France Passes “Three Strikes” Anti-Piracy Law
Written by Ernesto on May 12, 2009The controversial French HADOPI anti-piracy law was passed by the National Assembly today, one step closer to being signed into action. The new law introduces draconian measures to combat piracy including a “three strikes” regime for persistent offenders.
In an attempt to reduce piracy, the French have passed a new law requiring Internet service providers to cut off Internet access for repeat copyright infringers. Under the new ‘HADOPI’ legislation ISPs have to warn their customers twice that they are accused of infringing copyright. If both warnings are ignored, Internet access for that subscriber will be terminated for up to a year – and they’ll have to keep paying their ISP bill throughout this period too.
The law goes much further than disconnecting alleged file-sharers though. In addition it is now possible to take “any action” in order to put a halt to copyright infringement. For example, websites can be blocked without having to provide hard evidence that they are engaging in illegal activities. The Pirate Bay has already been mentioned as one of the sites that could be easily taken out under the new law.
This afternoon the National Assembly passed HADOPI with 296 votes in favor and 233 against. The law was already supposed to have passed in early April, but at the time the Socialists block turned up unannounced, outnumbering the deputies from the UMP. The law will now be voted on in the Senate tomorrow after which it will be final.
As with most technical issues, the people who had to decide on the law have no clue about file-sharing at all. As we reported earlier, many of the politicians don’t know what BitTorrent is, or how it works. Yet they get to decide the fate of millions of Internet users.
HADOPI goes against the Telecoms Package of the European Parliament which aims to protect European citizens against such disproportionate legislation because it violates the rights and freedoms of Internet users. A few days ago HADOPI already claimed its first victim, the head of web innovation at the largest TV network in France who criticized the law in a letter to his MP. More victims are likely to follow in the months to come.
Update (May 13): The Senate passed the new law with 189 votes in favor and 14 against.
Previously: UK Entertainment Industry Wants to Disconnect Pirates
Next: BitTorrent: King of Copyright Infringements
122 Responses
My sympathies go out to those in France.
And it’ll be just a matter of time until this law’ll be passed in the UK, regardless of what the ISPs want. ;_;
Hopefully, French’s will get wines bottles into their anus.
They still have to pay the bill oh lovely .. great insentive for ISP cooperation .. money and no work.
My sympathies go out to the French populus, especially the elderly and relatives of those who are dead who will be falsely accused. Proof that those with money and power would rather restrict people’s rights than reform themselves to take advantage of advancements in thinking and technology.
“it is now possible to take “any action” in order to put a halt to copyright infringement.”
Hmmm, they’re going to hire assasins to come wack downloaders.
They want to be Judge and Jury, may as well add Executioner to the list.
I think that the only way to get the 3 strikes repealed is for hackers to use politician’s bandwidth to download copyright material. When the majority of politicians are sitting on a second strike, they’ll realise how unfair the law is.
@ 6
More likely they would just go bat shit insane and push for more restrictive legislation and use the hackings as proof that file sharers are criminals (which is false).
proxy wins :)
just means the boozers will be full of people using the free wifi. Or lots of people sitting around council offices.
France just lost their democracy?
From what I understand; they can force the ISPs to stop delivering internet to the subscriber WITHOUT a court decision?
@8,
Ya, too bad that 99% of the people using p2p doesn’t know how to use stuff like that.
It’s only a matter of time before they disconnect hundreds….then thousands…and so on. Then there’ll be protests on the street. Bet the record companies will unleash their own SWAT teams to squash these protests!
just don’t vote for anyone over 30. Problem solved.
This is a sad day for the French, it’s a sad day for freedom…
Those old fart politicians don’t represent the people anymore, they represent themselves and the big old corpses with the money and the power…
Come on Frenchies! Stand up for your rights!!!
oh and I predict that suddenly the number of p2p traffic will go down, but the number of vpn tunnels to abroad will quadruple over night…
well, living in a crappy country (Egypt) has its own benefits as well.
NO BODY FREAKEN CARES ABOUT COPYRIGHT
:))))))))))))
So choose VPN, encrypted p2p/i2p, proxy or just go for fck it who cares they can’t disconnect em all?!
