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German Pirate Party Riding the Wave of Success

This week the German Pirate Party reached an impressive milestone as it hit double digits in the polls for the national elections. With one in ten Germans embracing the ideas of the young party, the Pirates are on course to gain serious influence in one of the world’s major political arenas.

piratenparteiWith the historic win in the Berlin state parliament elections just four weeks behind us, the German Pirate Party continues to gain momentum.

Recent polls for the federal elections show that the Pirate Party is now polling double digits across the country. With 10 percent of the total vote, the Pirates would become the third largest party in the country if federal elections were being held this week.

This means that the good run in Berlin, where nearly 9 percent of the people voted for The Pirate Party, hasn’t gone unnoticed by the rest of the country. On the contrary, support for the Pirates only increased.

Perhaps even more impressively, it also shows that the party nearly quintupled their voter base since the last federal elections two years ago. With 845,904 votes at the 2009 federal elections, the Pirate Party got stuck at 2 percent of the vote, where 5 percent was needed to enter the Bundestag.

“This is a landmark event,” godfather and founder of Pirate Party movement Rick Falkvinge told TorrentFreak commenting on the news. “Getting to mainstream awareness takes metric tons of work. Getting to 10% in a poll is an achievement that only some five parties achieve per country in an entire century.”


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In common with all other Pirate Parties across the world, the German Pirate Party’s policy focuses around three pillars; shared culture, free knowledge, and fundamental privacy. Based on the recent election and poll results, these key points appeal to a wide audience.

Although the results of the polls are promising, there is still a long way to go before new federal elections are held in Germany. The difficult task for the Pirates is to keep the momentum going. However, Rick Falkvinge thinks that this week’s poll results are a clear sign that they are on course.

“This isn’t an election result, but it is still something that starts to shift policy making away from neomercantilistic monopolies and toward the free exchange of TICKS (tools, ideas, culture, knowledge, and sentiments) that build the next generation of industries. That’s good for every country and for the youth in particular.”

Despite being just five years young, the German Pirate Party has already booked several successes. The party currently has more than 150 members in elected offices across Germany and with their recent surge in popularity this appears to be just the beginning.

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  • politux

    Great news, keep up the good work German Pirate Party!

  • politux

    Great news, keep up the good work German Pirate Party!

    • Hat_trick12

      Germany will lead the way.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      Is there anyone other than me who thinks Germany apparently learned all the right lessons from WW2 and the DDR while the rest of the western world seems to have forgotten and is hell-bent on going down the same tired old route of attempted information control and circumvented civil rights?

  • Jimbo

    i wish them every success in the elections, whenever they may be. i also hope that, if the predicted success is forthcoming, it will have a massive influence on the elections in other countries. major change is needed worldwide. corporations and individuals need their wings severely clipped. governments need to realise they are in power to serve the people, not those over-controlling corporations and over-rich individuals who want only their agendas met!

  • Anonymous

    Yes Major Change is needed here in the USA.
    Would be a great day to see MAFIAA stopped dead in their tracks forever.
    I will drink a toast to their demise.

    • Guest

      It’s mean kill them all.

      • A24g0th

        Thanks Cliff Burton!

      • A24g0th

        Thanks Cliff Burton!

      • A24g0th

        Thanks Cliff Burton!

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        Shut-up troll and crawl back into your dark, damp cave.
        You freakin’ dumb-ass eedjit :(

        Here’s a lollipop for you to suck whilst you consider being shot for inciting violence….

        • Guest

          He always write that. It’s his motto “kill them all” xD

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      I’ll join you! *cheers*

      The success of the Pirate Parties all over the world is just a symptom of all the corruption, greed we are seeing all over the world. In fact, we should share a toast for MAFIAA as they (unwillingly) have some major role in the popularization of the Pirate Parties.

      Yes MAFIAA, keep pushing for draconian laws, keep destroying innocent ppl, keep being complete and utter asses. You will be the catalyst for the changes and for your own demise. *cheers*

  • http://twitter.com/1proof Andrew

    The Pirate Party may be the political wing of the Occupy Protests: http://youtu.be/NzujA6hP6IE

    • Sdf

      Please don’t be.

