G8 Pushes Anti-Piracy Trade Agreement
Written by J.J. King on July 10, 2008During their annual summit meeting in Japan, the G8 members agreed to get the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) ready for implementation by the end of the year. The agreement, pushed by multimillion dollar companies, will open the doors to a digital police state, much to the pleasure of the MPAA and RIAA.
This May we already posted about the leaked ACTA proposal, and it now seems that the final agreement will be ready sooner than we had hoped. Fresh out of the G8 meetings ‘Declaration on the World Economy‘, passages under the heading ‘Protection of Intellectual Property Rights’ suggest member states want the international anti-piracy agreement ready for implementation sooner than some expected, as it reads:
We encourage the acceleration of negotiations to establish a new international legal framework, ACTA, and seek to complete the negotiation by the end of this year.
This date is consistent (surprise, surprise) with that which the US Trade Representative has set as its own timetable for ACTA. Together with some insider information that was obtained by TorrentFreak, this doesn’t sound promising.
How will ACTA affect P2P users?
So what does this mean for P2P users? The honest answer is that it’s hard to be sure. The degree of secrecy surrounding the ACTA negotiations is astonishing, blocking attempts at a variety of levels to develop a counter-strategy. The process is deliberately avoiding both the World Trade Organisation (WTO) and World Intellectual Property Organisation (WIPO), which now have enough member countries suspicious of the “anti-piracy maximalist” agenda to make ACTA’s progress impossible.
At a recent EU meeting following the June ACTA negotiations in Geneva, a packed room of “stakeholders” — that is, industry representatives — were desperately trying to get information on what had made it into the June draft of ACTA while revealing as little as possible, publicly, about what they themselves wanted in it. The Commission — on first-name terms with these industry reps, showing only too well how well regarded they are in this policy-forming process — has basically indicated that no-one will see the text of ACTA until it’s ready to sign.
Also at this EU meeting, it was made absolutely explicit that ACTA is in large part about updating legal frameworks to take account of P2P and developments on the Internet. The previous regime to deal with IP and piracy, TRIPS was 12 years old, officials said, and the Internet had ‘not existed in the same way’ when TRIPS was drafted. In this respect, the hints we have about what might make it into ACTA from a list of suggestions the RIAA obtained by Knowledge Ecology International (which has been double checked for veracity) are very important. More than any other lobby, of course, the RIAA is dealing with issues specifically related to the Net. This gives some pointers of where ACTA could go if the anti-piracy and IP lobbies get their way.
Getting your iPod though customs…
RIAA’s proposals for ACTA go well beyond U.S. law on the enforcement of copyrights online. As earlier reported, they want ‘competent authorities’ to be able to take action at borders over pirated copies without the need for a complaint from a rights holder. An official at the EU meeting ridiculed the ‘iPod search’ stories about ACTA, pointing to the EU’s own border measures — but given U.S. border agents are already retaining and searching large amounts of laptops at borders, this is another burden for travelers who are already harassed by ridiculous “security” measures in the Homeland and beyond. Those dismissing such ideas as ‘merely’ the wish list of the rabid anti-piracy lobbies take note: although there has only been one draft of ACTA made so far (and no one outside the secretive gang involved has been able to see it), reliable sources say there is text relating to the border measures provisions. So at least one of the RIAA’s wishes seems, in some form, to have already made it in.
The RIAA’s wish list for online enforcement of its ‘rights’ is also of great concern, not least because it implies that they would get access to private data from ISPs in order to be able to see what we’ve been sharing. As the year goes on, it’s becoming clear that the P2P / IP debate is merging with the surveillance and privacy debate in ways that I think many people hadn’t forseen. We need to understand fast that enforcement of copyright is one of the main levers being used to drive a wedge into our data privacy at the international level.
RIAA and MPAA want to police the Internet
In general, what the RIAA want is ‘harmonization’ (read: extension of US law over the whole world) of the tricky Grokster ‘inducement’ provisions that make providers of software liable if they can be seen as inducing infringing behavior in users. As I know personally from discussions with the RIAA about projects like VODO, interpretations of what constitutes contributory liability are very broad in the States. What the industry wants to do is chill the rapid innovation that led to products like Napster and BitTorrent by rendering entrepreneurs uncertain about the legal status of their activities. The fact that BitTorrent is the most efficient media reproduction and distribution system in history, used by hundreds of thousands of producers to distribute their own work outside the clutches of the corporate media cabals is, of course, not part of the picture here. This is precisely about media conglomerates’ desire to hang on to the tatters of their empire.
The RIAA’s ACTA would also continue the trend towards ISPs and search engines to weed out infringing users. RIAA expects ISPs to filter infringing materials and police offending P2Pers, cutting off their access if necessary. Again this points to mass surveillance of internet use that, in the light of the wiretapping controversy alread raging in the States, is utterly unacceptable in Europe or anywhere else.
How We Can Slam On The Brakes
So what can be done, and what hope do we have over ACTA? Well, firstly, there are internal contradictions in the process that might make its progress less than smooth. The inclusion of the ‘3 strikes’ rule for kicking P2P users from their ISP contract is a case in point — the European Parliament is actually very suspicious of the 3 strikes rule and the UK government is reportedly desperately looking for alternatives to this political hot potato, which only months ago was portrayed as a fait accompli. This raises the possibility of a showdown between ACTA and the European Parliament.
Secondly, the European Commission has no mandate to implement criminal sanctions on copyright matters - this is down to the individual member states who will be very wary about antagonizing their electorates. Since these criminal sanctions are seen by players like the RIAA as a key ‘virtue’ of ACTA - without which it would be a ‘dodo’ - the shakiness of the legal base for inclusion of criminal sanctions is a big issue.
Thirdly and relatedly, the secrecy around ACTA is a potential pitfall. A mandate should have been obtained from the Commission to negotiate the Treaty, but if it exists it has been declared too secret, or at least ‘confidential’ to bring out. Since this document would very likely have to include a rationale for allowing the Commission to negotiate beyond its power on criminal sanctions, it may be rather suspect. European TorrentFreak readers should immediately write to your MEP in your Member State and ask them to request a copy of the mandate, so that we can get a copy of it online and look at how the EU justifies negotiating an ACTA that includes criminal measures. Since the US wants ACTA to be signed before Bush leaves office, a derailing tactic like this has a good chance of working.
ACT against ACTA before it’s too late…
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184 Responses
A gathering of vultures and bastards working in secrecy because they know they wouldnt have a snowflakes chance in hell of going through without opposition if they openly showed what they were doing each step of the way..
ACTA sucks a**, and I don’t say that as a pirate, I say that as a f*cking HUMAN BEING. The proposed law(s) are nothing short of ridiculous!
ACTA is just insane, this morons are trying to stop the world from spinning so to say.
I just hope this actions can came to a good end without the need for a bloody revolution.
The government is supposed to be the servant of the people and vice versa!
These G8 F_____ers spend time on this shit, and not on the environment. At this point I hope India becomes a World Power. Democracy just doesn’t work anymore. I’m voting communism, at least I know what to expect with that party.
I mean China, not India
What can Canadians do to help?
Disgusting.
Utterly disgusting.
@3
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” - Thomas Jefferson
There’s just a lot of people out there that don’t care. I’m sure there’s enough people in the world to get their respective countries to legalize non-commercial filesharing, but it’s just most people stay quiet.
