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BMG Demands $20 For Pirated Bruno Mars / Eminem Downloads

With the so-called “six strikes” scheme just around the corner in the United States, one could be forgiven for thinking that the major recording labels are satisfied with their anti-piracy progress. But one major management company appears to want to extract just that little bit more from alleged file-sharers. In emails being sent out to subscribers via their ISPs, account holders are being asked for settlements, not for many thousands of dollars, but just $20 cash.

Ok, so you’ve been caught downloading the latest hits from the Internet without placing money in the pockets of the record labels first, and – according to them – you need to be punished.

In a nightmare scenario you could follow in the footsteps of Jammie Thomas by getting dragged through the courts for years and ending up with a fine of $9,250 per song, but you probably don’t fancy that.

A much more friendly option lies in the “six-strikes” mechanism just around the corner in the US. This involves getting caught sharing files half a dozen times, being slapped on the wrist for just as many, only to face as-yet uncertain consequences including Internet throttling and temporary disconnections.

However, despite the huge effort by rightsholders to get “six strikes” passed, it’s now become apparent that at least one major music company isn’t limiting itself to the education-focused framework that the scheme aims to offer.

BMG Rights Management, home to artists such as David Bowie, Foo Fighters, Kings of Leon, Kylie Minogue, Will.i.am and the Sex Pistols, are now trying to generate revenue from possibly the tackiest “pay-up-or-else” scheme around today.

This is how it works. When ISPs in the United States receive infringement notices from rightsholders they are obliged by law to forward them to their customers. While many customers panic when they receive one, they are really quite benign. They basically tell an alleged file-sharer that they’ve been caught sharing a song or movie and they should stop immediately.

Usually that’s as far as it goes, but BMG are taking things a step further.

In order to communicate directly with an alleged infringer without even knowing who they are, BMG manipulate the obligation of the ISP to forward DMCA notices to their customers by adding additional “evidence”. In this section BMG provide hyperlinks to pages that allow alleged infringers to obtain “legal release from the copyright holder.”

Once clicked, account holders are transported to a settlement site operated by Digital Rights Corp where they are presented with details of the alleged infringement.

Internet account holders are then invited to pay the princely sum of $20 which “finally, unconditionally, irrevocably and absolutely releases, acquits, remises and forever discharges” them from future legal action on the infringement in question.

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TorrentFreak discussed this BMG project with lawyer Samuel Perkins of the Brody Hardoon Perkins & Kesten lawfirm. Perkins pointed us to the FAQ page on the settlement site where it states that even when an Internet account holder is innocent, he must take responsibility for the actions of others.

“BMG acknowledges that in many cases the subscriber will not be involved in any unlawful downloading, and will not even have any knowledge of it. I represent many such innocent subscribers,” Perkins begins.

“Under current US copyright laws, they would not be liable for copyright violations that occurred using their Internet subscription. BMG misrepresents subscribers’ copyright liability by stating that ‘most Internet service provider contracts state that the contract holder is responsible for actions taken on the Internet service.’ This statement is designed to convince subscribers that they are liable for a copyright violation if a neighbor or a family member secretly downloads copyrighted material,” Perkins explains.

“The subscriber is only liable for copyright infringement if he or she intentionally induc[es] or encourag[es] direct infringement, or infringes vicariously by profiting from direct infringement while declining to exercise a right to stop or limit it.

“By deliberately obscuring the distinction between the subscriber’s contract with the ISP and the subscriber’s liability under federal copyright law, BMG’s website attempts to trick innocent subscribers into settling copyright infringement cases when they in fact have no liability,” he concludes.

As previously reported, Digital Rights Corp are known to represent obscure and dead artists, but BMG have some big names on the books.

As can be seen from the screenshot above, the track in question is Lighters, a collaboration between Royce da 5’9″, Eminem, and R&B singer Bruno Mars. While BMG represents Mars, the track itself is on Interscope, an RIAA-affiliated label.

The music business and its maze of licensing is notoriously complex, but it seems very strange that a member label of the RIAA would allow itself to become associated with this kind of scheme while simultaneously pursuing the “six strikes” model.

