Does BuckCherry Think The BitTorrent Community is Stupid?
Written by enigmax on July 22, 2008Some artists, bands and labels claim that their lives are ruined by their material being available on P2P networks. BuckCherry are complaining that a track from their latest album has leaked to BitTorrent. How do they complain? Via an Atlantic Records press release. I smell a rather large free-publicity rat.
Leaks of pre-release material onto the Internet are pretty normal events these days. Even the mainstream media are happy to cover the big leaks, usually while portraying file-sharers as the son of the devil. In the past many file-sharing news sites have covered such leaks of movies and music as a matter of course, but as they become more prevalent, less people report on them.
Normally the approaches of the mainstream (and the bands, artist and labels) and that of the file-sharing community are pretty much opposite. On the one hand piracy is killing everything it touches. On the other hand, the file-sharing hand, it’s something totally different – free promotion and all-important publicity for the artists.
Our regular readers will know that the relatively unknown Indiana Gregg did rather well from her recent experiences with piracy, thanks largely to The Pirate Bay, TorrentFreak and dozens of other sites. And she’s not on her own, many other artists have benefited from piracy.
Some of these people are openly happy with their ‘piracy’ successes, others complain like crazy. Interestingly (and this is an opinion piece so feel free to disagree) we now appear to have a third type of piracy complainer – the complain-like-crazy-but-secretly-love-it type.
Enter ‘BuckCherry‘. I haven’t been (un)fortunate enough to hear anything from them but according to Wikipedia they are a hard/alternative rock band. They claim to be pretty mad that a track entitled “Too Drunk…” from their latest album “Black Butterfly” has started cropping up on BitTorrent sites, way in advance of its September 15th release date. This is what the band has to say:
“Too Drunk…,” a featured track from “BLACK BUTTERFLY,” recently appeared online at a number of BitTorrent sites. Buckcherry has released an official statement regarding the song’s unscheduled arrival, declaring, “Honestly, we hate it when this s*** happens, because we want our FANS to have any new songs first.”
There is an old saying, “Least said, soonest mended“, but clearly BuckCherry have never heard of this saying or the concept, since they didn’t just comment casually on the leak, but shouted it from the rooftops in a fully-blown Atlantic Records press release. They mention the leak in the opening paragraph:
Buckcherry Reveals “BLACK BUTTERFLY”; Platinum-Certified Hard Rockers Announce New Album as “Too Drunk…” Appears Online;
…and then go on to mention the actual network (BitTorrent) in the second paragraph detailed above, which is not a particularly smart move if you’re trying to dissuade file-sharers from the inevitable free download. Adding further fuel to the already smoldering pile of suspicion is the fact that it’s possible for fans who preorder to get the “Too Drunk…” track for free.
I may be completely wrong in coming to the conclusion that BuckCherry has (cleverly?) manipulated 30 million world-wide file sharers into sampling their work through their faux displeasure in this press release. I may be wrong that Indiana Gregg is quietly enjoying all the extra publicity afforded to her by piracy.
But of course, the BitTorrent community wouldn’t fall for such a cynical publicity attempt and the file-sharing press wouldn’t fall for it either, we’re not that stupid.
Hmmmm….
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Indeed. To be fair, many of the artists who complain about piracy probably don’t really understand how it helps them. Others may be against it simply because they feel like they don’t have any control over their work (which can be scary).
All we as pirates can do is make sure we do pay for what we like. If you really got into, say, Delerium’s Karma album, buy it. Feel good in that not only did you pay the artist, but you also helped them by spreading the word through BitTorrent.
the song aint that good..
Whateva, they should stop B*tching.
Record companies doing this and blaming our @ss.
How the F*ck we get their album from their studio even that album not released.
It means, someone who works in their studio stole that song and selling and one pirate boy bought that song & released it.
Record companies should fix their security holes before blaming Pirates.
RECORD COMPANIES SHOULD f**k off ! !
Ever notice how the #1 complainers of piracy happen to be some of the least listened to music in the world?? This slut indiana Gregg, Michael Jackson, the VILLAGE PEOPLE!
Heres a concept: maybe people don’t listen to your music because you suck… period… not because we’ve taken to the keenness of screwing artists in all departments.
Who the hell are BuckCherry?
Don’t tell me, I don’t care.
Yeah – what he said…
I agree with “audacitor”. I even bought an Indie band’s merchandise. As a consumer, i should know, as much as possible about the product. We should be proud owners, not mindless spenders or feel stupid and cheated.
@4
Word!
BuckCherry? Too drunk? I wouldn’t waste my ratio on this. Go complain to the noobs at youtube or something you EMO losers.
Couldnt have put it any better myself, well done #4 (Bob Dole)
This band aint no good. fucking retards
Never heard of them. tards.
They are doing an “Indiana Gregg”.
