage, err, "product" before I offer my pound of flesh in exchange? How about a warranty against your "product" inducing coma? Falling asleep in theaters is murder on my back – you see, I'm not that young anymore. :::sad face:::

          "Nobody forced you to."

          …except your "industry" which DEMANDS payment first – and a friendly "go fvck yourself" in the event that I'd like a refund. You gangsters have one hell of a racket going on here – Al Capone would blush. Or shoot you. I'm not sure which – I hear Italians are temperamental… <3

          "Reality is whatever they charge for a movie or game title is more than fair."

          Even $1,000,000 for one plastic disc? Ever heard of the marketplace, junior?
          Seriously, how ridiculous do you feel? More than usual or about the same?

          "It's just that people are ready to pay a fortune for hardware and yet don't want to spend 1/10th of that money on software as if it doesn't take hard work to create softwares."

          "Softwares?" That's a typical Murdock error if I ever saw one – I know, Eric, I know – you're "somebody else" hahaha… Getting back to reality, that hardware you speak of = REAL products – not some worthless crap I can share over the internets. Does it take work to create? Certainly – but you have NO RIGHT to demand whatever fee you'd like to pull out of your ass. It's a marketplace, lad – if you expect customers to pays, you accept whatever THEY decide to toss your way. This is how things work in a civilized world – you and your MAFIAA have things back asswards. Note this simple formula: (_!_) = (_!_) and stop making an ass out of yourself.

          "Movies and games are things that fall under the "entertainment" category and not "knowledge" and "information" that needs to be pirated for the greater good of mankind."

          Horseshit. Culture = Culture – and sharing only enhances it. Sharing also gives your gangsters free publicity for their worthless "products" – how else would you explain RECORD PROFITS FOR THE MOVIE "INDUSTRY" IN THE LAST FIVE CONSECUTIVE YEARS when there's so much "piracy" around? What, you missed this memo? You're not earning your fees, Eric…
          http://www.themarysue.com/mpaa-2010-stats/

          "Piracy helps you get things for free which otherwise you had to pay for."

          Pure nonsense based on the ridiculous assumption that one would necessarily pay for something if a copy were not available. Let's put it this way and use a REAL product as an example instead of ones and zeros – would Rolex lose a sale if I never intended to purchase one, but luckily found one in the street? Personally, I'd have no need for it – I can tell time by the sun. It's much prettier than that snobby piece of shit too… <3

          "That is what you like about piracy."

          What I like about sharing, Eric, is the fact that, with the aid of technology, humanity has evolved beyond dollars and cents – it's a shame that creatures like you are doing everything in your power to undue the little progress we've made as a people. Must we crawl back in the fvcking caves and crack each other upside the noggin with clubs like they did when you were young? Future generations aren't going to stand for it. In your world, everything has a price – in ours, sharing is something you just can't put a price on. Literally. Yes, you may use that – and no, I won't charge you a fee for it. Copywrong is a tool of the devil. Repent, sinner!

          "Don't try to twist facts!"

          We won't – you see, we don't work for the MAFIAA. And watch that temper – there's no need to yell. You're among friends – we love you like a fat kid loves cake… <3

          "No it doesn't limit free speech."

          Sure it does. Admit it. Be honest for a change – you'll feel better and your status as a human might not be revoked. I'll make a few phone calls…

          "Taking down a site promoting illegal activities should be perfectly within the rights of the government."

          First of all, governments HAVE NO RIGHTS – individuals DO. As a lawyer, you should know this, Eric – as far as "illegal activities" are concerned, let's not kid ourselves. I just gave you 84,000 examples why every site = a potential target.

          "As Jack said, its the same as taking down a meth lab."

          No, it's not – and we're keenly aware of what you've stated previously, "Jack."

          "A lab can be used to produce both legal and illegal substances"

          But not ones and zeros – nor is it possible to download what either lab would produce. Now do you see how wrong "Jack" (that's you, Eric) was?

          "just like a torrent site can be used for both legal and illegal purposes."

          …and I can think of (at east?) 84,000 sites which got fvcked for no reason. How many more can you find? Let's make a contest out of it – I'll give you a head start. Go!

          "Does it mean the government shouldn't shut down the lab for illegal activities?"

          I see your point – and it certainly explains why prohibition worked so well.

