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Big Four Music Labels Hire Students To Chase File-Sharers

As the music labels of the RIAA prepare to launch their six-strikes initiative in the United States, elsewhere in the world their strategies are somewhat different. In Europe, labels including EMI, Sony, Universal and Warner are pumping money into an anti-piracy company who do everything from cyberlocker takedowns to the dirtiest of all anti-piracy tactics – extracting cash settlements from Internet users. According to an insider, the company employees dozens of students as pirate hunters.

While organizations such as IFPI have somewhat of a global plan for dealing with online piracy, in recent times it’s become evident that their member companies will pursue local strategies taking both the law – and what they can get away with politically – into consideration.

As we know, in the United States the labels will shortly go down the warning notice route, following in the footsteps of countries such as New Zealand and France. Elsewhere, however, the situation is quite different.

Due to legal developments in Germany in recent years, it has become easy to extract money from alleged file-sharers by threatening to sue, something the major labels aren’t averse to getting involved in.

One of the anti-piracy companies that EMI, Sony, Universal and Warner are putting money into for this purpose is proMedia. This Hamburg-based company has an exclusive contract to hunt down copyright infringements on behalf of the IFPI-affiliated BVMI industry group, of which the above-mentioned labels are members.

The operations of these anti-piracy companies are usually shrouded in secrecy, but on condition of anonymity an insider has been speaking out about his work hunting pirates at proMedia. The individual, referred to only as ‘Peter’, told SpiegelOnline that he has worked for the company for four years, tracking down copyright infringements on behalf of the big labels.

Peter, a musician and student teacher, works in proMedia’s Hamburg office, but he is not alone. According to the 26-year-old, proMedia employs a total of 35 students in a range of anti-piracy roles.

In addition to using Google to search forums, blogs and cyberlockers for infringements, Peter and his colleagues also engage in the most controversial anti-piracy work – tracking down file-sharers on P2P networks such as BitTorrent in order to extract cash settlements from them.

The labels’ aggressive stance towards infringement is well-known, so file-sharers shouldn’t be surprised if they’re targeted, Peter says. “If someone is caught, it’s his own fault,” he explains.

According to Spiegel, the BVMI reports that it closed (read: settled or gave up on) 13,562 civil cases on behalf of the labels in 2008 alone (more recent data was not provided). As revealed by an earlier TorrentFreak investigation, there is big money to be made from these settlements. Universal, Warner and Universal look for around 1,200 euros per time, with Sony requesting around 950 euros.

Of course, the entire system is widely hated by just about everyone not making money from it, largely because of what is perceived as a bullying and disproportionate response to individuals downloading a few songs. But Peter insists that this is still theft and comparable to shoplifting.

“The only difference is that songs are apparently not perceived by many as a valuable commodity and everyone generally thinks they should be freely accessible,” he says.

As a musician, Peter says he has also been personally hit by piracy. After selling an album of his band’s music after concerts, to his annoyance even his friends were copying his music. Peter’s not any more pleased with the Pirate Party either, noting that their plans for the revision of copyright law would deprive musicians of income.

“I do not think much of the politics of the pirates,” says Peter. “As a musician myself, I feel degraded by them.”

And yet, like so many in the anti-piracy business, Peter was once on the other side of the fence.

“Anyone who claims to have never downloaded something is lying,” he concludes.

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  • Pamela J. Clark

    According to the 26-year-old, proMedia employs a total of 35 students in a range of anti-piracy roles. http://FoxGetRealJobs.notlong.com

  • Anyone

    I read the original article a few weeks back and he just doesn’t get it.
    the Piratenpartei wants to improve his position as musician and song author, they want to remove rights from the vultures that he works for now

    he is simply an idiot that doesn’t get it.

    • Anonymous

      This reminds me of a witch-hunt. I wonder how many innocent people are going to be framed in this one.

      • http://zapit.nu/29o Teresa A. Shutt

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    • Anonymous

      Anyone who says the revision of copyright (from the pirate party’s plan) would deprive musicians of income has cherry-picked their knowledge of copyright.  Perhaps Peter is so annoyed at his album being copied that his judgement is tipped and he is anti-downloading and knows very little about the distributors/censors and the part they play in the big picture.