Sorry to those in france, sadly i’d imagine the rest of the world isn’t far behind.
poor frogs…I mean french
And as soon as that happens in the UK thousands of customers will be ringing up their ISPs to drop their internet packages down to the minimum.
There is always a good side of this. New technologies will emerge and will be made available to the public. I have canceled my SKY+ HD subscription to pay for a VPN service and you know what … was well worth it :)
Can’t wait to read about the first public scandal this stupid law will produce. Hope is going to be some old fat politician.
French democrats, RALLY! DEMONSTRATE! Protect your freedom!
Viva la Revolucion!
Come on french citizens, show some balls for once in your life.
Man I picked a shitty time to move back to France… I’m in Spain at the moment, and leaving for France on Tuesday.
Stupid economic crisis forcing me to leave one of the few countries that isn’t under corporate control (YET!).
Oh well… We’ll find a way.
I can’t wait for new technologies to come out of this.
@Zush
If you are in the states the UMP is the democrats…
Our right is your left…
Socialist if the next stop to the left… With the MoDem (new party) in the center.
We need a PyratBan
Don’t worry about us… We all know the law has been voted because N. Sarkozy want it that way. He wants to
The fact is that we also all know the law is inapplicable in practice and will be obsolete in the next few month. If you can read french, just read the comment on web newspapers like lemonde.fr
Anyway, there are plenty of solutions like private SSL trackers, VPN, anonymous p2p that HADOPI can’t detect. And I’m sure others solutions will appear soon.
Finally, the major problem is that European Parliament has already voted a law which goes into a completely opposite way!!
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/05/european-parliament-smacks-down-france-on-three-strikes-law.ars
And YES, the democracy is in danger since Sarkozy is president. Just read that story about TF1 :
http://torrentfreak.com/tv-exec-fired-for-opposing-anti-piracy-law-090507/
One among many others suspect things from our cher président…
Check out this one…
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/272513
What does it take for HADOPI to actually be signed into action?
Since the article says being passed by the National Assembly only takes it a step closer, it obviously isn’t there it.
Err, obviously isn’t there YET.
It has to go back to the senate for review and a final vote.
If there is a review it has to go back through the assembly, if not there is just the final vote.
The law has to go to Commission before being voted in the Senate, probably on Thursday. Then there will have to a decree. But Ernesto is right, this is now through but for formalities.
A group of MPs from the Socialist Group, a couple of ex-Communists and some Greens made a fight of it in the National Assembly, but for some mad reason the PS group in the senate is supporting the law. So there will be basically no opposition there. Go figure.
With regard to people piling into premises with free wifi to do their downloading, don’t count on it. Hadopi creates high levels of liability for anyone with a net connection, but offers an indemnity providing you use a government certified security utility (spyware) which will be in contact with a remote server containing a database of copyrighted works. Business owners will be the first to install this snitching device, followed by fearful parents worried about what their kids get up to.
In any case the system won’t be up and running for some time – it’s costly to administer (who will pay?) and complicated to enact practically. The process to define the snitching application hasn’t even begun. The numbers sharing are huge, and this Orwellian fantasy is just that – the product of some reactionaries imagination.
See lots more on the Hadopi story here:
http://www.laquadrature.net/en
http://knowfuture.wordpress.com/selected-publications/hadopi/
… and of course a search on torrentfreak…
Hahaha, we win!
Can anyone suggest a good proxy?
For the beginning, three P2P networks will be focused on by HADOPI:
Limewire
EDK/KAD (Emule)
Bittorrent
They will not be able to track people on newsgroups, directdownload sites and anonymous P2P networks (darknet networks).
humming “Forging IP’s is painless it brings on many changes. And you can take or leave it if you please.”
I predict tools to falsely give French government department IP’s to torrent trackers. just requesting single small BT blocks.
@25 May 12, 2009 at 19:49 by Anonymous
“What does it take for HADOPI to actually be signed into action?”
The senate has to validate the law (the majority of the senator are for it), then the president Sarkozy basically just has to say “go”. It is planned for october or something…
However, the left side parties want to engage an appeal to the “constitutionnal council” in order to censor the law. This council has the ability to do it (Chirac & the previous parliement president are in it and they aren’t very much for Sarkozy’s politic ways) but i put no much hope in this appeal.
