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Sir Elton John Joins Anti-Piracy Lobby

Over the past months the UK government has tried to tackle the issue of online piracy. This has resulted in a proposal from Lord Mandelson, who plans to disconnect alleged file sharers without any judicial process. His plans are backed by several musicians, Sir Elton John being the latest to join the lobby.

eltonAfter “copyright hypocrite” Lily Allen attacked a group of artists who opposed the Government’s disconnection plans, a whole slew of musicians came out of the closet backing tougher anti-piracy legislation. Sir Elton John is one of the latest to join.

“For what it is worth, I am of the view that the unchecked proliferation of illegal downloading [even on a 'non-commercial' basis] will have a seriously detrimental effect on musicians, and particularly young musicians and those composers who are not performing artists,” Sir Elton John just wrote to the UK government.

Similar to the other artists who spoke out in favor of the new plans, Sir Elton John pays little attention to the fact that the new legislation will be targeted at their own fans. People who love music and demand access to unlimited music for a fair price.

The music industry has declared war against their main source of revenue. Instead of finding ways to please the changing demands of music fans in the digital era, they have chosen to defend their old models and punish the fans instead.

To make things even more absurd, implementing anti-piracy plans proposed by the government will cost ISPs almost twice as much as the total losses that are (allegedly) suffered by the music industry.

Luckily there is also a group of artist that is more in touch with their fans. United in the Featured Artist Coalition, musicians including Robbie Williams, Billy Bragg, Radiohead, Iron Maiden and Travis have spoken out against disconnecting file-sharers because it will be ineffective, without solving the real problem.

“The Featured Artists Coalition is opposed to copyright infringement, but we recognise that, if technology allows people to access music for free, they will take advantage. The next generation of music fans may no longer want to pay for music, but they are still hungry to hear it. The challenge to the industry is to find ways to monetise their behaviour,” they say.

The Coalition, heavily criticized by Lily Allen, further say that the music industry is trying to blame ISPs for a ‘problem’ that is not as easily solved as it would first appear. According to one of its prominent members Billy Bragg, the labels fear new business models because they might lose their distribution monopoly.

John Elton clearly thinks otherwise, and he is right on time with his comments. The UK consultation on Lord Mandelson’s plans ends next week, after which the government will decide what steps to take to combat the unauthorized downloading of copyrighted files online.

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  • CRK

    He doesn’t have enough money to buy that big dildo he saw today?
    What a shame :))

  • behen chooth

    john elton? whos he then?

  • Ebumboo

    No anti-gay slurs needed, #1.

    He’s entitled to his opinion.

    The fact his, his opinion is irrelevant. The paradigm has shifted. Music is free, right now, for everyone … The dam has broken. India and China have proliferating Torrent sites. Game over. Millions use P2P. Soon, billions.

  • Anonymous

    @2
    you dont wanna know lol

  • Eagle

    A fat,bad tempered queer,that’s who!

  • redmarine

    Like the image.

  • Biff Loman

    #2, He’s someone who hasn’t put out a good album since 1975.

  • behen chooth

    i think u mis understand, in the last paragraph…

    John Elton clearly thinks otherwise, and he is right on time with his comments.

    I think his name is Elton John, not the other way round….

  • Kwork

    Dame Elton’s last truly great album was Captain Jack in 1975. Seems that he’s become quite a grouchy girl in recent times. I can’t say that this surprises me all that much. After running out of cash and friends, accepting money from the record labels probably didn’t seem like such a bad idea. It probably can’t hurt her career too much anymore since he’s not released a 5 star album in 34 years.

  • in.cog.nito

    like that retard doesn’t have enough money.

  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    This coming from a man… if you can call him that who spends upto 1.5 million pounds a month:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1024745.stm

  • Sendaii

    This man is completely out of touch. Not so long ago, he wanted the internet shut down completely, he seemed to think that it would make music better:

    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070802/011353.shtml

    Easy to talk sh*t when you have as record label backing you while you make millions, eh Elton? Millions of artists like myself who have no label backing them regard the internet and P2P as an indispensable tool to get our music out there.

  • Anon

    P2P is an incredible tool.

    and so is HE!!!!

    FAC FTW.

  • ROLF

    ROFL, he’s gay anyway :)

    well..another lowlife, from the past..

  • Anonymous

    A composer I personally know publishes ALL available recordings of his work for all to download freely and listen on his personal website.

    Surprisingly enough, he’s not living in the ghetto.

  • Zush

    It’s OK, Ellie. Nobody likes your music anyway.

  • questioneer

    Can someone explain to me why anyone would want to steal this shower of shit’s work in the first place!?

  • Drake3

    You know, if the industries really are losing all the money they claim, how can they afford to pay for all the weapons they are using in this Copyright War?

    The amount of money they would need to have is obscene.

  • calihusler

    P2P FTW! imma dl his music right now lol :P

  • Unsir

    For someone stupid enough to accept the title of ‘Sir’, I expect nothing less

  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    HAHAHA Good link #12

    A few quotes from this moron:

    “Hopefully the next movement in music will tear down the internet.”

    “I do think it would be an incredible experiment to shut down the whole internet for five years and see what sort of art is produced over that span.”

