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BREIN and Usenet Portal Face Off In Court Over Legality

The long-running battle between anti-piracy group BREIN and a Usenet community reached a Dutch court room this week. For their part, the FTD newsgroup portal wants the courts to issue a declaration that they operate legally. On the other hand, BREIN insists that publishing the locations of copyright material is illegal and tantamount to directly publishing it. On that basis BREIN is demanding a permanent injunction against FTD’s operations.

In the Court of Haarlem on Monday, Dutch anti-piracy group BREIN met with the operators of Usenet community FTD for the hearing of their long-standing copyright dispute.

According to BREIN, FTD is a service which allows users to easily but illegally download movies, TV shows and music. FTD see themselves differently and state that they only allow their members to point out where such content might be found on Usenet.

A statement sent to TorrentFreak by FTD lawyer Arnoud Engelfriet of Ictrecht law firm noted that the four hour long hearing took place in the largest court room available but generated enough interest to still become crowded.

Lawyer Gijsbert Brunt began by outlining how FTD operates. He argued that FTD allows users to report or ‘spot’ where material may be found on Usenet, but does nothing more than this, adding that FTD does not upload any content to users, nor does it offer users any downloads.

Brunt further argued that FTD’s service is not even necessary to download content from Usenet and is not, as BREIN claims, an “entertainment shopping” service from where movies can be downloaded.

As part of their argument, BREIN referred to an earlier legal battle between FTD and the movie studio, Eyeworks.

In that case, a court ruled that by allowing the publication of ‘spots’ detailing the location of an unauthorized movie stored on Usenet, FTD effectively became the publisher of that movie as if they had actually hosted it on their own servers.

“The court in The Hague already determined that FTD provided access to unauthorized copies of a Dutch movie,” BREIN chief Tim Kuik told TorrentFreak in a statement.

“FTD is like a downloadshop providing access keys to unauthorized content. Therefore BREIN agrees with the court in The Hague that deemed FTD is making available without permission of the right holder and therefore directly infringing copyright itself even though the content itself is stored and downloaded from Usenet.”

Coincidentally, the appeal of that particular decision will be heard this week in The Hague. Needless to say, the outcome could prove of particular relevance to this case.

BREIN argued in court Monday that FTD is a portal which “organizes and promotes” illicit content making it easy for users to download it from Usenet. The anti-piracy group said that this “unlocking” of newsgroup content by FTD amounts to them publishing it and asked the judge to consider that in the light of the Eyeworks ruling, not only is FTD illegal but also a direct infringer of copyright.

Even if the Court does not eventually consider FTD to be a direct infringer, BREIN says that FTD still acts in a similar manner to other sites who have previously lost lawsuits in The Netherlands including Zoekmp3, ShareConnector, Mininova and The Pirate Bay. The anti-piracy group argued that all of these sites illegally used the availability of copyright content as a business model.

“In previous cases courts ruled that comparable business models were acting unlawful without saying the activity amounted to direct infringement,” Kuik told us yesterday.

“The point is that such business models structurally make use of the availability of unauthorized content. Even if it is not deemed infringement itself, it still is unlawful,” he added.

In an apparent reference to the earlier “filtering” rulings handed down against both Mininova and The Pirate Bay, BREIN argued in court that FTD should also have to check (filter/moderate) the potential copyright status of material before allowing the publication of their Usenet locations.

BREIN said that moderation of ‘spots’ does take place on the FTD service, but only on quality grounds, never due to copyright concerns.

Countering, FTD insist that since it is legal to download copyrighted material in The Netherlands, they have no duty to remove such ‘spots’. BREIN, however, see things differently and believe that commercial use of illicit material constitutes an infringement of copyright.

Lawyer Gijsbert Brunt reiterated that FTD is not responsible for the material uploaded to, or downloaded from, Usenet.

The Court’s decision is due to be handed down on or soon after 7th November 2010.

