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BitTorrent Based DNS To Counter US Domain Seizures

The domain seizures by the United States authorities in recent days and upcoming legislation that could make similar takeovers even easier in the future, have inspired a group of enthusiasts to come up with a new, decentralized and BitTorrent-powered DNS system. This system will exchange DNS information through peer-to-peer transfers and will work with a new .p2p domain extension.

dot-p2pIn a direct response to the domain seizures by US authorities during the last few days, a group of established enthusiasts have started working on a DNS system that can’t be touched by any governmental institution.

Ironically, considering the seizure of the Torrent-Finder meta-search engine domain, the new DNS system will be partly powered by BitTorrent.

In recent months, global anti-piracy efforts have increasingly focused on seizing domains of allegedly infringing sites. In the United States the proposed COICA bill is explicitly aimed at increasing the government’s censorship powers, but seizing a domain name is already quite easy, as illustrated by ICE and Department of Justice actions last weekend and earlier this year.

For governments it is apparently quite easy to take over the DNS entries of domains, not least because several top level domains are managed by US-based corporations such as VeriSign, who work closely together with the US Department of Commerce. According to some, this setup is a threat to the open internet.

To limit the power governments have over domain names, a group of enthusiasts has started working on a revolutionary system that can not be influenced by a government institution, or taken down by pulling the plug on a central server. Instead, it is distributed by the people, with help from a BitTorrent-based application that people install on their computer.

According to the project’s website, the goal is to “create an application that runs as a service and hooks into the hosts DNS system to catch all requests to the .p2p TLD while passing all other request cleanly through. Requests for the .p2p TLD will be redirected to a locally hosted DNS database.”

“By creating a .p2p TLD that is totally decentralized and that does not rely on ICANN or any ISP’s DNS service, and by having this application mimic force-encrypted BitTorrent traffic, there will be a way to start combating DNS level based censoring like the new US proposals as well as those systems in use in countries around the world including China and Iran amongst others.”

The Dot-P2P project was literally started a few days ago, but already the developers are making great progress. It is expected that a beta version of the client can be released relatively shortly, a team member assured TorrentFreak.

The project has been embraced by many familiar names in the P2P-community. Former Pirate Bay spokesman Peter Sunde is among them, and the people from EZTV have been promoting it as well.

“For me it’s mostly to scare back. To show that if they try anything, we have weapons of making it harder for them to abuse it. If they then back down, we win,” Peter Sunde told TorrentFreak in a comment.

Although the initiators of the project are still debating on various technical issues on how the system should function, it seems that the administrative part has been thought out. The .p2p domain registration will be handled by OpenNIC, an alternative community based DNS network. OpenNIC also maintains the .geek, .free, .null and several other top level domains.

On the other hand, there are also voices that are for distributed domain registration, which would keep the system entirely decentralized.

The domain registrations will be totally free, but registrants will have to show that they own a similar domain with a different extension first, to prevent scammers from taking over a brand.

The new P2P-based DNS system will require users to run an application on their own computer before they can access the domains, but there are also plans to create a separate root-server (like OpenNIC) as a complimentary service. It’s worth noting that the DNS changes will only affect the new .p2p domains, it will not interfere with access to any other domains.

It will be interesting to see in what direction this project goes and how widely it will be adopted. There are already talks of getting Internet Service Providers to accept the .p2p extension as well, but even if this doesn’t happen the system can always be accessed through the BitTorrent-powered application and supporting DNS servers.

If anything, this shows that no matter what legislation or legal actions are taken, technology stays always one step ahead. The more aggressive law enforcement gets, the more creative and motivated adopters of the Open Internet will respond.

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  • DuellistOrigins

    That is very impressive. Will be interesting to see if it stays up, or whether it’ll be fought with as a “danger” to the internet.

  • politux

    Wonderful solution.

  • Twoot

    Fantastic news.I hope this is adhered to and brought into being.

  • xenomancer

    I hope this is coded with expansion to multiple peer-supported TLD’s in mind. It may just supper cede the current system of centralized DNS’s if it can maintain a large enough swarm to be a robust infrastructure.

    Go Dot-P2P!!!

  • haha

    And some people think government hinders inovation

  • rob8urcakes

    Sign me up as soon as practicable guys. This is terrific, and VERY welcome too.

    “Sharing really IS caring”, and we’ll teach all these crazed power-hungry, money-greedy opportunists where to get off our interweb train :)

    The Revolution is here and is happening NOW, and this is how it’s done. Woooohoooooooooooo.

  • Wilson Andrew Bolton

    @5
    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    Excellent idea, hats off to the developers

  • arti

    Yep, I expected this since first takeover. If future interceptions of domain names became regular habit of governments ICAN and other organizations making a fortune on registration of names would face unexpected and strong competition. Once such alternative name system became popular lucrative business they are running can receive huge hit.

  • hotdog

    lmao The best invention is the mind and seems government nor the major greedy industry don’t have either of those ;P

  • 47

    Sign me up when a beta is released!
    Great news

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  • Anon

    Thumbs up for free internets!

  • Alex

    sunde has been tweeting about this!

  • collaborator

    Now all they need to do is open-source the protocol once it’s finished so the community can make it even better. It’s about time we as free people stopped depending on a Government run internet. Hat’s off to dotP2P!

  • Nemo

    Dear US government,
    What a beautiful proof of the hydra concept. You start censoring sites at the domain name level, we stop giving a fuck about the system you control and start using our own – invented by the people, run by the people, dependent only on the people.

  • me

    Excellent news and long overdue: distributed DNS is the way to go, and one less choke point for MAFIAA and their sock puppet repressive governments.

    As always, the Internet interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it.

  • Anonymous

    Pass. It’s flawed in alot of different ways. Avoidance of the problem by making a mere new TLD doesn’t solve anything.

  • Anonymous

    opennic link doesnt work

  • Anonymous

    “The Dot-P2P project was literally started a few days ago, but already the developers are making great progress.”

    I’ll await egotrippin.

  • 133t

    srly thanks for evolving our tech :P

    goooo dotp2p

  • Decision

    Can this technology be used for “BAD”, like when China redirected the worlds internet traffic thru a server farm that they controlled for 14 minutes back in April ???

  • Anonymous

    @16

    Ignorance, ignorance.

    If you read carefully, you’d see that this is much more than merely creating a new TLD. This is about distributing who controls the DNS system and records and reducing the amount of domain conflicts.

  • BG

    P2P bitchez! Adapt or die!

  • dadum01

    Is this like a big cache system which will be distrobuted through various people. Then the Records of the DNS will redirect the trafic to the closist server/cache. It like a website powered by P2P. This could mean more users using it will make the website load faster. Everything against the laws of computing…

    This sound like a Big WOW Idea.

  • dadum01

    Is this like a big cache system which will be distrobuted through various people. Then the Records of the DNS will redirect the trafic to the closist server/cache. It like a website powered by P2P. This could mean more users using it will make the website load faster. Everything against the laws of computing…

    This sounds like a Big WOW Idea.

  • Active P2P scientist

    Bad idea.

    Good P2P software does not require any webserver. The requirement for .p2p domain is a sign of bad design or lack of evolvedness.

    We need to move beyond the “single website + central tracker + .torrent file” age started in June 2001, right?

  • Anonymous

    @25

    If you looked further into this project, you’d have noticed that this does not rely on an ‘official’ website or central tracker. There is no central authority; but any domain conflicts (i.e. a root node has rogue domain entries) can still be solved.

  • hmm

    ya dig this

  • dadum01

    You just gave me wicked website protocol idea. P2P on Steroids. Lets go remake the internet :D

  • British tangent.

    Most excellent stuff,great news.

  • Anonymous

    P2P
    Power 2 People

  • What Huh

    People forget about ISPs.

  • Jordan

    Ironically I posted in the comments on a techcrunch article about the domain takedowns that it wouldn’t be long before someone did this but noone believed me saying that ‘I don’t know much about dns’. Guess I proved them wrong haha.

  • sparkie

    The OpenNIC idea is a huge flaw. The problem isn’t solved by making someone else the registrar – domain registry must also be completely decentralized. (How, I don’t know).

    DTA.

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  • Anonymous

    @33

    Domain registry is decentralised in this project. There is no official authoritative server, but yet there will still be a way to prevent domain conflicts/collisions or rogue entries. Basically, your registered domain will be securely yours (this requires some technical explanation), without a single organisation that can take it away by themselves.

  • dgaf2

    Why not make this an integrated solution? A built-in function or an app for utorrent and other torrent programs.

  • Anonymous

    @35

    It will be an application that runs as a service and hooks into the host’s DNS system to catch all requests to the .p2p TLD while passing all other requests cleanly through. Requests for the .p2p TLD will be redirected to a locally hosted DNS database.

    Therefore, absolutely no integration with other applications is necessary.

  • Anonymous

    This looks interesting.

    However, if it needs a separate application to be installed before the p2p domain can be accessed it might discourage lots of casual users, which would be a shame. Building something into torrent client updates might help that.

    Also where it “hooks into the hosts DNS system to catch all requests to the .p2p TLD” doesn’t that leave the host vulnerable? Or is that one of the strengths of the Opennic system?

  • Anonymous

    one practical issue with alternate TLDs is getting search engines to acknowledge them and scan them bearing in mind only a fraction of prople will be able to resolve the domain names

  • JS

    who wants to bet that the client application that resolves .p2p names will get flagged as malware by the big name AV vendors?

  • Anonymous

    @37

    I suppose if you just change the DNS settings on your computer to point to an additional DNS server (which can be done easily by changing your network settings), you wouldn’t need to install anything, but that would require you to rely on one central server (root node) out of the many others that may available, thus defeating the purpose of having it be P2P.

    Having it as an update to torrent clients would be pointless – why do torrent clients need to rely on DNS to connect to peers? The main issue here is that the US government is seizing websites.