    • Lol

      But Peter insists that this is still theft and comparable to shoplifting.

       sorry fbi says : http://torrentfreak.com/fbi-did-not-steal-megaupload-evidence-because-its-digital-120607/
      ” However, according to Crown’s lawyer, no harm was done because the
      evidence in question is “not physical” and therefore not covered by the
      relevant legislation.”

      • Anon

        Good point Lol.

        It works for the MU case, so it works for EVERYTHING else related to ;)

        I love this justice from now :3

    • bang

      Dear Peter such my balls !  Do you make music for money ? Fu.k you and your shit music then , f.ck all “parasite artists who make “shit art ” for money  , the wolrd is full and messed with people who wanna be rich ,who make mess , who dont have talent but dont wanna work , dont wanna make something useful and new . All of these parasites  just wanna foolish stupid people with their shit “call music , arts etc ” get billions and then stay lazy like a fat .

      Many all of these “creations” are just shit without real cultural value

    • Lattari

       He’s worse, he’s a little scheming henchman spying on his fellow citizens. What ever he suffers from piracy he has it coming. When I rise to power people like that will regret

  • Guest

    The thing is, you know the people they hire don’t give a shit about piracy and just want the money.

    You can’t pay off the tendency to share, neither can you stop people wanting to reward others for their work when its good. Its how it is.

    The answer is simple

    A) exclusive contracts and milking releases is a no go
    B) make your content available to all service providers, no exclusive contracts
    C) Work with emerging companies to develop a one stop media shop at a comparable rate to current cable packages..

    If you got rid of the crap, restrictions, region log outs etc… and charged £30 a month ($50 ish) for unlimited media access you would get it.

    Sell live events and promote special edition releases such as DVD’s and BluRay and you will win.

    The only people who won’t take up the offer are those who can’t afford it.

    Also copyright needs to expire after 5 years, with renewal options at a minimal fee.

    Otherwise, get the fook out, i will continue to pirate what i want, buy what i think is worth while and generally look to non MPAA and RIAA products.

    Rant over :)

     

    • Anonymous

      Also copyright needs to expire after 5 years, with renewal options at a minimal fee Minimal WTF are you smoking? they need it to be quite high, and it needs to climb higher and higher the more time goes on.
      Perpetual copyright needs to be abolished. No exceptions.

      • Shitaphor

        That places control back in the hands of the rich corporations.

        Copyright is a deceptively tricky nut to crack – five year terms sounds great, but opens the floodgates for the mega-studios to remake student films almost immediately. Without perhaps even acknowledging the source.

        A much more tenable (at least short-medium term) solution is to just educate and push Creative Commons Non-Commercial as the default licensing option. This shuts out the media cartels (but allows artists to profit from their distribution if they so choose) AND promote free exchange of ideas and culture among people like us.

        • Sheepy1

           They could addapt to something like what Microsoft does with their XBOX games. Once the game is sold over a certain million times… forget the exact amount the game is then priced at $20.

          They could use this concept for movies and games and music etc…
          If it was $50 for a new pc game… after 5 million copies are sold sell it for $20.
          If the cd sells for $20 originally charge something like $8 for it.
          They would still be making money on the product, the authors would still be making money, and the buyers would get stuff at descent prices as well.

  • Bakapinkuu

    What a vindictive douche. But at least he’s honest about the fact he’s a vindictive douche who doesn’t care that he’s participating in grossly disproportionate extortion.

    “Hey Vinny, you want I should break his kneecaps next? After all, ‘If someone is caught, it’s his own fault.’”

    • Asdf

      And a pretentious little shit too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pac-Ducor/100000183951976 Pac Ducor

    Seems like a great plan by the Anti Piracy groups… Make it so that we trust people even less on the internet causing complete chaos in the long run.   If they can’t control it, they defile it any way possible.

  • Anonymous

    So Peter, as a STARTUP musician, is annoyed that his friends are copying his music. Not that he would be happy they do and they make him free advertisement/publicity. His band is probably so well-known that it doesn’t need it anymore. Or he may just be annoyed that instead of 6 albums he sold 5. What a sad brain-washed moron.

