Iceland’s ‘MPAA’ Quits Facebook After 4 Days of Fail

Ernesto
February 7, 2013
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The Icelandic Film and Movie organization SMAIS is known for its tough anti-piracy stance. In an attempt to engage a debate and address a recent report which accused SMAIS of not paying for software themselves, the group joined Facebook. However, the discussion on the social networking site quickly turned into a flame war. After just four days the group decided to call it quits and left Facebook, with an unlikelihood it will ever return.

There is a good reason why the MPAA and RIAA are not on Facebook. They would become cannon fodder, and every word they post would be carefully dissected by an angry mob.

However, Iceland’s version of the MPAA didn’t get this memo and SMAIS decided to create a Facebook page of their own last week. This didn’t go well for them.

As expected, there were dozens of Facebook users who started attacking the group’s views in the comments. Initially SMAIS responded to the critique, but the response from the public was so overwhelming that the group couldn’t keep up after a while.

What certainly didn’t help was that SMAIS itself never paid for the film and game rating software they purchased from the Dutch company NICAM back in 2007.

“From the moment the contract was signed, everything went silent. There was no contact between SMAIS and us, unfortunately. We tried to contact them, but it didn’t work,” NICAM’s managing director Wim Bekkers said in a recent news report.

This seemingly hypocritical behavior only added fuel to the fire, and there was little SMAIS could do to change the public’s views. The same happened with other comments made by the group, which were all rebutted by the new Facebook “fans,” neither of whom seemed to support the positions of the movie group.

Realizing that they were hurting their image rather than repairing it, SMAIS decided to delete their Facebook page after being active for just four days.

According to SMAIS’ Snæbjörn Steingrímsson the group would have to hire new staff if they want to address all the commentary on Facebook. In addition, Steingrímsson said it was interesting to see that Internet “freedom fighters” believe that only their voice should ne heard on Facebook.

The group left the following message, and is likely to never come back.

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Dear Internet people.

Unfortunately it seems that our attempt to be on Facebook is not working out for us at the moment. There are too many people here that only wants to flame us, rather than interact and share their views.

We would still like to thank those who visited our page, and the many that showed interest in sharing their opinions. It is clear that SMÁÍS has a place in the heart of many Internet users, and it’s very surprising how many views and comments this experiment has gotten.

It’s not that we fear criticism or debate, but it’s clear that we have to hire staff that can do this job properly. It is interesting to learn that some freedom fighters think that only some voices have a place on Facebook, but it’s not surprising. This attempt was not in vain, as it shows we have lots to learn before we try again :)

Yours, Snæbjörn Steingrímsson

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bobmail

Yup, the kids showed up and shouted them down.

You kids should be proud of yourselves. You really showed them!
- Gues
  
  What’s up bob, don’t you like it when someone else does your job for you in shouting down people. Get over yourself lol
  - bobmail
    
    I don’t shout anyone down. Where would you get that idea?
    - Guest321
      
      Your random outbursts and insults in previous threads are there for everyone to see. Is incessant lying a disease or habit of yours?
    - bobmail
      
      I reply to insults with insults. I reply to discourse with discourse. I reply to your misleading posts by trying to correct them. That’s all.
    - Kuntandthegang
      
      There, you just did it then! Bitch.
    - Game Over
      
      bobmail
      “I don’t shout anyone down. Where would you get that idea?”
      
      Hey, he’s being repetitive, he already replied this
      on another comment, it’s obvious this guy is finished,
      he has nothing else to offer, same happen to Wal-Mart,
      if it’s not the same person
      with the nickname bobmail now.
- jimmy671
  
  Bobby you seem to have a ‘thing’ about kids,be careful some people might misunderstand.
- Guest
  
  So you support them using software they didn’t pay for, then? Thanks, bobby, we’re going to quote you on that one for the future, alongside your ambivalence over Evan Stone’s appeals to the judge after he received multiple sanctions. You DO still think he operated within the limits of the law, right?
- Liam JH
  
  Kids get too have all the fun
- Guest
  
  Oh the irony of trying to shout us down for “shouting down” SMAIS.
  
  And calling us kids when you argue like 3 year old.
  