The ISP that sent the notice shown above is Charter Communications, which incidentally is not participating in the strikes scheme. It will be interesting to see if more of these notices are sent in the weeks and months to come in parallel with the scheme, or whether this is an isolated project by BMG.

In the meantime these notices might bring in a few dollars but for reasons outlined in our earlier article, whether subscribers choose to pay is essentially up to them – it is unlikely that there will be consequences for simply ignoring them.

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  • Guest

    Here we go with the copyright trolls!

    • Bag0haze

      It seems that it’s possible to profit from piracy in this way upload a song or album to lets say TPB and charge 20 dollars per song.  That’s roughly 20 times more costly then Itunes and they don’t have to pay for hosting !  Seems like a good deal for BMG

      • Strawbear

        You forgot the cost of the stamps too.

        I presume they’re not doing this via email where it might look like spam.

        • Steell

           How else are they going to include hyperlinks?

        • Click It

          THIS IS NOT SPAM!  THIS IS DEVO! 

          When a problem comes along, 
          You must pay it. 

          For the downloaded song, 
          You must pay it. 

          If you did nothing wrong, 
          You must pay it. 

          Now PAY IT!  20 bucks! 
          PayPal Click – 20 bucks. 
          Click it … CLICK IT GOOD!

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbt30UnzRWw 

        • http://twitter.com/MarlynDThomas Marlyn D. Thomas

          The aspect that most shocks me about this is that they only ask for $20. That sure is far removed from from $9250 or more currently awarded by the Courts. http://Ace16.com

        • Qjo

          I think I would prefer to receive one of these notices as a ‘hard copy’ through the postal service for two reasons:

          1. E-mails can be so impersonal, they just don’t convey the sincerity of a letter,
          and
          2. I’m almost out of toilet paper, and I think I feel a big one coming on.

        • krozar

          many isps now send them directly via your browser. they shut off your internet connection until you verify your acct # and re-agree to the TOS.

        • Jason

          I noticed my isp trying to make me digitally sign something by redirecting my browser, so i changed my dns entries. No more redirects. Lol. 6weeks later i checked back and still there. Haha

        • Que

          It’s clearly not spam. Look at the message. It clearly states ‘this is not spam’.

        • Djxedxd

          Now thats just fookin funny right there.

      • http://twitter.com/RonanFerer RonanFerer

        Edwin said I’m dazzled that any body able to make $7364 in a few weeks on the network. have you seen this(Click on menu Home)

      • http://twitter.com/RonanFerer RonanFerer


        goo.gl/pao1d

    • JordanKratz

       Yup, and Fuck You BMG…………..I am so glad to support a true Boycott of all things MAFIAA.
      I will only allow local and Indie Art to open my wallet.All others can lick my dog’s ass.

    • Banana

      $2 would be legit, double of retail price. $20 is just a scandal!!!!!

    • Golberg

      No kidding!

      Whoever  give even a penny to these parasites is a big fat idiot with a capital I!

  • That_Anonymous_Coward

    Unfreaking believable.

  • BMG

    Sorry, but there’s profit to be had.

  • Lthrpuphlfx

    I say we make it the # 1 download worldwide!!!!!

    • YourMom

       Just downloaded and seeding now.

  • Anonymous

    how about a quick ‘fuck off’! will that suffice?

  • http://twitter.com/x_rus_x Vitaliy Anonymous

    intitle:”index.of” FTW

  • Violated0

    It is not such a surprise that some organizations would want to twist and warp the educational 6 strikes scheme into a money collection system. We cannot say yet though if these two schemes are related.

    The aspect that most shocks me about this is that they only ask for $20. That sure is far removed from from $9250 or more currently awarded by the Courts. It is almost like they worked out the value of the media then added on an admin fee which also says to me that many guilty people would not mind paying it.

    Right there is the big danger though as when society start accepting such small fines then it would not be long before they jack up the price. In other words this educational scheme would be replaced with a commercial pay after you download scheme.

    The best news here is that when people see $20 as more reasonable for the infringement in question then this highlights how misplaced the law is which gives better reason for a law change. Then to commercialize this scheme would more go to make the whole BT infringement system more legitimate and socially accepted.

    So both sides have reason to both like and hate this $20.