    “Anyone who claims to have never downloaded something is lying.”
    Who the fuck claims that anyway? I don’t know anybody and I mean ANYBODY who would claim that.

    • mwhahaha

      Advertisement to sell what?

      • Anyone

        tickets to concerts, merchandise, maybe even some cds

        • Shitaphor

           It’s all about the fanbase – encourage them and treat them with respect and they WILL back you on Kickstarter.

    • The guy

      His friends downloaded his music most likely because his music probably sucks that much shit anyway. Music is good, people will download and buy it, music is bad, people download it and not buy it. Same concept applies to movies as well.

    • Guest

      My grandparents haven’t downloaded sometime…. they’re not lying.

    • Guest

      I’ve never heard of that idiot, but he’d be very lucky if anyone downloaded his music.  But, I’m not going to.  Instead, I’m going to label him as a talentless hack.

      And yes, he does make a rather unlikely claim.  My dad will tell anyone that he’s never downloaded music, and he wouldn’t be lying.  He just doesn’t download music.  Darn it, I just made Peter out to be a liar.

    • guest

      He is such a money grabber that he couldn’t even face giving music to his friends for free. Sounds like a shitty friend to me.

      At least if he gave a digital copy it wouldn’t cost him, unlike a printed copy might have.

      It’s probably why he is sucking up to the anti-piracy lot for money.

      He also says everyone has downloaded something – what about himself!!?? Pretentious fool…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pac-Ducor/100000183951976 Pac Ducor

     Only thing I feel is wrong is the whole DVD and BlueRay bit…  Personally I prefer everything digital.   Physical copies tend to get damaged or scratched and there is no replacement policy.

    • EricPost

      Digital copies will be corrupted over time as hard drives wear down. So you need to make back ups on other hard drives or have the original media. 

      • Guest

        Plastic discs like bluray is a lot more prone to damage than your average harddrive.

      • Glib

        I have a small “media” server from about 12 years ago with 3 Seagate 2.5GB HDDs in it full of music.  I has zero corruption (about 6 years ago I PARed the entire collection onto another machine in the organisation, perfect still).

        In fact, I haven’t had a single corrupted file on any of my media drives, excluding a drive dying which is saved by my arrays, since I can remember.  At present, my media server has 24TB of drives in it (a few are for parity) and I have zero backups.  Drives are(were) cheap, 2 bluray discs cost as much as a drive capable of holding 55 of them uncompressed (or about 200 of them compressed).  Instant access, no fussing around, fast, quiet, robust.

  • Peter

    So, what do we have here:

    * “Peter”
    * 26 years old
    * a musician and student teacher
    * has been employed at proMedia for 4 years

    Oh, to be a fly on that wall during those interrogations…

    • Anonymous

      Am I the only one pondering of the term “student teacher”? Who else would he teach but students?

      • Guest

         It means teacher-in-training.

      • Anonymous

        He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches, he who cannot teach, teaches teachers and he who doesn’t seed, is a leecher.

    • Anonymous

      Here’s some more information:

      *”Peter”
      *Obviously believes himself to be an expert in music and on piracy.
      *Apparently enjoys making an idiot out of himself.
      *Is willing to use the term “Anyone” in a claim (such a strong claim should be backed up with evidence, something that he’s likely never considered).
      *Will be forgotten tomorrow as he is replaced by another dim-witted troll.

  • Jakeobes4

    “Anyone who claims to have never downloaded something is lying,” he concludes.

    They sue yourself A$$ hole!

    • Jakeobes4

       Then*

    • Pianogamer

       Probably took the job instead of paying his own settlement…

  • Jason

    If its mpaa or RIAA I pirate and seed seed seed

  • vanished

    Well, if some things are clear from this case, it’s that creativity has suffered a loss. Not due to piracy but because he decided stopped being a musician in order to extort money. And that his
    collecting society, likely GEMA, did not pay him enough, obviously.

