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Canadian Movie Pirate ‘maVen’ Sent To Jail

Geremi Adam, a member of the movie release group ‘maVen’ has been sentenced to two and a half months in prison. The 27 year-old Montreal resident, who was referred to the Canadian police by the FBI, pleaded guilty to distributing two major motion pictures.

maVenHalf a decade ago ‘maVen‘ was one of the most active movie release groups on the Internet, known for distributing high quality ‘Telesync‘ versions of major blockbuster titles. In the summer of 2006 ‘maVen’ releases suddenly halted, and it later became apparent that the FBI had caught one of its key members.

An FBI investigation into ‘maVen’ had been running for some time and was handed to the Canadian Police in April 2006. A few months later Geremi Adam was arrested after he allegedly recorded the movies “How to Eat Fried Worms” and “Invincible” at a Montreal movie theater.

They seized his laptop and other equipment and later released him, only for him to be arrested again at another theater just a month later. According to the police, Adam had been selling copies of movies on the Internet using the alias ‘maVen,’ which were then re-sold on the web and the streets.

Following Adam’s arrest came a 14 month wait as the police combed computer systems and equipment looking for evidence to convict him. The FBI had labeled him the ‘World Leader’ in Internet piracy and his case went before court several months later.

Today the verdict came in, and the Court sentenced Adam to two and a half months in prison – the prosecution had demanded four. The defense lawyer had argued for community service because Adam suffers from depression and a troubled childhood, but despite these arguments, the Court decided to opt for a prison sentence.

As of today there are still dozens of ‘maVen’ releases available on BitTorrent, although most of these files have no active downloaders anymore.

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  • anon

    sad when one of the cammers go down, maVen had some good early rls stuff. Not sure the claims of him selling it on the streets were true though.

  • *D

    The FBI???
    better send in the NSA too, those pirates are filthy I tell ya

    btw.. selling huh? Bad.

  • Anonymous

    Haha, world leader of internet piracy.

    All hail the leader!

  • Bob

    So this was handled in Canada, right?
    He’s lucky then; 2.5 months seems like a slap on the wrist. I wonder what he would’ve gotten in the States…

  • fusen

    If it’s true he was selling then I have no pity for him, otherwise, it’s a bullshit charge :/

  • zzzzzzzzz

    maVen was a legend

  • Øystein B. Jakobsen

    There is a huuuge difference between copying for non-commercial purposes, and commercial copyright infringement.

    If it is true that he profited economically from the infringements then they get no support from me.

    If it is false, its another bogus verdict that needs to be contested and fought!

    But – although I have no love for commercial copyright infringement, I do believe in a sense of proportionality. I don’t think that rapists should get 1 month in jail and shoplifters should get 1 year… the punishment has to fit the crime and actual (not theoretical) damage caused to society.

  • Borderliner

    Not really impossible. Sure, most of us loathe commercial pirates and those who actively make money from pirating, but let’s face it – when someone offered some cash for the stuff we’ve downloaded (or cammed/ripped ourselves) then I bet most people would sell and only after that realize that they’ve just acted as commercial pirates. Ideology is one thing, the reality another…

  • Who Fung Dung

    Please stop trying to justify stealing and illegal selling of copyrighted material sentencing by posting falsehoods.
    Rape sentences are thus:
    a minimum of five years’ imprisonment for rapists whose victim was aged over 18.

    U18 sentences are justifiably higher.

    Not the month you quote to make the sentence harsh.

    If he was was selling, he’s got off lightly, if he wasn’t far from a BS sentence it looks about fair.

  • Anonymous

    “There is a huuuge difference between copying for non-commercial purposes, and commercial copyright infringement.”

    There is NO DIFFERENCE. What exactly is teh difference?? Are you trying to say that poor people such as single mothers and the disabled who cannot afford a computer or internet should be denied teh right to purchase movies cheaply from a commercial pirate? So piracy is only for the people who can afford a computer and internet connection (ie. the ones that can afford to buy legit goods in the first place)

    Goddam hypocrite.

    “If it is true that he profited economically from the infringements then they get no support from me.”

    Then don’t give support to non-commercial pirates either.

    “If it is false, its another bogus verdict that needs to be contested and fought!

    But – although I have no love for commercial copyright infringement, I do believe in a sense of proportionality. I don’t think that rapists should get 1 month in jail and shoplifters should get 1 year… the punishment has to fit the crime and actual (not theoretical) damage caused to society.”

    OK show us one case where a convicted rapist got 1 a month prison term then?

    No? Thought so, full of exaggerations and holier than thou crap again (ie. piracy is A-OK as long as it’s the way I do it, but if you sell it then I’m against it).

    Hypocrite.

  • znix

    So a pedophile gets 3 months of community service, but a movie pirate gets jail time for two movies? Something aint right…

  • Virotelisa

    @Who Fung Dung

    There are more countries then just the USA. And unfortunately Øystein claims are quite correct – i have seen as little as 180 hours community service being awarded to convicted rapists.

    ONTOPIC:
    If they were indeed selling cammed stuff on the streets, they will get no support from me either. In my eyes torrents are still a means to test stuff before you either buy or delete it. (Perhaps i’m a minority but still..)

    If your selling copied items for a profit, it is plain copyright infringement in my eyes.

  • AnarchyNow

    1) he now an obvious political prisonner
    2) and the war criminal George W. Bu$h is still free
    3) and other global criminals against humanity like Bill Gate$ and Steve Job$ and the queen of England and the king of Arabia and the rest of the worse than nazi billionaires are still free

  • Anonymous

    “There is a huuuge difference between copying for non-commercial purposes, and commercial copyright infringement.”

    I guess you must be against public tracker owner making profits then as well?

  • doktor mcnasty

    “No? Thought so, full of exaggerations and holier than thou crap again (ie. piracy is A-OK as long as it’s the way I do it, but if you sell it then I’m against it).”

    Sharing is not piracy.

    Before the internet came out sharing was called bootlegging. Making money off of someone elses work is piracy. Sharing with others brings no financial gain at the cost of others. Therefore it is not piracy.

    & I wish this rags regular article about the top 10 most shared torrents would stop encouraging this nonsense by labelling it piracy.

    Making money off of these things is a difference from not making money off it & stop trying to convince people it isn’t.

  • Dan

    2 and half months is nothing, in Canada they get out of jail after 1/6 of time served. So after 12 days he will be out. So, enjoy the free food, the gym, etc.