          "Fair enough but the thing is most of you pirates won't simply go out of your way to buy it even if you find it to be good, after your little "trial"."

          So how do you explain this?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
          http://gizmodo.com/5219587/study-finds-pirates-buy-10x-more-music-online-than-non+pirates

          "Some of you may actually buy it later but most won't. Fact!"

          It's not a "fact" but an assumption. Fact – as that study clearly demonstrates.

    • Trespass

      Just what are you expecting to happen, Jack? Whatever technology will be countered. Any sites removed will resurface. People are becoming savvy about using vpns and proxys.

      Opposition to the bill is snowballing: Google, Yahoo, and the Computer and Communications Industry Association, Consumer Electronics Association, and Net
      Coalition are making their opposition vocal. Demand Progress and a dozen other civil liberties and human rights groups circulated a letter in opposition this week.

      Most impressively, more than 3,000 Demand Progress members called Washington to urge their lawmakers to vote no.

      It’s not a done deal….

      BTW how are things in COINTELPRO land?

    • Trespass

      Just what are you expecting to happen, Jack? Whatever technology will be countered. Any sites removed will resurface. People are becoming savvy about using vpns and proxys.

      Opposition to the bill is snowballing: Google, Yahoo, and the Computer and Communications Industry Association, Consumer Electronics Association, and Net
      Coalition are making their opposition vocal. Demand Progress and a dozen other civil liberties and human rights groups circulated a letter in opposition this week.

      Most impressively, more than 3,000 Demand Progress members called Washington to urge their lawmakers to vote no.

      It’s not a done deal….

      BTW how are things in COINTELPRO land?

  • Ugly American

    “AVATAR was the most downloaded film yet its also the highest grossing film of all time. Please explain this one”

    He can’t – notice that MAFIAA shills never address facts. Just corporate propaganda.

    • Mainframe Xaiver

      Its always a ME ME ME ME attitude with these pigs. Its like they were never taught how to play nice as a child . It confuses the hell out of me to know how such selfish stubborn ruthless self centered people have so much power.

    • Chuck Norris

      Avatar did well because it was one of the first 3D films with groundbreaking technology and mindblowing effects to hit mainstream market. Of course you can’t pirate that experience, so one had to go and watch it on the big screen to enjoy it the way it was meant to be.

      But other great non-3D films don’t enjoy the advantage Avatar did, so they are still being hurt by piracy. Let’s face it. When 3D TVs and computers become mainstream, then even if producers make something far greater than Avatar, it won’t gross as high because you can pirate it and get that 3D experience at home.

      So, yes, piracy is hurting the industry and its no propaganda!!

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  • gabs

    firstly to mention that the internet is not a private property of United States…secondly Jullian Assange will at a time come to help and show the records where most of the people from the govt of America, senators and all themselves had used torrents from their own/home computers…thirdly a tracker can easily hide itself by camouflaging as a baby food product site…if they are to hack them…dear US…there will be millions like those spread all over America, after the recession do u at all have money to spend over these ‘techie’ guys?…lastly if these are ur views then abolish SSL security protocol first…who can say ‘illegal’ data transmission is not happening via a govt site or agency?…pls America in 2011 dont expect the whole world underneath your feet…these are just a mockery on urselves!!

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  • HerroFromChina

    Anyone still seeding 2 girls 1 cup? I would like to download it. Preferably in 1080p quality.

  • WilleZurMacht

    I REALLY hope this passes.

    The fact that the article plays it off as some sort of censorship against helpless internet users irritates the hell out of me.

    The majority of torrent users are pirating people’s stuff without even thinking about how they are indirectly screwing thousands of people. It’s a huge middle finger to the designers, engineers, script writers, bands, and whomever else put in the hard work.

    Piracy is theft, plain and simple. People are entitled to what they have created and are entitled to sell it for however they see fit. Torrenting copyrighted material is forcing people to give away their intellectual property by force. It’s equivalent to taking your classmate’s homework, copying it, then telling him to go f*** himself.

    • Trespass

      Actually, I always say thank-you….

      Copyright infringement is not theft according to the Supreme Court case of Dowling vs. The United States (1985)

      Have a nice Day : )

    • JimJones

      You must be trembling with rage. I would hate it if you happened to have a painful aneurysm and pass away.

