Court Orders P2P News Site To Dishonor Convicted Pirates

Ernesto
June 14, 2009
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Following a request from the entertainment industries, a French court has ordered the P2P news site Numerama to cover the cases of 27 convicted file-sharers. For their efforts the site receives 10,000 euros which they promise to spend wisely by supporting a pro file-sharing cause.

Numerama is a French news site dedicated to file-sharing and copyright issues, much like TorrentFreak. They have openly criticized the Hadopi anti-piracy legislation and everything else spawned from the entertainment industries ‘war on piracy’.

In their reporting they try to counterbalance the propaganda being spread by the various anti-piracy outlets. This hasn’t gone unnoticed by the major movie and music studios who have asked the court of Nanterre to order the site to publish extracts of convictions of 27 copyright infringers.

The convictions are all related to copyright infringement and Numerama has published the first of three batches this Friday. The abstracts contain personal information such as the names, addresses, and birth dates of the convicted, as well as the sentence and the crime they’ve committed. (example)

Even though Numerama is not involved in these cases in any way, they have been selected by the court to publish the convictions as part of the sentence of the copyright infringers. The complainants in the 27 cases are likely to have picked Numerama in an attempt to ‘educate’ their readers.

It is quite shocking that a court can simply order an independent news site to publish something, but apparently that’s perfectly fine in the French legal system. Interestingly enough, the court will pay the site 10,000 euros ($14,000) for their cooperation.

Since Numerama doesn’t want to take money (indirectly) from the pro-copyright lobby they have asked their readers to come up with some ideas on how to spend the money. Their plan is to invest it in projects that promote free-sharing and online privacy.

Some of the suggestions include giving it to a Pirate Party, investing in privacy solutions such as a VPN service or buying servers to support a file-sharing network. Numerama are encouraging their readers to come up with more ideas and they have until June 28 to do so. Let’s hope something good comes out of it.

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the pirate

1st post yey
bob

Leave it somewhere where someone can steal it, thats the best way to help piracy.
Sarcastic Steve

It is quite disturbing that the legal system can just order an independent site to publish those articles like that. However their use of the money is a nice slap in the face for the industry =]
Meh

I’m disgusted by some of the things happening in France. A court ordering such, is just wrong in my eyes.
hmmmm

Just another thing wrong in France. Their intelligence could have showning right about now… if they had any
Nick Savage

A system that can force someone to say something can also force someone not to say something. That’s censorship.
Anonymous

surely it’s unconstitutional for a court to be telling the press what to publish?
Jefo

Do i read that correct, they can force magazines to publish personal data about people??
jonas

The court.. ordered them? WTH?
ngwoo

I don’t think we’re getting the whole story here. Is that site receiving funding from the government? Because that’s the only way I can see this being possible.
Use Your Brain?

France do not cease to amaze me, with their strange law-system??

So much for freedom of speech, which the high council otherwise just defended vigorously in cutting down the HADOPI-implementation.

Strange paradox…
@2

failcake
iShare

@3

No it isn’t, you seem to have it mixed up with theft. http://www.vincentchow.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/piracy.png
That is a handy guide for you to understand the obvious difference :)
guy

If this happens to tf, plz dont succumb. Fight the power!
Purple Haze

I am ordering torrent freak to…………………..(going to the coffee-shop)………………..(right thats me back)……….what was I saying now? Ah thats it, I am ordering torrent freak to write what they want. The frenchies should have a puff at the peace pipe and chill out a little. Cause if they keep pushing then “I PREDICT A RIOT……. I PREDICT A RIOT. Puff puff, fek it am gonna roll another one.
Osno

Actually, I think it was the other way around. They ordered the felons to post in the site. The money is money they payed to be published. The issue here is that the site is not a newspaper and it doesn’t have an “ad” page where you can post… hence the problem. It’s really weird that the court ordered these guys to make their “crime” public in 2 independent newspapers and a news website. There is a “right to forget” in France that is violated by that publication. Anyway, in defense of the site’s good name I found it impossible to find the cases and a google search for the guy in the jpg you posted using site:numerama.com doesn’t yield any results… so once again, thanks entertainment industry for wasting money and resources on nothing.
Anonymous

