Fox News, Rupert Murdoch… All Pirates

Ernesto
May 3, 2010
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Fox News, a prominent media outlet owned by copyright evangelist Rupert Murdoch, is blatantly infringing on the rights of an individual photographer. The irony, or hypocrisy, is that Murdoch himself is going after Google, the BBC and many other companies that he believes are infringing on the rights of his news empire.

fox Copyright is a double edged sword, and those who sharpen one side often get cut by the other. Two weeks ago we reported that the gadget blog Gizmodo was going after bloggers who copied their work without permission, while they were ‘stealing’ from photographers themselves.

Now, one of the photographers has written in again, pointing us to a photo gallery of the Icelandic volcano eruption last month that was published on Fox News. Like Gizmodo, Fox News is also exploiting the work of Flickr user Orvatli without permission. This clearly violates his copyrights and Örvar is not pleased, to say the least.

“This was a once in a lifetime photo session for me and these big media companies are ruining the value of my images by publishing them. Each time the image gets published their value decreases,” Örvar told TorrentFreak. “Publishers generally want unique and unpublished images on their media so a rarely or unpublished image has higher value than those everybody has seen,” he added.

As with Gizmodo, Örvar sent an invoice to Fox News to get paid for his work. Although Gizmodo eventually paid half of his standard fee after he kept complaining, Fox News is not responding to his inquiries at all. Fox News is obviously not living up to its “Fair & Balanced” tagline.

Now, we probably wouldn’t have covered this issue if Fox News wasn’t owned by Rupert Murdoch. The multi-media tycoon is a known copyright evangelist who accuses Google and other search engines of copyright infringement for indexing the websites of his newspapers.

Murdoch’s News Corp. outfit also owns the film studio 20th Century Fox, an MPAA member that has launched several lawsuits against against torrent sites, including The Pirate Bay. It seems that Murdoch has a double standard when it comes to copyright infringement. Apparently it’s not that bad if he’s the one making money from it.

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dannyboy

i guess what’s not good for the goose is good for the gander!!

Fuck These corporation$…
dannyboy

i guess what’s not good for the goose is good for the gander!!

F**k These corporation$…
duane

Also, note that Murdoch’s companies infringe copyright for PROFIT, as opposed to filesharers who infringe copyright for personal use.

That’s why his hypocrisy stings so much!
Rupert Asshole

What a typical rich guy practicing duchebaggery…….infringing copyright but still going after everybody else for the same thing…..fuking idiots at fox news
Gary

One word… “hypocrisy“
quasimodo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quod_licet_Iovi,_non_licet_bovi

The more things change, the more things remain the same …
r3loaded

“Fox News is obviously not living up to its “Fair & Balanced” tagline.”

Correction: “Fox News never lived up to its undeserved “Fair & Balanced” tagline, and this copyright infringement case is just yet another example.
Devanite

hmmm, I notice the guy who said, “que all the people saying corporations are all corrupt bull****” on a different story is keeping quiet, wise decision!
POW

Hey, at least they had the class to acknowledge him as the source. That has to count for something, right?
Devanite

So you are saying that every file we download is OK as long as we acknowledge who the source is?
Seth

“Now, we probably wouldn’t have covered this issue if Fox News wasn’t owned by Rupert Murdoch.”

So you have double standards too? I would have thought you would be doing this to help the photographer, not so you can use it to take pot shots at Murdoch.
Souler

One thing after another…. they either abuse the laws or go hypocritical and then deny it ever did.

Will some one PLEASE drop a bmomb on them or assasinate every one of these dipshits?

I’m getting bored of seing the same shit all over and over again. It’s not even a surprise that “this” or “that” happens. It’s just so fucking retarded all the time. The big corporations are just going after profit. Damnit I wish there was a faster way of doing something. I’m just getting exhausted from all of this crap.
jokr

@seth

wow, not every day you see someone defending mr. burns.. i mean, rupert murdoch.
Zush

“Fair & Balanced”

You gotta be kidding.
duane

@10 Devanite

That’s plagiarism, which is UNETHICAL, however it’s a different issue from copyright infringement which is ILLEGAL. There is nothing anyone can do to change the ethical status of something, but laws can certainly be changed. That’s what the copyfight is all about.