    Anyway, here in Germany it’s becoming increasingly more difficulty to
    extract money from file-sharers. A few courts have already begun to
    question the authenticity of the evidence provided by anti-piracy
    groups. You know, in most of the cases where people accused of copyright
    infringment are convicted to pay lawyer’s fees it is never actually
    proven that the person has commited the denounced action. They are
    convicted on the base of liability for disturbance. Maybe one day such a case will reach the highest German court, and if no liability is asserted, the whole anti-piracy industry will go poof.

  • http://twitter.com/Zirkonia V.-P. M.

    The Promedia lawyer who’s also the head of the organization was on TV a few years back. They got dozens of people sitting in a room in front of computers and all they do is do whois requests the whole day. It’s incredible. If I hadn’t gotten a letter from them I’d almost find it hilarious. Almost.

  • http://cheapassfiction.com/ Aelius Blythe

    “……..songs are apparently not perceived by many as a valuable commodity and everyone generally thinks they should be freely accessible,” he says……
    Songs are worth WAY more than copied 1s and 0s on a computer – that’s what Pirates get and people like this douche don’t.  The value of music isn’t in making copies – that’s something a child could do. If that’s what he thinks musicians are worth, he should really be in a different business. 

    The value of music is in having talent and making music – that’s what people will pay for.  And if this guy is having trouble with having talent and making music that people will pay for, then does he really have a right to complain?

    • Jimbo

       does he actually have worthwhile talent? should he even be in the music business at all??

      answers on a postage stamp please (postcard probably too big!!)

      • http://cheapassfiction.com/ Aelius Blythe

        Yeah, it’s questionable whether someone who has to CHASE down people – even their friends! – to sell even a bit of music, might have better things to expend energy on, like, you know, their music.

        Not that I want to insult the guy’s talents – I’m not very far along in my own creative endeavors… But unless you are really famous, your time and effort is probably better spent developing your talent and your career, rather than chasing away potential fans.  Just saying.

  • EricPost

    This is hardly new. In the 80s, I got a summer job in college from ASCAP. They would send me to bars and I would check to see if the music license they had was the right one for the seating capacity and so forth. It was good money and an easy gig.

  • LOL

    Any student I catch helping the MPAA is going to get hurt!

    • mwhahaha

      Retard

      • Captain Buzzoverinthehead DFC

        Persuasive argument you have there, squire.

  • TrustAvidity

    Downloading an album is equivelant to shoplifting it? When was the last time someone was fined millions of dollars for shoplifing a single CD?

    • mwhahaha

      That’s what I find most abhorrent, the double standards which are applied legally in these issues. They do themselves no favours. If they were reasonable and fair with their profits and distribution methods they’d maybe not make as much cash but they would be able to find themselves a new place in a digital age. As it is they’re pushing people to extreme stances with their idiotic approaches to piracy.

    • Techanon

      It’s called extortion for a reason.

  • http://Not.Telling/ Kr0nZ

    “If someone is caught, it’s his own fault,”
    Truest words ever said by a anti-pirate.

    If your too damn lazy to protect yourself, then its your own damn fault.

  • Guest

    “If someone is caught, it’s his own fault”

    No, you piece of shit. It’s actually your own fault for tracking down filesharers and selling them out to the MAFIAA’s extorting goons. But I guess passing the blame makes you feel better, eh?

    ““The only difference is that songs are apparently not perceived by many as a valuable commodity”

    Well, that and filesharing doesn’t steal anything from anybody. But other than that little nitpick, it’s totally stealing. 

    “After selling an album of his band’s music after concerts, to his annoyance even his friends were copying his music.”

    Oh shit. Do I sense yet another talentless musician who would rather blame piracy for their failed career instead of taking personal responsibility for it, because the former is easier on the ol’ ego?

  • Mark

    Hmm…if you need money then i can see why some people would choose to help Big Four and keep it stum..  I myself would not help in this way or any other way….instead creat a web site to deliver what there consumers want!

  • Guest

    This reminds me of the church hiring mercenaries to crack down those making illegal copies of books back in the dark ages so much.

    Someone has to infiltrate them and be a double agent now. It’d be cool.

  • http://www.facebook.com/orphicdragon Trisha Lynn Dragon

    Willing to bet “Peter” is just another pseudo “musician” who pumps out garbage nobody wants and rather than face the fact that his music is shit, blames pirates.  

