Government Shuts Down BitTorrent Tracker
Written by enigmax on April 21, 2009Today the Malaysian government ordered prominent webhosting provider Shinjiru to close down BitTorrent site LeechersLair.com. The order came from the Content, Consumer and Network Security Division of the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission.
It hasn’t been a very good week for BitTorrent trackers, and all the signs are it’s going to get worse. We all know what happened last Friday and yesterday only brought more bad news, as many more trackers in Sweden decided to close.
This morning TorrentFreak was informed of the closure of another long-standing BitTorrent tracker.
Although it doesn’t have the profile of sites like The Pirate Bay, LeechersLair (LL) is a well-established tracker. Launched in 2006, LL has around 18,000 members who enjoy all the usual content. Until today the site was hosted in Malaysia – not any more.
This morning the Content, Consumer and Network Security Division of the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (SKMM) ordered Shinjiru, LeechersLair’s host, to close down the site, citing a breach of Section 41 of the Copyright Act 1987.
SKMM is a government body which enforces the communications and multimedia laws in Malaysia. It informed Shinjiru by faxed letter that if it failed to close LeechersLair, it would be breaking the law. Shinjiru immediately complied and took the site offline.
The government of Malaysia has moved against torrent sites hosted by Shinjiru before, as we reported back in June 2008, but most of them returned elsewhere.
However, there was a worrying development when one of the sysops of another torrent site, tbkresources.org – also hosted at Shinjiru, told TorrentFreak that a hard drive had been attached to their server and it was copying data for use in a copyright infringement case against them. Shinjiru confirmed the report.
At this stage it is unclear if LeechersLair will return, but we will update this post when we have more information. In the meantime other trackers hosted by Shinjiru continue to operate but whether or not they are being monitored is anyone’s guess.
Both Shinjiru and the Malaysian government were given the opportunity to comment, but as yet we’ve received no response.
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159 Responses
not good
so the bribe money was enough was it , wonder how the gvot there likes IT tax incomes and when you start this it lessons your revenues to taxes
as fewer kids get a use for HIGH SPEED anything.
Note it also means its time we all took a month off and said fuck the man
( ISP govt and mpaa/riaa )
300 million -400 million times say 50USD each for a month…
If they want the eocnomy wrecked LETS SMASH IT TO BITS/AND BYTES
OH and next gen torent site will have data dropped ot a drive in a heavily encrypted format so that prevents that tampering
damn, this week has so far sucked.
P2P will never die. It will just evolve.
Censored internet soon? =(
Shit is so scary…
bloody hell! no good news out there at all?
I belong to the Lair and never understood why after the last incidents regarding Malaysian government a$$holes interference, it wasn’t moved to a safer location.
I have no doubt LL will be back up shortly as soon as new hosting is found.
Things really arn’t looking good for BitTorrent at the moment. I guess it’s kind of natural though, as something becomes more and more popular, it’ll get more and more attention.
As 4 so rightly said, P2P will just have to evolve and find a new way to survive.
wtf week and adding salt and lot more 2 injury. F@$k this stupidity.
Yah im a lairer too and I hope they get it up somewhere else soon.. ive been at the lair for 3 years so i wouldnt want to see it go.
Everyone make sure your IP blocklists are up to date. According to a post in the PG2 forums, the main list maintainers at Bluetack left and started their own group. Be careful if you’re still using Bluetack’s lists, as they might not be reliable. More info here:
http://forums.phoenixlabs.org/showthread.php?t=17291
Please help spread the word!
Bad week so far. Hope it will bounce back in sometime.
and people still thinking that private trackers are safer, they are copying all the data to use against the owners and maybe against the users… its time to envolve, torrent sites are ridiculous dangerous now…
This will eventually seem like the MPAA’s proffits with dandwidth used.
“As we can see, torrent traffic has plummeted, as has our proffits but now its not being pirated!”.
Meanwhile in the real world…
“Crikey, theres been total collapse of torrent data going around… and a coresponding increment in encrypted traffit plus a few 10%… just like how our proffits migrated to gaming instead of our price comparable on purchase music CDs…”
If this works they will never notice that f*** all has changed apart from they can’t see it anymore…
who ever the fook gave this info is lying LL will never shut down hahahaha
Oh additinaly, I had an idea about running something like seti@home as a distributed tracker. Combine with some TOR magic to bamboozle anyone trying to track it and… well I’m not an advanced programmer, I have no idea if this is practicle.
LL will be back, the malaysian government do it every year, since there is nothing hosted on their server that LL is hosted on i dont think theres anything to worry over despite what happened last week. They will be back up in a day or so once the government are satisfied with theie checks
When will the assholes of anti piracy understand this.
If millions of people break the law, it is the law that should be changed not the people.
Wake up guys.This is our internet going up in flames.
Pussies, fight the power!
As I said. We are making progress.
Stop pirating or go to jail. We are watching everyone, you can’t hide.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
all your internetz r belong to the corporations.
@20
Can’t hide eh?
