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Author Slams eBook Piracy, Son Outs Her As a Music Pirate

As part of an article investigating the growing phenomenon of eBook piracy, a Scandinavian news outlet interviewed a 19 year-old self-confessed pirate who bragged about his activities. To counter his viewpoint a well known author contributed to the piece, stating that she abhors book piracy since it costs her huge amounts of money. However, her moral stance took a bit of a beating when her son let an embarrassing fact slip out.

ragbeThis weekend Dagens Næringsliv ran an article about book piracy in which they interviewed 19-year-old Christian Berntsen, a self-confessed book pirate with eyes on the big time. With desires to become “one of the big boys”, Berntsen admitted to running servers in Lithuania which he believes are safe due to their location.

“Books are priced too high,” said Berntsen when justifying his work. “One of the reasons why the pirate world is so big, is that publishers take crazy prices for something that isn’t even in physical form.”

To counter his viewpoint, DN also interviewed Anne B. Ragde, an award-winning author. Unsurprisingly, Ragde isn’t a huge fan of eBook sharing. In order to thwart piracy, she refused to allow her latest novel to be released as an audiobook since the format is popular with file-sharers and also denied the publication of Russian and Chinese versions.

“Piracy scares the hell out of me. I do not know what to say. I lose sleep at night over it,” said Ragde. “I have figured out that I’ve lost half a million kroner ($72,500) on piracy of my books, maybe more.”

Like many who oppose file-sharing and other forms of copying, Ragde goes on to equate copying with theft and shares her sympathies with those in the music industry.

“I can not stand the thought of someone stealing something. I look at Norwegian musicians who have to do live concerts. We have nothing to live on other than the physical product,” she said.

In response to a question about her habits when it comes to buying or otherwise acquiring copied or counterfeit items, Ragde’s anti-piracy halo slipped more than a little.

“Pirated handbags? Yes, I do buy them,” she said. “I feel that the genuine Prada bags have such an inflated price.”

Ragde then reportedly went on to list many other items she’s bought legitimately but was kindly assisted with a further confession by her son, Jo. If her halo had slipped with the bag admission, it was now set to strangle her.

“You have a pirated MP3 collection,” Jo added, helpfully. “We copied the first 1500 songs from one place and 300 from another.”

“Yes,” admitted Ragde. “There were a lot of things on the iPod.”

Olav Torvund, a professor at the Center for Law at the University of Oslo slammed Ragde as having a set of double standards.

“You’d think that a writer whose income is completely dependent on her rights being respected, would also respect the rights of others,” Torvund said.

“When Anne B Ragde exposed her double standards and made a fool out of herself in Dagens Næringsliv as she did, she has only one thing left to do: Buy the 1800 music tracks that she downloaded to her iPod, so that musicians and composers get their rightful royalty.”

“Burn the counterfeit bags. And come with an apology to all those whose rights she has violated.”

In a follow up to the revelations published in the interview, Ragde tried to defend herself by saying the quotes had been taken out of context. She also went on to blame the music piracy on her son while insisting she’s always been against illicit file-sharing.

“The stuff on my ipod is not representative of my relationship with the music industry and the products they produce. I pay for my music,” she insisted.

Ragde says that the ipod is in storage somewhere in her cottage so when she goes there to celebrate Christmas she will pull it out and delete all the music.

And as a reward for his ‘help’ with the interview, little Jo’s presents will probably be hand delivered by Ebeneezer Scrooge this year.

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  • Eight3

    smoking killz

  • Anonymous

    I have over 100,000 ebooks pirated. I would have never purchased them as there are no jobs here and I have been downloading books since maybe 8 years ago. I haven’t read most of them but many of them are collections/book packs. I sometimes come across them and then read a little and then delete them if I find them not interesting. If they are good enough to keep, I don’t delete them and place them in a folder (shared). I would have never heard of these writers or books had the net not been around and had they not been shared. I thank anon for sharing and caring. I have also came across some good manga and loli comics that are awesome. The author was nice enough to upload his work to the internet so anon can view as you can’t purchase loli & manga everywhere.

  • Barse

    Does she think she looks cool smoking a fag?

  • woody

    blame it on the son. poor kid

  • Anonymous

    I also like hentai and alot of great artist have uploaded their content to the net to get a wider audience and cater to their fans. They post a donate link on their site if you like their content. Its kind of the same as how many firefox add on developers add the donate button on their page if you like their item. They give it to you for free and if like it enough, you will pay to help develop more great stuff. In other news, I have thrown away hundreds of books as they were not worth keeping and have decided to store books on my computer instead as it takes up less space and doesn’t get all old and weathered like books. I think if I do purchase a book in the future, I will scan it and keep it in digital format as it can then have an infinite life as opposed to the pages getting all messed up with age.

  • Anon

    It aint easy making a living as an author or an artist anymore thanks to all the thieves here. Get a job you thieves.

  • Artemis

    LOL, she’s such an idiot. And you can send a msg to her son here: http://twitter.com/#!/jobragde

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  • Maxime

    6:

    Obvious troll is obvious and troll obviously is troll.

