Exposed: BitTorrent Pirates at the DOJ, Parliaments, Record Labels and More

Ernesto
December 26, 2012
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After revealing that employees at Hollywood movie studios are pirating movies themselves, we now move on to some other high profile organizations. As it turns out, the Big Three record labels are also using BitTorrent to pirate movies and software. And they’re not alone, we also found plenty of pirates at the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice, the U.S. House of Representatives and at various European Parliaments.

Most TorrentFreak readers know that when you use BitTorrent without a VPN, the whole world is able to see what you’re downloading and where from.

Dozens of companies collect this incriminating data on alleged BitTorrent pirates, and some even go as far sharing this information in public. This allows us to reveal that unauthorized downloads occur even in the most unexpected of places.

Yesterday we documented that employees at several of the largest Hollywood movie studios are avid BitTorrent users. Today we’ll highlight a few other organizations, starting with three of the biggest record labels, Universal Music Group, Sony Music Entertainment and Warner Music Group.

Universal Music Group

At Universal Music Group employees have been caught downloading several movies and TV-shows including The Cleveland Show, Transformers and Finding BigFoot. Below are three of the torrents that were shared from static IP-addresses registered to the record label, but there are many more.

Sony Music Entertainment

At Sony Music Entertainment’s New York office we found plenty of BitTorrent pirates as well. The XBox 360 game “Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions” and a recent episode of Gossip Girl are among the downloaded titles the record label is linked to.

Warner Music Group

IP-addresses registered to Warner Music Group are sharing on BitTorrent as well. An episode of Suits for example, and the movies House at the End of the Street and Finding Nemo.

And there’s more.

The U.S. Department of Justice, who are accusing Kim Dotcom of sharing a 50 Cent track, harbors several BitTorrent pirates in their offices too.

The same can be said for the Department of Homeland Security, where not all employees appear to be law abiding citizens.

Sometimes the content that’s being downloaded is rather topical for the organization or institution. For example, here’s what an employee of the “Army Air Force Exchange Services” has downloaded.

And then there are the lawmakers at the U.S. House of Representatives where we see that, among other things, the TV-shows Game of Thrones and Person of Interest are being downloaded.

BitTorrent is also used in the highest political offices in Europe of course.

Moving across the pond we see unauthorized downloads at national parliaments such as the German Bundestag, the Dutch Tweede Kamer, the Spanish Cortes Generales and also at the European Parliament itself.

We can go on and on….

Perhaps what we can learn from this exercise is that there are BitTorrent pirates in all decent sized companies and institutions. We can repeat the above for every outfit that has IP-addresses registered in their name, and a search for Facebook, Netflix (!) or Microsoft will bring back plenty of results.

Feel free to look for more yourself and post your findings in the comments.

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guess who

this couldn’t be any sweeter if it was made from pure sugar. fuck you doj, sony, universal and all you other pirate scum.
- Sdfsdfsd
  
  yah fuck u….
- OneEyedWillie
  
  How dare you cal them names!! Don’t you know?!! They are ABOVE THE LAW!!!
- Guest321
  
  Pure scum, that’s what they are. They can sue us and ask for millions but we can’t do anything to them because we don’t have money? Nice justice system we have.
- Bananas
  
  PETITION TO RAID DOJ
- JordanKratz
  
  NO ! They are not Pirates as that will give Pirates a bad name.
  They are just pure SCUM !
  Fuck The MAFIAA & Their Stooges HARD !
- Zamir
  
  Estamos em estado de guerra, quando pensas que podes dizer tudo que convem,tem um espião monitorando o que você escreve.
  O governo mundial já começou.
  - Guess Who
    
    swedish, german, danish and norwejan i can bluff my way through, spanish, fucked if i know what you said. i’ll just gree with you because you made the effort to post :)
    - renob
      
      Google Translate:
      
      We are at war, when you think you can say whatever suits has a spy monitoring what you write.
      The world government has already begun.
    - Guest
      
      It’s not even Spanish… it’s portuguese…
- Elizabeth Stocker
  
  uh.. thanks to these people that release movie rips early you have free movies to download, effectively making you, pirate scum lol
Dyrewulf

I could have told you that – I worked overseas on a DoS CIVPOL mission, and there were more POLICE ADVISORS downloading illegal content than you would believe. Of course, for $3 they could get any DVD/CD they wanted from the locals via Russian and Chinese bootleggers.
- Bloaxor
  
  Now there’s some serious piracy business.
Felesar

YOU don’t get to take advantage of thing like this. I get to.
- governments
Guest

people use bittorrent..
they are part of the people
*connect the dots*
- ProGrasTiNation
  
  Good sir was just about to point that out.
  These greedy companies are run by people like you & me,they use the money system to trap people into doing their bidding.
  If we all just said fuck you & started taking back control of all the systems in place to control us we could begin to set up a free world were money doesn’t matter.
- chilean
  
  After reading I was gonna post something like this. With this article you probably fucked up our own people. I could bet most of them were trying to laugh under their noses.
  
  You just helped these bastards “clean” themselves up and become row models for other labels and institutions….
Anyone

do as I say, not as I do
- Yume
  
  “I say: You must do what I do”. Eh?
  - Jh
    
    I’ll do you
PsyGoat

No fucking shit, eh?
IHaveNoBalls

This whole thing still messes with my head. If its “illegal” to share or download copyrighted stuff (according to the rights-holders), then why can’t we simply report the DOJ, Sony and all the other Hypocrites to the police, just like they do to the public? Get them convicted.. You have the evidence… That won’t work but i don’t why it wont work
- Who
  
  because they=DOJ and the FBI are the ones that you report this shit to. BTW local police don’t give a rats ass about this kind of shit.
- guess who
  
  they are the gears of the machine, removing the gears breaks the machine.
  - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
    
    I would assume that just as I can’t complain about you breaking copyright law (well I can but as I’m not the content holder, nobody cares what I think), so too you can’t complain about them breaking copyright law. it’s up to the content holder to fight it. The real irony will be if say, AMC (or whoever owns the rights for Talking Dead) were to hire a copyright troll to go after everyone downloading the show, and Prenda Law Group started after the DoJ…
    - guess who
      
      i think the best way to put them breaking copyright is to say ‘POT KETTLE BLACK.’
  - Guest
    
    When did Sony become the gears, now reporting the DOJ is just a schoolboy error ie a stupid one.
- Guest321
  
  Because the police don’t work for the people anymore and we don’t have any money either to take these big cats out.
- guest
  
  You can’t successfuly report them because copyright infringment is a matter of civil, not criminal law. You would have to report the DOJ to the copyright holders, then, if the felt like it, they could take them to court (but they won’t).
  - Kbjew
    
    Copyright infringement is a CRIMINAL LAW! FBI warning on DVD says $250,000 fine + 5 years jail. Go watch some DVDs caveman.
    - Who
      
      BTW I hope you know that’s a LIE LOL.
    - Mtndewbee
      
      Non of the DVD’s from pirate bay say that
- joexxx
  
  In US, you can’t sue the government unless the government allows you to.
  - markh
    
    which means it isn’t as democratic as they tell people
    - joexxx
      
      This has nothing to do with democracy.
- FF
  
  Just because employees are breaking the law doesnt make the company/organization to be accused. Those people will just get fired and business will continue as usual.
Pssd

WTF How’s the HoR downloading S03 of Game of Thrones?! That’s not fair! Not only are they pirating, but ahead of the game :sourface:
- IHaveNoBalls
  
  I’m think they proberly downloaded a fake torrent
- A Non
  
  Probably a fake
  - hikaricore
    
    Not even probably… definitely. Unless someone leaked a screener and if that were the case we would ALL know about it by now.
    - FF
      
      Where do you think those fake torrents get seeded from? ;)
theonlyone

I wonder why none of these people from these agencies have been harassed by copyright trolls.
- Guest
  
  A comment from someone on the inside of such organisations: we do get these notices fairly regularly.
  
  Its a constant pain for our IT departments
  
  We also point out who we are (given its normally an automatically generated letter), we state we will work immediately to stop the data sharing, oh and that we actually have a team of lawyers on staff.
NIGHTS

……..COCKS!
Who

WoW just like in the past when they got caught with there pants down. and nothing was done about it back then so you really think something will be done about it this time? dought it.
- http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
  
  Just further ammo if you ever find yourself in front of a judge trying to explain why you downloaded that movie that you don’t own the copyright to.
  - NewClear
    
    Hopefully that claim would hold up in court. They would probably say something like “Well, that still doesn’t make it right” or “They already own the rights to that stuff so its legal for them to download.”
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      it’s true, it still doesn’t make it right. But it certainly goes to the pervasiveness of the activity when even the content holders can’t keep their own backyards clean.
      