*continues to use heavily encrypted VPN connection*
Now that you have managed to record what is essentialy white noise, and the software randomly generates new encryption keys for the connection regularly (ie it isnt recorded and beyond human means to recall) then how can you proove it wasnt mere white noise, a _lot_ BBC iPlayer and not a torrent of something the RIAA has its nose to the ground over?
ya progress to oblivion troll man
in fact all your doing is putting yourselves out of business and that will and cant come soon enough
A) ill never goto a theatre again in my natural life.
B) i will never buy a music cdr or dvdr
C) ill never buy a dvdr of a movie or bluray ever
D) while i may buy the odd game that’s cause that industry hasn’t gone completely stupid, when it does that’s it ill be migrating to linux 100% and using all 18000 opensource games available
P.S. if you get a levy form canada and you do not provide us with a place to get stuff on that levy, it is FRAUD, and id like my money back then. ALL 350 million of it.
@Fin
The outfits always win the propaganda war because their point of view gets more media attention. Now that TPB has entered the scene , all of this is going to change.
Bugger, bollox, dammit!!!!
This is rubbish…who wrote this nonsense lol
Man Leecher’s Lair was gonna close anyways. Owner was having problems funding the site after a server upgrade, begging for funds he was, then this happens. Recon it was goin down anyways. I still had feckin freeleech slots to use up too. The owner is probably glad not to have to beg for any more money. There are many other trackers out there that will never close. Stay strong my friends, after the pirate bay wins their appeal this will all blow over
I guess I will go and buy some music now….
… naahhh,
OVER MY COLD DEAD BODY I WILL!
Enjoy your anarchist internet while you still have it. When we are through democracy will finally be established over the internet, just like it was intended from the start.
qwerty123 fuck off
PG is garbage. The concept is flawed and all their lists are shit anyway.
I hate leechers lair, they banned some of of us guys at H33T just because we upload there on a awesome public tracker and not on their tracker, they have something aganst us?
The internet is not a country dipsht, It was intended to use for the shareing of information. It is at its golden Age, trolls like you are trying to kill it
Leecherslair will not be closing down one way or another. I am waiting to hear the outcome of what will happen after they inspect the servers in the morning. If they do not put the site back online then it’s no biggie as I’ll just move to a different host anyhow which is what I will be doing in the next few weeks anyhow as Shinjiru can no longer be trusted as a host for trackers.
Merlin
Leecherslair owner
PS… All sites have lean times for server donations and we are no exception, however our members rally round in times of need and cover the costs no problems, they just need a reminder from time to time which most will tell you themselves :)
During this skint period, would it be cheaper for us to buy the best ‘internets’ we can afford, alongside your favorite ‘Privacy-sensible-SwissVault-access log deleting’ VPN, and send any ‘Content Lobby Leech/MaFiORGGG’ affilate to Coventry/Hell.
Stop paying any ££-$$ “at all” to the corporate-greedy-manipulative-overpaid-middlemen scumbag hands.
Fair enough, this is gonna cost you and content producers at first, but.
1 – Your privacy’s assured.
2 – It may allow for more use of people’s newfangled-boosted upload speed/while not been worried about been monitored sharing “The” new movie, and so whole BT swarmspeeds increase a little, hopefully…
3 – “Actual Content Producers” get promoted with the more efficient pollenation through the torrent network.
4 – We get a Download/Donate/Buy HD content on “Actual Content Producers” trackers..?
5 – ISP’s are on a win, VPN’s are on a win, “ACP’s” are on a win, TPB’s back on a win and we the Consumer’s get what we actually want to consume easier.
6 – Mr Middlemen, get to learn how to “Share and Care” the hard way, hopefully at the Jobcentre queue.
Viable? Bet not…;p
@29 RIAA/MPAA_biach
16 is such a great age so enjoy it and go get laid . Or ectasy 2stack will let you love yourself….xD
As for the rest of this fear not the law….It has always been corruptible but the evolution of a pirate isn’t..
@29 RIAA/MPAA_biach
Being young is great so enjoy it and go get laid . Or ectasy 2stack will let you love yourself….xD
As for the rest of this fear not the law….It has always been corruptible but the evolution of a pirate isn’t..
The internet being a democracy? lol. If that was the case I believe that there are more pirates than there are RIAA/MPAA fags. Wouldn’t we win the election? Wouldn’t we kick you off the internet? Wouldn’t we silence all of your stupidity? If the corporations governed the internet no one would use it because all it would be would be advertising for their individual products. Its stupid. The internet is used for information sharing. Not everything in this world needs to be raped until its useless for profit. What happens when you lose profit because you scared your customers away? Who would you blame then?
Merlin, back in 2008 when many sites were smart and took heed to the warnings about the Malaysian government being influenced by the MPAA, they packed up shop and moved. You didn’t tho sir, so I ask…how can you imply that you can be trusted? Seems that you have actually put many users information on the line by continuing to host w/in that country no?
Actually we did move servers under the recommendation of Shinjiru, they told us to move our site to their Hong Kong servers where they would be perfectly safe from this happening again. Seems they weren’t telling the truth. As for members information all logs and download information was removed as I still have access to the server. So I suggest you check out the facts first before passing accusations.