  • Flying Dutchman

    When she goes bankrupt because of piracy (I doubt it), she can always get a job within the ranks of the MAFIAA. She would fit in perfectly…

    - Comparing File-Sharing to Stealing.
    - Hypocrism.
    - Blaming their actions on someone else but themselves.
    - Whining about how Piracy hurts their financials.
    - Living in the Stone Age.

    @6 Maybe you can send her a Job Application Form? She has the potential to work for your MAFIAA masters. You could be her Trolling Mentor, learning her the fine craft of “MAFIAA Trolling”

  • Just a guy

    I have downloaded a ton of e books,I haven’t read most of them. I could not afford to buy those books and would not buy them because I seem to download stuff I don’t even read.

    The only reason I downloaded most of them it’s because they are just floating there and I have a habit of collecting useless stuff…

  • Anonymous

    Home Baking kills Bakeries

  • Anonymous

    Copyright causes piracy and kills itself LOL!

  • Angry Voter

    Copying a book is not piracy.

    Invading a country, murdering civilians and stealing their oil – THAT is piracy.

    Swindling from taxpayers and then going back for seconds and then kicking people out of their homes to freeze for Christmas – THAT is piracy.

    Losing an election and having your father who used to run the CIA and your brother who appoints the monkeys who count the votes cheat and make you president – THAT is piracy.

  • 2late

    @6 Poor You!

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  • Anonymous Goat

    #6

    just shut up…

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  • skybon

    Now THAT is a fail.

  • Spc

    I simply love her moral standards!
    Dump bitch!

  • Fuego

    I know a professional writer. She knows better than to act like her book is entitled to any more sales than it gets. She knows it’s just not an occupation that more than a handful of people get really rich doing, so for most authors, it has to be a labor of love, just like every other artistic endeavor throughout the ages. Her private feelings on piracy are that the value of the art is in people’s love for it, so the more people who get to enjoy it, the better, even if it’s hers. She knows there will always be a market for quality product at reasonable prices, just as there will always be a market for free, unauthorized file trading, and she’s pragmatic about it. Like Anne Ragde, she even listens to music and reads books she didn’t pay for. However, she’s in a very difficult position, because to go public with that kind of opinion is to bite the hand that feeds. If the publisher or any of the major buyers were to get wind of it, then her and her agent’s names, and the publisher itself, would be poison in the industry. She’d never get published by any reputable house again. The only alternative would be to go the self-published/unedited route, which, unlike in music, carries with it zero street cred and minimal chances of success. Authors who want to be taken seriously depend on the formalities of the publishing industry much moreso than musicians depend on the record companies. So if she has to go on the record about that kind of thing, she’ll make statements very much like those of Ms. Ragde: ostensibly anti-piracy, even though it makes her a big hypocrite. I’m not saying Ragde is insincere, just that there’s no way to know for sure. So this attempt to vilify her over hypocrisy is just a lame exercise in ad hominem.

  • =3

    Having fun
    Isn’t hard
    When you’ve got
    A library card

    Seriously, who buys books? Upper class snobs, maybe pretentious students?

  • spc

    Hehe… I meant dumb, but sure one can dump on her !
    BTW,
    @ Anonymous 100000 ebooks, you won’t even read them, so what’s the point ??

  • Aredt

    #6 is a retarded h0mo

  • The Dutch

    If books were reasonably priced there would be no/less piracy. This is the fault of greedy people like this worthless author, who is selfish enough to talk shit about her rights and at the same time violate the same rights from other people.

  • Christoph T.

    funny what she says : “I look at Norwegian musicians who have to do live concerts” I mean if you dont like giving concerts as a musician – you should start thinking about doing sth else. I recall an interview with a French group (I think it is Massila Sound System) when some of the guys point out that live performing is the thing about making music – make people dance, sing and have a good time…

  • hmm

    haha silly old bat

  • Anonymous

    @11

    Sharing Coca-Cola recipe kills Coke.

    Sharing Big-Mac recipe kills McDonalds.

    oh Sh1t… Sharing these thoughts.. fuk Im deaddd

  • Nabajoe

    as a visually impaired person I’d just like to tell her to go fuck herself with a fake prada bag for not letting audio versions of her books be made.
    That’s all.

  • Anonymous

    @19 Ledgend phrase..

    Having fun
    Isn’t hard
    When you’ve got
    A library card

  • How come those who oppose piracy the most fervously don’t seem to mind it at all as long as they’re the ones doing it? Selfish much?

  • Anonymous

    @27 That’s why it can’t be stopped. Even the ones opposing it are doing it.

  • 3bola

    This is the same dude (2 guys, one American and Norwegian) behind http://www.torrentmybooks.com that TF wrote about earlier this year.

  • Acce

    BULLSH*T! We all share! We should interview the kids of all actors, singers, producers, writers, crew and artists, to see if all the music in their ipods and all their digital videos are legit!