      As for owning the content (which isn’t the case in any of these situations), downloading is only part of BitTorrent, the other part is uploading. And unless they’re using BitThief, every time they download they share that content, owned by them or not, with everyone else in the world. Implies consent when you’re willingly sharing it….as far as I can tell that makes it a legal upload.
    - Guest
      
      “They already own the rights to that stuff so its legal for them to download.”
      
      Sony has copyright over XBOX360 games? That’s news to me.
    - Guest321
      
      The DOJ doesn’t own any copyrights.
  - Who
    
    ya I hear ya. after reading part of the updated US copyright law I found one thing that could provide a major defense against this copyright bull shit. but not sure how well it can help with all the corruption in this world.
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      o_O explain?
    - Who
      
      @Gene Poole
      
      well because it does say in 17 U.S.C., @ Chapter 5. Infringement is a crime only where it is done “willfully and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain. “well we are defiantly NOT personally profiting off this stuff” *although some may be*
      
      well the updates define “commercial advantage” as the use of ANY electronic device that can assist in the duplication and distribution of a copyrighted works.
      but see that’s just the loop hole I found.
      
      “Infringement is a crime only where it is done “willfully and for purposes of commercial advantage”
      
      “WILLFULLY” since when have we done any of this willfully?
      
      we are “ENCOURAGED” by the industry everyday to copy copyrighted works thru the use of “COMMERCIAL ADVANTAGE”, the devices we use on a daily biases.
      
      internet
      
      cellphones
      
      computers
      
      software
      
      and any other electronic device that can be used to assist.
      
      that hint to the ability to copy.
      
      see were I am getting @
      
      hell I have seen in a crutch field mag a new turntable that allows you to plug it in to a computer via USB and includes software to convert your old LP (records) collection to digital sound files.
      
      and ya want to know whats funny about that? LP’s have no copy protection on them there to OLD.
    - Who
      
      BTW forgot to add this
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu5JdmsLWVk&list=LLZehVWSPOf0z-_wN9Wzr-IQ
    - joexxx
      
      This only covers criminal actions – the ones you can be sent to jail for.
      You can still be liable for damages in a civil court even if you didn’t profit from anything. You won’t go to jail, but you’ll be ordered to pay a lot of money – that’s called civil liability. Look up tort law.
    - Who
      
      @joexxx: if that was true then that would just mean the US is swinging a double edge sword and it wouldn’t matter if you were found guilty or not and the law wouldn’t even matter for all its worth.
    - Who
      
      @joexxx: BTW I did look up tort law. BTW LOL your funny.
    - Guest
      
      @Who
      
      and ya want to know whats funny about that? LP’s have no copy protection on them there to OLD.
      
      And you know what’s funny about that? neither do cassette tapes, or red book CDs. (DRM’d CDs are banned from red book certification!)
    - Who
      
      @Guest: close to the end of the DMCA is mentioned the duplication of cassette tapes and it said something about macrovision in the tape playback hardware. not sure if this meant that @ the end of life for cassette tapes that some did have protections or not.
http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

Just goes to reinforce what we’ve been saying for years now: piracy is a non-issue, it’s a common activity that transcends the political spectrum, business, and everything besides. In the information age, any individual that is not being watched by someone higher than him will take the easiest route to acquire information.

I have a netflix account, I can watch (for instance) Breaking Bad on my laptop, my TV, my phone. Yet it’s easier and quicker to download the episode I want because there are much lower bandwidth concerns and I don’t have to worry about potential pauses to cache. Even though I can get it for free (essentially), I choose to go the legally-questionable route for convenience. And I’m not alone, as is evidenced above.

The problem isn’t people’s activities. The problem is the law has not caught up with society.
- guess who
  
  what i’m waiting for yank stupidity to send a ship into space for the illegal watching of earths tv by aliens who haven’t paid for the privalige.
  - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
    
    I think I read a book about that or something.
    - guess who
      
      just as long as you copied it.
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      I did but I don’t remember, it could have been creative commons.
  - WuW
    
    Aliens must be sharing all the TV series and movies from the Earth at incredible speeds and they must be whining about the low quality of Blu-rays and HDTV.
    - guess who
      
      once again the film and tv studios fail to cater for the market.
  - Whatever
    
    One spaceship to cover more than 50 light years in all possible directions. I think this one is just outside of the MAFIAA’s reach.
    
    But while you’re at it, they should then also create a 3 strikes scheme to prevent black holes from re-transmitting the information that fell in as gamma rays at the poles.
    
    And the MAFIAA didn’t even cause any additional innovation into spaceflight to go after those petty criminal aliens which is one of the promises of imaginary property.
Guest

sure its ironic and funny that this is exposed, but i don’t think a lot of you are viewing this in the right light.

in this and the previous article, a lot of the comments follow along the lines of “fuck you guys, you’re hippocrates blah blah blah” but you need to stop and think for a second.

the people downloading these files are no different from you or me. they are just people. people who want entertainment and want it conveniently. its much more likely that the employees that are downloading these things are the drones who are just working their job like everyone else and NOT the policy makers at these organizations. that doesn’t make them hippocrates, instead it should remind you that the cogs in the copyright machine are humans just like the rest of us.

its a good sign, it means we have people on the inside. and while i value the fact that this is reported on by torrent freak, you have to remember….the attention that is drawn to the activities of “our people” on the “inside” is going to do nothing but cause trouble for the very people who obviously support our ideals.

i don’t think that its a far-fetched idea that in the next couple week there will be a crackdown on this type activity and a weeding out of employees who may be sympathetic to the anti-copyright cause.
- http://gear-mentation.myopenid.com/ Gear Mentation
  
  Yes, and it also goes to show how firmly the people have spoken on this issue. Sharing of copyrighted works is legal, just as pot is legal. It’s not a matter of the system, but of the law being subverted by moneyed interests.
- Anon1
  
  Hypocrite*. Hippocrates was an ancient Greek physician. Just sayin’
  - Techanon
    
    Philosopher, not physician.
    - Hippo
      
      So, the Father of Medicine wasn’t a physician? He was just a philosopher…
      That can explain why some people die when they are under medical treatment.
      
      Good, you have rewritten all the history of humanity.
      
      This is no longer valid:
      
      Hippocrates, (born c. 460 bc, island of Cos, Greece—died c. 375 , Larissa, Thessaly), ancient Greek physician who lived during Greece’s Classical period.
      
      Now add this to every encyclopedia in the world:
      
      Hippocrates: He was a scammer that stole money from many patients, his philosophy was: “take their money first and try to learn about medicine later”.
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      @Hippo
      
      Actually, Hippocrates would have been very cross were you not to describe him as a philosopher – that being the ancient greek equivalent of a PhD. Were you to call him medical man you would have implied him a chirurgeon – a low class usually unread barber.
      
      Today we call him a physician as well, of course. Now that we honor doctors and not just theorists.
- Hippo
  
  That doesn’t make them Hippocrates,
  because they’re not even practicing medicine.
  - Croc
    
    No better than homeopathy
http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

Wouldn’t be an issue if these organizations just offered up some public wifi for their employees. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t. Makes it a non-issue, because even if you know there’s only 4 people in the department when “Asshole Fever” was downloaded you can say “We can’t tell who did it, it’s an open wifi connection so we aren’t responsible”
YoudontneedtoknowwhoIam

*sniffs loudly, doglike* What, no post from everybody’s favorite dumbass troll? C’mon, surely Anon has something to say about this…Oh wait a minute that’s right..he only posts when he can further attempt to divide us by pissing us off with his inflammatory and inane remarks about crap
- http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
  
  he’s too busy flirting with Fredrika in another thread.
  - Anon1
    
    So Fredrika is a girl then? Or is Anon just into dudes?
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      I think Fredrika is a girl, but I could be wrong.
    - highboi
      
      There are no girls on the interwebz
    - Guess Who
      
      the gender isn’t important, what is is what they have to say.
  - ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt
    
    Sometimes i wonder.
Guest

If the DOJ comes out with that the IP address does not prove it was someone in their department or their IP address has been spoofed then this will blow a very big hole with their arguments in suing people that an IP address shows/proves who the infringer is.
- http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
  
  That’s exactly why nobody involved is going to comment on it. ever. Because a comment on either side will screw them over in the future.
  - Guest
    
    Yeah I agree and I was so looking forward to what the likes of Anon and Nej were to say.
    - Who
      
      ya same here. kinda wander now if they work for them. LOL
    - guest
      
      Of course they work for them. So does Cuntrika. Nobody in their right mind would waste so much time here arguing the pro-copyright position unless they had some kind of stake in it. On the plus side, I bet they are paid in monopoly money.
    - TLS
      
      “ya same here. kinda wander…”
      
      You know Who is a wandering spirit.
    - Frankie098
      
      @Guest
      
      “So does Cuntrika”
      
      WTF are you talking about you stupid fuck
  - Guest
    
    Yeah, Fredrika is an agent of the MAFIAA. That’s why she discredits other MAFIAA agents and, using logic and reason, exposes the whole IP protection racket as a scam.
    