      Pirate party should not be yet another left wing initiative.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        So far the pirate parties have a very solid foundation in financial liberalism and transparency which are in effect right-wing ideology.

        That it’s often confused with left-wing dogma is simply because we keep insisting on separation of state and market and a state for the people – instead of the other way around.

        • http://www.facebook.com/hani.imran Hani Imran

          So you’re saying the left can’t be financially liberal or transparent?

  • Guest

    “With 10 percent of the total vote, the Pirates would become the third largest party in the country if federal elections were being held this week.”

    thats some weird math

    1. CDU/CSU 31%
    2. SPD 26%
    3. Grüne 16%
    4. Piraten 10%
    5. SED 8%
    6. FDP 3%

    • Mwhahaha

      6% for fringe parties? Undecideds?

      Also, there’s always a statistical error factor on these polls, usually of a few percent compared to actual votes, so a swing from 8 to 10 per cent might in fact be no real gain at all, just variance at play. Or on the other hand they might even be up higher than 10%.

      Political polls can be off, depending how the polling is done, what the sample size is etc. I assume this one was done by a reputable company. It would be nice if TF bothered to state the sample size and statistical error variance for this data.
      Putting a link to the actual data would be better than a quick picture of a nice table.

      If you wanted to interpret it in a really insane way you could claim that each week this party gets 1% more of the votes and so in a years time will have a crushing majority. Clearly this isn’t going to happen tho. All data can be misleading depending how its represented.

      So good news definitely, but don’t be upset if, come the real elections they only manage to get 6% or so. Lots of people mid term are frustrated by the ruling party and say they’d vote elsewhere, then go back to what they know when they get in the voting booth.

      I’d hope the German PP are making the most of this news tho and using it to put their case to a wider audience as the media talks about this latest apparent shift in votes.

      • Guest

        Yes 6% for all the minor parties

        I never really believe such polls but here you can see the recent ones

        http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/index.htm

        Forsa and Infratest dimap are probably the best, but still dont believe polls

    • guest

      Die Linke = SED —-> lol xD
      but true xD

  • Anonymous

    But since die Grünen are a green party, they do have the same opinions about culture as die Piratenpartei. :)

  • Christophe Thomas

    the Green party is certainly closest to the Pirate party when it comes to the political agenda – but they never focused on it and did not really make it an important piece of their campaign. I can imagine this is happening German votes have been shifting in regards of “topics”. Well it might …

  • Christophe Thomas

    btw – those polls are being established by “Forsa” (http://www.forsa.com/) they generally are acknowledged as being reliable (well as reliable polls can be) and they are being published on a regular basis by the German mainstream media.

  • Pirate

    Fantastic! Long live the German Pirate Party and all the other Pirate Parties across the world!

  • Anonymous

    I am acquainted with a high up member of the pirate party (for one of the regions) here in Germany and I must say there are a few things that worry me about how he responds to questions about any policy that does not fall under the limited umbrella of their policies. I was expecting a

    Question 1: What is your policy for voting on things for which you do not have stated policy and therefore a mandate to vote for or against? For example would you vote with the current ruling party/coalition on these issues?

    Answer: We will decide within the party on each policy decision.

    Question 2: As an example, you don’t have a stated economic policy, what will your decisions be based upon?

    Answer: Oh but we do have an economic policy, stop the rich bastards from stealing from us…

    Me: Are you serious?

    I am not German, but I am in support for many of the policies the pirate party stand for in Germany however my German friends and I all have the same concern, populism is not policy.

    I really wish good things for the party and I acknowledge that there has been a lot of work done by the party to get where they are today, however I think a lot of the popularity (in Germany and Sweden (where I used to live) at least) comes from the fact that Germany is a rich country that can afford to give idle support to populist parties, if the country was starving I can almost guarantee the pirate party wouldn’t get a look in.

