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Apple Says Audiobooks Must Have DRM

Audio DRM has all but dissapeared from MP3s. Apple said earlier this year that there would be no more DRM on music available via the ITunes music store. However, as prolific writer and blogger Cory Doctorow has found out, they still require DRM on their Audiobooks.

apple drmDRM doesn’t work. We know it, you know it and even the RIAA knows it. The FCC has had hearings on it, and even the retailers agree that it is useless, which was why Apple removed DRM from their music. Unfortunately, it’s still required for audiobooks that are sold through the iTunes Music Store.

Cory Doctorow, blogger, author and columnist, is not shy of technology or the Internet. His last book, Little Brother, covered the internet, RFID, terrorism and even the Pirate Party. Doctorow also served as the European Director for the EFF and co-founded the ORG. When it comes to DRM, he knows his stuff, and he also knows that DRM doesn’t work

So, when he wanted to release an audio version of his new book ‘Makers’ without DRM, it seemed a fairly simple prospect. The publishers, Random House Audio, were amenable to it. The problem was one of distribution. There are two major players in this area, Audible and Apple. Unlike the publishers, they are not so keen on the ‘no DRM’ position.

Audible, writes Doctorow in Publishers Weekly, turned them down flat when it came to a DRM-free version of Little Brother last year. Since they’re the only retailer on the iTunes music store, that locked out an huge market. When it came time for ‘Makers,’ this time they said yes. Apple, however, said No. audiobooks have to have DRM.

Doesn’t matter what the author or publisher wants, Apple wants DRM, so it’s DRM or nothing.

The backup plan then was just to sell via Audible. The problem then, writes Doctorow, is that while the files might not contain DRM, they come with an End User Licensing Agreement (EULA), which effectively does the same thing – DRM by contract.

DRM might be be gone from music as apple proudly proclaimed early this year, but it’s still alive and kicking. Often not because of the artist or the publisher wants it, but because it’s a store requirement. Indeed, Mr Doctorow is very happy with his publisher, telling TorrentFreak “Random House Audio has been remarkably flexible and committed to letting me sell my audiobooks without DRM and I’m incredibly grateful to them and to my editor, Amy Metsch, for all their hard work.”

Now for Apple and Audible to similarly be flexible and hard working, after all, they didn’t create the work, they’re just selling it.

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  • Sam

    Fail. They will get slammed for this.

  • themangoman

    that sucks

  • aquila92

    Apple are made of fail.

    This comment was written on an apple mac from a film studio editing suite. Epic win.

  • redmarine

    We all hate Apple. They’re Microsoft 2.0.

  • Creams

    #3 <3

  • HMS

    So even when a writer ASKS not to have DRM on his work, he cant remove it. That is some backward ass BS. Thus is the legal status quo of the entertainment industry today. Gee, I wonder why ‘illegal’ file sharing is so widespread?

    Apple has always tried to be too proprietary in everything they do.

  • DeathStalker

    I will *never* buy anything Apple – that means no iTunes, no iPod, no iPhone, no MacBook, no AirBook, no NOTHING. Period. ANYTHING they sell is available from alternate sources for much less and without their draconian restrictions. I don’t care that I’m the only person without an iPod (never even liked the design!), there are PLENTY of other (better!) mp3 players out there (and I personally do not like/want the mp4/ACC formats!)

    They will ultimately fail. As will the rest of the entertainment conglomerates.

  • Ad

    It’s not surprising. Apple are not and never have been the good guys. They make pretty and occasionally innovative products. But as a company, they’re even more blatant than MS at attempting to control what you do with their software/hardware.

    Luckily for them, they have an army of fanboys who are happy to take bullet after bullet for them, and I honestly can’t tell why.

  • anon2

    same s**t, different day! all down to control peeps. always was and always will be. just a different ‘industry’ in this case that wants to have the control. once we become the mindless, unquestioning robots these companies want us to be, doing everything we’re told when we’re told, even down to when we go for a crap, perhaps then they’ll be happy!

  • Toasty

    Apparently, Apple didn’t get the memo.