    …Wait, what?
Paul

I feel like I’m slipping up when it takes a Pirate from the US House of Representatives to alert me that there is an illegal torrent available for Game of Thrones S03E01. Whoever you are, thanks, I’d vote for you if I could………
- Anyone
  
  it’s fake
- tonyj123
  
  I downloaded the Hobbit, it turned out to be Leonard Nimoy singing about the Hobbit… The horror!, The horror!
Gen. Eric Guy

“When the President does it, that means it is not illegal.”

Richard M. Nixon, TV interview with David Frost, May 20, 1977

How long do you think it will take before Hollywood and their cronies attempt to pull this move to try to save their own asses?
Neotoasty

More ammo for us.

This explains the behavior of governments from the average man.

But when it comes down to it. The government are like people too. They’re just part of their own “secret society” with power to tell the average man what to do and what not to. They’re just as susceptible to certain things as we are. And that is where they’re not invincible.
Logan B

1 [ UsaBit.com ] – Kevin.Hart.Laugh.At.My.Pain.2011.LIMITED.DVDRip.XviD-IGUANA
Google
United States , Mountain View , California 64.9.XXX.XXX 2012-06-27 04:45:54 2012-06-27 04:45:54 1
2 The.Secret.Circle.S01E10.HDTV.XviD-2HD.avi
Google
United States , Mountain View , California 64.9.XXX.XXX 2012-06-27 06:11:09 2012-06-27 06:11:09 1
3 Chronicle.2012.DVDRip.XviD-SPARKS
Google
United States , Mountain View , California 64.9.XXX.XXX 2012-05-29 06:22:50 2012-05-29 06:22:50 1
4 Green Lantern (2011) DVDRip XviD-MAXSPEED
Google
United States , Mountain View , California 64.9.XXX.XXX 2012-05-31 05:28:59 2012-05-31 05:28:59 1
5 [ UsaBit.com ] – Kevin.Hart.Laugh.At.My.Pain.2011.LIMITED.DVDRip.XviD-IGUANA
Google
United States , Mountain View , California 64.9.XXX.XXX 2012-06-28 08:56:17 2012-06-28 08:56:17 1
Jmorse43508

I wonder how much of this is due to IP address spoofing by some trackers, and how much as actually individuals at these organizations downloading copyright infringing material?

A few years ago it was reported that TPB was generating fake IP addresses (when they still had a tracker) just to throw off anti-piracy companies.

Perhaps some of the same is happening here as well.
- Guest
  
  So, what you’re trying to say, is that these BT swarm tracking companies are using whatever the tracker claims as basis to prosecute someone? No, they’re not. How do I know? These companies actually publish their methodologies.
ToniCipriani

Just waiting for the day RIAA and MPAA show up on those lists…
- Who
  
  they have already bro. the MPAA consist of SONY=Columbia pictures, WB=Warner bros aka time Warner *AKA road runner cable*, Disney=MGM, Universal pictures and the list goes on.
  
  http://www.mpaa.org/
  
  have a look @ the bottom…..all them are the MPAA and have branches they also own.
  
  these entities ALSO are members of the RIAA.
Tim

It’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye… Well, looks like they’ve lost more than an eye, they’re losing their whole backbone in this matter. Their scheme is losing, it’s a sinking ship.
Jack

Hey you White House.. HAHA Charade you are.
- IamFloyd
  
  Best Floyd album EVER.
gidfio

http://lnk.co/KQ35L
guest

This hypocrisy is literally sickening.
Conor

Great scoop, but if you want this to gain traction, take the story further.

Hit up the media reps for the DOJ, for Universal, for Warner, for Sony – get their comments (or ‘no comments’ or denials) out in the press so that they have to answer the tough questions and address their own hipocrisy.

It’s not enough to preach this kind of story to the converted. If you want it to go somewhere, then follow it up!
Fkdjoiwejoi

Good idea, Conor. Why don’t you do that for us?
- Frankie098
  
  Why dont you get off your ass and get the ball rolling
Jamesh

Seeking no truth
Winning is all
Find it so true so brim so real
- hetfield
  
  Ah shit, I fucked up the lyrics, it’s this:
  Find it so grim, so true, so real.
FogFimFoo

Sounds like a pretty solid plan to me dude. Wow.
Privacy-OT.tk
Killtheking

Copyright is put in place to protect intellectual property, it says nothing about people listening to music or watching movies that were created from a cd or dvd that I personally bought. There’s a thing called a consumer product. Does black and decker have the right to sue me if I give my neighbor a goddamn phillips screwdriver to use instead of him having to go buy one himself?
- You Buy Our Tools!!
  
  We invest money to make tools. If you lend it to your neighbor, we will suffer huge revenue loss, as no one buys them, no creator will get income and there will be no tools.
  - the screw driver maker
http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

Who can blame them. Netflix was down for 20 hours over Christmas.

Torrents were not down at all :D
Guest

Downloading Game of Thrones season 3 episode 1…. Someone got screwed with a virus after that i take it
downunder

and dont forget how many us troops posted over seas download their fav shows via p2p also cos again its not available any other way

i know so.. as they post comments to torrents saying they are over there on various torrents they downloaded.. how surprising NOT
Cealapa

I wonder what their excuse will be

and lol at the U.S. House of Representatives getting trolled over that fake Game of Thrones torrent XD
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musagittari

Classic description of hypocrites. Sharing this article on FB and other social networks to expose the hypocrites they are.
Test

LMFAO. Oh this made my day
bobmail

You know, I worked at a company once where the supply clerk was stealing staples and photocopy paper for his home office. It didn’t suddenly make the entire organization a bunch of criminals.

What you guys all seem to forget is that businesses are made up of people, and some of them will do things that are not in line with the policies or in the best interest of their industry. That doesn’t reflect on the industry, it only reflects on the poor choices of people willing to bite the hand that feeds them.

Trying to turn this into a “got you!” story is sad.
- Killtheking
  
  Well then no doubt those employees will just get a slap on the wrist and continue on with their lives. Just like the pigs in uniform.
- http://www.bluemonkeysfrommarz.com/ BlueMonkeysFromMarz.com
  
  I agree with most of what you said. However, I don’t think it’s being framed as a ‘got ya’ story at all. I see it as an indicator of how wrong minded the litigatious nature of the IP industry really is. So I would say it really does reflect on the industry. Embarrassingly so.
  
  Looking forward to the lawsuits brought against the DOJ (like colleges were), or TWH, or when Warners sues Sony.
  
  I’m sure they’ll all settle.
- icec0ld
  
  When groups are so vehemently opposed to piracy on a moral and “law” enforcement we as people are led to and expect a degree of sincerity, honesty and moral integrity when we examine these places.
  
  To say “oh, it’s just 1 or 2 people of a company” is to be incredibly irresponsible. These are places run and paid for by governments. These are the groups crying bloody murder on piracy and wrecking the lives of any pirate they can touch.
  
  Damn straight it’s “got you”. It’s called a reputation. We expect better.
  - xpmule
    
    it’s like seeing your preacher at the whore house..
    
    the guys valiantly wearing the white hats fighting for the side of good taking down all those bad guys stealing the food out of developers and artists mouths lol
    
    this should be viewed to developers and artists etc in many ways but one i think is the people that you think are protecting you and fighting for you *may just be the ones sticking a knife in your back !
- Guest
  
  You’re just mad that these organisations aren’t the shining stars of anti-piracy and everything that’s good about the world as you’d like them to be, Baghdad Bobmail.
  - bobmail
    
    Why the insult, dude?
    
    Look, every company (and I mean every one of them) has someone who comes back 10 minutes late from lunch – even companies that promote effeciency. Heck, from time to time you read about cops getting speeding tickets or getting caught driving drunk. They are human, it happens.
    
    It’s unrealistic to assume otherwise.
    
    Now, you could also consider that these downloaders were checking IP addresses and looking for seeders… but you are too simple minded it seems to get there (see, I can insult you too, child!).
    - xpmule
      
      common sense would tell you to look at your own network traffic before sending cease and desist letters out..
      what company in 2013 does not watch or manage their corporate traffic ?
      Sony Inc. just lets their employee’s use uTorrent or what ever on their lunch break to download stuff ? And i should have mercy on them because its not their fault ?
      
      No idea what your trying to prove.. facts are obvious and the implications are too
    - bobmail
      
      “common sense would tell you to look at your own network traffic before sending cease and desist letters out..”
      
      I am sure they do look at their network traffic. I am also sure that most of them have the protocol open so they can check their own stuff. Employees with poor judgement abuse it. You know, just like the way you guys abuse copyright in general.
      
      It happens.
      
