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Anti-Piracy Company Pirates Queen-Issued Coat of Arms

This year has seen an explosion of companies all trying to cash in on the ‘turn piracy into profit’ mantra. These companies, many of them involving lawyers, are copying other people’s work like crazy – they’re even copying from each other. Today we bring news that one of these companies has taken a Coat of Arms issued by Elizabeth I in 1600, modified it, and used it for their own commercial purposes.

By day they spout their anti-filesharing rhetoric to the world in their inimitable corporate legalese. By night they’re spending the ill-gotten booty generated from their schemes and, surprise, surprise – infringing other people’s copyrights like top-rate hypocrites. There have been so many ‘indiscretions’ in recent times it’s hard to keep up, so please excuse us if we accidentally leave a couple of dozen out.

Earlier, ACS:Law happily copied other people’s news reports and posted those on their site as their own material, but were found out and quickly took the content down. But later the infringer became the victim when it was revealed through the leaked emails from ACS:Law that lawyers Tilly, Bailey & Irvine were threatened by ACS boss Andrew Crossley when TBI ‘pirated’ some of his legal documents and used them to screw money out of alleged file-sharers.

Over the pond in the States, the makers of The Hurt Locker are in partnership with the U.S. Copyright Group (USCG) in order to get yet more worry money from file-sharers. Considering their position, them infringing on other people’s rights would look very bad. And it did when they were caught copying a competitors website. Furthermore, USCG are now being sued by rival Media Copyright Group over a trademark issue.

A trademarks issue you say? Read on…

Earlier this week, following a tip from reader Mr Piracy Reporter, Techdirt reported that another new operation called the Copyright Defense Agency had created a very similar website to the one owned by the Copyright Enforcement Agency – the same company that USCG were accused of copying earlier. Please try to keep up….

However, while the sites do indeed look very similar, with their tech-styled graphics on the right and their official looking emblems on the left, it seems that the Copyright Defense Agency have been very naughty. Very naughty indeed. Here is their frontpage:

CDA Logo

Copyright Defense Agency

While the logo above does indeed look proud and regal, that hardly comes as a surprise when one discovers it was actually issued by Queen Elizabeth I. In the year 1600. However, since the Copyright Defense Agency (CDA) weren’t threatening file-sharers more than 400 years ago, they couldn’t have been the lucky recipients.

It turns out that Queen Elizabeth I gave this Coat of Arms to the famous East India Company which was set up by the English to trade with India. The original sketch can be seen below (image credit).

East India Company Coat of Arms

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“The East India Company was granted a Coat of Arms under the direct instructions from Queen Elizabeth I to William Camden alias Clarencieux, Garter Principal of the King of Arms,” explains the company website.

The company exists in new form today as a luxury brand, so when one begins to understand a little about the history its perhaps no surprise that they currently use a different logo. Nevertheless, the company is very clear about who owns the emblem.

“Today the coat of arms is a trademark of The East India Company,” they explain.

The Coat of Arms as displayed on the CDA site is, however, very slightly modified. The text as ordered by Queen Elizabeth I has been erased from the bottom scrolls.

It did say Deus Indicat. Deo Ducente Nil Nocet. (God is our leader. When God leads, nothing can harm.)

Its probably best for CDA to erase the rest of the logo now, and buy one of their own. Then they should stop intimidating file-sharers for doing just the same but for non-commercial purposes. They can’t take the moral high-ground with moves like this – if they ever had it.

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  • jovialau

    Well spotted.The bloody hypocrites.Surely this could be used at some future court hearings?

  • marion

    maybe the queen can sue em ….now that i would like to see in a court case

  • vtec

    Nicely exposed. :-)

  • Aficianado

    Oh, it’s not piracy when we do it your honour.

  • Anonymous

    lets send them a few take down notices

    legal@copyrightdefenseagency.com

    payback is bitch

  • Stiggle

    The East India Company has a history of taking on pirates (the original ship stealing ones). Perhaps they’re wanting to associate themselves with this image.

    Hopefully the EIC will nail them to the mast for this.

  • Anonymous

    And their SSL cert isn’t valid for their domain either.

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  • Whatever

    Copying makes the world go round.

  • TerribleTony

    These guys are clearly a very trustworthy company. I can tell because they supply absolutely no contact information, not even from which country they operate.

    I only trust companies that don’t let me know who they are.