  • AlienDK

    10th!

    j/k

    Apple sucks, alot. Their stuff is overpriced and it breaks to easily. So I suggest that Mr. Doctorow releases his audiobook on bittorrent (mininova content distribution maybe? :)) and then puts a donate link in the description.

  • WEBmadman

    “they didn’t create the work, they’re just selling it.”

    That’s the key point that these Corpses just don’t get.

    They also don’t seem to get that boner moves like this erode any credibility they had in the first place- so on that front I hope they keep doing these dumb things, then, hopefully, they’ll die off faster and let the rest of us get on with it without them in the way!

  • United Hackers Association

    and i guess they are on board with screwing the blind too cause htey’ll have to somehow dole out more cash for the DRM and ebook

    ya think of the blind campaign just like they do wiht pron and htink of the children we should think of the blind and start massive torrenting of audio ebooks and other disabled items.

    IF YOU CORPORATES DON’T get your …never mind you won’t

  • CCC

    nope they won’t fail . audiobooks market is extrema small . no one will care

  • Anonymous

    If you think Apple is on par with Microsoft or worse, then you are deeply fucking clueless about Microsoft.

    When Apple starts requiring product activation, and their software starts phoning home to validate itself, and OS X forces you to reactivate it over the phone because you changed some trivial piece of hardware, and they start stealing sourcecode, and using unregistered shareware to build their commercial products, and presenting forged documents to a court of law, and paying the media as well as bloggers and internet posters to cheerlead them, and using their muscle to keep wildly defective products on the market that have resulted in billions of dollars lost and countless hours wasted, and drafting liscenses that forbid anybody from selling their products from also selling competing products, and using monopoly leverage to corrupt or destroy open standards, and complying with the copyright cartels’ every wish, and locking people into their platform, and smothering their competition by announcing grandoise vapourware, and serial murdering their own partners…

    …THEN you can claim that Apple is somewhere in the same ballpark as Microsoft. Until then, equating the two of them with eachother is like equating somebody who gives you a rug burn to somebody who sets your house on fire.

    That isn’t to say Apple’s the idealistic goodguy riding atop a white horse. That award unquestionably goes to Linux. But they aren’t the evil archvillian, either. To find corporations as bad as MS, you have to start getting in to Enron(or RIAA) territory.

    That’s without hyperbole.

  • thebottomline

    DRM doesnt work lol. If they want to waste their money/time while driving customers away then let them do it. It’s their business after all.

  • engi

    Only the terminally stupid use apple related stuff.

    Apple apparently has a supreme marketing team (and i mean SUPREME) to be able to sell those shit at the prices they do.

    MacOSX is nowhere near as good as windows/linux and should never be considered as an option. Then again, the stupidity of some people never seizes to amaze me :]

  • me

    WTF? Cory Doctorow doesn’t need Apple to sell his book. He’s got a website and he can let people buy and download his (audio-)book directly from there. Isn’t he supposed to cut middle men out of the loop anyway?

    Or he could sell it from the website of his publisher. Or if RHA doesn’t provide this, maybe he should try to convince them to offer this service for all their audiobooks?

    Furthermore, Random House Audio’s FAQ on

    http://www.randomhouse.com/audio/about/audiobookdownloadfaq.html

    also mentions (subscription-based) eMusic besides iTunes and Audible.com, and it says: “Unlike many audiobook retailers, eMusic provides audio files which do not employ Digital Rights Management technology, or DRM.”

    Kudos for Random House Audio for seeing the light w.r.t. DRM: now they just need to become their own full-service distributor.

  • dood
  • geolittle

    Does anyone have to ask why Apple is becoming one of the most hated companies in America. Apple takes their customers for granted and then rubs shi* in the customers faced.

  • Brandon

    Anything made by Apple is a Piece of Crap…

  • SplishSplash

    If DRM is supposedly ‘for protecting the works of the creators’ surely the creators themselves should decide what happens to it. It makes it plain and obvious in this case that the organisations like Apple and Audible are ONLY in it for their own gain and profit and just using copyright and DRM as a guise. WE knew this all along though…

  • pirateprideWW

    Only one thing to do here people. Don’t buy Audiobooks from Apple.