  • Nailin Pailin

    two and a half months in prison…….pfft bet they spent millions on finding him ?& then millions on litigation. Big FU

  • History buff

    lets clear up one little thing.
    George Bush was not a war criminal (that’s the popular phrase ain’t it though).
    He has support not only of the Senate, but congress, and the American people, as well as NATO.
    There fore, it’s safe to say he had the majority of the world saying it was ok to invade that crap hole country.
    Saying he’s a ‘war criminal’ is incorrect. Had he done this with out the WORLD’S support then maybe you have a reason, but alas, with the support of pretty much everyone, he is not a ‘war criminal’.
    Also, look up the phrase, idiot, as he was not actually killing anyone his self, he can not be considered a war criminal as he didn’t do any killing.
    Saying what you hear is a bad way to show you’re just as big an idiot as the rest of the bleeding heart liberals who seem to sleep beter at night as long as they can label some one else.
    If you enjoy freedom, you have to realize, there are those who must do the things that assure that the world doesn’t fall under one dictator (obama)
    Thats the TRUE criminal. Don’t trust him folks, it’s only going to get worse from here on out

  • maVen

    Dude actually sold pre-released to affiliates before pre’ing them to topsites. I was in one of the sites he hanged.

    He deserves some time.

  • finfag

    A just call by the judge.
    Making profit is against the code of internet pirates.
    I’m on a Finnish private tracker where the users pay the cost of the servers directly to the host, that is as fair as it gets.

  • Phoenix

    wtf is the fbi doign in canada ?

  • frogger

    jeez have these halfwit trolls had their contraception removed? or do they get a free access to the net with every successful stupid test they take?

  • Anonymous

    ““No? Thought so, full of exaggerations and holier than thou crap again (ie. piracy is A-OK as long as it’s the way I do it, but if you sell it then I’m against it).”

    Sharing is not piracy.

    Before the internet came out sharing was called bootlegging. Making money off of someone elses work is piracy. Sharing with others brings no financial gain at the cost of others. Therefore it is not piracy.”

    Actually the generally accepted meaning for the term bootlegging is making an unofficial recording of a live event – not counterfeiting goods or IP.

    But let’s assume you mean the reproduction of coprighted works – it doesn’t matter if there is profit or not: piracy is still piracy. It doesn’t matter if you give it a fluffy feel-good name like “sharing”, it doesn’t matter if someone is directly profiting – it is still piracy. People cannot be expected to make copies to just give out to people, there has to be a motive – financial gain in other words.

    The end result is the same and I fail to see the difference between copying files across the internet – benefiting intermediaries such as torrent indexers I might add – and copying the same files onto phyisical medium and then selling it for a cost less than retail.

    The whole attitude of “copying files across a network, that’s not only OK, it’s warm and fuzzy sharing” (with complete strangers that you couldn’t give 2 s**ts about) and yet “commercial piracy is wrong” is just nonsensical and appears to be a case of acting “holier than thou” – if you do one way it’s OK (because your doing it) but it’s not OK if someone else does exactly the same thing.

    Gimme a break, seriously.

  • Orwellian

    The charge of “selling for profit” is PURE BULLSHlT.

    Like all scene groups, maVen gave away everything for FREE. The prosecutors will always work the angle that freely sharing constitutes a kind of barter system: that by releasing original titles, they were in turn granted download rights to other people’s files. That’s how “sharing” gets redefined as “selling” – hence a much worse crime.

    These lies and distortions also serve the purpose of turning public sympathy against the former scene/P2P heroes.

  • BlackBeard

    The FBI is the Rich Man’s enforcer. The RM Lobby s in Washington to make Laws (MPAA & RIAA) & Bribes Senators to pass their laws. Sharing is now forbidden. We need a revolution in America. 1% now own 97% of the wealth in the USA. This isn’t right.

  • doktor mcnasty

    “The end result is the same and I fail to see the difference between copying files across the internet – benefiting intermediaries such as torrent indexers I might add – and copying the same files onto phyisical medium and then selling it for a cost less than retail.”

    In one case you make money off of something that isn’t yours and in the other case you don’t. The end result, therefore, is NOT the same.

    If you can’t see the difference in that then it’s because you won’t. And there’s nothing more useful to say after that point, I’m afraid.

  • dic

    if he made money, then fuk all the torrent sites with ads, they shoudl all burn in hell.. you are making money to, this is the start.. lol fu’s.. ur next

  • colonel ricter

    26 is right

    commercial piracy is a crime file sharing is not and thats all there is to it.

  • Anonymous

    @AnarchyFAIL:

    “1) he now an obvious political prisonner”

    Read the definition of political prisoner:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_prisoner

    By AnarchyFaIL’s perfectly logical reasoning a murderer, rapist and a fraudster are also political prisoners.

    “2) and the war criminal George W. Bu$h is still free”

    Funny – could it be that you are a failure at life and are hence jealous of this successful man?

    “3) and other global criminals against humanity like Bill Gate$ and Steve Job$ and the queen of England and the king of Arabia and the rest of the worse than nazi billionaires are still free”

    Bill Gates gives more philanthropic monies than any other man in history. He personally supervises the programs this money goes. He has alo pledged the entirety of his 100 billion dollar plus personal fortune to charitable causes after his death.

    He started out as a relatively unwealthy (by US standards) man and through hard work and perservearance got to where he is today.

    This is more than you will ever accomplish in your lifetime. Bill Gates is responsible for helping millions of underpriviledged people out of poverty, particuarly women and children.

    Under anarchy, because it has no central authority, the weak, defenceless and under priviledged suffer the most as can be seen in many third world countries and warzones where anarchy reigns.

    In other words not only are you criticising a man who has given genuine help and aid to millions of the worlds most defenceless and underpriviledged citizens and has also set up the aid of countless millions more people after his own death in perpetuity (forever) you are also advocating a political system that encourages and allows those same weak people to be further downtrodden, raped, suffer and die while teh strong live at their expense.

    Nice one dips**t.

  • Who Fung Dung

    ^^ good post “anonymous” ^^ well said

  • Anonymous

    @Blackbeard: “The FBI is the Rich Man’s enforcer.”

    Oh right, is that why they go after human trafficers, organised prostitution and organised pedofile rings then?

    Stop using such ridiculous emotice language to cloud the issue in your favour. They go after people who break the law.

  • Who Fung Dung

    Sorry colonel richter, but certainly in the UK you are wrong

    Copying of Copyrighted material that is not for personal use and distributing copies of copyrighted material IS unlawful, even if not for (as you define it) profit.

    If you have a copy of a file you have not legally obtained you are profiting

  • Anonymous

    “In one case you make money off of something that isn’t yours and in the other case you don’t. The end result, therefore, is NOT the same.”

    YES IT IS – YOU END UP WITH AN ILLEGITIMATE COPY IN YOUR HAND AND THE ARTIST, DISTRIBUTOR AND EVERYONE ELSE DO NOT GET PAID WHETHER YOU BUY IT OR NOT.

    Stupid pirates don’t even know how to make their own case – in both cases people are making money off “something that isn’t there’s”. By your own argument you should be against many public trackers as they are making a profit by linking to copyrighted material.