      “No idea what your trying to prove.. facts are obvious and the implications are too”
      
      I prove nothing, and the implications are only that, when a door is left open for a good purpose, some theiving jackasses will take advantage. I hope they find the employees and fire their asses with prejudice.
    - Guest
      
      Yes, they are human, it happens.
      
      Just as other humans – children, grandmothers, misnamed people, homeless people, computer-less people, dead people – were sued and fined to the tune of $150,000 per alleged infringed work, so too must these people at the DOJ, parliament, record labels and more pay their pound of flesh.
      
      As someone praising copyright enforcement all the time why are you not baying for their blood? You hypocrite!
- Dude
  
  I can point out that these companies don’t block torrent protocols on their networks. So the best thing to do is use their connection for torrents.
- Guest
  
  Spin harder, Bob.
- Guest
  
  Nope. According to MAFIAA logic, if there’s proof of copyright infringement being performed by someone behind a given IP address, the entity that’s legally responsible for that IP address is liable and has to face the accusations of copyright infringement, REGARDLESS of who actually committed the copyright infringement.
  
  According to “common sense” and “being reasonable”, you ARE totally right. According to MAFIAA logic, though, you are NOT.
  
  This totally IS a “got you!” story. They CAN’T (or won’t) police their own internal networks for copyright infringements and they expect everyone else to do it (on their own time and money).
  
  Also, it helps to prove the point that “piracy” is as mainstream as it gets: *everyone* does it.
  
  Finally, it shows the futility of it all: not even the record/movie companies themselves can prevent their employees from pirating stuff through THEIR OWN Internet connection, so how the fuck do they expect to prevent people from pirating stuff OUTSIDE their internal networks?
- xpmule
  
  we’re all painfully aware of the obvious and just like the people against us we don’t care either..
  If we are going to be victimized with a no excuses policy then we are dishing it right back up !
  
  so yeah we ALL know ;)
  and we don’t care either ..fuck em ..fuck em all !
  you work for one of them then sorry but drown with them when they sink..
  
  it is a “Got You” story and what’s sad is your trying to make excuses for hypocrisy with verbal gymnastics.. you can try but it won’t work.
  
  If the people responsible for attacking people with piracy claims can not secure their OWN computers to prevent this then they have far bigger problems than worrying about who does or does not use BT..
  You’d think someone would be watchin the network activity at major high profile companies that harass people about BT and piracy.
  Got ya ? you bet !
http://twitter.com/DevilRejected Cory D McDonald

I wonder how they’ll spin this and how this will damage pending copyright cases ? Cause employees of these companies surely can’t get away with pirating movies from the companies they work for.

Especially the DOJ and the DHS, fucking fools hung themselves this time.
- xpmule
  
  see bobmail’s comments lol
God

I think what they’ll do is claim that “we were in the process of studying the BitTorrent protocol so that we can understand how the ‘average american’ is doing bad things”. We are very professional people, we have “THE RIGHT” We are in “THE RIGHT”.
http://twitter.com/JustAGuyOnline Justin Agai

How accurate are these IP addresses? Didn’t some judge say IP addresses aren’t good enough proof of identifying pirates? Yet that’s exactly what this article is doing…
- Blake
  
  EXACTLY.
- Guest
  
  Static IPs assigned to big important organizations are unlikely to be re-assigned to your grandma next week, and vice versa.
  
  You’re trying to cast doubt where there isn’t really any room for it.
UraPhake

If no one else has noticed this…

Doesn’t the data posted on the scaneye.net site encourage infringement of IP? I mean, just like RLSLOG, they post file names and where they came from. Not actual links, but just the same I discovered some material I wasn’t aware of by browsing their data and downloaded it via torrent right away after just a few mouse clicks.

Thank you ScanEye!

I hope Wiggin LLC doesn’t show up at your doorstep to dictate “terms, or else!”
chris p bacon

Torrentfreak. you do really need to try and publicise this more, get it mainstream, perhaps get someone to make a brief you tube clip and send these details to the international press, that surely would not cost you too much?. my point is, that any publicity is good publicity, and if it can be shown that indeed this is completely true, then the practice of selective prosecution can be exposed and laid bare for all to see. we all know there is one law for the rich and another for the not so rich, could this be the one piece of information that will change the game in the coming year i ask?.
http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

“Perhaps what we can learn from this exercise is that there are BitTorrent pirates in all decent sized companies and institutions.”

Which doesn’t make piracy OK. There are people breaking the law for personal gain in most companies, despite the company policies. At a personal level, those employees are jeopardizing their career at the company by breaking those policies and/or the law. Most companies log the Internet activities, if they want to kick some person by some reason, such logs will often be used as the formal excuse.
- Guest
  
  “Which doesn’t make piracy OK.”
  
  Piracy is already OK. So I guess you’re right in a sense – you can’t make something OK when it already is.
  
  “At a personal level, those employees are jeopardizing their career”
  
  You’re assuming that these pirates aren’t at the top of the labels, DoJ, or Parliament. What are you basing this assumption on?
  
  “Most companies log the Internet activities”
  
  So you’re implying that the labels, DoJ, and Parliament don’t give a shit about internal piracy since they don’t appear to be doing anything about it.
  - http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater
    
    “Piracy is already OK.”
    
    No, it’s against the law and for good reasons – protection of the creators rights.
    
    “You’re assuming that these pirates aren’t at the top of the labels, DoJ, or Parliament.”
    
    I don’t.
    
    “So you’re implying that the labels, DoJ, and Parliament don’t give a shit about internal piracy since they don’t appear to be doing anything about it.”
    
    They’re probably not aware of it. Logs are generally not checked in detail unless there´s a good reason such as a formal complaint or a direct suspicion.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “No, it’s against the law..”
      
      The stated claim was that piracy was ok, not what the law said?
      
      > “..and for good reasons..”
      
      Your opinion on this is relevant how? Since society has no proven need for the copyright monopoly, there are no sustainable reasons.
      
      > “..protection of the creators rights.”
      
      The courts and the judicial system offer protection of the creators rights, because the copyright monopoly says that the author should be privileged with those rights in the first place.
      
      But that’s not a reason for why they should be privileged with those rights in the first place(that they currently are), which is the reasons you speak of. You still haven’t figured out the difference between the means and the ends?
      
      You still believe that the purpose with copyright, the ends, which is clearly identified in present time by your own Justice Department, is the same thing as the means?
    - Guest
      
      “No, it’s against the law and for good reasons – protection of the creators rights.”
      
      No, since piracy poses no threat to the creators it’s only against the law for made-up bullshit reasons.
      
      “I don’t.”
      
      You do. A higher-up wouldn’t lose their job over sharing a movie. Only a low ranking wage-slave would.
      
      “Logs are generally not checked in detail”
      
      A company that doesn’t ruitinely check its logs for filesharing traffic(this would be insanely easy to do auomatically) is a company that doesn’t give a shit if its employees are pirating.
    - http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater
      
      @Guest
      
      “No, since piracy poses no threat to the creators it’s only against the law for made-up bullshit reasons.”
      
      No, the law is by no means made up. In fact most civilized countries have such laws. And those countries who signed the Berne Convention have also agreed on protecting the rights of creators in other countries.
      
      http://www.copyrightaid.co.uk/copyright_information/berne_convention_signatories
      
      “A higher-up wouldn’t lose their job over sharing a movie.”
      
      They would but they are not likely to go public on it. Sign a NDA and quietly leave the company.
      
      “A company that doesn’t ruitinely check its logs for filesharing traffic(this would be insanely easy to do auomatically) is a company that doesn’t give a shit if its employees are pirating.”
      
      This checking must also be balanced against the employees integrity rights. Most large companies require that the employees sign a paper the first day, agreeing on some company policies including not supporting piracy using the company’s network and computers. This doesn’t mean that it’s checked regularly or that the IT department reports individual findings. But signing that paper, you must be aware of the risk, also that if they want to get rid of you for some arbitrary reason, those logs can be checked at that time.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “No, the law is by no means made up.”
      
      Please learn to read, he said the reasons were made up.
      
      > “In fact most civilized countries have such law.”
      
      That a country currently has a law is not a reason for why a country should have a law, nor does it prove that the reasons behind the law aren’t made up. Ever heard of circular reasoning? Of course you have, it’s just about the only thing you do when you try to argue for why people should have their property rights intruded into.
      
      > “And those countries who signed the Berne Convention have also agreed on protection the rights of creators in other countries.”
      
      There’s no conflict between the Berne Convention and having a copyright monopoly that doesn’t regulate non-profit use of creative works. That’s why many countries already have such copyright monopolies, which works just fine with the Berne Convention.
      
      > “They would..”
      