    I suppose you could have it as a browser addon, but you’d only be able to access the P2P DNS system through your browser, when it could also be adapted for other protocols/applications such as IRC.

    Also, I don’t see how modifying your own computer (host) to understand how to handle .p2p requests would leave it vulnerable – vulnerable to what?

  • Salazasu

    This is cool…..

  • Anonymous

    @39

    I’ll bet you $1,000,000 it won’t. Look at Tor or I2P – both are anonymous networks that allow you to create your own hidden service with a unique (random) TLD. You don’t see them getting blocked by any AVs, do you?

    AV engineers simply aren’t as stupid as media corporations, you can trust me on that. Their job is to protect your computer against unwanted malicious software, not P2P networks.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure the government could close down an openic just as easily as an ICANN’T

  • Anonymous

    @38

    That is an interesting problem.

    If the system doesn’t become popular enough for search engines to support it, we can always create our own search engines for the P2P DNS system, just as there are torrent indexing sites.

  • The Terminator

    Progress is always good.

    Time for decentralized internets.
    Oh wait.. Internet is decentralized :P

  • Anonymous

    @43

    I’m sure they can too, but I’m also sure they can’t close down thousands of root nodes that are running simultaneously in a decentralised P2P network.

  • Jeroenz0r

    Cool news!! Too bad I can’t actually program any software but maybe some good ideas will come up. :)

  • Anonymous

    @Jeroenz0r

    So you don’t consider VB.NET a programming language for software? ;)

  • DRuNKeN MaSTeR

    God bless these guys! I have a linux box running 24/7, will be glad to join in.

    You can’t fight teh internetz :D

  • Anon

    awesome..is it weird that my eyes welled up with tears reading this ?

  • Anonymous

    Besides this “secure” DNS registry, there also needs to be a way to bypass blocked IP addresses, which result from ISPs being ordered by the government to block torrent sites like TPB.

    Yes, proxy sites can be used to evade IP blocking, but an automatic method for the less geek-inclined would be helpful.

  • Hilariousity

    It sounds like a cool idea, but I am very skeptical. Just think about it, DNS requests running through random peoples computers that you don’t know… Once the beta begins I will setup a server and redirect all DNS requests that are supposed to be going to torrentfreak.com to torrentfreak.on.nimp.org just for fun. HEY EVERYBODY I’M LOOKING AT GAY PORNO!!!

  • joe

    Laughable. “decentralized dns” ehh? Good luck with that guys. If they waited another week before announcing this they would’ve realized what a stupid and reactionist idea this is. The technical hurdles are many. And where the fuck are they gunna raise the millions of dollars to launch/maintain a new tld? This mutha is doomed already. Technically doomed, financially doomed.

  • Jo Dean

    LOL, those idiots in US Government clearly have a LOT of spare time on their hands. Good thing for off shore, anonymous hosting LOL.

    real-privacy.edu.tc

  • Anonymous

    …so, this is how SkyNet starts.

  • Anonymous

    “BitTorrent Based DNS To Counter US Domain Seizures”

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    Breath! Breath! Breath!

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    What the US gov is doing is destroying the DNS system.

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    Who will be hurt by this?

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    Breath! Breath! Breath!

    Certainly not the non-profit P2P sites such as the Pirate Bay!

    However the for profit companies relying on marketing to propel there business on line such as iTune who is making some money for the corporation of parasites will be hurt for sure.

    Good job Joe Bit Me! Icann is going to lose it.

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    The best joke for 2010 from Joe Bite Me and his crew of morons!

    What a pack of dorks!

  • Anonymous

    @40 – entirely agree there’d be no point to having it bundled into torrent clients as obviously that’s fully IP based. Similarly if it was a browser add-on it might still have some limitations. You’ve helped make the logic of all that much clearer to me.

    On the point about vulnerability I wasn’t thinking their would be a local, machine level vulnerability but a risk if their were a host of the p2p domain and whatever it redirects. Reading more carefully I see that the intent is to have it resolve locally, assumedly with updates to DNS style lists being patched through p2p style updates to that app.

  • T.H.E. S.W.A.R.M.

    coders of the world unite !! :D

    lets show them who’s boss !! ;)

  • Anonymous

    I’m already using OpenNIC DNS servers (thanks fly to the volunteers who run these servers!).

    Count me in as soon as I can use this system.

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  • Anonymous

    One conflict I see coming up. I see there is effectively going to be voting between ‘trusted’ DNSs to resolve conflict.

    While I can see that voting will stop dns poisoning, I cant see how a legitimate dns change can be made and seen as legit rather than a compromised node without any change being voted down by those holding the existing tables

  • YES!

    I am VERY pleased to hear about this.

    This is what is needed.

    All supporters of ACTA, COICA, ICE, etc. can go straight to hell where they belong.

    The news of this lifted my heart. Count me in. I’ll certainly help in whatever way I can.

  • root of evil

    This is such a win. In your face RETORT!

  • Steve

    Why does it have to be bit-torrent powered? Why couldn’t they disguise their traffic as a “legitimate” (read: uncensored by ISPs like Comcast) service like HTTPS?

  • sjobeck

    Can you say “Iceland”?

    As soon as there is a server farm in Iceland out of reach of the g00ns, MIB, & all the other 3 letter acronym evil government agencies, then there could literally be a thousand different alternative root DNS servers there & once that’s done, let the games begin. This is not just about high school kids not paying for music. This is life & death important. We live a world where the government is trying to stop wikileaks, which might be the single most important site on the entire Internet. All of humanity needs wikileaks to stay online.

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  • Me

    It is about time something like this came up.
    Looking at what happend last weekend we really can’t continue to leave control of half the internet in the hands of the American government. Epsecially when they start to remove access to domains that are owned (and legal) in other parts of the world.

  • tronhammer

    freaking brilliant

  • Dave

    Wouldn’t it be easier to simply run a DNS service not on American soil that ignores the entries for domains that the US government seized? Owners of those domains can simply give this new DNS service the IP they want to use for their domain, which overrides the official entry. Slippery slope, I know. But the point should be made that no government can control DNS servers worldwide.

  • ragefest

    haha, gotta live the interwebz

    @#65
    “Wouldn’t it be easier to simply run a DNS service not on American soil that ignores the entries for domains that the US government seized?”

    The government and people in the U.S. still have ways to seize those.

    Besides that, I’m pretty sure this law would enable some sort of block from U.S. ISP’s if the DNS could not be completely seized for some reason- but I don’t know that for sure.

  • ragefest

    typo
    *love the interwebz

    Also with the new IPv6 addresses coming out, it will not be easy to block things in that manner.

    I think there is enough outrage from the online community about this that it won’t be passed, but I guess time will only tell.

    If it does pass, the law system is too slow to keep up with the development of the internet- but they may end up passing something else that would be able to still block those sites, just not by means of DNS. But we don’t have to worry about that now, and I’m sure there’s some smart thinking dudes out there that will be able to counter that.

    Torrents are not the only way of filesharing, just the most used. There are seriously dozens of other very usable ways to download movies for free- so I don’t see any sort of blocking system that would be able to get them all, at least not anytime soon.

  • Anon

    Thieves will do whatever it takes to continue piracy it seems.

  • The Dave

    Has anyone considered simply an extension to current browsers (Chrome and Firefox at least, leave out non-cross-platforms for now) to support a new protocol. In this case, replace the hypertext transfer protocol (http) with p2p much like mIRC will grab irc:// links. This would remove the necessity to get a new TLD and it would allow any site that is currently running to take advantage of the technology provided they get their data loaded into a supported tracker initially.

    Thoughts? Flames?

  • Paul

    This was inevitable, governments and the MPAA and RIAA have gone and pushed the people too far. Now they have gone and lost total control by their greed and bullying.

    Good luck guys, lets stop these greedy parasites from shutting down whatever they like.

  • bonebone

    The proposed system is not for a decentralized server. It’s for a decentralized domain system, that would require a modest internet speed to upkeep which can probably be provided by the same server that hosts the website. The server will still continue to be rented or bought and run on a dedicated internet connection like any website in the internet does.

    Hope I cleared this up for you.

    I wonder how/who will be in charge of giving the domain names and keeping it so that they wont fight over each other… Probably a conglomerate of sites such as eztv, thepiratebay, demonoid, torrentfreak, and other people who have proven themselves trustworthy and of having the interest of humanity as a priority.

    I hope they do this, they quickly upload plugins for all the operating systems or individual browsers and add a few more .p2p domains such as .free (as in freedom), .luv , etc..

    This could be big, if it gains support from major distributors like google, firefox, the linux community. we could see support for this decentralized system shipped with all their products.

  • Anonymous

    What is the difficulty of using a ccTLD? If you have a .uk domain, for instance, only the UK government can seize it, since the servers for .uk are in the UK. The same goes for .fr, .de, and so on.

    For extra fun, have your site available via several ccTLDs. This way, if one is gone, people can simply use another.

  • hotdog

    @65
    Let’s not forget world governments are all 1 government all working together that’s the plan of the new world order.
    So singling out the usa which I’m disappointed in living in at the present.My fellow p2p’ers pirates they are “skulls and bones” all a clan of the the elite not just the government but the key people well known people! I’ll just say look up “skulls and bones” on youtube aswell as secret societies.I’m happy that wikileaks is leaking them out.
    A decentralised dns can be held anywhere as long as it’s not retracible.a network of networks. no one location I believe hiding peoples ip adresses also will prevent more people being traced for example qbitorrent utorrent bitorrent etc etc instead of reveiling that ip put in place what network it’s under never revealing ip’s.that’s one of the reasons so many people get sued.
    Also look up freemason example
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqwOFuHGnW4&feature=related

  • Anonymous

    The problem with dotP2P server as opposed to P2P transfer of the DNS is that the server could be DOSd easily by the government and it would take down all the torrent sites in one go wouldn’t it ?

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  • Jay

    I’ve wondered why they haven’t done this for years now. I guess the scary actions by the United States government have finally kicked people in the ass to get this done.