Actually, they stay quiet in the best scenario. In the worst, they stay apathetic. That makes it much harder for anything to change.
I cant believe this bullshit.
GG democracy
Ipod and laptop searches?
Where is MY FREEDOM?
WHat is next? “all those that speak against the G8 are public enemies?”
Oohhh wait a similar statement like that has been said by someone else.
There is no democracy
Only a elected dictatorships
“How We Can Slam On The Brakes
We can’t.”
Fix’d. The only thing that counts in the whole process of interfering is about as much money and control of the US Congress as the RIAA has. Which none of us have.
The Internet is over, now go outside.
I was expecting something like this to happen. It’s one of those moments throughout history that makes me believe (yeah, i’m the optimistic kind of guy) that the world is dictated by money and multinational companies.
:(
Proposal is on Wikileaks:
http://wikileaks.org/leak/acta-proposal-2007.pdf
Never give in! Every time they push, we need to push right back. Spread the word, and most importantly, boycott these cartels. Hit them where it hurts.
If acta passes, the next thing will be the destruction of net neutrality and the end of all possible freedoms in the world.
Fuck the top 10%
They all need to be publicly crucified
Make it really, really bad so that the general public that finances the RIAA, MPAA, etc by their purchases will get so disgusted that they step on the air hose and quit buying what these companies produce, and they won’t have the money to finance stuff like this. Imagine there’s no IP, it’s easy if you try … oops, did that violate someone’s IP rights?
why do we need police on the internet?
G8 is just dum
There is no democracy
Only a elected dictatorships
Elected? Are you so sure? ;)
the internet is still unpolicable by these standards. Just because most of Europe and the US will sign the treaty doesn’t mean that it can be enforced in places that don’t…
The freedom of the internet is dying, time to protest in the streets i believe!
There is no democracy, officials are selected even before they are voted upon, US has go down the drain. I hope some1 starts a revolution to take this country back form these corp pigs.
next they will target where u rent movies from and send law enforcement to make sure you are not making copies :P
Encryption is the way to go.
We need to start fostering encrypted bit-torrent and p2p file sharing technologies.
Let the border nazi’s inspect my RSA 1028bit encrypted “IPS Infrigenment Device.” freaking a-holes.
this is just one more step towards a police state….people stand up and take a stand , they can only police us as much as we allow them to.
This is nothing short of ridiculous.
How would they even be able to tell the difference between legal and illegal downloads on your ipod anyways.
Fucking G8 summit homos.
Seriously, I was Watching George Carlin’s Life is Worth Losing .on youtube. His Every Word Is Fucking True. In That He Said , Multinational Companies Rules , Not Government And We DO What They Want According to their will.
FUCK , We Need 1024-bit or 4096-bit Encryption . Like Truecrypt.
This is the type of change the dummycrats within the Obomanation (aka abomination) were speaking of. Think you’ve lost freedom now, just wait until the stalinist’s and marxist’s are in charge.
and who is going to pay for it all? certainly the RIAA will not and with a world in recession the member states are not going to accept anything that increases structural costs when the only beneficiary are the already wealthy media lobbies
the G8 needs a handful of treaties to agree, a handful to reject, and a handful to pass on. with only costs in the headlines and without a visible benefit this is not happening soon. right now the G8 needs winners, not moaners
http://www.h33t.com where filesharing is a vendetta
fuck the G8 twats
I, as an American, am appalled personally. Its out right an invasion of privacy. No one, without a search warrant, should have the right to ‘inspect’ my laptop or iPod without my permission, especially over the internet. Judging by the timing of this legislation, there are some major pros and cons.
Pros: George W. Bush will be out of the White House in under six months now (please hold cheers until the end).
Cons: Unfortunately, Presidents in this country have had some success with getting legislation to slide through under the radar in their final months as acting President. Its due, I believe, largely to media shifting toward election coverage, rather than watching the White House like they do the other three years of his term. Otherwise, the ACLU should be eating someone alive for this, but I haven’t seen a single thing in the news about invasion of privacy.
Very well written article, lots of information; good job :)
The happiness about that stops suddenly when we realize how terrible this is. Fascism ahoy!
protip: stay away from h33t, their ads try to install malware on your computer when you visit
ok maybe my last comment was a bit strong worded for this site i said f**k the g8 tw*ts :)
FUCK THAT.
I AINT GUNNA GET BASHED BY SOME CYBER POLICE.
one thing is to set a projection dat and the other is to actually do it. and like me have a work pc and a home pc keep the home 1 at home and the work 1 clean!, i get music and movies through p2p yet i can understand the problem but it is to easy to get free music.
there will be some flaws and i cant see this actually taking off.
yet virgin media is sending warnings and threatens to cut off limewire users and stuff so i hope this doesnt work.
Absolute Tossers
We Might Aswell All Just Die
I Think They Will Be Happy Then
I have contackted UK OFFICE OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT Mr David Martin
Labour
Party of the European Socialists (PES)
PO Box 27030
Edinburgh
EH10 7YP
Tel: 0131 654 1606
Fax: 0131 654 1606
http://www.martinmep.com
Email:
david@martinmep.com
Committee(s):
C 03 - Committee on International Trade
C 20 - Committee on Petitions
C 08 - Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Food Safety
CT04 - Temporary Committee on Climate Change
Iv asked for a coppy and im looking for eny help or idears on how to get the ACAT DOC
its time to be heard, we cant just let this bullshit go past, revolution starts now!
The ACTA proposal is complete illegal, because it has not been subjected to public consultation.
If the proposal is put to public consultation obviously will be rejected inmediately, because the normal citizen (the majority) will not renounce to their fair rights of privacy and filesharing for satisfying the unjustified caprice of a few greedy and obsolete multi-billion corporations.
The ACTA is STUPID! This makes no sense. America is supposed to be free not a f*cking bulls**t oppressed nation. Now they’re trying to make this global too?
Leave the P2Pers alone, for that matter leave everyone alone. Stop wiretapping and watching our lives. I too say this as an angry american not a pirate. This is just absurd.
If something like this policing the internet were to go through, I’d be done with the internet. Since 1997 I’ve spent 15,000-20,000 usd on computer equiptment, internet purchases etc. It seems foolish to side with mpaa/riaa over 6 billion people. I know there isnt 6 billion people in the world but if the mpaa can say it, so can I.
I was always kinda glad my country is NOT a member of the f-ing EU… We barely have internet laws… It will take years before this kinda shit reaches us…
Still, that day will come, but I’m sure that some fine human specimen will discover a new way to screw with these ACTA bastards!
okay I got a question, once they search our laptops and ipod and discover mp3s which are legally paid for and downloaded, how do u proove this to a police officer? who are usually imbecilles…
even if they do go a head with trying to stop us we will find a way of getting around it, even if we all join together and cancil are internet contracts so all the main companys such as virgin sky bt ect, lose out on the millions each year there making from us. then they will see that we cant be pushed around. why offer broadband unlimitted if we cant download unlimitted? are these companys taking the piss, have these companys known about this from the start? and lead us to sing 12 month contracts on unlimitted just to take are money? its wrong it should be them who gets fucked and not us..
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All you need to do is simply create a non archived folder and spend an hour or so cutting all your documents and pasting them into a folder that you can extract later, or stick them on a non gui flash drive and extract them onto your mp3 player or Laptop once you’ve gone across the borders.