This can’t be accurate. Surely a modern government can’t just order an independent news organization to publish things.
I have a feeling that they were simply offered the 10k in order to cover these cases (although that doesn’t make much more sense). Then they took the money since it could be put to better use.
RoestVrijStaal

I guess the 10,000 euro’s is needed for a good advocate, because I guess at least one of the copyright infringers will sue Numerama for personal privacy violation infringement… they have the rare change to do it…
frasnasicio

A system that can force someone to say something can also force someone not to say something

http://i00.co.uk/77
Greenpete

This is just plain wrong!
WTF does the French government think it will achieve forcing an independent magazine site to publish what they choose?
I think it will simply knock another nail into the pro-copyrights coffin!
Dumb and plain wrong…
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Anonymous

The fact that they are being payed 10k euro shows that they are but co-operating with the french legal system for a tiny fee, come i mean seriously think about it for a second the french courts have ordered this website to do this but are paying them 10 grand…. looks to me like something has been mixed up in translation or not the 100% story is being told
AntiMatter

Controlling the media :(

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basement dweller

WTF. Just plain unfknbelievable! Not only forcing someone to do something but releasing home addresses and everything. It’s intentional humiliation and against the law in my country. French lose.
Guest

Can’t they just give the money to the convicted people they are forced to report about?
Anonymous

If I had a news site like that, and got ordered to publish shit, I’d sue anyone and everything for my right of freedom of speech, or burn the site down together with the 10k Euros…

Moronic French people…
Mr. Righteous

SHAME on you Numerama: COWARDS & SELLOUTS – i hope your site goes down and never again receives another visitor, you are a DISGRACE to every free-thinking human in France and throughout the world

as for the court – way out of order, this has to be appealed to a higher instance, such demands cannot be legal as they are an outrage in the modern world…where is the defense, why aren’t they responding ???

JUSTICE has to be RESTORED !!!
Anonymous

They thing the bad PR will go away or things will change if people now how bad they can be.

This is exactly why more people are doing it, just to show disrespect and give them the finger for being such a pain in the a#$% LoL
JeMoer

@23 and others
Normally they put these messags on ad pages of newspapers the newspapers are just paid normal market rate ad fees but the newspaper can’t really refuse to print the ad

The weblog just doesn’t really have an ad page like a newspaper does so that’s why it strange but it still counts as an ad and that’s why they get paid for it
deadmanamerican

id burn the site down and start another one with the 10 gs i got.
screw france and most of europe as well…america goes to hell first either way.
Osno

@31
Never mind them. Apparently they want to burn the site down even though they are actually helping the guys out by publishing the stuff in the most non-discoverable way they can find.
diOnysus

So much pour la liberte’…
dandin1

Just as your municipality publishes commitee and zoning change notices in your local newspaper(s), in France the courts publish their rulings in media. They are not influencing the content or opinion of Numérama. As you can see from the image, it looks exactly like an advertisement.

The goal of judicial publication is to promulgate justice. However it’s true that with the advent of the Internet all it does is make the state look creepy and backwards.

However there’s a little problem with Numérama’s idea of taking a swipe at big content by donating the money: Have they checked to make sure that the money is not coming from the pockets of the guilty? It is not unheard for judges to order the convicted party to pay for the judicial publication.
neostyles

http://www.vincentchow.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/piracy.png

Pirates have taken it upon themselves to redefine theft within a very narrow scope to exonerate themselves. Makes sense though, If you are accused of something, simply redefine it. Evidently, being called a thief was a bit too much for the conscience of pirates. The information age has changed things forever. It has ushered in a new kind of theft. Theft has many forms, this is simply digital. The fact that it occurs in the digital world by no means makes it okay or means that it doesn’t affect the real world. People are getting laid off, loosing money, etc just because there are certain people who think the world revolves around them. It’s incredibly selfish.