I personally believe it’s OK for people to download as long as they don’t make money off it. If money is made, then the artists should be paid.
Bad_Mojo

Its a typo.

Fox News
Fairly Unbalanced
Trelew

Unfortunately, this is the usual double standard that Big Business and governments use…”Do as I as say, not as I do”

Typical bully mentality
.neo.stylesnv|DX

#3

Does that mean as long as you infringe copyright for PROFIT then it’s ok to do so?
SewerSurf

@14

thats exactly right :)
duane

@17 neostyles

Of course. Non-commercial infringement is evil and it’s plain stealing from the creators, but commercial infringement is great. /sarcasm
Random

Am I the only one wondering why he doesn’t stop posting on Flickr if his photos are getting stolen?

Like um. He wants to get them published, but he’s posting them on flickr where heaps of ppl will see and maybe steal.

Just my thoughts are reading the gizmodo and this article
Random

**After reading
anonymous

@19

One of the reasons if that he wants to sell them. You know, make a living?.. If you want to use those photos for commercial purposes then you have to pay.
Ninja

Oh, the bitter hypocrisy… As pointed already in the comments the case is even worse because he [and Fox] accuses common folks like us and file sharing sites of using their material for profit (which isn’t true for most cases) and yet this is exactly what Fox is doing.

Irony at its finest. Maybe this is why they are using child porn to push more surveillance on us. Pitiful, hypocritical and disgusting.
Don Winney

Wow, that Murdoch dude is a total tool is he not? Incredible.

anon-web-tools.es.tc
Brett

“This was a once in a lifetime photo session for me…”

Fuck you, fox news.
storm

DEMONOID IS BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jason

Am I the only one who is wondering if this photographer has EVER heard of watermarks?

You know, the thing that professional photographers have been using for decades to PROTECT THEIR WORK, you dumbass?

Geez… he deserved what he got.
neostyles

No doubt they learned from the best. When people pretend that something is free just because it is on the internet, others are guaranteed to follow.
cobran

Watching the Colbert Report / The Daily Show has shown me how ridiculously unbalanced and unfair Fox News really is. And I tell you, it’s much much worse than stealing some poor guys photos off the internet. Just to add, I’m a European and thusly do not have many chances to get a glimpse of the US media (corporations).

Greetings from Germany :)
Anonymous

“You know, the thing that professional photographers have been using for decades to PROTECT THEIR WORK, you dumbass?

Geez… he deserved what he got.”

Blaming the victim again!

The dumbass is you!
Anonymous

DEMONOID IS BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh Boy!

The whack a mole game continue.
Gah

To #25 (Jason)

You know that you can photoshop off watermarks easily, right ?

It would take less than 5 minutes per photo.
time traveling white rabbit

what did you expect from a ”shapeshifter” like murdoch?
business as uasual in his hypocrytical faux news world order
Devanite

@ 14 duane

Oh i completely agree that filesharers are no different then those who listen to the radio and watch TV

I was merely pointing out a loophole in the arguement

As for being unethical, well, thats big business for you, if its ethical it seems it wont turn a profit.

As for Illegal, I listen to the radio and used to record stuff on a blank cassette (were talking early 90′s) does this mean I have been stealing all my life, should I have been working in the mines to earn that extra 25 dollars for that CD?
Einstein

HA! Is anybody surprised that FOX is hypocritical?
Nemo

Fox News is so full of shit. I can’t believe that anyone would take their programs seriously in the first place, but this just goes to show that they’re all over not practicing what they preach. No surprises.
Yarick

Am I the only one who is not surprised at all about this? Far as I can tell the whole industry is based around people getting paid for the work of others.
AnarchyNow

So you discover that worse-than-nazi totalitarian billionaires are above the law, and they work like “do what I say, don’t do what I do”.
Kill all billionaires, this Murdoch deserves to die like Gates and Jobs and all the others little Hitlers.
Scooby Doo

I suggest that someone establish a website like wikiliaks. Everyone who are having their own personal copyrights violated, will post them to the website.