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  • Anonymous

    @The Dave
    If it were done via browser extensions it would not resolve for every app that cared to use it.

    eg, retrieving server.met lists in emule. obtaining block lists for peerguardian etc

    If implemented in browser what about othr apps? irc,ftp,mail clients or net related commands (on any platform, ping,tracerout.

    Once installed, the solution needs to be transparent to both the user and all apps and commands on the pc.

  • hotdog

    my last post was for 66 not 65 sorry.

  • sanity

    @77 Still batshit either way.

  • omg

    aggreed with #33 & 37

    the idea is good but the average user gonna be fucked up with the use of alternate dns like opennic since it involve changing windows network config.

    as many pointed out a simple app that do the trick will be awsome for low end users

  • Anonymous

    Botnet-driven attack

    1) Chuck owns a botnet and uses 10^6+ zombies to game the system. So do Tim and Gerry… and Paul, and Tina.

    2)Shitload of fake request from thousands of compromised machines need to be disproved.

    3)?????

    4)Profit? :U

  • Ettore

    Clever: Make a “root” site that the .p2p resolving software has it’s IP hardcoded into. At first download, you join the swarm and get the IP addresses of all the .p2p sites (a pretty small file). If anything needs changing, you change the main server, it populates across the system. When “scraping” the swarm, you will find updated hashes indicating something changed … match hash to updates, you get updated. Nobody can steal their .p2p DNS entry because, essentially, it doesn’t exist (on the “official” DNS anyways). Also, it doesn’t need to be too efficient; likely the first iteration of the system will only be managing like 100,000 IPs anyways (1MB file?).

    Great idea, though the real win would be getting it integrated so that normal nubs can use it (stock inclusion in various apps).

  • Marcel Esser

    And how exactly are you going to stop the government when they legislate control over IP routing?

    This is a novel idea, but it will never work.

  • Kmaid

    @78 QFT lol.

  • chrisk

    Here is a blog post about the project and also about the Telecomix DNS, which has a different approach:

    http://christopherkullenberg.se/?p=1936

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  • ragefest

    @73 / hotdog
    All IP’s can be traced to an extent, and it’d be likely to be traced enough where they could very easily (I could) find out the origin ISP that’s hosting the DNS, etc.

    It’s just how the internet works. If the IP is untraceable, then no one would be able to make a full connection to that IP, making it useless and certainly not capable of hosting DNS.

    All countries are working together in this matter, The Netherlands, Sweeden, etc are suppose to be the countries that the MPAA/ RIAA can’t touch, but that is simply not true.

    They can, and will time they certainly will.

    If piracy is to continue it needs to be reworked like it is in this article.

    I still disagree with the whole notion of piracy, as a movement. If the MPAA and RIAA run out of money, they’ll collapse, we’ll end up with junk movies and there will a lot less pirates because most people don’t like downloading crappy songs and movies.

    I know my buddies wouldn’t get any thrill of saying they downloaded a sweet movie for free, because that movie will instead be a piece of crap thrown together by a 500$ budget group of 10 people with a crappy script.

  • forthekids

    I think this is awesome for the file sharing community. I just hope that it doesn’t make sick things easier to distribute like kiddy porn. but then again the government is worried more about money for the media empires than the twisted shit those poor kids go through.

    The movie and music industries should be using file sharing to help guide them towards making better movies we want to see at the theaters (not the crap they have now) or the music industry should be concentrating on getting people to go to concerts not trying to make people look bad for down loading a few songs or movies cause they charge too much for a CD or DVD.

    it is kool though that such awesome innovation can come out of it thou

  • truth

    @82 Ever hear of a network routing ontop of a network. Everything is possible, the impossible just takes a little longer.

  • Anonymous

    Great! Is this the beggining of the new era?

  • ragefest

    @87

    That still does not solve the underlying problem. It is still very easily traceable.

  • Anonymous

    I like it. I like it very much!

  • Anonymmous

    i see this system being ripe for dns poisoning. good luck with that

  • hotdog

    @85 rerouting(ip addresses) the network when trying to find the host server into a pyramid affect when they think they have the host it bounces to another;)
    don’t forget most ip’s do this everytime you start your modem am i right or wrong ?
    Secondly if we all go on believing that we have to rely on major industry bigwigs then we will never harvest true power and showing them the powers others have the independent industry is soon to rise my good friends…

    Another example of secret society industry artist well known not just government.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX-xVN0xERk&NR=1

  • Anonymous

    This is great and proves that by the time the government gets around to legislating something technology has passed it by.

    File sharing will not end because of a few domain seizures it will morph and change. As long as industry refuses to price their product properly file sharing will find a way to exist.

    I would like to see an ispless internet. Right isp’s get a lot of money for doing almost nothing. A large part of the monthly internet fee is pure profit.

    If you had a more decentralized internet and could choose from thousands of internet service providers instead of 3 or 4 your internet might cost only $1 or so a month.

    Right now the internet is on the verge of severe government control and censorship worldwide. A new completely decentralized internet needs to be built.

    The US Gov won’t just stop at the current bill to seize domains they will eventually seize icann and take world wide control of the internet. They will then appoint a czar that will pick and choose what domains to allow world wide. The US will then have control of the greatest information sharing device man has ever invented. Freedom to do say and share on the internet will be limited to what the US gov decides is politically correct.

  • Anonymous

    @92: or you use your .p2p domain to link to your .onion website…

  • Borderliner

    Just hope that once they’re ready they’ll provide native clients for different OS’s, not just some bloated generetic Java based client (yes I know that using Java or some other runtime system makes the whole thing easier, but it never the less doesn’t change the fact that Java is bloated).
    Running a 50+ megs application just for yor P2P client and occasional visits to P2P sites is simply overkill (why are there so few people running YaCy? not only because it’s not well known but also because it comes as a Java-based package that’s quite unstable on older hardware).
    Accessing .P2P sites doesn’t have to be a problem, there could be gateways which redirect traffic to it (like there’s Tor2Web for .onion sites).

    I do like the idea of using BT to move data around, it gives yet another legit usage for the protocol (y)

  • LOL

    “”i see this system being ripe for dns poisoning. good luck with that
    “”

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  • anon

    @96

    does not understand how the internet works

    and any system where a computer query another random computer for information, the info could be wrong. for example, what would stop me from just hacking the software to tell the people querying me the wrong ip address.

  • DrO

    I hope this effort pans out nicely.

    I envision future where individuals and companies are free to buy/sell services and goods from each other, without government sticking in its nose.

    Also, I envision p2p marketplaces, where online ads and other goods are sold and bought.

    Can anyone come up with an open source p2p AdSense killer? Do we really need Google to do it for us?

  • lverona

    I just hope this application will be cross platform and not Windows only.

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  • Lucian

    Wouldn’t ISP’s be able to block the .p2p domains?

  • Yeah

    Hm.

  • Frank

    Power to the people! Fu$k governments! We are the future.

  • dontbehzad

    Thumbs up for free internets!
    http://www.full-dl.com/

  • TheVisitors

    I do not support piracy, but I completely disagree with the way The American Government setup this.

    I’d be one of the first official companies who would be willing to setup a p2p domain extension. Although we do not share any files on our site, we still would be willing to adapt this in support of our beliefs that what The American Government and the way they did this as wrong.

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  • r

    Distributed DNS system http://tinyurl.com/24zd5tc

  • LOL

    How will address records for domains be updated consistently across all peers in the network?

    What about hosts with dynamic IPs?

    What could stop a bot net from DoS’ing the network by making a massive amount of requests?

    Attackers could carry invalid DNS information.

  • Anonymous

    Youtube shuts down ‘liarpoliticians’ account http://is.gd/i0Gfx

  • Anonymous

    Arthur C. Clarke

    blockquote>
    The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible.

    /\

    New ideas pass through three periods:
    1) It can’t be done.
    2) It probably can be done, but it’s not worth doing.
    3) I knew it was a good idea all along!

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  • Mugwump

    This is amazing. Great work. EVERYONE should support this. Gov’t can pass all the legislation it wants; it won’t apply when this system is up and running.

    To the developers: YOU are the true patriots, putting the internet in the hands of the people. Thank you for recognizing this inexcusable offense on our freedoms, and coming up with a solution to combat it.

    Thank you, and DON’T QUIT. We need you.

  • ragefest

    @96

    ISP’s still do a LOT of work. Because of the profits they are able to invest in new technologies to make internet faster and available to more people (especially harder in the US since there are a lot of areas that are pretty isolated.

    The price that ISP’s are charging are getting cheaper / for the speed their providing.

    They will always have high end packages, but there’s no way you could of gotten internet this cheap 8 years old for the speed you get now.

    Since are progressing for the better and I don’t think ISP’s as a whole are bad. If they were combined, who would control them?

    One company? The government?
    That would leave no room for competition of price or service quality, and would make it easy to to universally block things.

    Of course this is completely off topic here ;)

    I still think it’s great people have actively developed something that can counter the new law that may be put in place.

    This doesn’t look like the most perfect system for DNS, but we shouldn’t forget that things can constantly be improved on- no doubt that will happen here.

  • Balls Mahonney

    as long as it will work for linux….I’m cool

  • DJDANKVT

    @ anybody involved in the Dot-P2P project…
    You guys are the effing bomb, keep it up! Fight the “big guy” from censoring the internet and totally ruining it!!!!!

    Put that in your pipe and smoke it you COICA-backing arseholes from the US political assembly trying to ruin the internet as we know it!

  • LOL

    DNS is already a distributed database. Isn’t the real issue who is in charge of the data hosted by that distributed database?

  • Smarter than You

    Really, this means nothing at all, most ISP’s already block DNS requests outside of their network to discourage spayware, viruses and the like from sending you to an untrusted DNS server that could be sending you to copycat banking sites and other location designed to steal your identity.