    None of my friends are particularly rich but they are all educated and free-thinking, we do not sit down and discuss the pirate party however I ran an informal poll individually with each of my friends and 100% said that they would never vote for the pirate party while it wasn’t being serious about other issues. It’s just too much of a lottery in my opinion.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      Forgive my naivete, but how is the political system of Germany run? I’m not particular since, the US two party system limits our choices for progress.

    • Ven

      The concerns you mention here are in my mind the determining factor in whether or not the Pirate Party succeeds in Germany. Freedom to share information and maintain privacy is a miniscule portion of legislation, even for those voters who care about such things.

      The PP will need to widen its scope not only to continue to receive increasing numbers of votes from the population, but also to keep from alienating themselves within the legislative body.

  • AXXo

    Linke is still cooler : /

    • Guest

      Go build a Mauer.

  • Ingo Lembcke, Hamburg, Germany

    The current main reason for the 10% is the fallout from the Staatstrojaner and in the beginning after the story became public thanks to the Chaos Computer Club Friday, 14th Oct. and details become clearing during the weekend and the following days, the pirate party germany was dropping the ball with political statements which where vague and non-threatening (to the responsible persons).
    Only later (tuesday?) did they change their style, going for the jugular and reporting a crime committed by the bavarian minister of interior (Hermann). By that time the other parties in Germany FDP, Greens and Left have more or less made better comments. But so far none had acted. The FDP is in a bad position as they are in coalition with CDU/CSU but wanted to profit from the fallout. The public took their comments as what they where: hot air. The coalition is about to break (probably due to the European Financial Crisis started from Greece). Unlikely as it seems there currently is a real problem if that happens, the democracy formerly known as Germany will be no more. After the Coalition breaks there should be a new election. But the Coalition made a new law for this election, which most people in know say does not work and is unconstitutional. They had three years for that, failed to do it on time (End of June 2011) and the law, which was just published and voted into working law is just a plain and obvious failure.
    So, if that happens NOW, Germany will be shit-out-of-luck and the pirate party germany will not profit from it. I do not know wether that will happen and if it does what the consequences are for us and our government.
    More on Staatstrojaner in english on slashdot:

  • Guest

    These are very encouraging results however it will take too long and we will have to kill all these corporate parasites.

  • foff

    Large corporations are doomed they just don’t know it yet. The mafiaa will die. People are sick of a few people and corporations hoarding all the world resources as if they own them. The poor shall rise!! Freedom baby freedom!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      It’s going to be a LOOONG death with a lot of collateral damage…

      • En Sabbah Nur

        If it mean the apocalypse – then lets get on with it. I do not hold with the idea’s the evil 4 espouse, and if the world has to burn to get rid of them, then so be it.

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  • Grävlis

    Eventually, these things are inevitable.

    The youth that are being born, growing up, in this age of Information, will all eventually have one vote each. One vote each, for the leaders that they think will lead this world the best. Leaders that are not stuck in old thinking, and leaders that know how the age of Information works.

    Eventually, the youth growing up in this age of Information, will also come to positions where they will be in the governments, in parliaments. The youth will be the ones that legislate new laws (and getting rid of old outdated laws).

    The questions is not if this will happen, the questions is how soon.
    In Germany, this seem to be happening Now.

    • Anonymous

      It is certainly a youthful movement. The youngest of those elected German Pirate Party politicians is only 18 while the oldest is in his 40s.

      The long established political parties pampering to the demands of increased copyright protection and less privacy have clearly been out of touch with the hundreds of millions of people who are well seated in the information age.

      You can say it is an attack on the Internet. There are clearly many unhappy people with what is going on.

  • anon

    i hope the pirate party spreads to the US more, i very much want to vote for them.

    • LindaM

      Pirate Parties cannot work the same way in the US as there is no proportional representation. Pirate ideas, like green ideas, run along generational lines. Without electoral reform, you will have to wait for generations before any of the major parties can be considered “pirate”.

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        That’s ^ only one of the main reasons why the USA is NOT a democracy. There’s many more reasons, but why should we bother listing them when one reason exists already?

        • Guest

          the so called Corporatocracy :)

    • Anonymous

      They are on the ballot in Florida and Massachusetts.

