GetAmnesty.com: MPAA Extortion at its Finest
Written by Ernesto on August 27, 2007The MPAA and their fellow anti-piracy organizations send out thousands of infringement notices. Only a fraction of these are played out in court, and those that do make it into court are settled at an early stage. So why not circumvent the whole legal system, and gently coerce people to pay for “amnesty”?
This is exactly what the suits at the MPAA must have thought, because they asked Nexicon to develop a program to convert infringement notices into cash.
The GetAmnesty program is a combination of both enforcement activities and efforts to turn infringers into paying “customers”. It tracks down copyright infringers by using a wide variety of methods. But, instead of sending out the regular infringement notices, they now include links for people to get amnesty. Basically they are asking to pay them an X amount of money, and they promise drop everything and go away.
Here’s what you read on the website, and allegedly in the infringement notices:
If you receive a notice that means that we have evidence of you infringing a copyright holder that we represent. Please stop and consider what such a paper trail could do to one’s future. We understand that this notice may come as a bit of a surprise to you, but we sincerely believe that signing our agreement is in your best interest.
I’m not sure how we’re supposed to call this.. extortion? Intimidation? They are clearly trying to scare people into giving their money to the copyright holders without clear evidence.
They might have an IP address, but this doesn’t mean anything. The MPAA, or any other anti-piracy organization can’t sue someone simply because he or she pays the bills for the internet connection. Several cases (example 1/2) were dropped already because of this argument. An IP address is not a person.
Andrew Norton, a spokesperson of the US Pirate Party, said in a response to TorrentFreak: “These efforts to continually alienate their consumers will not do major rights holding groups any favors. Programs such as this are thinly veiled extortion efforts, and represent further efforts by media cartels to shore up their crumbling business models by intimidation, and violation of users rights.”
Norton continues: “It is impossible for any program to determine if something is infringing copyright, or if it comes under fair use. With the recent probes into the john-doe lawsuits and their usage, it is clear that this is a pathetic new method to try and shore up the outdated perceptions of the rights holders, rather than trying to adapt and change to suit the times. It is no longer the 1940s, and unlike FM, media conglomerates cannot wish or bury the internet, and modern technology.”
The MPAA and other content owners will use these methods because it’s an easy way for them to make money, and they save quite a bit on legal costs too. In fact, the RIAA already uses a website called P2Plawsuits where people can settle their cases online. I seriously question the legality of these extortion tactics.
GetAmnesty.com was launched a few days ago. If people receive infringement letters with links to this site, please contact us. In the meanwhile you might want to take a look at what SiteAdvisor says about GetAmnesty… Phishing or other scams … and that’s exactly what it is.
Update: The MPAA oficially denies having anything to do with GetAmnesty.
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63 Responses
“Phishing or other scams”
Haha, yeah…
“Please stop and consider what such a paper trail could do to one’s future.”
Wow, Take it to another level guys, eh?
In all fairness, they ARE breaking the law.
can i still be a president one day if i have such a paper trail?
Patrick – who is breaking the law? There are Fair use rights, there are legitimate reasons to have such material – no program will be able to tell context.
This isn’t like criminal law, where it’s a clear cut ‘this is illegal, this is not’ – it’s civil law “this is a breach of this law, because we don’t have this contract in place, or our contract doesn’t cover this specific case’.
Who to support? The soulless, incestuous, media cartel that homogenizes the airwaves? Or the people who steal from the media cartel?
It’s not exactly a black and white battle.
The corporations are trying to protect their property and increase returns for their shareholders. The downloaders are alienated and feel that they shouldn’t be penalized for downloading something that they wouldn’t pay for anyway.
I do not think that all information/data should be free (because there are definite costs of producing it), but at the same time I can’t really support a group that engages in blatant extortion.
I have no one to root for.
I received a notice, that means that you may have evidence of me infringing a copyright holder that you represent. I understand that this reply may come as a bit of a surprise to you, and I sincerely believe that kissing my ass is in your best interest.
The real question is how exactly do users know this is genuine, and not some attempt from scammers to collect money.