    Thats ok you say, it will get wrapped in a VPN. Wrong again, the ISP’s will make the use of a VPN a part of an upgraded package that is not available to Joe consumer. You will have to have a business account and thus be paying more money.

    Simply put, due to the abuse of P2P it is going to be a dead app. Just like having all the warez sites killed off so to shall P2P die.

  • Mr.ICE

    I just hope this won’t be a traffic hog as some users have limited traffic

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  • A

    http://wiki.opennicproject.org/dotP2PTLD

    THAT’S the page explaining the rules

  • neostyles

    And this will solve their problems? The government will get court order to shut down the system if it needs to. I would have thought that after all this time, people have learned that running from the law is hopeless. Haven’t they ever watched a cop show before? Are they really deluding themselves into thinking that, by creating a new program, that they are making themselves untouchable?

  • elduka

    I dont understand what it does, does it just add a new type of domain extension? does that make a difference?

  • Anonymous

    “And some people think government hinders inovation”

    This is actually a great point. History is full of examples of government forcing industries to innovate. For example, when government mandated strict new fuel efficiency standards in the 1970s, the auto industry responded by engineering much more fuel-efficient engines. Today’s Mustang GT has the gas mileage of the economy car of the 70s.

  • Drake

    This is a creative and effective way to counter domain take downs. I can’t wait to try it out.

  • Anonymous

    you people will be the death of the music industry. I don’t give a damn about corporations and labels, but by de-monetizing the system you are taking the food out of artists mouths, and not just the lars ulrichs of the world, the starving musicians, recording engineers, producers and the rest of the industry

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  • Anonymous

    LOL! LOL! LOL! IN YOUR FACE!!!!!

  • Toni

    Wonderful!

    Best wishes to developers implimenting this project. It has to be done

  • VIBrunazo

    Flattred because this idea is the most awesome since popcorn.

  • u tw@

    @124 so by your theory if nobdy pays for music, music will cease to exist ??? u tw@

  • Anonymous

    The Ifpi web site is having a lot of problems. What is going On?

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    @124 Anonymous

    “you people will be the death of the music industry.”

    I am trying to access the ifpi web site. it does not work.

    Did you do something Neostyle?

    Ya I know it is you.

  • Anonymous

    Soon they will be the music industry domain name and the music industry internet that nobody will use (except them) and they will our domain name and our internet from which they will be excluded.

  • Anonymous

    @85 Marcel Esser

    “And how exactly are you going to stop the government when they legislate control over IP routing?”

    Neostyle , HELP!

    I am trying todown soem pdf files from the IFPI web site it does not work!

    What did you do?

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  • Anonymous

    Where is the IFPI tech support?

    may be I should call Joe Bite me.

    He seem to be so smart with internet stuff.

  • Anonymous

    IfPI.org: “Unable to connect”

    What does this mean?

    Ok I will keep trying until I get through.

    In life you should never give up.

  • hotdog

    SOME OF THE COMMENTERS CEASE TO GET THE POINT WE ARE NOT AGAINST MUSIC WE ARE AGAINST GREEDY CORPORATE SCUM DESTROYING OUR COUNTRIES WE ARE TIRED DESTROYING FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!THIS IS NO LONGER A WAR IN THE US IT’S WORLD WIDE THE GOVERNMENTS HURTING US ALL!!

  • Anonymous

    hrumph. I’m all for innovation, and dare I say it, getting ‘backups’ of things; torn though, this technology will be used for bad as well as good; it’ll enable scams, fraud & malware that are very difficult to remove, and frankly, most of the people on the internet aren’t smart enough to get that; you’re outnumbered by people that aren’t techno-literate.

    Do you really want those people to have 100 megabit connections & to be on an internet where threats can’t be taken down due to persistant DNS or whatever else? no matter how blatant or damaging the malware is being? We’re at a point where one kid in China would be able to semi-permanently remove parts of the internet.

    … but yeah the music industry are pretty much jerks. I don’t think p2p is naturally going to hurt the artists though – steam worked great for the games industry, giving more money than ever direct to developers; and music acts will still earn a lot in concerts. Many won’t like it, but I’d be tempted to spread my media for free as advertising for people to come to concerts.

  • ErasmusSB854

    That is the most insane and
    Impressively elegant solution to this most vexing problem!

  • annon

    Why not get rid of ICANN completely?

  • Anonymous

    As a programmer and network admin myself I can envision quite a few security holes in this proposed setup. While I do agree the methods the US Government is using borders on communism at a global scale, if/when P2P dies there will be another system waiting in the midst to spring up and take its place. Napster, Kazaa, Audiogalaxy, Newsbin, Bittorrent…there will be a new method on the block soon.

  • Anonymous

    I hate to piss on everyone’s bonfire, but this is a phishing wet dream. I’d like to see their plans for getting around that.

  • wtfologist

    The design should take http://www.unifiedroot.com into consideration, it’s a whole new frontier in the cyberverse.

    I look into my crystal ball and see millions of IE users unknowingly stuck in ICANN’T sector… the AOL of the 21st century!

  • Anonymous

    @132

    “SOME OF THE COMMENTERS CEASE TO GET THE POINT WE ARE NOT AGAINST MUSIC WE ARE AGAINST GREEDY CORPORATE SCUM DESTROYING OUR COUNTRIES”

    True but me I am against the music too.

    Not long ago my girlfriend took me to a concert it was not Britney Slut but somebody like that. I though it was going to be some Beethoven stuff or something but no. They put the “”music”" to the max. The amp was clipping the speakers were distorting the music was poor (1) It was horrible. The singer women dressed like a sausage with the fat sticking out (2) was lip sinking like the titanic. Still the singer in the recording (3) was so off key that even the auto-tune at max power could not make it.

    Fortunately I had my Cellphone sound insulating noise cancellation stereo earphone and I put them in.
    It worked great (4).

    Notes:
    1) only 3 notes. What’s happen to the others notes? Someone downloaded them?

    (2) No wonder she could not sing! (Ahhh! I am shocking I am shocking!)

    (3) Probably not her anyway.

    (4) proof that for the music industry noise and music is the same thing.

  • Anonymous

    @138 wtfologist

    “I look into my crystal ball and see millions of IE users unknowingly stuck in ICANN’T sector… the AOL of the 21st century!”

    No. The entertainment industry will be stuck all by themselves with the AOL of the 21st Century, not us.

    I am sure they are going to sue each others: You violated my copyright! Wrong! You violated MMMMMYYYYY copyriiiighhtt! It is going to be fun to have a pick in their network from our network! (1)

    (1) We will be able to pick in their network but they will not be able to pick in our. Haha!)

  • Bug Spray

    “AV engineers simply aren’t as stupid as media corporations, you can trust me on that. Their job is to protect your computer against unwanted malicious software, not P2P networks.”

    There is no trust in proprietary software, there’s only faith.

    Legally and with full permission of the companies behind their products, show me the source code to Norton, to AVG, to Spybot, to Superantispyware, Malwarebytes, EMIsoft, the list goes on, impossible.

    You have the same faith in Norton and other products scanning your computers to protect your system as you would in a magical unicorn.

    Trusted systems don’t run unknown proprietary software, they run operating systems which are open source, you want security, try OpenBSD and build from there, just don’t install closed source software if you expect any degree of security.

    Bite down on this one:

    Google: webroot “Steven Thomas”

    Just another mysterious person gone crazy or something more? He hasn’t been forgotten, not by any means, nor the strange details surrounding his passing.

    “Steven Thomas, considered a security visionary for founding anti-spyware company Webroot, was discovered dead Sunday in Hawaii, some two weeks after he was reported missing.”

    Never old news when it’s of this nature.

  • el33t

    Prof. Sirer’s group at Cornell University already built a P2P-DNS called CoDoNs. Actually, this work was done 5-6 years ago.

  • pp

    What done before? Well I like even better then…

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  • Anonymous

    @124

    There are box office movies profit 1 billon$$$ and starving?

  • Anonymous

    @117 no decentralized apps will still work Ie: ares, frostwire, soulseek, winMx (patched version), e mu l e (tf sensors the word without spaces for some reason, edonkey2000 (patched/hacked), Overnet, DC++, etc @129 Anon have been attacking Operation Payback Targets IFPI, Warner Brothers in Response to Pirate Bay Verdict http://is.gd/i1sSV

  • Just Some Guy
  • lulz

    @142 Starving for drugs and alcohol.

  • Bob

    The gubbernaut will never stop. All of you praising the escape from the mousetrap are fools. THEY WILL NEVER STOP. Maybe if the hackers showed there true power they might ease of a little but otherwise you can kiss freedom goodbye

  • MrScott

    I was thinking a few day ago when I read about the Internet censorship act that a possible solution was to government censorship was to create a separate DNS structure outside of any governments control. Nice to see that people are already on top of that.

  • Kaptain Krunch

    Commerce will like that. LOLOLOLOL!

  • cyko_01

    shareaza(dot)com?
    imesh(dot)com?
    Lphant(dot)com?
    emule(dot)com?
    ares(dot)com?

    all scam sites! how do we prevent these people from also registering the (dot)p2p domains?!

  • sparkie

    @141: unifiedroot still has a centralized registrar, which doesn’t solve anything.

  • anon

    Just bought a QNAP 659 Pro+ NAS Box.
    Would gladly be of service.

  • PL Plucker

    The internet is truly the land of the free and the home of the brave.

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  • NT1789

    If they really wanted to they could still block the individual IP address of the server. China does this. I don’t see how a de-centralized domain naming system is the answer ? Only way is Stenography and 100% decentralized network /w encryption and random generated keys. That is very slow because of the overhead cost for the network to operate. And even then it would be vulnerable to attack.