    But you aren’t – because it’s “OK BECAUSE I DO IT” but it’s a “TERRIBLE THING” if someone makes a profit off it. Like public tracker operators in other words.

  • leechboy

    #29

    Absolutely correct.

    Poor pirates here would never understand that logic. They’re used with everything to be free. At least on the internet. We function by system known as Capitalism. Free warez? So, you’re supporting communism? Sharing is caring? Nah.

    I bet you wouldn’t lik to share your car or bed with some random _dude_

  • Em

    Well, not that I have something against that guy, cam’ing movies for non-personal use is illegal and we pirates know that, but just don’t want to admit it… just that this time the verdict is OK for such a thing. Talk about 75 days in prison in the Canadian justice system vs. a gazillion dollars in damages and years of jail time in the us system, never mind the res-of-life-on-probation time after that.

  • *D

    hahaha… “Who Fung Dung” + “Anonymous”
    seem to be the same person
    Lolz :)

  • Georg

    @ history “buff”oon

    let’s clear up some more things here:

    George W. Bush had BY NO MEANS the “support of the world” for invading iraq.

    And he had NO SUPPORT from the NATO itself either for his atrocities!

    Colin Powel intentionally lied to the UN and presented fabricated “evidence”.

    They IGNORED the UN, gathering a corrupt band as “coalition of willing”, and did what they wanted to do anyways.

    They literally formed a criminal force to wage war!

    Donald Rumsfeld
    Dick(head) Cheney
    George W. Bush
    and their puppet Colin Powell
    and all their absolutely ignorant and really STUPID “falcons” who had no understanding of what they were doing …

    … had NO SUPPORT of the “world”!

    They acted on their own as they saw fit. They didn’t care for any international legislation.
    They just happened to have the biggest military force on this planet at their disposal!

    And who cares about congress and constitution of a country that is so filthy wrapped in lies and self-delusions as the USA (and you yourself) obviously are!

    The support of the world?

    Did you ever consider the world to be much bigger than the selfish and self-centered piece of shit that the US conservatives are?

    Most of Europe were literally disgusted by the policies of the George W. Bush regime.
    India?
    China?
    South-America?

    The damage and disgust for the USA that the regency of George W. Bush instilled in the WORLD cannot even be described by words.

    I am a mainly conservative German – and have been one of the most loyal allies and supporters for “western” NATO policy during the cold war and nuclear confrontation.

    But the US citizens should better wake up and realize the tremendous damage that the heinous reign of George. W. Bush and his monkey-government caused in the world’s population.

    After George W. Bush the USA are no longer the synonym for the free and righteous but for the stupid and egomaniac!

    Have a “Tea Party”, you idiots!

    ****************
    And my sincere apologies to torrentfreak for abusing the discussions for basic political statements – but the ignorant blathering of “History Buff” needed a profound rectification!

  • FactX

    he will be a MARTYR for me, and my negative attitude twards the major studios is ever increasing

  • Cujo

    CBC radio news just said that they’re letting him go with 100 hours community sevice

  • Captain Music

    @32

    You guys better get that piece of shit law changed. It’s retarded.

  • History Fluff

    George Bush is a war criminal.
    Well, maybe he is a war suspect, innocent until proven blah blah blah
    like someone might take him to court….
    With his ‘daddy’ doing speeches for the carlyle group, his grandfathers ties to the Rockefeller empire (he was an accountant) there is no way this guy earned a presidency.
    We all know it.
    And of course he is a war criminal.
    Nato and UN and other installed US proxies, are bought and sold and controlled through leverage by the world bank.
    And who’s the biggest shareholder in the world bank??
    America!
    Oil is a finite resource.
    Oil is the cause of the artificial inflation of the worlds resources.
    And where did the Rockefellers start off? (Before they owned the federal reserve) The Fed owns every dollar ever printed and more.

  • qwerty

    18 Mar 17, 2010 at 13:26 by History buff
    He has support not only of the Senate, but congress, and the American people, as well as NATO.
    There fore, it’s safe to say he had the majority of the world saying it was ok to invade that crap hole country.

    herp derp equating american opinion to the opinion of the world

  • netz

    There is a big difference between prison and jail. He’s going to jail if he’s only doing 2 months.

  • Anonymous

    “George W. Bush had BY NO MEANS the “support of the world” for invading iraq.”

    So what? Basically the rest of the world other than our brave allies the UK and Australia were too pussy to get in there and secure a foothold in the Middle East to save Israel (the only functioning democracy) and more importantly to ensure the free flow of oil, untethered by regional strife. All of Europe benefits from this and yet you all hung back.

    “And he had NO SUPPORT from the NATO itself either for his atrocities!”

    Irrelevant to the issue. why bring that up?

    Colin Powel intentionally lied to the UN and presented fabricated “evidence”.”

    Wrong – he was presenting evidence he believed to be true at the time.

    “They IGNORED the UN, gathering a corrupt band as “coalition of willing”, and did what they wanted to do anyways.”

    So what? The UN is hamstrung by it’s very nature as a huge group of competing interests and there is nothing saying one has to recieve UN approval to wage any wars anyway – it would have made the war look better to you hypocritical Europeans if it had been approved but other than that it’s unimporatant.

    “They literally formed a criminal force to wage war!”

    Ridiculous use of inappropriate and emotive language. No one is a criminal unless they are convicted in some sort of court.

    “Donald Rumsfeld
    Dick(head) Cheney
    George W. Bush
    and their puppet Colin Powell
    and all their absolutely ignorant and really STUPID “falcons” who had no understanding of what they were doing …”

    So first Powell is lying to the UN and now he’s a hapless puppet – is this because he’s a black man that is a good public speaker that you’ve decided to now label him a victim? And I beleiev teh word you meant is “hawks”.

    “… had NO SUPPORT of the “world”!”

    Once again, irrelevant even though the rest of th eworld will happily benefit from cheaper and more secure energy resources – not to mention keeping Iran in check.

    “They acted on their own as they saw fit. They didn’t care for any international legislation.
    They just happened to have the biggest military force on this planet at their disposal!”

    Yes that is their job as leader. And once again there was NO LEGISLATION COVERING THIS SITUATION so stop carrying on about non-existent legislation please.

    “And who cares about congress and constitution of a country that is so filthy wrapped in lies and self-delusions as the USA (and you yourself) obviously are!”

    And yet unlike Europe the USA’s citizens have more rights and freedoms (Keert Wilders anybody – that’s repression), enshrined constitutionally no less. And Europe is so self-deluded that they happily continue to rely on the US for military assistance for the last 60 years up until the present time whilst bashing the USA at teh same time. Oh unless you’re in trouble in which case we’re your best friend.

    “The support of the world?”

    Irrelevant – US is the most powerful nation on Earth, we can throw our weight around – it’s our right.