      Rest assured that a high up employee would never loose their job over being accused of committing a completely irrelevant intrusion into a legislative monopoly. If you believe otherwise you only prove that you are clueless when it comes to how companies work and what they value and how they value their employees and how they value the money they would have to waste if they would have to be forced to go through the process of hiring a new employee.
      
      > “Sign a NDA and quietly leave the company.”
      
      The reason people signs NDA’s is because they get something valuable in return. What exactly is it that you consider valuable in your example?
      
      > “This checking must also be balanced against the employees integrity rights.”
      
      Must according to who?
      
      > “Most large companies require that the employees sign a paper the first day, agreeing on some company policies including not supporting piracy using the company’s network and computers.
      
      Supporting piracy? As in being political you mean?
    - Anyone
      
      @NTP
      copyright laws doesn’t grant any rights, it takes away MY rights
      because of copyright laws I am not allowed to do with my property what I want, how do you justify that?
      
      furthermore there have been studies that show that copyright (and patents) are harmful to society and by no means necessary
    - http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater
      
      @Anyone
      
      “copyright laws doesn’t grant any rights, it takes away MY rights
      because of copyright laws I am not allowed to do with my property what I want, how do you justify that?”
      
      The laws grant rights to the creator, in a very natural way – why shouldn’t the creator be in control of his own intellectual property in the same way as you are with your property?
      
      You’re allowed to do whatever you like with your property apart from copying it since that infringes the copyright (with some exceptions). If you’ve bought a DVD with a movie, you can use it as a frisbee, put it in the blender or whatever you want but not make an illegal copy. Rather obvious, isn’t it?
      
      When you buy music or movies, you only buy that copy, not the right to make new copies.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “The laws grant rights to the creator, in a very natural way..”
      
      There’s nothing natural about controlling what other people do with the physical property they have in front of themselves once they have bought it.
      
      > “..why shouldn’t the creator be in control of his own intellectual property..”
      
      Intellectual property does not exists unless the copyright monopoly says it does. The question was why should he be privileged with such control in the first place.
      
      > “..in the same way as you are with your property?”
      
      Because physical property and a creative work are not the same thing???? Do you not understand the fundamental physical, logical and practical difference between physical property and a creative work, which is something completely different than physical property??
      
      > “You’re allowed to do whatever you like with your property apart from copying it since that infringes the copyright (with some exceptions).”
      
      And? The question was why there should be an apart.
      
      > “..but not make an illegal copy. Rather obvious, isn’t it?”
      
      But he didn’t question what the laws said he was forbidden from doing, now did he???? He questioned why he should be forbidden from doing it. Are you having a hard time following the argumentative thread?
      
      > “When you buy music or movies, you only buy that copy, not the right to make new copies.”
      
      Again you make irrelevant references to what the copyright law says in some countries.
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      “What’s wrong with it?”
      “It’s wrong”
      “But why is it wrong?
      “Because it’s illegal”
      “But why is it illegal?”
      “Because it’s wrong”
      “And…why is it wrong?
      “Because it’s illegal”
      
      Talking to Anon or Netjtillpirater is like banging your head against a wall: it feels good when you stop.
    - Guest
      
      “No, the law is by no means made up.”
      
      First of all, yes it is. I don’t know what deranged way you think it comes about, but in reality the law is actually made up by people.
      
      Second, that has nothing to do with my point that piracy doesn’t threaten creators, so outlawing it because it threatens creators is utterly dishonest bulllshit.
      
      “They would”
      
      Okay. Apparently they’d fire themselves.
      
      “This checking must also be balanced against the employees integrity rights.”
      
      Oh, I see. Spying on employees’ internet connections to uncover piracy must be balanced against their rights. Spying on the public’s internet connections to uncover piracy, however, does not have to be balanced against their rights.
      
      Nejtillpirater Land is a strange place.
      
      Oh, and nothing you’ve said counters my point that if these organizations cared about stopping internal piracy, they’d use an automated packet sniffing program to simply log and report filesharing traffic.
    - http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater
      
      @Guest
      
      “Spying on the public’s internet connections to uncover piracy, however, does not have to be balanced against their rights.”
      
      Of course it does. The implementation of IPRED, DRD etc. includes such balancing of rights. It might not be in balance according to pirates but pirates tend to look at things in black or white, completely free Internet or “cutting the cable”. Most people can see the nuances and actually understand what balancing is.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “..but pirates tend to look at things in black or white, completely free Internet or “cutting the cable”.”
      
      Weren’t you warned about lying on this site? Would you like to be banned again?
    - http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater
      
      @Fredrika
      
      “> “..but pirates tend to look at things in black or white, completely free Internet or “cutting the cable”.”
      
      Weren’t you warned about lying on this site? Would you like to be banned again?”
      
      I expressed my opinion, based on my personal experience.
      
      Thank you very much for your example of handling free speech according to pirates. Copied that to my blog, I have a summary page of pro piracy pages that are also pro censoring of opinions against piracy.
      
      http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/piratsidor-med-censur/
    - Fredrika
      
      > “I expressed my opinion, based on my personal experience.”
      
      You are fully aware of the fact that the pirates want the same laws to apply on-line as in the physical world, which means that only citizens suspected of having committed a crime should be monitored. That is in no way what you argued would be a completely free Internet, now is it?
      
      > “Thank you very much for your example of handling free speech according to pirates.”
      
      But you still haven’t learned what free speech is, now have you? Free speech is not the privilege of having one’s words posted in another party’s publication, so deleting comments or banning trolls does not cause a clash with free speech.
      
      > “Copied that to my blog..”
      
      Yes, lying through your teeth as usual. And when asked about your lies you don’t remember them for some reason.. Maybe we should freshen up your memory?
      
      Remember when you lied about knowing with 100% certainty that filesharing was illegal in Spain, which it wasn’t?
      
      Remember when you lied about the 100% dependent profit seeking company MediaVision being independent?
      
      Remember when you lied about the non-Swedish based site Pirate Bay being illegal because of a Swedish sentence that didn’t say that the site was illegal even in Sweden?
      
      Remember when you lied about Pirate Bay and what they said about that they maybe had a connection to PRQ, but maybe didn’t?
      
      Remember when you committed libel and lied about Fredrik Neij operating a site that sold fake drivers licenses?
      
      Remember when committed libel and lied about several Pirate Party officials being paedophiles?
      
      Remember when you lied about the Pirate Bay sentences being precedent, which they aren’t?
      
      Remember when you lied about what the Swedish Justice Department said that the purpose of copyright was in present time?
      
      Maybe it’s about time you apologise for those lies? Or is backing down from a lie something that you are incapable of?
      
      > “I have a summary page of pro piracy pages that are also pro censoring of opinions against piracy.”
      
      Nope, moderation of comments on one’s own publication/blog, which constitutes one’s own speech is not censoring, it’s moderating.
      
      Your speech is the speech you publish in your own publications, not those belonging to others. No pirate has ever suggested your own speech should be censored.
      
      Maybe it’s time you learn the fundamentals about publishing, free speech and censorship?
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      Just as a side comment on this, I may be remembering incorrectly, but I don’t think Netj necessarily called Rick a pedophile…if so, it may have been hyperbole, which is protected speech, incorrect or false or whatever, or not.
      
      Just playing devil’s advocate, because I’m a strong advocate of free speech, which isn’t just speech that one doesn’t like, but all speech. Libel is not protected by the constitution, it’s true. But if it’s not something that any reasonable person would take as a sincere fact, then it can be seen as parody, social commentary and the like.
      
      Now, if netj said that (s)he had “seen Rick Falkvinge escorting young children into the back of his windowless grey panel Econoline van”, then I’d say that’s completely invalid. Perhaps by suggesting that since he’s not opposed to child pornography he could be a pedophile, though…that would probably still stand as protected speech.
      
      But I may have missed Netj’s comment and may be completely off base as well. If so, then disregard :-)
    - Fredrika
      
      > “Just as a side comment on this, I may be remembering incorrectly, but I don’t think Netj necessarily called Rick a pedophile…”
      
      Where did i claim the opposite?
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      “Remember when committed libel and lied about several Pirate Party officials being paedophiles?
      
      Just surmising from the above. But as I mentioned, I may not have all the facts either because I tend to ignore Netj most of the time. Can you elaborate? because I’m obviously not getting it.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “Can you elaborate? because I’m obviously not getting it.”
      
      Elaborate on what? Which persons he called paedophiles? Not Falkvinge, although he has hinted it on several occasions, but Dick Wase and one of the Rebhinder’s are two that comes to mind right now. Site search his blog using carefully chose keywords.
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      I tried, but the page is full of some loren ipsum nonsense. I don’t think he’s actually put anything in his blog. Either that or it’s not actually English.
    - Anyone
      
      @NTP
      but artists do have control, even without copyright
      they can either release it to the public or not
      
      but once they release it they no longer have control, they have no right to take away my rights for no reason
      
      copyright no longer serves any purpose, you can be published easily on the internet, without having to sell your soul to a studio or label
      
      if you want an example of an area that works without any copyright look at FOSS. Google invests millions into Android, even though other people or corporations (such as Amazon) can easily copy it and distribute it themselves
      of course they also have to invest billions into patents to fight off patent trolls like Apple, but that just demonstrates the flaw in the current system, all those billions could be used to improve the product instead of having to pay lawyers and trolls
- Fredrika
  
  > “Which doesn’t make piracy OK.”
  