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article251007.ece

  • microfreaks

    My thoughts are if the goverment cannot stop it, tax it. for example: If my isp came to me and said “are you a file sharer and if so we will add $10.00 a month to your bill to be spread out to the musicians group and you can download as much as you like no questions asked”. I would do it in a heartbeat. This makes sense to me.

  • 1337 h8ter

    anti gay slurs are only euphemisms

  • michael8124

    “…..a whole slew of musicians came out of the closet backing tougher anti-piracy legislation. Sir Elton John is one of the latest to join.”

    Torrent Freak is a little off about this. Elton John came out of the closet a looooong time ago. Although, A+ to Torrent Freak for trying to make a funny. lol

  • insertnamehere

    Quiet worrying news as i’m from the UK, I guess there will be ways to hide away from the disconnection squad, like subscribing to Sapidshare, Megaspload, or if I do get disconnected i guess i’ll have to pay through the nose for one of those dongle thingys. Total bollox..

  • djnforce9

    @michael8124: Agreed. Only a moron who is completely out of touch with current events and the real world would suggest shutting down the internet for the sake of “music”.

    Why do I think he said that? Probably because the internet wasn’t around during his childhood and he’s sulking over how things “change”. Another oldtimer.

  • Anonymous

    “I do think it would be an incredible experiment to shut down the whole internet for five years and see what sort of art is produced over that span.”

    And I do think it would be a good experiment to abolish copyright for, say, ten years, and figure out who stays in the creative industries. Those who create for their soul will definitely stay. Those who know how to make money off their creations without copyright will also stay. Entropy of the universe will be lower and low entropy is good!

    Abolishing copyright might be too radical, but setting it to an initial span of 10 years with mandatory registration and copyright extensions for a fee payable to the government would be a good start.

  • madguy

    take your crappy music & shove it up your already stretched-out ass

  • guys

    Music industry and/or anti-piracy outfits exploit artists’ technophobic knowledge. Elton John doesn’t even know what is and how stirring up his wallet. He thinks that these outfits know what they’re doing, filling up his pockets. And that’s what they’re exploiting on famous people. Using them. Getting famous names behind them = more chance to get new draconian laws passed.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s shut down the internet and effectively shatter every government body on the face of this earth, collapse every financial system on the planet, and throw everyone back to the stone age.

  • michael8124

    @26 djnforce9

    “@michael8124: Agreed. Only a moron who is completely out of touch with current events and the real world would suggest shutting down the internet for the sake of “music”.

    Why do I think he said that? Probably because the internet wasn’t around during his childhood and he’s sulking over how things “change”. Another oldtimer.”

    “Coming out of the closet” is a term used to mean someone admits they are gay. That’s actually what i was referring to. I guess Elton John doesn’t want anybody to pirate his gay pride music.

  • Menoch

    He’ll become their #1 spokesmen till something happens & he ends up changing sides.

  • Memnoch

    He’ll become their #1 spokesmen till something happens & he ends up changing sides.

  • Threefiguremini

    Billy Bragg = Legend

  • Dingo

    Why does it seem that moneyhungry ALREADY POPULAR musicians want to kill piracy, and that underground-bands not?

  • Shame on www.eZee.se

    What’s up with all the ignorant homophobe comments? And you too, http://www.eZee.se? I would have thought you were better than that. I guess ignorance and intolerance knows no borders. “Progressive” Swedes, my a$$.

    @7 kristo – You sir, are a flaming douchebag.

  • World Struggle for the Internet!

    World War III: the internet pirates vs the music industry!

  • Anonymous

    35: “HAI GUYS CALLING A GAY MAN GAY IS HOMOPHOBIC AND IGNORANT”

    Keep your bullshit in your own ass, seriously. We don’t care.

  • Anonymous

    nobody needs to buy music anymore you can use somthing like utube downloader and store up the music vids and then put the audio on to disc to listen to in the car etc, there is not one song or music video you can not watch or listen to for free on any number of free sites like utube, you only buy the odd album for the top quality sound, but you are now getting high def sound quality on some free music streaming sites,this lot are back in the 70,s with there tech nohow GOD THEY NEED TO WAKE UP TO THE 21ST CENTURY!!! I BET SOME OF THEM STILL LISTEN TO PLASTIC ROUND FLAT THINGS THAT GO AT 45 RPM LOL!!!

  • Reasoned Mind

    Yes. Lily is a “slut”. Blunt is a “faggot” and now more homophobic comments about a legendary musician (and recipient of the Order of the British Empire), complete with a photograph shopped to a pig.

    It’s gratifying when you complain that no one in authority takes you seriously.

  • 4nd

    “For what it is worth, I am of the view that the unchecked proliferation of illegal downloading [even on a 'non-commercial' basis] will have a seriously detrimental effect on musicians, and particularly young musicians and those composers who are not performing artists,” Sir Elton John just wrote to the UK government.

    Yet another artist regurgitating the industry’s BS. Why is this guy even complaining? I imagine he’s quite rich- does he not have enough for a third platinum yacht or something?

  • 4nd

    Also, I agree that everyone childishly calling him gay needs to sit and spin.

  • sit an spin

    he is gay!

  • :D

    ================

    WHAT A PIG! LOL!

    ================

  • Abraham

    I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that they spend so much time and money on this issue. it’s bananas.