I hate how they’re branding mp3 players as iPod. There are mp3’s / Data devices that are alot more proficient then those peices of crap.
Anyways, this whole situation reminds me alot of the movie, Johnny Mnemonic.
To answer your question, you need a receipt. And even with a receipt, they will have the jurisdiction to confinscate your item.
This isn’t about mp3’s or pirated software… It’s about finding personal documents they find threatening. This is another way to spy on us, without investing the millions of dollars in technology and wages to tap your phone, or break through your HARDxCORE 96kb firewall.
they’re*
sneak:
I’ve always been curious of that myself. They’re not usually distinguishable by any means and if they were i’m sure somebody would find a way to make illegal ones look like the paid for ones….
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Big Brother is everywhere! its rediculus!
First they finger my ass for drugs at the airport, and now they want to finger my laptop. Enough is Enough I say!!!
motherfuckers.
This is going to happen, maybe not within the next few years, but do not think for a moment that we are safe. We are just moving ever closer to a state in which everything we do will be watched. Some of you might call me a conspiracy crackpot or what have you but look at the facts. There are extensive GPS networks up and running both through stand alone GPS devices and through the telecommunications sector ie: Cell phones. I can track my FRIENDS from my cell phone, what makes you think they cant/wont track you? The Echelon system (not sure if thats the correct name.) is in place and it DOES monitor what you say on the phone, what you say in an email, what you tell someone in an IM conversation. Read the writing on the wall, the population of the planet and the people who run it are becoming increasingly more paranoid by the minute, and want to know everyone is doing at any given time. This may not take place in my lifetime, but it will take place.
Jeez, and I thought that all these nasty terrorists out there envied our ‘Freedom’- What a joke.
Yeah… Damm’em all to hell
So what if those motherfurers’re after us? Safe to say they don’t know what they’re up against, because those ‘police’ people are too dumb enough/inexperienced to find us. And, yes, an IP address is the only way to find its culprits.
Needless to say, there’s NOTHING for us, P2P users, to worry.
policing the internet, that’s great, it is the last FREEDOM that many people have. p2p is good for many more things than it is bad for. the big companies need to go back to school and learn a little something about supply and demand. we are demanding the hell outta good content, but they aren’t supplying it. and the older stuff that is good isn’t available in stores anymore so we are forced to find it elsewhere. if the riaa wants me to pay for music, give me something worth buying. if the mpaa wants me to pay for movies, give me something worth buying. software, well, it is worth buying, but be reasonable about it, anybody else have a problem with how much they charge for things like Vista?
You can all curse and complain but no one is actually gonna try to do anything about it. Not that YOU could if you even tried. It’s gonna happen, and there are more people more willing to still rent and purchase. Sure it’s crap, but that’s the way things are gonna be.
I just hope they dont try to throw the ACTA infront of Bush. If a new president gets in before, he will have to get setted in before tackling anything like this. That will buy us P2Pers some more time in the U.S.
Dont ever let anyone tell you downloading is wrong.
Downloading is now officially morally right.
We must stop this.
its a shame realy that they cant show this much interest in virus production ,porn , and spam !! must be that p2p is easy to find and a sitting target !!!!! kunts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxoKMzLCzh0&feature=related
UK citizens, sign this petition! Spread it everywhere!
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/No-to-ACTA/
lol airport laptop checks..
not only is this idea like so stupid i cant even think of how it would work.. even if it was legal
seriously.. i REALLY cant think of how this would work.
I have to be missing the point here..
I know more ways of hiding files that you couldnt find then you can imagine.. not only that, even if you find them.. there encrypted.
Not only is this stupid and impossible, why would we be carrying laptops with copyrighted materials in them.. we do that over the internet..
There stupidity never ceases to amaze me.. I absolutely think that the people coming up with this are the stupidest people on earth.. I WOULD NOT be surprised to hear they are mentally retarded.
stupid bored masons
“Then I saw a new Internet and a new Web, for the first Internet and the first Web had passed away, and there was no longer any freedom. I saw TPB, the new ICANN, coming down out of the Internet from the community, prepared as a server beautifully configured for her webmaster. And I heard a loud voice from the community saying, “Now the dwelling of knowledge is with us, and it will live with us. We will be our own ISPs, and bandwidth itself will be with us and be our bitch. The community will wipe every fear from our minds. There will be no more lawsuits or jail sentences or disconnections or spying, for the old order of things has passed away.”
You must admit it’s a nice thought…
The World clowns, sorry “leaders” never cease to amaze me.
They couldn´t achieve a good and honest agreement, for the implementation of new countermeasures against the problem of global warming. Yet they still found time for discussing new measures as how to make their masters a little more rich. As if they weren’t enought.
I´m sorry if i don´t fill pity for some hollywood producer who isn’t going to be able to add a new ferrari to his collection or buy his own private jet, because some folks at the internet got a copy of “his” film without paying. Frankly the world has bigger problems, like world anger, to worry about.
In the end everything amounts to fair prices. If i didn´t had to pay 25 euros for some stupid copy of some stupid film that costs a fraction of that to produce. I wouldn´t need to try and get it for free.
If they join forces to hit us than we have to do the same and hit them.
My solution is simple.
Hit them where it hurts, their pocket.
If such measures eventually see the light of day i will not buy any film, game or music disc until they have a fair price tag.
And i want to see them still proceed on that path.
If humans only knew, the power they have, to change the world…
Live free.
Encryption is the way to go.
Whenever you download something from P2P, encrypt it. If you can’t stop the enemy from taking you away, go limp and drag your feet all the way.
These bastards won’t be able to fund this kind of stuff for very long. But I’ve been wrong before. The only thing we can do is resist and make them waste there resources for as long as possible.
BTW, there are many free solutions for encrypting data. However, it’s best to get software that fully encrypts your hard drive to very start at login.
-_- indiana greggs is back with her idea I see…
now I’m getting to think China’s a better place to be (or Taiwan, or Japan…. urk, etc) :x
really I would have been living over there if my parents didn’t move to the US….
I read a quote from an ISP Provider (I can’t remember who) that said personal monitoring of personal downloads would be nearly impossible to track, and that they wouldn’t support such a thing on ethical grounds (a corporation caring about ethics?).
But, if such a thing goes into effect by the proposed end of the year, border guards won’t be looking at external hard drives, just laptops and mp3 players.
This is going to get big. If this passes, I can literally see VIOLENT uprisings happening all over the world.
I, for one, will NOT stand for this. This is as both a Canadian citizen as well as a citizen of humanity.
wait, I just realized something:
“just laptops and mp3 players”
take out the hdd in the laptops…
wait a sec
if they are just searching the laptop, wouldn’t they just find hardware - mouse, screen, keyboard, etc, and not software? if so, they would find that it would hold up the line a LOT, as well as Window’s incredible capacity of taking a loooonnnngggg time to boot up ^_^’..
These people are so far detached from the reality of life and the universe.
They fail to see that their existence is an essentially meaningless, overblown chemical reaction.
This goal of complete control over every other individual chemical reaction on the planet is like their religion, so completely has it consumed their personal consciousnesses.
It is sad to see humans, so utterly devoid of worth in this world.
Never do these people ask themselves,
“How exactly does my agenda benefit our species, how do I fit in to modern human achievement?”
If they did,
they’d either kill themselves,
or become hippies.