    • teenygozer

       If I remember the story of the Boston Tea Party properly, I believe the actual tax on tea shipped to the colonies was (purposely) very, very small, because it was thought the fact that it was such a small tax would keep the colonists from protesting against it.  And in fact, a lot of colonists just shrugged and indicated that they *were* going to pay the (very small) tax because there were so few amenities in everyday life in the colonies, and they wanted the tea, dammit, and it *was* such a small tax.  So that was the foot in the door, the thing that would have cemented the fact that England’s government *could* impose taxes on the colonies at will, and it was something they’d better get used to. But of course it wasn’t the tax itself, per se, that the rebels were protesting, it was the lack of governmental representation, the “tyranny.”  (Taxation without Representation is Tyranny!)  They had to stop their fellow colonists from thinking a certain way (acceptance) about taxes from England.

      I think this is a similar situation: BMG is staking a claim that they have the right to demand money in this situation, and the more people who cave in and pay it, because it’s such a small amount to avoid possible future annoyance, the stronger BMG’s claims will be for their right to impose monetary punishments.  It gets people used to thinking a certain way about property and music.

      • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

        Very important post:  It does what real insight should always do.  It tells us the future.

      • Dondilly

        Another similarity to the history of American Independence and taxation the MAFIAA.

        Knowing of the movement towards independence, the british gov applied a high tax on the parchment (cloth based paper) used to record legislation and legal documents. In an attempt to slow the colonists drawing up their own laws.

        This is akin to the MAFIAA pushing (and getting in some countries) taxes on blank media This wasn’t just about piracy as they claimed as in truth the existing monopoly thanks to these taxes profited  from non infringing uses including artists recordings not under the monopoly’s control.

      • Based God

         http://i.imgur.com/Evdwm.gif

  • Riowantsabiscuit

    Dear Sir and/or Madam,

    Get stuffed.

    Sincerely

    The Millions of downloaders who could just rip it off YouTube if they wanted or had the knowhow.

    • Gupta

      If a person doesn’t know how to rip music or videos in the original quality they were uploaded on to youtube, they don’t deserve to have the files. It takes all of .00000023 seconds to find and download YoutubeHD video Ripper (great free app) and any of 45,000 browser based youtube music file rippers.

      I am well on my way to downloading and hoarding every single video and music track ever uploaded to youtube. I have spent over  9000 dollars on a rotating system of external hard drives, many of which I have mailed to myself, for extra safekeeping.

      • Pelham123

        I keep my rotating system of external hard drives in a clean room of a former RAM chip fab I purchased for this purpose.

  • Freedom Of Speech

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/09/dutch-court-rules-linking-to-photos-is-copyright-infringement/

    Dutch court rules linking to photos is copyright infringement
    Website faces $36,000 fine for linking to nude pictures of reality star.

    • Freedom Of Speech

      What’s happening to Netherlands?!? “Coffee shops” (actually, marijuana bars) under attack, and now this! Are the Dutch people now trying to get rid of their legendary coolness and turn themselves into uptight assholes?

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      That Dutch court needs a severe wake-up call on this subject. Maybe when they appeal and this is smacked down, that court will have some of it’s judges removed for stupidity.

    • Guest

      She is fucking ugly anyway.

      • Gupta

        lol she look like a dog’s breakfast,

  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    One again: IP address not equal to specific person. If I got one of these letters, it would go in the circular file as soon as I realized what it was.

    • Oplease !

      $20 for admission of guilt ?? That sounds smart ….smoking the big bong lol

  • 876edfgh

    From the article: “They basically tell an alleged file-sharer that they’ve been caught sharing a song or movie and they should stop immediately.”

    Sorry, but this is wrong. Infringement notices claim someone using your IP address did some infringing. The courts are consistently ruling that you, personally, are not responsible for this.

  • Qwe

    is hotfile back ? 

  • Guest

    Question.

    If I download a track that I already own, on a CD, that is okay right?

    So if I am “accused” of downloading an mp3, how do they know if I already have a “licence” for this file?

    So I get a threat (well, a more substantial one)… I go out and buy the CD(s)…  “here, I already own it!”. Winner?

    • Say Baa

      If I download a track that I already own, on a CD, that is okay right?