    “Did you ever consider the world to be much bigger than the selfish and self-centered piece of shit that the US conservatives are?”

    Yes, the world that is weaker than the US and relies on the US to do it’s dirty work – sending it’s own citizens off to die for the “rest of the world”. Tell you what – when your as powerful as the US is militarily, culturally and economically the US will worry what you think – but as it is the REALITY IS IT DOESN”T MATTER TO THE US AS WE ARE THE MOST POWERFUL NATION ON EARTH BY FAR.

    “Most of Europe were literally disgusted by the policies of the George W. Bush regime.
    India?
    China?
    South-America?”

    Oddly enough all these cowardly countries sent troops in AFTER THE MAJORTY OF THE INVASION WAS COMPLETED BY 3 NATIONS as they want a slice of the invasion pie as much as anybody else.

    “The damage and disgust for the USA that the regency of George W. Bush instilled in the WORLD cannot even be described by words.”

    And yet your country WILL STILL ASK THE US FOR ASSISTANCE WHEN YOU WANT IT WONT YOU. Like the 50 years after World War 2 for instance. The weaker party always boos and hisses behind it’s masters back, it’s called jealousy and unwarranted sense of importance.

    “I am a mainly conservative German – and have been one of the most loyal allies and supporters for “western” NATO policy during the cold war and nuclear confrontation.”

    So suddenly when the US ations don’t benefit your country teh US is supposed to listen to you – after the trillions of dollars teh US spent defending weak little Germany? GImme a break, we have our own interests.

    “But the US citizens should better wake up and realize the tremendous damage that the heinous reign of George. W. Bush and his monkey-government caused in the world’s population.”

    And yet you love Obama – Europeans are essentially a shallow and callous people as a whole. Bush and Obama have had more or less the same policies and yet because you percieve Bush as being stupid and Obama as being smart, suave and a fine exmaple of a Black Man you love Obama. Obama slick talked his way into your silly little hearts and removed some of that “White Guilt” you have.

    The reality is Bush is not stupid (you actually think that stupid people become President of the most powerful nation on Earth? LOL) and Obama is continuing almost the same policies. Why the irrational hatred for Bush and the wqually irrational circle-jerking for Obama?

    “After George W. Bush the USA are no longer the synonym for the free and righteous but for the stupid and egomaniac!”

    Blah blah blah, and yet you’ll still come a’runnin when you need something done and your poorly equipped, small army can’t cut it – and expect Americans to die for your country.

    God Europeans are hypocritical, it sickens me. Enjoy the oil you’re now happily recieving thanks to the Irq invasion.

  • Anonymous

    DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!
    DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!
    DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!

    Then like all stray dogs do they will move on.

    Do you really care what these think?

    And about the law, all those ss guards in concentration camps were just obeying the law too. Did that make it right what they done>

    Exactly.

    SEED TILL YOU BLEED!
    SEED TILL YOU BLEED!
    SEED TILL YOU BLEED!

  • Who Fung Dung

    Pirates, Filesharers(whatever) Pwnd by “Anonymous”

  • Anonymous

    “And about the law, all those ss guards in concentration camps were just obeying the law too. Did that make it right what they done>”

    Yes it did – if they’d done their job properly (ie. got rid of the problems) then most likely the World Trade Centers would still be standing today.

  • Trelew

    OK so we have an Anonymous corporate stooge present (probably reasoned mind or Neo Styles) still shilling his corporate propaganda again.

    While see this reported in the news media is interesting, what became more interesting was the public reaction to it. My mom wondered why it was a news item and why they were making such a fuss over it. Simple answer…corporate propaganda spread through the news media, which is controlled by Big Business.

    Also noted was that most people didn’t see this as a crime, or certainly one where the punishment didn’t fit the crime. Especially when they compared it to what offenders of violent crimes get in Canada. If the guy was indeed selling what he was camcording in movie theatres, then he was guilty. But if he was just sharing it, then no.

    I thought it was amusing to see some of the language bandied about on this case. Like calling Montreal the epicenter of internet piracy. I think the Land of Knockoffs, China, still holds that title. Basically they are making this out to more than it was actually is. Big Business is getting ready to scapegoat this guy in the media and courts in order to get Canada to change its copyright laws to the way corporations want it.

  • lol

    i apreciate the guys efforts but he doesnt know when to quit..

    which kinda proves he was doing it for the cash flow, you dont get arrested and do it again for the ‘love’.

    but hey 2 months in prison? CAKE WALK SON. Honestly I would be pretty freakin happy about that sentence.

  • MATT

    I’m skeptical that he was selling them. It sounds like others were, and he was blamed.

    if I’m wrong, and he sold them, then yeah, send his ass to jail.

  • frogger

    36 Mar 17, 2010 at 14:17 by *D

    hahaha… “Who Fung Dung” + “Anonymous”
    seem to be the same person
    Lolz :)

    just caught on? – amongst other too – seems this one is on a mission, paid by the word by the look of the posts

    must have a sore finger pressing the refresh

  • lol

    @10

    dude give me what you are smoking.. seriously i wanna be that f*cked up..

    are you mixin or just like freebasing something?

    srsly.. you have to be on something cool cause your not making any sense.

  • Anonymous

    ” hahaha… “Who Fung Dung” + “Anonymous”
    seem to be the same person
    Lolz :)

    just caught on? – amongst other too – seems this one is on a mission, paid by the word by the look of the posts”

    Man some readers at his site are stupids – you’d think they hadn’t looked at any other site and seen the huge amounts of TROLLING that occurs.

    But no, this site is SPESHUL: it MUST BE THE EVIL MPAA paying for TEH TROLLS, the explanation couldn’t be TROLLS LIKE THIS SITE due to the fact that it’s very easy to UNBALANCE SOME READERS EMOTION EQUILIBRIUM.

    There are MAFIAA agents EVERYWHERE, it could not be the MOST OBVIOUS EXPLANATION that trolls have a great time here thanks to REACTIONS (liek all trolls), it MUST BE THE MAFIAA SPIES, BEEING PAID TO POST.

    IMMA MAFIAA TROLL, SCREWIN’ YA TORRENTFREAK!

    It’s that important to the MAFIAA that we pay people to MeNTALLY UNBALANCE ALL YOU CRASHY KOOKS and your UNINFORMED views!!!!

  • frogger

    yawwnnnnnnn BORING

  • Trelew

    Just going through some of the comments made here. The one reason that people are so against Big Business on copyright issues is because they have a history of abusing it to make a profit.

    Corporations tells lies like they losing profit to internet file sharing, when they have been making more money than ever. They spread their propaganda in the new media. Have spin doctors troll sites like this. They blatantly lie in courts which have been compensated so that they can have their “show trials”. The use corporate lobbyists with deep pockets to bribe politicians and senior government bureaucrats. DRM does nothing but punish the public who buy their product. They do all this and more and expect the public to believe they are innocent victims? Please, give me a bloody break!