It would be quite easy for anybody to start sending out phishing emails requiring you to settle for downloading copyrighted stuff by signing onto some website. Considering that one third of internet traffic is bittorrent that would make most recipients likely to fall for it.
I totally agree with many of the posts here. Scammers and phishers will use this to their advantage. Many of you will be very surprised if you have received a letter like this, so much so that you will not pay attention to the source of the e-mail, resulting in massless wallets.
When I finally get a job (currently 17 right now and going for a PC technician position in some tech store, eg Futureshop, need to get A+ cert. first) I’d like to produce some music and redistribute them online and P2P for free, I mean, it is a more efficient way of getting more listeners and perhaps fans for my work (or yours if one of you plan to do something similar) just as long they credit me, that is it.
Just the though of people downloading it is fine for me because it mean people want to listen to my work.
Anyway, the MPAA just wants to intimidate people for their money, that is the bottom line for many of the news stories posted on this site.
However, with the subject about money, does the money that they forcibly rip from middle-class, hard working, tax paying people, actually go back to the person who created the media i the first place, or just all of it goes to the MPAA?
I just hope that judges get some more balls in their sacks to refuse these utterly worthless cases. Too much time wasted on this crap.
[quote comment="153746"]In all fairness, they ARE breaking the law.[/quote]
What proof do you or anyone else have? The methods they use to gather evidence isn’t legal; it won’t hold up in court. How many cases have occurred where the one being sued ISN’T at fault? Just because the MPAA says it’s true doesn’t mean it is.
[quote comment="153794"]I received a notice, that means that you may have evidence of me infringing a copyright holder that you represent. I understand that this reply may come as a bit of a surprise to you, and I sincerely believe that kissing my ass is in your best interest.[/quote]
Genius. Love it.
i love how their website has 3 pieces of “news” for august.
I think TF has like what in the 30s already for this month alone?
that website looks like it was built with angelfire.
Seems they’re using ‘amnesty’ the same way the Mafia used “Insurance” in the past. But if people keep calling their bluff their frivilous lawsuits will be their downfall. Up yours MPAA
You steal from the Mafia, you know what you get.
Don’t support or buy anything that comes from the MPAA/RIAA. The internet is an artists new medium for distribution.
I haven’t received one of their letters, but I’m a BAAAD man. How much should I send them?
[quote comment="153749"]can i still be a president one day if i have such a paper trail?[/quote]
yes, but only if your a white male… preferably protestant
It never ceases to amaze me how these people will stop at nothing and tiptoe over the line as much as possible to sue the shit out of a few 11 year olds and their moms over a couple songs…
I for one will download songs I purchase on I-tunes from p2p networks In order to receive a copy of a song I do not need to “activate” before playing it on another computer in my house… seeing as I have 6-7 simple machines for LAN games that I would like to have music on (server slows the network during heavy gameplay ;)) What tells them I haven’t purchased the songs on CD before they send me the fucking letter?
There is no legal basis for the MPAA to sue over copyright infringement. The argument is the same as for the RIAA, see: http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/30/riaa01/
I[quote comment="154212"][quote comment="153746"]In all fairness, they ARE breaking the law.[/quote]
What proof do you or anyone else have? The methods they use to gather evidence isn’t legal; it won’t hold up in court. How many cases have occurred where the one being sued ISN’T at fault? Just because the MPAA says it’s true doesn’t mean it is.[/quote]
I don’t support their methods of extorting money, but on the other hand I can not support the legality of piracy.
I don’t know what to do!
RIAA tried to do the same thing here in Portugal in 2006: they arrived and said they would start to send letters to people who downloaded music saying: ‘We know you downloaded ’something.mp3′ if you don’t pay 3500€ we will be forced to take legal action’. In the next day the Portuguese Association for the Consumer Rights wanted to know if anyone received one of these letters and wanted people to tell them so they could take RIAA to court for blackmailing people… We’ve never heard of RIAA in the news since that day… lol
Ernesto &Ye Likeminded Gentlemen,
I strongly urge you to do your homework before you spout off such specious speculation. Getamnesty.com is NOT in any way commissioned or sanctioned by the MPAA, their members or affiliates. First course of business of any credible journalistic effort is investigation. Did anyone call the MPAA at their opulently appointed office in Encino?…its so easy with theses 10 steps:
1) Dial +1 (818) 995-6600
2) Ring Ring…Ring Ring
3) The Receptionist will answer: “Motion Picture Association”
4) You say: “Can I talk to somebody in charge of anti-piracy for the Internet?