Sorry for continuos posting, but this thing has got me hopping mad!!!
So here are my predictions:
-Rise in darknet use.
-IP Spoofing tying itself in to the IP addresses of assembly members.
-That little piece spyware they want us to install… Hacked, and giving out false info.
And of course as soon as of the assembly’s child (or grand-child, or great grand-child) gets caught it will be all over the news… He he he
This is not about illegal downloading ! This is about freedom !!
With this law you will be punished without any judgement ! This is an affront to democracy ! Habeas Corpus do you know ? Well it is a really important part of democracy that stipulate that ANYONE can have a judgement by a court and a proper lawyer, and for ANY crime !
In this law you will be judge by somebody working for the government in approximately 15 seconds !
First the “evil” sharers then what ?
I am French and I am really pissed off ! (say it with a Cartmen-like intonation).
Well, the constitutional council will be called off and will most probably cancel the law. Would it only be because of the fact that one can be prosecuted for counterfeiting (up to 300.000€ + 3 years in jail), in addition to his net being cut off; as one cannot be sanctioned twice for the same thing in France.
Guy Bono, the EU MP that initiated the 46/138 amendment prohibiting 3-strike without an official trial has also warned he’ll call for a sanction against France, as EU rules expect a country to calm down if a subject is being discussed in it and in EU at the same time (EU directives rule over national laws).
As for the sites filtering, Italy already tried. The dumbasses that are responsible for taking care of it are generally so stupid they think they can get along with it just by filtering DNS servers. Well, use DNS from another country, and fuck’em.
This doesn’t change a thing to our parliament being an abject joke, but this debilitated law is far from being a reality yet. To be clearer, this law is already 6 feet under. At worse, just expect people migrating from P2P to usenet a bit more than before, but Kopimi will be stronger than all, in the end, like ever.
I F u ck ing hate racist, prejudice retards. French people are not responsible for every choice made by the government.
@6
I agree. They would not have any way of knowing someone was using their bandwidth.
@13
Ouch
Well this is what is happening when the president of the republic(Sarkozy) is married with a whore(Carla Bruni) who think that she is an artist.
@6 excellent idea. that gives at least some hope that those that don’t know, will know..
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
VPN RULEZ. Soon we’ll be swapping 1Terbyte SD cards, besides it’s much easier to swap hard drives, takes a few days only with fast mail.
http://ipodah.net ftw :-)
I can see so many Citroën’s overturned already….
My thoughts on 3 Strikes – http://torrentfreak.com/uk-entertainment-industry-wants-to-disconnect-pirates-090512/comment-page-2/#comment-560137
Its starting – possibly the end of free torrents for all – possibly the end of an internet free from censors!
is there a problem with moderation?
Now the hidden hard-to-get-in trackers will make sense.
Anyway, i think that getting a seedbox to download from private trackers seems a decent solution…
Yes. This is the right step. Never mind focusing on the rapists, murderers, pedophiles and terrorists. Instead spend lots of taxpayers money and legal resources to go after every kid that is downloading a song or movie.
Yes. That’s the way to go. Focus on the attacking children and families that aren’t really intending to do anyone harm.
Good going RIAA/MPAA/IFPI. You’ve succeeded. Just wait until we have all had enough.
DDOS, REVOLT AND REVOLUTION NOW!!!!!!!!!!
DDOS, REVOLT AND REVOLUTION NOW!!!!!!!!!!
Guess I’ll be using my neighbors wireless network from now and on. Or I could always go near a senator’s house and have “fun” with his wireless connection. I also hope the law he/she voted upon will rub in his face once they chancel the senators internet.
I don’t see this as much of a big deal. P2P (including bittorrent) is quickly moving in the direction that will make figuring out who is actually sharing the files very difficult, if not impossible, to find out.
I actually hope laws like this flourish, and come into reality in as many countries as possible. The more places this happens, the more VPN services there will be. The more VPN services, the cheaper the cost of having a VPN will be. This means more and more people will have the resources to move to VPNs.