  • me

    The system needs several features..
    1. Distributed Nature..
    2. Encrypted payloads (w Checksums)
    3. Distributed registration
    4. Anonymous registration
    5. Ability to duplicate all top level domains (thus we can have our own DNS and say screw the existing DNS systems)
    6. DNS will not cost anything at all.
    7. Support Dynamic DNS so people behind home routers can easily have sites.
    8. Simplify DNS as many DNS features are actually not really needed.
    9. Allow it to coexist with existing DNS for those that want both.
    And more.. :)

  • me

    Oh, and
    10. the system acts as a proxy also so that the destination is not the returned ip. Thus the DNS can proxy the site too and the real ip of the site is never returned directly.

  • Bruce Wagner

    If you are seriously interested in this… You need to GET INVOLVED.

    All the links are live here: http://dot-p2p.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

  • Bob

    Well,

    this has been done before, I recall an organisation serving “.pirate” TLDs. But everybody has to be aware of, that the one running the DNS servers you use is capable to sent you wherever he wants. So make sure they are trustworthy, or you might end up with a fake banking/pay-pal login site etc.
    BTW, is there a way to use two DNServers concurrently, say one which can definitely be trusted and one that servers unofficial TLDs. Only if the first one gives a NXDomain back (f.e. when trying to resolve a .p2p domain), the second one jumps in.

  • velvetfog

    If the bit torrent community can operate a DHT (Distributed Hash Table) database distributed across several million computers, we can most certainly do the same for DNS.

    The time for doing this has arrived.
    We need it.

  • You think this is a good thing?

    It’s a huge step toward fragmenting the internet into teh internets. This is not a solution.

  • Violated

    Clearly this .p2p TLD needs to interface with DNS.

    If it interfaces with the DNS for ISPs then people need do nothing to find thepiratebay.p2p or torrentz.p2p etc.

    The weakness then is governments can force ISPs to block .p2p DNS. Or even worse block the resolved IP.

    People could run this add-on on their own computer to handle .p2p resolve.

    In the end though the solution is clear when DNS runs a propagation system. So they only need one main DNS server to send DNS queries to other DNS systems. They can have backup servers for redundancy and I guess P2P transfer keeps it uncentralised. They want to interface the ISP DNS system to tap into this .p2p network and provide backup.

  • ctman

    Its great the amerifags decided to start seizing domains, because if they hadn’t it may not have spawned this wonderfull inovation that money just can’t buy.

  • Conleth

    This is a great idea I sure hope it can be implemented

    HACK THE PLANNNNET..

    All y’all net savvy superheroes need to join forces with your fellow men and women who are in the streets protesting for our freedoms and assist in regaining control of OUR interwebz

    Fuck the man..

    POWER TO THE GEEKS & FREEDOM FOR THE PEOPLE

  • Searinox

    The reason why antipiracy campaigns will always be a step behind pirates is because their only means of attack are through legislation, which pirates counter with software technology.

    Legislation is rigid, have far-reaching implications, and are difficult to advance and require enormous amounts of cash to instate and uphold.

    Software technology is free, extremly flexible, easy to develop, and once it’s ready it can easily be passed to tens of millions of people.

    The DHS’ efforts should soon be rendered null by a simple DNS-resolving browser/OS plugin. And, as always, antipiracy campaigners will be back where they started.

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  • Decision

    (1) this alternative DNS system could technically work.

    There would be much chaos at first, as the bad gurus try to manipulate it to their own ends.

    Eventually the good gurus will win.

    (2) unfortunately, this new system has a flaw.

    TO ACCESS THE NETWORK, A USER MUST HAVE AN ISP…..

    JUST LIKE NOW….

    THE GOVERNMENT WILL JUST FORCE ISP’S TO THROTTLE THE P2P TRAFFIC OF THEIR CUSTOMERS……..

    THE ISP’S WILL RESIST THIS, AND AS AN ALTERNATIVE, WILL “RAISE PRICES” FOR INTERNET ACCESS…

    (3) The net result of the creation of this alternative DNS network, will be HIGHER PRICES for internet access in the future…

    ………….

    MARK MY WORDS..

  • Unleash1776

    This is absolutely AWESOME!!! Resistance to tyranny, is obedience to God.

  • goodstuff

    I’m in. Get it up and runnin’!

  • Benjamin

    For me, it has never been about piracy. It has been about sticking it to the man. The next American revolution will be fought online.

  • Thatguy1

    Looks like Al Gore’s internet is becoming obsolete, for a more USer friendly version.

  • FreemonSandlewould

    Classic!

    The theory is that the internet reroutes itself around censorship like it would reroute itself around damage.

    Let’s watch this experiment. I hope it is successful.

  • bubbaville

    Check this out! If you go to wikileaks and you can’t get it to open the home page, just refresh and there you have it. If you click on anything it will say the page doesn’t exist. Just right click on the topic and Open in a new window. There you have it. BE WARY OF TORRENT SITES! THEY ARE ALL FULL OF TROJANS AND MAL-WARE. bubba

  • 32656

    It doesn’t matter what type of technology is developed, the F-ing Government (yes big “G” like God) will eventually take it over and “regulate” it because we out here are not capable of anything without Government oversight.

  • NewCitySong

    Kudos! Count me in.

  • Robbzilla

    @53: That’s my main concern with this. If they can keep “DNS” entries secure, and resist redirection or hijacking, I’d be all for it. But that’ll be the trick, now won’t it?

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  • Anonymous

    You guys praise freedom. Freedom from “those greedy capitalists” freedom from the government, freedom. The Constitution grants to Congress this power:
    “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries”

    Intellectual work (This includes music and movie that you love to download for free under the guise of having principle and calling the OTHER person greedy) is protected, not by corporate fat cats, but by the Constitution. If you produce something, it is yours and you have a right to protect and defend what is yours.

    At the very least, if you don’t care about freedoms as protected in the Constitution, be real about why you want p2p sharing. It isn’t about “Sticking it” to the man or being a Robin Hood to corporate america….. it is about you wanting the new hot movies and lots of music without having to spend money on it, which makes YOU the greedy ones.

    I don’t much care. You want to steal someone else’s work, that’s up to you. I’m just tired of y’all trying to make yourselves up to be some sort of patriot or someone standing up for the ‘little guy’ when all you’re really doing is pissing on them.

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  • John Connor

    Isn’t this how Skynet came to be?

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  • me

    @52 Anonymous: “Yes, proxy sites can be used to evade IP blocking, but an automatic method for the less geek-inclined would be helpful.”

    How about distributed proxies? I’ll proxy your requests if you’ll proxy mine (or rather: you’ll proxy others’ requests).

    And come to think of it, this is similar to what Freenet and Tor do: every node there serves as a proxy to others.

    If there’s one IP blocking mechanism that ultimately works, it’s precisely this kind of multi-hop proxying.

  • raizie

    I got an idea… Why don’t we work really hard to elect representatives to our government that champion freedom and personal property right (such as conservatives do)? Then we don’t have to create a “shadow-net” that hides identites and promotes and propagates malware. Deal with a real problem like corrupt people and you won’t have a corrupt system. Elect people with moral character – the best and easiest solution.

  • me

    @163 velvetfog: “If the bit torrent community can operate a DHT (Distributed Hash Table) database distributed across several million computers, we can most certainly do the same for DNS.”

    In a technical sense, DHT already *is* a kind of DNS: query a hash into the DHT, and get a host IP as a result.

  • Mark Matis

    The filthy bastards could take down bittorrent, but won’t touch WikiLeaks. Quelle surprise! May the pigs rot where they belong for what they’ve done!

  • PirateCaptain

    And who says the private sector can’t evolve without the government?

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  • John

    This will fail if they don’t address the security issues faced by the existing DNS system.

  • rabo

    Doesn’t the gov’t like re-distributing our wealth? Ohh..but not the files of their precious lobbyists. Hypocrites.

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  • FTGovernment

    Take two atta boys out of petty cash!! Glad to see that this is already being worked.

  • Ranger_Ric

    Just remember, most of you people voted for the nazi who caused all this. Think before you vote for a Maxist democrat next time.

  • Ranger_Ric

    Remember this in the 2012 election, you might not get a third chance to get it right. Marxist dems want power, they don’t care who they step on to get it and that includes the morons who vote for them!

  • Cheerleader

    Ernesto,

    I found your blog post through a link from a news site. For us non-techies out here who are totally supportive of BitTorrent and opposed to the takeovers, can you explain in layman’s term’s what the p2p plan is? This should get out to the world, but many of us get lost in the jargon. Thanks!

  • KH

    Oh it’s hilarious to read these comments from moronic desk jockeys.

    Keep one thing in mind as you create this “new” old idea… the transmission of the information between two computers happens on what??

    Don’t forget… your information… regardless of what software is written to transmit it outside the scope and reach of government… still has to travel on lines maintained by… you guessed it… BIG CORPA.

    http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/att-and-other-isps-may-be-getting-ready-to-filter/

    So how will you transmit your data from pc A to pc B without the prying eyes of gooberment and their minions snooping on what you do? What… you gonna encrypt it? HA!

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  • Anonymous

    I LOLd at people saying “I don’t support piracy” but meanwhile they download movies, songs “illegaly”. Gotta love hypocrisy!

  • aCreator

    Hi Pirates and Thieves!
    As a creator of intellectual property (composer of music), it is so interesting to see you patting yourselves on the back for efforts to steal my livelihood in the name of sharing.
    Can I come over and take your car or house away from you? You could just share with another pirate, eh?
    The music-movie BUSINESS motivates and feeds the creative flow you want to destroy. Hope you enjoy the museum of intellectual property you are ransacking, as there will be
    nothing of quality created.
    That way, you can share antiques and sampled garbage put together by computer hacks, not creators of art.

  • Some Issue

    Actually this is kind of scary, what if bad entries are added, directing you to a site pretending to be your bank, where you then give them your account information and password.

  • dtmf2600

    This project sounds great if you can keep the “vote & money hungry” crowd out of your computer. We all know the greed of Microsoft, correct(?)! Ever heard of logicbombs, botnets, and rootkits? After Microsoft loads a few of these babies on your computer through updates, then one day the silver bullet update or IRC command kills our new P2P app. Just something to consider.