  I guess it’s a good thing you don’t have any self awareness, bob. Because if it ever dawned on you what a clown you are you’d probably spend all day every day in bed, just sobbing.
  - bobmail
    
    The actions are those of children, unable to have a civil discussion, and unable to respect the right of the group to have a civilized facebook page. It’s really pathetic, basically being unable to even allow the other side to talk.
    
    The rest of your insults are even more childish. Is that all you have?
    - Anon
      
      Why won’t you answer the question above, bob? Do you support the illegal usage of software by antipiracy organisations? Do you?
    - Guest321
      
      His MAFIAA handbook doesn’t have an answer to that. He needs to come out from under the desk and consult Pelouzey for that one.
    - Ardvaark
      
      Forget it. That hits too close to his reality bubble, he’ll never answer that question.
    - bobmail
      
      I don’t care about it one way or the other. What they do or do not do is their issue, not mine. I don’t work for them, I don’t run them, I don’t control them.
      
      Is it even relevant to the discussion here? Do you think that shouting them down on facebook is a good answer?
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      “…unable to have a civil discussion…”
      
      You mean we are unwilling to have civil discourse with anyone whose only contribution to the debate is dishonest arguments completely void of fact?
      
      Or that your views on how an accusation by necessity should equal guilt, placing burden of proof on the defender met with disparagement and scorn?
      
      I’d say you have worked mighty hard to earn yourself the contempt you are met with around here.
    - bobmail
      
      “You mean we are unwilling to have civil discourse with anyone whose only contribution to the debate is dishonest arguments completely void of fact?”
      
      I guess this means you have finally stopped talking to yourself.
      
      Seriously, I don’t start out insulting anyone. But all I get back from some people here is naked hatred, blaming me personally for the acts of the **AAs, real or perceived, and general slagging without consideration.
      
      The contempt I am met with here has little to do with me, and pretty much everything to do with the hatred that sites like TF spoon feed to you guys. There is so much blind rage, that even the best argument fails because you guys stopped listening a long time.
      
      The typical answer around her is “FUCK THE MAFIAA AND YOU TOO BOB!”. Do you really think that is deep discourse, or just a knee jerk reaction from someone who has a belly full of the spoon fed hatred?
      
      Try to answer without insulting me personally. You might find it a real challenge to actually articulate a position and your thoughts, not just your emotions.
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      “Try to answer without insulting me personally. You might find it a real challenge to actually articulate a position and your thoughts, not just your emotions.”
      
      Gee, that’s a tough one. Normally, you see, any factual answer to any claims you make do by default become either extremely patronizing or outright insulting.
      
      And to be quite honest, very few people around here moved to make any effort on behalf of someone whose major contribution to a debate is outright lying combined with spurious ad hominems.
      
      Now if any of your posts actually contained facts we would be in a different position.
      
      We can start with how TF feeds us “hate” – which, I suppose, is your new word for factual reporting. Or is it just the reactions of the average poster which has you concerned?
      
      Or is it the fact that mentioning these stories on any sites tend to get similar reactions?
      
      You know what I think? I think pro-copyright maximalists have already seen the writing on the wall. Your time is done and you yourselves have amassed such compact loathing among people that now you don’t even try anymore. All you have left in your bag of tricks by now is trolling ad hominem. And cheap one at that.
      
      So no, I think we will just keep right on smacking you down whenever you post absurd statements as we always have. Because you are NOT worth the effort of wrapping the revelation that the internet isn’t powered by magic or works like you dream it does in fluffy and comforting padding.
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      Around here we can just shorthand that entire discussion to three letters: PKB. As in remove the two-by-four from your own eye, bobmail, before you try to get the splinter from mine own.
    - http://twitter.com/Paco420_Pt Paco420
      
      civilized and facebook should not be in the same sentence… its redundant.
    - Zumzum
      
      I hate those childish commenters who argue using annoying facts. I much prefer those MAFIAA types and their hyperbole.
    - Dawwg
      
      Look who’s talking; the gaylord that can’t distinguish between facts and fiction. The obvious troll ranting and always pointing fingers without reflecting on his own pathetic behaviour.
      
      Kids have the future, you only have the past, You, your arguments and your methods are stale already. Cherish your content now, while you still can, as it will be a vague memory soon … and then you have nothing left.
    - Guest
      
      “unable to have a civil discussion”
      
      That, coming from somebody incapable of having any kind of discussion, is pretty hilarious.
      