It also creates a great new marketing strategy for ISPs. ISPs could now start offering NAT based internet access and coin it on the fact that you can’t be traced. What I mean by this is, instead of getting a public internet address, your ISP assigns you a private address (like you have in your home) and routes hundreds of customers at a time through a single public address.
When measures are created like this new french law, there is always counter-measures technology can take. I just covered two of them, and there is many more.
P2P has taken huge blows in the past, and has only continued to grow. It is capable of taking any blow any government, corporation, what-have-you throws at it and bounce right back up and spawn more users.
In summary, the more measures like this that exist infringing on our rights, freedom, and privacy, the more freedom and privacy we will acquire. Kind of ironic huh?
P2P FTW!!!
“They still have to pay the bill oh lovely .. great insentive for ISP cooperation .. money and no work.”
That is exactly right, I am completely appalled at this huge conflict of interest. Hopefully this doesn’t actually happen to anyone if they are disconnected.
ah damnit!
Guess where I live now!
yup, FRANCE
damnitdamanifnhrfhas fukkKkukU!
can someone show me how to avoid detection?
Its really great to live in countries like India, Egypt. We are focused on more fruitful things like Development.
I think I’m gonna move to Morocco or something.
Cheese eating surrender monkeys bowing down before American corporations – why is anyone surprised?
Really pissed off too, even if it was obvious that this law had to pass.
For those who want to avoid some troubles, you can try this
- VPN: http://ipredator.se/ (better than idopah I thonk, at least we know who’s the boss of ipredator) (there is also many other VPN services). SSL rules.
- F2F: http://oneswarm.cs.washington.edu/
- Private trackers (you know them)
- You don’t like your neighbour, he got a wifi connection: http://www.aircrack-ng.org
-Or just stop downloading some crap mainstream bullshit.
Anyway, when the “HADOPI server” will show his IP and when we will really know on what HADOPI will be focused on (and their methods), we’ll know what to do. And for the little program a modified version should be out a few weeks after his implementation.
lol #2 is a fail troll
also sarkozy needs to get a real job, he obviously doesn’t know what he’s doing here
@ 54
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!
The French got striking in their blood. If the wine price is increasing by 0,00000000001 eurocent, the entire nation goes on strike. I would do that if I was them..;-)
Since the TPB- verdict my friends and I don’t buy music any more and our 2 a 3 times a month to the cinema is also on hold as our personal boycot.
Last week “we” organised an “music and movie” exchange party and invited friends and family to share and talk about music etc. My god, I learned dozens of, for me “new” singer/songwriters, bands etc. I had even to buy a new hard disk to store everything. I plan to organise this party more often. Its so nice to talk about en to share music. Downloading? of course but a party works 10 times more efficiently..;-) MPAA and RIAA up yours!
@2: Not first. Pwned.
I really think that three strikes is really unfair. It’s kind of like a video game where you die (lose a strike) by pressing the B (circle on a PlayStation) button (infringe copyright; all you have to do to not lose a life is not press B, so it’s entirely an opt-in decision), and the game console bricks (you get blacklisted from the Internet) once the game is over (three strikes are up).
Preemptively against Reasoned Mind, if he makes this argument at all:
The three-strike rule is not justified against piracy. Using your argument that you never find justification of “theft” in other areas of the law, you never see a rule for three offences either. It’s one offence or none, and sometimes a first offender gets a lenient sentence.
I personally believe that they’re trying to fake sympathy for pirates by giving them three chances to stop. My point of view: why not just hit ‘em hard the first time around, instead of waiting until the third time? Or, better yet, not hit them hard at all?
The French are known for their revolutions. Why not revolve this law that keeps them under a monarchy of the media?
: Man, that was a horrible three-paragraph essay.
You were pushed into the EU, France… The EU have already ruled against this!
Time to $trike !!!!!!!!!!!
Go France!!!!!!
Oh, it will be the reason for the second French revolution :)
I c Sarkozy @ Guillotine xDxDxD
agree fully with the dutch, i like your party thing! great idea man!
What about this?
http://torrentfreak.com/eu-rejects-three-strikes-legislation-for-good-090506/
France ain’t part of EU?
I feel sorry for the French =(
It will be in the UK soon. Anyone know of any good VPN services in the UK?