  • Jean Chicoine

    I’m a writer (in French), a not very well known writer, but that’s not the point. The point is: when I decided to write I knew I wouldn’t make a living of it. So far I’ve got two novels published, I’m writing a third one and I want my words spread, that is to say: I’m for all form of piracy, err, I mean, file-sharing. I really don’t care if people download my books. If they pay, they pay. If they don’t pay, they don’t pay. Who cares! That’s not where I make my money.
    The old paradigm of artists retribution is over. It doesn’t work anymore, if it ever really worked at all. A new paradigm is slowly emerging through the internet and those who refuse to adapt will be left behind.
    So, to all of those goons and goonettes who whine against file-sharing and who equate it with stealing, I’ve got only this to say: get lost!

  • ArmoRus

    ah more fun with dumb ppl

  • Irate Pirate

    Typically bad parent. Throw your child into the fire if that is what it takes to save your own skin. They always miss an important opportunity to admit their mistakes and teach their child an important lesson about responsibility.

    So now she plans to delete all those songs on her iPod, as if that makes everything alright. I guess the lesson to take from this is that it is ok to download and enjoy pirated material, so long as you delete it all when you’re done. Sounds good to me.

  • Ahem

    Think her double standards are bad? Come to america, our entire system revolves around them!

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  • dude

    “And as a reward for his ‘help’ with the interview, little Jo’s presents will probably be hand delivered by Ebeneezer Scrooge this year.”

    LOL
    Oh enigmax, I just love your writing.

  • superkuh

    This sounds literally unreal. Is it some kind of pro-piracy group setting up a scarecrow argument to make fun of the opponent views? She’s absurd.

    Surely she knows she’s absurd?

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  • BlastTyrant

    Every musician I’ve ever met that whined about piracy had thousands of dollars worth of pirated recording software installed on their laptop. Seems this lady is cut from the same cloth.

  • johnson

    hypocritical bitch! cant bare to have her work ‘stolen’ and lose money but it’s ok for her to ‘steal’ works produced by others, costing them money! then complains about the price of genuine articles, like Prada! what an absolute f*****g moron!

  • DJDANKVT

    Fooking hippocrites

  • solved!

    “pull it out and delete all the music.”

    So that’s all I have to do when the RIAA comes knocking?

  • Lucian Armasu

    eBooks need to go free/ad-based. I was hoping Google would do that if they actually wanted to pose a threat to Amazon. I definitely wouldn’t want Adsense on my ebooks, but since most books are going to be read on tablet devices, then ads like the mobile ads from Admob are perfectly acceptable!

    They would appear at the bottom of each page, just like they would for an Android app. I think authors may even be able to make more money than if they sold their books.

    Just look at Angry birds on Android. It’s been downloaded a few million times and it’s making $1 million EACH MONTH.

    Surely a book with ads like that could get a lot of revenue, too.

  • dg100

    @19, by =3:

    (a) I like the rhyme and libraries are fantastic.

    (b) “Who buys books?” You’re an American.

    :D

  • dg100

    @36, by Superkuh:

    Of course she knows. And don’t call us Shirley. :D

  • 42turkeys

    Absolutely PWNED!

  • Michael Z. Williamson

    I make my living as an author. So-called “piracy” doesn’t bother me. It’s a zero sum game.

    Would any of the people downloading torrents of my stuff have paid for it in the store? If not, they’ve gained something, but I have not lost any potential sale–they wouldn’t have been a sale.

    In the meantime, I get additional name recognition, and if the person likes my stuff, they may make a purchase in future.

    Why should I or the publisher waste time tracking down these people?

    Then, there are those who are unemployed, impoverished, in school and broke. Please, enjoy the downloaded copy as a gift. When your circumstances improve, by all means buy something from me.

  • The Terminator

    @1 Eight3

    Classic!

  • 2332

    http://www.Newtonslinks.com
    my new site about everything cool

  • geez

    this r fail

  • non

    enovels are just so overpriced. In the UK a top selling novel can be up to 4 times more expensive than it’s paperback version. I bought an ebook reader last year but so far have only purchased one book for it. Not too concerned as I prefer authors from the Victorian and Edwardian era. I can dl these free from sites such as http://www.gutenberg.org

  • Yeah

    Cheers @ #46.

  • Fredde

    500,000:- in Norwegian Kronor is 84,200:- USD.

  • Peter

    Musicians who ‘have’ to do live-concerts ?
    My God, what’s next,
    singers who have to sing and actors who have to act ?

  • Nat

    What a dumb hypocritical CUNT

  • HelpDDos

    That was a hilarous interview :L

  • Bookie

    Nothing like being caught as a hypocrite. I would say the double standard is it only matters when it effects ME financially.

    I have to admit I discovered my favorite author just by downloading one audio book. Since then I have purchased the new releases when they come out.

    If they want to stop book sharing then:
    They should push to ban libraries.
    And used book stores? Lost revenue, people should have to buy a new copy.

  • Eric

    There’s a difference between file-sharing and illegal file-sharing.

    As a musician, I don’t care if an artists releases their work for free or asks for donations.

    The problem I have is when someone else decides that they’re going to distribute copies of the music, despite having no legal right to do so. If I choose to give away music (and I do, on occasion), I have the right to. If you buy my CD and then copy it for all your friends, I have a problem with that.