    Money is their language. Make them understand that it does not pay to use DRM.

  • mrules

    Microsoft is a so much better OS. OSX don’t sell well… and anyone wif less than half a brain knows. And if Apple were to solely rely on software alone they are finished! So they have to obscenely overpriced their fucking hardware in order to survive. I just don’t understand why those Mactards loved to be ripped just to get that piece of crap.

  • ArcaneAmoeba

    @15
    Over half of the things you mentioned happened a long time ago. Just because MS did something bad in the past doesn’t mean is continuing to do it now. I’m sure Apple has done similarly evil things, it just hasn’t gotten very much popularity (and scrutiny by the media) until recently. MS’s OS is installable on (almost) any hardware. Apple, on the other hand, has a locked up proprietary operating system that can only be run on overpriced hardware sold by the same company. And then they go and do things like this article talks about. MS may not be perfect, but it’s the lesser of two evils (currently).

  • United Hackers Association

    p,s, 75% that want audio ebooks are them damn rich blond people the riaa n mpaa hate

  • United Hackers Association

    correction
    had to lol reach for keyboard

    p.s. 75% that want audio ebooks are them damn rich BLIND people THAT the RIAA and MPAA hate so much

    ya know all of us disabled people should rise up online and really show them we mean business

    to pirates go for it corporations are failing disabled so i have no morals about anything you do with audio ebooks and tools for disabled

    NONE

  • knux

    I’m waiting for the lawsuit from Apple now stating that he has put Apple’s name in a bad light.

  • Reasoned Mind

    What a sour bunch. Apple makes (and has always made) world class products people are happy to line up to pay higher prices for. They have the highest customer satisfaction rating in the business. They’ve led the way in personal computing, legal online music distribution and telephony, a trifecta of three different industries unmatched in the history of business development.

    And the iPhone is the first true handheld computer with an app store nobody can even get near.

    It’s one thing to have a negative opinion. You guys don’t even have your facts straight.

    Oh yeah, and Apple’s stock has doubled in the past year, too. Anybody else do that in the deepest recession since 1929?

    I didn’t think so. And their tablet is next. You all suffer from the myopia of sour grapes.

  • knfmkl

    This Realsick Mind makes me sick, one moment defending for the Riaatards and then next for apple. Why does he always have to be the opposite? Just who is this Realsick Mind? Is he a sick gay? And where’s he’s Neo-Nazi gay lover?

  • Anonymous

    Really RM, your going to complain about sour grapes!
    Damned Pirates: Hollywood Sets $10 Billion Box Office Record

    This was accomplished in your words…”in the deepest recession since 1929″

    “Oh no, these filthy pirates are ruining our business!”

    You could not be a bigger hypocrite even if you tried!

  • Anonymous

    @knfmkl

    neo.na.zi|sSGuard is rubbing butt putty all over RM so don’t disturb him!

  • knfmkl

    Uh-oh my Reallysick Mind Bullshit-Detector just exploded! :0

  • Pot, meet Kettle

    “The stupidity of some people never seizes to amaze me…”

    It never CEASES to amaze me either.

  • Cujo

    apple is cool ,, when ya got nothing else to hack :D

  • Dan

    When you buy DRM’ed stuff, it’s not yours. You can’t even put it on your MP3 player.. wow.

    @ Cujo

    Apple is the worst crap ever.

  • Me

    The Pirate bay is no longer in sweden its moved to germany

  • ???

    @ 36
    fail wrong topic

    anyone who buys macs should get there brain examined but there iphone, itouch, ipod are kinda cool that is when there jailbroke ;D

  • Zarathustra

    totally of subject, but demonoid is back!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Yahoo! Demonoid is back bitches!

  • Anonymous

    This is on the home page…

    Hello!
    We are currently testing the newly written code. More downtime is hopefully not necessary, but might be a possibility. Welcome back, we missed you!