At it’s most basic level, theft is depriving someone of something. As previously mentioned, with the emergence of the information age, proeperty isn’t only physical. Digital property can represent real life property. The fact is that piracy is depriving copyright holders of their profits (no, they aren’t greedy for expecting profits, YOU are greedy for believing that you can just nab up anything you see). It doesn’t matter if you are making a profit off it or not, it’s still theft. Although, with the current popularity of illegal torrent trackers, there is almost no way that they couldn’t be making money. The fact of the matter is that with torrents, you are basically making copies of someone else’s work and handing it out to your friends. The end result is ZERO compensation for those who own said material.

Pirates liek to play games with words. They will use the term “sharing” because it has a positive connotation. It imbues kindness. Sharing has never, in any sense of the word, been about handing out whatever your heart desires, regardless of who owns it.
js

Why is this happening in France?

Don’t people over there sit around n talk about revolution a lot? :P
Anonymous

“I don’t think we’re getting the whole story here.”
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lol, welcome to torrent freak.

go read their pirate bay trial coverage if you want to read anymore amateurish partisan coverage.
NoOne

Sharing has nothing to do with stealing, and for me there’s no dishonor no matter what the court thinks. Besides, #19 Osno is right, it’s the defendants who must pay the money, not the court. And Numerama’s choice, not taking the money, is really a very honest decision. Hats off! I’m sure TF would have done the same ;) :p
Anonymous

A big wtf in regards to that law. Though how bout we order the main stream media to cover some bad RIAA lawsuits.

Also “The abstracts contain personal information such as the names, addresses, and birth dates”

Add in mothers maden name and their ripe for identity theft
Anonymous

hey trollstyles how many times do you have to be told. its not theft. the internet was designed to share data you and your maffia buddies are just trying to bilk more money out of people. you see copyright was originally designed to reward creativity and to spur innovation. I dont see alot of innovating going on but i do see alot of attempts to stop it. You are [the maffia and friends] the thugs plain and simple.
give credit

I download stuff too but it is stealing really. don’t try to change the subject. there’s a reason why the pirate bay is called the PIRATE bay. and if its’ not stealing, who is getting compensated? the sharing thing is funny too… what if I copied some of your private data and shared it with people? would that be ok since the internet is for sharing?
Americanus

I have to say its rather distrubing that a court would actually order the publication of the NAMES and ADRESSES of “convicted file sharers”. This is rediculous. It compromises the safety of these people.
Karyudo

It is sad that the country that gave us the motto “Liberté, égalité, fraternité”, now is the first in a campaign to protect the big corporations and punish the people. I just hope the French wake up and rebel against Sarkozy
an American

Apparently there’s no Freedom of the Press in France.

Epic Fail France.
Anonymous

@neostyles,

You are an idiot.
o.o

Sarkozy is a douche,
thus the whole french legal system has become a doucherie!
.

Justice has not just to be done but has to be seen to be done.

It isn’t that unusual for court rulings to be published it happens in lots of country’s.
Kanine

It’s very bizarre…

How can a French court to obligate to Numerama to publish material that is against the beliefs and desires of their owners?

This is the same as saying that a private web site which is against the abortion is obligated by an agency of the government to publish material in favour of abortion… This simply doesn’t make sense.

For me, this story is not well told.
PetFoodz.info

It is amazing they would publish personal details..
Kanine

49–>It is amazing they would publish personal details..

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Exactly… according to the law, this is a crime to publish private and personal details of any person without their consent.

This violates the basic human right to privacy… the corruption in France is beyond of comprehension and tolerance.
Traum

Nice, unfair, really good and really “gray”. I like idea to get some money but hate what it cost to get money.