    Note: This entire post is sarcasm, apart from this bit.

  • TerribleTony

    Okay, so I eventually found an address on this page:
    http://www.copyrightdefenseagency.com/details/

  • Hickster

    Great find! My mind is boggling

  • Truther

    The East India Trading Company also caused many of the most disgusting acts of its time.
    The logo seems fitting.

  • TerribleTony

    Surprise surprise, the web designers are religious nuts doing free work for churches (and charities – likely only connected to their particular belief system).

  • Paul

    I sent http://www.theeastindiacompany.com
    an email. The coat of arms is on the eastindia website.

  • A literate poster

    Quote from their site:
    “If you have been contacted by our firm, we highly recommend you seek the advise of a competent intellectual property attorney”

    I, on the other hand, highly recommend you look up the difference between “advise” and “advice”.

  • Anonymous

    Lasers have a new target?

  • Hypocrites or Human?

    Perhaps this proves that copying and/or sharing is/are human nature?

  • Paul

    If you click on the logo on the eastindia site and then look at the one on the CDA website, you can still see the white below the globe where they haven’t finished cutting it off the background.

  • Anonymous

    The Copyright Defense Agency(damn, that’s right up there with ‘Web Sheriff’) is based in the United States.

    So why the hell did they rip off a coat of arms with ENGLISH FLAGS ON IT for their stupid little badge?

    Are they really, really stupid? Or maybe they’re just pining away for the good ol’ colonial days, dressing up in red coats and going around screaming “THE BRITISH EMPIRE SHALL RISE AGAIN”?

  • Whatever

    @15 A literate poster
    Language errors are usually a sign that they are:
    a. A Nigerian scam website
    b. A Chinese clone device website (selling copied hardware).
    c. Bank phising website.

    Just choose one.

    Don’t mind any language errors in my post as i am NOT native English. :-)

  • VOR

    Uhh…I’m all for the good fight, but I feel pretty certain anything created in 1600 is in the public domain by now.

  • kuru

    @ 17:
    yes, and this shows once more that greed destroys braincells…

  • Anonymous

    Showing a logo that is similar to a government agency is illegal in the UK, especially for debt collection. I have reported them to trading standards and will inform watchdog about this.

  • C0RR0SIVE

    @21:

    By that statement, in 300+ years, I can use the Apple and Microsoft logos, I can also use any other logo I want, for anything I want.

    If an entity used that logo in the 1600′s, and is SOMEHOW still existent today, and they still use that logo, well, it is the property of that entity.

  • Paul

    +1 to 24

    The company is still around and displays the logo on their website, so it still belongs to them, copyright and all.

  • lilars

    Isn’t this the norm nowdays.The preacher who screams the loudest against gays turns out to be gay.The ones who campaign against drug use turn out to be addicts.The politicians who take the high ground on family values have hookers on the side.The ones who protest about illegal file sharing….
    well,you get my drift.

  • Anon

    LMAO!

  • Jack

    I also happen to notice they are sporting the Windows Live Messenger logo. Oops.

  • non

    Pirate bay is down

  • Anonymous

    “Pirate bay is down”

    Confirmed @ 13:08 eastern

  • Anonymous

    lol, yesterday i hooked up on searching “non-steamers” on the web due to the reason of disturbing tendency for private gaming servers to drop the non-steam support. Later i decided to watch dif videos on youtube with word “piracy”. Then i tried to fap on xvideos, and couldn’t make it there. Today i came from work, browsed web, got a sudden desire to re-watch “Highlander: The Animated Series”, went to pirate bay for complete set, then torrentreactor, discovered that many bit-sites are down, had the paranoia feeling…and now ffffuuuuuuuu here, reading articles. Its like i felt the shit-storm with my ass, unfuckingbiliveble.

  • Zanny

    confirmed 1832 Uk time

  • SamE

    @21

    Trademarks and copyright are two different things.

    A trademark can last forever if the owner continues to use the mark to identify goods or services.

    Copyright expires 95 years after work is published. Since the media companies keep bribing lawmakers, copyright is basically forever minus 1.

  • VOR

    @32

    And I learn yet a new thing to be pissed off about. This is good, I was feeling a little more emotionally stable than I should be this morning.

    Glad to hear that we’re more restrictive about industry trademarks than we are about freakin’ Shakespeare. I quit. Again.

