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Download Portals Reject YouTube Converter Over Piracy Concerns

Last month Google issued warnings to the owners of websites and software which allow users to copy YouTube videos. Now, the developer of RipTunes has discovered that this anti-copying policy has now been carried over to many of the large downloading portals including Download.com and Softpedia. Shockingly, however, Brothersoft is still willing to host the software, but only when the developer pays up.

Last month one of the web’s largest YouTube conversion sites was hit with threats from Google. YouTube-MP3, a site with more than 1.3 million daily visitors, was threatened with legal action over its service that converts YouTube videos into audio downloads.

Soon it became apparent that many YouTube tools had also received similar threats. It is assumed that, after ignoring these services for years, Google has now started to crack down on them because the music industry is worried that these might be used to “pirate” music.

And indeed, two days after the news broke the RIAA asked CNET to remove YouTube ripping software from Download.com for this very reason. While CNET reportedly refused to remove any software, something appears to have changed behind the scenes at the major download portals.

This week TorrentFreak was contacted by Stuart who spent months developing RipTunes, a brand new and multi-functional YouTube ripper. RipTunes allows people to search for music videos on YouTube, convert these into MP3s, and import these tracks into iTunes if they wish.

To promote his free software, Stuart decided to submit RipTunes to some of the largest download portals on the Internet including Download.com, Brothersoft and Softpedia. However, this was easier said than done, as it turns out that YouTube rippers are no longer welcome at these sites.

Softpedia was perhaps the most honest in their rejection. A response from the support team informed Stuart that his application had been rejected because of its ability to download YouTube videos. While there are still plenty of YouTube downloaders available on Softpedia, new applications are no longer welcome.

According to the email seen by TorrentFreak, these applications “infringe on Google’s copyright.” The fact that RipTunes is specifically targeted at music downloads doesn’t seem to play a role in the rejection.

“Unfortunately, your application encourages users to download YouTube videos to their computers, which is an infringement of Google’s copyright over those clips. This type of behavior is not allowed for applications listed on Softpedia, therefore we cannot list RipTunes – YouTube to MP3 Converter on our website.”

Stuart’s next attempt was to submit his application to CNET’s Download.com. Here, the RipTunes developer hit a brick wall. Download.com rejected the YouTube ripper, but instead of giving an explanation they simply deleted the developer’s profile. Not once, not twice, but several times.

At Softonic, Tucows, Snapfiles and Fileforum, Stuart got a similar treatment. No explanation was given as to why the application had been rejected by any of these sites.

The most interesting response came from Brothersoft. Initially it appeared that YouTube ripping software is a no go there as well.

“For now, we can’t approve the software which is YouTube related. I am sorry for that.”

However, a day later Brothersoft’s employee came back to Stuart with some good news. Apparently, Brothersoft does allow YouTube ripping software but only if the developers commit cash and sign up for a Pay Per Download (PPD) campaign.

“After the discussion with my management, I would like to tell you what I can do for you.

I can only ask the editors here to approve your software once we confirm your charge for your PPD campaign :) Otherwise, we can’t persuade the editors here and manager to give an exclusive approval to your product. Thanks for your understanding.”

Stuart was baffled by this offer but appreciated the honesty.

“I’ve found their email to be quite refreshing in their honesty, it’s not every day that you receive a point-blank bribe request in your inbox. But personal amusement aside; their action is still infuriating since I published my application free of charge and not only will I not make a single dime off it. I actually ended up paying a lot of money to develop it,” he told TorrentFreak.

The end result is, however, that Stuart has no option to promote his application on any of the major download portals.

It wouldn’t be a surprise that the rejections are the result of either pressure from the music labels or Google, to stop the distribution of these tools. According to Stuart, Google’s stance makes little sense. If Google really wanted to prevent people from downloading and ripping videos, they shouldn’t make it so easy in the first place.

“It is common knowledge on how to download videos directly from YouTube. For HTML5 videos the video source is directly linked on the video page, all the videos themselves are being cached on the browser and they are directly accessible through the end-user file system. There are countless free tools available for downloading YouTube videos,” he says.