As all those remaining, still desperately clinging on to this pathetic agenda, must logically not have asked themselves this question, we may conclude that all those involved ARE, in fact, un-intellectual, moronic, closed minded, ignorant sociopaths, with no other way to show their self worth, than stepping on the small man, on behalf of the big man.
WOO-HOO!
GO YOU!
HUMANITY SHOULD BE SO THANKFUL FOR THE EXISTENCE OF THESE SELFLESS SAINTS!
The “Anti-Counterfeiting” I can agree with. I don’t think it’s right for someone to burn a CD and then turn around and sell 5000 copies of that disc.
The P2P aspect is scary. I think there is a big difference between downloading something for personal use than downloading something to make mass copies to sell.
my eyes are bleeding, sniff sniff.
they already got billions and billions to finance this shit, just turn around and give them to your broker and stop messing around with the internet ppl.
Someone will find a way around whatever the blood-suckers come up with. They always do.
Is it time to ressurect the old-school BBS systems? They had a slow, but functioning node to node networking system. If you have a system off of the Internet, or really good encryption, this may be a good option on keeping stuff below the radar of the Internet cops.
The only major issues is with the speed of a phone modem and the cost for multiple phone lines.
Perhaps a new system needs to be invented by the free software people?
Policing the internet is a far more difficult and expensive task then the fools at G8 believe. We aren’t talking millions, we are talking billions of dollars a week.
The US government would go bankrupt trying to fund something like this, and the US government is already in debt.
Even if they somehow had the money, the system would create huge bottlenecks and slow downs due to tracking all the traffic, ISPs don’t want that, it costs them.
i will kill them all, I’m not joking later ppl will thank me and i’d be a hero
i will kill them all, I’m not joking later ppl will thank me and i’d be a hero
well ..is a good idea
This is complete shit!
The RIAA and other companies should not have possession to search our personal stuff like iPods and Laptops without a proper search warrent from the country we are entering.
I hope the government repeals this before it gets too late.
I second the killing part, you will be an Super Hero
Encryption, Encryption, Encryption!!! And the old-school BBS system is a good idea. We’ll come up with a new system to share files, rest assured.
These blood suckers will not shut us down!
Hei, guys, we can start making a very good site where to publicy all we have incriminating the RIAA’s and Co members, etc, etc. We can “create” our online detectives, and all this stuffs. what do you think?
Lower the prices on movies..and i will buy. As for music im really picky so that will continue to be pirated..:) As we can see the pirates are winning the battle..as it’s obvious with new tactics they are trying to come up with. The scary part is that, because it’s coming from a high power source, we stand looking up at Goliath.
what this comes down to is more of corporate America’s (Global Corporate Entities) desires and institutions to act against law breakers via methods outside of the law itself. SUch unlawful acts ,by definition, makes any government or agency who enforces such actions a rogue power and a parasite on the lives of us all. As modern humans we not only have the right to fight such acts, ney we also have the responsibility and absolute obligation to FIGHT such acts and those who impose them. Further under individual nation’s and international law we ARE NOT COMPELLED OR REQUIRED to adhere to, bend nor kneel to illegal actions or institutions of said rogue element. We in the USA have long thought our country as clean, American, a nation of laws and reason. We need to start getting used to the reality that this may no longer be the case, if we allow our over-burdened, complacent and short-sighted governments to be weilded like swords by corporations against the people. That some of those who seek to govern and control us will do so by any means, legal or otherwise. And furthermore having possessed said knowledge we ARE NOT TERRORISTS WE ARE PATRIOTS. I say again it is our absolute responsibility and obligation, inherited from family lines, to fight such oligarchies, rogue governments and institutions to our very last breath. Or be warned…we will all wake up in Orwell’s “1984″ (which I intend to dL tonight) much sooner than we could imagine. It’s like standing on a rug while others would chisel out the floor beneath it. The collapse, having been approaching and containable for quite some time, finds us suddenly unarmed, deceived, bought and sold. We have ONLY OURSELVES TO BLAME if we let such endeavors stand and be whored off to the naive public as “it’s own protection!” Laws and criminals will always exist. Yin and Yang good and evil, right and wrong are the very gears and forces which keep the wheel of time and fortune rolling. They are that which make boys to men and men to cowards and back again. They are the forces of our great divine test upon which our very souls will be measured and backs broken. Here in the US our founding fathers’ explicitly sought to make sure that enforcing the law may only be done BY LEGAL MEANS. ANYTHING LESS REQUIRES R E Q U I R E S REVOLUTION. Listen, we all get the government we deserve. Let not the sacrifices of so many who paid our debt for freedom in blood be found to have been in vein. Just like the British needed a reminder in the 1700s so too do the unaccountable conglomerations of today. I can hear a great rumbling on the horizon, like a great army approaching, and I fear we face much darker days before THE LAW is that which controls those that govern us rather than that which is used as a dark veil for said .crats (dot-crats)to hide behind whilst they wage their war of tyranny against we the people. Divide and Conquer VS. United We Stand. As for this latest challenge, ACTA, if need be we will bury these corporate entities, who hold our governments hostage,in the dollars of their own court preceedings. Let them sue us all! One at a time…and then let us see how long these CORPORATE PIRATES will stand. As they spend billions in frivolous lawsuits to keep media from those who never would have paid for it in the first place! ACTA, IF MANIPULATED PROPERLY, CAN AND WILL BE THE VERY DEMISE OF THESE CONSPIRATOUS BASTARDS who hold themselves so much more esteemed than the rest of us. BUT IT WILL ONLY WORK IF WE NEVER BACK DOWN. We must stay one step ahead and within these institutions and if through no other means we will deliver a VICTORY through our sheer numbers alone! At least I only pirate the grossly over-paid media..the media is pirating the governments of the world themselves. And gonvernments are essentially supposed to be THE VERY POWER OF THE PEOPLE, the point on our spear. IN SHORT KEEP DOING WHAT YOU”RE DOING. DO IT IN EVER GREATER NUMBERS AND DO IT SMARTER and NEVER GIVE IN. Ask your friends and families what movies or music they want, give them duplicates and keep a master copy! This alone will create a surge that ACTA will not know how to nor be able to contain. That is how the people have always won and prevailed through such times. In for a Penny In For A Pound!!! Now get downloading EVERYBODY!
what can we do?
this is gonna be a very long drawn out event where we constantly need to become smarter then them, what about these back-stabbing consultants?
i dont understand how this would work exactly.
if they found my mp3 player, which has some downloaded mp3’s on it, how would they be able to distinguish these mp3’s from ones that i have ripped from a cd. what is the difference? they were all originally ripped from a cd, even if it was not mine, plus all my files are tagged to my standards.
also how would they have the proprietary connector to connect to my mp3 player to look through such files? and if they did this for every person how fucken long would it take to get out of customs
Are things like this intended to protect the millions of dollars that the movie stars and bands already make and have?
fuck this shit
No big deal, if hey choose to go this route and do it behind closed doors and in secret with out a debate thats fine,
we all know now how hard pressed for fresh ideas these idiots are. The pricing modle is broken and there is value for a DVD or CD makes more money to the label than to the artist which every downloader would be more than happy to pay anyway.
The other is since they seem to have gotten enough funding to go to this level of lobbying by arm twisting the ISP’s and internation govts to pass law that impose of ordinary privacy and decency we as end users can hit back pretty easily in a language they understand.