  • English!

    OI! If you are going to copy the coat of arms but erase the text, at least have the decency to change the flags too!

    They are the St Georges Cross! The Flag of England and part fo the Union flag of Grat Britain!

  • silversurfer

    lmfao sad muppets
    the queen would not even given them a coat of arms to catch copywright affenders what haven thay done to even trade / use a coat of arms
    NOTHINGGG!!! beside threaten plp into paying there utter scum hope watch dog puts them on tv name and shame best way to deal with this scum more plp no who thay are the better even add em to a doss attack, “hack the planet”
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :>:>:>

  • Anonymous

    I think that their ‘TRUSTe’ certificate is fake too. Can’t find them in the TRUSTe directory and the link on CDA’s website looks really fake!

  • TorrentIdiots

    Trademark abandoned
    Copyright expired

    Do you guys even research anything?

  • Anonymous

    They also forgot to fill in some of the bits (in their graded black colour) that would have been transparent in the original logo. Look at the top banner and on either side, between the banner edge and brown flagpole thing. Underneath the globe where it meets the line of N’s and the bottom of each pole and just below that line of N’s too. In between the pointy bits of each of the English flags. Also like a previous poster mentioned, inside the bottom banner there are 4 areas created by the folds that should not be white.

    They obviously didn’t even copy it well!

  • non

    This is an insult to our Queen, Empire and St.George.

    Off with their heads, or at the very least exile them to that southern colony, I think that we have named it Australia.

    God Save The Queen

  • Anonymous

    ” Trademark abandoned
    Copyright expired

    Do you guys even research anything?

    Of course they don’t. It wouldn’t fit in with their hysterical worldview

  • non

    Or even Hypocritical, historical and sometimes hysterical worldview

  • Anonymous

    The UK also has what is called “Crown Copyright” which is distinct and separate from other copyright laws, and due to this, the 400-year-old King James Bible is still under copyright protection – a copyright that the United States government has always blatantly violated.

  • non

    @ 42

    Not applicable in the USA

  • Anonymous

    torrentleech is down too!

  • What Huh

    @42 – Indeed. I think a war was fought over that. Lol.

  • What Huh

    @43 – Indeed. I think a war was fought over that. Lol.

  • JohnnyBGood

    Well, since TF has no news about TPB, I have some: Gene Simmons’ admin have redirected the IP address from http://www.genesimmons.com to TPB IP, so Anonymous DDos attacks harms TPB.

    BIG MISTAKE!!!!!
    THIS IS ILLEGAL!!!!!

    Who is going to sue THEIR ASSES?

  • non

    @ 46

    Yes there was a slight misunderstanding a few 100 yrs. ago.

  • Gene

    Well my little babies, I warned you.

    \: -/

  • Gene

    “BIG MISTAKE!!!!!
    THIS IS ILLEGAL!!!!!”

    waaah waaah waaah

    no one cares about you or what you think, you thieving little pussy.

    And Pirate Bay isn’t protected by any of the laws I abide by here in the US.

    How’s it feel, bitch?

  • Anonymous
  • What Huh

    WOW.. TF defaming now :-(

  • Aussie

    @39 – we dont want em, we have enough lawyers abusing copyright laws here.

    @42 – I thought there was a Crown Copyright for regal items as well. Novel that US companies choose to ignore it though, given they are among the biggest preachers of copyright laws.

  • BigSwede

    TPB Down again …………………

    I wonder if that day will come when TorrentFreak present FAST AND
    RELIABLE FRESH NEWS about what the hell is going on at the
    biggest, and still most powerful TorrentSite in the history of mankind :

    THE PIRATE BAY …………………………………………

    The Pirate Bay has been down for around 6-7 hours, and there would be
    great to have some kind of TorrentFreak Updates about what is going on !

  • neostyles

    Yeah, using a single picture from 400 years ago without the creators consent is a big deal considering the terabytes of pirated material that sites like TPB have given out to people…

    Hmmm, I wonder how most pirates would feel about a 400 year old copyright, considering that they are calling to reduce the duration of copyright to 15 years.

  • What Huh

    @54 I hear crickets as well

  • Anonymous

    @Gene

    I’m pretty sure it’s still illegal in the USA to carry out DDoS attacks even if the target is a foreign website.