  • Anon

    Yeah, because we all know elton john is the authority on everything…

  • Anonymous

    DIPSHIT GAY PIG! Die.

  • Alf

    El Maricon de Elton. Que se joda.

  • RATM

    Elton John can go and get his stomach pumped!

  • Barrington.

    Come on, He needs more money to spend on tasteless tacky shit.

    This is a guy who spends £293,000 a year on flowers remember.

  • Gordon

    @22: The problem with that is distribution. You can’t trust the MAFIAA to actually hand it out. They’d like keep 90% or more for themselves as some kind of “management fee”.

  • h

    Unfortunately, more “artists” will be join the anti-pirate brigade due to the fact they are already under the employment of record labels.

    Record labels will pile pressure on artists, telling them that they won’t help them as much if they won’t help them sort things out, and they will ultimately agree to it.

    This is just the type of unscrupulous behaviour that they do.

    At the end of the day, these people don’t want to have to go up against the power that is feeding it, even if they find their methods wrong, which I’m sure a lot of them do.

    They just want to get paid and enjoy their life, and that’s it. It doesn’t matter if a few people get fucked over.

    Many people cried out in protest when huge fines were slapped onto people for filesharing, yet how many of them actually left their labels or even brought it up again afterwards?

    No, they will cave to the pressure.

  • Gordon

    With P2P and personal web sites, there is no need for taxes to pay for the music. Artists could release all music over P2P, and simply include their personal site, with a link to donate money, in an ID3/APE tag of the audio tracks. Cut out the middleman, and the middleman’s whores (Lily Allen), and you’re left with good music going straight from artist to listener, and good money going straight from listener to artist.

  • Wherm

    The guy in the picture looks like one of my friends…Lol

  • lol wtf

    who cares about what some tinkerbell fruitcake thinks?

    He is a HAS been.. step aside plzkthnxbai.

  • dave

    ’46 Sep 22, 2009 at 23:00 by Anonymous

    DIPSHIT GAY PIG! Die.’

    Look everybody! Anonymous (yup) is trying to communicate!

  • hot sex gary

    Why does everybody imply that piracy “will” damage the industry? Napster came out in 1999, and music piracy has been strong ever since. There is no more damage that “will” be done, and the fact that absolutely nothing has changed in the music industry shows not only how slow they are to respond to change, but also how little “damage” piracy actually does.

  • Cujo

    just like lilly ,, but rich

  • diarRIAA

    Well congratulations, Elton. You’ve just lost a cold hard cash paying fan. I used to buy your disks, go to your concerts and buy your merchandise because I always support artists by spending money on them.

    Well thanks to your BIG fat ignorant mouth, I won’t spend another dime on you and I STRONGLY urge others to follow suit.

    Clearly, Elton is just another DIVA-QUEEN who can not resist thinking that SHE is the center of the universe. This stunned bitch was not talking to Princess Diana before she died, and no doubt it was because Elton was refusing to accept that Diana was always the center of publicity.

    And the pig had the gall to go to her funeral. Truly disgusting.

    Elton, please – and I mean this from the bottom of my heart – just phuck off and die now.

  • Cujo

    elton has got lots a cash ,, goes around crapin on everyone ;S

  • Cirrus

    Because Elton John is interested in helping young musicians make it. Yeah LoL

    P2P is such a lovely mechanism.

  • Cujo

    right !! we been had!!

  • Hellmark

    The problem is, that none of these people realize that without a judicial oversight, people can be unfairly disconnected after being unjustly accused.

  • bjeezus

    anti-piracy is now officially gay

  • Bill Boner

    I’m still mesmerized by how perfect that picture is for the article.

    For all I care Lilly Allen, James Blunt, and Elton John can all go die in a fire.

  • me

    It’s true………Nobody cares what an auld shirt lifter thinks. :p

  • No-name

    So all we talk about in these anti-piracy campaings is music piracy? That means we can download movies freely then lmao

  • pbp

    He was on his way out already when he made money off Lady Di, and he knows it, hence his decision.

  • Reasoned Pork

    Forget that picture … it’s my bad side. :\

  • #YLS#

    another artist without the facts or knowledge to make a descision about anything…

    I think it’s easy to say that the anti-disconnection artists are for most part considered more intelligent people, althought I’m supprised to hear robbie williams would be landed in that group tbh.

  • SWARM

    hes got some female lip around his yahoo these days ,, reborn!! ;)

  • Jeremy Clarkson

    Elton John, you sir, can suck my dic… er, wait.. nevermind.

    And on that bombshell – Goodnight!

  • D2LV

    first Lily Allen, now this!? ROFL!! this fight is defiantly ours!

  • Clive

    Fuck off, #35. This isn’t about homosexuality.

    You sound like the sort who’d support *anything*, even the reintroduction of the slave trade, as long as it’s primped in a “gay rights” banner.

  • Hans Pandeya

    I live literally around the corner from where he got married to his poof boyfriend. Guess I should of taken a pot shot at him with an egg or some shit when I had the chance :/ What a cocksucker.

  • How Funny…

    Another so called artist that i’ll be torrenting & sharing so people don’t have to pay…

    Great photo by the way :0)

    Recipient of the Order of the British Empire…
    He must be important then, of course he paid for that retarded mind, but everything is based on money now isn’t it….

