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Camcorder Piracy Epidemic Forces Studios To Delay Screenings

While the rest of the world enjoys the latest theatrical releases, for the foreseeable future the Hungarian public will be subjected to a Hollywood-enforced time delay and a ban on midnight screenings. The action is in response to the discovery that a string of cammed blockbusters turning up on the Internet originated from cinemas in Hungary.

While all kinds of piracy are a thorn in the side of Hollywood, when illicit movies appear on the Internet at the same time as theatrical releases, this particularly draws the ire of studios.

Over the past decade an awful lot of money has been spent trying to mitigate the problem. Intense lobbying in the United States has transformed camming into a serious felony and pressure on other countries, Canada in particular, has significantly reduced the number of copies from these traditional sources.

But of course, there are always others ready to take up the slack and it appears that in recent times that role has been filled by Hungarian pirates. This year, probably using secret watermarks, the major studios including Sony Pictures, 20th Century Fox and Warner Bros. have been tracing copies of first-run movies back to local cinemas.

While the problem has existed for some time, a source familiar with the situation believes it came to a head recently when Hangover Part II turned up online just after its premiere. Videoed in a Hungarian cinema, this copy initially had fairly limited appeal due to its dubbed local language audio. But as usual, pirates have innovative tricks up their collective sleeves.

Due to tough legislation (not to mention tools such as night-vision goggles) camming usually proves very difficult, say, in the United States. However, recording just the sound from a movie onto a small portable device is not. So, armed with the video to Hangover Part II obtained by a Hungarian release group and a soundtrack easily culled from an English-language region, pirates connected to the P2P release group ‘EP1C’ spliced the pair together producing an end product with massive appeal.

This illicit release, added to the many others coming out of Hungary this year, appears to have caused Warner Bros to run out of patience. The studio has now announced that in order to stop piracy, for the foreseeable future their movies will not be released locally, on or even close to US release dates. In addition, Warner are said to have banned midnight screenings in Hungary altogether, presumably since these quieter times are more popular with cammers.

In recent months many of the key illicit copies, including Hangover Part II, have been made available by a Hungarian release group known as CiNEDUB. Keep an eye on this group for the rest of the year for an indication of whether or not Warner’s strategy is working.

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  • Shiny Jirachi

    It won’t work…

    • Jerk Murdock

      Neither do I. That’s why I shill for the MAFIAA. =(

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      Not only it won’t work, it’ll boost the piracy rates. I thought MAFIAA was anti-pirate but they are taking all possible measures to boost the sharing rates… Go figure..

  • Acheron

    LOL have fun loosing profit, Hollywood!

  • Acheron

    At least you tried, Hollywood, at least you tried..

  • Sybollox

    MPAA Goon #1: “Our work here is done.”
    MPAA Goon #2: “So what are we going to do tonight?”
    MPAA Goon #1: “Same thing we do every night…”

    • hikaricore

      MPAA Goon #2: “But we’ve already taken over the world, right Mr. Obama?”
      MPAA Goon #0: “That’s right bitches! Ha Ha Ha! Hail to the king baby!”

  • http://gorankaracic.com Goran Karacic

    Punish a whole nation cause of the crimes a few individuals committed…
    Great work MAFIAA, great work!!

    • WTF

      Crimes?

  • Anonymousse

    People actually bother to watch cam rips?

    • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

      Well, if the movie is bad it’s still better than wasting money on it.

    • hikaricore

      I never watch true cam unless the sound is stellar, however if a telesync is decent enough (which most people know is a cam with line or better audio) I’ll watch it instead of waiting for an r5/screener/dvd|bdrip. Often times if I like the movie enough I will then go watch it in a theater with some friends after having watched a telesync.

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        That. But you are still a lost sale for MAFIAA retards.

        • Anonymous

          Lost sale =/= Person that did not fall for marketing hype of bad film.

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        That. But you are still a lost sale for MAFIAA retards.

    • Anonymous

      the only movies i watch

  • Uklad_1587

    why dont the studios think and release all the films the same time around the world, im sure u will still get someone trying to film in the cinema but i also think that it will rapidly decrease the urge for people to download a film as they know they dont have to wait months after a U.S. release date

    • Anonymous

      “why dont the studios think and release all the films the same time around the world”

      Because they’re idiot douchebags.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      Here’s a BETTER idea…

      Release the DVD with the movie. Make a bundle and a killing at the box office and have people pay for it right then and there. Who gives a damn about the piracy? *You just made money!*

  • Njh

    so now they will be cammed in another eastern european country and hungarians will download and watch those cams for free instead of paying at a theatre, so less $ for MAFIAA, more p***ed off moviegoers and a net increase in piracy.