How very original
or not.
;)
Please, oh please, oh please send a complaint to tpb that would make my day.
What’s with the names of these people? Buck Cherry, Indiana Whoever – they rip off other people’s names and complain about being ripped off? Makes no sense. Has the music world run out of original names?
Anyhow, memo to B. Cherry: If your stuff is not being shared, you are not popular, you are a loser. Only winners get shared. If your stuff is not shared, then you would not sell as many albums as you’re selling now. Case in point, I’ve never heard of B. Cherry before. So I wouldn’t buy your album. (I wouldn’t download it, either, but there you go.) If people download your album, at least they hear it. That’s better than everyone being like me and not knowing who you are.
bastards; if they took a positive approach to this I maybe would have listened, but they were asholes about it, screw them!
lol.. its on youtube, and I personaly dont like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qplBVqPhbBY
It had to be done by SOMEBODY who worked in the studio. you can’t just waltz into a studio and take the song, so it has to be an employee who leaked it. DUH!
who is BuckCherry?
BuckCherry? What? I bet they suck big time anyways, LOL.
I’ve heard that they uploaded it themselfs just to see if this new way of putting stuff out there works. and the video for the song is crappy becuz people demanded it/cuz they wanted a video quickly. great band btw
Haven’t heard of this band, but ill check it out
Based on the youtube vid it’s utter crap…
J.
So, if you suspect they are nefarious in their intent, then you should counter this by completely ignoring such press releases!
Torrents are for no0obz. FUUCK OFF!
oh buck cherry that song has been out for a while now lol i got my sample of it off a music site the day it was leaked lol these guys blow
“Honestly, we hate it when this s*** happens, because we want our FANS to have any new songs first.”
Ooooh! Like a secret club! Watta phag.
bands ‘leaking’ thier own stuff and then ‘complaining’ about it to get a bit of cheap publicity for thier upcoming album is fine with me. If it’s good it’ll be shared if not it won’t. What i don’t like is when once massive stars who are past thier prime bitching about lost revenue (think jacko, prince, elton john).
@ #17…
I watched it too and they’re not only bad and unknown, but positively geriatric. Buncha professional nobodies got together to create this super-group fronted by a well booze-cured Skeletor. Back to your passe heroin habits after this lame ploy fails.
Buckcherry blows i would never download that rubbish anyways
You don’t have to be smart to say you didn’t do it, although more than half of the bittorent community are stupid.
@enigmax
I would have phrased the title slightly differently:
“Does BuckCherry Think Filesharers are as Stupid as They Are?”
In my experience, perceived cases of “A treating B like they’re stupid” are usually just a very stupid A thinking they’re more clever than B.
Contradiction:
“because we want our FANS to have any new songs first.”
Like who the fuck else downloads the songs anyways, non-fans?
Of course it’s the fans u dumb fuck.
Go screw yourself….
Who the fuck is BuckCherry?
Wow that many people who don’t know who BuckCherry is? I haven’t listened to any of their albums since the self-titled album with the song Lit-Up, but they are an all around decent hard-rock band. They’re infinitely better than the generic sounding rock bands of these days like Nickleback.
Still its a shame they’re claiming to be anti-p2p.
@ #11
Obviously. Two torrents on TPB of the
pre-release song in question. One has
9 seeds and 0 peers, the other 6 & 0.
This reeks of a lame publicity stunt
in the same way the Indiana Gregg
incident did.
This band sucked ten years ago and they suck today. Sure they had a hit single in the 90’s BUT THATS IT.
Now theyre decrepit and old and it shows not only on their faces but in their ever increasingly shitty music.
Youre damn straight they loved this publicity because aside from this, nobody even knows they exist anymore.
So BuckCherry, i suggest you consider drinking some bleach so that you stop conributing to the process of lowering i.q.’s with your horrible, horrible music.
it’s buck cherry. give me a fucking break. platinum certified hard rockers? my skin is cringing thinking about the people that make that statement valid in their own eyes. ugh.
Hows going to download it? Fans. Who’s going to get it first? Fans. They are getting exactly what they want, and shit loads of free pubilicty to boot. Whining retards.
enigmax, you feeling okay?
They’ve had at least one fairly big album out. It’s possible that this was pulled from a radio stream or something since it’s been on air in the US. Decent band, nothing that really stands out in my book though.
Just a thought for them though:
“Honestly, we hate it when this s*** happens, because we want our FANS to have any new songs first.
Maybe your real fans DID get it first?
can someone that understand “Rock” translate that sentence into german? (Ok I take english too if your german is crappy!)
“”Honestly, we hate it when this s*** happens, because we want our FANS to have any new songs first.”"
I don’t understand that!
So the fans don’t get it first when the song appears somewhere before official release date?
Do they want to say that their fans are too stupid to use BT and that’s why the fans don’t get it first since that album is sheduled only for later so album buying fans are not the first ones obviously.