      Also, I guess your idea of “civil discussion” is when we don’t shine a light on the lies and hypocrisy of the MAFIAA?
      
      Why am I not surprised?
      
      Another thing that doesn’t surprise me: you appear to support software piracy as long as it’s the MAFIAA doing it.
      
      lol, hell, you’re probably a pirate yourself. Only you’re a sociopath as well, so you have no problem getting paid to smear the internet with anti-sharing propaganda while you do the very thing you condemn.
      
      Just like SMAIS.
    - bobmail
      
      See my comment to scary devil.
      
      As soon as you get to “MAFIAA” and other canned hatred responses, the discussion ends. You aren’t putting anything on the table except your naked hatred and emotional response. That’s why there is no civil discussion.
      
      Oh, and I am not getting paid to post here. Why do you have such a problem with that? Is it perhaps that you are getting paid by TF to keep the comments rolling? Are you maybe a staff member?
      
      (See how that works?)
    - Anon
      
      Answer the question, bob! If you’re not answering the question, it’s an admission that you DO support antipiracy organisations’ usage of illegal software!
      
      I’m not insulting you, am I?
    - bobmail
      
      let me answer it AGAIN, if you can’t read.
      
      I don’t control them, I don’t agree with them doing it, but that is their choice. I don’t run them, I won’t work for them, I don’t control them.
      
      More important, it’s entirely irrelevant to the discussion. It is basically rather than addressing the issue (how stupid it is to shout them down and chase them off of Facebook, limiting their free speech rights), it’s dragging bad acts of others (related or not) into the discussion to change the course of the discussion, rather than addressing the case at hand.
      
      How about you, guest, and a few other address the issue: Do you think it’s right to shout a company off of Facebook and limit their free speech rights?
    - Guest
      
      Chase them off? You know, it was their decision to pull out of Facebook. If they felt that presenting their viewpoint and silencing their critics was important they should have stayed on; that would have put them in a far better light. It’s perfectly within the rights of people to make their dissatisfaction of organisations known.
      
      And no, I don’t believe it’s irrelevant to the discussion. For one, “not caring about it one way or the other” is different from “not agreeing with them doing it”. For two, for someone who insists that every judicial decision that goes against international RIAA/MPAA equivalents will be appealed, you clearly have a deep interest in everything with regards to these organisations, and seeing that you like to catch anyone on claims of “piracy!”, when these organisations mess up, your perspective is extremely important since you don’t criticise them ever.
      
      So which is it, bobmail? If you’re not agreeing with them doing it, do you therefore agree that they should be called out on this and if possible, punished to the maximum extent of the law as they have likewise demanded for others?
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      “You aren’t putting anything on the table except your naked hatred and emotional response. That’s why there is no civil discussion.”
      
      There can be very little “discussion” with some nickname-of-the-month who in every post he’s made has included one major lie and one false assumption to wrap his “argument” around.
      
      And that would be you. But that factual refutal of your ridiculous claims now counts as “hatred” is news to me. Unless you just chose this moment to redefine the meaning of yet a few more words.
      
      No, bobmail, we don’t “hate” you. You aren’t worth it.
      
      We simply feel contempt and utter disregard for you because you aren’t relevant to any of us other than as a convenient backdrop to demonstrate to fence sitters just how a pro-copyright maximalist thinks.
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      Seems to me that bobby-boy has run out of anything coherent to present and is turning to whinging about all the pain he’s being subjected to. There’s always a solution, of course…he could just choose not to present pure bullshit that is so easily disproved; he could choose to step up his discourse and think before he spoke or – and this is a really, really easy one – he could just keep it to himself.
    - ktetch
      
      yes, how DARE they point out an antipiracy org was committing commercial piracy, How dare people point out that a lobby group was violating it’s own basic claims. Because that’s just not allowed; criticism of antipiracy companies for their actions should be restricted to muttering to ones self, in the mirror. between 10am and 4am, on snowy Tuesdays in April.
- vetyu
  
  Those damn kids.
- Scary_Devil_Monastery
  
  Ah, you mean “The majority was so overwhelmingly against us literally no one came to our defense against the raging mob”?
  
  That’s how a democracy works when a minority actively works at becoming loathed like an apartheid regime.
  