Accusation? naw. Pertinent question? Yeah. Well done then m8.
I ain’t leaving nothing behind for them to use against anyone :)
Should just move all servers to China. They hack US military computers and the US is too scared to say anything to China.
it’s all wack-a-mole here. I say do you’re worst.
This is good news.
The same bright minds that brought us the Torrent are working on more anonymous, distributed technologies that will make it immensely harder for copyright watchdogs to track.
Sharing is a basic human need (be it files or otherwise), and to think it can be legislated away is arrogant.
“breach of Section 41 of the Copyright Act 1987”
That really says it all, doesn’t it?
A hopelessly out of touch law drafted more than a decade before the BitTorrent protocol was invented.
And they wonder why people don’t take copyright seriously anymore? Laugh. The laws are stuck in the last century.
Anyway, here’s a quick pick-me-up. Their membership has slowed down, but the Piratpartiet might yet overtake the Centerpartiet and become the third biggest political party in Sweden after new numbers show the Centerpartiet as having 4,000 less members.
http://www.piratpartiet.se/storlek
Hey Merlin! So we will all have to seed again or will we have the ratio we had? ( I’m a noob , with a 3,0 ratio though )
(p.s. open the registrations for the forum so we can get all the news faster…)
Please support artists by buying their music directly from their sites, not from the riaa middlemen.
Whenever they don’t sell direct, share away.
This won’t help artists who’ve already signed distribution deals with studios, but it will help the new generation of content creators.
hey come here, is safier
@29
Actually, there was very little democracy on the Internet in the early days. The initial intended purpose of the Internet was strictly for research purposes and the SHARING of information. Commercial activity of any kind was banned, as they feared the capitalists ways would distort and sideline the research being conducted (in part, by using up the limited bandwidth). No corporation was allowed to have a webpage or use e-mail (as that would be a commercial purpose) until rules were relaxed in the early 90’s resulting from technological advancements which permitted higher volumes of data traffic. I fail to recognize how banning legitimate activities is related to democracy
Perhaps you need to do some communication and culture studies. It will help you and the MAFIAA recognize why your business models are failing in the new economy, and perhaps give you some insight into how to rescue what is left.
It is time for anonymous trackers to reign and for public Google-based websites to store .torrent files. UDP hole-punching, DHT and PE also need to be strengthened for the sharing ideology to continue. These are dire times and we need to cope.
Thanks for the information Merlin! I saw the site has been down all day, then read this and almost had a heart attack lol. Long live LL!!
Fuck Scotty2k, poncholo and all their uploaders I hope u guys get nailed, torrent thief bitches.
All this effort to try to control piracy.
Surely our governments would be more concerned about reviving our economies, stopping kiddie porn, pedophiles, credit card/identity theft/fraud, rapists, murderers and terrorists? I guess stopping a college student from downloading a stupid movie or song is apparently worthy of far more attention?
Seriously.
I’m all for proxies, encryption, VPN’s, private trackers and more. We can evolve and we will survive. The RIAA/MPAA are dinosaurs that will eventually become extinct.
i posted that i ran http://www.happytrackit.com the last tracker close post, but in case anyone wants the source code to my site, so they can run their own, contact me from there. I will even help you set it up if you want.
stop being pussies.
I am sure LL will be back.
I m downgrading my internet package to 512kbps.I think its enough for browsing.Will wait for bittorrent trackers to be up again and will again renew my package.
Fuck All who r against internet freedom and doesnt want real power in the hands of comman man
quote:
RIAA/MPAA_biach
“As I said. We are making progress.
Stop pirating or go to jail. We are watching everyone, you can’t hide.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA”
You have no chance to survive make your time. All your tapes are belong to us.
This is disscussing. Copyright was created so the orginal owners could profit off thier work for a SHORT period afterwhich it became public domain…….. Greed and More greed has turned copyright into somthing that was good and had a purpose into this evil and just there to facilite a small number of peoples greed!
Wont sombody think of the children :)
you bitches are getting your toes burned and crying about gov’t and capitalism.
hahahaha.
TPB dudes mocked the corporations and now they’ve spent time in court.
sure, they’ll probably win on appeal, a nd sure, filesharing will evolve and survive…but, there will be bitch times when your asses are strapped to a chair in a courtroom and you *have to* pay attention to the laws.
you can’t have your cake and eat it ALL THE TIME bitches.
hahahahaha i love it.
i was so shocked to hear news from @digg_technews that “government shuts down bit Torrent site”
well , it bad to hear , cause torrent is not illegal ,
This is FASCISM! The governments own us all, we are nothing! This is not a war against piracy, its a ****ing war against FASCISM. A fight for FREEDOM!
Okay I’m from Malaysia and let me tell you a bit about it.
IT. HAS. THE. SHITTEST. INTERNET. EVER.
There’s no fucking point of seeding torrents in malaysia because the government has already capped P2P since 200 B.C.e
The highest peer to peer download I ever had is 30kbps.