    OFF Topic – Bush was not a war criminal but supported war profiteering. The events of 9-11 give him the perfect opportunity to do things that he would of never been able to get away with before. As a result, Americans have fewer rights than before and live under blanket of fear of speaking out less they come under the scrutiny of the Dept of Homeland Defense.

    OFF TOPIC – The FBI and other American agencies routinely interfere with the way the Canadian government operates. Nothing new there. Sad to say we just don’t have the politicians with the balls to stand up to the bullying.

  • hmmmm

    quote
    “lets clear up one little thing.
    George Bush was not a war criminal (that’s the popular phrase ain’t it though).
    He has support not only of the Senate, but congress, and the American people, as well as NATO.
    There fore, it’s safe to say he had the majority of the world saying it was ok to invade that crap hole country.
    Saying he’s a ‘war criminal’ is incorrect. Had he done this with out the WORLD’S support then maybe you have a reason, but alas, with the support of pretty much everyone, he is not a ‘war criminal’.
    Also, look up the phrase, idiot, as he was not actually killing anyone his self, he can not be considered a war criminal as he didn’t do any killing.
    Saying what you hear is a bad way to show you’re just as big an idiot as the rest of the bleeding heart liberals who seem to sleep beter at night as long as they can label some one else.
    If you enjoy freedom, you have to realize, there are those who must do the things that assure that the world doesn’t fall under one dictator (obama)
    Thats the TRUE criminal. Don’t trust him folks, it’s only going to get worse from here on out”
    end of quote…
    mate you’re actually wrong: bush IS a war criminal because unlike you said,not even 1% of the world countries wanted that war.only HIM!!
    europe was against and the u.k only went to war to show their support with the americans ( although the majority of british people didn’t want to go to war…)
    you’re talking s*$t and you support criminals ( war criminals that is).
    SHAME ON YOU !!!!

  • silversurfer

    sad day :< he was god for his films

  • phishybongwaters

    Bush lied and fabricated evidence to justify the invasion, war crime, plain and simple.

    If “maVen” was selling TS’s on the street, first, a big f@ck you to anyone retarded enough to actually BUY a cam or Ts.

    Second, rot in jail you stupid punk, you are the reason we are all criminals and “terrorists” jackass, way to go.

    P.S. 2 and a half months in the Canadian system? He’ll be living better in there than out on the streets.

  • hmmmm

    that was for n*18 by the way.
    and while i’m at it n*18,look at what the country has become now…even WORSE than when saddam was in power.and god knows i do NOT support him and i do agree he was a tyrant.but there are people 10 times worse than him in power at the moment ( in africa for example ) but no government,and certainly NOT the u.s.a would want to get involved there…why?…i’ll tell you why,idiot,that’s because there is no money to get out of it!!!!
    whereas in irak there was petrol and a few deals with the neighbouring countries…;)
    so please THINK before you open your trap…
    people likeyou piss me off….:(

  • d[iO]nysus

    @52

    Obvious MPAA troll is obvious.

  • world is run by pedos

    to sum things up, the fbi are totally corrupt and are serious pedos

    Luckie: “What we get to see is what you deleted. What you got rid of what you put in your recycler and emptied we get to see all that. The graphic user interface that you’re using windows is just saying it’s gone. So you don’t clutter your screen with a bunch of deleted files. We clutter our screen with your deleted files.”

    Operation Fairplay. It was developed by the Wyoming attorney general’s office in 2003. It uses a photo’s so–called digital fingerprint to help law enforcement identify suspects who are using peer–to–peer networks to transmit, receive, and share their stash.

    Basically it works like this. Every digital image has an unique electronic fingerprint. Once investigators see the image they can capture and catalog it. From there they can witness real time transfers of known child pornography occurring around the world.

    But in Washington state without a download or a printout technically there’s no crime. Right now Detective Luckie say his biggest frustration is low sentencing guidelines. He says even if a suspects has thousands of images he can only be charged with one count. Without a prior felony, which is usually the case, that adds up to about a year in jail.

    Luckie has been a fbi cp watcher for a long time. He’s dedicated to watching child porn and loves his job. I couldn’t have found a better one he says. I love this he said. He has been doing this job for a long time. He acknowledges that it’s not for everyone, sometimes coworkers move on because it’s too emotionally difficult. They often wind up being pedofiles themselves http://www.davidicke.com/articles/child-abuse-mainmenu-74/31148-paedophilia-and-satanism-the-fabric-of-the-web

    Luckie says he stays dedicated to his mission because the purveyors and users of child pornography are so dedicated to theirs. Sometimes it keeps him up at night.

    But it’s not the images that haunt him. It’s the details.

    Luckie: “Because the fear of missing something and a guy getting away that would weigh on me that would bother me. A mistake that I made that would let somebody go free that’s hurt a child that would be devastating so I do everything I can not to be that guy.”

    Meantime State Attorney General Rob McKenna and supporters of his bill to expand the laws around child pornography are in last minute negations with a house committee. If the bill isn’t voted out by today it will be dead for the session.

    fbi source hidden use google if you get bored

  • wow

    Put it all together and the situation is as clear as can be: paedophilia and Satanism are the cement that hold the establishment control structure together in every country, and these ‘national’ networks connect together to form a global network of paedophiles and Satanists all watching each others’ backs – while they continue to serve the Control System.

  • Pirate Dave

    Am I the only one that as soon as I see ‘certain’ names on here I skip to the next post?

    And if I see a reply to those names then I skip that reply also.

    I find it makes for faster and better reading–and my lunch digests without any effort.

  • lolz

    he gets what he needs, selling copyrighted material is not ok in my opinion. You should not be making profit with other ppls work.

    Downloading from the net isn’t any better but you don’t make profit on it, that whats making it ok

  • hey its true

    http://kuow.org/program.php?id=19551 here is a source for 60, although the post came from another, (google)

  • Anonymous

    Considering a convicted sex offender gets six months in jail, http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/2010/03/16/13255481.html

    This sentence seems extremely harsh in comparison.

  • George W

    @37 Suck on the tank/gun barrel of freedom beeatch!

  • 6sixty6

    he should have got longer jail time. 2.5 months is a joke.

    if you can’t do the time don’t do the crime.

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  • NOT A DATING SITE YOU TARD!

    @43 Lisa’s dildo…..put your dating “advertisements” on another site you scumbag….nobody wants to read your ads or go to your crappy ass-pirate site….how many times are we going to have to read your advertisements in your choppy english you wanker!

  • OJ

    Camming is a risky business. This guy didn’t stop after getting caught the first time… Selling pirated movies for profit is like begging to go to prison…

  • Anonymous

    “@43 Lisa’s dildo…..put your dating “advertisements” on another site you scumbag….nobody wants to read your ads or go to your crappy ass-pirate site….how many times are we going to have to read your advertisements in your choppy english you wanker!”