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  • mop

    Operation Payback hasn’t hit BREIN yet, has it?

  • Okay

    FTD rocks! Don’t touch my usenet!!

  • surfer

    this is still an attempt to invent secondary infringement, because it’s just to haaaaaarrrrrdddd to prosecute the actual infringer.

    stw

  • www.Searchr.Us

    Thanks for this mate …..

    http://www.Searchr.Us

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  • logical

    The question that FTD needs to ask BREIN is: “If we stopped ‘pointing out’ where to find stuff on Usenet, would people still be able to download it?” The obvious answer is yes, so the conclusion HAS to be that FTD are not responsible for violating copyright…

  • mouse

    seems only a matter of time mop

  • anonymous

    I hope we dont attack the BREIN website .
    It is running on a seperate webserver
    BREIN said earlier `let them shoot at our website `
    No i hope PBIAB wil sellect another target in the Netherlands like

    http://www.sena.nl/ !
    http://www.nvpi.nl/
    http://www.bumastemra.nl !
    http://www.eyeworks.tv the company that sued FTD earlier

    !this a good one cuz it will cost them money

  • GrX

    isn’t that all google and other major search engines is doing????

    search term “blah”

    results for “blah” found

    usenet .a.b.warez such file exists.

    and the difference would be?

  • Anonymous

    Brein should consider changing their name to “Sh1t For Breins”.
    Paid parasites/assclowns who want to censor anything and everything, that’s what they are.

    According to them, Linking is illegal, even if you don’t host material at all.

    LMFAO

  • Whatever

    @5 logical
    Its better than that, it proves they don’t have the “key” to usenet.

    Actually why would FTD need to prove they are not like a download shop ? Why is BREIN not required to prove what they claim (strange how lies are accepted in civil law).

  • jimmy bean

    @#7
    the difference is Google has loads of money to fight these types of allegations. there is no way on earth that any of the entertainment industries or ‘satellite’ groups will dare to take on such a giant corporation! they know they would lose and a precedent be set!

  • Reggit

    Torrentfreak :- “…sites who have previously lost lawsuits in The Netherlands including Zoekmp3, ShareConnector, Mininova and The Pirate Bay.”

    I think to myself :- “ooo, Shareconnector? Piratebay? They sound interesting, i think ill check those sites out!” OMG – take torrentfreak to court for acting “unlawfully” =/
    Your not allowed to publish news because BREIN says so!

    This is completley against freedom of speech and is only one step away from banning words! (time to start burning HTML and Java books perhaps!?!?) The guys from BREIN need to be put into ‘re-education camps’, the only reason this case is even being heard is because of technologically illiterate people in the judicial system.

    Grrrrr!

  • anon
  • Drag0nflamez

    Operation Payback should hit BREIN & EyeWorks. And then BREIN should be DDOSed for real – instead of the fake TPB ddos.

  • Sammy

    And what’s the point of taking a site down by Ddos ?!!

  • jovialau

    Both google and facebook were set up and financed by the American government.Don`t you think they have some influence?

  • jovialau

    Sorry….I meant @10

  • ahem

    Usenet always qualifies for dmca safe harbor exemption – Its been brought to court many times over the last 30 years and common law ruled on it several times. All brein is doing is bringing unnecessary attention to themselves and the usenet service, they’re wasting time and money on problems that can be more appropriately addressed. Good chance that 10% of all people reading this article still dont know about usenet, while a few of them will inquire more information about it.

  • none

    Western Digital just released their new 3tb drives in usb-3 speeds. Seriously brein, its time to just throw in the towel.

  • Anonymous

    @ 15
    The point is media attention. Bringing this nonsense to people’s attention. Blocking the door to their building.

    What BREIN is doing it retarded. If a news article has copyright by the person who wrote it. You will not be allowed to link to it. Same goes with copyrighted images and video. You linked to my youtube video, now you owe me €200,-.