“More importantly, if Google really wanted to stop users from downloading their videos they could simply move to a secure streaming server such as RTMP, which is commonly used by many online video sites such as Hulu, that prevent the direct access / download of their streams,” Stuart adds.

For the music labels on the other hand, it is no surprise that they are wary of YouTube rippers. The major labels make millions of dollars each month from advertisements on YouTube videos. When people download and convert the videos, this revenue goes away.

Whether the RIAA and Google will be succesful in their quest against YouTube converters remains to be seen. For now all the major download portals are still littered with them. And RipTunes? Until the RIAA or Google knocks on its doors it can still be downloaded through its own website.

Update: Brothersoft sent us the following statement.

“Because of Google’s policy,Brothersoft can’t approve software related to Youtube. And Brothersoft is still following this policy. Owing to negligence of Brothersoft,there exist some softwares which are youtube-related.However,Brothersoft has already removed thoes softwares last week.And we promise the same situation won’t happen again.”

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  • http://twitter.com/MAFIAAFire MAFIAAFire

    Hey Anonymous, if you guys read this would you kindly send another thank you note to the people at the RIAA?

    Thanks in advance ;)

    • thedude321

      Just the thought of doing something against the industry is making people sh*t in their pants. When did they become God?? I mean seriously…they just have too much influence…and even over tech giants?? This is just absurd.

      • http://twitter.com/MAFIAAFire MAFIAAFire

        “It’s darkest before the dawn”

      • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

        In America we call them “laws” – and no, Google’s not above them.

        • Timo

          fuck your fascism state laws.. from europe.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          Aaaaand that’s why Europe is a shitty place to live, thank you.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

           @3a782e902127c137577921a873815946:disqus Fascism is more akin to European Socialism, but nice try!

        • Vertigo Blond

          In America it’s called “$” and YES, Google is above them all!
          In Europe it’s called “euro” and YES, Google is above them all!
          In Japan… trust you got it by now… 

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

           @bf241a79550cfab5eb7e72545297cb15:disqus Yes, we have laws that protect those that make money.  Also, the sky is blue.

        • I Heart Yankee Jay

          I thought in your country you just paid the politicians to make whatever ‘laws’ that the rich people wanted to enable their corporations to make higher profits. If you think that’s something you feel the need to defend, then more power to your elbow my friend.

          Europe, despite being tainted by some of the muck from your country, seems to be a much less shitty place to live. This is because they tend to value the individual *slightly, and I mean slightly* more than your pile of fetid shite.

          You can bang the stars and stripes drum as much as you want, after all it’s been indoctrined into you from an early age so we can cut you some slack there, but dont be too hasty in critisizing others without truly understanding what a rats anus it is that you live in.

        • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

          @Kunu:disqus What you really mean is “state backed monopoly”.

          Aka. Fascism.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

           @3004a549a9ff9a1c64d821868ec12f00:disqus Hehe, right – I guess that explains why so many Americans are immigrating to Europe.  Wait…

        • Spencer greff

          I understand the america hate, but by no means support it. And yeah, it seems like Google is covering their asses. But the company itself has made it clear that the copyright industry is out of control in recent years. They unfortunately are publicly traded – so what a press representative says really doesn’t mean much.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

           @google-92c605579c041eced2357781f8f233d7:disqus I hope you’re not saying I’m hating on America.

          And yeah, I agree – Google has a motive for disliking copyright law.  Copyright laws throw a wrench in their clockwork. 

          It’s kind of incredible how much Google gets away with, when you think about it.  Like Youtube for instance – I can get any song I want off of Youtube – it’s just as free as a torrent.  Yet no real litigation has been brought to bear on Google. 

          Free information and media is in Google’s best interest because it brings in ad revenue (exactly the thing that torrent hosts go to jail for). 

          Hmm, maybe Google IS above the law… 

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/OVL7ZVGYF27VDINLMQTBSIFUYE Funhh

          Jay, I wish you’d pick a side on this issue.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

           @yahoo-OVL7ZVGYF27VDINLMQTBSIFUYE:disqus Well, I’m kind of on my OWN side here.  I’m stuck in the middle of this nebulous copyright battle/ war just like the rest of you.  This is so out of our hands – all we can do is sit back and watch it play out.  It’s kind of like politics – you pick a side, sure, but that doesn’t mean you have to agree with everything your side says.  That would be silly.