If “they” (the companies) are violating users privacy and their rights, it would be great to have those companies defaced and exposed to the public as well.
lol

what tards..

i cant wait until all these fake rules no longer exist.. its nauseating.
politux

Fox News isn’t Fair and Balanced? Next you’re going to tell me the sky is blue.
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Unauthorized Content Consumer

I want to make something perfectly clear for everyone once and for all:

1) Piracy that is for it’s own personal is good for everyone. It is free promotion for the artists, corporate executives and their lawyers. The RIAA/MPAA/media groups will do everything in their power to stop this and spend millions of dollars each year to stop something that can never be stopped.

2) Piracy that that is sold and distributed for private and personal profit is harmful to all of society (because they could be funding other illegal activities), consumers, artists, corporate executives and their lawyers. This is rampant in certain countries and yet the RIAA/MPAA does nothing to stop it.

3) Piracy that is committed by the media corporations is the most hideous of all. No one likes a hypocrite and corporations that blatantly profits by stealing from artists is pure and absolute hypocrisy. This is very harmful to the artist and the artist alone.

So there’s a difference between us pirates and everyone else: We’re not in it for profit, and yes we are doing absolutely nothing wrong by consuming 0′s and 1′s. We eventually spend our money on corporate crap.

The millions of us can’t be stopped, so the privileged few better learn to live with us.
Brandon

So Murdoch can get AWAY with copyright infringement for profit and not get into trouble. I guess next he will be selling pirated dvd’s and laughing about it…
MARCELO

well i agree xx
lulz

Corporations are the blood that keeps governments alive. They weild more power than most people are aware of. People still believe power resides with government alone. Or with the people themselves. It does not.
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Anonymous

Actually it sounds like the different companies owned by Murdock all have different policies.

What’s sad is that Flickr never gets involved with these cases. A simple letter from that company probably would do a lot of good. Our local ABC affiliate uses Flickr photos all the time and Flickr users complain about never getting any help from that company.
LAkawak

Hey dumb fuck…if you take a “once in a lifetime” set of images…DON’T UPLOAD THEM TO FLICKR! If you do, maybe read the fucking TOS that where you give them the right to sell your images. You made yourself look foolish by sending an invoice to Fox News. They already PAID for your images. They paid Flickr. Your beef is with Getty Images, not Fox News.

Don’t be a cheap bastard next time and host the images yourself. Pay for the bandwidth.
gorehound

Rupert Murdoch ASSHOLE !!!
one good reason why i do not buy any new dvd/bluray from these shysters.
i buy all dtuff used.studios get zero and i get movie.
jujst this year alone i have cause them to lose maybe around $500 by not buying new and finding stuff used.

all these studios can do what they want to.they got the money.
stop feeding them !!!
vball

Anonymous in post 41…the reason why Flickr never gets involved is because THEY SOLD THE RIGHTS! ALL the major news channels have standing deals with Flickr. That is one of the ways Flickr makes money. Anyone who thinks that sites can host images solely through internet advertisement to pay for it is a fool. Read your TOS people! Flickr has the right to sell your images. If you don’t ike it, then pay the money to host it yourself.
SomKen

Fuck Fox.
Ang3r

Orvar is a rights holder.
Does he get the account holders name in the ACTA legislation????
No, wait, he’s just a peasant like the rest of us, the ACTA will benefit government (not democracy) and rights holders (not Orvar).
T. Dude

@42 – you seem to be confusing Flickr and Facebook. Flickr does not have the right to sell your images. It is noted for its high flexibility of copyright and Creative Commons licensing. Many professional photographers host their photos there.