    This is bad for copyrighted material because no one will want to link to the work of real artists anymore for fear of being prosecuted. Artists that got popular by openly sharing material. The ones that got popular by the people and not by a media team and millions of dollars.

    The underprivileged wont be able to download their college books anymore because they are copyrighted. And you can’t link to them.

    You can buy them second hand. But you cant download a scanned version.

    They play such a dirty game. And i can’t believe government organs. Like the justice department and the EU government ( to which the Dutch voted NO but the government agreed anyway ) let themselves be used like this.

  • Anonymous

    Hah.

    As I just said in another article, start demanding that Google be sued. It’s guilty of the exact same “crimes” as FTD is, so it should be hauled into court by BREIN, too.

    Write your political representatives. Write BREIN. DEMAND. I’m serious.

    You’ll see these abusive copyright laws and court rulings get reformed and overturned so fast it’s not even funny as Google’s lawyers shred them to bits(pun intended).

  • Anonymous

    Thanks BREIN I didn’t know what usenet was, so I guess I’ll go check it out. Seriously, all I use is my private torrent site and TPB. I know I guess I’m under a rock what evs.

  • The United Hackers Association

    example why BREIN is wrong and canada got it right.

    A) you see that crack house over there officer there dealing guns and weapons too….
    B) because you published that info to the officer your as guilty now as the bad people….JAIL

    In Canada the freedom we have is as such:
    YOU visit a infringing link its your business not anyone elses.
    Posting them also is not illegal.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t use Usenet but it is or used to be the original source of a lot of the content.

    The funny thing is my isp acts like the internet police and hands over torrent info on a regular basis so I just get everything from data lockers and google is my main search engine.

    So the copyright police can attack torrent sites, Usenet portals or whatever but in the end google works as good as any and they have never tried to force google to censor the search results.

    I wonder what google will do when they try to get google to censor all search results for links to infringing data. Is that even technically possible?

    These copyright people are pissing in the wind. They need to grow brains and realize not every copy can be monetized have they ever heard of libraries. It seems they refuse to accept the fact that the internet is a virtual library.

    If you want a perfect pristine copy of something you buy it, if you don’t care and you just want to watch or read it you download it, it is that simple. A download in no way equals a sale. So F off all you pro copyright morons.

  • Anonymous

    It would save a lot of time if every copy of Windows came with LOIC already installed – because just about everyone is going to need it.

    This really is armageddon – the entire internet versus fascist corporations and their friends in government.

    Anonymous had today toppled the website of a Spanish government department – I can see a lot more of that sort of thing coming.

    Governments govern by the consent of the people; when the people remove their consent, the government must respond or face revolution.

    I honestly think this is the start of something huge – an internet revolution. Governments and corporations will no longer be able to use the internet to communicate or do business.

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  • The fact that I can show you where to pick up a prostitute doesn’t make me a pimp.

  • This is starting to become a revolution for the internet.
    They are trying to take control and it is time we stopped them.

    People need to rise up and become anonymous.

    We are all in this. spread the word, the fight for control is coming and we will win.

  • Anonymous

    ^^according to Brein logic, you’re a pimp tho LOL

  • Anonymous

    @23, While I don’t think its wrong, the fbi & the Royal mail have prosecuted several people for linking to or pointing out “other” material.

    “The British Royal mail has actually prosecuted whistleblowers under the official secrets act, who tried to tell of the huge amounts or porn coming through the British mail system.” http://www.illuminatiarchives.org/t-stokes/operation-ore/

    The fbi has done the same but I don’t have the reference atm as its lost in bookmarks on my pc.

  • Kermit The Toad

    @15 Hit them in the wallet by DOSsing their website. That’ll get their attention.

    By the way, Google doesn’t smooch BRIEN’s star hole, BRIEN smooches Google’s.