  • Me

    “The stuff on my ipod is not representative of my relationship with the music industry and the products they produce. I pay for my music,” she insisted.”

    Unfortunately the music indisttry will not be accepting your position that you both download and buy music.
    All studies showing how downloaders also like to buy music have not been recognised by those that sell music.
    To them you are still a thieving pirate robbing them of sales.

  • Joe

    As long as I can walk into a library and read your books I’ll never buy them. I have been disappointed by too many things I have bought.

  • lols

    Fuck that cunt. What a piece of shit hypocrite. Shes all talk, no cock.

    She says she hates pricey but then the iPod… lols? definitely…

    I wonder how many people in the MPAA and RIAA pirate shit…

    Shit, these people are on the same level as rapists and pedophiles…

  • To Jean Chicoine

    Hey there.

    After reading your comment I actually went to amazon to see if they have any of your stuff in English with an intent to buy, but unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be any.

  • Violated

    Here is a perfect example of your average hypercritical artist.

    Piracy of her books have been an obvious concern and she blames lost sales on piracy. Try the recession hon.

    This is a wake up call to her. Fake Prada and thousands of MP3 downloads.

    And here is the moment it all clicked and she is left red faced and trying to cover her mistake. She does to others what others do to her.

    Well if she is a religious woman than right here is what God does punish people for. If you do bad acts to others than God can forgive you for your sins. But if others do the same to you and you refuse to forgive them then God will summon you and punish you for your sins as you punished others.

    My only mystery is who wants Prada anyway? Instant enrollment into the Prada whore club.

  • Anonymous

    “Buy the 1800 music tracks that she downloaded to her iPod, so that musicians and composers get their rightful royalty.”

    ya right!

    So that the corporations of parasites and their criminals executives get all the money and the musicians and composers get zip this mean!

  • anon

    @ Barse Does she think she looks cool smoking a fag?

    No more than any other fool that sucks beer from a bottle or thinks a night in the pub is ‘cool’.

  • Ry

    Why is her name spelled different every other time Ragbe Ragde?? This confuses me.

  • in.cog.nito

    What’s the difference between downloading a book, and borrowing it from the library?

    Nothing.

    What’s the difference between downloading a movie and borrowing it from the library?

    Nothing.

    What’s the difference between downloading a song and listening to it on youtube/ the radio?

    Nothing.

    Fuck these stupid old stone age thinking retards. Die MPAA / RIAA.

  • anon

    legit lulz over here

  • Jean Chicoine

    @ 60
    No, you won’t find my books in English. I write in French. My books are published here:
    http://www.livres-disques.ca/editions_ble/products/product_detail.cfm?id=6432

  • me

    So she has a cottage where she celebrates xmas? Whoa, those pesky pirates must really make that woman bleed, only ONE cottage? Seriously, hasn’t the internet tortured her enough already?

  • amouse

    she is a hypocrite and liar! she loves lung cancer and should die!

  • PL Plucker

    Publishers should do like other companies and give books away or find a way to let the public read them for free. Like Image Comics did for The Walking Dead.

  • Doink

    shes a phuckin hypocrite cancerous bitch

  • moggy

    i buy tons of books on Ebay usually
    ex library books for a buck or two
    most have never been taken out . and $25 and up new. only $3 to 4 shipping from the UK great bargain

  • Biffo

    Grow up you stupid old bitch

  • It’s just like

    “Knock-off Nigel” and his dirty knocked off CDs/DVDs he sells in the pub.

    Posting on TF gonna be difficult when the internet is cut off due to infringement

  • Ad

    Throw your son to the wolves? What a great mother.

  • tosser

    Amazon ebooks actually cost more than a hard copy delivered to your house. For something with zero material costs and next-to-zero distribution costs – that is a joke. What did they expect?

    The best place to get your books is from a charity shop – cool old editions, dirt cheap and for a good cause too.

    And reading on screen is a horrible experience. Save your eyes.

  • Annon

    Just like to point out that we use “Kroner” not “Kronor” in Norway, and you seem to have typed “Ragbe” instead of “Ragde” alot of times.

    Just thought you would like to know Enigmax ^^

  • Anonymous

    everyone find anything written by Anne B. Ragde, and pirate the shit out of it!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Appeal to hypocrisy. Just because she is guilty of the ‘bad’ thing that she accused him of, that doesn’t mean that it’s ‘okay’ (or ‘wrong’).

    That said, piracy doesn’t cost her a single cent. In order for it to cost her money, a pirate must actually steal money she already had from her. As it stands now, when someone pirates her books, she’s left completely unaffected.

  • alex

    Lol is it better to not release an audio book (make $0 from audiobook sales) than to put the audiobook out there? Damn, the stupidity. I’m sure at least one person would have bought it. And if she doesn’t break even, it means people don’t like her work enough to pay whatever price she set for it.

  • Brian

    @46

    I like the way you think. Very good!

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    @1 obesity as well

  • SadGrammarPanda

    @75
    I just read the article and got infuriated out of the amount of times the name was switched. I didn’t even realize the “Kronor” mix up. I love the site, and almost everything written on it. But as a writer this make me a sad panda. Take two seconds out of your day before you click the “submit” button and proof your work. It actually doesn’t even get to me when people misspell things that badly. but blatantly switching back and forth between the spellings made me go nuts.