What they do next!?
ateologu

@neostyles:
Your beloved content producers/distributors want to benefit from capitalism (by receiving the price they ask for in return for their content) without playing by capitalist rules (allowing direct competition, i.e. the free re-use of any part of their work for making other works of maybe similar value, but hopefully at a different price). That’s the very definition of monopoly, it’s anti-creative and anti-capitalist. Until the “industry” gets its act straight and renounces the excessive monopolist “copyright” protections that allow them to set any prices they want for their products, I will continue to be a proud Pirate – I will download and share their content for free until their eyes bleed.

When everyone is breaking the law, it’s the law that’s broken, not the people.
kdsde

don’t blame the french politicos alone .
the MAFIAA managed to get such stuff in german copyrightlaw too!

MAFIAA bought politicos so much to have the judge order that a conviction can be published and the convicted even must pay for it himself!

MAFIAA – old obsolete business model and even older (medieval times) punishments!
Zerphed

Another public piece of failcake by the whole pro-copyright MAFIAA, which is now backed up by the French legal system!
markie

What is this i’m reading. Publishing peoples private imformation for all to see. Fuck that for a joke. I hope someone hacks the shit out of those idiots.
markie

Am i reading this right publishing peoples imformation for all to see. Can you imagine some poor persons imformation for everyone to see and their addresses.

Anyone could knock on your door and harm that person. This a very dangerous.
@all

I don’t support the dinosaurs.

This said, to see such publications in the press isn’t happening often, but it is legal.

So the title is wrong, the site didn’t “get paid to write about”, it received an order to publish a decision of justice.

And to all those who “can’t believe the government made the press write something” or so, you should read Edward Bernays or Noam Chomsky. Your protesting illiteracy won’t lead us anywhere.
Neworld

I’ve never read so much crap from comment.

YES, Numerama is force to publish this extract. But not only Numerama, differents newspapers have to do the same (such as Le Monde…). The court has the right to do it in order to “inform” the public about the decision they made. You can argue if it is bad or not, but i have seen a lot worse.

YES, the money came from the culprit. If you read the decision of justice, they have to pay for publication.

NO, Numerama can’t help these culprits. They are restrictions about what they can do with the money. That’s why they want to come with something that can help, and why they’re refusing this money.

NO, they were no “riots” as your douchebags may have think. I know you love your traditionnal media, but they said a lot of crap.

NO, France isn’t “THE” country of Freedom. Sarkozy wants the control of every media he can have, and Internet is the last he can’t control. That’s why you hear a lot of dumb law in France right now…

…That doesn’t mean that French people agrees with it. Why do people judge a whole country on their politicians and lobbies? Do you think we really need to get lessons from Americain?

I’ll stop here, but much of the previous comments are just crap, and people just think without any information… Tsss…
TerribleTony

That’s disgusting behaviour from a court of law(l). And if it was me running the ‘independent’ news outlet, I would have refused to publish it. Clearly the owners of that particular site have had surrender monkey for breakfast.
Neworld

And seriously, is the 1789′s Revolution the only thing you have read about France in your schoolbook that you talk about it everytime?

Go download some manuals in Pirate Bays…
neostyles

It’s odd how it’s considered dishonor when their veil of pretenses is lifted and they are exposed for what they really do. It seems like reality is not their best friend. It also seems like piracy is a little conflicted about the morality of it’s own actions. Almost like they are more comfortable hiding in the shadows of anonymity, but shy away from the light of truth, like vampires.
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Visssss

Pay me the money to buy rent a server and host a new P2P tracker!!
Neworld

Exactly neostyles. If the major would have to pay to publish a judgement where the culprit has been released, everyone here would be happy and would laugh very hard, saying that some justice has been made.

What do you know about these cases? For all we know, these peoples may have been making profits with piracy …
Karl Rosenqvist

Holy shit! The bastards! This is a fuggin attack on democracy .. as usual. I’m sooo glad I don’t buy their crap. The EU-courts should have something to say about this.
jupp

Give it to the convicted people so they can pay their fines :)
The eternal damned

This retardments all began when that dog -who is known by the name sarkozy-, self proclaimed the title president. I hope that lying, retarted, cheating bastard will be keelhauled by the ship of TPB.
Frogg

Hi all,

I’m French, and it seems you need some infos about how “justice” works in my country.