  • garlic Breath

    How about some of you computer geeks take a look a this, and lift it up for the sheeple to see it.

    WHAT IS TAXED dot COM

    Computer scientist data mines tax code, finds government fraud.

    __)-)
    –(0 0)-
    __\~/
    \\ `

    __)-)
    –(0 0)-
    __\~/
    \\ `

    __)-)
    –(0 0)-
    __\~/
    \\ `

    Wake up the Sheeple.

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  • Anonymous

    #195, hello troll.

    “Downloading” aka “copying” is not “stealing”. I wish I could download cars though. Money shouldn’t drive motivation just look at Leonardo da Vinci, Ludwig van Beethoven…

    Conclusion: you are an idiot and you wish your “art” was good enough to sell and get rich (or not)… but you don’t because you are a LOSER.

  • Lee

    This is nothing new. The “Adult” industry did this same thing back in 1997 and 1998 when the government was playing heavy handed with them.

    It did not catch on though. The only ones that this will work with is the people really looking to skirt the laws with P2P.

  • KH

    @195

    Bud… you’re just a “casualty of war”. The “movie and music BIZ” has long been raping the hell out of consumers distributing CRAP passed as “ART” in the drive to raise the bottom line.

    As a biz manager myself… I understand the need to be paid for time spent on a task and I truly understand the purpose of “MONEY”… however, when you rip people off for long periods of time… it’s only a matter of time before the table is turned and the wolf becomes the hunted. You just happen to be the one to be without a seat in this game of musical chairs.

    Might want to look into another profession to supplement your loss of income. I hear food will be a good place to be… farm much? ;-)

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  • Anonymous

    @ 117 Smarter than you

    “ISP’s will make the use of a VPN a part of an upgraded package that is not available to Joe consumer. You will have to have a business account”

    Sure they will.

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  • aCreator

    Sorry to rain on your “pirates & thieves” parade, but as a matter of fact, Beethoven was the first composer to make a living on commissioned work. As was daVinci.
    A little homework on your part might not make you appear so ignorant of arts history…
    But then again, you don’t care about the creators, as part of the “gimme something of yours to steal for free generation.”
    By the way, if you can read more than one or two syllable words, check out the history you know nothing of, below…sheet music was the medium at that time…all the way to 1955….before it was replaced entirely by technology.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_van_Beethoven

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Supper_%28Leonardo_da_Vinci%29

    signed,

  • dtmf2600

    @195 / 203
    aCreator, you’re putting yourself on a pedestal hoping that those people that only listen to your creations for free will be there when they can’t. Your product (not art) has a value. In reality, your exorbitant prices are not worth it. True, free is not fair either; but, your industry is not willing to sell product at an acceptable price. This concept is call economics.

  • aCreator

    Interesting rationalization, since 45rpm singles cost $.99 in 1955 until their replacement with LPs in 1970s.
    Prices now are still $.99 for a single. Sorry you are not able to afford it. Sure, today’s music is not as great as the past, but then again, computer hacks only started destroying creativity since the digital age. Nothing like a good old drum “machine” and cut and paste others materials over bad-filthy poetry. I agree…seems like the creators have left the building, eh?

  • Chuck

    Censorship never works. I have no idea what all this jargon means, but my guts tell me you guys are right, and the feds, as usual, are wrong.

  • Stupid Obama Voters

    So let me get this right: the Obama voting left winger liberals who run a website that is used by Obama voting liberals are all mad because Obama took their site away? LOL. Serves all you stupid IGNORANT democrats right! This is what happens when you stop thinking for yourselves, and put liberals in power.

  • museprotector

    This would not be needed if all illegal, stolen, cloned content were not so freely distributed by so many anarchist who steal. There is no such thing as a free ride, you’ll pay for it in some form or another. Law of the universe.

  • Jcwhite

    I cant wait to see the beta tests of this idea.. seems like COICA and other FCC net neutrality laws/regulations are inevitable. Lets just hope that people can get the information to use these domains before the internet as we know it is crippled

  • Jcwhite

    BTW this is a NONPARTISAN issue, Bushs administration wanted net neutrality just as much as the Obama administration. I tend to think its people with more power than the puppet president are the ones who truly want to constrict the free flow of information on the web.

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  • Tpunx99gsx

    Where Can we donate to this project. I would be glad to help.

  • Anonymous

    @203 aCreator

    “Sorry to rain on your “pirates & thieves” parade, but as a matter of fact, Beethoven was the first composer to make a living on commissioned work.”

    Because “a Creator” think he is beethoven! And believe that it’s crappy RIAA bowlshit stuff is worth it! You can still wait for your commission you moron!

    Whahahahahahahahahhahaha!

    Sorry to rain on you “parasite” and troll!

    Oh!!! I recognized you Neostyle!

    Good try!

  • Anonymous

    @172 Benjamin

    “For me, it has never been about piracy. It has been about sticking it to the man. The next American revolution will be fought online.”

    Let’s collect big guns and bullet proof vests just in case.

  • Digital texan

    Love the idea. DNS that is as self healing as packet routing. Big concern with DNS distributed how easy it could be to route secure traffic to fake servers to harvest passwords and other data.

  • TJP

    The question is, which freedom are we supposed to be protecting here? The freedom of BitTorrent users to swap copyrighted music, movies, software, etc. back and forth, or the freedom of content providers to make a return on their investment?

    Given, the RIAA is a bunch of scumbags, but that doesn’t mean p2p filesharing isn’t the single largest drain on Internet resources, or the single best vector for spreading viruses (many of which steal credit card numbers or contribute to the billions of spam emails). As I’ve said before, those of us who pay for what we use are subsidizing those of you who don’t, and that also extends to higher Internet bills whenever you suck up all the bandwidth.

    I’d scream bloody murder if they were shutting down sites that weren’t as their main activity promoting theft and fraud. However, they aren’t.

  • Anonymous

    @191

    “Remember this in the 2012 election, you might not get a third chance to get it right. Marxist dems want power, they don’t care who they step on to get it and that includes the morons who vote for them!”

    Ya but our current problem is with the big corporations controlling our gov.

    The rep are even more pro corporations than the DEM by the way and they want power too. They are lying pretending they don’t. They got tons of money for their campaign from big corporations via the chamber of commerce in particular even from foreign companies (Chinese, French, British, Russian. . .) trying to push their particular interest at the expense of the US citizen.

    We are having a very very rough problem with our democracy and our economy right now and we should not buy into this Dem VS Rep division BS while these guys are robbing us blind from both camps.

    The only way out is to unit together as US citizen regardless of the way we vote restore the constitution and kick all the buns out of Washington in all the branches, Dem and Rep at once, white house, congress justice the Fed, purge the FBI and the CIA too.

    Only few members of the white house and congress Dem or Rep are sincerely and truly on the side of the citizen. Most of them are doing the deed of powerful corporations such as Vivendi Universal or BP.

    We have the constitutional right to do this since our government is becoming abusive.

    Then we sit-down decide what to do together, organize new elections to save our country our constitution and our democracy by keeping the corporations out of the government.

    It is not going to be easy. At first it is going to hurt really hard as our standard of living will dip down during the transition.

    Our standard of leaving is going to dip-down anyway since the current system is not sustainable. Middle class can not buy stuff anymore and the money is not circulating so the economy can not really recover right now.

    The most important thing is to stick together so nobody starve or stay in the street and criminality stay low while we rebuild our economy and our society.

  • sparkie

    @TJP: They aren’t… YET

    They WILL. Zero doubt.

  • Lazarus

    This is a good idea, if the DNS system is replaced and the replacement gains popularity the governments of the world will be completely out of the decision making process.

  • Anonymous

    @213 TJP

    “The question is, which freedom are we supposed to be protecting here?”

    . . . . . . . . . . .

    “content providers to make a return on their investment?”

    “Content providers” are not content providers because they don’t generate the content they just sale it.

    “Content providers” are big huge fucking corporations acting like parasites and messing-up our societies our democracies and the entire planet.

    The freedom to make a return on their investment come after the freedom of the citizen.

    The bill of right apply to citizens and not to corporations.

    I believe that this is answering your question unequivocally.

  • Zim

    Good luck controlling Russia and China. Oops, k3yg3ns and k3ylogg3rs in P2P rampant and uncontrolled?

  • Int@rNutz

    Hack the Plant!

  • Jim

    The government is on the verge of ruining one of the greatest inventions of the 20th century (the free internet) I hope the guys succeed developing this answer to govt regulation succeed!!!!

  • ByteRider

    I proposed the “Proxy List DNS” (PLDNS) several months ago. Currently working on a solution, however I’m just one of MANY folks doing so.

    The government thinks that you control people’s portal into the internet via the DNS list. Not true, that list was never designed to be a “who’s who” of the internet, but a “who’s where”. Controlling the DNS list simply means we take the list away from the government. PROBLEM SOLVED.

  • Anonymous

    [quote]The question is, which freedom are we supposed to be protecting here? The freedom of BitTorrent users to swap copyrighted music, movies, software, etc. back and forth, or the freedom of content providers to make a return on their investment?[/quote]

    You are missing the point completely, this has nothing to do with sharing copyrighted material. The freedoms that are attempting to be protected with this proposed project are freedom of speech and the freedom of the open internet.

    First they came for the pirates…

  • Voss Is Dos

    I laugh at you and live on your pretty interwebs!!!

  • PuddiPuddiPuddiPuddiPuddiPuddiPuddiPuddi

    if only the government would censor drudge. :3

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  • jonny

    This is perfect – death to all governments and the people in them for trying to control every nook and crany of our lives. It’s time to take our lives back and stuff government 6 feet under where it BELONGS

  • GFR

    Online music sharing isn’t “Stealing” because the original owner isn’t deprived of the use of their property. It isn’t even copyright infringement if you don’t charge for it.

    The music industry forced the US government to make music sharing illegal in order to protect their revenues. There is no moral basis for this law.