Start a email chain letter with a 12 month boycott of all ISP’s and record lables that support this move, i believe they will get the message loud and clear in just 2 quarters when they get raked over the coals by investors in the market or loss of revenue and boneheaded policy making.
cheers
I support full payment to artists and creators of content with a resonable and better pricing model without the record lables anyday.
they check your ipods and laptops?? F*** you ***holes i’m gonna start encrypting everything, this is ridiculous, I agree with the comment that says it’s an elected dictatorship….
Do you reckon these were the bunch who go beat up at recess in school by the jocks ?
So then, after reading all of that, my punk rock roots kicked it, and I feel like being a fucking activist again.
One question..
How do we fight within the united states? After all, with the new wiretapping bill it sure isn’t looking to bright is it?
I’ve already encrypted my damn files for the longest time due to paranoia.
This perticular topic surely angers me to be A citizen of the entire world.
To be searched on Ipods? For what? illegal music? How the fuck can they sit there and prove that, because of what is on the computer? how can simple cops go and do that.
It would take a ton of money to go and imploy such technology in the first place, and lets not forget the airplane services area already stretched for funding..
What with the US pirate party do about this? I really want to know..
What can we do? Someone tell us on here. Please share your knowledge.
I want to fucking do something. right now..and get this thing started.
Because this right here is a ripple effect, it isn’t just going to hurt us on the digital lives, its going to hurt us outside a computer life.
Having to sit there in a box. We as americans chose bush to put us in our own box.
We need to stop being so fucking apathetic and open our eyes.
Piracy will be forever, whether physically or digitally.
Fuck you internet cops, corporwhore whores and stupid boy bands/ miss teen pangent beauty suck and fuck pop singers.
Learn to live the lives of real people, who are in debt in their ass, trying to pay gas just to get to work just to have ten or fiften dollars for a meal for the next day and be fucked for the rest of the week..and not have money to be buy for entertaiment like fucktarded cds and crappy as hell dvds.
Sorry, I am ranting.
Seriously..we americans need to do something. Anything.
~Daniel
this is bunk! I have been downloading since i was, its been so long I cant remember. Well I live in the US, and I am not quite sure I fully comprehend what you guys are saying, but what i get is that we, as down loaders are screwed. The irony in this is that the only reason Microsoft became a multi million billion, whatever it is, dollar company, is because of people like us. Downloading is the only way I was able to use software, ie like word and pp and dream weaver/PS, when i was in grade school. THIS IS BUNK . Is there anything we can do to stop this?
This is all Bulls–t.
It isn’t economically precise, and how are they going to check every Ipod and Laptop at the border(s)?
If you do what you do, UMMMM I think you know how to protect yourself!!!
RIAA, ACTA, MPAA
cmon search my laptop and it’ll explode right infront you FACE
Echoing the earlier comment - what can Canadians do to help? As it is, our laws protect us quite well, but if that kind of policing was made global, we’d be in big piles of shit too… Heres to wishing I knew how to hack… I’d do as much as possible to screw these kinda people over. I mean, come on. The internet is ours. It has become so huge, so popular, so powerful, because it is at the mercy of private citizens. We shape it, change its course. If it became policed… the whole purpose, the goal behind it would be gone. Dammit, something needs to be done about this.
> “The ACTA proposal is complete illegal, because it has not been subjected to public consultation.”
Since when has that mattered?
Who rules the country; the citizens or the politicians?
Hello, I am a noob at all of these things, however I like to learn, can somebody direct me to some sites where I can learn how to encrypt my hard drive and my files, also on how to hide them from other people, also I heard something about a firewall, any help would be greatly appreciated.
I am a intelligent person but I dont have a computer.
please send an email to: mechwarriorhard@aol.com
someone finally heard of the ACTA and i have the soultion to this problem lets make filesharing legal and torrents sites legal and if where make smack deal with the music and movie and other companies make something in exchange for its illegal downloads removed from the all the torrent and filsharing sites and expect cartoons and we might be able to give us something in return dont you agree and the unimated website of muisc/movies sites downloads will be at hand my friends
Looks like the bastards want to be the Gastopo and rape your system and personal information. Remember Big Brother is watching and he wants to fuck you.
the time has come to rid the world of these fucking bitches!
we need a new internet!
i seen some ideas passing by here but what about EVERYBODY sending this to their major newspapers, TV-stations, etc.
It’s about damn time some torrentfreak article hits the frontpage, and i guess this is an global frontpage issue. so….
MAIL MAIL MAIL everybody and everybody SPAM all major media to DEATH with this article (incl comments) EVERYDAY till it finally really hits the FRONT page (not page 6 or so) so that finally nobody, EVEN the most apathetic lame arse POOPER, can’t get around this ridiculous growing MADNESS
SPAM LIKE U NEVER SPAMMED BEFORE!!!!!
Fucking them nothing stops the hackers world wide
In my opinion
All this is is just an act to get rid of pirate bay who has pissed off europe’s governments
LOL…where there is a will, there is a way…and vise versa…just like programs that copy dvd’s…they put some code on the dvd’s and the copy progrma no longer works…THEN..a few days later..there is another program that destroys that code..thus..once again…allows one to copy dvd’s again. It’ll be the same..the second THEY figure out how to catch us….some progrma will come out to counter their intrusion…cat and mouse..it’s all a game really…you know it..and ” THEY ” know it.
In order to confirm that the files I possess are pirated they must first obtain a pirated file as well….. o i forgot the government owns all files legally, right?
RE Comment #91 Jul 11, 2008 at 02:29 by badabing
Do you reckon these were the bunch who go beat up at recess in school by the jocks ?
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Nope…these are the jocks. just as stupid.
You fucking assholes are on here offended? you are the reason why the economy is fucked up with all your stealing.
I can’t wait until every ISP start clamping down on all this piracy bullshit and start selling you bastards out to the FBI. Get ready its coming you stupid fucks!
You see what unlimited funding [bribery] and dogged persistence [rabid harassment] can do?
It won’t really affect us in Australia anyway as we don’t have any isp deals worth a damn now, and many former users will have to quit, with severely limited data allowances and price gouging being the order of the day. In any case, there’s nothing suitable for p2p and they know and like it that way.
It’s only newbs now who don’t know any better.
Fuck this bull shit democracy democrats and republicans both neo-liberal capitalists with diffrent opinions on non-issues.
democracy in america now. autonomity on a local level and fully democratic federal government. just like the first american government before it got corrupted by pigs.
Piracy they say?
There is thing called SHARING, and it doesn’t matter how it’s shared, as long is it can be 100% shared in any way possible.
By this act, this represents how those people are.
Most of all, they charge 5-10 Euro for shipping, and replacement, for something that I can do for 0.25 euros???
And if i wan’t for me to download and play in Canada on some PC, I will download it from any server or any PC that has a copy for free, but not until I have the key to crack it and work it to play.
That includes the original key that I paid for and the key that I only know. Not part of separate software or something that can be easibly erasable (again legal)
If I loose serial from paper or from my mind, i would have to contact manufacterer, to give me my serial.
And someone calling from Albania, or something like that, an EA central in closest country, and even if it has English support, you’ll have to wait for some minutes to have your serial given, for a price of Int. call. Includes countries that are in EU, and not. So how much that again costs?