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  • Anonymous

    I am only happy that those long repressed, restricted and abused by copyright protection now has a major political voice to speak out. I have seen many companies abused, damaged and harassed by copyright protection organizations. That includes the lawful import and sale of R1 DVD titles in Europe and the home hobby satellite reception market. Other people can give plenty of other examples of copyright protection abusing lawful markets.

    You can only begin to wonder the extent of those unhappy with current copyright and privacy laws. Hundreds of thousands of people voted for the Pirate Party and in the middle of a recession as well with some serious ongoing economic concerns.

    This is certainly a very impressive result.

  • Mc

    Outstanding. Now of course the real question is, how to foresee and pre-empt the dirty tricks which will be used to knock Piraten back down to 1 or 2% by the time of the election. What could they possibly do to effect that? Some sort of smear campaign?

  • Anonymous

    Well, they really do seem to know what the deal is. Wow.
    being-anon.eu.tc

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    Great news, keep up the good work German Pirate Party!

  • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

    What needs to happen is, the supporters of The Pirate Party need to become more than the workers in MAFIAA. If/when that happens, is when the Pirate Party would really see the tide turning in the right direction.
    I love the Pirate Party; they are so right in what they say. This really does look like good news, but as someone above said, there could be sampling error, measurement error, biases, and other nasty factors playing a role. This is not definite, but we will only be able to tell if any measurement errors were in play when the election comes around for the Germans.
    I wish The Pirate Party the best of luck.

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  • PRIVACY is priceless to me

    And so did the nazi party in its time…
    Anarchy now!

  • Spammm

    I’m not sure I understand why these would even want to give freedom on info and basically allow all to copy anything we like. Surely without piracy rules in place you wouldn’t be as technology advanced as we are…who would invest millions in tech that can be legally copied?
    Let the rich people buy it so the poor people can copy and tech keeps advancing.

    • Rain Day

      “who would invest millions in tech that can be legally copied?”

      Think about what you are asking. The very technology that allows you to be here, the technology of the www was free, still is. Look what was built upon the Free contribution of Sir Tim Berners-Lee and others at CERN.

      Also, without Free Software, companies like Amazon, Google, Facebook, RedHat, Canonical, etc would have had a MUCH harder time getting started, in fact they might not have started at all…while that might have been good in the case of Facebook, it’s still an example of how technology thrives on an environment of Freedom. IBM’s not opposed to Free Software and, in fact, makes millions of dollars on their Linux services.

      That’s the whole bloomin’ point of all of this, new ideas (if there are such things) can’t grow in a locked-down world. Everything flows better when there’s open sharing of tools and information.

      Freedom doesn’t kill innovation, it feeds it.

      • Ven

        Legitimate question for you: hasn’t the arrival of cloud-based services rendered the whole battle for IP freedoms moot?

        Apple is (most likely) entering the TV market, where they will basically be selling IMacs with bigger screens. At that point, they will have successfully closed the entire digital system and can offer ITunes packages to users who will be able to sync content to other devices, but not actually move that content off the closed system.

        Do you see the IP industries spending their billions to adjust to these kinds of changes, or do you really believe they will all go extinct without a fight?

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          Meh. Of course they’ll fight. Like any other guild or cartel through history they’ll do whatever they can possibly get away with up until the point where the major guild goes bellyup and leaves a small remnant fighting it out in a niched market.

          Much like blacksmiths come the industrial revolution.

          Progressive companies however, will take the Apple route. Providing easy plug-and-play solutions or designer goods for the sheeple and incorporating whatever open-source initiative is deemed the “next big thing” under the hood.

          In the end I see a future for companies like Apple. I see none for copyright enforcement umbrella corporations such as Ifpi or the MPAA.

    • Guest

      For example, human species advanced because of technology not because of tyrants like polititians and MAFIAA. :)

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      The open-source sector actually beats the boots out of any proprietary investment in IT today. Look at Ubuntu and how it’s shaped up, say.

      Meanwhile small to medium companies are making a killing providing competent tech support at reasonable rates to those who’ve dared make the switch to open source standards.