    By redirecting genesimmons.com to TPB’s IP address fully knowing that this would result in TPB getting DDoS’d, that makes Gene, his webmaster, or possibly both complicit.

    And unlike Anonymous, he’s not… Well.. Anonymous. If anyone bothered to bring charges against Gene(or whoever’s responsible) for this redirection stunt, he’d probably be in trouble.

    Although I doubt that’s going to happen considering he’s rich and also vaguely a celebrity.

    Sniff. It’s too bad you aren’t the real Gene Simmons, though. So many lulz could be had if you were :(

  • ahem

    Speaking of logo theft,
    Someone needs to blow the lid on Gallant Mcmillan’s theft of GM (General Motors) logo now.

    Compare this (Scroll halfway down):

    http://www.wiredvc.com/gallant-3macmillan44-to-follow-acslaw-route/

    To This:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors

  • anonymous

    They’re a little slow on this, someone on a forum I read pointed this out almost a month and a half ago.

  • The Queen

    I am not amused.

  • A loyal subject of her highness…

    @ 59

    Sue them! God Save The Queen!

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  • polyonymus

    @38,41:
    ” ” Trademark abandoned
    Copyright expired

    Do you guys even research anything?

    Of course they don’t. It wouldn’t fit in with their hysterical worldview”

    thank you both, the commentary here is shifting more and more towards radical extremism and im starting to get a bit nervous.

  • Anonymous

    @PseudoGene Troll:

    “And Pirate Bay isn’t protected by any of the laws I abide by here in the US.”

    How’s it feel, bitch?”

    Oh! and his website is down and is branding is damaged= Less money for a corporate parasite.

    Oh and I forgot: his friend killed the law. There is no law.

    May the strongest win.

    Since Ms Genetically damaged Simons is the weakest, How does it feel, bitch?

  • so where is this copyright expired?

    Copyright
    All aspects of this web site – design, text, graphics, applications, software, underlying source code and all other aspects – are copyright of The East India Company Ltd and its affiliates or content and technology providers.
    In accessing these web pages, you agree that any downloading of content is for personal, non-commercial reference only. No part of this web site may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise, without prior permission of The East India Company Ltd.
    For rights clearance please contact us here info@theeastindiacompany.com.

    have u been on their website and seen the actual logo? i mean the East India Companies? its been photoshopped and the only thing that had changed was that the writing was removed,

    and sure in that case i can use pirated versions of windows then cuz look, microsoft upgraded to 7 then i can use vista for free? err no and i dont btw =.= i felt obliged to pay D: silly me, anyways these b@stards deserve severe punishment for their hypocrisy. e.g. like the punishment they give out to all their ‘targets’ e.g. yea err were gna want 100bn from u for err breaking copyright err law was it? yea tee-hee, yea law =D so yea pay up or else!!, oh sry too much? ok fine 10bn!! yea NOW, thats right in my pocket, =o still too much? ok fine how about 10k and u settle the admin fees? ALRIGHT SCORE!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I really don’t think a 17th century design is protected under copyright anymore. Or has been in a long time if ever. Fail.

  • Anonymous

    @neomoron

    It’s insanely hypocritical for a group of self-proclaimed copyright defenders to commit copyright infringement. That’s why it’s a “big deal”.

    It doesn’t matter if it’s a 400 year old image or not. It’s still the copyrighted intellectual property of the East India Company. The CDA are still breaking the copyright laws they’re supposed to protect. Hence comedy.

    And since they’re obviously trying to pass the coat of arms off as their own logo, it’s also plagiarism.

    So, nice double standard you’ve got there, neomoron. I guess it’s only bad when filesharers infringe copyright, but it’s totally okay when copyright enforcement stooges like the CDA infringe copyright and commit plagiarism at the same time.

    I bet it’d also be okay with you if some pro-copyright nutjob like Gene Simmons was secretly running a seedbox, right? But if you hear about some average joe running one, then you’re all “oooooh, damn that criminal bastard!”.

  • Mitch

    #40

    Please do not insult the Australians you racist bastard

  • PirateBay

    PirateBay is back up… nothing to worry about!

  • Anon

    @67 well said and fully agreed.

    Checking over the ACS Law emails I noticed A Crossley was also file sharing music illegally, which was a nice wee find in the leak.

    This and other things show it’s one rule for them and another rule for us.