  • Bloke

    drm book = delete in my book. no drm will be downloaded and kept on my machine. Only open programs that do not limit my ability. I like to back up my stuff and if it for most drm on my stuff which I want to keep for years and years (perhapse 10 or so) it would not live with drm. By the time I may get to see whatever file again, its expired/etc. waste of bytes. http://www.sharevirus.com (ed2k/kad)

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the heads-up Zarathustra!
    Thus Spoke Zarathustra, indeed!

  • Zarathustra

    and verily I keep watch

  • Anonymous

    Can’t wait to see what neo.na.zi and uninteresting mind will have to say! More of their usual pointless, repeating ad infinitum, word vomit I would venture.

  • EOTW

    Demonoid is BACK!!!!!!!!!!

  • zeebart

    when it comes to dis-assembling RM you guys just leave me speechless…hell you just take the words right out of my mouth…thank you :)

  • zeebart

    and @19 wow thats some s**t eh?

  • Trevor

    WooHoo Demonoids up!

  • DWi

    “When Apple starts requiring product activation, and their software starts phoning home to validate itself,

    …THEN you can claim that Apple is somewhere in the same ballpark as Microsoft.”

    1: Apple doesn’t get pirated like Microsoft does. See Adobe.

    2: Apple is a piss-ant. They don’t have the power to get away with doing what Microsoft does, so they don’t. If Apple did have >50% marketshare, then watch out!

  • FlightSuit

    Yeah, never-mind this Apple nonsense; DEMONOID is back, and I can get all my audiobooks there, like the Good Lord intended!

    Can’t get on there right now, ’cause everybody is trying to go there, but just the same…

    THANK GOD DEMONOID HAS RETURNED!

    It’s the perfect Christmas present!

  • Spike

    MP3′s have never had DRM nor are capable of DRM, so I don’t know what this article is talking about.
    Unless you mean the AAC files that Apple are peddling about that mostly only work with iPods.

    Anyhow I refuse to pay for ANY music unless its in a lossless format as it isn’t worth it otherwise.

    Provide me a legal alternative for FLAC files please (and one that isn’t only available to US residents if it ever happens).

  • Toetattoo

    This is the best Christmas present ever! Demonoid is returned to us!

  • diarRIAA

    A wee bit off topic here, BUT…I think this is worth spreading the word.

    There’s a new virus out there that hijacks your IE browser, and modifies your HOSTS file to redirect thepiratebay.org to another similar looking website that asks you to login with your Username/Password. Be wary of any file that you download that says it should be run as administrator. ;)

    I had to wipe out and reinstall my computer tonight as I couldn’t seem to get it clean. I’ve been fixing computers for 30 years so I know that this is a new virus going around undetected by SpyBot, AVG, Trendmicro, etc. Luckily all of my important files are always squirreled away on a removable hard drive. ;)

    Just a word to the wise. ;)

  • Bauer

    In ten years DRM will stand for ‘Don`t Remind Me’

  • Kitty Litter

    @52 thx but who uses ie anyways? http://www.mozilla.org instead

  • FlightSuit

    Yeah boyeeeeeee!!!! Demonoid’s back, and despite the dire warnings on the site, they seem to have remembered my account, my ratio, and -most importantly- my uploads!

    If you like CHEESE, please have a look at what I’ve upped:

    http://www.demonoid.com/files/?uid=1750548&seeded=2

    As of right now, a lot of my ups are showing “no seeds,” but I have launched my torrent client, and most of ‘em should show as having at least one seed soon.

    Please forgive me if this seems like spamming. I’m just so excited!

  • lverona

    Well, they are just retailers. So they want DRM – don’t publish with them, then.

    Thing is – people still choose to publish.

  • KsbjA

    I didn’t expect such a stupid move from Apple. I bet it is just a matter of time, and Apple will give it up on DRM.

  • Colonel Gadaffi Duck

    So just sing it and have Apple publish it as a DRM-free music file…

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the heads-up diarRIAA, but like Kitty Litter said who in their right mind would use IE. I’ve been using Firefox for years now and before that opera. Screw IE and all its vulnerabilities!