FYI, I suspect they make most of their money through the annual fee most experienced Flickr users pay. The free users are very limited in bandwidth and storage.
Thraprod

“So you have double standards too? I would have thought you would be doing this to help the photographer, not so you can use it to take pot shots at Murdoch.”

Moreso a matter of it wouldn’t have been as interesting of an article without it, and thus wouldn’t have gotten as many readers. Saying that’s a double standard is like saying a real newspaper has one for bumping “Random possum hit by car” (assuming there is nothing special about the possum, car, or driver) in favor of the “Huge fire in orphanage kills many children!” story.
T. Dude

Also, if his pictures were sold by Getty Images, then they would have already approached him about the specific photos in question, featured them on their site as well, and he would have gotten paid. Flickr enables their users to more easily sell their work through Getty Images, it doesn’t steal their stuff for it.

Assuming Getty Images didn’t approach him and he didn’t already get paid, or he didn’t accidentally license his photos under Creative Commons or something and retained full copyright on Flickr, he has a legit beef. Flickr isn’t Facebook, Yahoo! (their parent) doesn’t have any rights over your photos on Flickr.

The question is whether he can afford to sue Fox for his fee.
Lakawak

Flickr DOES take hte right to sell your videos. It specifically says in their TOS that you are signing a contract agreing to allow Flickr to sell your photos on your behalf. Yes…they are then supposed to pay you something for it. But that is an issue with Getty Images, not Fox. But you cannot ignore the FACTS that are written in black and white in the TOS and FAQ.
Anonymous

——–
| Fox | Total & Utter
| News | Bullsh1t
——–
Wanker!

Murdoch’s British heaps of shit he calls ‘newspapers’ are, like him, a waste of space.
Slick

This seems to be more about hating Fox News than the actual story about copyright infringement. Rupert Murdoch is the Chairman and CEO of News Corporation which is a multi-media outlet not just Fox News Channel
Jeff

Once again, Big Content shows the rest of the world that they are the biggest copyright scofflaws on the entire planet.

Copyright (or should that be wrong) hypocrisy indeed.
PhotoKid

Shit like this is the reason I don’t feel like sharing my photos online publicly. I don’t want something I’ve created just showing up and one of these asswipe’s web pages with little to no credit, while they make money for free. It just kills me when people use other peoples material to make money. Sure you can download picture for personal use, but not personal gain. Fuck you Fox.
Mystik

Here is another even more interesting Question, does he even own the rights to the images/video he took. Fox, via the Motion Picture division, owns commercial licenses to the Codecs. So would that mean Fox was in the clear to use it commercially where the original photographer was not?

This is another great example of how screwed up copyright and patents have become…

“On top of that, a whole bunch of you have been submitting this somewhat speculative story that notes that MPEG-LA has structured its licensing program in such a way that pretty much any video camera you buy — even the so-called “professional” ones — includes a clause saying that it’s only for “personal and non-commercial use,” because MPEG-LA’s licensing terms for anything else are ridiculously high. It appears that this clause has been almost universally ignored by… well… pretty much everyone. But if MPEG-LA is suddenly moving into more questionable means of bringing in revenue… it could get more troubling quickly.”

Read the full TechDirt Article Here

Why Is MPEG-LA Getting Into The Patent Trolling Game?
http://techdirt.com/articles/20100430/0232599255.shtml

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Rum

Hypocrisy eh?

what’s new?
Fox News FTW

Fox News is the ONLY Real News Channel on TV.

Their the Only ones with enough Balls to report what the other Dying news organizations won’t.