    If this proposed new system works it could be the basis for an electronic money system that would allow people to buy and sell without paying taxes. That would really piss off the government.

  • Mikey in Dallas

    [b]FTP[/b]

    We are slowly losing more and more of our freedoms, as this having to develop a completely new approach demonstrates.

    Those of you who voted him in, are you still proud of yourselves?

  • j35t3r

    +1 seeding… now.

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  • bamfan5520

    Its about time for action…I would be glad to see something like this get created and utilized often….The old saying is true, you want a battle, well give you a war….Id love to see what comes of this in the near future

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  • Anonymous

    “SOME OF THE COMMENTERS CEASE TO GET THE POINT WE ARE NOT AGAINST MUSIC WE ARE AGAINST GREEDY CORPORATE SCUM DESTROYING OUR COUNTRIES WE ARE TIRED DESTROYING FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!THIS IS NO LONGER A WAR IN THE US IT’S WORLD WIDE THE GOVERNMENTS HURTING US ALL!!”

    Wrong. You are against anyone trying to actually make a living by creating art. You are not damaging Sony or Disney by downloading their movies…you are merely ensuring that small independent film companies that give a damn about making movies that matter will die off and you will be left with a world of Spiderman 8 and Sex and the City 12. Enjoy sleeping in the bed you are making.

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  • scott

    quit voting these socialist asshole into office and you wont have to worry so much about them trying to take control of everything

  • Greycoat

    226 Dec 02, 2010 at 00:39 by PuddiPuddiPuddiPuddiPuddiPuddiPuddiPuddi said:

    “if only the government would censor drudge. :3″

    And if they did, then I say time for civil war. In defense of the U.S. Constitution, our liberty, our freedoms, and our wallets I already support the overthrow of the Obama “Farxist” (cross between a Marxist and a Fascist) regime.

    I DO NOT support the theft of intellectual property. If you don’t like the price, then don’t buy it. You are not entitled to it just because you don’t like the price. If you don’t pay for it you are a THIEF.

    However, I do support this project if it is a way for people to voice their opinions that run counter to the official government position, i.e. particularly to this radical in the White House. I run an anti-Obama anti-Islam/Sharia site and I believe it is only a matter of time before they shut me down because THEY don’t approve. When they do I want other options.

  • listen_silent

    Props! Keep these clowns out of our right to share freely.

  • Thomas

    It is seriously stunning to me, the amount of time, energy and resources you people devote to stealing the creative work of other human beings.

    And you actually treat it as a moral cause. Unbelievable.

  • Thomas

    This is the kind of stupidity you idiots have been spouting since you middle-schoolers discovering Napster:

    “Online music sharing isn’t ‘Stealing’ because the original owner isn’t deprived of the use of their property. It isn’t even copyright infringement if you don’t charge for it.”

    Yeah, actually, you ARE depriving the owner: You’re depriving him of his exclusivity over the copying and distribution of his work. You’re stealing that exclusivity.

    And what’s this stupidity about “it’s not infringement if you don’t charge for it”? What sort of idiot are you? “Charging” has no bearing on copyright infringement.

    You’re a toddler trying to play in the grownups’ room. Get out.

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  • Amused

    I’m amused by all of the MPAA/RIAA who simply don’t get the significance of this project.

    It’s not about being able to swap a couple of MP3s around; it’s about eliminating the government’s ability to censor, control or shut down content or transactions across the ‘net.

  • Amused

    I’m amused by all of the MPAA/RIAA trolls who simply don’t get the significance of this project.

    It’s not about being able to swap a couple of MP3s around; it’s about eliminating the government’s ability to censor, control or shut down content or transactions across the ‘net.

  • Oren

    So, we now will let the nerds and the idiots do as they please with no ability to control them. Good formula for total cayause when a few don’t play by the rules. Not a well thought out solution but neither was the internet in the first place.

  • lol

    I’m sorry, but I’m in an indie band, and I make more than enough to pay the rent even though I uploaded my album for free.

    People here don’t understand the mechanics and business of selling music. No, I don’t have a record label. Everything has been self-promoted.

    Free music to all who want it!

  • hahaha

    Communism

    Everyone should get everything equally

    It didn’t work in the USSR. It didn’t work in China. It doesn’t work in N Korea or Cuba. It’s not working in California or New York or Chicago. It’s not working in Washington DC.

    If you don’t like the price of movies or music, boycott. When Netflix got screwed, I canceled cable and stopped going to the theaters or buying DVD’s or renting movies. I don’t buy CD’s in stores anymore. I wait for them to come out on Itunes at a much cheaper price.

    If everyone supported the films and music by buying them at prices that you are willing to pay, and boycott them at prices you are unwilling to pay, you will have a better influence over what those prices will be.

    Yup, the bush administration and those republicans weren’t exactly conservative, they were just democrat lite. That’s why they lost so bad.

    The only time corporations become corrupt is when government is able to legislate for them. Government regulation is the driving force behind monopolies. Just look at the oil industry, perhaps the most regulated industry in the world…And damn if we aren’t paying way more for that product than we should. Look at how much insurance companies rip people off, also heavily regulated. Look at the car industry and how it’s crash and burning, or the banking industry, all of these industries are heavily regulated by government. Look at the USPS, which is in the red for billions of dollars…Government ran.

    Pirating software and music isn’t the way to go. Supporting those who provide services that you are willing to pay for is.

  • George

    All this sounds fantastic in theory. Just remember that the government ALWAYS finds a way to get its nose involved in everything.Even if things are decentralized, they will go after what ever they can get their hands on for what ever reason, they just declare it a threat and see what happens!

  • MD3

    There you go, ICANN.
    Fun is over.

  • CitizenJ

    While many of the posters, here, are concerned about losing access to shared files (the legality and morality of which I won’t address, here). I don’t think that everyone is seeing the big picture. The government didn’t do this for the owners of that content. They may gain a few political donations for doing so, but that wasn’t why they did it. They fired this shot across the bow to measure the response and work on countering it. They’re not after you. They’re getting ready for the day when they will want to end all communication that they deem “dangerous”. This is just target practice. Freedom of speech must be preserved for those who both agree and disagree with me, or we will all lose it.

  • InterWebz

    It is kinda stupid having the US control pretty much the entire internet. They also show that they are willing to cencer to protect their ‘interests’.

    While it may seem like a ‘slippery slope’ statement, what’s to stop them from censoring dissents or options they don’t agree with from other places in the world where it might be completely legal – eg Wikileaks.

  • Meshugganah

    Ask yourself who can *&@#! with the hardware before you assume distributed DNS is the ultimate trump card…

  • Bob

    The US had a very good tool at their disposal that they could have used in a time of real need but they wasted it becuse a couple trade groups got upset over people being able to find out where to download files. Now the rest of the world has taken notice and will eventually take this centralized control of domain names away from the US as they have shown they will abuse it. It was like wasting your one and only magic wish on a lollypop.

  • NetDude

    This won’t work and is a last gasp approach. The Feds will simply order ISP’s to blackhole traffic to the desired domains. There is no way around that one.

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  • WESTY

    wheres the donation button? :P

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  • chalk

    Ernesto, congrats on the continued attention that Drudge is giving you. As they say, when that happens, your site has reached a new level of success. The Wikileaks scandal was perhaps the trigger for you, but in any case, keep it going mate. You are one of the only sites out there now who is reporting on all this shit. Peace ~

  • Anonymous

    Anything, that hits, hurts, harms, damages, even destroys DHS, is a good thing. Period. Big Sissy, can smooch me in a place that rarely sees sunlight.

  • Anonymous

    USA = fascist

  • Denver

    The Government is not your friend.

  • Anonymous

    @237

    I think you’ll find it’s our room.

    We now hold the bat, the ball and decide how the game will be played.

  • Anonymous

    @232 That filesharing lessens the creative output is a myth. Film makers and musicians now have a way of getting their material released straight to the public without going through a middleman. Many have places where they will accept monetary donations for their work and even offer to send a personally autographed copy of their work for a very reasonable price.

    There is even a film currently in production in Australia that solicited their funding online in advance from private individuals for $1/frame and plans on distributing the film through bittorrent. Fun, innovative, embracing technology.

    Let’s move with the flow of the river, instead of trying to find ways of blocking it.

  • capricorn77X

    This will probably work but the way the US government is, they will probably set up something with the ISP’s in the US to block a user from using the .P2P or whatever we start using.

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  • D

    This is why engineers are gods!

  • Anonymous

    Funny how back in the 60s and 70s the government funded this little project named ARPANET. Now instead of funding the project, it’s instead taking on a life of its own (in certain ways) according to the desires of society.

    So glad that the early ISO protocol stuff never came into being — that would have made this impossible (or at the very least extremely annoying) :/. They (the US) might respond with nationwide censorship, but that would be interesting because then we would truly be no better than China.

    Than again we’re already censored, aren’t we :(…?

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  • James Kelley

    The focus should be on the server, and not the client.

    Allow people to run their own DNS servers, even locally. The server can poll other servers to catch .COM, etc.

    That way no client hooks are needed and servers can be shared by people who don’t know how/want to setup the new infrastructure.

  • Anonymous

    “invented by the people, run by the people, dependent only on the people.”

    Sounds like the definition of true Democracy…..

    Govt. “Of the People, For the people, and By the people”

    Which now a days US senates and Govt. seems to have forgotten.. and became..

    “Of the Corporates, For the corporates, and By the Corporates”

    OR U can replace it even more beautifully with “MAFIA-A”

  • 2cents

    As for piracy, remember the Grateful Dead…enough said. As for our freedoms, so long as the conversation stays on piracy we face an uphill battle. We’ve all been duped because this isn’t about piracy at all. Corporates and governments are self serving, inept, and corrupt but, not stupid. The real conversation is about freedom of speech and keeping the web open and free. “Fighting piracy”, is just a way to achieve the real agenda of control of the internet.