Yes, agree with you, the Justice system can be mysterious for a non French.

We have a law telling that Justice decisions can be forced to be published in newspapers or any others informations media (in this case, a website) if the complainer decide to.

Media have no rights to refuse these publication, but they’re indemnify by the complainer for the ad space losted.
So, Numerama is not guilty, it’s just legal in French laws, that’s all.

Is it a bad or good law ?
This is not the matter here.

The only interesting info is :
Numerama gives informations to their readers, and ask them what to do with the cash.

It’s now our work to find the greatest idea on how to use well this money.

What about preparing a riot ? …
Frogg

Ho, and for #66 :
“Give it to the convicted people so they can pay their fines :)”

It’s not legal :(
twzz

This outcome suggests an overtly culturally politcal struggle involving, the lobby groups , the judicial system and the politicians. Also the unusal and new approach to punishment which utilises the use of the internet as a place of public pronouncment together with the use of draconian and frankly very odd laws to ‘notify’ the public of the result of the case.

This action could open up a conflict of interests concerning the violation of the convicted’s human rights concerning the full publication of the their contact details on a global information network system which could have lasting consequences upon their lives.

Futher it suggests the arrival of a new era of many varied extremes of individual National Government policy towards policing file sharing. The same week as this french news story breaks, the Uk’s BBC announce a more liberal license funding package to set up a national email and letter warning system for those suspected of internet illegal file sharing but rejects punishment by internet disconnection in favour of lowering bandwidth and connection speeds for persistant offenders who have been warned.
shoryuken

wicked judges, wicked court!
Cordelia

Enough with the poorly informed anti-France comments from Americans!

This is completely normal, lots of coountries do it, including the UK for certain crimes.

The difference in this case is that nobody cares they committed this “crime”. Or they consider the guy to be a hero.

The only thing these people did wrong was not to use PeerGuardian or a proxy server.

French people normally don’t put up with nonsense from the government, I am sure they are
Guest

@neostyles (36:
‘Pirates have taken it upon themselves to redefine theft within a very narrow scope to exonerate themselves. Makes sense though, If you are accused of something, simply redefine it. Evidently, being called a thief was a bit too much for the conscience of pirates. The information age has changed things forever. It has ushered in a new kind of theft. Theft has many forms, this is simply digital.’

May I ask you what redefinition of the word ‘theft’ has been applied in your opnion? As far as I am aware, that word has always meant that something is wrongfully taken away from its owner. You’d have to strecht that very far even to find an analogy in the context of data. ‘Digital theft’ would have to mean an action in which data is not only copied, but the original is also destroyed. As far as I know, that’s not common practice and it isn’t compatible with the idea of file sharing.

‘The fact is that piracy is depriving copyright holders of their profits ‘

Well, if this is a fact, would you then be so kind to explain how exactily piracy does this? Most file sharers have a collection vastly outnumbering what they could have afforded if they wouldn’t have access to new distribution systems. However, that doesn’t stop them from buying media. In fact, the people that people that download a lot of media usually also buy a lot and tend to visit concerts, performances and cinemas more often. You seem to think that somehow people are only or mostly downloading stuff they would have otherwise bought. This is complete and utter nonsense. People are spending more than ever on media and there is no reason to assume that not having access to file sharing would have magically provided them with additional income to buy even more media.

People have been copying music for decades, be it on various types of tape, on CD-R or on hard disk drives. Even though this has always happened on a significant scale, the media industry didn’t protest very much until a new distribution channel started to arise. They don’t seriously believe file sharing has ever lost them a significant amount of revenue, but they justly fear that their effective monopoly on distribution is at stake. For a company that is used to having a monopoly on every product it sells on a product with negligiable marginal cost, this is a serious threat to their business model.