  • Tw@t

    Hey BREIN – Why don’t you try and take Google to court for “publishing the locations of copyright material is illegal and tantamount to directly publishing it” and see how you get on…

  • Anonymous

    Brein feels safe behind their DDoS protect. But actually i would feel safer having them DDoS me for a couple of days. I have seen it too many times, if anonymous cant show they are displeased the easy way they will show do it the hard way.

    Look at the cat lady in England who threw a cat in a trash bin… She had to go in to witness protection and be relocated. Or the acs-law owner who saw his life ruined and bankrupted. I think terror is the correct word.

    My prayers go out to the person who actually puts an end to open information and freedom online. TPB trial is going on and no targets in Sweden have been hit yet. Looks to me that this all target practice and recruitment.

    I feel a war coming…

  • Freedom

    @12 Agreed!

    For anyone interested, check out Ray Bradbury’s novel “Fahrenheit 451″; the book gives insight on how the world can turn out if books are banned and burned, and those that are caught reading them are sent to mental institutions (as the minimum charge for offense).

    Dont take your liberties for granted! Like they say, “you wont know what you have, til you have lost it”.

  • Alex

    Okay, we now have to officially sue google, yeah.

    http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=filetype%3Atorrent+Inception&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=c22930e07e818393

    Seriously it’s not hard to find the things you need. Linking isn’t illegal.

  • Turbis

    Funny thing is if it’s illegal to link to pirated material or sites then newspapers reporting on thepiratebay.org are doing illegal activities by telling people what the sites name is :D

  • Ninja

    Operation Payback is lurking behind you BREIN.

    They are asking for it with passion ;)

  • mshenrick

    so how come google havn’t been sued yet?

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  • Anonymous

    Head over to 4Chan and help out their noble cause:

    Freeing the world from the oppressors like BREIN, RIAA and others.

    First install Java LOIC http://encyclopediadramatica.com/LOIC — a weapon with which to fight.

    This is not a DRILL and it is not a GAME; it’s a real cause, and a juste one (freedom of information for all)

  • FIBER0PTIC

    History: I own/owned Swinger/Social Clubs & Escort services, we can pay commissions or pay for leads. However in Las Vegas, NV. cab drivers are not allowed commissions for taking clients to any Strip Club. Drivers need tips to cover gas & radio fee’s. No tips also creates a lower quality driver.

    Point is: both promote adult entertainment, why is one a target and the other let free to self govern themselves?

    Today: Drivers can be tipped out by anyone or anyplace.

    ——
    Judge ruled that “Hyperlinks” are freedom of expression and protected under the 1st.

    I am Owner/Webmaster a few thousand Adult domains, the linking to content should be your right just as news sources. To offer information on where “anything” is should be legal,… if nothing else be called a “whistle-blowing” site and thanked by the movie/music industry for giving them the source, thus saving them money & resources finding copyright material.

    We are all just reporting the news, Usenet, Google, TPB/Torrent, Etc… Portal/Link sites are just easy targets because they can not locate a valid source.

    Thank EFF & Craigslist for the Adult Services legal battle thus far, now Twitter, Facebook, & other social networks need to speak up.

    Same people, same types of censorship, If you don’t want your kids to watch porn on HBO, then as a parent don’t order HBO each month. You can’t regulate HBO’s content. Just like Google/Usenet.

    TorentFreak, a fast Thank you for giving everyone a voice in a well respected public access area. Friends in the ACLU read sections of TF daily.

  • PiSexian

    In a nice twist, the defense lawyers showed the court that they could easily use add-ons in Firefox and turn the BREIN website into a download search-engine complete with NZB buttons.

    They showed that FTD did not make those buttons but that it was a simple add-on for the Firefox webbrowser. Tim Kuijk was furious when he saw the alteration taking place before his eyes ;-)

    I’m a http://www.pisexy.org/ user btw, small private tracker site.

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  • Dutch

    This showed that FTD did not make those buttons but that it was a simple add-on for the Firefox webbrowser.

    http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9956/gsbrein.jpg

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