      Development in IT doesn’t require big investment. Hardware does but at least for the next century or so there will be major problems in creating your own high-end motherboard or cpu from a blueprint.

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    Our Pirate Party’s aren’t “real” political parties!!!
    We’re only a pressure group who had to form a Party for political office because the mainstream parties yet again didn’t listen to their grassroot voters, as they preferred to formulate policy and pass laws that suit businesses.

    Such a failure by those mainstream Parties isn’t democracy.

    But neither is what the Pirate Party’s stand for democracy either – because we’ve no interest in Health, Housing, Defence and real political issues. We only want freedom to communicate and share via the internet. We’re a single-issue voice with votes, and those dummies in the mainstream Party’s have neglected us.

    THAT is politics in action.

    It’s not a difficult equation to work out – or it wouldn’t be if the Hollywood MAFIAA would recognise they need to change their business model and that their paid-for politicians realise they’re on a loser supporting these stupid copywrong laws.

    • Ven

      That isn’t the whole picture. Yes, mainstream parties have ignored some pleas from some of the population. Yes, this party was formed to answer that. But if the PP doesn’t have a real blanket of policies regarding everything that will come before the legislative, eventually voting PP into more seats will lead to worsening conditions in other areas.

      At that point, the PP will be seen by the population at large as a single-issue movement that has no real place in their government, and the PP will be removed.

  • Guest

    While I support IP reform I am very disturbed by these results. There are too many important problems that single-purpose parties like the greens and pirates shouldn’t (and can’t) handle. These kids will cause more harm than good.

    • Guest

      I have to diasgree; funny you mention the green party. Electing the pirate party into government will mean that liberal, free thinking ideals (not economically neo-liberal) will be represented in government. Confronted with other topics, the party’s politicians will then evolve and grow to be much more then just a one-issue-voice.

      When the green party began, they were looked upon with much of the same distrust. Hippies, that only care about the environment but have no clue about financial policy. Well, over the years they have shown quite the opposite, they have grown and develloped their own view on things, and now look: germany has placed great emphasis on renewable energies and environmental safeguard issues.

      After the breakdown of the FDP (Free Democratic Liberals), the pirates can now show that liberal ideas can go without neo-liberal free market crap. You also have to understand that parties do not rule alone in germany, but the governing parties join into coalitions: A coalition between left wing party Die Linke, the green party, and the pirates could bring some real changes with it. Even without that, another voice of dissent in the political opposition can only do the country alot of good.

      Germany is sick and tired of status-quo-maintenance and the “big coalition” between the 2 once-popular parties. At least I hope so. I for one will finally go back to voting this year.

      • Bernd

        You do realise that we will have a big coalition again, right?

        The CDU/CSU probably wont be able to form a coalition with the FDP because i really doubt that the FDP will recover in two years.

        But at the same moment the SPD and Grüne dont have enough votes for a real government.
        And the Piraten dont really want to enter a coalition.

        So that leaves us with no government, or even worse a government which involves the SED/PDS/Linke.

        Thanks Piraten!

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      Yes, and then again, No.

      It’s true that a political party with only a few ideas is not a good thing. However, the reason that such a party may thrive is because the parties delivering full coverage have now turned into one-size-fits-none solutions.

      When any ordinary party you would ideally vote for contains two or three completely unacceptable goals, alternatively has proven itself unable to come through with or has betrayed one or more the goals many considered important then you achieve a paradigm where the citizenry will actively seek out any party which will at least try hard to implement a goal or two with which you can sympathize. I.e. a party with a narrow focus they are unable to obfuscate away.

      People are just too tired of casting their votes for parties which treat important issues casually or with contempt.

      This is a condemnation of the established parties more than anything else. By voting for a radical party you send a clear message to the older parties to shape up or be prepared to be thrown out. In this manner every vote thrown on the greens or for PP proved to be a pure win for active democracy.

      It’s either that or you end up continually giving your vote to an established power-that-be which has no motivation at all to improve it’s connection to the voterbase and keeps on sliding down the slope sitting on laurels from times past.

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