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Hollywood Forces UK ISP To Block Newzbin Usenet Site

Following a hearing in London’s High Court, leading UK ISP BT will be forced to block subscriber access to Usenet indexing site Newzbin2. Under the banner of the MPA, the leading Hollywood studios successfully argued that by letting the site continue unabated their interests would be severely damaged. The decision, the first of its kind in the UK, increases the pressure on other ISPs.

As previously reported, UK ISP BT has been facing off against the major Hollywood movie studios in the High Court.

The Motion Picture Association wanted an injunction ordering BT to block its subscribers from accessing Newzbin2, a site it claims causes the industry significant losses due to unlawful movie downloading.

Today a High Court judge ruled in the MPA’s favor and ordered BT to block Newzbin2.

“In my judgment it follows that BT has actual knowledge of other persons using its service to infringe copyright: it knows that the users and operators of Newzbin2 infringe copyright on a large scale, and in particular infringe the copyrights of the Studios in large numbers of their films and television programmes,” said Justice Arnold in his ruling.

“It knows that the users of Newzbin2 include BT subscribers, and it knows those users use its service to receive infringing copies of copyright works made available to them by Newzbin2.”

Despite earlier an statement which indicated that Newzbin2′s owners would hire lawyers to fight attempts to have them blocked in the UK, the site has not been represented during the hearings.

BT described the judgment as “helpful” since it provides clarity on a “complex issue”.

“It clearly shows that rights holders need to prove their claims and convince a judge to make a court order. BT has consistently said that rights holders need to take this route. We will return to court after the summer to explain what kind of order we believe is appropriate,” the ISP said in a statement.

Newzbin2 carries no illicit content of its own, but provides so-called “structural access” to content uploaded by others to the worldwide newsgroup (Usenet) system. Features offered by the members-only subscription site include a raw search, which is very similar to any other Internet search engine and is entirely legal.

The thorn in the MPA’s side, however, is the site’s supply of NZBs. These are torrent-like files which often link to named illicit content. These NZBs, which make otherwise complicated Usenet downloading a breeze, are organized by Newzbin2′s editors into categories such as CAM, Screener, Telesync, R5 and Workprint, titles which leave little to the imagination when it comes to considering the legitimacy of their sources.

Both MPA and BT will be back in court during October to decide on the practicalities of carrying out the injunction.

Now that the MPA has been successful in this website-blocking bid, there are concerns that this phenomenon will spread to other targets. Initially other ISPs in the UK will be expected to follow suit and block Newzbin2 too, a development confirmed by the MPA this morning.

Update: The admins of Newzbin2 have published their official response to the news – read here.

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  • Pman

    heh, so it will take about 10 minutes for people to google VPNS then huh….

    • Fungus

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    • Anon

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    • VPN

      Yep and VPN access is cheap. Lots of choices – http://www.vpnsp.com

    • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

      Yeah, because the fact that pirates aren’t even willing to pay for what they enjoy suggests that they would repeatedly pay for something that had nothing to do with entertainment at all.

      • Someone

        Accounts at VPN and Seedox providers show that pirates are VERY willing to spend money, they just are NOT willing to be blatantly extorted and held to ransom by the self entitled few.

        So once again Jerk Murdoch, you are completely wrong. Something you must be getting used to by now I guess.

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

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        I’d pay for a VPN if the environment in my country suddenly got harsh and I’d still buy original content. And, PRO TIP, I’m not the only one. Obviously I’d spend [current amount spent on content] – [vpn cost] because money is finite ;)

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  • Duke

    The court was warned that most users can easily get around any block, but decided that didn’t matter. Also, this wasn’t just the MPA; they were supported by the BPI, IFPI, Publishers’ Association and Association for UK Interactive Entertainment (a computer game group). Given that it was only BT in court on the other side (no one representing the site, its users or Internet people in general) it isn’t that surprising the MPA et al. won.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      That. Still, this is a dangerous precedent. The news sites are used for a myriad of reasons, infringing uses included. What the court just did opens a huge precedent to buy whatever MAFIAA thinks “causes the industry significant losses due to unlawful movie downloading.” Next they’ll block archive.org, Public Domain, HipHop blogs, printers and whatever they can.

      The UK Govt is stepping into a very dangerous terrain.

      Oh wait, they have that digital act thing. They are morons anyways and it seems the British ppl like to take it up in the arse ;)

      Ahem, I know a few British that are completely enraged at their Govts so I guess there’s salvation for the UK.

      • Duke

        It is a massive precedent; while the judge warned that it shouldn’t be (due to very specific cases, lots of evidence and the previous trial) but yes, it will be used. They’re not even going to go for sites that cause losses; in the UK copyright infringement is actionable per se – no need to show any loss or damage; if it infringes, it’s unlawful.

        Also, this isn’t the government, this is a court (and we have very strict separation between the two here). The law used comes from the EU InfoSoc Directive, so the UK isn’t really involved at all. Sadly we can’t blame them for this.