5) The Receptionist will reply: “Just a moment while I connect you”
6) Ring Ring…Ring Ring
7) The Evil Intractable Nightmare Inducing Bogeyman will answer: “MPAA Internet anti-piracy…how can we ruin your life?’ (Not really, you’ll actually get a real human being that will likely say: “This is [First Name]“)
8) You say: Is get amnesty.com in any way commissioned or sanctioned by the MPAA?
9) MPAA Dude tells you: “No”, “Never heard of it” or something succinctly disclaiming any association.
10) But not taking “No” for an answer, you retort: “But what about Nexicon’s claims…”
and PLASE report your answer right back here.
Of course you could read the original press release: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070814/latu056.html?.v=101 and see that there no specific endorsement. Press releases are marketing folks, not gospel. When they claim that “Nexicon developed the GetAmnesty(TM) Program at the suggestion of a major copyright owner trade association”…that translates to they ain’t got s#!t.
Then this MUST be a ‘phishing’ scam!
STEEEEERIKE 2!!!!!
Oh what’s that at the end of the press release? Could it be? Oh yes, it is a ‘forward-looking statement’ disclaimer required by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Nexicon is public company, but that is what the stock symbol tells you at the beginning of the press release. Hmm ‘Pink Sheets’…Alas, an investment worthy of the trust of widows and orphans (Call your broker for his/her sage advise). Nevertheless, these guys would be looking at spending a few years in the Crowbar Hilton, by willfully committing such fraud in the course of their fiduciary responsibilities. Hell. just call investor relations, The contact is at the bottom.
My point is don’t believe everything you read unless, and react like a horse-toothed jackass, until you do your homework.
Anyone who posts beyond this without having the BALLS to call the MPAA, is a absolute coward and your arguments, more like epithets, shall have the credibility of Mein Kampf.
Cordially,
DYH
Oh boy, am I looking forward to a s#!tload of spam from idiots trying to copy this scam.
“Getamnesty.com is NOT in any way commissioned or sanctioned by the MPAA, their members or affiliates.”
Somehow I can’t find the part of the artcle that claims otherwise.
Hey Learn_To_Read…
So why don’t you quote the section of the article that shows express support from the MPAA…
Did you even try call the MPAA? or Nexicon?
Or are you afraid to get the factss from the horses mouth??
Or are you going to force me into my 1st Grade taunt (Bok Bok…Bok Bok)
DYH
[quote comment="154493"]Ernesto &Ye Likeminded Gentlemen,
I strongly urge you to do your homework before you spout off such specious speculation. Getamnesty.com is NOT in any way commissioned or sanctioned by the MPAA[/quote]
I’ve heard from an insider (trusted source) that the MPAA is behind this. Besides that, the press release says: “Nexicon developed the GetAmnesty(TM) Program at the suggestion of a major copyright owner trade association.”
I’ve done my homework!
Ernesto,
I think you might have this one wrong amigo. I said wtf and just called the mpaa and the dude was pretty cool. I told him my name was “Ira Goldstein” but I really I wanted to say Haywood Jablomie LOL. He said he heard of getamnesty.com and Nexicon but there was “no association” and that was not there strategy anyway. He said there are a lot of companies that come up with all sorts of ideas they pitch to them and when turned down try to do PR stunts to bring them to do business. I asked if he thought this is what was going on with getamnesty.com, he said he does not speak for them Finally, I asked him about the website p2plawsuits.com and he said that was the riaa which is pretty obvious when you look at the site, and they dont have any plans for anything like it.
You may want to check your sources bro, or just call the mpaa yourself.
vaya con dios,
jorge rivera
somewhere in the southwest
[quote comment="154872"]Ernesto,
…[/quote]
I rather trust my source than the PR department at the MPAA. Funny by the way that he heard about getamnesty because the news about this site was only featured here so far.