    Back on topic, Demonoid has one of the best DRM free collections of audio-books in the world and was growing quite rapidly before the downtime. They also have a substantial collection of DRM free ebook collections!

    It is a really good to see the ‘noid back!

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  • Concern

    Ever stop to think that the publisher already knew of the companies policies and just agreed knowing it wouldn’t pass. Publishers are fully aware of their contracts with their distributors.

  • JIMMY BELSON

    Go to audiobooks.com or edigitalmediastore.com and you will find 1000′s of DRM free titles.

  • Niels

    Umm… the format on iTunes is just Audible…. how is this Apple saying it has to have DRM? Talk to Audible if you want it removed, but claiming this is Apple’s doing is BS.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t need an Apple when you can’t download stuff. The market will soon shrink to the few Pro’s that depend on Apple in production.
    So no mass market without freedom. Goodbye Apple I was a good customer.

  • iRobot

    You don’t need an Apple when you can’t download stuff. The market will soon shrink to the few Pro’s that depend on Apple in production.
    So no mass market without freedom. Goodbye Apple I was a good customer.

  • stefn

    Why pick on Apple. The big purveyor of book DRM is Amazon. And now Barnes and Noble. And, just as with music, book DRM will soon die. These two orgs are already competing by broadening the terms of their DRM.

    And just as with music, within a few years of Apple producing its reader, book DRM will be dead. Competition will kill it. Apple just wants to sell a cute gizmo for the content; it has no dog in the DRM fight.

    And, by the way, Microsoft will be a no-show once again. Its cannot compete in market sectors that it cannot control. It’s just not Microsoft’s millennium.

  • Ted

    What’s missing in the comments is any reasoning, other than knee jerk reactions.

    Audible.com until recently (per the article) did not sell DRM free books. They are the major source of Audio books on iTunes.

    Therefore it’s likely that the ITMS Audible section is built to require DRM. This wouldn’t be unreasonable: until just now 100% of them would have needed it. And yes, I think it’s also likely that Audio books are handled slightly differently than music.

    On an app the size of iTMS, even something that seems trivial (“Accept a non-DRM audio book from Audible.com”), might require a change to the code. To do this for one book would probably prompt the “No” from Apple. And they might have said no w/o finding out how hard it would be to change: “No, the system can’t do that.”

    Hopefully, it’s for something stupid like this, and some light on the situation will result in someone at Apple making the changes to allow DRM-free books.

    And, no, I’m not claiming that Apple doesn’t do bonehead stupid things, and some of them a bit evil. I’m just suggesting that the “no” might not be a simple cause of ‘muahahahah Evil Apple must keep DRM on Audio Books!”

  • Anonymous

    its apple, what did you expect?

  • Anonymous

    Don’t know why apple i don’t like you

  • Fred Mulligan

    Wow, this is a site full of morons. I was reluctant even to add a comment for the sheer unattractiveness of consequently being grouped into the same category as most of you.

    Yeah, #7–”DeathStalker”–thanks. I’d rather jackasses like you arrogantly deprive yourselves of the best consumer products available than be considered part of the same general market as you.

    Honestly, all you brain cell deficiency-having simpletons can ignorantly call Apple “evil” and “failures” as much as you want. You can take all of their actions personally, cry about it, and forego use of their products in some sort of pathetic, ill-conceived protest to them and everything they stand for.

    The fact is, they outrightly tell their customers what will and will not be on their front. They cut the bullshit and get to the honest truth. They don’t beat around the bush or try to skew their actions to seem beneficial to the customer when in reality they’re freedom-limiting–like a company that could accurately be described as “Microsoft 2.0″ (or for that matter, just plain old oblivious Microsoft) consistently does.

    It’s not Apple’s job to tell you idiots why they’re doing something. It’s your job to expect that a major company with a record for giving it consumers what they want, despite the trend of the day, is doing what they have to do for a good reason.

    Public companies, like Apple, have a duty to maximize value, and to maximize the company’s value, they are inclined to maximize sales. To maximize sales, they’re inclined to offer customers what they want–which we, and Apple, know is no DRM. So, if they’re still pushing DRM on audiobooks, it means there’s a damn good reason why they have to.