          I tend to lean towards support of copyright, but I DO NOT support corruption or cheating.  Copyrights need to be reformed in a major way, too.  Most of this mess we’re in now is because there’s no good way to enforce copyright law.  No reform will strike a perfect balance, though – in some way our civil liberties will be violated, and in other ways we’ll be more free.    

    • Gear Mentation

      Is Anontune relevant here?

      • Eva

        More than relevant I’d say. Like MegaBox, a potential competitor to YouTube?

    • FreeBSD

      hope they do.

    • JordanKratz

       +1
      And please send a Thank You note to the MPAA as well.
      Better yet outing their dirty laundry would be a great idea.

    • Gkiefferjfk2 [JFKMusic]

       One more superb reason to switch to Ubuntu Linux as that OS still has their MOVGRAB-DL YouTube Movie & MP3 downloader FREEWARE still online…

  • BanReee

    OK wow now that totally annoys me dude. Seriously lol.
    Anon-Full.tk 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    Its a bit rich Google pulling a stunt like this considering so much of youtube’s content is pirated/unlicensed.

    Also of concern is that much of the content hosted, the uploader/rights holder may be quite happy for it to be copied.

    This is yet another example of guns dont kill people, people do, or ban all cars as they are used in crime.

    • Guest

      For Youtube to make money from advertising on the site with does have pirated/unlicensed content reminds me of the similarity of Megaupload making money from advertising on their site and having pirated/unlicensed material on its site. Both companies comply with DMCA notices and take down and remove links to offending material thought this and yet Youtube does not get the FBI storming through its offices and taking down the site.

      • Guest

        YouTube allows copyright holders to claim ownership and then the ad income goes to them. MegaUpload offered no such option. These downloaders prevent the copyright holder from being paid. While I’m all for it when that copyright holder is a MAFIA troll, there are independent artists out there with stuff on YouTube, and I’d prefer for them to not be ripped.

        • Guest

          When MegaBox launches hopefully it will award the artists that sign up with the same principles that youtube does with giving them the ad income generated by the ads on the website and therefore will be operating similar in what youtube does etc. in principle. I do feel that the entertainment/music industry will do everything to make certain that Megabox does not launch because they fear that they will loose competition and money to Megabox. As long as Megabox is run the same principle as Youtube with giving all artists etc. an income generated from the ad income then there will be nothing illegal in what Megabox does. If it is good enough for the likes of youtube to do this then it should be ok for Megabox and other companies to do exactly the same and if the entertainment/music industry hate/don’t like what Megabox or other companies are going to do the same as what youtube is doing then that is their own sour grapes.

    • StevO

       Its unfortunate that once it is uploaded to youtube it becomes MORE You Tubes property, unless removed by up loader.

  • Colin Carr

    Just flagged BanReee’s spam.
    DO NOT REPLY THE POST! 

    • FakeElections

       I think that is a real website.. He wasn’t Spamming
      http://www.torproject.org

      • Guest

        Yeah right…stupid spammer.

        • John Spartan

          torproject is a real website, you fucking retards, it is used by lots of people that are effected by broad censorship.

        • ItsNotParanoia

          Tor is one of the last great hopes for a free internet – download Tails, save it to a spare USB, and hide it well.

          One day you’ll thank me.

  • 9JordanMiller2

    I do have one question I have the youtube to mp3 converter right now.
    And I can download the video in 320kbs.
    What does this output?
    And is there anyway to change it?

    • Guest

      It outputs to a crappy 124kbps. There are no settings. 

  • DavidXanatos

    Put the tool on sourceforge, and the MAFIAA can go STFU

  • FakeElections

    One rule for some another rule for others.. Google needs to be sued. they take the piss to much. the Internet’s on its way to being ruined anyways so i couldn’t care they they get sued now…

  • Hello Democracy

    youtube converter sites ABSOLUTELY LEGAL..when u watch an audio clip or video its ALREADY stored in your web browser’s cache….that means its ALREADY in your pc..and when u access ur browser’s cache ….ta-da ….u have that file..

    what will they do next? they will make next-gen no-cache web browsers? ban all media converters such as flv to mp3?

    seriously MAFIAA is a joke…..