Alright Ernesto,
Let me take the high road since Torrentfreak has “moderated” my last two post attempts for its obvious contempt and sarcasm…but not because it was untrue. (Do your readers know you actually conduct acts of censorship of the ilk you so decry from just about every organization that vigorously pursue their copyrights.) Since such tone is frowned upon and for so feared it is not allowed to see the light of day, I shall keep it neutral/postive.
First, let me applaud PeacePoorPirate’s courage for calling the MPAA. Frankly, Ernesto, I am at a loss as to why you will not follow suit. I believe you consider yourself to be credible journalist bringing to light the ‘chilling effects’ of the dubious actions by powerful ‘rights-holder’organizations that use their financial might and political sway to ususrp individual rights. However, I just do not see that as license for you to purvey (IMHO) substandard effort as gospel.
Here is a great article about the similarities between methods in science and journalism: http://www.facsnet.org/tools/sci_tech/methods.php3. It states that both have ‘Rules of Evidence’: “Journalism generally requires at least two, preferably three sources to produce a viable news story…The rules of science are more rigorous and require, if not more sourcing, more testing of a theory to prove its validity.”
Furthermore, I assume you can draw upon your own anecdotal experience when reading a piece of investigative journalism, and recall a story that could translate to you article something like “The MPAA’s John Malcolm was reached for comment and claimed no current association with getamnesty.com or Nexicon” and “Nexicon did not return calls for comment” “However, sources (remember, rule of evidence require at least two)” say there is an association” My point here is that the parties in question are always contacted and given the chance to comment. Anything short of such an effort, will, at best, be regarded as unverified, hence not fully credible.
I only tell you this because I happen to know your facts are just plain wrong.
A ’suggestion’ is neither a contract nor an endorsement. What makes your claim so specious (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/specious) is that the RIAA does conduct a similar operation via https://www.p2plawsuits.com; which is pretty clear that the ‘evidence’ collected comes from the Internet Anti-piracy firm MediaSentry. Even BayTSP has a similar offering to rights holders (http://www.darkmirage.com/2007/08/28/baytsp-to-the-rescue/)
You give Nexicon WAY to much credit. Take a hard look at them and you’ll see why I say that.
Since I have chosen civility over ridicule, I urge you to choose journalism over tabloidism and do the right thing by following the ‘Rules of Evidence’ before you continue to perpetuate your claims.
Cordially,
MNG (Formerly DYH)
Thanks for the kind words Mr. Nice Guy.
Every comment with more than 2 links is kept in moderation to prevent people from spamming, don’t take it personal. I hope you don’t mind that I removed the duplicate comments.
It can take a few hours before I check the moderated comments because TF is not my full-time job. In real life I’m actually scientist, you remind me of those nasty reviewers of high impact journals I have to deal with every now and then. ;)
“A ’suggestion’ is neither a contract nor an endorsement.”
I never said there was a contract, but I agree that the title is a bit misleading in this regard. I’ve updated (after I called the MPAA) the post and added that they officially deny having anything to do with this.
I e-mailed Nexicon and GetAmnesty to days ago, but haven’t heard back from them.
yours faithfully, Ernesto
Ernesto,
Thanks for:
1) removing the embarassing (blush) duplicates.
2) going the extra mile to verify your soucres.
Indeed, such acts demonstrate you are a man of integrity.
All the best!
MNG
Oh i would love to bring this to court.
Them–This isnt extortion
Me—”So your saying that if i call you up and tell you that I have pictures of you cheating on your wife with a las vegas hooker and I ask for money, thats not extortion either?”
Victory is mine! lo
you may be laughinalltheway to the courthouse. Nexicon signs another movie studio with many more to come.
which movies studio???
Fox?
Sony?
Universal?
Disney?
Paramount?
Lionsgate?