    Just because you don’t understand the reasons for a business action, and because that action happens to not work in your favor, doesn’t make the company evil, or its executives bastards, or anything of the sort. What it does make, is you a naive and whiney child.

    So if you feel that strongly about it, don’t buy Apple products, and stick with your perceived lesser of two evils Microsoft, which everyone knows has a great track record for cutting the BS (their bullseye marketing campaigns), straight-talking with their customers and investors (admitting Vista was a disgraceful mistake), and releasing quality products customers actually want (Zune, Windows Mobile, regular Windows, and the 50% failure rate-having XBox 360).

    Meanwhile, and in closing (thankfully), Apple doesn’t require “activation” (another straight-shooting Microsoft innovation that literally means DRM) for anything it develops in-house. I’d like to see someone go pick up a copy of Windows 7 for $30 and install it on a bunch of Win XP machines.

    To all of you in the same idealistic boat as the ubercool and individualistic “DeathStalker,” seriously, I’m thrilled I’ll never bump into you in an Apple store.

  • coolfactor

    I can’t believe the negativity against Apple. What I find most amusing are the people that say they have and never would use an Apple product, but then say that Apple products are crap. What? If you’ve never used one, how would you know?

    Apple is not evil. Control of their products and customer experience is not a bad thing. People need to change their perspectives on this to see the reality of the situation. There’s a reason Apple is doing better than most technology companies, and it’s not just higher-priced, higher-margin products.

  • Justin

    This is article is terribly researched and obviously people in the comments are more apt to believe everything they read and hate Apple rather than find out the truth for themselves. I am not defending Apple I am defending the truth and that is there is only one Major provider of Audiobooks online and that is Audible (which is owned by Amazon). Apple simply offers iTunes as a conduit for sales from Audible. Apple does not get to dictate any terms of the Audio books in their store because they are not theirs, they basically run on consignment. Get your facts straight before you start hating on anyone.

  • iRobot

    Apple is the best. That’s why I grive.

  • Anonymous

    So that’s how you really feel Fred Do Over? Thanks for your rant input.

  • Gregorio

    Cory’s audiobook in all it’s DRM-free glory is available at eMusic. Check it out http://www.emusic.com/audiobooks/book/Little-Brother-MP3-Download/10015880.html

  • Ranger

    lol apple fails yet again.. hey hows that iphone going for you all?

    il stick to an open source droid k thnx bai.

  • rakiru

    …and this is why sensible people do not buy audiobooks, and pirate them.

  • Ninja

    Put aside some nice gadgets and hardware, Apple fails at the rest.

    Removing DRM is a piece of cake so let them think they are protecting something… If you don’t like being forced with DRM protected stuff just download from bt =D

    I got some DRM crap once for content I had previously downloaded on bt. The disc has been used only once in 5 years lmao… In fact I don’t even know where it is hahaha

  • redbaron

    Why do the guys from Apple think they are so special? They have their own standards that are NOT compatible with the standards that EVERYONE else is using. You have to convert and do sh*t when you want to use it on a stupid Mac.

    DRM is proved to be a pile of dung. Audible and Apple agree with that and nonetheless they want to use it. What the hell?

  • Bunny

    @15 and other Apple losers

    Apple truly IS evil. Apple products are the most unreliable in the world, and lack tools and features while being two to three times the price for what you get.

    You fanatics are also nothing more than posers. Losers incapable of doing anything more than surfing the net and making crappy home movies on iMovie/final cut How do I know? Because as any professional that has lived through Apples evil heap of faulty hardware and software can tell you, OSX eats HDDs. If you use your machine for ay real intensive tasks, then you get no more than 12 months use out of a HDD with OSX installed on it. If however you are a poser who likes to claim you are creative because you purchased an overpriced fashion accessory, then you will never push your hardware, and thus never live through the dead HDD problems. I myself lived through 12 or 13 dead HDDs on my five Macs before I swirtched back to Windows (Happily.. it is still party time at my studio because Windows is so much better)… almost 18 months later, the only OSX machine still in the office has still got a working HDD… because it is used as the only online machine (typing this up on a 17 inch MBP that is only good enough to use as an internet surfing machine). Please note… not used as a professional graphics machine, and the HDD is working well after 18 months. Coincidence? Hell No!