  • ssj12

    Sadly very few, mostly us Libertarians, have the balls to stand up to this shit. The US citizens will embrace this like the did Obama and his warmongering. Same shit, less freedoms, and darker days to come. When can we get our Revolution? >.>

  • Reiatsunami

    THE WAR HAS BEGUN. MEN AND WEBDESIGNERS, MYSELF INCLUDED, START CREATING NEW TECHNOLOGY TO SHARE STUFF. THEY THINK NOW WE ARE SHARING A LOT OF STUFF? THE AGE OF SHARE AND P2P HAS NOW BEGUN. WE WILL FUCK YOU UP, YOU FUCKING USA, PIECE OF SHIT COUNTRY. WE WILL TAKE IT ON THE STREETS AND ROBB STORES AND DESTROY MALLS TO RESOLVE OUR FURY. WE WILL HACK YOUR FUCKING PENTAGON U MOFO, PENTAGUARD GROUP WILL DESTROY EVERY WEBSITE THAT STANDS IN THE WAY OF SHARING. PEACE!

    • Supermansharenetwork2012

      FTWR Romania is taking matters in his own hands.

      • Seeingpigenos

        go ftwr.ro !

  • Aninimous

    Don’t be surprised if the MAFIAA have Senator Wyden bumped off they spend to much of money on lobbyists and Liars to allow one person to screw things up.

    You will probably find obscene amounts of money gets dumped on his oppositions campaign next election if the don’t go for taking him out.

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  • Murdockowitz

    I don’t pirate movies so I shouldn’t be concerned right? Not like I use the internet for anything besides downloading “content”, so I’m okay with them monitoring everything to stop piracy.
    Just like I let big-nose people from Hollywood look over my shoulder while I’m using an ATM. Or invite smelly yid producers to eavesdrop on my private conversations.
    I have nothing to hide, Hollywood is welcome to come into my house and rifle through my possessions any time!

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  • imsostupid govneedstodoitall

    More red tape USA have to love it. Regardless of how you justify its all about freedom to be comfortable that most really care about. Oh no block the IP. VPN to another IP in another country and all is well again. It all comes down to common sense of individuals if you like the software or whatever material buy it and support it. The same people who were saying “China blocks everything” are the same people probably justifying it now.

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  • Knott

    You can’t legislate Morality. Prohibition didn’t stop those who wanted to drink and it created Bootleggers. The war on drugs hasn’t stopped me from smoking some satisfying SPLEAF whenever I want for the last 42 years. The DMCA hasn’t stopped trafficking in digital content. People were worried about where they were going to download bootlegged Metallica songs when Napster went off-line and the P2P world has grown exponentially ever since. Now people download whole discography’s instead of single songs. Last year a Judge blocked US citizen’s from accessing ISO Hunt as it used to be. Use a proxy like Furk.net and you can still get in whenever you want. Some BitTorrent search sites like Demonoid have moved away from Dotcom domains and the government may try to block Google from letting you go from a search page to a torrent tracker but there are a ton of free and paid proxies out there to get you anywhere you want.

    What me worry? I don’t think so. Put a roadblock up and most people will find a way around it! Ain’t technology Great :-)

  • Rusticcamping

    That would be Chris Dodd sticken it a little bit deeper into your a**

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  • where_did_the_freedom_go?

    thank god for senator wyden. at least there are some reasonable people left in the us goverment.

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  • Bill

    There is only one thing i can say : the day unemployment percentage of the young people goes beneath 5%, and the day EVERYONE gets raised pays so they can live normally and be capable to spend without worry on entertainment, is the day this MIGHT become acceptable.

    But considering many people even with high education and finished universities, live on the literal edge, counting every cent, planing all the time,
    and somehow bring light to their misery by entertainment that can be gotten free,
    it is pretty unacceptable, especially regarding poorer countries.

    The only thing keeping the governments and those same corporate idiots from being REALLY crapped over and attacked by the big angry rile that are students and the young now,
    is the possibility of free entertainment, or piracy, etc.
    It is a Colosseum effect like Romans had to avert the people from literally breaking up in flames.

    And besides that, and let us be frank, ISP’s depend on piracy, as 80% and more of their users go online for these purposes.
    Otherwise it is a definite loss and a definite financial war in the making.

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