    I’m sure the bot hears you.

    LOL, idjit…

  • don’t sell bootlegs

    Cyberwar Hype Intended to Destroy the Open Internet

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/cyber-war-hype/#ixzz0h8lDGcEI
    this is another one of their tactics, make go viral as its very important for the net.

  • oh canada

    2 1/2 months in prison isn’t a trip to disney world, but considering in the US he would be looking at probably at lease a year, starts to not look so bad…

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  • Anonymous

    The claim that he was selling movies is a lie! Another one!

    if these corporate parasites believe that because of this we are going to go back buy there stuff and encourage their criminals activities they are delusional!

    BOYCOTT the music and the movie industrie!

    NO CD! NO DVD! NO MOVIE THEATER AND NO DOWNLOAD!

    We can stay without their crap. They can not stay without our money!

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  • just in

    FBI uses phony profiles on social networks to track suspects

    http://www.infowars.com/fbi-uses-phony-profiles-on-social-networks-to-track-suspects/

    not only are they peds but frauds also (

  • CapnS

    Nothing to see here folks, he’s french Canadian.

    Ok, ok, I kid. Many should be thanking him for the work he’s done but also he deserves a wag-of-the-finger for selling. Bad maVen, bad!

  • Reasoned Mind

    @Trewlew, 49, I never post Anonymously. When the truth needs to be told, I just post it. And the rest of you read it.

    Success. :-)

  • Ninja

    If it’s true that he actually SOLD copies than he got what he deserves. However, I truly doubt he sold anything and I believe it was more of some idiot associating copies from his material being sold on the streets to the guy himself.

    Now, “World Leader” is hyperbolic….

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  • Einstein

    He was doing it as a treatment for depression, nothing wrong with that.
    Piracy can do wonders for depression!

  • antiantipiracy.blogspot.com

    I am from Canada and I think THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THE GOVERNMENT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT like our fkn road full of holes and poverty and fuel price!!!

  • non-american

    why so little?

  • tipst3r.com

    Damn, maVen was awesome back in the day. I never knew he’d been arrested. :(

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  • žnj

    Am I the only one that as soon as I see ‘certain’ names on here I skip to the next post?

    You’re probably not, that’s why the anti-pirates have now started posting as “Anonymous”.
    Which is very funny, considering I was berated once for doing so. What’s the matter anti-pirates, can’t handle posting under your nicknames anymore?

  • neostyles

    People who profit off the work of others are indeed the worst kind of pirates, but how does that confirm that noncommercial piracy is OK? It seems like many people are taking this is “there’s nothing wrong with piracy as long as it’s done how I do it” Ultimately, it still results in zero money going towards the creators.

    Maybe now people will take those “FBI investigates copyright infringement” warnings at the beginning of movies more seriously.

    There are still many groups to be taken down though. Im not exactly part of the scene, but I doubt they can afford the lengthy legal battle that the pirate bay carried out.

  • theo

    Hope he learned his lesson: Never sell.

  • Anonymous

    “You’re probably not, that’s why the anti-pirates have now started posting as “Anonymous”.
    Which is very funny, considering I was berated once for doing so. What’s the matter anti-pirates, can’t handle posting under your nicknames anymore?”

    Well I’m not anti-pirate – actually i haven’t purchased any movies – barring occasional cinema visits, TV or games for over 10 years (in my “defence” I have purchased a few apps but only because they couldn’t be pirated due to online services being critical) but I often find many of the opinions and reported facts both in articles and comments here to be verging on the ridiculous.

    From wishful thinking, mindless opinions expressed with evidence indicating the contrary in a great circle-jerk of agreement (eg. Bribery in cases lost by the parties offering the bribe anyone?) to statements that aren’t reflected in reality (eg. “I want to support the artist but if I pay for something the artist won’t get anything – seriously, so they then think it’s better to actually not give anything by pirating it). Also the opinions of some indicating that they believe artists to be “enslaved” by corporations (the artists signed a voluntary contract, the artist obviously think this is better for them and are not enslaved) – and that the artist would make more money if they distributed their work themselves over P2P (like I don’t think someone defending the right to piracy knows better than an artist regarding how much money they will make – this is an especially dumb example but I’ve seen it expressed again and again).

    Sometimes I get labelled “anti-pirate” etc. – I don’t care, I won’t stop pointing out what seems to me to be self-evident facts if people post head-in-the-clouds rubbish regarding filesharing.

    I try to be honest with myself and others – I’m ripping off the artist and others, I don’t care though. Some posters here though … instead of being honest come up with such rubbish to justify piracy such as “the artist is better off with piracy than with their label getting money” (= artist getting no money at all) and “I’d stop movie piracy if online services were available for cheap at same quality (they have been for a couple of years and if your not gonna pay $4.95 for a movie is too much you may as well admit it: your not pirating because of the price. And “piracy is justified because being denied movies and music is a breach of human rights because it’s *culture*”… just stupid crap basically. You can live quite happily without movies and music – heck, if you need it that much go and buy it.

  • Who Fung Dung

    žnj – you are so funny
    Most days you crack me up
    Ever thought of doing a comedy writing course>?

    FEED THE TROLL & HE WILL REPLY

  • Who Fung Dung

    Again anonymous is spot on

    It’s the pathetic excuses promulgated on here that get me as so eloquently explained above.

  • Anonymous

    “i dont really care ”
    thats refreshing to hear,

    me personaly yeah i rob,yeah i steal, yeah ill put your body in a feild.- 3 6

    fuck em they dont care about me.
    why do people worry so much bout it?
    do you think that if your kids were starving any of the big five or your favorite artist would give a shit?

  • frogger

    I try to be honest with myself and others – I’m ripping off the artist and others, I don’t care though. Some posters here though … instead of being honest come up with such rubbish to justify piracy such as “the artist is better off with piracy than with their label getting money”

    ho ho ho as well as being a bullsh.itter and a liar you now speak for others too – damn what a talent

  • Anonymous

    His telesync releases really were quite excellent. Most telesyncs I wouldn’t watch at all.

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  • Just wondering

    TPB have been making money hand over fist for years.Don’t deny this.I neither condemn nor condone them.
    It’s just strange to see some of the misaligned comments.

  • Jezoss

    all information should be free cos it cant be kept from propagating. and with the technology today a movie is just information

  • Jezoss

    and by free i mean, you should be free to do whatever you want with it including selling it.

    think about the future when robots like r2d2 will be in the theater and ppl will have internet connected in their head… ppl wont be able to prevent the movie from beeing recorded into their memory.

    to me its a bit like putting a copyright on aids!

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  • .