    • Xander Delores

      yeah, cache is no different than a ripper, they should rename the youtube ripper as some type of flash ripper tool, and if that doesn’t work a website ripper tool and if that doesn’t work some kind of cache saving tool

      • anon

         why not just rephrase the description like cache saver, saves browser cashed files to help you easy load and access content you frequently visit. check box options to save files ie: .html .jpg .gif .mov .flv .doc .pdf ect…… and then title something simple as cachesaver

    • Guest

      Come on man. Why don’t you dumbasses understand some of the simple things? Youtube relies on viewers watching ads to keep paying for the petabytes of bandwidth users consume every month. Even the views are worth something as many labels pay Youtube for views. All these sites do is waste Youtube’s bandwidth and offer nothing in return. 

      Infact I would go as far as to say that they are getting rich off Google’s back since most of these leeching sites have ads off which they make money.

      • Anyone

        after you downloaded the video you might no longer be generating ad-revenue, but you are also not costing  them bandwidth anymore

        so where is the problem?

        • Guest

          Dumb comment of the week:

          “after you downloaded the video you might no longer be generating
          ad-revenue, but you are also not costing  them bandwidth anymore”

          The tool bypasses ads and uses YouTube’s bandwidth whenever you search or download a video. If 50,000 people download RipTunes that is 50,000 people downloading videos with Google getting nothing in return.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/OVL7ZVGYF27VDINLMQTBSIFUYE Funhh

          Guest,
          “The tool bypasses ads and uses YouTube’s bandwidth whenever you search or download a video.”

          So, what does google’s ad-blocker plug-in do?

      • Hello Democracy

        ripping mp3 from youtube DOESN’T MEAN you won’t watch that video again…you having audio not video….and again even if u have video maybe u need to comment or share ur thoughts so u need to view youtube….also u need full address of video in order to have audio….so having audio doesnt mean you wont use youtube several times…..so ur theory is joke as MAFIAA….

      • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

        Google really painted themselves into a corner when they bought Youtube.  It’s not profitable, but it’s too integrated into Google to dismantle and sell, and it’s too popular to dump.  Can you imagine the public firestorm if people suddenly lost access to all their videos? 

        As an online video monopoly, the failure of Youtube would start a scramble of smaller companies to bid for their users.  The death of Youtube could be a good thing. 

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/OVL7ZVGYF27VDINLMQTBSIFUYE Funhh

          Companies do many non-profitable things in the short run to maximize profits in the long run. YT is one such thing. Nothing new here.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        And let me get this straight; You are advocating banning the digital equivalent of screwdrivers and hammers because one of the uses they have is illegal?

        Nice try. If there’s anyone here who needs to understand the fundamentals it would be you.

    • http://regretzero.tk/ RegretZero

      You realize it’s not possible to show you a video without downloading it to your computer in some way or another right?

    • Gkiefferjfk2 [JFKMusic]

      Actually…. All the websites could still carry all the YouTube downloader software IF they should decide to do it the newsgroup way of doing things… Yenc code or XXencode/XXdecode or Base 64/32 way…. [everything shows up as ascii text] which is legal in 99% of countries.

  • http://dsaintradioblog.wordpress.com/ Maxwell Knight

    This is really a shame and stupid. Mostly stupid. Like Hello Democracy said, all the youtube rippers for browsers do is make it faster to grab the file from the cache. Hell, the only thing peple are doing now is looking for rippers because the general public doesn’t know about them.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OVL7ZVGYF27VDINLMQTBSIFUYE Funhh

      Mozilla Firefox has a great plug in. 
      VLC does a wonderful job. Etc. Etc.