I am getting more and more annoyed with people defending copyright as if it were some inherent right. Copyright is a device that curtails the public freedom by granting a monopoly on copying some piece of data for a limited amount of time, in order to make it easier for writers and musicians to earn a living. It is not an inherent right, but a policy tool that was quite controversial when it was introduced. As most situations that involve a commercial monopoly within a capitalistic market, this doesn’t work. Copyright should have been abolished years ago.
candid

@neostyles

have u ever heard of human instincts ?
from that point the entertainment industry produces thiefs among common people, which people dislike so they pretend it sharing or something.
It’s like scattering ecstasy over the city’s central square, then sue everyone who picked up too much, for distribution
arrrg

This type of “orders” are often use in Counterfeit and Unfair business practices cases to repair commercial damages
Anonymous

If I can see it and copy it, it should not be a crime, I’m using my own work to copying it and my own resources.
TorrentTatty

All this Shit onyl for the Bad Songs from the Schikse *):
Madame Bruni-Sarkozy

*Schikse = ‘non-Jewish girl’ tifle ‘church’ chonte ‘prostitute’.
anon2

i wonder what would be said by the copyright industries if a court decided that the opinions of file sharers had to be published? that the lies being told by the copyright industry also had to be printed? that the false claims being made by the copyright industry had to be published, as was everything else that was being done to condem file sharing and make it out to be the most dastardly of crimes, worse even than terrorism, murder, rape and child pornography? bet they wouldn’t be so keen then, eh? as for the court(s), just shows how corrupt they have become. all privacy disappeared down the toilet!! should be ashamed for doing this sort of thing!
PoorCroissants

the site can publish whatever they want or deny too (stories,adds,whatever)

but they are scared croissants, trying to spin it in their favor

the court can publish their stuff somewhere else

oh, but they must do it :horror: – ever heard of civil disobedience?

laws aren’t cast in stone, laws aren’t dogmas, whenever a serious problem arises laws are redefined
Kanine

72–>This is completely normal, lots of coountries do it, including the UK for certain crimes.
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Not. This is not normal and I don’t know of a “lots of countries do it”.
In fact, I live in a country of South America, and my government doesn’t force to web sites hosted here to publish Nazi media propaganda or any other information that could violate the beliefs and desires of their owners.

And you know that South America is a lot more corrupt than Europe, in a general term; and I (as latin) will hope that France could be a lot better than my country in the defense of basic human rights, but this seems not being the case… Shame on you, France!!!

Another thing… You define “crime” in this specific case…

That I know; there doesn’t exist any law against the free exchange of information and culture with others with non-commercial intentions, by any medium, physical or digital; and I challenge anyone here to prove otherwise.
LaZy

These court orders are more often published in national newpapers and its purpose is for exemple (an old habit of french laws I believe).
There’s nothing wrong with this, They are not violating any fundamuntal rights since they are not telling “what” to write but just asking to “add” content in the “advert” section and paying the newspaper or whatever news website.

In fact they are just asking for some ad space to show people that you risk prosecutions if you do that. Sort of an ad for the law.
Vahron

There is nothing wrong in publishing court decisions. In the French law system, it’s supposed to be a proof that the justice works well. Everyone can access to any court decision, and they must be published in national newspapers.

In this case, the court has decided that it was appropriate to publish its decisions on Numerama. It has nothing to do with censorship, and the gouvernment has no right to tell what a website is allowed to publish or not. Besides, Numerama got a financial counterpart for this.

As strange as it looks like, everything’s fine in this case.
Kanine

81–>They are not violating any fundamuntal rights since they are not telling “what” to write but just asking to “add” content in the “advert” section and paying the newspaper or whatever news website.
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Idiot.

If an agency of government FORCES YOU to publish information against your will, because if you don’t make it then you will get punishment; then, according to your nonsense logic, there were not fundamental rights violated.

You definitely are a lunatic, if you believe all this nonsense.
hello kitty

This should act as a deterrent to amateur file sharers w/c is good.
Anon

This has got to be a joke / hoax.
FedUp

Thank you for the adresses of houses i will soon be breaking into. I do love it when personal information is fed to me by the Guberment.
Anonymous

convicted file-sharers.=27 heros to be celebrated!