WB?
go ahead send me cease and desists or is it a “bill” …i’ll send you my laywers. what nexicon is doing is illeagal here in the EU. check logistep. i don’t think it is going to work with DMCA in USA either.
your buisness model is broke..go sells you pos penny stock somehwere else. lol.
people in the US are going to get your wish. Oh and for dessert they get a summons also.
hey nexiconian
summons ehh?
and where is (are) nexicon (you) going to get the personal info to serve such to the ‘pirates’ from?
i suggest you familiarize yourself with the DMCA and the mechanics of “good faith” C&Ds. If the intent is profit not enforcement vis a vis the C&D process…nexicon is going to have some ’splainin to do if they ever get to court. but i doubt it will even get that far since most isps will bit bucket the notices for their lack of good faith.
a predictable retort from you might be that nexicon’s lawyers have already green lighted the scheme. just wait till the eff comes slap them down in the defense of an alleged pirate. does nexicon, a cigarette sellin’ shit penny stock company with worthless management, really have the resources to follow though on a protracted legal battle. take a look at the fundamental financials…oh that’s right they have not filed them for any part 2006 or 2007 a sure sign of strength??? when becomes rapidly clear, as if it is not obvious already, that nexicon is a paper tiger shakedown outfit, their (your) threats and will be as meaningless as fart in the wind; and futhermore of zero value to customers and foolhearty shareholders alike.
my words may not be enough to destroy or even soften your miguided resolve; but know this nexicon has already stepped over the line in so many ways with getamnesty.com that their credibility in any legal claim will be undoubltedly impeached…and there aint any goin’ back.
this is the last desperate voyage of the ship of fools that is nexicon, i highly recomend you jump off now.
sorry for got the extra piece of advice in the second paragraph, first sentance:
“i suggest you familiarize yourself with the DMCA and the mechanics of “good faith” C&Ds…BEFORE YOU CONTINUE TALKING OUT YOUR ASS”
don’t you forget your life raft now.
I really don’t read anything in the DMCA that protects people who illegally distribute copyrighted materials.I do think your correct to argue the legal merits because that is what it will come down to should the people who broke the law decide not to pay for the stolen materials. your doubts concerning Nexicon ability to go forward are unfounded Nexicon will do what its says its going to do. Even though not directly involved in getamnesty.com i wonder if their coustomers the MPAA and SIIA might not have a rooting interest not to mention those associations members. When the smoke clears we will see what happens.
the 1st sentance of your reply is a classic red herring. indeed the dmca spells out the legalilities of file sharing, but it’s not such a bianary issue. there is plenty of nuance for attorneys to wrangle over.
what you blinded yourself to are the isp safe harbor provisions of the act that have to do with the good faith nature of c&ds and the language they must contain; and furthermore, how isps are pretty much free to practice their own interpretation. i just don’t see many passing on nexicon’s getamnesty “bills” to their customers; and there is plenty of wiggle room for them to give nexicon the finger and forget they ever existed.
now they could attempt to subpoena customer records as the riaa has, but then again nexicon’s resources are pretty much the polar oppopsite of the trade association of 4 mutibillion dollar companies.
regardless, as i mentioned before, nexicon has already committed unforgiveable sins, that will render their credibilty as utterly impotent in any court.
lastly, are mpaa & siia still paying customers?? really?? i’ve heard that both organizatron discretely severed all ties to company. nexicon was a shooting star in this business, that i was disappointed more than a few times at their repeated shortfall on promises. most mainstream rights holders now see nexicon as nothing more than smoke and mirrors.
Spout all the bullshit you want about “getamnestys” effect on the illegal distribution of copyrighted material but making blatantly inaccurate statements about Nexicons
current coustomers is libelous. You have heard nothing. Both are still coustomers. Though the may not be directly involved in “makepiratespay”.com I mean getamnesty.com.
hold the phone…let me make a few calls…
mpaa…nope not any more…and the author of this story found out: “The MPAA oficially denies having anything to do with GetAmnesty.” i got a little more from them, but i feel compelled not disclose that out of professional courtesy.
siia…left a voice mail with my man there, but i am familiar enough to stand by my claim.
there is one rumor, and it’s only that right now, i picked up from irc. it’s about the nature of “motion picture studios” nexicon signed for getamnesty. they are of the kind that has not releasd many theatrical features since the vhs spurred home emtertainment boom of the 80’s. if it’s true…i am pretty sure mainstream copyrightholders will find getamnesty just a little to sticky – if you know what i mean – to deal with.
all of this matters none, because you refuse to see nexion’s real fatal sins.