Before ya’ll run your big fat pie holes, check the ratings, idiots. LOL
Fox News FTW

Maybe this will help all of you Obama sheep to see wazup.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/04/27/fox-crushes-competition-in-weeks-adults-18-49-ratings/49717

Now what idiots. Bahhhh

One of these days maybe you’ll see the light, but I doubt it.
Lothor The Evil

“Publishers generally want unique and unpublished images on their media so a rarely or unpublished image has higher value than those everybody has seen,”

Then why the fuck did he post his images on Flickr? If you don’t want everybody to see your photos because it will devalue them, then don’t post them on the goddamn internet. ‘Cause once something is on the net, it quickly spreads around to lots of sites. Torrent sites for example. If one torrent site is shut down, the same stuff can be found on many other torrent sites.
Sometimes the “victim” is the instigator. It’s like begging someone to punch you in the face and when they do, you press assault charges on them, claiming to be a victim, when in reality YOU ASKED FOR IT. Jesus Christ some people seriously lack some common sense in this fucking world.
Huggybaby

@30: Watching the Colbert Report and The Daily Show will only show you how ridiculously unbalanced and unfair the Colbert Report and The Daily Show are.

If you’re in Europe and this is how you get our political news, you are being misguided, because these shows are unabashedly left wing. The only time they criticize the current president is when he’s not being “progressive” enough, as hard as that is to imagine. Wait, you’re in the EU so our prez probably looks like a centrist to you.
Lakawak

54…what a HORRIBLE analogy. ther is a huge differnece between choosing one story (orphanagefire) over another (possum killed by car) and taking the SAME story and turning it into bullshit. The fact that you even suggested that was hte same shows you are either unwilling to have an intelligent debate on this, or incapable due to lack of intelligence. So which is it?
Lothor The Evil

@30 cobran
“Watching the Colbert Report / The Daily Show has shown me how ridiculously unbalanced and unfair Fox News really is.”
You are an idiot. Both The Daily Show and The Colbert Report are on COMEDY CENTRAL, NOT FOX YOU DUMBASS!

“Just to add, I’m a European and thusly do not have many chances to get a glimpse of the US media (corporations).”
So you’re getting a glimpse of US news media about Fox News from two T.V. shows that aren’t even aired on Fox? You really don’t know shit about America do you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colbert_report
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Show
Both shows are listed under Genre as, OMG! GASP!, “COMEDY, SATIRE, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: NEWS PARODY”!
I have watched these shows in the past. They don’t report the news. THEY MAKE FUN OF THE NEWS! Anybody who takes these shows seriously are very misguided.

“Greetings from Germany :)”
The United States of America isn’t the one who put Adolph Hitler into power, now are we? Don’t talk sh!t about a country you know nothing about. We saved your asses in World War 2.
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Corporation

They do not care about artist/music/copyright all they care is MONEY.
They will even sell their own mother for money.
Anonymous

“McClellan: Fox News Commentators Use The ‘Talking Points’ That The White House Sends Them”

“FOX television as a tool” to get the White House’s “message out”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/26/mcclellan-fox-talking-points/

Nobody is saying that tapayer money was paid to Fox News Channel. Taxpayer money was spent paying the salaries of government employees, using government equipent, to disseminate misinformation to a privately owned media outlet for the express purpose of deceiving the public. That is, after all, what they have been doing all along.

There is one video of president Bush and some other person walking on the white house lawn where it exposed Fox News as a white house too. I can’t seem to find it atm on limited bandwidth I have atm but when I came across it previously it was removed from the net everywhere “this video does not exist” even though there was a thumbnail where it was shown for youtube.

Also there is some videos (“video does not exist also” same situation that exposed Sean Hennedy and some other fox guy as dumb staged propaganda tools. They are supposed to be fed a script of everything (not really thinking for themselves as its all staged)

Do your research folks. Fox news is a White House Tool (White House if full of pedos too. Search white house pedo ring (conspiracy of silence, etc)
tea

“McClellan: Fox News Commentators Use The ‘Talking Points’ That The White House Sends Them”

“FOX television as a tool” to get the White House’s “message out”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/26/mcclellan-fox-talking-points/

Nobody is saying that tapayer money was paid to Fox News Channel. Taxpayer money was spent paying the salaries of government employees, using government equipent, to disseminate misinformation to a privately owned media outlet for the express purpose of deceiving the public. That is, after all, what they have been doing all along.