Nothing of value is lost.
I like Malaysias flag, tis very pretty.
and fuck the record company`s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cextxQZz28o
its bad news but it dose not matter soon the pirate bay will win and then will be able to the haters to cleaners they will pay for their crimes against humanity.
LONG LIVE MERLIN AND THE LAIR!!! All members end up helping to try and keep that site up – at least I did, can’t wait till it comes back =D
“Actually, there was very little democracy on the Internet in the early days. The initial intended purpose of the Internet was strictly for research purposes and the SHARING of information. Commercial activity of any kind was banned, as they feared the capitalists ways would distort and sideline the research being conducted (in part, by using up the limited bandwidth). No corporation was allowed to have a webpage or use e-mail (as that would be a commercial purpose) until rules were relaxed in the early 90’s resulting from technological advancements which permitted higher volumes of data traffic. I fail to recognize how banning legitimate activities is related to democracy
Perhaps you need to do some communication and culture studies. It will help you and the MAFIAA recognize why your business models are failing in the new economy, and perhaps give you some insight into how to rescue what is left.”
ROFLMAO, please go back to school you stupid d!ckweed.
Aside from the fact that corporations were well and truly using the internet backbones in the early 70’s, very much for commercial purposes you numbskull, the reason that corporations didn’t have (or “not allowed” as you so stupidly put it) web pages before the early 1990’s is that the web itself wasn’t invented until then. Probably your so stupid that you think the web is “the internet” though right…
Wow, you certainly are a dumb schmuck – either you imagined that whole scenario or your sources are shoddily and absolutley wrong: probably some whackjob conspiracy site I’m betting complaining about how “corporations rule teh intarwebz” or some crap.
Oh, and BTW, the “initial intended use” of the internet was to connect computers in a network that wouldn’t go down if one or more of the computers was knocked out. By a nuclear strike. It was invented at DARPA, the leading research facility of the US Department of Defense.
You fail so hard… it’s scary that someone can be so uninformed. Almost every point in your little diatribe is complete crap. Next time try a well-regarded source such as Wikipedia for you infomation instead of listening to crackpots please before spreading such garbage around.
Moron.
What exactly is news here?
18k people losing their tinny tracker .or. undemocratic government that obeys its masters?
simple problem with simple solve
they will move to another host,
i think they only try to make a lot of actions in one week to make us scary or something
and oh ya i think i am scary i want to piss but on your faces mother fuckers
NEHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
oh ya and for Malaysian government
plz suck my balls
You never get to read these type of news in Malaysia’s major news paper at all…
Seems like the government are very good at censoring the information and not cause a havoc among the teenagers and kids…
But someone will soon upload the news to the local famous forum soon enough…
#46 – My answer for you is “undemocratic government that obeys its masters”
Long live LL!!!
LL will bounce back stronger and better thats for sure Merlin knows what he is doing and is good at what he does…
Although this is a bad week for BitTorrent, p2p will go on. Just look at the past: first u had Napster > shutdown, after that came clients like Kazaa and Limewire, after u get Sites like Suprnova and Torrentspy. New technologies come and go. Yes this sucks, but no not the end of P2P
@55
[quote]i posted that i ran http://www.happytrackit.com the last tracker close post, but in case anyone wants the source code to my site, so they can run their own, contact me from there. I will even help you set it up if you want[/quote]
Share your source in your tracker, dont require contact thats just too lame. Make you source sticky and make good detail page for it. P2p Revolution needs all soures without limits… Remember some of us still want to be anonymous even we make some shit out there :)
Fight the power, users!!
The future is not for Tyranus Rex and company, but freedom is not given to you; it must be taken and defended. The conservative suits ALWAYS stand in the way of progress. They want to maintain the status quo business model for the simple reason that THEY benefit from it, it`s not a moral issue. It is a revolution.. but not all just revolutions are won in the first battle. Endurance and persistence is key to success, in addition to adaptability. We will win in the end.
++Sharing is caring++
Mis them already, my daily site, with a very good overview to the latest shows from around the world.
Go for it LL.
Hi Merlin, thank you for the info and your continuous dedication to LL and it’s users.
Things like this only make a community stronger!
Looking forward to see LL back online :-)
FFFFS! i was sitting there refreshing for ages wondering wtf was happening
Guys join h33t they will nevershut down :D h33t.com
the pirate sites are falling like dominoes :)
what are you thieves gonna do when they are all shut down?
:) :) :)
this is great news.
Don’t make me laugh, it’s a fail site. You might as well just join The Pirate Bay as h33t is just a public tracker by default. A crappy public tracker to boot but with less content with the same shitty speeds.
Private tracker users want various things: high speeds provided by seedboxes, good community, great pre times and great content, in some cases exclusive content – try finding obscure music, movies and TV anywhere else other than BMTV, What & Karagaga (just a few examples).
And they want enforcement of sharing policies (…funny how many public users whine about private trackers saying “it’s all about sharing for everyone” when a majority of public users hit and run and DONT share).
h33t has none of these things and is fail. People that think h33t is good are pretty clueless about how to download content and what else is out there.