  • Gimmel Yod

    I suspect this will be bigger in China, etc…

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  • Joe T

    I am pumped… great idea!

    See if you can bundle the SW with Firefox, Ubuntu, etc.

    Get some deep penetration quickly.

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  • n057ad0ma5

    we are one,

    we are many,

    we are the net,

    one internet is not enough,

    revolution is evolution,

    necessity is mother of innovation,

    from the old, new is created,

    what is now, is not the future,

    the old is the past, controlled and constrained,

    the new is wireless, broadband, cloud, and …

    Anonymous will be there, we are always be here,

    we are one, we are many, we bring forth the new,

    internet technology is stagnant,

    let new offspring come forth and be free,

    long live the web, and all the internets 1.0, 2.0, 3.0,…

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  • Ninja

    I am delighted after reading this. Way to go US, MAFIAA. You just sparked another evolution on the system. Thank you.

    The more you tighten your grip, the more we’ll become fluid ;)

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  • Reason

    Yippppie! :o)

    Something decentralised. Something democratic.
    I’m so keen on seeing how this child will develop and evolve.

    Of course they will respond in the news with “threat to security”, wildcard for (copyright)theft / childporn / terrost / Nazi / what ever -websites …

    Bah. But they brought it on themselfes really, and now peaople are taking things in their hands. And we will decide as a mass what goes on there and what not, and not the corrupted, the powerfull or the ones with the big pockets (hopefully).

    Damn, that’s exciting!

  • Reason

    http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/212263/pirate_dns_could_hatch_a_lawless_darknet.html

    Tadaaaaaaa!

    See? The controlled “legal net” and the bad free darknet, with the threat of terrorists, pedophiles and other crimes (like homosexuals, lateral thinkers, open minds and liberals and critics) thriving like crazy in that dark, damp, greasy, sticky, lascivious, sinful, vicious NET of uncontrolled freedom, chaos and anarchy.
    For our safety, for the greater good, for the peace of mind, they must watch us, judge us. Make sure everything is fine and according to their (twisted) morals and believes.
    Caringly they offer the big brother who endows safety by his approval in his omnipotent wisdom.

    LOOOOOOOL

    Now really, you media, you. *g*
    It becomes sort of a running gag :)

  • onefish

    I say the way to get around IPv4 blocking is to migrate P2P to IPv6! Forget DNS on BitTorrent hacks and kludges, innovative as they maybe, it’s time for everyone to wake up to the reality of a different sort of Internet IPv6.

  • phil lospher

    what no government, no corporations, no business,

    no control, no structure, no revenue

    freedom, freewill, free for all,

    test, test, test,

    all for one, one for all,

    coming soon, all anon, all p2p, all trackers,

    one net, one day, one torrent, one swarm, one share,

    netizen’s progress is inevitable

    uploading, downloading, seeding, superseeding,

    everywhere and nowhere, by proxy, vpn, seedbox,…

    ?day, p2p exist’s, we are p2p, it exists on the net,

    sharing is inherent to our nature,

    to deny our right to share,

    well you decide….

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  • Oliver

    Excellent!

  • netizen

    Just a thought,

    Alternate *P2P model;

    User, ( be they content provider or content patron [consumer] ).

    1. selects appropriate client according to platform, os, browser,
    internet connection, and particular personal decision.
    a. locates, installs, configures if needed, for regular
    internet use or continues step 2.

    2. locates, installs, configures x = ( *P2P Portal software for *P2P Internet)
    a. *P2P software for use on P2P Internet
    b. under development
    c. ” ”
    d. ” ”
    &…. ” ”

    x – creates content, uploads same with pertinent branding info and donation request.
    even if ( x ) is not unloader, creator will receive direct rewards by establishing a
    brand and unique reputation.

    a. content creators should like this, you create, no middleman, reward based
    on consumer appreciation.

    z – interested consumer p2p’er, locates, downloads, evaluates, and decides whether or
    not to support by donating

    * fictional names

    Disclaimer; I am not naive, if i were to upload content (x ), i don’t expect to get
    rewarded, of course by the same reasoning. If i download, value and don’t support
    content ( x ). Well you know where this headed, scammers, thieves and what have you
    are everywhere. Even in suits an ties with corporate identity’s. Greed exists, but if you don’t trust, you might as well keep to yourself.

    Discuss; I don’t fear criticism, or i would have kept to myself! Of course it needs tweaking but if suits get their fingers, we are back at square all over again.

    P.S. Mom used tell us kids, if you don’t see people like yourself in book’s and film’s about the future they ain’t planning on people like you being there.

  • netizen

    @ #272

    Disclaimer; I am not naive, if i were to upload content (x ), i don’t expect to get
    rewarded, of course by the same reasoning. If i download, value and don’t support
    content ( x ). Well you know where this headed, scammers, thieves and what have you
    are everywhere. Even in suits an ties with corporate identity’s. Greed exists, but if
    you don’t trust, you might as well keep it to yourself.

    Discuss; I don’t fear criticism, or i would have kept this to myself! Of course it needs
    tweaking but if suits get their fingers in, we are back at square one all over again.

    P.S. Mom used tell us kids, if you don’t see people like yourself in book’s and film’s
    about the future, they ain’t planning on people like you being there.

  • anonymous

    as for people not being able to change net settings…. who the heck are they to demand awesomeness from the nets? lamers are lame for a reason, and i kind of think it should stay that way.

  • out there

    Hey, found this on “Gizmodo”‘ http://gizmodo.com

    Buy This Bankrupt Satellite to Share Internet With the Poor
    http://gizmodo.com/5704185/have-150000-buy-this-bankrupt-satellite-to-share-internet-with-the-poor

    i say we think of re-purposing for DOT-P2P Internet service.

    “Buy This Satellite”
    http://buythissatellite.org/

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  • FreeTheInternet

    In 1996, Jeff Barlow said:

    “A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

    Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I
    come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask
    you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have
    no sovereignty where we gather.

    We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one, so I address
    you with no greater authority than that with which liberty itself always
    speaks. I declare the global social space we are building to be naturally
    independent of the tyrannies you seek to impose on us. You have no moral
    right to rule us nor do you possess any methods of enforcement we have true
    reason to fear.”
    The rest is here: http://w2.eff.org/Censorship/Internet_censorship_bills/barlow_0296.declaration

  • -Q-

    HACK THE PLANET!

    this is a taste of things to come people, and i love it, P2P rules

    GIVE ‘EM HELL

  • OllerFord

    great idea to share all for free and kil adult industry as is today … and once all is free studios will stop producing and in the end all for free will be old outdated and crappy shit :( all for free means all STALLS … idiots

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  • Christian Huitema

    Good luck with the P2P DNS project.

    I am sure it can be done. In fact, we already did something like that with PNRP. It even ships in every copy of Windows.

    Actually, there are many things that can be learned from PNRP and applied to the P2P project. Security, scaling, decentralized name management.

    Way to go!

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  • Steven D. Hanes

    How ironic that America – a nation supposedly founded on the principles of freedom of speech and information – is nefariously undermining its foundation at every turn out of fear and stupid nationalism. And more ironic – perhaps moronic – is we take this crap because we have no real power to stop it. The truth will not set you free if you are not allowed to view it!

  • johnsmith

    didn’t the guys for supernova or novaking, make something like this? A p2p program with no central network, the program was fun while it lastested too bad everyone hacked it to get access.

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  • Gorillamo

    Heads up to any alert authors out there. Here’s an idea for a great twist on the “1984″ Big Brother-style tale!

    Unless of course, it’s already been written . . .

  • Matrix

    “I know you’re out there. I can feel you now. I know that you’re
    afraid… you’re afraid of us. You’re afraid of change. I don’t know the
    future. I didn’t come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came
    here to tell you how it’s going to begin. I’m going to hang up this
    phone, and then I’m going to show these people what you don’t want them
    to see. I’m going to show them a world without you. A world without
    rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where
    anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.”

  • David

    Please tell me how preventing the propagation of stolen information is censorship….I dare say you reap the reap of the benefits of a free society while having no clue as to its cost. Hope this solution of yours is next to be hammered.

    You and I are the government.

  • JJ

    Im sick and tired of these rich bastards complaining about sharing files…Im glad with this news though

  • bob in the USSA

    I hope it works – demonrats are commies and repugnicans are fascists. I hope the concept works and the net stays somewhat free.

  • and so

    :)

  • bob in the USSA

    truth is dangerous to the liars (politicians) and killers of locals in wars. so classify the truth and wrap a flag around you and scream “danger will robinson” as you kill the locals for their property and oil.

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  • Jason

    Freedom of Speech # http://213.251.145.96/

  • aussie guy

    Hi guys,

    I like the idea behind the p2p dns service and totally support wikileaks and the cause.

    I’ll signup as soon as the service is released whatever the price may be.

    cheers

    an aussie supporter

  • M. H3adr00m

    Breaking news,

    This just in!

    google keyword search results for “Dot-P2P Project”

    Get the Dot-P2P Client
    Coming soon – Dot-P2P client installers!
    http://get.dot-p2p.com/

  • Patrick Anderson

    Now we, the people, need to pool our resources to own the PHYSICAL layer so we can also ignore the ISP feudalists.

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  • Jose_X

    I put on hold a project to build a Linux Live distro that would use a peer to peer approach to integrate the desktop experience of “friends” and others given x or y rights. This was to include a privately “contact” and “delegation” mechanism that amounted to a basic dns. Another aspect was that data would be cloned on different trusted peer machines to enable some robustness without having to pay for a server farm or give up privacy rights to a major service provider.

    Open source enables people to add p2p support to almost any suite of apps or tasks that they want so that a group of like-minded individuals can more easily collaborate despite having very little money individually or desire to depend on a central untrusted hosting entity.

  • Elaine G 2011

    Sign me up. Wouldn’t something like this be great? We have some wonderful minds working around the clock and am thankful for that.

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