    I’m starting to thing one of the root causes of this anti-piracy bullshit is tone deaf talent free assholes unwilling to accept a simple truth. They don’t like  you. They really REALLY don’t like you. 

    Art is a wonderful thing. In many many many ways. Expression and communication are never more powerful than when they reside in the body of a skilled and talented artist who has SOMETHING TO SAY FFS!!! 

    Sadly, the bulk of us are mediocre at best. It’s harder to sort out the good from the crap because labels and companies are forever scooping up the mediocre to use as meat puppets. Then money and marketing sets about masking the scent of fail until AFTER we have forked over $20 for what turns out to be dog shit in shiny disc form. You give me 12 songs on an album, 2 don’t suck, 1 I like and the rest I have to fork over $20 for. 

    Fuck you. Fuck you right in the ear. If I like it, I want MORE of it. Three of my favorite musicians hold a prominent spot in my music library, every track obtained by *pirating*. After every download of new material the craving for MORE sets in. 

    No monetary support means no new tracks and that is just some bullshit I don’t intend to contribute to. If I buy the album legit, the bulk of the proceeds go to some asshat douche canoe fucktard of a label. I’m not ensuring I get continuing content I’m just giving a bunch of assholes my money. Instead I end run the label. Direct donations to the artist via paypal in some instances. I go to concerts, I buy merch my pirating ass is a motherfucking cash cow if you give me what I want. 

    So yeah. Fuck off with this shit. Paying for entertainment I like serves my OWN interests, so I do. Not hard math fuck weasel. 

    • Bakapinkuu

      Good point. The reason “musicians” with no talent think they’re entitled to fans is because they’re no worse than the crap the MAFIAA pushes.

      Newsflash: The reason you don’t sell as many albums as the latest no-talent “star” isn’t because of TEH EEBIL PIRATES OH NOES. It’s because they’re connected, and you’re not. Life sucks, deal with it.

    • Happyartist

       If 1 out of 5 people who download an album of mine give a dollar, and the other four give me nothing, I end up with a lot more than I would get from a label.

      Labels do not exist for the benefit of the artist. Fans exist for the benefit of the artist. Make music that’s worth listening to and you’ll end up making more than enough to live happily.

      Mediocre musicians making millions does nothing good for the world. Talented musicians making enough to get by makes the world a better place.

    • Anonymous

      Pure poetry. That eloquent rant wins you +1 internets.

      “I’m starting to thing one of the root causes of this anti-piracy bullshit is tone deaf talent free assholes unwilling to accept a simple truth. They don’t like  you. They really REALLY don’t like you.”

      Nothing new here though, is there? Every kid who ever picked up a guitar thought they were God’s Gift to the creative industry and they’d gnaw their own legs off rather than face the truth that their only chance of gainfully employing their “talents” would be by flipping burgers in MacDonald’s.

      At the risk of invoking Godwin I believe it’s not a coincidence that Adolf Shicklgruber went off the deep end right after he’d been turned down by the Vienna academy of Art. The rest just being his own brand of scapegoatism.

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  • Anon

    I have A HUGE AMOUNT OF RESERVATION AND DOUBT with regards to the “authenticity” of this “Peter” who says he is “26 years old”…..WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD BLATENTLY DEFAMATE THEMSELVES BY GIVING THEIR AGE AMONG A STAFF OF 35 STUDENTS!!!!! ProMedia could easily identify WHICH PERSON GAVE IN AND TALKED TO TORRENT FREAK.COM!!!  Now that I think of it, I guess the kid had nothing to loss by speaking to the public, unless he signed a contract that said that he would be in a lot of legal trouble if he disclosed his employment details…..I work in the Staffing/HR Industry and if there are 35 employees and one says that his/her age is 26 alone…….I would know which person it was that talked to Torrentfreak!!!!!!

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    • Guest

      You profit $5312 …. by spamming?

      No thanks.

      • MC

        IF you reply to spam, it cannot be removed from the thread, moron.

        • Techanon

          Then don’t reply to the reply of the spam… moron.