@ 62
I don’t know what the hell is going on there. Seems like the French are going their own way about it. Hope the European Parliament slap about for it!
I really have to respond to MrQ. I am well over 30 and am very aware of what bit torrents are, how to use bit torrent technology, etc. I belong to a few (private) torrent sites, including some which are very difficult to get an ‘invite’ to. I even use tpb on occasion. (And I think that the tpb trial was a complete farce and a travesty and I hope to god they win on appeal or the decision gets overturned.) I also own copyrighted material myself.
And this trend in France, Sweden and some other countries scares me to death. Is this the begin. of a police state or the death of freedom on the net as we know it? I hope not.
So age does not necessitate a lack of intelligence or awareness on the subject; indeed, many of my younger colleagues (in education) haven’t a clue what a torrent is.
j
Three strikes and they cut off your electricity until the end of the year and you have to pay. That is what this law is like. The internet is like Gas/petrol/electricity/food/booz.
What if they don’t have a 1 year contract and pay month-to-month? Most first world countries have decent consumer protection laws and it should be illegal to force an ALLEGED copyright violator to pay for services they are not receiving, especially if they have not signed a contract with their ISP.
I smell several class action suits waiting to happen.
@52
Maybe you don’t know that Vivendi/Universal is french ?
They influenced a lot this vote…
Just pay a few dollars a month for a VPN that’s outside of France. The piracy wars will be won with new technology, not lawsuits. They will always control the law, we will always adapt with new technology or new way of using technology.
sarkozy is an evil ruthless little mother*(%^$! with a riaa greaseball wife bruni, funnelin the wee mans hog for some more limelight.
he just HAD to take the money/make his wife happy.
its outrageous.
its a voting issue for me now.
INTERNET USERS OF THE WORLD SHOULD UNITE UNDER ONE FORUM TO FIGHT AGAINST ALL THE INFRINGEMENT OF THEIR FREEDOM. WHO WILL DO THIS?
The thought occurs to me this as as much a class and culture war.
These old politicians are catered to by lobbyists. Whey’ll have free tickets to every show including back stage meet and greets for wine and cheese.
Even if you did believe in download, wouldn’t you as a fallable human opt to fuck over the poor slave class that’s likely too unfortunate to benefit from available culture anyway? Why torment them with things they’ll never need to flip burgers or greet walmart shoppers.
Don’t be sad for the french anyway, because it’s this exact thing that we’ll all suffer and it will be sooner than later.
I have no ideas at this time, but I think we can’t let them go at this alone.
hey slick move this bruni thing. I wonder how many other talentless washout but still hot hookers the recording industry can marry off to world leaders.
this is both and as much a class as it is a culture war.
The rich politicos via lobbyist “friends” will have front row and back stage passes for some wine cheese and palm greasing for every possible event for them their families and friends for life.
Compare that to the poor and commoner class that has to download.
Clearly giving up “that” isn’t worth the wasted culture on someone that can only hope to make freedom fries or greet walmart shoppers. Any level of art or culture must be completely lost on the poor, particularly if it should inspire free or critical thought, that the ruling class truly can’t afford.
Can we let them put the cat back in the box? Don’t feel sorry for the french though, I have no doubt the rest of the world will following suit. Somehow we have to be and remain united against a NWO, even as they work to undermine our main ttrail of info.
So what will happen to people in France who download this movie via bittorrent http://www.blank-movie.com/
This movie is distributed by Rick L. Winters. Who wanted this move available to people this way.
I’m curious maybe people in France should download this movie. Just to prove how retarded this new bill is.
After being disconnected you still MUST pay for the internet. Ridiculous isn’t?
This made me want to copy all Carla’s Bruni “work” in DVD’s, go to France and start giving them away on the street like flyers. Better yet, copy a bunch of random copyrighted material to a DVD, stick a kopimi print to it and leave them through the city, lying on benches, parks, anywhere. Hell, if enough people did this the government might even create a new ministry!
Hey big media, try and mess with our freedom. It will bounce right back at your face.