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  • Mwhahaha

    This is another case of third parties running scared, not wishing to be dragged into costly & crippling lawsuits against the RIAA, just for, in this case, hosting someone’s software. 
    After the article the other day showing how labels legally crippled (even legit) music sites, who can blame the software sites from deciding it’s not worth their time or money. There’s definitely been a recent trend of these cases, where instead of going directly after the source of pirated material, labels are going after all the peripheral sites & tools which people use to indulge in their piracy, they do it in a bid to just make things just slightly more difficult. An example of this would be the UK ISP tpb ban.

    It really is time for all these businesses and groups to band together and fight back rather than be taken down or censored one at a time.

  • Anonymous

    this seems to me like an exercise where Google is trying to please the entertainment industries and take heat off of itself. in all honesty though, had this crap been fought against from day one, there wouldn’t be the problems everyone is seeing now. it wont be long before there will be no downloading of any kind unless it is from a site run be or approved by those industries. even search engines are falling over themselves to make sure they are not caught up in any law suit. as usual, the people suffer and lose out, being forced to pay more than once for the same content, just because it is in another form or because it is wanted on a different device. nothing else bought is given these multi-payment rights  and music and movies shouldn’t have them either. we are too late to stop the onslaught now. regardless of the ‘one site shuts and 10 opens’ statement, it ain’t going to be allowed to continue!

    • Guest

      All Google is doing is extending there day of execution by the entertainment industry. When all these rippers/websites have all been removed from the internet the only one left having copyrighted material on their website would be youtube and the Hollywood industry will then up taking Youtube to make absolutely certain of no one hosting copyright material.

  • Andrew me

    If YouTube was paying the content creator and not the labels i would not hesitate to support them, but as we all know the labels do not pay a fair share of the income from the content to creators so they can stfu,

    Google needs to approach the artists and let them decide what they want, forget the labels and there stupid copyright laws. In most cases the internet was not available when music agreements were made so they artists have the copyright for any internet distribution. Leave the greedy labels out of it.

    That being said if i want to show someone a YouTube video i don’t want to have to download it again and again, 1 simple download and be done with it. Surely YouTube can implement this and include a little advertising before the video plays , thereby getting more ad revenue and satisfying the needs of the consumer, but hey i forget the consumer is not important so we have to do things for ourselves with the tools we can find all over the internet.

    • Guest

      Google pays anyone who wants to have a partnership with them through Adsense. You don’t need to be a label to get paid. I know many of my friends who are not artists or anything, just ordinary folks uploading random but interesting videos. Even they get money from Youtube for all the views their videos get. 

      If the artists won’t approach, whose fault is it? We already know artists like Dan Bull are earning decent money off Youtube. So others need to dump their labels and independently start a partnership with Youtube.

    • Anyone

      that’s partly happening in Germany, where the GEMA (local MAFIAA) is blocking every content they remotely own on youtube

      some bands then have signed different deals with Google and are now available again in Germany

  • Anon

    It seems to me the government that regulates and the industry that provides will eventually take the internet back over time through legislation and constant accountability to surveillance, like the highway/speeding model. 

    None of this was even a gleam in the eye of industry when Napster launched. They were getting rich and asleep until then. Napster woke them up and Napster/Fanning begged for it, so industry brought it to Napster. Now they are bringing it to the entire network, one case and one government at a time. 

    Consider that piracy was the first real-to-scale challenge to an internet that could be lawful and self-regulate. Now government knows the internet won’t stay lawful without the same observance as is established IRL. History will record that piracy was the beginning of the end for the free and private internet we enjoyed back in the day.

    • The World Needs More Lawyers

      Yup, it’s a good time to be a lawyer, and if there’s one section of
      society that deserves a good payday, it’s lawyers. Good on ‘em I say.
      Hip hip…. anyone?

  • Anonymous

    There are RTMP downloaders out there, you know. I’ve gotten shows off of Hulu. Kinda low-quality, though.

    • Rekrul

       I tried a couple RTMP downloaders and could never get them to work on Hulu.

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  • Rekrul

    “Unfortunately, your application encourages users to download YouTube videos to their computers, which is an infringement of Google’s copyright over those clips.”

    Gee, Google owns the copyright on all the videos?

    For HTML5 videos the video source is directly linked on the video page

    I just took a look at the source for one of Google’s pages using the HTML5 player, and I couldn’t find a direct link to the video.

    all the videos themselves are being cached on the browser and they are directly accessible through the end-user file system.