Or do they want to say that those BT using pirates can’t be their fans?
Me is confused if I do believe in the honesty of musicians and dismiss the allegation that this is just a PR action.
I truely believe those honest musicians are seriously just concerned and not in it for the quick PR! So what do they wanted to say?
Everything the entertainment industry has ever done has been smoke and mirrors. The job of a publicist is like a propaganda minister, to concoct stories that will best manipulate the mind of the public.
They know that many people will spread the news and download leaked material. Therefore they spread the news themselves and “leak” the material themselves.
It’s not hard to figure out. If only a single track of a new album “leaks”, then it was almost certainly an “authorized leak” put there by the label itself.
But if the entire album gets on P2P before it’s even in the shops, then that’s real piracy, and the police will be called to investigate.
P2P saboteur MediaDefender gets paid huge sums of money to “leak” certain non-fake tracks onto the P2P networks, and these paid-for “leaks” are a rapidly growing part of their business, as fewer and fewer of the major labels are still paying them to distribute fake files on P2P.
Too drunk to fuck ya.
so original lyrics.. then rip off Hendrix – yeah he’s dead, he can’t bitch like you lame-o pussies.
Sadly to say I bothered to look at this band on youtube… Nothing impressive, anyone else think they come across like a rip off of something like aerosmith?
Even the Bible is a copy of older regilions and mythologies… Why should we care about copyright of any of this crap?
You need to understand that a band like Buckcherry, that the media always takes stabs at due to the rounchy nature of lead vocalist Josh Todd, needs to through themselves out there like any other band does press makes awareness and bad press makes money so no Buckcherry does not think that we are stupid we think that we are smart enough to blast them for Mettalicing the early release as a shock to them c’mon fucking think about it. They want to get first billing, not 3rd under Motley Crue The buck will live through. With there release of Blaqck Butterfly after a three year ride on Crazy Bitch lets get further. So to think that they think us in the Bittorrent comunity stupid is “STUPID” we move the word as well as the files so lets face through a track o0ut there call it stolen what does everyone do “rush for it” getting shit that was not meant to go out is our goaL.
[quote] Honestly, we hate it when this s*** happens, because we want our FANS to have any new songs first.” [/quote]
Aren’t your FANS the ones who will be hearing the songs first if you put your music on filesharing? Who else do they think is listening to it?
With song titles like “Too Drunk” and “Crazy Bitch”, how good can they be anyways? Sounds like the kinda shit they play in slimy sports bars. Imbecilic macho douchebaggery set to post-grunge dreck and acdc soundalike riffs.
“Artists” like to make people believe they are so important that their “art” is being pirated. It’s all bullshit.
I love how they emphasize “fans” when they “hate when this shit happens.” I’m sure you mean customers?
After having the “pleasure” of listening to the song “Too Drunk”, I have to say. What are they complaining about?
The music was pretty much mediocre, standard wanna-be punkrock. If they’re going to complain about a leak, complain about something worth listening to.
Nice publicity stunt record companies. but we ain’t 5 you know?
I love the cocaine.
Crazy bitch.
Their only 2 hits.
Still dont know them?
Well more will now.
And BT.
Join the swarm.
Well I think they may be sincere, since why would they alienate fans in that way if they secretly approved of bit torrent? Better to come out in support of it and gain many fans who would otherwise have never heard of them and may be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
The titles of their songs are enough to tell me to avoid their crap anyway.
Its as if any less-known band needs popularity , they start their frivilous whinings… I guess they’d be even less popular if it was not for p2p networks.
TorrentFreak, I thought you guys said one of the good things about BitTorrent is the free publicity? Now you’re pissing on BuckCherry because they’re getting free publicity? Why not attack Radiohead and NIN for using the whole BitTorrent fad to their advantage?
no rafl
the point is.. we will deciede
without blowing millions of dollars every fucking time
good is good
hear hear @24
BuckCherry who now :|
“TorrentFreak, I thought you guys said one of the good things about BitTorrent is the free publicity? Now you’re pissing on BuckCherry because they’re getting free publicity? Why not attack Radiohead and NIN for using the whole BitTorrent fad to their advantage?”
Well, first of all, the post was a bit of fun. Secondly, of course – one of the good things IS the free publicity but where NIN embraced file-sharers and actually acknowledged the benefits in public, BuckCherry chose to take the benefits but still complain about file-sharing.
That’s the difference :)
Note that I still wrote the article, and they STILL got their free publicity so i’m not coming down too hard on them ;)
Maybe we have some more on this story soon…..
nin and rad can set up a web page and pay me to take it
and.. it’s all good
oook so bittorrent users arent fans?
theres not 2 braincells between any of them.
go kill yourself, your wasting my air.