  • IndelibleBonobo

    Why are we so loss-averse? She’d be gaining notoriety and exposure from a wider dissemination of her works and she’d most likely end up making more money, yet she prefers to sabotage herself.
    See also Friedman’s ideas, who wanted to be pirated, as he understood his mission to be that of an educator, not a profit maker.
    Pfff! Humans..

  • wouldyoulookatthat

    Hypocrisy: is the state of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have.

  • Anonymous

    to the moralfags complaining about the journal entry and spelling and etc, instead of complaining, if you dont like it, write your own blog instead and everyone else can complain to you instead as you like to complain.

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  • Miz’

    >It ain’t easy making a living as an author or an artist anymore,,,

    how about making some good products that people might want to buy, instead of making the same half-assed shit??

  • whatev

    this article made my day.

  • Anonymous

    Christian Berntsen, eBook pirate: “Books are priced too high”

    Anne B. Ragde, eBook piracy “victim”: “Pirated handbags? Yes, I do buy them. I feel that the genuine Prada bags have such an inflated price.”

    This. Right there. Forget all the music she pirated, the handbag thing alone makes her such a hypocrite it’s surreal. Buying fake Prada shit for the SAME EXACT REASON Bernsten pirates eBooks.

    Yet she calls Berntsen wrong.

    Okay, that’s it, Moron of The Year Award goes to Anne Ragde. Sorry, Alexander Crossley, I think we all expected you to win but this bitch just came out of nowhere at the last second. :(

  • jojo

    no matter your stance on pirating content, this person is an idiot.

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  • meh

    From maybe 2 or 3 years ago, every artist in all fields knew about filesharing and potential damage…

    They chose to keep on being artists, singers, authors. They could have gone and been milkmen or shepherds…

    from now on really, any artist who bitches about “loss of earnings” (heheh) should be told to go get a real job where their earnings can’t be stolen.

    This is the world now creative people, all of you who say so many times in interviews how great your careers are, how you’d do them for free… that’s about to be put to the test.

    I’d love to be a writer and if it paid the equivalent of minimum wage I would be happy, if it let me work at home, my own schedule and let me tell stories. Who honestly needs millions?

    Are you artists for art’s sake or for the sake of a huge house and 200 marlboro a day?

    Piracy will help rid us of manufactured culture cynically made and marketed with no inherent artistic value. (well I certainly didn’t mention Dan Brown… you must be imagining things….)

    Final thought: amazon kindle books costing more than hardback versions. What the FECK is that all about?!

  • Randy Seifer

    Cool pose w/ cigaret, huh? (we do know how it smells [stinks] around you) Unfortunately it kills other people too. She willingly shares that with everyone in her vicinity; but that’s different isn’t it? It’s ALWAYS different when YOU do it. It’s fashionable to be a hypocrite these days, very vogue and chic. (really? Prada? legit scams; how unique!) Why is there nothing newsworthy in her opinions and judgments (rhetorical). She’s shamming herself into shame. That much IS amusing.
    People are funny, in a sheepish and predictable way; thus, Prada. And pandering.

  • amuse

    Seriously, how can I steal e-books? I wont buy an e-reader ‘cos too poor to pay that much per book, when i read 5-7 books per week.
    i buy second-hand books for 20 cents and then re-donate them anywhere i can. But i am drowning in books, literally, as i get older and can’t carry them out fast enough. A kindle would solve the problem but it would be a 100 dollar a week habit. So, Kids, help Granny out and tell me how to do this. Before i end up on Hoarders.

  • DERP

    So, according to MAFIAA (and herself), her son is a thief and should pay for all the damages he’s caused.

  • Randy Seifer

    Michael Z. Williamson (46?) Nailed it spot on. This is an example of a MODERN thinker. Giving away samples is a classic business model standard, which in this situation is golden (gold Easter eggs). Others would be wise to follow suit however they can; and the more complete the freebie the more impact it has on future considerations. Simple; no?
    (and I’m not talking ’bout EVERY situation; geezeus!)

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  • Penderghast

    There is absolutely no evidence that she lost any money from piracy. Chances are if she did lose sales because of it they are much, much lower than she or her publisher is willing to admit… to themselves.