      No, they stripped you of that ability a long time ago.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        Actually, some judges have said that IS legal and the copyright authorities cannot say jack about it.

        • Guest

          “Actually, some judges have said that IS legal and the copyright authorities cannot say jack about it.”

          Do you have a link?

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Google it, Guest: Judges, music downloading, physical copy, download digital copy.

          Not that hard to find. Of course, those judges were state judges in America and lower-court judges overseas so…… take it as you will.

        • OccamsKatana

          Google it, Guest: Judges, music downloading, physical copy, download digital copy.

          Not that hard to find. Of course, those judges were state judges in
          America and lower-court judges overseas so…… take it as you will.

          Nah Christopher, I think the onus is on you to provide the link to back up your ‘facts’. Especially when someone asks you to provide it. I still can’t find any info on magnetic volatility of hard drives.

  • Guest

    I guess that this firm is relying on people being stupid and not being legally aware that you cannot be held responsible for the actions of other people etc. to get people to hand over money. Why demand extorting 100′s of dollars when you can just get people (who are stupid enough) to hand over 20 dollars and it will all go away. This is just another blackmail letter pay up or go to court. When someone hands over 20 dollars then they have been hooked and the firm will send another letter stating that they have downloaded infringement and to pay up 50 dollars or be taken to court and as they have already paid 20 dollars they will use this as evidence of previous infringement. Then the firm will send out another letter asking for more money and keeps upping the amount.

  • Guest324

    If I get one these warnings. I would simply ignore it. A IP address is not sufficient evidence. As the Federal Judge Gary Brown stated a IP address doesn’t ID specific individuals. Good luck BMG.

  • Bubanee

    yeah… i uploaded a few of those artists, i expect to be paid as well… 
    Yeah right! 
    I’ve always said uploading is promotion where one does not get paid so the downloader shouldn’t fork out any cash really. 
    6 strikes my ass… 

  • Boxxy

    Quite glad I don’t like any of this popular chart music tbh.

    • ScrewEwe2

      What if Mastershake downloads this crap without your knowledge and you get one of these extortion letter? 

    • Gupta

      I only like Mozart and such. Did you know that Harry Fox, Inc. automatically sends DMCA notices to youtube claiming that they “own” the publishing rights to all of Mozart’s music? Hint- they don’t. Nobody does, not even Mrs. Mozart, anymore.

  • The_seventh_guest

    I’ve been wondering if there’s some kimd of cheap way to regularize… This might be the start, perhaps. But since the copyright holders did not spend a dime in distrbution and availability, i believe the price to regularize should be very low, as low as 1 dllr per movie 2 for each tv season and 5 cents per song or 10 cents per album

  • Gae

    If only they would stop trying to trick people into paying when they are not responsible for the infringement then I may have approved of this.
    I have no problem with pirates that get caught to be asked for a reasonable payment amount covering basic admin costs and the retail price of the media they pirated.

    However they have to go the extra step and try to deceive people into paying for something they have no reason to pay for along with threats of possible $150000 fines and internet disconnections. It is then no longer about recovering any loss, it is about a campaign of spreading fear and that is unacceptable.

  • Wck1337

    They sent me this 1mo ago… Uhm wut if i dont pay??? I dl’d lughters, i doubled up surprised i didnt get 40$ notice tbh..

  • Dnyt

    This is what I will response to this situation: 

    Call Charter Communications customer service discuss about the email and then…Opss…  I forgot to secure my Wi-Fi connection, can you cancel my internet subscription pleaseee…? Oh, btw… do you have Comcast toll free number?

  • Guest

    Is this supposed to be what they pass off as Kickstarter or crowdfunding – threaten many people with small amounts and hope that they’ll pay up?

    No dice. Twenty dollars or twenty thousand, labels have long since lost any goodwill people might have had for them.

  • PirateSoldier

    I’m paying jack to these clowns. VPN come try get me mofos

  • The_Strawbear

    I’m wondering whether this lessening of penalty is a sign that over all, media outfits are actually realising their previous demands are unreasonable and this is an indication that they’re on the back foot.

    Either way, I can’t see this working too well with any luck. I wouldn’t even respond to any notice like that, no matter how official looking, be it via email or snail mail, it reeks of a spam scam, out fishing for payment details or cheques thru the mail.