  Odd thing, though, that here on torrentfreak, the overwhelming majority of posters is quite friendly to filesharing while you guys can’t rustle up enough sympathy to raise a single friendly voice not already bought and paid for.
  
  Vox populi, vox dei.
  - bobmail
    
    No, democracy works by changing the laws and working to find something that is for the common good of everyone. It doesn’t come by shouting down and squashing the other side’s opinion by being loud and then not considering them in the future.
    
    What happened here is that a group of people decided that this Icelandic agency or group shouldn’t have the same rights as everyone else They decided they would do the virtual version of the “god hates fags” types yelling at a military veteran’s funeral. It may be free speech at it’s absolute limits, but it’s not really helping anyone. It adds nothing to the discussion, except anger and frustration.
    
    If you want to protest them, open your own facebook page and protest. Driving them off the internet isn’t going to change them, it will just make them angry and even less likely to want to deal with you. That’s not helping anyone
    - It Works Both Ways
      
      “Driving them off the internet isn’t going to change them, it will just make them angry and even less likely to want to deal with you. That’s not helping anyone”
      
      Wait where have I see somebody doing something similar to that…..
      
      Oh snaps, I remember those Acronym Organizations and their ilk abusing their consumers and treating them like criminals
    - bobmail
      
      Again, perhaps you might realize that your side is using the same tactics you claim to hate in the other. Tit for tat is pretty much the start of the downward spiral. If you want to better than the other side, then actually be better, and be above what you consider bad, don’t wallow in it.
    - Guest
      
      “Actually be better”? When you’ve got evidence that pirates are suing the RIAA and its international inbred cousins for thousands of dollars, and installing rootkits on RIAA computer systems, you might have a case. The RIAA is claiming to be in the right, but their suing of innocents and whining about how they’re the victims is trashing their case more than pirates could ever do.
      
      Pirates don’t have to be better than the RIAA, because they’re not operating out of some moral outrage. Hell, the RIAA is making it hard to be worse than them.
    - It Works Both Ways
      
      Wait up a minute, what side would my side be ?
      
      Maybe Consumer of the products that antagonize me and give me a grief and waste of time spent watching at least two unskippable government warnings and a bunch of other stuff that isn’t the movie I wanted to see and paid for in the 1st place
      
      or the video game that doesn’t work because it can’t connect to the server or the DRM in it doesn’t allow me to install it properly and play
      
      I won’t even adress music because what the record company that below to Acronym Organizations like RIAA are not and never will be my taste
      
      Also remember the consumer didn’t start the war those Acronym Organizations and their ilk started it by some of the things Guest said
      
      Moreover if you really do not work for them maybe you should make a little research about those Acronym Organizations to find the truth about them (but I’m guessing you already know and don’t care)
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      Again with the “side”.
      
      I realize it helps you to envision that pirates are simply some organization somewhere which can be conveniently locked up or conned away. It’s not.
      
      And given the desperate tone of bitter apathy in your last sets of posts, you know this as well.
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      “If you want to protest them, open your own facebook page and protest.”
      
      Really. I would advise you go and read up on how “free speech” works.
      
      What happened in iceland was simple. A universally loathed group opened a webpage, proceeded to use it to present untruths, lies, and views found unpalatable by any.
      
      And much like a neo-nazi web forum trying to work out of Israel, they found themselves besieged with people who found the message – lies and all – which they brought incredibly offensive.
      
      This is how democracy works. The minority seeking to con the majority will not have an easy time doing so.
      
      But I can imagine that being alone against a tidal swell of public opinion must not feel good for you personally.
- Ardvaark
  
  Actually the SMAIS attitude can pretty much be compared to yours as it’s pretty much the same.
  
  Their statement: “it is interesting to learn that some freedom fighters think that only
  some voices have a place on Facebook, but it’s not surprising.”
  
  is not only false but shows how they’re using backwards rationalization to justify their shortcomings and not hurt their ego.
  
  They can post on facebook as much as you can post in here. But that doesn’t guarantee that your views will be accepted by someone else.
  
  They, just like you, posted their views and opinions and the vast majority of the people who read it disagreed and proved them wrong while sharing their views on the issue. You know, just like people here keep proving your arguments wrong and flawed.
  