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  • Citizen Dos

    I’m always amused by producers, developers, artists, and mostly RIAA lawyers who cry out, “Piracy is costing us $15 trillion billion dollars” They are just flat out lying and they know it. Some are just repeating what they’ve heard, “piracy is costing me money” And, some try to use simple math and projections to prove to themselves that they’ve suffered some loss. All are flawed. Think about it like this. Say you spent 20 friggin years writing a book. No one cares. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON. You could spend thousands of dollars on equipment and hundreds of hours authoring the most beautiful song in the world. All of that “investment” means NOTHING. It has no value and if you dropped off the planet along with your book or song tomorrow, with no one knowing it, there is no monetary loss, no cost. Now, I suppose the speculation might come from viewing some trend based on historical sales. Say you sold 5 copies last week and with the press of a button you generated 10 copies for 10 customers this week. Wow! Sales are doubling every week. So… next week you might sale 15 or 20 copies. Oh no, pirates have a copy now and your sales dropped to 0. Surely, your “losses” must be attributed to piracy. Piracy must be costing you 20 sales, and then 40, and then 80…. o my, you could just go on and on with this speculation. Maybe, piracy has cost you a trillion sales. Nothing is stopping you from claiming this. After all the RIAA and every other producer out there is using about the same speculative forumla. See anything wrong with that formula yet? Finally, there is one other fact that must be weighed. People who cannot afford to buy and people who choose not to pay above some amount and people are are just outright set on stealing cannot be factored as potential customers nor assumed that they will convert to customers. If you learn beyond a shadow of doubt that 1000 people got a copy of your stream of bits, your digitized ethereal ideas, and they paid nothing for it, you can’t think that they would have ever given you money instead. They can’t be converted, and thus they can’t be factored in as “losses”. Since you haven’t physically lost anything, you are not harmed or worse off because those 1000 people heard or read your words. I can’t even imagine that an author would argue that having 1000 more people thinking about them and their works is a bad thing. Those people certainly will not pay for something they’ve already read, viewed, or heard, but their is now a significantly higher probability (greater than the previously described zero probability) that these people WILL buy future compositions… if you don’t drop off the planet and your ideas, your words, are widely popular and accepted.

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  • ilold

    You poor bloggers, my ad/flash blockers aren’t making you any money. As for books, music, and movies… go back to making products worth paying for, and then we’ll negotiate. If the kids couldn’t pirate the stuff, they wouldn’t bother with it otherwise.

  • whose ripping who off?

    @ the author in the article: Get stuffed (and do the kid a favor and adopt him, blaming him for your actions is very irresponsible parenting).

    @ comment 19, awesome phrase and library cards are awesome :)

    @ 32 – French author Jean Chicoine and @ 46 – author Michael Z. Williamson

    Thanks for giving us an opposing perspective to the ‘download is a lost sale’ propaganda from an authors point of view.
    These sorts of comments from content creators should carry more weight to those who follow that propaganda than just a bunch of “pirates” trying to justify their actions.
    (I’ve never read any of your books from either of you so can’t comment on them but thanks for taking the time to share these comments).
    That viewpoint btw is one I would share in future were my writing (hobbyist, fantasy) efforts to see their share of library shelf space in future.

    +1 to 63′s comment (don’t give the MAFIAA a cut from album sales)
    It would be nice if we had a way to actually pay the artists directly (and in turn that they pay for any pirated commercial software being used during production) instead of letting the labels get a cut to fund the p2p pay up or else scam.

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  • Anonymous

    i hear that a lot

    “you’re wrong and i’m right and my version of office is pirated too”

    so what are they right about, their stance on piracy which makes them a hypocrite or having a pirated software which makes us all have that little extra in common

  • Colin

    refreshing, and uncommon view here from SF author Eric Flint.
    http://www.baen.com/library/

  • bob

    well she can suck it because if she is more captivated with how much money she is losing over how many get the message of her book whether it be through audiobooks, ebooks, or a dam scanned copy then I guess her books aren’t worth reading to begin with

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  • X

    Having one set of rules/rights/privileges for yourself and a completely different set of rules when the situation doesn’t suit you….

    Psychologists call this Sociopathy.

  • Anonymous

    Honestly, I don’t give a sh!t.

  • For the oldies

    @Amuse

    I’ll give you the same advice I gave my parents:

    First, download a program called Mirc.

    Now, go on Youtube and look up ‘guide how to use Mirc’.

    Here’s an example of an IRC channel to use, but there are many more for you to research yourself: ‘IRC Highway:random server,’ then you want to go into the channel ‘ebooks’ (just type it into the blank box that comes up).

    When in the channel, use the command @search Harry Potter (e.g.) to search for an author or key words. You’ll find most authors’ work on there.

    After a month, you’ll have to look at Pirate Bay to get a crack for Mirc – this just involves copying the cracked .exe file over the original program file.

    Kindles read .Mobi files, Sonys read .Epubs. Download an excellent program called Calibre – it will convert pretty much any file type to whatever you want.

    Have fun reading – be prepared that collecting this way is very addictive!

    I’m sure La Ragbe will be pleased that I’m wishing you all Merry Christmas this way…

  • For the oldies

    Forgot!

    Simple but important – the IRC command to download a file is !Harry Potter (e.g.).

    You’ll have to set your file exceptions to allow users to send you any kind of files, because otherwise the program won’t allow you to get the .html .Epub .txt etc that you want. Do this in the ‘options’ tab: just click the option that says you want to accept all file types.

  • Ninja

    Overpriced is the word here. She knows very well that you buy what you can. There are priorities in life and even the consumerist US is noticing that you can’t buy mindlessly.

    And yea, not everything you download you’ll use/listen/read.

  • loader

    Haha… the fail is strong with this one.

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  • Whatever

    Would she accept the same argument like “Your copied books on my PC don’t represent the relation i have with you” ?