    Greedy lying hypocritical scumbags with power trying to take from the supposedly powerless people (not anymore thanks to Anonymous)

  • dun dun dun

    good catch. hudson’s bay aka Canada’s The Bay must have a CoA too, keep an eye out for corporate infringers!

  • Royal Punishment

    I find this funny. Americans thieves are not uncommon to history.

    That started with their country independence. Nice except that this was not a democratic independence when most people at the time were still loyal to England. That only changed due to a poorly conceived attack on a arms storage building leaving many locals dead.

    Those founding fathers were cowards also. Only two of them dared to sign the original document due to fear of English attacks when the other names were only added later when things started going well.

    Even their documents on the constitution and bill of rights were largely stolen from related English documents.

    So a War on Independence followed and the Americans got lucky due to bad British planning. Saved some traitors getting hanged it seems.

    Then on to the independence of the South and the American civil war. Yet another non-democratic event when they got independence from England but now the Southern Confederate states were denied democratic independence from them!

    Never satisfied with their lot the great US of A were soon attacking Mexico, Canada and their own local Indians in evil plans worthy of the Nazis. Texas is stolen land.

    Just see the Canadians for peaceful democratic independence along with RESPONSIBLE gun ownership.

    Yes the King James Bible was a case of pure theft. It took 47 scholars from the Church of England to make it including translations from many languages including Masoretic Hebrew. Did the Americans fund their own English version or even pay for this English creation? No just stolen property.

    So here is yet another example of steal from the English with no regards to ownership. Like no one in the UK would dare do likewise.

    What have we learned? Undemocratic, cowards, greed, theft and hypercritical. No disrespect to nice Americans of course.

  • Whatever

    @72 Royal Punishment
    I guess you also saw “A remix manifesto”.

    In the past before Hollywood they “stole” everything because they didn’t have any “IP”.

  • magellan

    Interesting admissions by the trolls here:

    For one:
    “And Pirate Bay isn’t protected by any of the laws I abide by here in the US.”
    - So I take it that you *don’t* think the whole world should lock step with the biggest IP exporting country, the US on the Issue

    Or:
    “Yeah, using a single picture from 400 years ago without the creators consent is a big deal considering the terabytes of pirated material that sites like TPB have given out to people… ”

    - so scale matters too? I can ignore rights of another, as long as I don’t do it en masse?

    “And last but not least:
    Hmmm, I wonder how most pirates would feel about a 400 year old copyright, considering that they are calling to reduce the duration of copyright to 15 years.”

    - So, it is perfectly allright for me to use protected material, If i personally don’t agree with the reason said material is protected?

    Interesting…

  • What Huh

    @67 I suppose the iron cross is trademark… as well as the Leonardo Da Vinci’s Canon of Proportions. You guys are pathetic.

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  • Anon

    The image may be old but:

    Legal restrictions on usage

    Like a trademark, a coat of arms represents its owner and cannot be used for any purpose:

    * It cannot be appropriated by someone else.
    * Its use in a defamative context may cause a prejudice to its owner, who can ask for reparation.

    The respect of such legal restrictions is under the responsibility of the picture’s user.

    The existence of such legal restriction is not considered as a restriction on the licence terms, since the licence itself is “as free as possible”, and whatever the licence terms, it cannot be interpreted as allowing an illegal or prejudicial usage. Such legal restriction is therefore admitted on Commons.

    Copyright on the representation

    Saying that the CoA definition is public domain does not mean that a given representation is, nor that derivative works are not possible. Generally speaking, the author’s right on a CoA is attached to the artist that draws a given representation, not to the CoA definition (the blazoning). Therefore, a CoA can be freely drawn after a model (without involving derivative rights), but a given picture “found on the internet” cannot be uploaded: it must be redrawn.

    Indeed, if someone makes a .svg translation of a .jpg original drawing, it is a copyvio – but not a “derivative work”, since there has been no artistic creativity.

    Coat of arms “found on the internet”

    The main problem with CoA is not to upload private (copyrighted) images “found on the net”, but CoA drawn afresh are OK. As soon as the change in the drawing is substantial enough, so that the original picture can’t be identified, it is a derivative of the “Per fess argent and vert, a dragon passant gules” PD-definition, not of the CC-Image:Flag of Wales 2.svg representation.