Depends where EA or any company has support! With free Int. shipping and replacement charge, and free Int. call support.
Or that i can change at any reseller, which again will sand to you for replacement free of charge.
And your intellectual property cannot cost in one state 30 Euros nor 50, nor even 30$. It should cost the same.
So there are many things that they are missing for their “intellectual property”.
And the logical answer is that the companies and polititans are stupid.
Everyone move to the city where we can trade and swap. Better work and other opportunities there anyway
such stupid people, they want to control the world the the nazis
they will be picking on people and treating them like the nazis treating jews
fags
It’s about time we cut the theft out, I feel real guilty for stealing everyting
I am so sick of these people trying to pry in our computers! I mean, WHO THE HELL DO THEY THINK THEY ARE? Gees, just when you thought privacy and PERSONAL belongings were safe from the law, BAM! It tries to show its ugly face on ya!
It will not succseed!
It is hard for few people to control 7 Bil people!
If they do not have moral, then we shall not be either.
THIS is what the world is concerned with? Disgusting. Just absolutely disgusting. The energy crisis or food and water shortages aren’t REAL issues or anything.
you can bet your life there will be a claws that makes torrent trackers illegal. Any media list will be illegal. Legal or not it won’t stop them suing, which has become their new business model
@109 stupid brainwashed troll
Build a second internet with funds from Google. Declare it it’s own country. Problem solved.
To 112:
It’s what the G8 wants to talk about.
As a Canadian I see the nazi-like bullshit every day that the spineless Canadian Government bends to. The U.S. gets our hydro, water and lumber for free and tariffs the shit out of us. Owns more Canadian business that Canadians. Need an example of control, how much did your prescription cost? How about your fuel? Try and build a house. Face it, until the American people run America, we’re all screwed.
Boycott.
Download music illegally through torrents or other P2Ps.
Shutdown your iTunes account.
Don’t go to movies in the theater.
Don’t buy DVDs.
If enough people do this, I think the MPAA and RIAA will have to let go of their shitty copyright movement.
It’s about time I start looking into buying a gun….
seriously….
Greedy Bullies…..
this is bull… how can the G8 loose so much time in such a facist law, when they should use it to do something about world hunger and global warming… i really hate those music label bastards who exploit the artist and the listener… if i can´t download music i wont go to concerts, because i don´t know the bands songs… that´s where the band gets the real money, and i have heard so much bands that without p2p i would have never heard… this suxx
This is sily really…I mean we are talking about millions of interet users….add to that the ever increasing number in India and China…..how are they going to monitor all of them?are we that stupid……there is something known as encryption….once a better encryption is in place they can get nothing
711chan was DDoSing the RIAA and MPAA’s servers earlier
Yes lets all just do what corporate america wants since fullfilling their needs is the only purpose of a democracys is… Good thing america has the right to enforce its veiws and intrests on soverein nations with or without force…
G8/ACTA you people are losers all you can do is ruin fun i mean im not a pirate but i know some people who are and by the way your people are saying it and makeing up these unbelivable rules makes no sense to me i though piracy was selling illegal copies of the software and 90% of people don’t do that…so i don’t know what to do here all i have to say is that there should be a vote on this yes or no?
my vote NO!!!!!
Stupid. Uttlerly stupid. What a waste of time, money, and resources.
Big Brother is Coming
This is absolutely ludicrous! And just a week earlier Viacom won a suit against Google & YouTube requiring them to disclose information about the uploading of their copyrighted material. Oh, but officials are assuring us they can’t track specific IP addresses and other such data. Anyone here foolish enough to believe that?
I wonder if they actually think if they continue to shove such platitudes down our throat, we’ll believe them.
Every time we give any government another power, we loose a little bit more freedom, my friends.
So, in addition to me having to show up 3 hrs before my flight so they can make sure my toiletries are in baggies…I’ll have to show up 6 hrs early so they can go through everyone’s Ipods and laptops? There is no way this is going through because they can’t enforce it.
Worse comes to worse, shove your mp3s onto a micro SD on your cellphone and load them to your Ipod later :P
No freedom of choice. what a bunch of wankers, doubt they understand how to wank, pratts.
Just what the USA needs a war on the internet…
It will go nice with the:
war on drug
war in Iraq
war on terror
war on fat people
war on poverty
war on free speech
war on Mexicans
war on steroids
war on evolution
etc etc
Cause yes they are all going so damn well… Sadly if they put all that money into investing in energy infrastructure the USA could be 100% energy independent. But hey there is no money in that right…
How about a war on global warming? After all if all of us are underwater how will they make profits?
Excellent.
I’m glad all this funding is going towards spying on all of us.
Maybe that 6 year old kid who needs a new heart will be glad too. Oh wait. I don’t think he will be too glad since the government will be spending all of its money on looking through his laptop instead of helping fund his healthcare.
These people make me sick. I’m actually to the point where I would happily give up the internet just so these people can focus on something else in this world that may actually benefit humanity.
fuck this like the 13 post said we need to fight back and hit them where it hurts.
DDOS is on for riaa.com.
Well there go ipod sales, hellooooo zune.
Search our I-Pods, How the fuck is that supposed to work, they confiscate it until you can bring a copy of every CD the songs would be found on, or a receipt from I-Tunes?, what a fucking joke, i love my country but it is things like this that make me fucking angry
so if your gonna share
friggin rename the shared files
to things like “blow me.exe” and if they ask tell em its a porno program your working on
and be sure to catch their face
People are talking -
- and people are leaving.
America could turn into martial law tomorrow and many of us wouldn’t be surprised one bit. Most of us would continue licking our XBOXes and WIIs, posting on our blogs, and paying taxes to the dictatorship, whining about where the money goes while continuing to fund the source of their frustration.
Unmanned drones flying over forests looking for marijuana (didn’t George Washington say something about spreading the hemp seed? Yes, hemp and marijuana differences, I know),
helicopters with FLIR gazing at infrared screens,
all in an effort to prevent citizens from growing their own medicine.
The street price of marijuana stays up high, rather than plummeting through legalization to the price of green tea, drug lords giggling along with corrupt law enforcement, people paying and begging their doctors for less effective, addictive pills to pop,
No coffins being shown on American TV news, it’s all about distraction,
Two parties anally stuffed by Corporations and Big Pharma,
Non violent drug offenders and file sharers thrown into prison to be anally raped by gang members and introduced into the possibility of dying from AIDS,
Katrina opened the eyes of many around the world,
The television is the worst drug of them all, and it’s legal,
People programmed to obey,
Hallucinogenic plants demonized (war on perception, control the media control the mind), medical studies of these plants eliminated for years,
(Read Food of the Gods by Terence Mckenna)
Marijuana still Schedule I with no medicinal benefit which is a lie, while Foxglove and Datura are legal and both could easily kill you if misused,
People are moving OUT of America, they are tired of the brainwashing, “If you don’t like it here leave” “No, I’ll stay and make a difference” doesn’t matter any more, the system in America refuses change.
When you love your country but everyone around you is asleep and no one wants to participate in their local government because they are all too busy working to pay taxes and ever rising costs on everything in a fake economy, when and where does change happen?
The NL is looking more and more attractive every day.
Don’t you get it? It’s a fake economy (watch everything by Bill Hicks who tried, like many, to speak to us using humor so we understand the importance of his message rather than fall asleep to Chomsky because most of us are too dumb and prefer watching The Simpsons and combatting anything serious with quotes from shows like The Simpsons rather than dealing with the garbage laws and corrupt officials.)