  Correct, piracy is generally considered ok for other reasons.
- Guest32
  
  “Which doesn’t make piracy OK. There are people breaking the law for personal gain in most companies, despite the company policies. At a personal level,
  those employees are jeopardizing their career at the company by breaking those policies and/or the law. Most companies log the Internet activities, if
  they want to kick some person by some reason, such logs will often be used as the formal excuse.”
  
  Yes, and in other debates you have argued that the account holder should be responsible for piracy from his connection. If it’s your IP address, you are responsible. And if you can’t identify who did it, because your logging software is inadequate or the transmission is encrypted you deserve the punishment. That was your argument in all threads in which it was pointed out to you that IP addresses do not prove guilt, and that locking down a network connection was impossible. What is your argument now NTP?
  
  What is good enough evidence to convict a home user is also enough to convict a corporation, unless you want special rules for corporations and governments which would not least surprise me.
  
  If even the DOJ and RIAA can’t lock down their networks and institute the information and access control sufficient to internally enforce their own paradigm they can’t expect other actors to do better.
  
  What this article proves is once again that information control is impossible even in a locked down network. If the said organizations now want to argue that locking down their own networks is unworkable or undesirable to the extend it will deter and prevent piracy, they can’t expect other actors to do better.
  - http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater
    
    “Yes, and in other debates you have argued that the account holder should be responsible for piracy from his connection. If it’s your IP address, you are responsible. And if you can’t identify who did it, because your logging software is inadequate or the transmission is encrypted you deserve the punishment. That was your argument in all threads in which it was pointed out to you that IP addresses do not prove guilt, and that locking down a network connection was impossible. What is your argument now NTP?”
    
    My argument is the same in this case. If a formal complaint on piracy is directed to DOJ, Parliaments, Record labels etc. I expect that they will check their logs and find the persons to blame. If not possible – the company/organisation is to blame instead of an individual employee.
    - Anyone
      
      of course the MAFIAA will not complain, they will only go after the little guys, those that have no chance fighting back wrong accusations
    - Guest32
      
      And what if the logs only shows that there was a connection with a timestamp and an internal NAT address from a computer. It does not necessarily show which person did the act.
      Unless the network only allows internet access after individual user authentication, and everyone remembers to log out every time they leave their desk, the logs wont prove anything.
      
      A log file is worthless without the ability to identify every person using the computer.
      It’s impossible unless you legally compel all owners of internet connections to log everything downstream from router to any computer with access to the network. And even in that scenario, you have not taken into account that the computer may unwittingly act as a proxy for other trafick.
      If the DOJ and RIAA can’t identify who did the act by use of logs, the only practical solution is a forensic inspection of all computers connected to the network.
    - xpmule
      
      symantecs
      almost all of us will use any means to return the harassment
      ..ideology and beliefs aside.
      
      you understand but are playing games. (as usual)
      i’ll explain..
      many of us are leaving comments like screw em throw em in jail etc
      but on other topic we say “you can’t use that as evidence”
      if your gonna take a kids winnie the poo laptop then you better raid google’s offices an take some from there too..
      do we think a kid should have to go through that harassment ? no of course not.. that’s the point and its always been the point and will be.
      we don’t think people should be victimized over file sharing even though your trying to make us look like hypocrites when we call for at least a bare minimum of fairness and common sense
      
      check their logs ?
      gimme a break lol
      your saying its common practice at big companies to have a good faith policy on internet usage ?
      so that why they don’t notice bit torrent used on their networks ?
      that’s just dumb !
      
      You know what the difference here is that compared to home users being terrorized by scumbag anti-file sharing pigs what we’re talking about here is Companies responsible for the harassment caught committing what they claim is crimes all the while using STATIC ip address’s registered to the COMPANY NAME !
      Unlike a home user with a dynamic ip address..
      
      you try and try and i find it amusing lol
      keep em coming.. its FAR more entertaining then watching the latest great block buster movie lol
- xpmule
  
  Maybe true but irrelevant..
  
  i like how every single reply you post is contingent on heresy and fantasy.
  and most importantly assumptions lol
  
  what we learned is what was posted no more no less.
  and by that i mean it’s still open for interpretation..
  for all we know most of it is used for bait
  i doubt much of it was employees being bad as your trying to state.
  and i find it hard to believe HUGE companies do not have a watchdog keeping an eye on net traffic ..it’s strange how everyone is ignoring that.
  it’s common practice for companies ESPECIALLY BIG ones.
  
  so your premise is riddled with holes and won’t float.
  
  Even if it is bad employees then so what the company should be held responsible for their actions and should be sued into submission !
  
  And piracy is wrong we all know..
  But i can’t speak for these other guys but i don’t get into
  a dingy and roll up on boats with an AK-47 too much lol
  BUT i do support File sharing which is perfectly legal ;)
  
  We missed you by the way, Please post some more funny crap LOL
http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

doj, sue the hell out of yourself
Mike H.

If anyone here listens to Coast to Coast AM, I will be calling George this Friday during open lines to discuss this topic.
- The Euro
  
  Good for you.
  
  What country, state/province, city, station is this on? I’ve never heard of it but would like to listen in, if it’s at all possible.
  - Mike H.
    
    It’s on in the US nationally from 10p-2a pacific time, there might some information at the website about how to listen internationally: http://www.coasttocoastam.com
Syborg

Wow, these employees sure like Xvid quality, maybe we should sue them for accepting poor quality torrents..
Anon

This is just another self-justification non-story, like a criminal banker led away in handcuffs with a raincoat thrown over his head insisting to the media that “everybody does it.” Oh really? I don’t think so. You can’t outlie to the law without the law first being well established by the modern, common norm.

When the “5% Pirate party” gathers a meaningful plurality ANYWHERE in the world, then we’ll have a story.

Until then, either the employees have copyright by virtue of their employers umbrella and no foul, or they (and DOJ employees) should be confronted and given a chance to settle for a very small amount just as Jammie and Joel were offered again and again before their ridiculous legal teams led them over the jury award cliff, multiple times in every case.

Or build a compelling ethical/moral case why folks who build digital houses should be left out in the cold with nothing to sell while others who build analog houses can live in them, license or sell them, and leave them to their children.

Piracy teaches digital workers their products are not as valuable as analog worker’s products. Piracy diminishes the economic value of a format. It’s absurd. And so are your selfish arguments of entitlement.
- Fredrika
  
  > “When the “5% Pirate party” gathers a meaningful plurality ANYWHERE in the world, then we’ll have a story.”
  
  You mean as when they convinced the only growing parliamentarian group in the parliament of the worlds biggest economy to adopt their program on copyright altogether, including legalised non-profit filesharing?
  
  A story that you are desperately afraid of even commenting on.
  
  > “Or build a compelling ethical/moral case why folks who build digital houses should be left out in the cold with nothing to sell while others who build analog houses can live in them, license or sell them, and leave them to their children.”
  
  The reason people can do that with a analog house is because it is a piece of property, a good, that can be owned, sold and bought.
  
  If it isn’t a piece of property, a good, it can’t be owned, sold or bought. Maybe it’s time for you to read up on the fundamentals a bit?
  
  Secondly, in your confusing and irrelevant example, you are advocating reversed burden of proof. The one who should build a case is the one who advocates that a legislative monopoly should intrude into all peoples property rights. People do not have to build a case for why they don’t want their property rights intruded into by a legislate monopoly, because society doesn’t use reversed burden of proof. A non-ignorant person would know this, and an honest person would not try to shift the burden of proof.
  
  What’s your excuse? Ignorance or dishonesty?
  
  > “Piracy teaches digital workers..”
  
  Digital workers? Tron isn’t real you know.
  
  > “..their products are not as valuable as analog worker’s products.”
  
  Again, it’s not differentiated between analog and digital, it’s differentiated between goods and services. What you call a digital product is a service. Of course services are valued differently than goods, because they are fundamentally different. Maybe it’s time you learn these economical fundamental basics once and for all?
  
  Secondly, what these workers are taught is how the free market works, which is something they should have known from the beginning.
  
  > “Piracy diminishes the economic value of a format.”
  
  A format has no economical value. Goods and services have an economical value. Again, this is basic economical fundamentals, that you for some reason seems to not understand.
  