  • Rockets

    I bet the students they’re hiring have no friends. If they do, they won’t after this.

  • Sage

    “he has also been personally hit by piracy”
    How many minor bands are there competing with each others? And if they had a band with ~20 year old crew and music that even their friends didn’t bother to pay for is starting to sound like that they had a bigger issues than a piracy.

    Also this “Peter” person sounds kind of bitter about their failure and seemed to forget the importance of “just enjoy whatever you like to do.” Just as I’m having good time in game development: donations are like an concert, where people gives their support.
    But still the game is free and we encourage people to share it and link it,,

    • Happyartist

       >”just enjoy whatever you like to do.”

      This is the difference between an artist and someone cranking out something that may or may not resemble art. An artist makes art because that is what they must do. Being paid is irrelevant. It’s nice to get money to make your art, but if money is why a person makes art maybe they should be doing something else.

      • Anonymous

        And if an artist cranks out something people like, money will come anyway.

        An artist creates because s/he must. A great artist is loved and rewarded for it.

  • Anonymous
  • Plop

    ‘Peter’ is a fsckin idiot. ‘Wah wah wah, teh piratz iz stealing my moneeez. Piratz Parteez will hurt musicalists’. Whining little git – I’m a musician +and+ member of the Pirate Party, because I recognise that file-sharing has helped to spread the word about my music and directly benefitted me through live gig bookings which I wouldn’t have got if the promoters hadn’t been given copies of my music. The Pirate Party believe that copyright laws need revising to take away the incentive for monopolistic corporates to screw creatives for financial control of their ‘art’. The copyright laws would still benefit the creatives by giving them a period of time in which they could monetise their work, but they couldn’t expect to retire on that work anymore – just like a real job.

    • Anonymous

      I’ll second that. Real artists work damn hard at making as many people as possible hear them – whatever it takes – and after that, if they have a fan base it shows they are great artists and will not want for money again.

      If your work has been in the public domain for a year and you still can’t sell gigs or records then don’t quit your day job.

      Honestly, I’m not surprised at how the MPAA/RIAA operates given that they seem to recruit their grunts from the ranks of failed talentless piss artists who couldn’t make people listen to their work if you paid them to.

      And after that they have the gall to talk about a “sense of entitlement”.

  • It’s a fit-up.

    If even his friends don’t think his music is worth paying for then it’s hardly piracy that’s causing him to fail.

    • South Park

      That’s true.  He’s just the fool that thinks he has talent but refuses to play because he thinks that piracy is going to ruin his career.

      He probably saw that episode of South Park and took it way too seriously.  (Season 7, Episode 9)

  • Steve Smith

    Hire or were they blackmailed in to doing it?

  • Afronauts

    If there would be one theme song for this, it would be MDFMK’s “Witch Hunt,” cause I wouldn’t be surprised if a article shows up saying: “File sharers were hung due to this number of files shared,” ect…it’s Salem all over again!

    • Plop

      I’d have said KMFDM’s “Suck”, because any ‘musician’ who get in bed with the MAFIAA is doing just that.

      • Afronauts

        Yeah, that can apply to Metallica, Load and Reload were so garbage back then. Thanks for mentioning that song, that struck me as another good one you mentioned. :D

  • Leikmadur

    Great they found some cannon fodder to do their dirtywork

    just “Name and shame” em idiots, a few “copyright henchmen” heads on a stick, they should become quite popular in their social circles, I know about cases where scum like that has been exposes and it really sucks to be them, nobody wants to hire, work with or have much to do with a person which sells other users out for profit, they either end up doing that line of work for the rest of their lives or having to move very far away where they havnt discovered the internet yet ROFL!!

  • Bbcraz150

    You know the money that they are spending for these students could bring in the striving artist in that need it and trying to make it big.

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  • Guest

    This isn’t a surprise. Wasn’t there an article years ago saying essentially the same thing, during the time when the RIAA was a lot more sue-happy?

    Good luck, though, trying to stay ahead. Whatever community they’re trying to fight is two steps ahead. Go on, hit some more false positives; it’ll expose them for the fakes they are.