    I wonder how many fraudsters are sending out notices like that already. I mean fraudsters who don’t own labels, obviously…

  • Heisenberg7

    Oh how I love my proxy. Go die in a fucking hole you copyright trolls.

  • Manny

    We have said for quite a while now that the labels need to come up with a new business model, and this is it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    It is interesting that the lawyers who drafted the letter have sidestepped a malpractice suit against them by pointing account holders to a rights group to process the transaction and having the FAQ there that misrepresents (lies) about account holder liabilities.

    Had they attached it to the letter/email directly, they could have ben done for malpractice and gone the same way as crossley and the othercowboys.

    While they have no doubt drafted the lies on the site, they have been smart enough to detach themselves from it sufficiently to claim plausable deniability if it came to light in court.

    Then again. with lies like that, they are unlikely to bring a non payment case to court as the truth would out.

    • Guest

      If they have indeed lied on the FAQ’s about responsibility then surely someone who receives the letter could still take them to court and challenge the lies. The firm can either then say it was a mistake and then correct the FAQ’s and to remove the lies in question or the firm if they insist that the FAQ’s is correct could fight in court. Lets see if the firm either shuts up and removes the lies or fights. Should the firm claim plausable deniability and say that the lies were just a simple mistake and error etc. to get out of accountability then they surely the court will get them to change the lies or remove them from the FAQ’s.

  • Guest

    Jesus. So close to being halfway reasonable, and then they had to be a bunch of lying cunts. Nice work, BMG.

  • Dirty Needs

    Check your (VPN) connection here … 
    http://www.pobralem.pl/ 

    The “dirtier” the better. 
    I use a “shared” VPN and my public IP changes every 30-minutes. 
    My public IP is DIRTY DIRTY DIRTY!  This is good! 

    My real (ISP) IP is VIRGIN clean.  But my shared public IP is DIRTY! 
    I LIKE IT!  I am rubbing dirty dirt all over my encrypted packets. 

    My VPN IP is a swarm connecting to a swarm connecting to a swarm. 
    (Connecting to TF, UN and TPB). 

    DIRTY DIRTY DIRTY! 

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  • LittleMiss1

    Dont they kinda suck anyway… Are they even worth downloading?

    • prinny

      Only if you’re a pleb who can’t handle the underground.

  • Neotoasty

    No song, especially from those two artists. Are worth $20 to me.

    • Guest

       And that is fine. Just don’t buy the shit or download it. Enjoy the stuff you like!

  • foff

    Plain and simple fucking extortion.

    • xpmule

       yup
      straight up evil behavior because your business is failing.
      I won’t buy nothing from scum that does stuff like this ever.
      they deserve to go out of business !
      They pull this moral high ground routine all the while they
      perform the same activities as the Mafia, Hells Angels, org crime..

      Lets not forget if someone is being punished for a digital download
      then why are they being asked to pay the price of printed physical media ?
      I’ve often seen albums for 10$ for new releases on various sites.

      These thieves trying to steal from file sharers are scum
      they have no right trying to make money off of someone that probably
      would not have bought the item in the first place and then charge them
      double what the cost is.

      Must be nice to have a business model where you can act like a criminal
      and breaks laws as you want and / or lobby for new ones to increase
      your profits. I bet a lot of other industries would love to be in that position lol
      And to top it off their “The Good Guys” in all this fighting for the poor exploited artists.

      Reminds me of the union job a quit a while back. they took init fee’s for a few months and monthly dues every 2 weeks which amounted to 1 hours pay of every 8 i worked. And i bet their small staff load etc must generate one MASSIVE revenue stream from all the chapters and stores across my country.. must be one BIG cash cash cow.

  • Ophelia Millais

    Perkins didn’t point it out, so I will…Whether an “offer for upload” constitutes copyright infringement is not spelled out in U.S. copyright law, and has not yet been decided one way or the other by the courts. It might legally be infringement, it might not.