    There are many other problems with Apple hardware and software, not to mention how EVIL and STUPID Apple execs are… the list is far far far too long to list here.. I could write a series of articles about it from my own personal experiences.

    But to 15, that list is seriously incorrect… having lived through Apple and their shit, 80% of the crap you assume Apple have not done, they have done… and you still did not add all the other evil things they do… Like having the most expensive dongles on their OS and software in the world, the fact that they knowingly kill off their developers… when they want to get into a new field of software, like iTunes, they knowingly destroy the whole market for specific types of software. Like when animals eat their offspring. Hell, even Steve Jobs is an evil ghoul! He used his money and fame to jump the que for a transplant organ… meaning some little girl who had been on the waiting list for 4 years missed out and died… some child almost certainly died so he could grab a few more evil years. It isn’t as if they could make another donated organ.

  • Reasoned Mind mitch and mtch bainwhore

    i love drm it gives copyright boys the illusion of control all the while allowing us to crack it without difficulty and share files with ease.
    seriously guys drm is great do you know how much it costs the industry each year, they can’t keep this up much longer

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  • Pook

    He really should have insisted it was a new form of concept album!

  • Mark

    I love all the idiots here, who can’t even speak English, commenting about how Apple is “becoming the most hated company in America,” when every single consumer survey and ranking has the at or near the top. Keep whining, children.

  • Reasoned Mind

    @85. It’s all true, Mark. Well said.

    The facts never got in the way here at TorrentFreak.

    :-)

  • Anonymous

    Nor do the facts ever sink into your noggin!

    Warner, Sony BMG, EMI and Universal face up to $6 billion in damages for pirating a massive 300,000 tracks.

    Hollywood.com box-office analyst Paul Dergarabedian said: “With numerous huge films still on the way, we are poised for the first $10 Billion
    year at the box-office, a milestone that has never been reached in the history of the box-office.”

  • Anonymous

    Firing another broadside at RM…

    From the IFPI website…

    London, 16th January, 2009

    “Global digital music sales grow as music industry develops new business models”

    The digital music business internationally saw a sixth year of expansion in 2008, growing by an estimated 25 per cent to US$3.7 billion in trade value. Digital platforms now account for around 20 per cent of recorded music sales, up from 15 per cent in 2007. Recorded music is at the forefront of the online and mobile revolution, generating more revenue in percentage terms through digital platforms than the newspaper (4%), magazine (1%) and film industries (4%) combined.

    IFPI Digital Music Report 2009 PDF File (Anonymoused for your protection!)

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  • oolev

    The majority of Mac users are gays

  • oolev

    Haha Neo.na.zi is not here… we have Muck instead.

  • @paulmikos

    It is impossible to sell an audiobook through iTunes without going through Audible, and they keep 70-88% of what is left after Apple keeps their 30%–and Audible’s only role is to add DRM. If you follow that math on a $10 audiobook, Apple keeps $3, Audible gets $6.16, and the author and publisher each get $0.42. No thanks. http://www.bit.ly/4HT85z

  • eon2010

    book publishing falls into an entirely different category of consumables being that books aren’t offer on an all you can eat basis except in the library. In one way it’s the last category to come fully accepted in the digital age. So, it is natural that there would be more resistance to it being given away freely in a buy one download many manner. Also there is the stigma that people don’t read as much but this has been changing due to such blockbusters such as Harry Potter so the future generation may become much more book savvy than the previous. Everything will probably come down to DMR free once every users downloading activity becomes monitored anyway.

  • kenny

    Don’t know why apple i don’t like you..
    WBR, kenny
    http://filesmixx.com

  • John TN

    What? And you people call yourself intelligent? Do you realize that Apple is who made it legal to music on the web, period! The then DRM on music was required by the music industry. Once again, the DRM on audio books is only a result of the big publishing companies that won’t allow the product in iTunes without DRM. Your frustration and anger are pointed at the wrong company, it’s not Apples fault.