  Such a negative feedback would hurt their egos then basic psychology ensues. You can:
  
  a) Become aggressive/defensive and insult (What you usually do)
  
  b) Do backwards rationalization and blame your short-comings on your opponent, saving your ego from total destruction.
  
  They went for B). Instead of understanding what other people said, they simply justified their lack of arguments with “lack of staff” and “too much flaming”. There they magically shifted the blame, personal crisis avoided.
  
  Sometimes there’s also a C) approach and you, bobmail, love that one, which is disappearing, never answering back and hoping you forget about it and it shifts away from your reality.
Manky Goes to Bollywood

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jimmy671

(Iceland’s MPAA Quits Facebook After 4 Days of Fail)

Quick Bobby,get yourself over to Iceland,you might be able to pull the MAFIAA’s arse out of the fire.
But may I suggest that you may need a bit more Troll training.
Grammar Police

That is the most horrible and disgusting homepage I’ve ever seen. It’s one huge-ass JPG image. Are they so worried about people stealing the copyrighted homepage text that they decided there should be no text on the page?
- Grammar Police
  
  Screenshot, with clicking and dragging image to show it’s a huge-ass image. Might not work, as the image attachment thing is spazzing out.
  - Guest
    
    http://smais.is/vefur_i_vinnslu.jpg
    
    Set to 100% width and height too… yuk
    - Guest
      
      Not trying to defend those idiots, but the text at the top says “This webpage is under construction” .. They used to have a half-decent page on some CMS and I think someone hacked it. So they’re having someone build them a new one..
    - guest
      
      there website has been under a constuqtion for more then a year.
    - Maldoror
      
      Haha, “under constucktion”. There’s an apt neologism for perpetually unfinished websites!
- Ignas
  
  Whoever made this page has no knowledge of any web related language. You’d think that from all their suing they could afford at least 500 USD a month web guy, turns out not.
  - http://twitter.com/JanieMartin12 JanieMartin
    
    as Mike explained I’m alarmed that a mom able to profit $5983 in one month on the network.
  - http://twitter.com/JanieMartin12 JanieMartin
    
    …..—-goo.gl/LK18r (Home more information)
    - IP
      
      Fuck you and your spam. Ither comment on the topic or gtfo. No one wants your bullshit.
    - Guest321
      
      They are bots. No use shouting at them. Only way to get rid of them would be to not allow any live links in the comment section but that could prove counterproductive on some occasions.
    - http://www.facebook.com/georgehafiz George Hafiz Ħafiz
      
      This comments system should implement the hashcash/proof of work system: http://www.mikeash.com/pyblog/testing-hashcash-based-anti-spam-measures.html
    - Netizen
      
      do not reply to obvious spam.
      flag it.
      it will disappear.
      
      If you reply
      Your comment is not spam
      The spam will stay until moderated.
      Your comment is NOT spam
      It will not be deleted.
      
      Replying just keeps the spam here.
      
      FLAG iT… and move on
    - http://twitter.com/Paco420_Pt Paco420
      
      Why is it that people like this are still around? Hey TF.. can we get a comment section cleanup… These types ad’s shouldn’t be allowed. Hell it has nothing to do with the topic even… just trying to get us to sign up for some thing you can do by getting partnered on Youtube.
    - ktetch
      
      Flag them, don’t reply to them. We clean them up as quickly as we can, but there’s only so much time we can spend keeping an eye on comments.
      
      flag them, we’ll get them.
- Cate Blanchett
  
  So now they decide what’s going to be included / removed from the domain block list entirely on their own?
  
  I’m not comfortable with that. ……….
  http://torrentfreak.com.qr.net/j6Jf/anti-piracy-group-quits-facebook-after-4-days-130207/
Nunki

an eye for an eye
What did they expect?
Mafiaafire

They couldn’t sell their drivel like they usually do in books and media because here people can talk back and tell them they are taking BS… So they took their ball and went home.
- mafiaafire
  
  *talking
Annoyed User

What is this, a G-rated site where you can’t say “ass”? Why the crap was my comment moderated?
- Guest
  
  That’s right. Torrentfreak doesn’t take kindly to that kind of salty language, you motherfucking asshole.
  
  (Hint: sometimes comments will get flagged for moderation at random for no reason. This has been happening since before TF even switched to Disqus.)
http://profiles.google.com/pianogamer Knut Harald

I’ve seen people block comments over “flaming issues” before, except the amount of flame posts were below 20%, while the rest were decent critical comments. If the debate gets too tough, there’s always convenient excuses.
Guest

I’m an asshole, so im going to setup a page where I kick disabled kids.