  • Fasatmasta

    Lol really? I haven’t watched a cam rip anymore because r5 comes out so fast anymore.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vjQw5pif_Q

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  • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

    I knew a guy that worked at a theater as a manager. We watched whatever movies we wanted. I could have recorded anything and he certainly didn’t care.

    Stopping midnight showings will stop someone walking in and recording the movie, but who’s gonna stop the guy that works there, with a key, and watching the movie at 2am? No one, that’s who.

    • Wazz

      The new digital projectors are putting a stop to that. They only work at pre-programmed times and if you touch them wrong the “PIRATE ALERT” alarm goes off and whole thing shuts down. Then you have put in the master password and re-register the encryption over the internet.

      This is why 2d films look so dingy and shit in some cinemas – they leave the 3d lenses in place because nobody is trained enough to take them out without fucking it up and setting the PIRATE ALARM off.

      (It sounds like I’m making it up… but I’m not… :x )

      • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

        Yeah, that makes sense. I doubt the MPAA can put a spy in every theater for every movie, though. No matter how many locked doors or rigged equipment, I don’t think they can stop it. It only takes one person with a tiny camera that can fit in their pocket.

        Heh, eventually they’ll run us through metal detectors before a movie showing, I guess. Or maybe one of those airport security things where they take nude photos of everyone.

        • Anonymous

          Well recently, locally that is, they had police officers right outside the theater (for The Hangover 2). They were making people open their bags to check what they had in them. My little brother told me about this. He didn’t say what they were checking for but it still seemed wrong to me. You don’t give up your right to be protected from illegal searches and seizures when you pay for a movie ticket. I’d assume they were checking for drugs/alcohol (because there’s way too many idiots locally who think The Hangover 2 is all the rage and it makes them oh so cool to get f*cked up while watching it), but they may have been searching for camming equipment. Not sure if they were doing pat downs as well but it seems reasonable to assume they were if they’re checking people’s bag for “contraband”.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          Id say they are looking for alcohol. That would make sense
          considering the kind of crowd that goes to see The Hangover. :)

          Actually my sister went and said there was a bunch of rowdy teenagers.
          So take from that what you will, I guess.

        • Just_Somebody_Else

          There are people releasing ‘spy cam’ glasses with a good resolution that also use bluetooth so you don’t even have a wire running to the other device (storage or streaming gadget).
          Even metal detectors won’t work unless you have everyone naked because you can’t take away peoples glasses.

        • Thom

          My local cinema lets you take your beer in with you.

          Since I discovered that I’ve been going to the cinema a lot more than I ever used to. Learn well MAFIAA. :))

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          That’s because your cinema is awesome. We don’t have anything like that
          around here. Here the theater is filled with a sticky mess of a floor and
          dumb-asses that think it’s cool to talk during a movie. And kids. Lots of
          damn kids. No thank you!

          I’d rather download the movie and watch it at home. Actually, I would pay
          the full price of theater admission to get a movie in my house on the day it
          was released to theaters.

          Wow. I think I’m coming to realize how deeply shitty and outdated the
          public-theater-method of watching movies really is.

  • awesome

    Congratulations WB, you’ve just made sure Hungary’s cinema visits will drop, because they’ll just go download the movie instead of waiting the weeks until the delayed premiere…

    • http://twitter.com/uJonesing Utah Jones

      Brilliant point!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    Damn internet, Its killing piracy.
    Once upon a time we could make an honest living selling pirated videos and could afford to invest in bribing projectionists in first run cinemas to pass the reels out the backdoor of the cinema so we could use a telecine to get a decent video copy.

    But we cant compete with these kids going round with digital cameras in cinemas and releasing for FREE on the internet.

    Its got to the point where an honest pirate can no longer make a living.
    So lock em up is what I say.

    • hefey

      LOL!

    • PicklesMcButtSeks

      DOUBLE LOL!

    • Lndsv

      I’ll say subpoena these little fucks

  • Secular

    I hate cams. Really hope these Soviet Hungarian dirty Communists get busted and a**raped in the prison.

    • Lollin

      one more retarded

      • Zzzzz

        It’s so easy to spot the 12 yr olds.

        • ComradeKnobalot

          Its been years since my last commie bumming.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mathew-Lisett/666201726 Mathew Lisett

    “The studio has now announced that in order to stop piracy” they really havent a clue do they. and it wont matter one jot what time the showing is, just becuase its midnight does mean that piracy is fixed ona time zone.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mathew-Lisett/666201726 Mathew Lisett

    “The studio has now announced that in order to stop piracy” they really havent a clue do they. and it wont matter one jot what time the showing is, just becuase its midnight does mean that piracy is fixed ona time zone.

  • Anonymous

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  • Noah C.