Where are the fucking left wing party’s? still debating che and other 68’s bullshit at the bistro over a few bottles of wine. they understand nothing about the internet. if the internet is censored, there goes the last straw of freedom.
it’s not about downloading, its about the government going the your drawer’s and sniffing your panties.
Cannes is the place to be. Start protesting this
law at a place were the world is watching.
Liberté, égalité, fraternité – French parlamet forgot it :-/
like so many others here, i think this decision is disastrous. although i agree that there will be advances in technology to overcome the snooping and prevent people who are using p2p etc from getting caught, this whole thing is about an individuals privacy, freedom and net neutrality. why should file sharing be pushed further underground? making it more hidden is gonna make it illegal and is the opposite of what is needed. and i still dont understand how France, as a member, can implement something that has been kicked out by the EU, unless they want to go it alone from now on.
sucks to be french hahahhaha
All I can say is, if enough people oppose these laws, they will become the norm worldwide.
Chat here but post elsewhere on the internet too. Raise awareness. Make it clear this is not about free software. It is about freedom.
point people at this amazing post by Harvard professors on the topic of digital copyright.
http://www.cato-unbound.org/2008/06/09/rasmus-fleischer/the-future-of-copyright/
dammit I meant *won’t become the norm…
what does this mean for seedbox hosting companies such as seedhost.eu??
anyone for a “Flash” card party ? :->
please check yourself for virus before swapping party, always practice safe “Flashing”, hehe
You do realize you guys are a bunch of thieves right? It is like complaining that a guy put a camera in his convenience store so you can’t steal his drinks.
Pirates are getting as*raped more and more. This is such an epic time for the music/movie industry. Karma baby, Karma.
No, it’s like wiretapping your home, car and phone and automatically checking out keywords like “sex”, “alcohol” ect., and having police listening what you are saying every time you use those keywords. 24/7.
And if you happen to use the word “drugs”, even as in “drugs are bad”, you will get a notice, fines or get your mouth shut with some kind of mechanism for up to a year at a time.
All because you might do something someday.
Doesn’t sound good at all for me, but I’m sure a sick **** like you would get some bizarre pleasure from that.
it sounds like something that the nazis called “sippenhaft”. one member of a family does something they admit as bad than the whole family get punishment. seems to be the same here. one member of the family is downloading some proberly copyrighted stuff and a complete family is cutoff the internet. Now we see where the EU is going throug!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sippenhaft
to #86
you’re deluded if you think this whole anti p2p, bit-torrent and three strikes rule has ANYTHING to do with piracy, it’s all about CONTROL of the internet and retention of a antiquated business model which is designed to rip-off PAYING customers, so fvck the RIAA, MPAA, and governments that want to surptitiously control and monitor our isp connections.
Hey France I use Google to find and download torrents!! Let`s see you take out Google
sacre-bleu
We are all pooters, mon ami.
its only a matter of time before this virus of dumbassity spread to other countries
so, what the hell are the french waiting to start the fight?
@1 – no, the government already said they don’t want to do it.
*makes mental note to stay the hell out of France*
I am buying guns right now.
Don’t forget that they will also get the wrong people a lot!
“money and no work.”
Sound like comunism does not it?
Sasrkozy is actually from a former communist country.
No wonder!
“Most first world countries have decent consumer protection laws and it should be illegal to force an ALLEGED copyright violator to pay for services they are not receiving, especially if they have not signed a contract with their ISP.”
The guys writing this law have thought of that. The specific article of the Law protecting customer is suspended during the time of the internet suspension.
In addition, you can resign your contract during the net suspension, but then you must pay the resignation fees.
But you can not open any contract with any ISPs during the suspension period, as you will be on a black-list during the period of the suspension (2 months to one year). Any ISP opening a contract for an alleged file-sharer that is suspended, thus on the black list, will have a 5000 euros fine.
“I smell several class action suits waiting to happen.”
Class action suit are unfortunately illegal in France.
You have to do it alone.
The French should cancel their internet supscription en mass in protest.
I will just stop paying. What are they going to do? Cancel my service?
I will start using my neighboor router.
“Class action suit are unfortunately illegal in France.
You have to do it alone.”
What about a class action attack on Vivendi Universal headquarter then?