    Your comments are so gloriously stupid :0)

  • Jigsy

    The Music Industry is killing piracy, and it’s annoying!

  • Elvis

    Who’s Elton John?

  • Retarded Mind

    @74

    WRONG

    The Music Industry is killing itself.

  • Reasoned Mind

    @ How Funny
    “but everything is based on money now isn’t it….”

    Certainly a large part of everything, yes. All over the world. But money can’t buy everything and I don’t think the MBE’s are up for sale even if you do.

    And my comments here only sound gloriously stupid for about a year or so. And then, remarkably, they come true.

  • M-RES

    @#12 Sendaii: You and me too mate. The labels don’t like that we can compete with their business model on almost equal terms so they want to shut us down. In any other industry this would be seen as anti-competitive business practices, but for some reason the entertainment giants are getting away with this sh*t. They’re trying to stop us from making a living by blaming our chosen distribution method for their own failings in business. The major labels are killing music and stifling creativity.

  • dingdong

    you cheap littil basterds cant u afford the 79pence on itunes dick heads

  • hardy har

    screw you ding dong, oh wait, I have thats right your actually elton’s bitch. Yeah I saw you walking behind him with your hand in his back pocket jailhouse style. And down with ‘sir licks the queens arse’ elton john. I hope he’s happy fleecing the sheeple and spending a million pounds a month on luxuries.

  • screaming electron

    @3 Agreed. Game over. Once third world countries a re doing it there’s no stopping.

  • Brian P

    Does Elton John even still release new music? Has he done so in the last 20 years? If he has, I sure haven’t heard any of it, and I don’t think I know anyone who has. Realistically, his opinion is completely irrelevant; he doesn’t have a stake in this. He will have absolutely no trouble living the rest of his natural life in luxury on residuals, licensing, and sales of his concert tickets where he’ll play his hits from 30+ years ago. Piracy will have zero affect on the quality of his life either way. Who cares what he thinks about the Internet or music piracy?

  • Hans Pandeya

    @79 Obvious troll is obvious.

  • pfft.

    It would really strengthen our cause if we tried to call people on their ignorant bullshit opinions and not on their weight (see: Lily Allen), sexual orientation (see: Elton John), etc. Just sayin’ :/

  • Aredt

    You mean Sir FAG Elton John?

  • Bobe-On

    Thanks, Elt, for helping or at least inspiring us dig your industry’s grave.

    Someone bounce a truffle off his nose for me.

  • So Sad

    I do think it would be an incredible experiment if the whole world would stop using electricity the whole internet for five years and see what sort of art is produced over that span.

  • heh

    Full of yourself aren’t you Reasoned?

    Foolish.. pride before a fall.

  • loled!!

    whoe ever listens to his damn gay music…. stupid whore….

  • How Funny…

    @ retarded mind

    Of course MBE’s are up for sale when corruption reigns supreme, your a pirate so you should know.

    Oh my, what a grand noise maker you are, the pirate bay is still up & running moron

    Again gloriously stupid :0)

  • At last

    Ever notice the musicians who join this anti-piracy shit are those that create bad music?

    And the ones who create good music are the ones that are against this bullshit?

    There is such balance in nature.

  • How Funny…

    @ At last

    Exactly, what’s even funnier is they don’t even write their own music, just finger puppets for the soulless corporate songwriters.

    But then again thats what eltons into so….. :0)

  • yes.

    Wow, thanks for the homophobia, guys. It really makes people care about your opinion when you act like a twat.

  • tonyj

    I think my parents used to listen to his music.

  • Phoenix

    aw that G@y P1G is out of his cage

  • Clive

    It is an apt picture, isn’t it? Even down to the JPEG artifacts that make him look like he forgot to shave.

  • Anonymous

    what does him being gay have to do with anything. you’re all twats.

  • Elton John is Gay

    LOL look at that pic, “oink! oink!” “if your a good little piggy the big bad wolf (music industry) will rape your ass till it bleeds.”

  • Hai

    Look at this response: http://idontwanttochangetheworld.blogspot.com/2009/09/james-allan-glasvegas.html

    Who the fuck is he, to talk like this?:O

  • Lilysaidmoo

    Lily Allen is a douchebag for starting this all. I bet the big guys will play along with what the greedy artists want – more court-cases, more ISP letters and tougher piracy laws. Uhh, I think the UK Pirate Party got here just in time, they’ve got my vote.

    I reckon we start a twitter hashtag ‘Lily Allen is a money-grabbing whore’ or something.

  • Anonymous
  • prodigydancer

    Dear Sir Elton,

    We’re sorry to inform you that we’re not currently planning to shut down the Internet for five years. Instead we urge you to shut down yourself permanently for the sake of music and humanity.

    - Well-wishers

  • Anonymous

    I hate Lily Allen more than i did before. That’s an achievement.

  • Anonymous

    U gay bashers are stoopid hypocrites.

  • nul

    Long time ago he really made great music. He really was Someone.

    Now he´s just a fat fuck.

  • haha

    nice pic!

  • lverona

    Elton John is of course a talented musician, but it doesn’t mean that his opinion on technology is of any relevance. He is not an IT analyst, is he? In fact, he himself said he does not use the technology.