  Secondly, what diminished the economical value of certain antique goods and antique services is technological advancements, not piracy. When technology makes it possible for everyone to manufacture something for free, the economical value of selling that which can be manufacture for free is zero. That’s how it’s always worked with technological advancements. Had you studied any history, or economics, you would have known this as well.
  
  > “It’s absurd.”
  
  What’s absurd is that some weak failed entrepreneurs demand a legislative monopoly, despite the fact that society has no proven need for it. It’s a weak freetard mentality that no right minded entrepreneur would ever dream of displaying in public.
  
  What’s also absurd is the some people try to force an artificial price on something that holds no economical value, when all actual data proves that doing so would be harmful to both society, the economy and the creative process.
  
  > “And so are your selfish arguments of entitlement.”
  
  The natural entitlement that comes from owning property is selfish? Now it sounds as if you advocate communism.
- Guest
  
  “Or build a compelling ethical/moral case …”
  
  Why don’t you build a compelling ethical/moral case for why piracy is wrong, Chuckles?
- Anyone
  
  @Anon:
  if I can sell digital goods, tell me how I could sell my iTunes collection
Ivi

Hmm, if they own the rights and are using Torrents. So basically they are aware that by process of downloading it will be also uploaded by anyone. So by court, I could either show this as evidence of “you allow it to be shared using the technology”. By the process you where aware, how it will be distributed. If they say not us, then ask then for the IP. In both ways, either they prove that the IP is not theirs (win) or that they prove that they didn’t exclude their ip from pool (win). Anyway you can request then to prove that they didn’t started the share via Torrents and by IP pool scan excluded them selves, where as pointing to this article.
yiovio

http://lnk.co/KQ35L
Kyle Jackson

A classic example of, don’t do what I do, do what I say!
Inthernet

and the circle spin around.
Guest32

“What you guys all seem to forget is that businesses are made up of people, and some of them will do things that are not in line with the policies or in
the best interest of their industry. That doesn’t reflect on the industry, it only reflects on the poor choices of people willing to bite the hand that
feeds them.”

Maybe not, but the IP addresses belong to organizations having negotiated the six strikes
scheme, under whichthe account holder gets a strike or warning for piracy from his assigned IP address. The more less explicitly stated assumption is that the account holder is responsible for activity from his assigned IP address, or that he should be held responsible if he fails to lock down his network.

The organization can’t know everything done by its employees, and legally an IP address does not prove that the organization did it, so either the six strikes scheme is wrong in assuming that locking down a network is possible, or the the said organizations are as responsible as the home user under the six strikes scheme. You can’t have it both ways.
Anonymous

i can see the comments now:

these downloads were/are authorised.
the IP addresses are not ours!
the IP addresses listed dont mean a thing. they could all have been hacked!

all the very same excuses that are used when it’s ordinary people that are being accused. every instance being beyond reproach and totally accurate, with no chance of any possible mistake. nothing less than two-faced assholes that are backed by people that are doing the very thing that they are supposed to be against, that they are supposed to be preventing, that they are making new laws to protect the industries concerned. this shows even more that it is complete discrimination against ordinary people
PelouzeTF

“Perhaps what we can learn from this exercise is that there are BitTorrent pirates in all decent sized companies and institutions.”

Thx TF :) ….if it wasn’t for the Captain Obvious’ of the internet, how on earth would we become enlightened to things directly in front of our eyes.

Whats next ? Worker at film studio copies movie and distributes it ? Employee at game studio pre-releases new game on torrent ?

I honestly can’t wait :)
- Anyone
  
  the point is if those organisations can’t police their lines, why is that expected from regular users?
  
  another point is: how reliable is an IP address as “evidence”?
  - PelouzeTF
    
    Who says those organizations don’t have/take measures ?
    - Anyone
      
      clearly they are not effective
    - PelouzeTF
      
      You mean……Clearly they are not 100% effective.
    - Anyone
      
      I have no idea how effective they are, or if there even are any measures
      
      the point is, unless you shut down the internet, there will be online sharing, no matter what you do, and this proofs this
      
      not even the people in charge of this witch-hunt can stop it within their own sphere of influence, so what chance do they stand on a national or global scale?
      
      piracy cannot be stopped
    - PelouzeTF
      
      I doubt anyone is under the illusion that piracy can be fully stopped.
      
      It can be significantly tamed however.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “It can be significantly tamed however.”
      
      Nope. Piracy continues to grow, grow and grow. Every single time one filesharing protocol has been attacked by the authorities, as with Napster, or when users of a protocol gets the heat turned up, as with Direct Connect, they move on to the next generation in filesharing protocols.
      
      There already exist fully functioning next generation filesharing protocols that will take over if people feel Bittorrent gets to risky. F2F protocols that are completely unstoppable and untouchable from either legislative measures or technical countermeasures.
      
      When the masses move forward to these F2F protocols, the war on piracy is over and done with once and for all. Had you had any actual technical knowledge you would have understood this.
      
      But if you believe otherwise, please provide me with an actual factual technical explanation on how you stop F2F, and i will explain to you in great detail why you are wrong, and why that’s both technically and legislatively impossible.
chronoss

next up torrent freak exposes
YOU
( add russian joke here)
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@NTP

“Of course it does. The implementation of IPRED, DRD etc. includes such balancing of rights. It might not be in balance according to pirates but pirates
tend to look at things in black or white, completely free Internet or “cutting the cable”. Most people can see the nuances and actually understand what
balancing is.”
According to the Swedish implementation of the IPRED directive, even public sharing of one single music track or downloading is sufficiently serious to warrant discovery by the copyright holder.

Your sense of balancing and proportionality is seriously out of step with what ordinary people think is proportional and balancing.

However, according to the threshold set by the Swedish law, which I know is not applicable to this case, the offense would easily pass the proportionality requirement. Downloading of multiple copyrighted works and making available for the public even one single music track is sufficient to warrant discovery.

If someone using your connection persistently downloads a lot of copyrighted works through p2p, thereby seeding the pieces to other clients in the swarm, it’s likely sufficient to warrant discovery under the IPRED and possibly a criminal offense.
Read what yourself have written about what you think existing law requires and ought to require by home users and service providers. I think it’s likely that the RIAA and DOJ can’t technically identify the responsible individual, because logging is not easy and may often be cast into doubt.

According to what you argued in the Retroshare thread, an owner of a internet connection is responsible even for passing encrypted trafick if he has allowed his computer to participate in a encrypted network or failed to take sufficient measures to prevent infringement by others.

Since no measure short of banning all outbound encrypted trafick is sufficient to prvent employees from using the corporate network for illegal activity, you should now admit that the RIAA and DOJ (according to your own argumentative logic) ought to be liable for everything – in particular encrypted trafick.
- Anon
  
  For about 200 years the fundamental concept of copyright worked well. It delivered control to the creator and provided income from the creation.
  
  Today copyright no longer works well, but not because the concept isn’t sound or fundamentally fair. It’s just as sound and fair now as it has always been. Two things have changed.
  
  One is the technical ease through which it is now infringed. But the other is more important, the lack of respect brought by a subset of humanity who simply no longer cares about others and their sovereignty of creation, facilitated by a sense of selfish entitlement unprecedented in human history. Making a mixtape for a pal is one thing. Putting it up on bit torrent and destroying a once-existing for-sale market and the working class who depended upon it is something else entirely, something to which you have no right whatsoever, this is unprecedented in both technical scope and especially in social disrespect to the creator.
  
  Mutually respectful people will always have a sense of what is right, and why copyright law protects the creation for limited times and affords an income to the one who does (or supports) the work. Pirates make up a very small part of this, the much larger group of socially conscious still respects the rights of the rights holder and the current laws reflect all that. With such a small percentage supporting piracy and evidenced by the tiny PP, there is no reasonable forecast that this disrespect to the creator will spread far enough to change these laws and strip the creator of their lawful rights, rending the creator still the socially aggrieved and the pirate still the properly hunted.
  - Fredrika
    
    > “For about 200 years the fundamental concept of copyright..”
    
    In what way is copyright fundamental, when it is clearly stated that copyright isn’t a concept that exists out of principle, but to further a clearly identified sought after goal?
    
    > “..worked well.”
    
    Please study history. Copyright has been regularly infringed upon since it’s creation, and no punishments have ever stopped it, not even capital punishments.
    
    > “It delivered control to the creator..”
    
    Nope, the author, which doesn’t have to be the creator. Maybe you should read up on copyright a bit?
    
    > ..and provided income from the creation.”
    
    Nope. It provides no income whatsoever. Sales of goods and services provide income. A copyright monopoly is not needed for any sales to be able to take place.
    
    > “Today copyright no longer works well..”
    
    No longer? Please point out a single point in time when you believed it to work well, and i will properly educate you on why it didn’t work well at all during that point in time.
    
    > “..but not because the concept isn’t sound or fundamentally fair.”
    