There is one video of president Bush and some other person walking on the white house lawn where it exposed Fox News as a white house too. I can’t seem to find it atm on limited bandwidth I have atm but when I came across it previously it was removed from the net everywhere “this video does not exist” even though there was a thumbnail where it was shown for youtube.

Also there is some videos (“video does not exist also” same situation that exposed Sean Hennedy and some other fox guy as dumb staged propaganda tools. They are supposed to be fed a script of everything (not really thinking for themselves as its all staged)

Do your research folks. Fox news is a White House Tool (White House if full of pe dos too. Search white house pe do ring (conspiracy of silence, etc)
Lothor The Evil

@70 and 71
(nice double post lol)

“Do your research folks. Fox news is a White House Tool (White House if full of pe dos too. Search white house pe do ring (conspiracy of silence, etc)”

And you don’t think any other news organization is not a white house propaganda tool?
My theory is: all news organizations are full of propaganda and told what to report on and exactly what to say by the government. And news organizations that seem to hate each other and disagree on everything are just putting on an act to boost their ratings.
KEB

Yes, it’s bad, but if you don’t want your pictures stolen….. don’t put them on Flickr!
Anonymous

“Fair & Balanced”

That has nothing to do with their business practices. That has do do with their coverage. You sir just failed bad at the internet.
lverona

While in general I sympathize with the photographer, I also believe that most of what he says is bullshit.

“each time the image gets published their value decreases”

really, this is nonsense. it’s all in his mind. it’s not like each time something gets published its value really decreases. this is stupid.

also, what’s funny is that this guy wants to be paid. which is curious. and basically makes him pro-copyright. if paying him solves the issue and makes him happy, then this is a weird trend in society – money can make anyone happy with his works being used.

I always thought people do make things to be used. All of this is very weird – for thousands of years composers and artists made songs to be sung, portraits to be displayed, sculptures to be used. Today it seems people do everything to make all of what they do forgotten as quickly as possible by prohibiting it for distribution and usage.

So yeah, it is a double standard on part of the FOX News, but I think that common people should be wiser and not play the same game.
Mike

Do copyright damages for pictures work the same way as for songs? ie: a set damages amount for each copy made? If so, how many people downloaded a copy of the picture from the news site, and does that equate to billions in copyright damages?
Bruin

Just another nail in the coffin for photojournalism.

My advice, never post high quality/ high res images and secondly always watermark.
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StevO

Bahh were all pirates, even when we try to make Betty Crocker recipes and didnt buy the cookbook.
Anonymous

@65
Yeah sure they(might) be left wing(not like Mr. Stewart ever makes fun of msnbc… oh wait, he fucking shits on them too) but the difference is that Jon Stewart NEVER pretends to be a real newscaster, if you’d ever seen the show he repeatedly denies it. Whereas Faux “Fair and balanced” News clearly tries to pretend that it isn’t a GOP mouthpiece, when its pretty obvious to anyone but card carrying KKK/NRA members that it is. Jus sayin’

PS nice troll, bitch
Anonymous

If you don’t know who Rupert Murdoch or Fox News is, watch the documentary called: Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch’s War on Journalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outfoxed
grammar nazi

> several lawsuits against against torrent sites,

TF, fix it pls
magpiie

Its a pain in the ass but unfortunately fox news can afford to pay the guy damages without even batting an eye lid, unfortunately, the photographer wont make the money he was hoping and undoubtedly fox news and the like, will carry on doing as they please. nobody has the balls nor the money to stop them, same as the rest of the corporate empires throughout the world, they wont stop till they own EVERYTHING
Floyd

Someone should make a torrent of all these pictures:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/orvaratli/

I bet w/ enough copies, we could give the images negative value.
Darkflame

Lothor The Evil – The Daily Show IS a perfect tool to evaluate Fox news precisely *because* it is independent from them.
Likewise is you wanted to evaluate the Daily Shows accuracy, you wouldn’t ask themselves.

cobran is not a “dumb ass”. He doesn’t think the daily show is on Fox.