    Shutting down the Internet is absurd and shows his absolute ignorance of what Internet and computers are. To him Internet is a large blogging service with evil crackers “stealing” his music from the internets and making a fortune on it.

    Also, want it or not, but a lot of decent people who do not do much thinking on the matter, oppose “illegal” copying. My sister and my parents, for instance. They are good people, but they do not approve of me supporting torrents – they believe it is stealing. Although they themselves do not buy much of the stuff and actually USE torrents themselves.

    This happens because the matter is very delicate and mixed in with stereotypes and misinformation. And so people start applying double standards – they download all they want, never paying a dime, but when you actually voice it – that copying files should be legal – they oppose it.

    When people download and copy files to one another – they do not believe that they are doing something wrong. They do not understand that the copyright law basically tells them that they cannot do that – they think that supporting torrents means something else – something more worse, although they probably won’t be able to say what. Like, selling discs? I don’t know.

    So the problem is simple – everyone I know who opposes file copying believes that doing so results in us not supporting musicians, in “stealing”, that musicians naively sit there at home and wait everyone to pay for files instead of just downloading them freely and copying to one another.

    Most musicians are not like that. What we do in the Internet has nothing to do with the support of musicians.

    And the only solution so far is to show that copying is so readily available that there should be no link between musician’s profits and file copying. And if the link is indeed there today – that it is bad management of the publishers which instead of providing musicians with a normal business model spend their money on all the crap like trying to restrict file copying.

  • damn it were fucked

    @#2

    He’s the gay guy that suck at singing.

  • anon

    Does Elton not spend about 20 times the average UK yearly wage on flowers each year? sounds like he is suffering.

  • United Hackers Association

    so its musicians now against the fans and customers, GEE elton hows that gonna work for ya
    OK everyone go grab all his music and put one set on cdr then take and toss it at your local parliament

    someone then toss some gas on it cause the musicans are full a hot air like this bozos head

  • Jimmy Reisen

    Wow, pretty sad. Always figured him to be a pretty decent guy. Guess I was way off.

    Ralph
    http://www.online-privacy.us.tc

  • Reasoned Mind

    @40
    What the deuce!!? That is not me writing that!

    I absolutely love Elton John, in a very… manly sense. I’ve printed out the picture on this blog and it shall do me great justice on my lonely nights! I contemplate sneaking into the John’s estate, strangle David Furnish in his sleep and wear his face like a mask. Mmmm yeah, that’s the ticket!

  • johannesfaust

    I mean, what the hell does it matter he is gay or not?…he could be the manest man in the world and still be a f***ing copyrigth supporter…I just don´t give a f***k he´s a sir, that´s really a cr*p…

  • LadyDie

    Jon Ellton? Isn’t he “England’s Dose”?

  • Boo

    nasty gay Elton

  • #35

    #74 Sep 23, 2009 at 02:38 by Clive

    “Fuck off, #35. This isn’t about homosexuality.”

    That was exactly my point, moron. Learn to read AND comprehend. ;)

  • TheTruth

    IMHO the gay comments are appropriate. Ellton John attacks us for what we are: modern people who use the technology of the 21st century. So we can attack him for what he is: a fat poof. He even wants to criminalize us. So far I haven’t read any comment that demands being gay should be punishable by law.

  • knux

    Adds his name to my music I will never buy list… Wait, his name has been put on here, 74 times already… O well, here goes 75!

  • sonic

    The problem with all these Celebritys getting in the news is that everyone seems to be losing sight of the facts. All the studies on file sharing agree that it is only responsible (if at all) for a tiny proportion of the reduction of sales in the music industry. You can find the studies on line please read them yourself!!!

    Some studies even suggest that file sharing has a positive impact. Even the most damming report only suggests that file sharing is responsible for 30% reduction in sales ( while most studies suggest the impact is only 5%). So the studies suggest that over 70% of the decline in the music industry (possibly up to 100%) is due to other factors.

    The industry is in decline, jobs will be lost Fact. Clamping down on file sharing isn’t going to save them as file sharing isn’t responsible for the majority of the decline in the industry.

    Wasting tax payers money on legislation which will only have a tiny impact on sales would harm the industry even more. Higher public spending + more expensive internet access = less money in Joe publics pocket and less record sales

  • Preacher

    Who the hell downloads his crap music anyway?

  • Anonymous

    I want to know how much money have they been spending on this crap. How much money have they been spending on government to be there bitches an how much money have they spent on BS court cases.

  • Whatever

    A bit late but….

    He’s just another hypocrit.
    (must be a spelling error in that).

    Google “elton john website” turns up:
    “www.eltonjohn.com” (official website)

    Now if he wants to close down the internet he should start with his own site !

  • me

    Elton John used to do good music. But what he’ll be remembered for will be his fighting on the dark side in the Copyright Wars. We, the internets, will make sure of that. Darth Elton John has just stained his reputation (some more).

  • aww

    aww #3 did #1 hit a nerve in your swollen ass ? on the internet nobody cares about fags hell even in real life you can go walking down california and call every fag a dick munching cock gobbling quere so please stop stepping on other people’s right of freedom of speech ok?