    Why hasn’t she been arrested, her home(s) raided and awaiting trial for a few million and jailtime ?

    Time for a “imaginary property hypocrisy leak site” to list every artist and MAFIAA manager and/or accused “family of” who share/copy themselves.

    The list can be started with this author, Lilly Allen, Esmee something…. and so on.

  • anonimus6

    great story, so true and universal…

  • nrabett

    @Amuse, #94:

    library.nu is also a great place for free ebooks.

  • NamesDontMatter

    http://www.sffebooks.com/portal.php

    If you want every Sci Fi / Fantasy book check it out.

  • smc

    Not that many here seem concerned with facts, but for the record, there’s no copyright on fashion.

    So a fake Prada handbag doesn’t violate copyright law in the way that downloading an ebook or digital song can. (The bag might have a Prada logo or otherwise violate a Prada trademark, which is a violation of something, but not copyright law.)

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  • obvious

    Mp3s in 2010..!?, every right to be embarrassed when she doesn’t go with FLACs, agreed.

  • Qbunto

    I bet the son did it for the giggles. Pissed off with his mother for being a two faced twat.

  • Danny in Canada

    I buy loads of books – mostly used, sometimes new if I really want to support the author.

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  • Tor

    The “Dagens Næringsliv” link is broken.

  • Reason

    Be a “good” mother and send your son to jail!

  • Reason

    @114: of course conterfeiting a Prada handbag is a copyright infringement.
    The design itself is a copyright. Naturally you can’t apply a Patent or copyright of the object or idea over a “handbag” itselfe.

    But the genuine Prada handbag is a genuine unique design. And that design process is copyright protected. Like the design of architecture or a car or what ever intelectual creational process.
    Inventing a story and writing it down is creation of a printed, spoken or otherwise recored work and is copyright. Inventing the technique of producing light through letting electric current run through a wire would be a patent. Letting artists design different shapes and colors of lightbulbs would be copyright of that design (not the technical idea).
    Designing a house withe certain characteristiques and shapes is an artist work protected by copyright.
    The artist holds the rights on his idea/design including the one to reproduce and sell to make a living…

    Well, that it is outdated and needs a refresh in our modern distributed communication world is another issue.

    But there is a point: copyright is not equel to copyright. Europeans in general understand something different under that term than English or Americans. There copyright refers much havier to the commercialisation process and distribution and marketing rights where as in other countries of Europe it is much more the rights and the relation of and between an artist and his work. In fact, it shouldn’t be possible to deprive any artist of his rights over his work. He can’t sell them or even pass them on. He can only give them up and then it passes over to public domain and becomes a public good.

  • loko

    great bolshy yarbles!

  • reason

    For example, I am a student and I seriously need a book in 3 days. Bookstores are out of them, legal ways to buy them will not get here on time and there is not a legal version of the ebook. What do I do? Use google to find a torrent that does have it…

  • Anonymous

    @6

    It’s ALWAYS been hard making it as an author or artist.

    Artist = STRUGGLE

    Deal with it!!!

  • Vicki

    I have never understand the claim that “I lost $xxx because of piracy”. You did not. The likelihood of those people buying your ebook/game/music is very low. You “lost” nothing. You gained some publicity.

    OK, her son put 1800 tracks on the iPod. Yes, he did not pay for them. And No One is going to pay for them now because she’s going to delete them.

    Commenter #23 admits to having pirated ebooks. The authors did not “lose” money because commenter #2 cannot afford to buy books.

    Theft? What was “taken”? To steal something means that the original owner no longer has it.

    We need a new way to think about electronic media.
    • No one gains

  • Vicki

    Typo – that’s commenter #2 not #23

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  • Zimbel

    Piracy is a taking on the high seas by force.

    Making an illegal copy of a product is bootlegging.

  • Zimbel

    It can be very difficult to determine if a particular work or recording is bootlegged or not. I personally try to avoid obviously bootlegged material that I’m certain doesn’t fall into the realm of fair use. However, that’s often difficult to tell, particularly in field that I have little familiarity with.

    Taking the example of an arbitrary e-book I can obtain for free, there are a number of possibilities:
    1) The author could have put this work out to advertise their other material.
    2) The material could be out of copyright.
    3) Their could be copyrighted material in the work that’s under fair use.
    4) The publisher, distributor or other middle-entity could have put this work out to advertise the author, a particular brand, or themselves.
    5) It could be bootlegged.
    6) The work could be used with permission.

    Even worse, these aren’t mutually exclusive.

    Even worse, let’s say that I realize that Ms. Ragde is an author for whom none of her work is in any of the above categories. However, I’ve never read her work. Am I going to recognize her text in a song, game, or other work? Of course not.

    So, really, that’s what I want from those organizations that are opposed to bootlegging – a simple way of determining what items they don’t want bootlegged. Then I could avoid or pay for that material, instead of constantly guessing.

    And yes, I realize that that’s a difficult problem, possibly insolvable. But without that, I’m guessing. And my guesses are intrinsically going to favor my interests, not the author/performer/publisher/distributor’s interests.

  • Annie Moose

    Haha, that’s hilarious. If you’re going to go on record for being anti-piracy, more power to you–just don’t be hypocritical about it. Hypocrites are idiots.