    Walk into the jaws of hell
    Anytime
    We can wipe you out
    Anytime

    Signed FBI MAFFIA

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  • AnyMouse

    @ 76

    There are many different versions of the truth, opinions tied those versions of truth with people who honestly believe in their specific truth. Holy wars have been started because of this, so just remember;

    Nobody has a single truth, their is always a bias of some sort, to think one is superior is foolish and childish (I’m not accusing you of this, making a point)

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  • klitoratii

    lol one down. about a million left to go. well down jackasses.

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  • Sorny

    Ha! Only 2 and a half months, i was worried for a second. Great job FBI

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  • i8paintchips

    OMG, imagine the $ spent to put this major scene player away for gasp 2.5 monthes. This will definately deter anymore file sharing, I am going to disconect my service just to be safe.

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  • Bob

    There must be some kind of reasonable doubt against him selling the movies or he probably would have gotten more than just months.

    he probably only got caught because the FBI (and presumably, the MPAA holding the leash) had a hard-on for him.

  • Quartz

    There seem to be so many paid shills on this site placing up straw man arguments that they then demolish its pathetic.

    Get a grip please, if you want us to come and trash your sites then bring it on, oh am I bad you half wits at the media companies don’t have any sites that allow free speech, a perfect example of your mentality or rather lack of it.

    Dont be misled folks you are all content creators, the Cartel would rather you forgot doing stuff for yourself and relied on them for pulp product that barely passes muster after the video trailer or first single off an album, they may try to steal your will (and your cash) to create but you dont have to let them, fight them here, fight them on youtube and fight them whether they raise their rat shaped heads, they may nibble but the fact is we are many and they are just a few sad pathetic employees of the corporate machine, they may be slaves for cash but we will always be free to create, be their worst nightmare and stop buying or reacting to their trash and hype propaganda, together we can fill any gap they move out of, create for free and erase them out of the market place.

  • random

    lol 2 and a half months? Damn thats worth it

    There was a story as well in Canada, that coke dealers are gettin like 4 months in prison

    very leniant sentencing

    ill be expecting some more maVen releases in 3 months then :)

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  • Canadian

    Let me add a little perspective to this…

    Sex offender not going to jail
    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/03/17/nl-oake-appeal-317.html
    The Newfoundland and Labrador Court of Appeal has overturned a decision to send a central Newfoundland man convicted of sexually assaulting teenaged boys to jail.

    Copy a movie = Jail

    Questions?

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  • chokehold

    I don’t think it was HIM selling the DVDs. I’m sure he released them and other people sold them for their own gain. ALSO please keep in mind! DVDs cost money… I’m sure none of you would give DVDs away. You’d be broke before you knew it. I’m sure he was just breaking even if he did.

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  • at45

    @45;
    Have you met the Chinese?

    The guy you were bitching too was right; you are a bunch of egotistical, self centered fucktards.

    Whats wrong, some jock play hackey-sack with your ass in high-school?

    You are not the biggest, most powerful nation in the world, and funnily enough, you cite that you have “bailed” Europe out, but without Europe, your country wouldn’t exist. You kind of owe us one, really.

    And major lulz @ “Its our right”
    I love it when Americans say that. Makes my day.

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  • žnj

    “I’d stop movie piracy if online services were available for cheap at same quality (they have been for a couple of years
    No they haven’t and they aren’t. The world extends beyond the US. And even in the US, I doubt the availability at legal services is comparable to what’s available on p2p networks.

  • žnj

    žnj – you are so funny
    Most days you crack me up
    Ever thought of doing a comedy writing course>?

    I receive enough comedy from you guys, no need for me to do anything in this area.

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  • Do not feed the trolls

    Sign this now tom prevent mandelson madness.

    http://digitalproline.com/archives/264

  • Anonymous

    “George Bush was not a war criminal (that’s the popular phrase ain’t it though).
    He has support not only of the Senate, but congress, and the American people, as well as NATO.
    There fore, it’s safe to say he had the majority of the world saying it was ok to invade that crap hole country.”

    Most of the rest of the world was against it.

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    ??? ????????? ? ???? ????. ??? ?????? ??????. It’s terrible. What’s happening in the world.

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  • 7SeVeN7

    guess writing a post that goes aginst the writer/editor of this post is a no-no that gets ur post not posted—-CENSORSHIP—

  • jimmy Cracked kOrn

    http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4319605&nav=menu183_2

    child rapist gets 60days, less than a movie pirate does.

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  • Izzy

    A pirate goes on another ship, and steals the gold on board, and then kills the sailors and captains. When people download or upload copyrighted files, the original owner of the file did not loose anything, because a copy is made. If I buy a $10 T-Shirt, and draw the Ralph Lauren Polo sign on it, it would look like a Ralph Lauren Polo, but it is not, and in the process, I did not hurt Ralph Lauren, but if you look closely, it is not the same quality. If you download a movie, you get a cheap DVD, you burn the movie on that, and if you watch it, it is not the same quality, it is blurrier, and lower quality then the original, and it did not hurt the producers. It should only be illegal if you are making a profit on it. In fact, when you pirate movies or software, you pay for bandwidth, hard drive space, electricity, and many other factors, so you actually lose money in the process. If you sell it, then that is another issue altogether.

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  • Anonymous

    Not enough Mossad agents in the Canadian government apparently!

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  • Christopher

    The next person to ignorantly call copyright infringement “theft’ needs to be slapped! Please, stop, they are not the same.

    Also, what if I just let people access my hard drive and view the movie on their computer without actually copying the file to their computer? How could that be illegal? Is it?

  • Goblin

    Whilst I don’t condone any unauthorised sharing of copyrighted IP, it hardly effects me since I advocate FOSS.

    One thing that does puzzle me, with all this sympathy to the MaVen crew member for the custodial sentence, how is Mr Adam allegedly profiting from selling this material any better than the company that actually owns it doing it?

    Maybe Ive missed something?
    http://tinyurl.com/yen2sdq

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  • Anonymous

    corporations have no conscience. they dont mind destroying the live of millions of people for a few dollars. cos only profit counts for them, they do not feel responsible for their impact on the world

  • Anonymous

    if you want to do something to pass the time, maybe rape a kid ok… but do not copy a movie!!

  • Anonymous

    im gonna stop commenting now i dont wanna be spamming this page with my crap ideas… but i think the hollywood entertainment industry will shrink from its former brainwashing glory of the 80s 90s and new more appropriate businesses will replace them.

    we just gotta wait till they run out of money and maybe try to speed up things..

  • Goblin

    Thanks for the replies.

    #118 – I’d agree (about corps having no conscience) however corps are not “living entities” so then that would be a no brainer.

    I don’t understand how Harry Potter 7 or Warner Brothers (for example) have

    “they dont mind destroying the live of millions of people for a few dollars”

    maybe someone could enlighten me?