  • paul

    what a way to show how much you ‘love music’ with that photoshopped picture you used torrentfreak.

    also a big, big fuck you to all the people spouting homophobic and insulting garbage on here.

    sad to be associated with you as part of the same p2p community.

  • GC

    You should aim to criticise his stance on the issues, not his sexuality. If you immediately reach for insults it detracts from the debate.

  • Tragic

    Why is anyone surprised or outraged by this?

    The man has made his life from what he does, he doesn’t care about loosing a few shillings or whatever the fcuk currency it is he uses

    He cares about maintaining a system that allows talented people become popular

    Unless somebody puts forward a model that guarantees the same outcomes as the present one, the longer this game of cat & mouse will continue.

  • The Damascian

    another faggot joins the party ! good he joined their side cuz i dont like those homos near me or my torrents LOL

  • The Damascian

    i also belive its the time to digup his old albums start seeding …just for the hell of it

  • Top Predator.

    @128 Tragic= Reasoned Mind (to name one)(Pathetic recording industry parasite and Troll.)

    “He cares about maintaining a system that allows talented people become popular.

    Unless somebody puts forward a model that guarantees the same outcomes as the present one, the longer this game of cat & mouse will continue.”

    I know people with real talent (not RIAA BS such as this old ugly pederast of Elton John and his crappy songs with stupid lyrics) who could not make a living because of all the parasites infesting the music industry.

    And for the Cat & mouse game, this will not continue because the wolves are coming in pack to kill the fat cats and the rats who serve them.

    Tell your bosses it is time to run!

  • Top Predator.

    “are you a file sharer and if so we will add $10.00 a month to your bill to be spread out to the musicians group and you can download as much as you like no questions asked”. I would do it in a heartbeat. This makes sense to me.”

    Not me. Not until at least the 7 corporations of entertaiment parasites and criminals get out feet first.

    You see we don’t negotiate with terrorists we kill them.

    Then we can talk.

  • Top Predator.

    “Google “elton john website” turns up:
    “www.eltonjohn.com” (official website)

    Now if he wants to close down the internet he should start with his own site !”

    OK.

  • David

    it is funny to see that those who are downloaded the least are the one who complain the most about file sharing!

  • st_sebastian

    can someone please remove the homophobic shit.It degrades this site and detracts from the argument

  • Cougar

    Pathetic faggot queer

  • paul

    >136

    the homophonic shit is in the torrentfreak article if you count that insulting and totally irrelevant photoshop. i wouldn’t count on it being removed.

    still waiting for my first comment to be ‘approved by moderators’ , oh well…

  • St. George of Cappadocia

    @135 …Can someone please remove the posts that serve to censor others? It degrades this site and detracts from the argument…

    Since my above request is censorship – nevermind.

    Let everyone say what they want otherwise there’s no discussion just censorship.

  • PMC

    @128

    Photoshopped? I’ve met Ellton in person and he looked exactly like that… well, except some cum oozing from the corner of his mouth …

  • Bobe-On

    While we’re talking about the gay slurs; I really wish people would stop insulting my a$$hole. They should call people they dislike something else. ;D

  • Bobe-On

    I’ve absent mindedly gone to work on more than a few occasions with dried pussy juice on my face.
    It wouldn’t faze me if someone called me a cuntlicker.

    To the gay folks on here: You don’t have to be gay to like rainbows. There. I said it. ;)

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  • Dizzy

    Funny that all the older musicians say that the downloading hurts the young musician especially, while most young musicians, when smart, actually use bittorrent to become famous…

  • Clive

    @the nameless idiot posting at Sep 23, 2009 at 17:32:

    The topic of discussion is Elton John’s latest demand to bolster his half billion pound bank balance by tearing great chunks out of the Internet. Refusal to tear great chunks out of the Internet would have a seriously detrimental effect, says Sir Elton, and he has the bank statements to prove it.

    At least, that was the topic, until you and your fellow cry-babies showed up, wailing, bellowing and stamping your feet, insisting that any criticism, no matter the reason, of anyone who just so happens to be homosexual is ^V.

    (Sorry for the ctrl-V: I haven’t set up my computer to paste the usual tantrum of hysterical clichés that your sort scream to shout down debate, every single time.)

    Now run along and have a wank. We have matters of great import to consider, and you’d only become frightfully confused.

  • anonymouse

    thought elton had more sense than this. he didn’t give a flying f**k when he was an up and coming artist about copies of his music being sold on market stalles. he was concerned with the fact that the music was getting to more and more people so his popularity increased in leaps and bounds. like so many artists that are big names today, he has forgotten who it was that put him there and how it was done. bloody hypocrit!!!

  • AJIBOK

    Elton John: I heard his songs many times on radio and TV with advertising. I bought TVs, radios, cable, 45 rpm records, 8 track tapes, reel to reel tapes, albums, geeatest hits albums, any anthologies; thousands of artists as well, then thousands again for CDs! Our living space is getting smaller and smaller so get rid of 8 tracks, LPs, and 45s. I am a well organized collector, but finding song selections by hunting through everything is made possible by using lists of titles. Usually these media items are flawed when obtained from the internet, so after a search any quality reproduction must come from a purchased disc. Discs from the public library are usually scratched and only by ripping to media player can you play some of the seections. Do you suppose E.J. has a computer? Follow the Yellow Brook Road. Didn’t the rights expire on that phrase?