    If the copyright owner has evidence you uploaded or downloaded, then you are certainly on the hook for it; you certainly couldn’t prevail at trial. But if they only have evidence you “offered to upload” (“made available” is the more common term), then you have to decide what’s more worthwhile: paying the settlement to make it go away, or to finding and paying a lawyer to help you litigate (which would involve, if you lose, paying the other side’s attorney’s fees, not just damages).

    The problem here is that they have very craftily worded their letter such that they don’t provide any evidence at all. What exactly do they have evidence you did—download, upload, or offer for upload? They’re not saying; they’re only going so far as to say your account was used to do one or more of those things. “Send us money, because your account was used to (a) do something definitely illegal, or (b) do something maybe illegal.” It’s impressively clever and evil of them to be so deliberately vague about it.

    Question for the lawyers: In this situation, do you have a right to see the evidence against you, without entering into litigation?

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    BMG is not the main threat here. 

    If you’re looking for the knife capable of gifting heads to Content Distributors, it’s not in the hands of NBC or ABC or Disney or EMI or Lionsgate or Warner Brothers or any of the Porn Producers.  That knife is in the hands of the five national ISP’s, who control the telecommunication channels that deliver content to 75% of American Households. 

    In fact, the SIX STRIKES regime is a back door done deal between these five ISPs and Content Distributers on the presumption that, if regulators, legislatures, judiciaries, and, indeed, customers, can be compelled or persuaded to look the other way, substantially the complete national media market (essentially ALL American consumers of Intellectual Property) can be channelled and controlled within the ISP’s Commercial TOSs and compelled to accept a structured internet distribution regime in which the monopoly status and benefits of Copyright Protected intellectual Property distributers are extended to ComCast, Verizon, etc.,etc. 

    Let’s hope that when this shit hits the fan, it will stink across every nook and cranny of the American heartland; and, that it winds its stinky path into every appellate court in the Country; and. into every Congressman’s and Senator’s ante chamber.  Let’s hope that American people can be told in time exactly whats going on; and, that this time, they get angry enough to forget nothing and forgive no one even remotely associated with these disgraces. 

    This is in every sense a Fascist Knife at the heart of the American Democracy; and, anyone who has said to himself, as I have said to myself, “IT just can’t be true!!” should step back for one long calm premeditative second and ask himself in lingering detail, “What exactly was in PIPA?”, “How exactly would SOPA have affected the constitutional rights to privacy and protections against arbitrary seizures of Americans?”, “How would CISPA have rechartered the NSA and CIA to operate domesticly against the Constitutional Rights of all Americans in the interest of Copyright enforcement?”, “How would ACTA and TPP have foreordained legislative revisions to impose reduced Constitutional protections on individual citizens in respect to copyright enforcement?” 

    Six Strikes is not happening in isolation!  It is merely one link in a long chain. 

    A very long chain that has been incompletely and incompetently wrapped around our necks. 

    In this context, the Hollywood Oligopolists are what Russian strategic war theory used to call “the far enemy”. 

    It is the ISPs that with Six Strikes are groping for our hearts. 

  • ScrewEwe2

    There’s no damn way I would pay and fuck off is exactly what I’d say. BMG can suck my VPN.

    Screw Bruno Mars, Royce da 59 and Marshall Mathers the Turd. Eminem can go play in heavy traffic on 8 Mile Road, and get run over by Kid Rock for all I care. 

  • Guest

    What happens if their site is getting DDoS’ed so you can’t pay your settlement?

  • krozar

    A scam for the clueless parents of teens. Sadly it will work well for BMG.

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      Might go realy badly for BMG and turn into a complete wipe out for the ISPs. 

      Why? 

      Because the American People are not stupid; merely overextended and distracted.  The American elite understands that three hundred million deluded people, whose core fantasy is that they are democratic citizens civily protected under a system of invoilable constitutional rights, might be fundamentally ungovernable by sheer coercion. 

      Those clueless parents might shell out the first twenty bucks as an annoyance; but, they’ll be annoyed enough to start asking questions.  By the time BMG comes to claims the house, they’ll have a clue and a hatchet. 

  • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

    A lot posters here are saying this is an email or letter. What a lot of ISPs are doing now is disabling Internet access and redirecting the customer to a page saying that the connection has been disabled due to copyright infringement. The customer then has to verify account information such as the account # and last 4 of social or other form of verification. Then they are sent to the next page which is what will show this letter. Then the customer has to admit to guilt and claim they’ll never do it again to have service reinstated. 