Learn a second language and investigate your options, or get involved in your local government and work for change. If you value your privacy use Tor (torproject.org), GPG (gnupg.org) with the enigmail plugin add-on for Thunderbird, Truecrypt (truecrypt.org) and an open source operating system like Ubuntu Linux (https://shipit.ubuntu.com).
Encrypt everything and if it’s not encrypted, don’t bother! Learn and use SSH!
The rich get richer, the poor get poorer, what a miserable world we are living in and it’s getting worse and evil. Step up people, don’t give them the chance to bury you alive. That French midget is giving those American mofos all they need to fuck Europe to its knees and I bet he thinks he’s doing alright. FUCK YOU!
The freedom of privacy is at stake with these companies and organisations pushing for such rediculous laws. If such laws are pushed then they in turn would be pushing out other laws of privacy freedom. In this case, it looks like it will not be long before government agencies from across the world will have remote access to the privacy of your own home. As rediculous yet logical as this sounds, such laws soon may lead to things like it being a compulsory thing to have video surveylence through out EVERY ROOM OF YOUR OWN HOME. Privacy may soon become a thing of the past and PRIVACY alone may become AGAINST THE LAW!
It is so simple, if they place such restrictive laws upon us, we just ignore the entire industrie.
We just don`t buy their stuff anymore, we just don`t watch TV anymore or listen to the radio.
Instead we just listen to local bands, or go top local acting groups.
To say it simple, if you screw with us, we will screw with you, and we have the money.
What is there to say we are slowly losing our freedom. Instead of going after p2p etc. They should be sorting out what is really important to the world, Famine,War,Environment.
It amazes and frightens me to think how much power these countries have.
Peace
I’ve got your public enemy right fucking here, in .308 caliber. Wanna stop me from downloading? Better call the SWAT team because I’m armed, assholes.
I haven’t bought a CD or DVD for ages, I’ve recently started to boycott the cinema too, which other people think is weird. I seed on p2p as much as I can.
I don’t know what else I can do. I feel very much in the minority, while the general ignorance and encouraged brainwashing keeps giving funding to the muppets and dictates all the policies we have to live by, through no fault of their own.
Also, there’s far more important problems in the world which continue year on year, millions of people suffering unimaginely. Nothing is ever done. It shows all that matter is business, profits and money. Consumerism is king.
People are talking -
- and people are leaving.
America could turn into martial law tomorrow and many of us wouldn’t be surprised one bit. Most of us would continue licking our XBOXes and WIIs, posting on our blogs, and paying taxes to the dictatorship, whining about where the money goes while continuing to fund the source of their frustration.
Unmanned drones flying over forests looking for marijuana (didn’t George Washington say something about spreading the hemp seed? Yes, hemp and marijuana differences, I know),
helicopters with FLIR gazing at infrared screens,
all in an effort to prevent citizens from growing their own medicine.
The street price of marijuana stays up high, rather than plummeting through legalization to the price of green tea, drug lords giggling along with corrupt law enforcement, people paying and begging their doctors for less effective, addictive pills to pop,
No coffins being shown on American TV news, it’s all about distraction,
Two parties anally stuffed by Corporations and Big Pharma,
Non violent drug offenders and file sharers thrown into prison to be anally raped by gang members and introduced into the possibility of dying from AIDS,
Katrina opened the eyes of many around the world,
The television is the worst drug of them all, and it’s legal,
People programmed to obey,
Hallucinogenic plants demonized (war on perception, control the media control the mind), medical studies of these plants eliminated for years,
(Read Food of the Gods by Terence Mckenna)
Marijuana still Schedule I with no medicinal benefit which is a lie, while Foxglove and Datura are legal and both could easily kill you if misused,
People are moving OUT of America, they are tired of the brainwashing, “If you don’t like it here leave” “No, I’ll stay and make a difference” doesn’t matter any more, the system in America refuses change.
When you love your country but everyone around you is asleep and no one wants to participate in their local government because they are all too busy working to pay taxes and ever rising costs on everything in a fake economy, when and where does change happen?
The NL is looking more and more attractive every day.
Learn a second language and investigate your options, or get involved in your local government and work for change. If you value your privacy use Tor , GPG with the enigmail plugin add-on for Thunderbird, Truecrypt and an open source operating system like Ubuntu Linux .
For the Dutch among us I suggest we request the document via these MEPs:
Corien WORTMANN-KOOL
Commissie internationale handel
corien.wortmann@europarl.europa.eu
Jan Marinus WIERSMA
Plaatsvervanger Commissie internationale handel
janmarinus.wiersma@europarl.europa.eu
Toine MANDERS
Commissie interne markt en consumentenbescherming
toine.manders@europarl.europa.eu
Kartika Tamara LIOTARD
Commissie burgerlijke vrijheden, justitie en binnenlandse zaken
Kartikatamara.liotard@europarl.europa.eu
Jeanine HENNIS-PLASSCHAERT
Geen email adres
Commissie burgerlijke vrijheden, justitie en binnenlandse zaken
Bert DOORN
bert.doorn@europarl.europa.eu
Plaastvervanger commissie interne markt en consumentenbescherming
Jan CREMERS
jan.cremers@europarl.europa.eu
Commissie interne markt en consumentenbescherming
the heck with G8 keep the warez FREE!
http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com
G8 spending time on this? It’s clear they’ve been bought by those Record Company Pricks! Which goes to show what a complete waste of time these summits are. We need to find a way to stop people buying CD’s and DVD’s, or going to the cinema. Let’s cut off the money from these assholes and bring them to their knees.
We really are becoming over policed in every country. Cut off the United States, they want our fingerprints, our DNA and now our laptops and ipods!! Stop visiting Homeland Security plc and starve them!
easy enough. Before entering country, upload mp3 files onto server. Delete mp3 player. enter country, download mp3’s from server. Pretty easy to bypass.
ACTA:
Not the solution to piracy.
The solution to privacy.
@ 155
Fucking coward moron, why don’t you get your ass up and do something more effective in order to reverse those bloody laws? Protest and resist!!!!!
what really i have to write to my MEPs to get that ACTA?
It just occured to me. 3G mobile broadband can be accessed with a pay as you go sim card bought with cash. completely un-traceable internet access, anywhere! By the time this shit becomes an issue for average filesharers having a 3G modem will be as common as having a mobile phone.
F**K THE MPAA! F**K THE RIAA!
P2P WILL NEVER DIE!
LONG LIVE THE HYDRA!
I took the freedom to translate it to spanish and publish it in a couple of forums. If anyone wants the translated version email me to “lucas@alvarezosa.com” requesting a copy.
If this is such a problem they should be poor, but not, they are rich!
US is failing as a country each day, and they are trying to pull themselves from shit in which they made.
But it’s getting worse and worse for them everyday.
US is a very cheap country, because they are enslaving other countries to work for them.
I curse on you US, and your so called “God” that you are leaning on, will agree with me.
Dont you see that your “God” is devastating you slowly, to see if anything will come up from your ass to your head.
There are bigger problems in this world, US making wars with every country that have resources.
IRAQ - oil
Serbia - Gems, Gold, Uranium, land where you can grow natural vegetables without any problem.
Bosnia - also
China/Taiwan/Malaysia/Mexico - free labour.