  • Davo

    If only I could have given him more of my money…

  • Anonymous

    Please stop it with the homophobic irrelevance , it would make no difference if he were strait,
    I was once homophobic I hated anyone who was different IE – gay lesbian not the right skin shade and so on This all changed some years back and this is how, please allow me to go of topic for a wile – one day I got ill I had pains in my middle but did not know why I thought it mite be indigestion so I ignored it that night I was rushed to hospital I did not know it at the time but I had Peritonitis my life was in the balance for some hours, the surgeon came to see me the next day and told me how very lucky I had been he said he had help from one of the top men in this field another surgeon and if it had not been for him being in the area at the time I new what he meant , I also got to meet that surgeon,
    A couple of years later I was driving taxis between jobs “a friend had a taxi business” I needed the cash and it turned out to be fun as well!! I was given a pick up from a gay club I thought no! no! no! but it was my job so I had to go I was waiting there grinding my teeth telling myself not to say anything homophobic when to my astonishment out of that club came that top specialist surgeon with is boyfriend, I was in shock I could not say anything no words came to my mouth I drove them to there house he said thank you to me and went to pay me I could hardly see his hand in the dark I said no thank you for my life he stopped a moment and then remembered me he said your welcome, I felt what a fool I am.

  • fight_the_tyranny

    Anachronistic dinosaur.

  • Ted

    Greedy bastard.

  • policeman2

    f@g f4g f@g f4g f@g f4g ! bitch

  • ThumpPump

    I have been composing music for about 15 years now. Most of it is available for free (donations accepted – 20% to charity) on an internet site that I pay for. One of my songs became a minor club hit in China and was downloaded about 500 times PER DAY for over a year. How much money did I make on this song which “sold” over 180,000 copies? ZERO! Negative if you consider hosting fees.

    In fact some of the heaviest traffic came for several sites that re-indexed my the song in a way that used my bandwidth but never funnelled the downloader to my website where they could see the “plea” for donations, listen to my other songs, order a CD, etc etc.

    The sites were in Chinese and I had to have a screen capture translated…my name was mentioned on only one of the sites and the bands name was not mentioned at all. I suppose that anyone who became a fan could track down my website through the song title, and perhaps that has happened. I really don’t know as the site is not set up to receive feedback comments.

    Can you see how my situation relates to “illegal downloading”? My music is available for free (donations accepted though) and has been enjoyed by a lot of people. Probably none of these people would have heard any of it if there was no internet. So the internet has allowed me to share my creations with others – thats all though. I can not see how I could earn a cent, except maybe if I join the IPOD world (something I know nothing about but someone gets a buck per download, probably Apple computers).

    I do not “tour” – I do not think that my techtronic-trance-”hip-no-hop” lends itself to that, so there is not cash coming in that way. So when do I get paid? I love making music and that is/was my sole modivation while I was working. Now that I am not, and I am pretty broke, I would not mind seeing some cash coming in. P2P or just straight FTP puts money into the hands of the ISPs and that is all. If I did not freely release my music from the start over the an internet website, I would definitely think of “free-downloading” as stealing. In fact, I do – because it is. I do it myself. MAJOR. But I am consoled by the fact that after purchasing 500+ vinyl albums at $10 each, the record companies came out with CDs and instantly pumped the price from $10 to $20 per album. The doubled it without incurring any real extra costs. The DOUBLED the price of an Album OVERNIGHT! So, as I reached about 350 CDs, napster came along and all the rest happened. I did not, and do not, feel guilty downloading (steeling) this music. I especially do not feel any guilt about downloading music that I have already paid for via CD or Vinyl purchase.

    Unfortunately, it is true that there is a demographic of musicians who, in the past (pre P2P), would have earned a decent income through modest album sales but today, because of P2P, would make almost nothing from sales and would have to tour if they wished to be able to feed themselves.

    Early REM, Alice in Chains, Sex Pistols, Janes Addiction, etc. would have been in that catagory. Who knows, there may not have been a second album from any of the above. So there is some harm being done, especially to musicians who, for whatever reason, do not tour.

    So much more music by so many more bands are available for anyone for free – good exposure for the up-and-coming? Perhaps, but the day will come when you could have millions of fans listening to tens of millions of songs and not earn a single penny for your efforts. Is it time to incorporate COKE ads in the background of every song? Maybe……

    As far as Elton John is concerned, he definitely does not need to make any more money. Perhaps a tax on touring revenues of bands that have “made it” like U2, Elton John, Rolling Stones, Radiohead, that would go towards subsidizing the “making it (but not there yet)” bands/musicians would be an answer.

    Already I can see the day when television programming becomes uneconomical. I turned on my TV only once in the last year and yet I have watched a solid 10 hrs per week of Supernatural, True Blood, Dexter, etc. No commercials. No revenue from this guy. As more and more folks simply download commercial-free content, the $$$ to justify creating these shows will evaporate. It will happen quickly too. About the only solution I can see is for adverts to be loaded right into the shows. Coke signs, car ads, … all of it as an integral part of the shows we watch. Skip the ad and you miss the show. The only way. AND THEY BETTER DO THIS QUICK as I am sure the growth of P2P people will be exponential in the coming years. Either that, or stomped on hard by every government with outright IP denial on countries that do not “fall in line”.