Also, its a satirical show commenting on real news. They dont make stuff up or fake footage on other channels.
You can accuse them of selective-ism, but you cant dismiss them because they are a comedy show.

Indeed, Foxs own study concluded that the daily show had just as much substance to the storeys as they did;

http://newsinfo.iu.edu/web/page/normal/4159.html

Given the daily show isnt the one claiming to be a news source, let alone “fair and balanced”. This should be highly embarrassing to Fox.

===

” Today it seems people do everything to make all of what they do forgotten as quickly as possible by prohibiting it for distribution and usage.”

But the guy *is* sharing his work with the world on Flikr.
He mearly wants to be paid if someone use’s it for profit :?
Seems fair to me.
Anonymous

So, uh . . . how is this different from any other person who downloads files they haven’t paid for?

Does anyone see the connection here? Just . . . wow.
Chicory

So, uh . . . how is this different from any other person who downloads files they haven’t paid for?

Does anyone see the connection here? Just . . . wow.
Rupert Murdoch

I broke TorrentFreak! You can break it too! Just go to: http://torrentfreak.com/\

We’ll show these net neutrality supporting, file sharing bastards what happens when they mess with FOX!
lverona

@Darkflame

“But the guy *is* sharing his work with the world on Flikr.
He mearly wants to be paid if someone use’s it for profit :?
Seems fair to me.”

I don’t understand this logic. Seems like jealousy wrapped up in ethics and law.

The situation is simple – for instance, to setup a music store where you would sell music written by other people you have to invest a lot of energy, your own money and time. In order to make it run for long you have to be a talented salesman. And when you are selling music written by someone else, you are doing a job. A job you are getting money for.

An artist getting royalties is a situation when a person gets money for a work done once. Is that fair?

I think it might be fair for professions which are potentially poor professions anyway – and that is first of all writers.

Musicians and photographers can easily make a living without getting money for each use of copies of their work. A simple credit is enough. In fact, I think if the guy was credited, he would not be angry, it would be a serious promotion.
NATURAL SELECTION

Corporations are full of psychopaths and sociopaths. Just like Fox News.

Hypocrisy is endemic.
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Anonymouse

DMCA Fox!
CaPtAiN KiDd

Maybe it’s a generational thing, but if I were that photographer I would of been thinking in the realm of “wow, what a great image i’ve captured for the world to see”.

Next up?

Copyrighting all of nature and no redistribution of photos or videos of its activities without the expressed written consent of God!
orvaratli

I am the rightful owner the images in question.

First of all I would like to thank Ernesto for a great blog and it has been very interesting to follow the comments to this post.

I am all for free stuff on the internet for personal use. If people like to copy my images for their desktop, blog post, birthday card or what ever then go ahead, it is fine be me. I post my images on flickr for the world to see and to enjoy. If somebody shares them on their personal page then great. I however draw the line when a corporation uses my images for profits.

I will not watermark them as a proper watermark will ruin the image (a musician would not put a annoying tone in its art to prevent illegal use). Having no watermark does not give anybody the right to illegally use my image.

I used to have my images under a CC-NC license. When I get a confirmation that it actually holds water against illegal use by corporations I will put them under CC-NC license again.
Devanite

Alright I love posts like #64′s saying that ratings somehow justify theft, can we please have an IQ rating screen for this?
Cordelia

The difference between Fox Media and the media in China, North Korea etc is that they DON’T claim to be “fair and equal” whereas Fox does!