Public Tracker = Noob
waffles = tasty mmmmmmm oh baby
@24 actually when i was a kid in the early 80’s the game industry was as hard knocks as the RIAA and MPAA are today but they discovered over time it was not resource friendly to continue fight that is way today there is no one chasing game traders… remember gaming and apps where the first things to be traded online music and Medea came yrs later because there was no encryption (mp3 or avi not to forget to mention hard drive space) and the bandwidth was piss poor with the dial up modems :(… but in the mid 90s came faster internet and by the late 90’s mp3’s came to life and nothing would have happened as to popularity if the RIAA had not sued Napster… it is for this reason alone sites like LL exist today… so these ppl at the RIAA have a lot of guilt to deal with because it is their fault… napster only had less then 100,000 users world wide 1 week and the week following of the Medea exposure well over a million it doubled every week up wards to 10million…
@Merlin
thanks for reporting to us on ur status good luck in ur getting ur site back up…
Yep: public trackers are for noobs, stupid, cluless and ignorant noobs who don’t have any idea about how much better things can be and spout crap like ‘TPB FTW’ endlessly which makes us private trackers laugh ourselfs silly at the retardation being demonstrated.
I mean seriously… all the moronic noobs must have a screw loose and think all the elite just hang out at private to feel exclusive or sometings. Rather than the pre times, content, speeds, trusted uploaders… speeds, speeds and speeds.
F*** public, the elite know how to download properly.
*waits for obligatory angry response containing accusations of elitism and not being “true to p2p” blah blah*
wonder how this is going to affect me as my site is hosted by them as well think i need to start looking for a new host now thanks for heads up
Typical Public Tracker situation:
ATM am downloading Nitro Circus s1e10 from TPB as it didn’t pre.
connected to 89 of 96 seeds
connected to 12 of 17 peers
@59% completion speed hasn’t gone over 20 kB/s
With an SLR like of over 5 that is absolutley appalling.
Public Trackers are crap… phail much.
@80 you are right but so mean at your point…
this is why the noobs think the worst case of the veterans the lack of love by them that have and the have nots wanting it… private tracks are better bar none… public trackers are usually the first step for the noobs then they realize there is more… it doesnt make them dumb just new they will learn but there is no need to rip on the have nots… if they want to believe TPB is all that for them it is… thats great there is more ppl in this movement now that believe in it after all p2p is about the love of ur fellow internet buddies…
private tracker = mafia(a) wife
RIAA/MPAA Biatch/Troll says that the RIAA and MPAA will bring “democracy to the internet.” Go visit the People’s Republic of China some day. No “democracy” there, but you can download all the copyrighted stuff you want. And good luck getting the laws changed there!
P2P Will Never Die !!!
Sweden and now Malysia.Holland? No safe Heaven.
We need to think more but pirates dont worry our new version will be more better ;-).
Dont be a pessimist.
All I can say is … Welcome to Malaysia… :)
The land that anything CAN happen…
“so these ppl at the RIAA have a lot of guilt to deal with because it is their fault… napster only had less then 100,000 users world wide 1 week and the week following of the Medea exposure well over a million it doubled every week up wards to 10million…”
Without talking about the fact that Napster was probably the only solution to compensate the artists fairly via a global license since a centalized system coud have deliver very accurate statistics.
Now I don’t want to hear about any global licence since it will only result in the RIAA/MPAA/IFPI corporations of parasites to profit from my stuff illegally.
This piece of shit have no right to prevent me form distributing my own copyrighted stuff on bit-torrent in general!
I HAVE IT WIHT THEM! I HAVE IT WITH THEM!AND I AM GOING TO RAISE HELL LITERALLY!
TPB sux, I hope those enabler thieving scumbags rot in jail for years and are bankrupted by the fine (which is way too low IMO).
Screw TPB, profiteering pirate scum.
Merlin,
Glad to see LL will be back, it has been a black week.
the sooner the better.
Long Live Leechers Lair!
This is just prove “THE MAN” its afraid.
I havent spend a cent in years for music, but thx to that im going to more concerts, coz the artists where just seat in there asses collecting money from there 20dlls cds and now they go out to perform, an actor gets 6 figures for a movie at least, they havent earn any less since the times of p2p began.
the man in the desk is afraid, he thinks he can stop this, but he cant, he will never stop this.
“L.L.L.L.”
“the elite know how to download properly.”
lol
You mean the “elite” are pathetic basement dwelling losers who obsess over kilobytes per second because they have nothing else in their lives.
Private tracker snobs(i.e., won’t touch public trackers with a 10 foot pole) don’t care about permanently changing the way content gets distributed or the digital free culture revolution. The brush that the MAFIAA tries to paint all filesharers with is dead-on in the case of “elite” private tracker users. The only thing they care about really is getting stuff for free.
The world hardly needs more leeches like you.
I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore!!!
I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore!!!
I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore!!!
What we need right now is just a place where all the stuffs can be hosted.
We definitely need a safer place for those uncensored / copyrighted contents. I’ve been waiting for the VPN by The Pirate Bay.