    #119 Now you are changing the goal posts, I said nothing about the sentence being proportionate or not, I merely wondered why MaVen were not being critisized by the file sharing community for doing exactly what the owner of the IP was trying to do…make a buck.

    “and new more appropriate businesses will replace them.”

    and far from spamming I think that if you have such an idea you should share it here. This is the problem, the high production costs of say GTA 4 need to be recouped, if they can’t , the product can’t be made.

    If I was a dev on the GTA team do you think I would work for free? of course not so thats my salary for starters. How many people involved in GTA would you say would happily work for free? most people have bills and families, much as I would love to live without money and off good feeling and praise by the others, I can’t.

    http://www.openbytes.wordpress.com

  • to ALL YOU MORONS

    @ everyone who argues that obtaining a shared file at no expense TO ANYONE (INCLUDING THE ‘INDUSTRY’):

    following your faulty logic, watching a movie loaned to you by someone constitutes ‘profiting’, and by that means ‘stealing’. what a load of crap. whats next, loaning a movie to your neighbor is now illegal??? wth? welcome to communist north korea or china. if you dont profit (and yes profit means MONETARILY, for those intellectually challenged out there), then you dont profit, period. watching a film free of cost (eg: a download, or a loaned or copied from harddrive file), then you havent profited, the end.

    anyone saying otherwise is ignorant and cannot comprehend the world they live in. word games are fun, but critical thinking trumps all, and will not be fooled by wishful thinking.

    keep on dreaming, dreamers. in my opinion, the weak-minded and stupid deserve what they get for believing what they are spoonfed.

    good luck in this world, sheeple.

  • TerribleTony

    @121 Why did you have to mention GTA IV?

    Funny that you mention that the devs at R* expect to get paid for their work. Well duh.
    The proble with GTA IV in it’s current incarnation (v1.0.0.4) falsely reports the existence of “Modified Files” and refuses access to multiplayer.

    Rather than solving this problem, R* choose to ignore my plea’s, because maybe they just don’t give a shit about the consumer.

    They are pushing me toward piracy through no fault of my own.

  • Goblin

    @121 – Ill answer this one first.

    I use GTA as an example because its a product that was distributed massively and the production costs of it are high. Its a good example to use when asking the question about how revenue is to be gained.

    Quote “Funny that you mention that the devs at R* expect to get paid for their work. Well duh.”

    Sorry you missed the point, which was, if people are expecting to be paid for work in a project how is that money to be recouped, I use GTA as an example because of its large team and costs, and ask the question if filesharing occurs then how on earth would the revenue be recouped? Its a pretty simple question, how do you raise the revenue required by a file sharing ethos?

    @120 Quote “ollowing your faulty logic, watching a movie loaned to you by someone constitutes ‘profiting’, and by that means ’stealing’”

    No it doesn’t (or certainly in the case of UK law) Let me quote Sec(1) of the theft act to remind you:

    “To dishonestly appropriate property belonging to the other with the intention to permanently deprive the other of it”

    Piracy,theft, whatever …are names that have been adopted and misued by many parties, but as you can see by the Theft Act have no resembalance to theft.

    As I say in my article (which has recieved over 4000 unique reads and nobody can challenge) is the point I made about Mr Adam and his actions. Is him profiting from others IP any better than the actual IP owners doing it? – of course not.

    I find it rather strange that you think others who don’t share your “view”? as being “fooled” since you obviously don’t understand the theft act at all.

    Of course your misunderstanding continues with the classic of:

    “watching a film free of cost (eg: a download, or a loaned or copied from harddrive file), then you havent profited, the end.”

    because the Designs and Patents act 1988 mentions nothing of “profit”.

    Now this is where you will probably claim that you are not from the UK, that is fine, I wouldn’t expect you to know law of another country, just don’t post your bizarre theories when you obviously don’t know about other countries.

    Quote “he weak-minded and stupid deserve what they get for believing what they are spoonfed.”

    Theres a delicious irony in that comment of yours.

  • foolish people

    goblin you are retarded.

    “delicious irony”??? pfff i bet you think that you are clever but in fact are merely pompous and pretentious.

    my post wasnt aimed at you but at ignorant people. as you took it personally and responded, then there is your tasty dish, dumba$$.

  • Goblin

    #125

    For starters the term “retarded” used in the context you mean might be offensive for some. Grow up and don’t use it. If you don’t have an argument don’t respond, theres no need for silly remarks which some may take offense at.

    It seems like I will have to explain a little more for you.

    The delicious irony was the comment made that people where spoonfed, when in reality they had no clue about the most important topic of all when discussing IP issues…law.

    To be fair, I really don’t have an issue if you download material infringing copyright or not. I don’t, but what others do is for them to justify and thats why I ask the question since Ive yet to see any justification. Ive asked the question many times on my articles, the only response I will get RE: piracy is usually an attempt to insult and thats with a daily average of 1000 UIP’s/reads.

    Quote “my post wasnt aimed at you but at ignorant people”

    So Im “retarded” (your words) but not ignorant? Ok.

    I did not care if the article was aimed at me or not (Ive grown out of being upset by petty insults) and my comments still stand. How dare you try to stiffle other peoples opinions by suggesting that if they don’t agree with you they are ignorant/stupid. That sounds very much like the actions that it is alleged FACT and the RIAA engage in.

    Quote “i bet you think that you are clever”

    I didn’t until I read your response. I do now.

    Quote “then there is your tasty dish, dumba$$.”

    Thanks. Please sir, can I have some more?

    For those would want a sensible, polite debate, I am more than happy to talk.

  • Anonymous

    He got quite lucky. Imagine how many fines and years he would have to spend in the USA.

  • Knarf

    “The FBI had labeled him the ‘World Leader’ in Internet piracy”

    Wow, the Bin Laden of piracy…

  • Haters

    Let the dude live

  • ihavetolaugh

    Bush a war criminal ?

    LOL …so I guess Congress lied the senate lied about WMD so thats why we went to war?

    Laughable…

    you better believe 9/11 was a reason to go to war ..was there any better one ?

    seriously, people who bash other countries and people need a brain replacement…

  • bushhater

    enough of this crap about Bush he is and always will be hated because he should never have been elected. he is stupid and hes a terrorist lover thanks.

  • Kryptiksoul

    You guys truly make me laugh. So he is great for pirating movies and uploading on the web for millions of you can possibly download and watch for free but garners no sympathies if he sold pirated movies for a profit.

    I mean many of you guys logic is laughable.

    Debate me at http://www.twitter.com/kryptiksoul

  • civicsi

    Ah maVen, I do remember your quality releases. Was sorry to see them go

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  • LTS

    You know, I’d be more willing to listen to some of your concerns if you could spell insanely complicated hard to spell three letter words such as “The” correctly.

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