    You are aware of the fact that you spoke of the concept copyright there, and not the monopoly? The concept of copyright is rarely challenged, it’s the monopoly that is.
    
    > “It’s just as sound and fair now as it has always been.”
    
    Do you not even know that copyright is on a conceptual level? It has nothing to do with anyone’s personal and subjective perception of fairness. It’s clearly identified as To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts”. Not one single word about anyone’s opinion of fairness.
    
    > “One is the technical ease through which it is now infringed.”
    
    Infringed? But you were speaking of copyright on a conceptual level? Now all of a sudden you shift and speak of the copyright monopoly? Maybe you should learn to keep those two different topics apart?
    
    > “..the lack of respect brought by a subset of humanity who simply no longer cares about others and their sovereignty of creation..”
    
    The reason people don’t care about that is because society has not proven need for that sovereignty, it shouldn’t be there in the first place.
    
    Of course people don’t respect something that shouldn’t be there in the first place, that intrudes into their property rights? That intrusion is what’s disrespectful.
    
    > “..facilitated by a sense of selfish entitlement unprecedented in human history.”
    
    On the contrary people have always felt entitled to their own property, that entitlement is one of the most natural things there is. Calling it selfish shows that you lack respect for property, and as such you also lack respect for human rights, western democracy, and the free market and capitalism, which are both based around the well established concept of property rights.
    
    > “Making a mixtape for a pal is one thing.”
    
    You have an opinion? One billion pirates have an opinion that says that filesharing with the entire globe is the same thing.
    
    > “Putting it up on bit torrent and destroying a once-existing for-sale market..”
    
    Nope, technological advancements destroyed that market, because the product no longer has an economical value, thanks to said technological advancements. That is a phenomena that has repeated itself many many times through out the last centuries.
    
    > “..and the working class who depended upon it..”
    
    You mean the artists that currently make more money than ever before? Or do you mean the employees in the industry that currently have higher revenues than ever before? Making more money than ever before isn’t really the same thing as destroyed, now is it?
    
    > “..is something else entirely..”
    
    Yes, it’s way way better than mix tapes.
    
    > “..something to which you have no right whatsoever..”
    
    What country are you speaking about? Because in many countries they have that exact right, and secondly, referencing what a law currently says in one particular country in not an argument for how things should be.
    
    > “..this is unprecedented in both technical scope..”
    
    Correct, filesharing is the best thing that has happened to culture since the printing press, but it’s even better. Everyone with a computer has free access to theoretically all culture ever created. the positive value of that is infinite, at the same time as no one seems to be able to find any negative value.
    
    > “..and especially in social disrespect to the creator.”
    
    Since the economical parts of the copyright monopoly has nothing to do with social respect for the creator, disobeying it shows no social disrespect. Maybe you should read up on copyright and learn the difference between the economical parts and the moral parts of copyright?
    
    > “Mutually respectful people will always have a sense of what is right..”
    
    Yes, they will, and to all those people an intrusion into peoples property rights and a disturbance of the free market by a legislative monopoly that society has no proven need for is obviously always wrong.
    
    > “..and why copyright law protects the creation for limited times..”
    
    People need no sense for what’s right to understand that, they simply read the part in the US constitution that clarifies it. To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, not to elevate a subjectively perceived opinion on what’s right to a general law.
    
    > “..and affords an income..”
    
    Affords an income?
    
    > “..to the one who does (or supports) the work.”
    
    Please take a basic course in social studies, ok? Legislative monopolies are never intended to benefit the monopoly holder. The public is the only legitimate stakeholder.
    
    > “Pirates make up a very small part of this..”
    
    The number of people who believe that a monopoly that society has no proven need for should go out the window would most likely range in the numbers of every sane non-ignorant person on this planet.
    
    > “..the much larger group of socially conscious still respects the rights of the rights holder..”
    
    Please study history. People have never through out history respected laws that society has no proven need for. Doing otherwise would in fact make you socially unconscious.
    
    > “..and the current laws reflect all that.”
    
    There has always been unjust laws that society has no proven need for, and their mere existence most certainly do not show that people agree with those laws.
    
    > “With such a small percentage supporting piracy..”
    
    A billion people commit piracy on a regular basis, because they see nothing wrong with it. One out of every seven human and growing by the day.
    
    > “..and evidenced by the tiny PP..”
    
    The numbers of one political party has no correlation whatsoever to the entire earth’s populations opinion on anything. It’s possible for the entire earth’s population to agree with PP, but still vote for another party. Logics isn’t your strong suit?
    
    > “..there is no reasonable forecast that this disrespect to the creator will spread far enough to change these laws and strip the creator of their lawful rights..”
    
    Yet PP managed to convince the only growing parliamentarian group in the parliament of the worlds strongest economy to copy their copyright program in no time at all, a fact that you are desperately afraid of even commenting on. Maybe analysing politics isn’t your strong suit either?
    
    > “..rending the creator still the socially aggrieved and the pirate still the properly hunted.”
    
    But as you are fully aware of, there already exists next generation F2F filesharing protocols which the entire earth’s population can fileshare illegally with completely safe, without the government or rights holders being able to do anything about it, neither legislatively nor technically, which means that the hunt is over and the pirates won.
    
    Another fact that you are desperately afraid of even commenting on.
    - Hello
      
      Useless rant
  - Guest
    
    > Today copyright no longer works well, but not because the concept isn’t sound or fundamentally fair.
    
    You think that copyright lasting longer than several lifetimes is sound and fundamentally fair? Someone’s been sucking hard on Pelouzey’s phallus, he has; that brain damage is showing again!
guess who

@the no to pirates twat: “No, the law is by no means made up.”

if it wasn’t made up, where the hell did it come from? let me guess, when the big bang happend, copywrong stupidity was created at the same time?
Guest

U.S., this is what your second amendment was written for. When are you going to get out of your armchairs and start using it?
Guest32

“The laws grant rights to the creator, in a very natural way – why shouldn’t the creator be in control of his own intellectual property in the same way as
you are with your property?”

No, the law does not secure a natural right of copyright. The Constitution actually only grants Congress the power to secure copyright for a limited time, but it does not secure anyone a natural perpetual right of property transferrable to heirs and descendants.
Copyright is not a human right but only a time limited monopoly. Even assuming the validity of the Supreme Court’s Eldred and Golan holdings accepting that Congress may retroactively extend copyright backwards in time, the only constitutional justification for copyright is purely utilitarian.

The United States has never fully implemented moral rights otherwise recognized in Europe. You claim that copyright was uncontested for two centuries, so I assume that you don’t mind rolling bback copyright to the 14 year term granted by the original US copyright act?
All extensions of copyright in the DMCA and the extension of criminal copyright are very recent inventions. Originally copyright was only a civil matter, and if copyright is to be respected, it should remain a civil claim.

You can’t have it both ways.
mntdewbee

It’s likely going to be shrugged off by the entertainment industry’s lobbyists. Introspection is not exactly their strong suit.
mntdewbee

It’s likely going to be shrugged off by the entertainment industry’s lobbyists. Introspection is not exactly their strong suit.
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heh, Sony is not blocking Bit torrent ports or packet shaping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdKr1jlDzW4
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xpmule

bait or employees downloading ?

all major large co’s commonly have next to no internet security ? really ?

if i worked for any one of the business mentioned i sure as hell wouldn’t be using bit torrent at work.. ever !
I bet some might but i also bet most of the results are from other reasons..
such as bait or error or what ever..

is it really common for people to download all this stuff at places like this ?
or is it more likely from various entrapment schemes designed to drum up extortion money ?
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i just passed the link to this onto the uk pirate party, with any luck they can use it to further our right to culture and information.
jiasusheng

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https://profiles.google.com/107742621326797719445 Andre M

Sh!t just got even more serious, f*cked up and crap right now!
tushu

http://lnk.co/KQ35L
http://thepiratebay.se/user/SCSA420 StoneCold420

FUCK THE FEDS
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Keep in mind that anyone can get a microsoft ip using windows azure…
Guest

No one is innocent. My friend who’s a cop downloads once in awhile some old classic music. I bet you anything that even the president of the US downloads.
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MIKEDOGG

Here’s what I am thinking: All hacktivist groups around the world (maybe anonymous) need to breach TV, the radio, and any other types of live media sources to get crucial information like this more out there.
Lilith12

This seems fishy considering Game of Thrones only has 2 seasons out so far…
camelsnot

Post it here doesn’t matter. Nothing will happen to anyone at the organizations, or the organizations as a whole. It’s easier and cheaper to go after basic consumers who have no legal representation or aren’t in collusion with each other. Seriously thing about it. Sony won’t go after someone at Universal because they have a mutual understanding that it’s better to have a unified front and go after the little guy instead. Also they don’t want the mass bad press on internal pirating. Pirating from corporations and governments is considered an accepted loss.

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