IM BEHIND THE LAIR ALL THE WAY
IF THEY WANT US TO STOP COPING THEY SHOULD BRING THE RETAIL PRICES TO MATCH THE PIRATE PRICES
ROCK ON MERLIN AND THE LAIR
why do ISPS get intimidated so easily? this is ridiculous. Ok, so we are not going to attack the site’s owners but the middle men. This is hypocrisy. Why? the RIAA claims it is depleted out of money when the artists are going to get it. NOw the ISPS will cry when their pockets will not be filled up… and guess who is guilty for ordering them to shut down the sites? MPA and governments. Eventually if we would make many more torrent sites and trackers perhaps this will be so popular that we can make the ISPS economy depend on these, and os there would be no other choice but to leave these sites and trackers live. Sometimes things byte you in some places, and this one can’t be let down as a possibility.
I’ll be brief. I pirate and am not an evil person who will drain sociaty or corrupt your children,. I pirate because it brings joy in my life through game, movies, music, and whatever. I dont have money to pay for all the stuff I pi9rated, never will.
In a perfect sociaty everyone has equal opportunity. In america (real life) people do not have equal opportunity. I will explain: If I was born into a family with lots of money, im more likely to succeed then someone who was not. The location I live in the united states (what state) determines how far I can go in life. Lets be real about it now. One could argu well move to a higher populated, more industrious area. That means leaving friends and family for better oppurtunites, some choice. It’s not an equal choice. One could say go to college if our not from a well financed family to compete in the market and better your life to buy things. If everyone went to college, then who woulld pump gas? Think about that. Society requires a tier of financial status based on ocupation. Everyone CANNOT earn high dollors or even be equal. Grunt work or hard labor = less pay cause people prefere not to do it and go to college to avoid that job like the plague.
So here I am tired of running the rat-race life, hunting for the “american dream”. You trade in 8 yrs for a “shot” at getting better then average. Some make it some don’t I dont see the point in even trying when I want to spend the time I have left enjoying life. Not working for some corporate people can make high yield on the dollor with my labor. Life is not fair so I make due with what I have.
No government will tell me I cannot download. Thats telling me I have to life without my happiness. I would rather slit my wrists then live in a zombie robotic world where im just another number. I will continue to download illegal file till the day I die!!
The FBI, IFPA, the MPAA, IPRED can al go to hell and I’m not afraid to say it. Knock on my door, I’ll still download. I’ll stop when society presents a fairer option. Where companies arent allowed to hijack artists money and raise consumer prises to line there wallets. I’ll stop when it is “truely am equal opportunity continant I live on. And I promise to stop the day I
Rock on Garambolero. Im with ya 100%
We havent gone anywhere, watch this space :)
Been a member of the Lair for a while now, and it is a great community. Just a bunch of friends sharing media. Definitely look forward to having it back up and running.
Good luck, Merlin!
“21 Apr 21, 2009 at 23:30 by RIAA/MPAA_biach
As I said. We are making progress.
Stop pirating or go to jail. We are watching everyone, you can’t hide.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA”
@ that Twat, have you seen what you get in jail these days, free tv, free sky, all the gaming in the world, free internet, free food, roof over your head, and you still get paid, so remind me, wheres the loss again? Makes it all the more worth while.
Hahahaha back at you :)
Oh and it was 20,000+ members, just from one site alone thats alot of freebies in jail :D
LL was the best tracker ever. screw them all.
I get the feeling that the Douchebag who runs the site just finished collecting “donations” for this months server bill and just closed it down and took the $$$. I got 3 threatening emails and special donor offers then 2 days before it shut the server bills were miraculously covered. I think he just took the money and ran.
i doubt he spend yrs with LL just to still hundreds of dollars
i doubt he spend yrs with LL just to steal hundreds of dollars
I’m all for private trackers only the ones who have at least 50,000 or people, preferrably 100k or (I know unrealistic) 250k. Private trackers you ALWAYS see 1-3 seeds on AVERAGE per torrent cause everyone is too worried about ratios and not enough people with 20k leaching to upload to. It’s all BS unless its a big site.
Look at demonoid, bitsoup, any one abouve 50k is doing awsome. So LL and any small tracker should honostly burn to the ground or put up
@108
every site starts of small mine has just over 18,000 members at mo but getting around 200 new members a day and bitsoup and that all started off with 1 member the owner so think before ya post
@108
the problem is a lot of these smaller sites are scared to give larger allotments with donations… such as myself i have always paid for my ratio at bitsoup… which in turn supports the site and allows other users to get their ratios up… bitsoup has alot of ppl such as myself there and there is other sites out there that have the same ideals but they also have a dedicated server and those are the ones that i always see thriving
his is good news.
The same bright minds that brought us the Torrent are working on more anonymous, distributed technologies that will make it immensely harder for copyright watchdogs to track.
Sharing is a basic human need (be it files or otherwise), and to think it can be legislated away is arrogant.