    Who the hell watches cammed video’s? The quality is terrible. :P

  • Colin

    Crawl back under your stone and die, you nasty little spammer

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  • Brandon-is-a-spass

    How about they just stop playing the movies in the cinemas if they’re going this way? Fucking idiots.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/chillinfart Arturo Julio Zevallos Córdova

    If the movie is good, even with a “top download” pirated movie, people still going to cinemas because “is not the same thing”. Here in peru i saw a lot of examples.

    Delaying screenings does not minimize downloads, this trend will grow up until it’s release date… if the movie offers something good.

  • markie

    So people want movies the same time as theatrical releases. Wow who would have guest. I swear that only blonds work at movie studios.

    • Anonymous

      At least blonds know the difference between “guessed” and “guest”.

      • Anonymous

        At least I know the difference between blonds and blondes

  • DRuNKeN MaSTeR

    Hungarians FTW! We have almost 0 inspection upon entering a cinema. Not tap-down, no night-vision goggles, just a quick look in the bag/backpack if you have one.

    Gonna go Wednesday to Pirates of The Caribbean 4 in IMAX 3D – for $10.25 – U jelly America? :D

    • Anon

      No, because A) that movie sucks and B) I can just wait for the DVDrip.

  • muumi

    They delay I don´t bother that, I will not pay any way… if they don´t make new film, then we got better life, so it´s Fail…

  • Pfft

    So, they’ve finally found a way to eliminate piracy – don’t let anyone see the film.
    lol-cano!!!

  • Anonymous

    In Belgium there were these ads where you can call a number if you see someone camming. (Even at 3D films, which are uncammable atm). I have an idea: Let’s prank call the number and say we’re in a cinema somewhere in the middle of nowhere and we are seeing someone camming.

    I’m not a Belgian, I’m Dutch but I usually watch 3D films in Belgium – but only if they get good reviews.

  • anon

    delayed releases are one of the reasons for piracy
    way to miss the point, WB

  • Cam Rips Suck

    Personally I would never watch a cam copy. No matter how good it is the quality is still significantly lower than any other option. If it’s a movie I want to see I would never be able to handle the poor quality, and if it’s a movie I don’t care much about I can wait for the DVD release and get it from Netflix or a DVDrip.

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  • James Plotkin

    I’m sorry and I really hate to say this but you guys are seriously immature…I thought this site was supposed to present stimulating chat on interesting tech and copyright related issues. It seems like the majority of these comments (my apologies to those of you who actually are serious) are stupid and childish.

    I mean really…Barak Obama…Do you really have any idea what you’re talking about…or rather implying? because I don’t and I actually research this stuff on a regular basis.

    Real opponents to the current Intellectual Property system should take stock and make real meaningful substantive comments. Do you think the people down at the “MAFIAA” (very lame btw) are pinning about the people on “torrentfag.com”?

    No. rather than insulting their opponents, they seem to be trying to find new and exiting ways to win their little copyright war (like screwing up the film viewing industry in Hungary).

    I disagree with all this also but I swear every time I read a seemingly pre-pubescent fool write something like “Neither do I. That’s why I shill for the MAFIAA. =( ” or “LOL have fun loosing profit, Hollywood!” it makes me want to take up their side.

    BE SUBSTANTIVE!!!! MAYBE YOU’LL AFFECT ACTUAL CHANGE RATHER THAN WHINING LIKE A BUNCH OF ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT PUNKS!

    • Anonymous

      You_must_be_new_here.jpg

      People that come here every day and know what has been said, time after time, sometimes don’t bother to make good comments. At least they said something about the topic…

    • puddi puddi

      haha you made me laugh. It’s ok to laugh. That’s why we’re not always serious around here.

      If you’re curious about the general attitude around here, think of it this way. A big part of this movement from this generation is made up of people from 4chan. I’m sure you can find some sauce for that somewhere :)

      • James Plotkin

        Well I guess I have nothing to say to that. haha.

        Well played Puddi…well played.

        But seriously, let’s get some substance up in here!

        • Guest

          You’re looking for substantive discussion in a comments section? Where have you been since the internet was invented that made you believe comments are a rational place to seek new ideas and interesting conversation? A devoted forum is what you’re looking for.

        • puddi puddi

          hehe, no problem, just polite criticism. /b/

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  • Anonymous

    i’m willing to support a movement that will get better quality camcorders sent to eastern european countries, along with the most important item: training for the operators. this will help ease the high unemployment rates among youth in these countries.

  • Wempajr

    HAHA!

  • Anonymous

    I am proud of the Hungarian pirates!

    Frindli from Hungary…

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  • John Smith

    Hollywood tried ……….. and failed trying to. But hey they tried so lets have some respect;)

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