There are no claims of the MPAA being involved with Getamnesty.com. Should the MPAA deny any business relationship with Nexicon that could materially effect the stock and that would also be libelous. They would never do that. If they still do businesss with Nexicon.
true, there were never any direct claims of the mpaa’s involvement, but the orginal getamnesty release from nexicon implied at least such, or perhaps the siia; which led to wild speculation purveyed by this site. the more recent releases rferring to two “motion picture studio” signing on to the getamnesty program, have nothing to do with the mpaa or its members, the 6 majors, save lionsgate, mentioned by your eurodetratctor above.
the mpaa rarely discusses its relationships with its ap vendors publicly, which has served nexicon very nicely i assume…and probably has not felt to compelled to comment on its parting ways with nexicon since they did not produce one lick of public acknowledgement when the relationship began. they did promote nexicon as the next best thing in our “community”, but as i mentioned before, the long term results never materialized and never cease to disappoint….and none of their people were ever very well liked either.
as far as material effect on stock, and i know very little about such things, but what duty does the mpaa have about proactively informing the public about the current nature of their relationship with nexicon? I would think that is the responsibility of nexicon’s management. I would also guess, if what you say is true, given their other hamhanded egregious sins…there will be some more ’spainin to do, perhaps to the sec this time.
you said
“They [mpaa] would never do that. If they still do businesss with Nexicon.”
you can call the mpaa & ask the last time they cut a check…there is a very nice set of instructions on post #22.
or why dont you talk to your friends at nexicon to clarify there position since it would be so “material” to your current opinion.
The MPAA is not directly involved in “getamnesty.com” maybe I don’t know. This I know the MPAA is a current coustomer and they and there members who are not currently involved in the getamnesty.com program will be watching it very closley. The bottom line is that Getamnesty.com is alive and moving forward. Lets see what happens.
the mpaa, currently, is neither a coustomer nor customer of nexicon, plain and simple. you continue to talk out your ass regarding this.
getamnesty will amount to nothing…that’s zero, zip, nada. nexicon has always been short on delivery, the people who run it are no better than worthless, with zero credibility; and ga is a last desperate gasp at keeping the lights on. if the rumors are true about the nature of its “early adopters”/”customers”, the mpaa members wont touch it with a 10′ pole. and furthermore nexicon’s sins will furthermore alientae from any mainstream customer base.
come on, have you actually talked to the these close watchers?
what about the competitive offerings from the more established vendors in the space like mediasentry and baytsp?
logistep is trying to do the same thing europe?
why would rightholders trust the nexicon lackey’s over them?
you are nothing more than a delusional shill.
hey nexidronian,
afraid to come out and play today???
sorry for calling you a “delusional shill”
i meant delusional PIMP!
more copyrighted material to protect. maye they are making this up.
i doubt they are making up news about the “studios” they have signed up, since that would be outright fraud. after all porn is copyrighted too. but if you think mpaa members are going to buy into getamnesty after nexicon starts to “bill” for pirated adult flicks, than i have a bridge to sell you.
When your mother finds out you have illegaly downloaded skin flicks she will not be happy.Would every p2 to p2 user who has not downloaded porn please stand up.
nexidronian,
perhaps you have drawn upon personal experience in your first point, but your second is, i have to admit, valid. but then again it falls ginourmously short of any direct factual support for nexicon, and the joke that is getamnesty. also it does nothing to dilute the poison that this market strategy will do to kill off any mainstream rightsholder opportunity. just search ‘porn’ though this sight to see how the vanguards of porn copyright are fighting piracy.
nexicon is expecting to identify more than a million instances of piracy of its current customers material in the first month.
so they have 1 million public ips that they allege pirated skin flicks at a specific time – the vast majority of those ip addresses are dhcp leased by the isp. so what are they going to do with those spam isp admins with c&ds with alink to getamnesty? how are they going to get the personal info of the alleged infringers who dont comply or ignore? a few fools macy actually plunk their credit card down in the beginning, but the scheme will lose credibility fast and when a few decide to proactively take exception…nexicon sins will come to the surface and it will be crushed.