  • stefn

    Loser readers; Loser site. Get a Mac and grow up.

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  • Anonymous

    Why do people love this company so much? They are just another corporation in a sea of corporate greed?

    I mean Apple uses Foxcon Corp mainboards. Toshiba/Fujitsu Harddrives, Gskill OEM or others Memory… Sony Optical drives… and Samsung/AsusTek LCD/LEDs…

    Last I heard, those are all Corps.

    STOP LIVING FOR THE CORPORATE OLIGARCHY

    Whats the difference anyways? The OS? The trend factor? The douche factor?

    Its all the same. I mean honestly, STOP SEEING EVERYTHING IN TWO, SIMPLE DUMB DOWNED WAYS. Apple vs. Microsoft, Democrat Vs. Republican, Good vs. Evil. I mean, isn’t it SICK there are only TWO major proprietary operating systems in the world? Anyone stop to ask themselves WHY? Why do your schools force you to use one mega corporations OS?

    STOP BEING SHEEPLE.

  • John TN

    Another dumb comment. Out of contex. We are talking about DRM. People are mad at Apple. They should educate themselves. DRM has always been pushed by the oweners of propritary data, music, books… Etc… To protect it’s percived value.

    What does Apple, or Microsoft for that matter have to do with it? DRM

    GET USED TO IT

  • alansky

    All you idiots who are bashing Apple for supporting DRM are forgetting that Steve Jobs singlehandedly challenged the music labels to abolish DRM for music. If Apple is supporting DRM for audiobooks, they are doing so because of their contractual obligations as sellers of copyrighted content.

  • Ed H.

    Slight problem. There is only one major player: Audible.

    Apple just re-sells for Audible. (Go download an audiobook from Apple, the very first thing you hear when you hit ‘Play’ is “This audio program is presented by Audible.com. Audible – audio that speaks to you, wherever you are.”)

    Audible doesn’t do DRM-free, therefore, neither does Apple. Convince Audible to drop DRM, and Apple will immediately follow. I don’t know where this claim of Audible not having DRM came from; if I want to play my Audible-downloaded .aa file, I have to authorize the computer. There is hope, though. Audible is now owned by Amazon; which was an early adherent of no-DRM for music.

  • Anonymous

    @Bunny

    Wow. How much did Microsoft pay you to write that epic bullshit?

    I hope it was alot, because that was seriously impressive. OS X ruined 12 hard drives? Steve Jobs murdered a little girl?

    I give your paid trolling 5 stars for entertainment. Reasoned Mind should take notes.

    You get 0 starts for honesty, though. Windows is the most unstable, unsecure, DRM infested OS in existence, made by a corporation that stands for everything that filesharing stands against. If a person hates Apple then for the love of God support Linux, or Haiku, or some other open source operating system without any commercial interest behind it. If you value free and open culture whatsoever, then supporting Microsoft of all things is beyond retarded. If anybody here is using Windows, then I hope they pirated it.

    And if anybody here actually likes Windows and calls it a quality product, then I have to laugh. Ever wonder how the copyright cartels managed to brainwash artists into defending them? Look in a mirror. Microsoft pulled the same number on you.

  • Barry

    a hacker who hates apple products is a lazy script kiddie hacker. it’s unix you dolts. grow up and read something.

  • Barry

    and kudos to anon for “If a person hates Apple then for the love of God support Linux, or Haiku, or some other open source operating system”.

    i cannot take any hacker seriously who know only one tool. i’m also not going to hire your immature butt.

  • smart hand

    i like apple,
    i like iphone.
    i like ipod touch.
    more vistist my site:
    http://smart-hand.appspot.com

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  • Pensive

    “after all, they didn’t create the work, they’re just selling it.”

    To salesmen, this is not at all self-evident. In fact they would probably argue the opposite, than anyone can create something, but it takes *genius* to sell it.

  • Anonymous

    Got an 500 internal server error here in NL, too bad
    But I’m sure they’ll get it up and running within a month or so

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