    * The coats of arms on international civic heraldry (like most other sites) cannot be used on commons, because the drawings are (most of the time) made by a recent artist who owns the copyright on that specific picture.
    * The only “public domain” CoA in such database would be those who are obviously scanned from very old publications – that is almost impossible to identify.
    * Images from International Civic Heraldry (http://www.ngw.nl/) fall into two categories:
    o Those images drawn by the webmaster himself.
    o Those images which come from other sources. These are only ok to upload if they are free for some other reason such as PD-old (see above) or due to local.

    Did they make a new artist representation of the Coat of Arms? No, therefore the usage is breaking copyright.

  • Owner of the copyright to the name *neostyles*

    Dear Sir,

    It has come to our attention that you are infringing on one of our sacred copyrights. In doing so, you are stealing from the mouths of our talented team of content creators. Every time you use the name *neostyles*, a kitten dies. Or something. We hope you’re satisfied! At any rate, our legal team of lawyers and other resourceful prostitutes have determined that each one of your posts under the name *neostyles* is costing us $365,903,097,912.03 – give or take a few dollars. Not really sure how the heck we pull these numbers out of our ass. Well, these “lost sales” mean that we can’t buy as many mansions or as much premium cocaine. You are causing more damage than you realize – many of our executives are still sailing in last year’s yachts! How can you sleep at night? Have you no shame? No compassion? Please remove the name *neostyles* immediately or we’ll pee on your lawn. We mean it. We’ve been drinking all night. We hope to receive your full cooperation in this urgent matter but if you or your legal representative has any questions, please don’t hesitate to contact our office: 1-800-GET-BENT.

    Sincerely,
    Timmy Kuik, Esq.

  • Anon
  • MD3

    Recalls me of the font ACTA guys stole to make their logo…

  • Shelby140

    What a bunch of hypocritical idiots most of you are.

    Why do you even give a shit if a company is using this logo? It’s not going to affect anyone….anywhere, and you’re all crying that it’s so illegal and yet….at the same time crying that your favourite torrent sites are offline so you can’t download stuff for free….

    I’m not against piracy at all, but its case isn’t helped by so many whiny pussies making stupid remarks and ridiculous arguments

    Get a life, if your favourite torrent site is down, go do something else for a bit until it’s back! Don’t just sit in front of your computer crying

  • magellan

    @Shelby140
    Interesting.
    It isn’t hurting anyone?
    So, since I would never buy anything I download, I am not hurting anyone, and by that logic I should be allowed to do so, right?

    Also, If they hadn’t used a logo from the internet, they would have had to comission one from an artist. Would have put bread on his table for a day or two. Don’t you think about the poor, now starving, graphic designer at all?

    Who was the hypocrite again?

  • Anonymous

    :[] My queens Coat of arms…

  • Ninja

    LOL!!! Owned!!! And (correct me if I’m wrong) under the current copyright laws if the company that holds the rights to the emblem/logo/whatever is still active then they can sue for copyright infringement, dead people/groups/whatever have some sort of deadline for economic use of their songs (again, correct me if I’m wrong and the system is unbelievable exploitable in terms of time restrictions for dead ppl). Bloody brilliant!

    Everyday we see examples on how these idiotic laws can be exploited with no end and how they actually KILL creativity instead of protecting it. Seriously, this is brilliant!

  • Don

    The Denton, Tx address is just a Pack N Mail. Instead of a PO Box they use “Suite” numbers. Regardless of copyright, which East Indy company apparently owns, England does still have the Court of Chivalry which has convened as recently as 1959. Unfortunately only a civil court. Long of the short this is just a scam or a “resume” company for college students.

  • Don

    Ah…. more serious than I thought. The link is dead, however google still has an old news post “News – Copyright Defense Agency | Defending Your Rights
    August, 2010: Copyright Defense Agency sues 132 torrent pirates for Lucas …

    Elsewhere we find that Lucas Entertainment should not be confused with Lucas Films. LE is an adult entertainment biz who have been suing gay porn pirates.

  • ORiN

    It seems that The East India Company Ltd and the historical East India Company are not related in anyway. According to Wikipedia, the historical EIC was dissolved in 1874. The current one is just trying to leverage on the brand.

    If the Coat of Arms was issued to the historical EIC, then there is no infringement of The East India Company Ltd. However, I am wondering if both The East India Company Ltd and Copyright Defence Agency are both liable to be sued by the British crown.

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