Oh, why won’t you stop flaming me and interact/share your views!!
- ezprzvbe
  
  lmao xD
- The Guy
  
  Seems legit.
- Nasty
  
  Well said. But there is more. When they wrote “but it’s clear that we have to hire staff that can do this job properly” They mean hiring an army of trolls pretending to be the general public and pretending to support these corporate Asshole. Obviously they can not afford that anymore. The MPAA is now employing only one troll to spread fake opinion at TF and elsewhere trying but failing to give the impression that the MPAA has some public support. Before they could afford a dozen! Pathetic!
  - guest
    
    And soon bobmail, anon & nejtillpirater gonna submit their resumes!!
    - Anonymous
      
      LoL
- Netizen
  
  These morons who try to impose their rules, on the internet they imagine exists, just don’t geddit.
  
  none of us are as cruel as all of us
dondilly

It is also why if you go to the mpaa and riaa sites their ‘blog’ posts always have comments disabled. The last thing they want is for ppl to criticise their spurious claims.
- Guest321
  
  Its only a matter of time before people stop flaming them online and take the flamethrower to their headquarters instead.
  - ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt
    
    I’m all for that, bro.
Anyone

if you are as hated as the MAFIAA of course opening up yourself for feedback like that will backfire

stop being such assholes, and maybe you can be accepted in society
Andrew me

While it is sad that there was a flame war, this should show that there is a problem when a copyright business cannot create a page where they accept comments because there is such a large part of the population that looks at them as nothing but criminal.
- Guest321
  
  You don’t think they know they are criminals? They also know they have absolutely no creative talent and this is the only way they could ever make a living. So they will keep doing whatever it is they do as long as there’s money in it.
Lethn

I doubt there were even that many people flaming them that they claim ( though it could well be true given what dickheads they are ) if you look at all the newspapers etc. you will find that most articles they have posted up which are clearly either horribly wrong or talking about subjects that are bound to get people angry have their comments closed.

You either accept free speech and the people who disagree with you or not at all, I approve of things like block functions because then it’s just down to personal choice but to abandon the whole thing because people said some mean things to you is pathetic and cowardly.
- Scary_Devil_Monastery
  
  And I’ll wager the “flaming” started out as it does here. Some troll identical to bobmail tries to peddle the visitors a large bunch of lies, they call him on his bullshit, and next thing you know, he starts whining about why everyone’s being so mean to him.
  
  I’m guessing the *AA’s normally know they have lost the PR war and the only weapon left is bribing candidates with campaign contributions in the hopes of getting more laws rammed through congress against the will of the electorate.
  
  And yet even there they’ve hit the wall. ACTA, SOPA and PIPA were turning points and right now they are frigging desperate.
  - bobmail
    
    Let’s get real here.
    
    Nobody who is against copyright would be showing up on the page unless they intended to start something. I think it’s much more likely that the account holder posted something, and then the flaming kidding came in and started a schoolyard fight, calling them names, insulting them personally, and generally removing any valid use of the account.
    
    if you don’t like what they are saying, don’t participate. Nobody forced anyone onto that page.
    
    I am guessing at this point it was the local version of you and guest over there flaming without mercy, without consideration, and without anything constructive to add. Your opinion is basically blaming the victim, which is idiotic.
    - Wow
      
      “if you don’t like what they are saying, don’t participate. Nobody forced anyone onto that page.”
      
      So you’re saying that a person shouldn’t comment on an article if they disagree?
      
      Say that again please. It’s even funnier than what you usually say,
    - Anyone
      
      I wonder if he sees the irony
    - MadAsASnake
      
      So what the hell are you doing on Torrentfreak?
    - Whatever
      
      Digging a hole for himself… and fall in.
      
      If you were to combine his previous comments on the matter it would show a really troubling split personality disorder.
    - Guest
      
      I don’t think it’s “split personality” – I think he’s just masochistic. Not surprising for someone who likes Robert King’s baby batter on his face.
    - MadAsASnake
      
      So is he simply narcissistic or does he have full blown BPD?
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      “Nobody who is against copyright would be showing up on the page unless they intended to start something…”
      
      Ah, you mean like someone reading a lie and correcting the fact? I realize why you’d mistake that for an “attack”.
      