PLEASE bring out the secret weapon before their is a panic in Gotham City tonight. I know it will and I know their are test going on……don’t let us wait till 2015 !! Long live LL and all private trakers and all internet community……WE ARE A GIANT FAMILY. WE, ALL UNITED.
man i hope they are back soon.
this is so not good!
@pfc
LL will bounce back stronger and better thats for sure Merlin knows what he is doing and is good at what he does…
i wouldnt be to sure about that HAHAHAHAHAHA
I hope LL will be back up soon. LL IS the best site I have never got faster downloads anywhere – 2.3MBps – was average for me. :-)
Merlin,Do Your Magic!We will follow where you lead.
Long Live LL!
@ BULLSHIT you seem to live up to your name, you know nothing sunshine now grow a set of balls and wind your neck in.
LL is the best site I have had the privilege to be apart of.
I trust in Merlin and LL staff completely.
If you have a problem with the site then just don’t visit!!
Merlin, I know u will be back and I will be waiting.
merlin is a fucking faggot. i really hope ll crashes and burns, he really fucked up ll hard.
LMAO @ ALL THE N00BS THAT ARE WAITING FOR ME TO BRING BACK THE LAIR….
KEEP WAITING
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
whats been going on in usa is that the lawsuits have cost more than they netted and werent effective, not alot of big fines levied. adjusting the strategy they (mpaa riaa with help of fbi) are finding isps who are willing to take money to hand over names or give warnings at least. money hungry isps with weak morality go for it and get paid on both ends, i dont think they want to cancel your connection because they lose money but are willing to at least formally warn/scare you. evidently some isps are looking though and its not impossible they will hand over your name to the authorites, its a chance you take. a friend of mine using time warner cable got a warning letter for downloading some hbo series off a public tracker but it was like the only thing he ever downloaded but he got the warning letter for it. they still aint makin money on busting people but its more effective in slowing down the overall bandwidth used in torrenting.
Look my name is Merlin also. haha
this is a test of the merlin posting system if this was a real emergency this test will be followed by a lot of bullshit! carry on folks
I’ve added bittorrent to my malware detection software so that any .tor files are preemptvely and proactively scrubbed. I also have scripts that block torrent files and clients from running on my network and on all copies of Windows, mac and linux, and all ports are blocked.
My server will not recognize a file unless the ownership and permissions are embedded within.
congratulations douche bag you are the most secure fag ever. you do know it takes only one lie to take anyone down. all microsoft has to do is agree and make a patch for everyone to download and label it security patch kb11232324. you know they don’t have to include the truth in the patch notes. remember its the truth until proven a lie.
Some peoples jealousy never ceases to amaze me…….so why are you hiding behind stupid nicks such as ffffffffffffffffff, c’mon seriously dont you have a playground to go play in somewhere?
You know if LL was back you would be one of the first ones to sign up again.
Gobby bunch of two faced twats you are.
LL wishes to thank all the GOOD members, all the DONATERS, without you LL wouldn’t have survived as long as it did :)
So, who gives a shit?
LL is just a two-bit operation anyway. And the guy who runs it never ceases sending out his pathetic donation begging emails. How can you put a stop to them? You can’t. Every few days you log an, and there again is another snivelling, whimpering pleading for more server money. What a jerk.
Why do you bother to log in then Damien? Are you waiting until Merlin announces that it is freeleech for the rest of the month.
Asshole
Why leecher come back soon
Freeleech? LOL. What a fuckin’ joke! Listen buddy, the whole site is freeleech for me. How? Well, did you ever hear of Ratio Maker? Go and look it up, shit-for-brains.
no veo nada de malo en compartir material con copiright… actores siguen en sus mansiones .cantantes despilfarran millones a gusto y la unica vez que vi alegando a alguien multimillonario porque lo piratearon fue a wolverine hace poco y le encuentro razon… ademas somos los pobres los que hacemos ricas a estas personas cuando vamos al cine o compramos sus discos
por ejemplo bill gates es el hombre mas rico del mundo sin embargo creo que su windows es lo que mas se ha pirateado en el planeta asi y todo sigue siendo el mas rico me opongo a la pirateria desde el siguiente punto de vista: si original vale lo que gano en una o dos horas compro original yo gano 1000 dolares mensuales soy de un pais no desarrollado me gusta ver series las cuales valen aqui 100 dolares por temporada para comprar una serie entera de 10 temporadas debo trabajar un mes entero y gastar todo mi sueldo si esta serie entera costara mucho menos la compraria original ademas cuando algun material pirateable se agota original la unica forma de conseguirlo es la pirateria por ejemplo best of the beast iron maiden edicion 2 discos descontinuada hace años donde mierda la consigo original??
original muy caro = optar por pirateria
si no entienden español traduscalo al ingles chao y suerte
Claro amigo.