    I used to do that on older versions of Firefox. Unfortunately the current versions create dozens if not hundreds of sub-directories, making it virtually impossible to find anything. Especially since Firefox doesn’t store any cache files under their original names.

    • Andi

       You could do a *.* search and do a limitation from 3mb to 10mb – depending on th files size (cashed video)

  • IDM

     Internet download manager.

  • Jeff Bekcer

    https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl

    youtube-dl –extract-audio [youtube video]

    it’s not hard to rip it yourself.

    if i make a site that runs youtube-dl for others THEN it is a crime??

    challenge accepted.

  • Violated0

    LOL “Infringe Google’s copyright”

    While broadcasters have desired copyright control over the media they play for many years this so far has always been rejected as the terrible idea it is. So the copyright owner in YouTube’s case is usually the uploader and Google has no lawful right to say how people can use that media.

    In such regards most video uploaders would not mind if people want to download their videos or to rip their audio. Google instead of welcoming some democratic input into the subject hears the voice of only the RIAA.

    We will have to see if Google can successfully bully the market or not.

    • TraceLoop

      You have a very good point here. It’s like when the band got upset a company that it didn’t even lend it’s rights to was taking downloaders of their music to court. Google didn’t always own YouTube, so all early videos were handed over whether the person liked it or not.

      Honestly, Google should make an opt in ‘Download this!’ button for people who -want- people to download their content, and then suddenly it’s fixed. Oh wait, how do they know if legitimate videos are being opted in and not legal ones? They won’t always, even with their filters. So I guess that’s not happening if they can’t be sure of it.

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  • Guest

    If you want to download Youtube videos, get the Easy Youtube Video Downloader extension for Firefox.  Google isn’t going to be able to threaten Mozilla because even the RIAA and MPAA can’t get a Firefox extension removed.  That particular extension can rip just the audio or the entire video and it can do it in high quality.

    Downloading a Youtube video is a violation of Youtube’s TOS, but Youtube certainly doesn’t own the copyrights for most of the videos on their site.  Pretty much everything worthwhile on Youtube is copyrighted and usually being shared without the permission of the copyright holder.  The non-copyrighted videos on Youtube are pretty much all complete garbage that isn’t worth your time.

    • StevO

       the problem isnt not being able to do it. The problem is they are trying to stop people from making MORE programs that can do it.

  • http://www.petetong.net/ Blah

    I wonder if they will try and sue Internet Explorer, Firefox, Netscape, Chrome because to watch the youtube video it downloads the file into your cache? OMG INTERNET PIRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Rowen

     Interesting. I keep receiving “Trojan alert” from my antivirus when trying to download from original site. So I pass.

  • Mainroy

    I use firefox and this plugin  http://netvideohunter.com

  • Sassha

    Look folks, this is part of a much bigger picture.  It’s about keeping the public uninformed. The cartel cannot stand against 7 billion knowledgeable people. How many of you are familiar with the LIBOR scandal? The worlds top banks have all been caught in a pyramid scheme that has defrauded the public worldwide to the tune of 800 trillion.  As I type this, this story is disappearing off the public radar. The lamestream media is complicit. To make my actual point…youtube is one of the only places that people can get together and compare notes and join together.  It is not about piracy, that is just used as a tool to accomplish cabal agenda.  Make your hair stand up? Good. Now I’ll help you with that…stand together, wake up the person next to you. That is all it will take. Everyone can do something, so, do it!! Good energy and enlightenment to all.

    • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

       +1 for mentioning the LIBOR scandal.  That shit goes to the top here in Washington.

    • Eva

      Wanna see how deep the rabbit hole goes? Read

      “The network of global corporate control” by Stefania Vitali,
      James B. Glattfelder,
      Stefano Battiston

      For some reason disqusting will not let me link to the paper…

  • Alyssa Blindy

    Why doesn’t MafiaaFire or someone like them make a website where people can upload and share their apps that are forbidden by other big download sites?
    Or why doesn’t the developer of RipTunes upload his software to the pirate bay and distribute and promote it from there?
    Or why doesn’t he make it open source and then put it on source forge; nothing was said about them rejecting a youtube converter.
    Or what about other file hoisters?
    There are plenty of options for distribution and promotion of his application.

  • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

    I simply go to a website that provides the same service – no middleman file download site required.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/TINKTINKDOTORG Tinktink Dotorg

     Man, the RIAA is really grasping at straws here. Before you know it it will be illegal to share an ear phone with a friend.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      They were trying to do that at one time, make it so that anytime you play music ‘outside your home’ it’s classed as a public performance and if more than 3 people are in your home, it’s a public performance.

    • WasterOfTime

      Can’t we hit them with their own weapons? Considering they’re likely to do the same things we do, punish them with their own laws.

      If not them, then their kids (seeing as kids tend to do this kind of stuff behind their backs). If they don’t care about us, then they’ll definitely care about their family, if not them, then they’re truly monsters through and through.

      Would be worth a shot. They take cheap shots like this, we can return the favor.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0120a5509de8970c Mikko

    Google owns copyright to all videos uploaded to youtube ?

  • GUEST

    Put it up on Megacloud(.com) or Dropbox.

    Also, I’m wondering about this article. The guy never intended to make money on it, but it cost him a lot to develop it…Why would you make a program that doesn’t make money? Doesn’t make sense.

    • Eva

      For help the betterment of mankind as a whole. Freedom for the masses?

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  • The Dude

    Just use videohelper for firefox to download videos and don’t hassle with youtube download sites, they suck.

    • http://twitter.com/houghton0 Michael Houghton

       Yup, this is the single best way. If you want to convert a downloaded video to mp3 just open it with Audacity. It might take you a couple minutes to set it up but it’s completely free and has no crapware attached.

  • Manual

    I have come across some secure youtube videos which simply cannot be downloaded
    And one of the few ways is to record (e.g. replay video capture)

    You wont be able to quickly convert the following YouTube video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6p1Gm9F-t0

    • http://twitter.com/houghton0 Michael Houghton

       Use rtmpexplorer… http://www.mediafire.com/?98y07smr4vkfhc3

      Simply go to the page using rtmpexplorer.exe and don’t close the dos window that pops up, when the movie starts streaming it will start downloading it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/J2QISSISU4SFVZA4TDXMGHWKCI Katie

    There are RTMP downloaders out there, you know. I’ve gotten shows off of Hulu. Kinda low-quality, though.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/J2QISSISU4SFVZA4TDXMGHWKCI Katie

    Google owns copyright to all videos uploaded to youtube ?
    there is advertising on youtube videos? adblock plus user

  • theonlyone

    Pours gasoline into a bottle.
    Inserts a cotton rag.
    Shakes bottle.
    Lights rag on fire.
    Bottle thrown at youtube.
    You know the rest.
     

  • Dia

    For once I think it’s pretty reasonable to prevent this kind of use. Any dev is a fool to think that everything will go smoothly if you make a program or a website that does this. It undermines the whole youtube business model.

  • Liam089

    I downloaded RIPTUNES from the site you link to and KASPERSKY SAYS THAT IT IS A VIRUS. PLEASE DELETE THE LINK TO IT.

  • Guest

    Google’s “Don’t be evil” has been dead for a long time  but now it seems like being evil is the official new policy.
    Google seems quite happy to be the MAFIAA’s lapdog now, they’ll fight when it concerns them but they are slowly integrating themselves with the old media guard.

    And the others that accept google’s and the RIAA’s methods are no better.
    “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)

    At times like this it becomes clear how meaningful megaupload was, an honest and free weblocker that wasn’t willing to let bullies terrorize it to remove legitimate content like applications.

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  • Bert Ritto

    I download YT videos everyday through Firefox with a simple Greasemonkey script. LOL at all these retarded software programs and website services. What a joke. And ROFLLMAO at spending months on something that you know breaches Google’s terms.

  • Desu1

    Put it up on a torrent!

  • GUEST

    Excuse me Google. Every time we watch a video in YouTube we download it and it’s saved on our computer (although it is deleted later) even we want or not, even with Youtube ripper software or not. So WHAT’S YOUR PROBLEM?