    OH, it almost goes without saying that those who pepper their comments with biggoted statements only serve to bring down the legitimacy of the cause they are trying to support. It tends to make the users of this forum seem like a bunch of crack pots whose opinions are radical and not worthy of serious contemplation (or is it another form of discrimination to judge the entire forum group by the antisocial comments made by the minority of participants)… and round and round and round we go…yes, there is irony here.

    “Judge not this forum by the off-color statements made by the few, but by the character reflected by the content of the statements made by the character of the many.”

    “In spite of Reginald Dwight,
    this is not the end of the fight, but sadly it just might,
    if he is judged to be right,
    and wouldn’t that just bite,
    if the vote went his way,
    just because he is gay,
    and some fools without heart,
    made that non-issue a big part,
    and they blew the case apart.
    And this sad attempt at a rhyme
    Is not worth a dime
    So please dont you think
    That my songs like this stink
    I just need another drink
    Chase another elephant so pink
    But really it is true
    Booze is not the issue
    Its the time of the day
    past 4 am and I must lay
    myself down on a bed
    before I pass out and break my head
    On the monitor screen
    or the keyboard machine
    oh God I cant even rhyme
    and its way past bed time
    I have no clever way
    to call it a day
    So I will just end it and say
    Wait,its Sunday, its time to pray
    Nope,not something I would say
    But I really cant stay
    So I will now go away
    But if you hate what I say
    I didnt mean any of it, okay
    Just dont hunt me down
    Dont run me to ground
    Besides I carry a big gun
    Its not always for fun
    Its really my right arm
    straight from the farm
    days and nights of labor
    and arm wrestling with the neighbor
    Oh god will I ever stop writing
    Its really starting to be biting
    okay I will go now
    this time I know how

    I will just say ‘ciao’

    and so it is time
    to sign off

    PS. go ahead and roast
    this forum post
    go cry to the host
    That my post should be made toast
    because you are the most
    and I am just a ghost
    and you can even out rhyme me
    see?
    ha ha he he
    Wait one minute though
    My music does not go
    anything like this here
    I mean no where near
    So I wont even say my bands name
    Cause its not part of this game
    Not close to the being the same
    absolutely no where near this lame

  • ThumpPump

    I think I realized why Elton is so against P2P music exchange. He has had some great songs over the years but usually only 1 or 2 maximum per album. Basically he has used 1 or 2 songs to carry another 8 or so to fill an album. With downloading in place, 90% or his music would never have been heard. That still leaves about a zillion songs as he has released about a zillion albums over his ~50 year career.

    Besides, he must be around 70 yrs old, right? Not the demographic that is high on computer usage. He probably listens to what his 45 year old hubby has to say and parrots that to the media. And his hubby is a Canadian AND a former Advertising Dude – bound to be twisted…he was the only guy on his block who did not play hockey.

    Think about THAT for a while.

    BTW- I am Canadian. I can therefore make light hearted comments about said country….

  • Anonymous

    i wonder how many gay and lesbian people use P2P – 152, i know of one very big torrent site that is run by two lesbiens but it’s not my place to tell “LOL” I WONDER IF YOU DOWNLOAD FROM IT? if so you mite have a couple of people you don’t like to thank for some of your free bees “lol”, did you know one of the big site’s just taken down had a bisexual at the top, think before you open your mouth its people like you that give us all a bad name.

  • abc

    I wish people could argue their objections to Elton’s comments, without resorting to anti-gay slurs and abuse. This thread of comments makes file sharers look like bigotted creeps.

  • ThumpPump

    #155 – What you said. Thats what I meant.

    For a world famous rock star to earn only $200 k per year would be intolerable – well too bad, thats enough cash for anyone – NO? – okay, push that up to 1 million for top sellers.

    Why not do what Australia does (or used to do) with its bartenders and and set wage brackets based on experience. Of course this wage bracket would be based on, oh, I dunno, NUMBER OF DOWNLOADS? I am sure that there are many up and coming bands that will one day be super famous who would accept a $200 to $1000 k per band member per year “Salary”. Gone would be the days of 1% of the musicians, actors, poets etc. making 99% of the $$$. Paid by some sort of “superfund” that all consumers of said product contribute to. Now lets hear some noise about capitalism being the motivating force behind “the quest for excellence”.

  • ThumpPump

    Sorry, not to manopolize (sp) this thread, but one more thing is on my mind. What about making an analogy with FM radio and cassette players. Anyone could record half way decent quality music from FM (or digital am) which was (and is) massively available. One the recording is made, the commercials are never heard again.

    Aside from “the above” half baked and poorly thought out arguement, people pay to have something they can hold on to, read lyrics from, stack on a shelf, and of guaranteed quality (with the right bands given credit for the right songs — too many errors like “Comfortably Numb” by “the Beatles” on the internet. Errors in ripping, naming errors, all propagating as fast as light. Downloading as it stands right now has many flaws that still motivate a consumer to pay for the real (and legal) thing. Who cares if my racks and racks of CDs can now be fit on a quarter sized chip hung around my neck?

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