      “I think it’s much more likely that the account holder posted something, and then the flaming kidding came in and started a schoolyard fight…”
      
      As in trying to defend extralegal powers, a massive insult of commonly understood property rights, and trying to explain why information control is a “good thing”? By of course using several easily verifiable lies.
      
      After which the people coming along correcting the lies were seen as flamers and an attacking army.
      
      Much like you do when you get upset that no one believes you to understand the most basic networking knowledge right after you’ve toted a theory about how to adress piracy roughly equivalent to claiming that fairy cobblers will be employed to put hexes on all the evil pirates.
      
      Unfortunately for you, a thousand people all saying “You Lie because [insert fact here]” does not constitute “flaming” in any normal definition.
- Ardvaark
  
  Their ego is all they have left.
  
  It’s safer for them to diss the opposing force as “flamers” and “trolls” than to take the arguments head-on, that could shatter their view on reality and that’s something they can’t afford.
Rui Fung Yip

This. Is the most amusing article I’ve read this week.
John Space

Pst! I heard Facebook is always leaking personal data. Could anyone get some on those MPAA guys? You mean, for “interacting” and “sharing views” (with a baseball bat, which is very traditional)
- We’re all anonymous here
  
  I don’t think you realize how small Iceland is, 320k total people.
  
  I can go on my online bank right now and get his social security number, full name, address etc.
  
  He’s also listed in the phonebook with both address, phone and so on so forth.
  
  Everything here is public knowledge – we’re just mature enough to not go “beat people up” because they share different views from ours.
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    In a community such as that, a simple public shaming normally does the trick. Being known as a con man and compulsive liar does not benefit your community status.
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dds

” It is interesting to learn that some freedom fighters think that only
some voices have a place on Facebook, but it’s not surprising. ”

oh no, have the internet people been mean to you?
- ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt
  
  Notice they called them “Freedom Fighters”; what does that make SMAIS “Anti-Freedom Fighters”?
- jeremie
  
  you got kicked out, your ideas are stupid, never come back.
anon@anon.com

Why? I mean Iceland is a tiny spec in the ocean. Why waste all this money to try to make a small rural (poor) population follow laws of the USA. It makes no sense. In fact Iceland is only able to pay its bills often by going against international norms. Most of these people KNOW each other FFS they can hand each other USB Pens WTF do they need a network to do it for. Another classic waste of resources and waste of a human leech trying to get some money by fucking his own people. ^^ Since they all probably know him they should go out and fucking dump him in the sea and lets see if MPAA want some of that action again.
- Bjorn
  
  Your comment displays colossal ignorance about Iceland.
  
  Tiny? (population-wise, yes, surface-area-wise, no, it’s about the size of England)
  
  Rural? (2/3 of the country live in urban areas)
  
  Poor? (one of the richest countries in the world)
  
  Follow laws of the USA? (international WIPO agreements)
  
  Let’s keep things factual, shall we?
  - Dawwg
    
    If the country is so rich I’d like the rest of the IceSave money back please :)
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    You forgot to add the obvious. Iceland is a very liberal nation whic means it’s a very attractive place to run web services as it isn’t as easy to have your webpage shuttered on a whim as it is in the US.
    
    While at the same time having rather excellent communications.
Guest

“There are too many people here that only wants to flame us, rather than interact and share their views.”

Translation: too many people were disproving our lies and pointing out our insane hypocrisy for pirating software. We couldn’t stand up to the torrent of truth.
- Guestus
  
  Translation: “There are too many people here that only wants to flame us, rather than interact and share OUR views.”
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thorgeir

SMAIS also implied that Google where fronting money to the icelandic pirate party in a snide comment in regards to some article they posted on their page about google safeguarding privacy.
The members of the pirate party strongly objected and people got pissed off, and smais repetedly deleted comments from people criticizing them.
A complete and utter failure on their part.

On the other hand, the executive of the Icelandic equivalent of RIAA openly takes part in discussions on facebook in a civil and respectable manner.
- platyourpus
  
  “the executive of the Icelandic equivalent of RIAA openly takes part in
  discussions on facebook in a civil and respectable manner.”
  