And this comes to the point where 90% of “true Americans”(don’t forget that you are from Europe originally), are lazy, non-moral, fat. The rest are people who came from other countries, because US is land of oportunity.
I see America everyday on TV and I’m disgusted on their behaviour.
Watch Zeitgeist - if your mind doesn’t understand what US is doing.
And yet noone does nothing.
But when ordinary people, who are clerck to some police officer, understand what is going on, everything will fail.
What is free in this world they cannot control it, so they are banning at making it illegal.
@161: don’t blame God for this. I’m a Catholic Christian, and I don’t approve of this either.
Americans say they are “under God” as a country…but, they are…falling and not under God anymore, aka: God is not to blame for this.
I think they are making themselves “God” in this world. at least attempting to, therefore I don’t approve of any of this kind of behavior in any case -_-.
Fucking crazy.
Remember remember the 5th of November… Mass RIAA, MPAA, and government protests around the world, we should do it!
Funny that those things can be decided that quick, but when it’s about problems like environmental pollution they keep talking around the dirt for years…
@ 157
I guessed you missed my point. I was trying to demonstrate the futility of accessing mp3 players and hard drives at customs checkpoints as a means of curtailing the proliferation of copywrong data. As for my being a coward, pretty harsh coming from one who does not know me. And a moron? unlikely at a 150+ IQ. I pick and choose my fights (something a non-moron is pretty adept at). As for resisting laws which violate privacy, I am better suited to provide for alternatives for other users to circumvent said laws until cooler heads prevail. While I am not sure what you would have me do in terms of resistance, but openly violating a law which will only land me in prison and/or deeply indebted does not seem like an appropriate solution to me. Perhaps you are all too willing to see others to sacrifice themselves to your cause. Kinda reminds me how Arafat was all too willing to have young Palestinian children strap on suicide bombs and sacrifice themselves for his cause. But he never seemed to get around to strapping one on for himself.
TrueCrypt for the win :D
You know who should be praying to God that ACTA doesn’t pass?
The MAFIAA.
Because if ACTA passes, it will usher in a new generation of filesharing protocals that are so indecypherable they elude traffic-monitoring, and the only way to “combat” filesharing left to the MAFIAA at that point would be a complete shutdown of the entire Internet, which for a number of reasons, is not an option and never will be.
They MAFIAA can sleep easy, though, because ACTA was stillborn from Day 1. Or should I say, sleep a little easier, because that generation of filesharing still lies ahead. It just won’t arrive quite as soon.
RushIsRight: “This is the type of change the dummycrats within the Obomanation (aka abomination) were speaking of. Think you’ve lost freedom now, just wait until the stalinist’s and marxist’s are in charge.”
That’s funny, considering that on the North American front, the war against personal freedom is a product of the Republican zeitgeist. Did you forget who the PATRIOT Act is the brainchild of, sweetums? Hint: It wasn’t Al Gore.
Your game is to try and convince filesharers to vote for the wrong party by pretending that a McCain Whitehouse would be a shining beacon of freedom. When in reality, filesharers would practically be rounded up and put into camps(most likely without piddly little things like “warrents” and “evidence”).
Obama: Let’s postpone 1984.
McCain: Welcome to 1984.
What a shame Obama has to run on the Democratic ticket, though, because they’re every bit as much worthless slugs as the Republicans are. However, they aren’t even half as comitted to destroying lives and freedoms in the name of greed and imperium, so that’s a few points for them.
So will the NWO’s motto be:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
PIRACY IS CRIME?
Why not start a US Pirate party? You’d have to keep members names secret so they didn’t get mysterious visits in the middle of the night, OTOH if you suspect an intruder at your door, and fear for your life just blow them away with a shotgun through the unopened door.
Many fake torrents could help make the FBI’s existence a nightmare, or a terrorist attack will end all this nonsense (give FBI/CIA some real work)
just checking, but for the US to accept trade agreements, don’t they have to be passed by the Senate?
Just checking…I know they just passed the telecomm immunity bill…but I’m hoping they wouldn’t pass this…
I am soliciting readers of TorrentFreak.com for support in a pledge to help me in an effort to reform copyright law and hand over power to the common person. I am trying to create an open discussion on what should be done.
Here is the pledge:
http://www.28chan.org/pledge.php
@168
yeah obama is _so_ much better… not
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080709-fisa-compromise-passes-with-obama-clinton-on-opposite-sides.html
Anonymous: “@168
yeah obama is _so_ much better… not
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080709-fisa-compromise-passes-with-obama-clinton-on-opposite-sides.html“
McCain’s Whitehouse tenure would be nothing more than a direct extension of the Bush Administration, an administration which has destroyed more freedom and liberty on a domestic as well as global scale than any other in the history of the United States.
And you’re trying to tell me Obama is just as bad? lulz, dick-for-brains. Get real.
Putting McCain in office is like trying to cure a terminal cancer patient by giving them more cancer. Putting Obama in office, on the other hand, is like trying to cure a terminal cancer patient by giving them a placebo. Yes, both solutions are pure bullshit, but one is alot worse than the other.
French revolution must come back, this time it will be world revolution. We live on a fucked up planet called earth where greed & money go mad! Decapitate all the corrupt morons got power to rule the world.
Luckily, the world is isn’t controlled by these vultures. We the people are the world. Long live freedom!
We are NO better than the businesses and governments we create and allow to continue operating. These companies and governments are built from the people that make them up. after reading these comments, its very clear to me why over-reactionary politics is the only way to balance this polarizing issue.
lets not forget that file sharing came about in the hopes of fostering creativity and growing art without the help and influence of big business. Its just a shame that so much hate and divisiveness has been born out its development.
If people treated each other fairly and respected the true and original intention of file sharing, the government wouldn’t see an opportunity for involvement. If the government didn’t see an opportunity to become involved, big business couldn’t use lobbyist to tip the scales unfairly in their own favor.
Our freedom and innovation carry with them their fair share responsibility and individual accountability. Basically, we blew it.
and the pendulum swings….
Well there’s another step in destroying our freedom.
Well, if I were you, I wouldn´t worry too much about all this.
The all ideia is completely impractical.
The amount of money, personnel and time, involved make it impossible to apply even for a small country.
The ISPS can´t and won´t obey this law because they know that if they do, their business will be out of business.
Internet users would start terminating their contracts.
If the game, movie and music industry has become so powerful up to the point that they can buy and control severall goverments.
Than it not only is your right to download and use internet content but it is your duty as an inteligent citizen of planet EARTH.
Live free.
Fuck this, this is getting beyond a joke now. The US and especially the UK are becoming police states, I hope and pray everyday that we will see revolutions across the world within the next decade, overthrowing these fascists and invoking true democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of expression and freedom of information. Personally I would rather live free or die, I refuse to participate in national ID cards, nationwide DNA databases or any of the other shit they try, why does the UK bang the USA so fucking much, listen to everything they say, we need a decent fucking prime minister is probably why.
I encourage all free peoples to use P2P software. The use of P2P software IS freedom, it is liberty, it is anti-fascism and it is morally right.
Live free or die - death is not the worst of evils.
How will this affect México?
That’s a conspiracy by bilderberg and other hidden groups for world domination >:-(
What are we going to do?
youtube.com/user/redblueice
i'm not even british and all i can say to that is: Bloody Brilliant!
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