All their readers know that the truth is found between the lines and in what’s not being said…

And some of what the media in these countries say is surprisingly accurate.

But I bet millions of Fox News’ viewers are convinced that what they see is unbiased reporting.
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jimono

i say we all contribute to a fund to call a hit on him and his kind!! enough is enough!
Anonymous

“If you’re in Europe and this is how you get our political news, you are being misguided, because these shows are unabashedly left wing. The only time they criticize the current president is when he’s not being “progressive” enough, as hard as that is to imagine. Wait, you’re in the EU so our prez probably looks like a centrist to you.”

He supports the private ownership of capital, so he’s a capitalist. That makes him right wing. He’s a little less than some former presidents, but he still is right wing.
qewrty

ahhh fox news never fails to dissapoint
Sanity_Vocal

Someone should sue the fellow. DO it in the US, so potentially can get US$ Millions in payout.
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Anonymous

Fox is evil… Everybody knows that. They are extreme right-wind Christian fundamentalist Jew patriot pro-Israel anti-truth government-cover-up brainwashers!
Fox News FTW

95 May 04, 2010 at 20:59 by Devanite
Alright I love posts like #64’s saying that ratings somehow justify theft, can we please have an IQ rating screen for this?

LOL @ “Dah”vanite

Do you “justify theft”? You know you’ve stolen Copyrighted Material, and these Pix that were put up on Flickr, of all places, is free game, as far as I’m concerned.

This whole blog is a joke. You really think any “joe blow” that takes a nice picture and then uploads it to a public hosting site, is going to Fu@k with the Shear Money and Power that Murdoch has? LoLoLoLoLo. Dumb A$$E$

Mr. Örvar, Do you Really have a copyright on these Pix??

Of coarse Not. Get over it Jack@$$, and stop trying to swindle money out of someone that is more fortunate than yourself. Get a job!!
an0nym0us

@101

“Mr. Örvar, Do you Really have a copyright on these Pix??

Of coarse Not. Get over it Jack@$$, and stop trying to swindle money out of someone that is more fortunate than yourself. Get a job!!”

WTF are you talking about?

If he took the photographs then copyright is automatic

“can we please have an IQ rating screen for this?”

I’d love to see your IQ rating – But I suspect they don’t go into negative numbers

Oh – And why don’t you learn some spelling and grammar before you go out in public next time

Right – I’m off to copy some of Fox’s pages and publish them for free elsewhere…..
Craig

FOX News is the only major network reporting at least some TRUTH in regard to Obama’s liberal/socialist agenda. Why not rag on NBC? They are owned by GE who receives Obama money and clearly displays the most bias in TV news.

The truth is that Obama is “fundamentally transforming” this country with unsustainable socialist programs, unfunded liabilities, and bad debt, while we should be RESTORING America to her original beauty. The character of America, the dollar, and our economy are just a few things being threatened…

Whether you watch FOX, CNN or The Daily Show, it’s critical to watch and read a balanced plate of news to see the many sides of the story and then make your own conclusions on what “the truth” really is, based on your own principles, values, character and viewpoints and not just that of the news anchor.
Anonymouses

WOW, i do watch fox news only cause they tell a least a little truth with their subjects, but this again shows how the mass medias, such as CNN, MSNBC, Fox, CBS, and etc. news stations can not be trusted. For one they all spew political bullshit, and hype up situations to make them worse than they are. Then spew the same anti-piracy and anti-downloading copyrighted material cause they lose maybe 500k to 1 million dollars a movie to downloaders when they make a head way of what? 200 million? …. when they themselves steal photos from a poor old photographer and don’t even pay him at least half the price for them. Hypocrisy in its purest form. … makes me sick of watching their stupid ass movies they care some much about.
Mouse

lol Craig, you talk about being balance yet all the things you stated came from FoxNews.

Do you know an unsustainable socialist program which people, democrats or republicans, won’t end and will fight til their death to see it exist? I do, it’s Socialist Security.
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