  • Pirate

    I largely agree with most TF articles, but this one was terrible.

    “If Google really wanted to prevent people from downloading and ripping
    videos, they shouldn’t make it so easy in the first place.”

    Really? If Google doesn’t want people pirating their service they should encrypt their video streams and play them in some proprietary protected program that will be supported on three platforms. Hello! That’s called DRM. Google should not add DRM to YouTube.

    Responsible pirates should.
    A. Save the video in their cache after they have watched the ads on YouTube.
    B. Download services that download directly from YouTube should display the ads that you would have seen while you are downloading.

    As for RipTunes its not a pirate friendly program.
    A. It should display the ads that you would have watched when downloading something from YouTube.
    B. It should give you a link to download songs in higher quality if you like them. You know…support the artists.

    Piracy isn’t about getting things for free. Piracy is about:
    () Having access to the same products at the same time as everyone else.
    () Being able to evaluate something before we buy it. Nobody likes a pig in a poke.
    () Buying it for a reasonable price. No hiding behind copyrights to give you a monopoly and charge unfair prices.
    () Using it the way we want after we buy it. No DRM telling us we can’t play it on another device or modify it to suit our needs.
    () Ending the corruption prevents us from achieving the above.

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    Google and it’s recently acquired Youtube can quite simply fuck off Stuart (the RipTunes dev) because their stupid, anti-internet, greed-based actions will merely force people away from these sites. 

    After all, that’s what happens in the internet when people find obstacles deliberately put-up in front of them – we simply route around it.

    For example, for vids I already use and PREFER to use http://vimeo.com/ rather than Youtube.

    And for searches I bypass Google by using any and all of these -
    https://ixquick.com/
    http://uk.yahoo.com/ (as I’m UK-based)
    and,
    https://duckduckgo.com/?t=

    But what I don’t quite understand is why folks would even want to bother ripping the mp3 from a vid.  Why not just snatch the torrent via our beloved PirateBay, isoHunt, etc?

  • Bimbadaboum

    FFS, open source the code and share it on GitHub. What’s the point of sharing it for free (as in free beer) if it’s not open source. Is there some hidden bullshit we shouldn’t be aware of?

    Best way to spread a malware/whatever? Come up with some fake copyright related scandals, explain how you’ve been forbidden from spreading your software, conclude by giving the url of your website where the software is available for download.

    Open source your software. Censoring an .exe is easy, censoring hundreds of lines of C+/whatever the prog. language is impossible.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RXKKBKKUTHOEALMONWW3GE2RPA John Sorger

    Who even needs youtube-mp3.com? Any audio capture software will do the exact same thing and youtube can’t do a fucking thing about it. 

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  • Garinades

    ?ome on guys, who needs another youtube to mp3 ripper with it’s awful audio quality. softpedia doesn’t accept youtube rippers for long, nothing new here. very nice trick of the developer to PR on google/youtube2mp3.org agonizing battle

  • Jipperjapper

    Thanks…never even knew of YouTube-MP3…will now probably use it…ahhh yes “The Streisand Effect” in FULL effect!…;o

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  • http://www.facebook.com/th3badwolf Jay Gauthier

    Post your software on TPB,promote here,problem solved.

  • Ipman

    “Spent months to develop”
    ha ha ha.

    Great GPL Source code for YouTube downloading and audio demuxing has been available for months, looks like Stuart got too late in the game and is looking for free publicity to get his ass sued.

    way to go on marketing your software as a piracy inducing tool you moron, so many legal uses and you market it as a free music download tool, where were you when grokster lost, and you even go as far as comparing your software to limewire, facepalm.

    you should get some advice from an ip attorney, you are setting yourself up son.

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  • Jeff Tank

    With exception to the technology used, whats the difference between this and the VCR recording off a TV or a radio broadcast being recorded onto a cassette tape or a DVR recording off a TV.  Same scenario, different technology.

  • JD

    Fuck Google! we need a new and independent browser that doesn’t censure finds and doesn’t work with the government, this is the core problem of this case too! Same with youtube, make a PirateTube or something what shows everything.

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