    Sometimes there’s even a delay of a minute or 2 before the customer can admit guilt and have services reinstated as a manner to get them to read this trash. 

    For us, we know this bullshit. But to a typical Conservative American; this will scare the living fuck out of them.

    • Ophelia Millais

      If an ISP disables your access upon mere accusation of infringement by a third party, then that ISP does not deserve your business. I know it sucks to have to switch ISPs and go from cable to DSL or wireless, but paying these ransoms does nothing but encourage them to continue down this road.

      • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

        All of them here do the same thing. My fault for being lazy and detected.

  • ofproto

    Luckily I don’t listen to Eminem or Bruno Mars.

  • Tgsd

    Well another attempt to rinse the innocent of hard earned cash although it does state that if you pay the $20 fine that it unconditionally relequishes you for any further legal action? Well that to me says that if you are caught downloading and uploading the file in question then once you pay the fine your ok and good to keep seeding that file ! Hell you could pass it round and when everyone else who gets caught downloading that file from the guy who paid $20 they just point the finger back to him and then theres naff all they can do as they have already stated in writing that no further action will be taken ? Ill donate $ to whoever has been caught as long as i can copy the file :-) as a backup obviously for the origional owner as he likes to keep a backup on several hdd in different computers

    • krozar

      no further action regarding that incident.

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  • Spike

    PLus if you pay I think you are admitting guilt so this is more likely a set up for a much larger fine lol. Damn they are good.

    • Ophelia Millais

      The article says the site where you pay the fine says that paying the fine “finally, unconditionally, irrevocably and absolutely releases, acquits, remises and forever discharges” you from future legal action on the infringement in question.

      However, you’re absolutely right…the infringement is just one event (on a certain day, you were observed to have infringed work X). They could easily be sitting on evidence relating to the same work being infringed on many other days. Each of those could be said to be a repeat violation, and they’ll fine you more and more each time, you can be sure. One work shared on 6 days, or 6 works shared on one day…there’s your 6 strikes right there.

      • Spike

         A judge will see that you have a history of guilt on copyright and this history will be used against you on all the ones that come after it.

      • Guest

        Does that even constitute as a legal document? Let’s not forget the label’s tactics in court – assuming that they even have someone to bring to court and they fail miserably to prove anything substantial beyond the IP address, they fight tooth and nail to get the suit dismissed without prejudice so they can fight the case at a later date.

        I’d trust BMG as far as I can throw them, with all my limbs chopped off and my eyes gouged out.

  • Riii

    This is still torrent/p2p downloads being punished not mediafire/direct downloads, right?

  • Anoynmousgoat

    sends a picture of grover with his middle finger up saying “I found this in my pocket, its for you” instead of $20.

  • TigWow

    lol, like anyone cares what BMG demands lol, too funny.
    AnonWays.tk

  • Guest

    I’d like to see the “powers that be” make attempts to protect the little guy’s job like wal-mart stock boys all the way to semi-professional tech people that are constantly being outsourced. Ohh well, the masses have always been dumb anyways.

    And this is a good reasonable settlement I believe. Wouldn’t all you internet-tough-guys rather deal with a $20 fine as opposed $5000 legal battle you know you’ll lose anyways? This $20 fine is more than reasonable even, it’s just like paying for the material you got illegally anyways. So I don’t see a problem here. Neither should you!

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      Yeah!  The problem is that instead of getting 250 thousand people to pay 20 bucks on the basis of unlitigated allegations, they’re going to get 10 million innocents suing all the way to the Supreme Court for tripple damages.

  • Distorted

    best to get vpn at least have some kinda protection in place. Does anyone known the story that was post on TF about list of VPN’s to chose from to stay hidden was ever updated . 

  • tonyj

    Eminem sucks dude!
    Shit! I’ll pay $20 just to keep him off the internet.

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    That’s Strange I Got This Letter In My Email. And I Even Called Them Up. I Got 2 Of These Letters.

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    The Guy On The Phone Told Me That I Should Still Pay For It Because It’s My Internet And I Am In Charge For All Actions.

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