    I also like how she defends her purchase of knock-off handbags with the exact same argument the first guy used to defend his downloading of ebooks.

  • bugstomper

    @Michael Z. Williamson

    I am one of those people who has pirated one of your books. So far my tally on books you have written, in chronological order: 0.5 (or whatever fraction it was) free teaser download you make available through Baen; 1 (or rather the rest of the book) pirated after failing to find the book in my country or get the public library to buy it; 2 print books bought at a bookstore when I was sent to a conference in the US; 1 e-book of yours bought from Baen after I went from being a poor student to having a job.

    Most likely any more of your books I read will be bought as e-books through Baen. I really appreciate their attitude about how much they give away and how they don’t try to cripple their downloads with DRM. I hate spending more for shipping to my country than the price of the book to get a dead tree version from, say, Amazon. And I appreciate your attitude about your work and am inclined to spend something in your direction as opposed to even looking at the author that this article talks about.

  • Steve Szmidt

    Interesting how people guilty of a crime are so quick in justifying it.

    You can Try to make it into a game of semantics, but it does not change the fact that taking something that is not licensed as “free to copy” is not legal.

    The argument that copying is not theft is really silly as long as the law says so.

    This is not to say that music distributors are not ripping off artists wholesale, I certainly feel they are! Their whole business model is built on taking the artist for as much as possible.

    I’ve observed that the movie industry is similarly set up, to not let anyone else get their share of the sales. In Hollywood you cannot even get a bank loan for making a movie unless you have a distribution contract with a major distributor. In turn that contract is “rigged” to let them leave as little money for you as they please.

    It is an old idea where people who cannot create themselves live off those who can. Similarly thieves are usually the ones to accuse others of stealing. And artists are one of the most valuable beings on the planet who deserve our support and protection.

    Over time the law might very well change, artistic products might be under more “open” licenses, until then it is illegal.

    Personally I’ve noticed that gaining market share is more important than stopping piracy. But each of us has the choice on how we choose to market our product.

  • poor you

    ‘I look at Norwegian musicians who have to do live concerts. We have nothing to live on other than the physical product,” she said.’

    OMG, our creative class working for a living, what a tragedy. imagine that, only living on the physical day to day work and your personal production. Fu**ing damn shame. our intellectual masters should only be working a few years of their lives. Obviously, having thought about something, and putting it to word or music, it is absolutely barbaric that we would expect these poor people to go out and produce anything ever again. youre all scumbags filesharers!!!

  • dun dun dun

    If you try to read a book on your computer, you’ll get a sore neck.

    If you listen to an MP3 on your computer, it sounds exactly the same as a shitty CD sounds.

    ebooks therefore naturally lead to purchases of hard copy for quality material.

    The amazon business model is robber baron piracy: we use a weird ass encoded format you can’t play with and then sell you public domain ebooks to read on your shitty kindle which isn’t as good as a paper book.

    All these vast ebook collections floating around the internet and stashed away on private hard drives are a library of Alexandria awaiting the future invention of a decent ebook reader, imho, but paper books still rule the market and will for a long time.

  • K

    ‘Kronor’ is also correct Norwegian, but ‘kroner’ is more used.

  • K

    But in English it’s ‘Crowns’.

  • Copyright_on_fashion

    #120

    Sorry, you are just wrong. Copyright doesn’t exist in fashion. There is no copyright nor anything else “protecting” the fashion designs. They do have trademark protection though.

    Look and learn:
    http://www.ted.com/talks/johanna_blakley_lessons_from_fashion_s_free_culture.html

  • Autonomous

    >It ain’t easy making a living as an author or an artist anymore

    Or a butcher – Or a baker – Or a farmer – Or a shop keeper – Or pretty much anything these days really

    “Artists” should try getting a real job in the real world before they moan about how difficult it is to earn a living

  • Autonomous

    @120 by Reason

    of course conterfeiting a Prada handbag is a copyright infringement.
    The design itself is a copyright.

    the genuine Prada handbag is a genuine unique design.

    Actually no. Copyright law specifically excludes such cases, which is why so many items have logos on them as copying those logos is deemed to be an infringement of copyright. However, copying other aspects of the design, or even the entire design, is not.

    As an example, look at how many high-street stores copy haute couture items after the annual fashion show money-go-round. Look at how many “celebrities” wear copies of designer dresses.

    Maybe you should check back with your handlers and get them to clarify a few things before you post next time.

  • Anonymous

    so does this mean that auto mechanics are pirates too? they cost the automotive industry millions in potential sales? cooking at home is piracy from the fast food industry, causing them potential sales. television is piracy, causing the movie industry seats in the theater. going to the library could be also considered piracy, cause you’re not paying for the book and reading it. (ad sarcasm) i think that the government really needs to crack down on these pirates and hard! (more sarcasm)
    ….give me a break….

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    @ 27 Ledgend phrase..

    Take 19s advice, it might help with the spelling.

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  • Anonymous

    We have been reading books from the library for free for years now. Sorry I don’t feel any pity. Knowledge should be free.

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