  Than why do they treat their customers in an uncivil and disrespectful manner.
thisguy1337

“Steingrímsson said it was interesting to see that Internet “freedom
fighters” believe that only their voice should be heard on Facebook.”

Nope those were the only comments you decided to respond to. But just like their hope page jpg image, they are a fail and a fake.

I would invest is some home security. It would be hard for me to sleep at night too if I knew all of Iceland was hating me.
http://twitter.com/Paco420_Pt Paco420

Seeing as we have Grammer Police swarming the comment section yet no one points out anything useful…

Line 30 at the end… be* not ne.. X-P
- GrammarCentralStation
  
  Grammar ;)
anonymous

usual entertainment industries situation. they can only win when they have governments and law enforcement agencies doing the dirty work for them. they cant do fuck all for themselves, least of all compete in the market place. their idea of competing is to get the others removed, closed, jailed etc. as for standing up to scrutiny in a real world debate, their demise from Facebook says it all. bunch of useless, fucking wankers whose only way of acting is with total aggression.
- Guest
  
  “We can’t compete with free!”
jimbo

‘In addition, Steingrímsson said it was interesting to see that Internet
“freedom fighters” believe that only their voice should be heard on
Facebook.’

after this comment, he is lucky they did leave. everyone has a right to state their view and it certainly is a false statement that ‘internet freedom fighters’ think only their voice should be heard. what he didn’t consider but should have said was that when absolute lies and bullshit is posted, those that know the truth will put that out. and when an organisation that accuses others of wrong doing, they have to make sure they themselves are squeaky clean. obviously not the case with this bunch or indeed any of the entertainment industries.
TheyAreStupid

2013 and they still got no fucking idea how the internet works.
- Scary_Devil_Monastery
  
  2013 and they still don’t have a fucking clue how free speech works.
  
  If they’d been peddling the same message on a soapbox in a park they’d have been drowned out by the scorn of the crowd as well.
  
  What can we say? These are the people who believe someone will always own words or ideas and imagine themselves to be the gatekeeper.
A.

How can Iceland even afford to have people working on this when they have such a small population? Really confusing…
Randy_Lahey

Yours,

*Snæbjörn Steingrímsson!*.
(Sorry, I sneezed..)
Steve Rogers
2013sUxAlready

BURN IN HELL BITCHES!
Stuffz

lol peanuts for parrots

this “group” is in fact just one guy :D

who cares what the hell he is japping about.
http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

Damn it i really wanted to see the interaction on that page LOL. & it clearly shows any form of mpaa acts blind and ignorant of the action they create and in denial that when they do wrong they actually expect the general public to take their word for it. and the call everybody that disagrees with what they are doing freedom fighters.
Baba`

HAHA. GTFO the internet forever.
Caspin

I’m just glad everyone’s as passionate about internet freedom as they are about ending government lies and international child-murder (war). We can’t help but create a better world for future generations.
Guest

How does this thing called Internet works?
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Jesus

They weren’t aware of how many people use the Internet? And they were not aware of their intelligence on the facts of the organizations own actions? They had no idea anyone knew what the word Hypocrisy means? Interesting.
guess who

realy, did the expect anything else to come from this?
- Netizen
  
  They clearly haven’t got a clue about the internet.
  
  You know the type.
  
  Think the internet is just a virtual shopping mall. With some news sites and some “social networks of IRL connections”.
  
  They don’t realize that communities live their lives online and that there is a massive community of file-sharers that hate them.
  
  utorrent users ALONE are at 150 Million per month
  (more people than live in Russia)
  
  Geeze….I wonder why Anti-Pirates who want to throw people in prison and financially ruin them, can’t socially interact online ?
  It’s a mystery
JordanKratz

Good Job Icelanders ! Screw the MAFIAA !
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That_Anonymous_Coward

Sorry you got run off Facebook, but turn about is fairplay. You made sure no one listens to us in Government as you shove laws through to benefit yourselves at the expense of everyone else.
john doe

Gotta love the hysterical laughter of the commenter in the closing letter, lol

Pirate catharsis!
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http://www.facebook.com/barry.schulman Barry Schulman

Sorry but as far as I see it “Flaming” is sharing your views. They were being told straight out “We dont like you, we dont need you, get a fucking life”

How much more good constructive criticism do they want?

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