You may not believe it but some of thoses alleged pirates will get their day in court.
just like tanya andersen?
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070604-riaa-throws-in-the-towel-in-atlantic-v-andersen.html
just for moment, stop being nexidronian, and be your own man.
now think about the resources the riaa is losing this battle with. where is this pissant penny stock company going to get the its own resources to with the same tactics?
what makes you think that nexicon is even up to the task technically and businesswise to have the capability to sustain a real effort that would make than a few thousand bucks, while the riaa playing an already mediocre hand?
nexicon is nothing but a bluff? and it is ignorant dopes that don’t call them on it…that allows there meger existance to keep going..
dude call their bluff sometime and watch their house of cards implode.
if you don’t plenty of fileshareres will do what ms. andersen did and watch what happens.
$220,000 so much for all you closet legal experts. even though i think the fine is excessive. should have settled.
nexidrone
wtf are you talking about? tanya anderson fought the riaa with help of the eff, and the case was dismissed, there wer no fines
on the contrary, she has filed suit to be compensated for her legal fees and damages due to the abuse of process. furthermore, she was granted class action status for her suit. this kind of fight will be coming nexicons sooner than later and when they go to court they will be obliterated for their sins of past an d present.
i’ll bet that nexicon wants these fellas beind them:
http://www.queerty.com/porn/titan-cracking-down-on-porn-thieves-20071003/
dont you know if you stick around sooner those nexicon guys, youll end up witha sie 7 poopshoot?
Jammie thomas -220,000
indeed ms. thomas is one win and a case law precedent, but at what cost. with legal fees and expenses, i that the net after was positive, but much further on the contrary. and not all cases have gone “so well” for the riaa.
the overall point here is that cases like ms thomas cost money, which nexicon does not have and i dont the porno guys will be able to stomach. the riaa has deep pockets and so does the eff, nexicon and their smut peddling friends on the other hand, do not. moreover, what makes you believe nexicon capabilities are on par with mediasentry (riaa’s vendor) a subsidiary of a very well capitalized company?? sorry dude they just are not, it really more of a business issue than technical, management is just plain impotent, which led to its demise out of the mainstream rights holder market.
furthermore, nexicon has already played a dirty hand with getamnesty that they continue to…just look at the website for pete’s sake and their is plenty of dirt under the covers that they will be shown to be a farce in any courtroom if it ever comes to that.
The intention is not to prosecute everyone who pirates material. Just those who chose not to pay for it after being identified. companies will eventually pay for the deterrent factor.
at the cost of trying these cases at a high 6 fig to low seven fig loss, i doubt it. i grant you, there may be more than a few fools that pay the $25 settlement, but a contingency fee based business model is not sustainable…either the deterent factor works or its a paper tiger as i have suggested; either way the programs value will diminish over time and will generate enough revenue to cover the lawsuits some of the alleged pirates wit wild hairs up their asses will bring, with the likes of the eff and chilling effects coalition right by their side.
and this assumes (as you do so blindly) the program and the business behind it has done eeverything by the book…nexicon has not been an honest broker and has already comitted public sins that will ultimately impeach its credibility in any court of law. furthermore, i repeat, nexicon is run by lazy ass penny stock swindling dopes so if anything can be f’d up by the company, it will, despite how grand the idea is or the prototype is. have you actually seen the technology work over time at the scope and scale of management’s claims…or are you just another dupe who give them your $$$$$$$ and take their word for it….just like other fools have for almost a decade, with less than zero to show for it. is track record a consideration in your investments?
*****ommision***
and will **NOT** generate enough revenue to cover the lawsuits some of the alleged pirates wit wild hairs up their asses will bring, with the likes of the eff and chilling effects coalition right by their side.
Nexicon Signs Global Media and Entertainment Company to Contract
“The reports assist the company in identifying the illegal download of some of its blockbuster films and television shows. ”
More porn. Must be “vivid” HAHAHA.
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