Those guys are a joke. THat last song they got on the radio (years ago) was irritating as hell. Screw them, and the bankrupt culture they promote.
slow news day?
Lol! BuckCherry probably leaked it themselves for some attention. The bands a total SINNNNNNNNK! Nothing but a bunch of wanna be rock stars with no talent. Ill eat my own ass if BuckCherry ever release a song worth a listen.
Buckcherry is a great band, and this new track is actually killer. I intend to buy the album when it comes out, but I do agree that this torrent-bitching press release is ridiculous, especially since they’re secretly not actually bitching.
I never heard of BuckCherry before, but now I know that I won’t listen to them, ever.
Fuck you BuckCherry.
“Honestly, we hate it when this s*** happens, because we want our FANS to have any new songs first.” Do they not realize that their fans are the ones d/l it first?
Buckcherry and Indiana Gregg
Never even heard of ‘em
Heard Too Drunk .. It Sucks and spolied my mood .. now trying crazy bitch
Vdo Of Crazy Bitch Reminded me of a porno clip i saw
#yls# SAID “Sadly to say I bothered to look at this band on youtube….Even the Bible is a copy of older regilions and mythologies…”
Quit posing as some armchair intellectual. You actually looked up “Buck Cherry” on youtube (and I agree, it IS sad that you did. Get laid much?). Astounding, how you manage to mix that into waxing ecstatic on your faux theology, you dickless turd.
maybe they should clean up in-house and plug all their leaks? seems like some of their employees are the ones they have to worry about most…
^ idiot
I think all this anti-piracy advertisements that the entertainment industry is putting out these days is actually backfiring on them. I mean, when you tell a little kid, “Don’t touch that!” What do they immediately want to do? They want to touch that!
And when BuckCherry is complaining about their song being pirated, they just let a bunch of people know they can get it for free.
I never would have heard of these assholes if it weren’t for this article.
I see a lot of thought went into their song titles.
*** BREAKING NEWS ***
I just some more info on the songs not yet available on P2P:
Track 4: “I wish it would rain cum”
“I love cum. I fucking love cum. I’m a faggot that loves cum. (then some amateur riffing)I love cum. I fucking love cum. I’m a queer that loves cum. (then some more amateur riffing) I wish it would rain cum. I wish it would rain cum. I’m a crazy tatooed faggot that loves cum. (ending with very basic acoustic guitar strumming)”
That song might go Top 40 :)
crazy bitch was the dumbest song ever. im glad i dont pay for buckcherrys crap
sluts.
Too durnk to psot porplrey…
BuckCherry might’ve faked being upset about the “Leak” of his song to bittorrent. I think he’s the one who did it. Like I said in one of my other posts, normal people can’t just waltz into a studio and take a song.
READ THIS ARTICLE!
http://www.zeropaid.com/spam/9646/Buckcherry+Faking+Track+Leak+to+BitTorrent%3F
Buckcherry (and particularly that poser-assed Steven Tyler wannabe of a lead singer) is the biggest coked-out joke to ever suck the taint of an L.A. record company executive.
This group is a talentless collection of shitty bar band rejects and cocaine addled strut-junkies.
They seem to make music that appeals to strippers mainly, but only the REALLY dumb ones, the REALLY,REALLY dumb ones.
The real breaking news is that somebody listens to Buckcherry.
jeez, they are so early 90s.
Who would want to pirate this shit?
They look like a bunch of retarded LA rockers who finally got their ‘big break’ at 40 and are desperate to make it work – or else it’s curtains.
Abusing the good name of pirates in the process! Shame on them.
The lyrics are really obnoxious too. Not shocking, just annoying and so entirely derivative. So they heard the Dead Kennedys? they are as fucking old as the Dead Kennedys…
Song is lit up
Not i love the cocaine
the torrent community is more of collection of bitchy childish twits now than ever before. Hats off to Buckcherry for milking the torrent hype for what little it’s worth.
Don’t like em? Blog about how elite your torrenting lifestlye is over their ‘crappy music’.. fuckin nerds.. hahahaha
I agree with the article, but Buckcherry (especially its older stuff) is actually a decent band.
buckCherry is a rather crude rip-off of the successful and influential singer Chuck Berry.
I am slightly tempted to check them out but that is what they want so i will resist the temptation.
Response to “iHATEnerds”
you have made no sense whatsoever
and your post reeks of a sad individual who likes to believe that he has something valuable to contribute, but sadly, that is not the case.
you believe that the filesharing community is dominated by nerds.
i’m sorry to dissapoint you but P2P filesharing is perhaps the most user friendly internet activity in existance after email and web browsing. not in the nerd domain by a long shot.
but wait…………maybe you are mentally retarded and don’t understand it so you vent your anger by labelling them as nerds.
ok now i understand where you are coming from.
oh and i nearly forgot
hahahaha
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