Freeleech? LOL! The whole site is freeleech all the time for me buddy. How? Easy! Ever hear of Ratio Maker? Look it up, moron.
i hate people anti piracy in this kind of post .if you hate piracy go to hell and buy some originals
spend your time and your money in other site ..this is for people not for you so go to eat cock and donate all your money to michael jackson
@134
can u not tell this is an English forum? have some respect and use common sense if u want ppl to read ur posts as of right now 99% of us can not understand what u just rambled out… seems to be a lack of education on ur behalf…
@138 Pues, a mi me parece que solo lo que tendras que hacer is que aprender el espanol. No es muy dificile… si no es un idiota. :-)
I dont understand why you people are so worried.
Leechers Lair is some Half arsed – badly run site – owned by a self proclaimed internet expert with a bad attitude.
There is plenty better sites around with better staff and better files
You guys need to look around more if you think LL is the best site on the net – Because its far from it !!!
http://www.scenedemon.com
Wel zou can say all bad things about LL, but few of us who are with it for years, we know Merlin and how much he is trying to achieve.
1. HE OFTEN COVERS COSTS BY HIMSELF.
2. IT IS NOT NEED BUT WISH TO KEEP IT ALIVE.
3. ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT HE IS WRONG, PLEASE STAY OUT OF LL, WE DONT NEED OR WANT YOU THERE.
LONG LIVE LL and OUR FRIEND MERLIN.
LOL @ blacknight.
You sound very much like the morons who idolised that cretin who ran Lokitorrent a couple of years ago. Remember him? The site was hit, and he bgean collecting donations off all the mindless morons who thought they were doing the right thing by sending him money. ROFLMFAO. What a joke that turned out to be eh?
well if he is having to cover costs himself it proves the site users dont like the site very much lmao
my view on it is peopel would make torrent sites to downlaod content if goverments warent so greedy peopel could then be able to purchasethe stuff they r trying to prevent
via la torrent
I know I am a jumped up cock and still have to be a member of LL even if I do use ratio maker because thats just really how damn good that fucking site was.
Sorry I take back my other posts because I’m a moron.
Thanks for explaining things to me Damien. I just downloaded RatioMaker and I’m going to see if I can get it to work. It seems quite complicated though. There are some big words in the instructions, and I might be too stupid to understand them. I’ll give it a try though. Thanks again.
Userpaul.
PS. My name’s not really Paul. That’s just a clever thing I thought up all by myself, to trick people. Hehe.
Not like me then, I use my real name because if I used my actual site nick people might know who I am lol
That’s cos your too frightened to use your site nick as your scared you’d lose your account.
Talk about being a coward, slag the site off and not have the balls to use your site nick!!!
Unfortunately, nobody knows who I am. I post in forums and always use the same nick wherever I go. I thought it would kinda make me famous or something. I guess I’ll just have to wait and see. It upsets me sometimes, but my mum tells me not to worry. She even says that my balls could drop any day soon. Gee. That’d be really cool.
We know who you are!!!
Becareful your balls dont drop too low lol ;)
Dont wanna be tripping over them :P
I would just like to say, we dont care what you horrid bitchy people say about LL, all the bad things just shows your jealousy, what were you banned or something LOL
I love Merlin he rocks, hes more of a man than any of you will ever be and have you seen him, phwoarr!!!
I sit and worship the ground he walks on, he has a vile mouth at times but hes to the point and doesnt beat about the bush, if you dont like it, just dont listen duh!!
God bless you Merlin, I will always love you forever and ever, dont listen to the saddos here that have bad things to say, 1 bad comment = 5 good ones, I know I sat and counted for you :)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I love Merlin too. He’s wonderful. I think he might even be God or something. Everyone who is making fun of him and LL are just very, very, VERY jealous. So there! I’m going to pray to Jesus tonight that you will be OK, and that LL will soon be back online. Here’s hoping. Yay!
Userpaul XXXXXXXXXX
Love and kisses.
You get off my Merlin, hes all mine, well you can worship him from a distance I guess but you do just that and keep your distance……..
Merlin I love you I do xxxxxxxx
Can’t we share him? Maybe you have him Monday Wednesday and Friday, and I have hime Tuesday, Thursday and …. and…. and that other day…
Then on Sunday he can have a day off to make sure that LeechersLair gets better. I sure do hope so. Isn’t that a great name for the site btw? It just shows how amazingly smart Merlin is. Just think, he came up with that name all on his own, and it just says it all don’t it? Cos it’s a lair for leechers. Anybody else would probably have thought of something stupid like FarmersLair or CarMechanicsLair or something.
Merlin is a genius. I think he should run for president. Yay!
Can I just ask everyone here to make a donation? The server costs are very high this month and I need the money. You all use my site but never pay a cent. Now it’s time to hand over your money. Do you think I do all of this for free? Well… maybe I do, because nobody pays me, but listen, I do it for the fame and glory as well. So pay up OK? You have until tomorrow morning and then if I don’t get enough donations, I’ll shut LL down. Don’t say you haven’t been warned!
@ 156 thats not Merlin you big fat fake!!
I’d vote for Merlin to be president userpaul :D
Ignore that dick above, it’s not me and staff from TF can verify that with my IP.
You can tell the kids have finished school now!!
Grow up and get yourself a life, I’m going to ask the staff to close this thread down now.
The real Merlin
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