  • max

    So this musician guy “Peter”, if we ask him he’s downloaded anything and says No, he’s lying too.

    • Decimus

      What you don’t realize is that he’s a very talented musician who is entitled to download music.  Someone has to download his music so that he can claim that his awesome music is being pirated…

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     But Peter insists that this is still theft and comparable to shoplifting.Except when you get caught shoplifting you don’t get sued for a million dollars per song.

  • http://twitter.com/SchneiderAllen1 SchneiderAllen

    like Julie replied I can’t believe that any one can make $7252 in 1 month on the internet. did you see this page (Click on menu Home more information)    http://goo.gl/vw7Gf 

  • ndmushroom

    So the guy sold CDs AFTER concerts and was annoyed that people copied them. Who went to these concerts and how much money was made from them, one might wonder? I don’t usually go to concerts of people I’ve never heard of, and since concerts seem to be the core of Peter’s business (how many other artists have to sell their CDs at their own concerts and not in record shops? And why is that, I wonder? Does it have nothing to do with the fact that small, indie, unknown artists such as Peter have no other “mainstream” way to promote their music? Well, surprise surprise, filesharing is one such way!) one might argue that Peter has actually benefited from his friends sharing his music, meaning more concert tickets in the future.
    And how does this “artist” return the favour? Ahem…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KWRIOQDFHQDIW3XVHCNMYRFL64 Clarissa

    what Randy explained I cant believe that any body can get paid $7993 in four weeks on the internet. did you look at this link (Click on menu Home more information)   http://goo.gl/ai1Uf 

  • Anonymous

    Pirate hunters? You mean master SNITCHES! We all know what happens to snitches and rats dont we?

    Anon-Internet.tk

  • Canadian_GUy

    “The Canadian intellectual property’s lead lobby group, the Canadian
    IP Council (which represent the music, movie, software and pharma
    industries) released a new policy document
    (PDF) yesterday that identifies its legislative priorities for the
    coming years. Anyone hoping that the SOPA protests, the European
    backlash against ACTA, and the imminent passage of Canadian copyright
    reform might moderate the lobby group demands will be sorely
    disappointed. Michael Geist says it is the most extremist IP policy document
    ever released in Canada, calling for the implementation of ACTA,
    SOPA-style rules including
    website blocking and stopping search queries from resolving, liability
    for advertisers and payment companies, massive surveillance at the
    border and through delivery channels including searching through
    individual packages without court
    oversight, and spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars on private
    enforcement.”
    Reader Bloozguy adds more legislative bad news for Canadians: Bill C30, the country’s much-maligned warrantless internet surveillance bill, is coming back with new provisions that would give the U.S. government access to Canadian citizens’ private data.

  • harry krishna

    i would like to be chased by a student with red hair and d cups (minimum)

  • Anonymous

    Traitors to their generation.

  • freePirate

    Peter, let me say something here. some people used a lot of bad words to call you. some people called you “Retard”, some other people called you “Asshole” , some other people told you to “go fuck yourself”. But I think all of them are wrong. they don’t know what are they talking about. Here’s what I think. I think you are a “Douchebag”

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  • screw you!

    Haha! this practice is so sketchy, I cannot believe people are caving in. Yes, this is illegal, I do agree with that. iTunes sells good music for $1.29 per track. That is acceptable. At least we’re not getting ripped by buying a CD for $20, that has like two good songs and the rest crap put in to call it an album..

    BUT if on is to get caught tell the label to screw off! It’s just like those camera’s my local police department has at intersections. To hold up in court they need a time-stamped photo of the person driving along with a license plate number.

    How the hell can the labels prove who is downloading? It’s not against the law to leave a wireless router open for public internet consumption. Unless they happen to get a MAC address (which is impossible over most ISP WAN links) they have no proof of who was actually downloading…… Just be sure to dban that hard drive!

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  • http://www.ticotitanium.com/ Callie Begay

    The footsteps of countries such as New Zealand and France. Elsewhere, however, the situation is quite different.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003591698837 Alfred Bundy

    I pay for the internet each month.  If I download something, it is all included in the fee I pay each month.  Plain and simple.  F corporations and the government.

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