Instead of taking the Bastille they can take down the Vivendi head quarter.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8046564.stm
Looks like this was just “finally” passed. =/
I feel for you, fellow Frenchmen.
Im from portugal and our government commented this case today on the news and said they dont want this law here, they pretty much said they dont give a crap if people download copyrighted files :3
Actually, the IFPI’s chairman’s name is John Kennedy, right? ooh, let’s hope he will meet the same fate as his former name-mate :o)
This means war. War on all authorities around the world. On all sectors, all industry. Total disobedience in every aspect. Starts now.
I can not believe that they expect people to continue paying there ISP for a whole year with out internet access. This is I guess the agreement with the ISPs because the ISPs do not want to lose money because of this. I think this wont work at all.
Sarkozy is the new European Fascist. Just what one can expect from a lawyer, married to a millionaires mafia tart from the entertainment, with friend of Bouygues (TF1), and who made a fortune opening secret bank accounts in Switzerland for corporate tax dodger and his parents.
The new little Hitler with a twist as he is Jew.
The seemingly impotent little person who’s currently playing at presidency in France is only a lamentable mimic of others elsewhere. We all need to be wary of “Big Brothers” no matter how small they may seem.
However the power comes from the masses and if we could all download more “legal” material via p2p it might become more difficult to attack torrent sites or downloaders.
This problem is not just that of a few isolated countries; It is ultimately about control of the masses and by definition this affects us ALL !
I just say one word, revolution. First take action on the local authorities, they are either with you, or DEAD! Second, drag out the politicans from their fancy office and terminate them.
Merci, à tous…
Thank for all.
It’s a stupide conclusion,
But this Hadopi is stupide:
Démocratie is just a Demoncrate-game.
We are all in the same world, and the game is coming Over… Oh NO!
A couple of things to remember. If the violation is such that it must go to criminal court then juries can strike back by refusing to enforce the law. Juries have always had this right but judges and those in power don’t let the fact escape. Break the law; refuse to pay if service is cut off; give false information to get service or get service based on cards that will not ask for any identification other than a login which gathers no personal information. These exist already where I live. Forcing a company to go to court to collect will force them to pay attorney fees which will far exceed the cost of the debt involved. If they get a judgement refuse to pay it as well and force them to go to court again. Also create havok by using public computers in as many places as possible to download copyrighted materials. Most networks are run by people with extremely poor knowledge of computer security.
Make the law expensive to even attempt to enforce and get as many others as possible to violate the law. There is not enough room in prison for all those breaking the law and a country can not function without workers. If you are in computers and work for a company make the network vulnerable to P2P traffic. Obviously the movie industry and music industries are behind this law so regardless of what happens do not buy any of their products and do not attend any concerts or movies produced by large media conglomerates.
Also create large user groups that share via large hard drives. Terabytes of material can be shared in this fashion.
Fight back and resist in every way possible.
Laws can be amended.
Well said Talen Storla.
Will do.
I’m getting bored with giving the media mogles a good living and just as soon develop other hobbies long ignored. In my family we used to make our own music and forms of entertainment but still, I will miss other forms of information sharing with my friends in Sweden, Russia, The Phils and other places around the world that I’ve been communicating with. It will be a shame if the corporations win and we all lose that.
Unless we find another way fast…
I’m glad that someone had the guts to stand up to millions of internet thieves who think they deserve everything for free. The outrage on this very website confirms that as technology gets better, people’s brains cease functioning properly.
Let me ask: how would you feel if you spent hundreds of hours working on a PC game / programme and then earn SHIT for your efforts, because some morons think they deserve it for free and upload it on various torent sites? Knowing that all your hard work and dedication was in vain? Of course, you would curse all those torrents and stuff, but when you are the ones stealing, everything’s cool and dandy. Right.
I dearly hope other governments will follow in the French footsteps.
You mumble something about democracy and your rights. What about the authors’ rights? They work, they expect to make money. Inconceivable, I know…
And those of you babbling about buying guns / protesting should really grow up. Then I suggest all burglars to take to the streets as well, as the increased numbers of police patrols impede them in doing their jobs and violates their freedom.
And you, 2persons, have every right to share your creations with others, as they are YOURS.
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