Theses judges are MORONS to the power of 10 and all upercases!!
Anonymous

“Theses judges are MORONS to the power of 10 and all upercases!!”

Or the did this intentionaly against the copyright extremists?
Anonymous

What to do with 10,000 euros?

Donate this to the pirate bay!
Anonymous

We should do the same with the identity of all the music and entertainment exec we can get our hand on.

The effect will be very very different!
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tekproxy

I like this site, but there are a lot of tards that post shit like “first” here. Seriously? Is this your first day on the internet?
Annonymuse

Fuck France!

The worst country EVER!
french legal system ?

watch cnn, fox, any of that crap is already biased…
Tiak

Why not just redistribute the money back to the victi-err, convicts?…
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TC

Yes the money got out of the pocket of the convicted persons.

Redistribute ? why not .. I think Numerama got all the names, adresses and the amount of each fine (so to give a proportionnal check). Hum … just making fun out of Numerama.

The outraging thing is Numerama telling this story on its website as “The majors are handing us out 10 000″ !!!

What a way handy way from Numerama to cover their own shit !
BLOB

Not shure if this was already mentioned here(hell if I’m off to read every single comment), but this rings me as the old old law/new technology incompatibility.

Possibly there’s a chance that Numerama can go to court against the state(and win) by showing that as the medium isn’t the same as printing press, there’s no advertisement/announcement space, therefore they cannot comply with the court order.

I don’t know the French law, but what I mentined it’s logical in a democratic judicial system.
BLOB

“…old issue of old law/new technology…”, I ment.
TC

Blob,

No, matter of space is not an issue – you may find “paying” websites in France which will gladly display it all.

But they [Numerama] can go to court arguing that the media chosen to be reproduced to deliver the verdicts on their website is mentionning names, adresses, job, etc.

That is against the Law !

Article 7 on Computing & Privacy Rights in French Law … so rightly so that French Gvt Websites respect that Law.

Obviously, as I wrote just before, Numerama is heading the wrong tracks.
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none

Its no supprise to see the frenchman just giving in tho really
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Duh

I think the French court has crossed over the line here. They can’t and shouldn’t damn the convicted forever. Moreover, it may build up an urge for revenge which can be dangerous. And I’m not talking about pirates only. But then again, does murderers, molesters and other more dangerous ones are given the same fate? Not all of them are still bad after they got out of jail. Some do become good guys and some are better than good guys as they recruited by the goverment.
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BLOB

#99, TC:

The printing press has predefined spaces and pages for publicity. Those are the spaces that are used not only for publicity, but also when an identity wants (or is forced to) to make a public announcement (open letters, openning of govement contracts, etc).

Those are the same spaces that I think the court was refering to(ignorance over new tech), because I don’t see a French court having ANY power over ANY press identity to force them to use an article space to release anything. The only exception might be if that particular press identity loses a trial and is told by the court to issue a public apology to the winning party or retract of a story (wish in most cases goes in the editorial page).
TC

@ Duh

There is fact two different Courts in France.

One is for “Civil Law” with many layers and the other the “Penal/Criminal Law” for serious charges (thief, murder, rape, etc.)

It’s mandatory by Law, in the second case, that no names will be ever release by the medias (in order to get the info, you’ll have to get an appointment face to face with some guy at the Court. Even then, only a reading will be made to U : no copy.)

@ Blog

Yes you are right. In order to get some money from publication (Civil Law) you either have to have a business registered as “Legal Publisher” or in case for a newspaper to mention it all under a special page : “Legal Notices”

I think in this first ever case in France ! the Court and Numerama didn’t see it coming when obliging Majors request to go to any Web site of their choice.

Two infringements at once !
Lefa

So is this freedom of speech or what? How the fuck can a court order independent sites to publish some crap they don’t want to?! Disturbing!
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