        • Guest101

          “The law used comes from the EU InfoSoc Directive, so the UK isn’t really involved at all. Sadly we can’t blame them for this. ”

          That’s a mistake. British (and other european national) politicians love “policy laundering” stuff through the EU. You see, it’s roughly the same revolving-door in-crowd of politicians at the national and european levels, people – to pick a name you might know, people like Peter Mandelson, former European Commissioner. So, the national governments get their currently-european-level friends to pass laws that would be unpopular or completely impossible to pass nationally, then turn around and blame “those pesky meddling eurocrats, but what can we do, it’s the EU”. Seems to work particularly well with the UK public.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_laundering

        • Guest101

          “The law used comes from the EU InfoSoc Directive, so the UK isn’t really involved at all. Sadly we can’t blame them for this. ”

          That’s a mistake. British (and other european national) politicians love “policy laundering” stuff through the EU. You see, it’s roughly the same revolving-door in-crowd of politicians at the national and european levels, people – to pick a name you might know, people like Peter Mandelson, former European Commissioner. So, the national governments get their currently-european-level friends to pass laws that would be unpopular or completely impossible to pass nationally, then turn around and blame “those pesky meddling eurocrats, but what can we do, it’s the EU”. Seems to work particularly well with the UK public.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_laundering

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Indeed but even though you have separate powers I take it the ones making the crazy laws were elected by the UK citizens. Unless the political system is very different like in th US where more than half of the voters choose candidate X and the electoral college or whatever you call that shit puts candidate Y in power.

          Still, I hope you’ve seen the news yesterday where some news aggregation site was convicted for linking to the original articles at the newspapers sites? I’d guess the UK Govt needs some big slap to get back into their senses ;)

          http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110727/12544415289/uk-appeals-court-agrees-that-clicking-link-opening-website-is-infringing.shtml

      • SethoftheSea

        I think you find that the digital economy bill was passed during the “wash up period” where they rush the bill thru within hours. Many different organisations (including commercial companies) want the bill to be reviewed by an independent body and for each clause to be discussed. No one in the UK wants this bill except for the politicians who got paid to make it law. the govt won’t listen and I find it highly unlikely that net geeks in the UK are all going to meet up and protest.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Oh MAndy, how loved you must be by the UK citizens while sipping the most expensive wines in your mansion ;)

  • Guest

    BT should take their case to the European Court of Human Rights.

    • Anonmouse

      They would quite possible win if they did this too, as the EU said that internet access is a human right.

      This ruling is like saying that it is your human right to have access to clean drinking water, only if it’s bottled by this certain company and not from the ground.

      • Zzzz

        Funny you should mention that, it’s actually illegal to collect rainwater in some states in America. The water companies argued that as the rainwater would eventually run into rivers and they had rights to river water then the rain belongs to them.
        All it took then was some utterly corrupt idiot with a judges robe to agree with them, not too unlike this case I suspect.

        • Josh C

          If you’re serious, we have some really retarded people in power here Y_Y

    • Duke

      BT are only really challenging this because it is expensive for them. Plus they’d have to appeal through the Court of Appeal and Supreme Court first, which would take a couple of years and probably over £1m.

      In any case, the High Court considered human rights (at 199-201 in the judgment) and found that the copyright lobby group’s right to enforce their copyright outweighed any right to freedom of expression.

      • http://fuzzytutorials.com Richard Gailey

        It would be worth it just to say a big ‘Fuck You’ to the MPA and it’s cronies. Presides £1M is nothing to BT. The UK government is one of the most weak willed and pathetic ones out there, and it’s embarrassing to live here at times.

        [Edit] @enigmax, ignore the email I sent as I see you already have the subject covered.

    • matthew smith

      BT are the most spineless cowards EVER. THEY HATE BITTORRENT and all filesharing!! Just look how they have throttled it for years and years and claimed that they were not.

      BT are an ex government agency and are still run in that way. They have no concern for freedom and fairness. It boggles the mind why BT would have any customers in the first place!

      • gae

        True, if you use BT then you deserve what you get. They have to be one of the UK’s worst isp’s.
        Throttling torrent traffic, freely giving acs:law customer details along with crap connection and customer service – I have no idea how they ended up bieng the bigest isp in the country!

        • Anon-e-mus

          All ISPs should throttle torrent traffic so that the bandwidth can be used for more important stuffs.

      • gae

        True, if you use BT then you deserve what you get. They have to be one of the UK’s worst isp’s.
        Throttling torrent traffic, freely giving acs:law customer details along with crap connection and customer service – I have no idea how they ended up bieng the bigest isp in the country!

    • Anonymous

      I would be careful in trusting BT.

      Let us not forget that during the ACS:Law era BT stated that they “supported rights holders action to protect their copyright” and for a long time ignored the on-going public abuse. It is now clear their support was ill-based if not criminal after the judge branded ACS:Law a “copyright exploitation organization” who did their best to “avoid judicial scrutiny”.

      Now is BTs chance to learn from their mistakes and to win some redemption. It is clear that this court ruling is neither in the interest of the public nor the ISPs. So they had better damned well fight instead of bending over and taking it.

      • Observationist

        Isn’t the MPA a “copyright exploitation organization”?
        Talk about splitting hairs!

      • Observationist

        Isn’t the MPA a “copyright exploitation organization”?
        Talk about splitting hairs!

  • Guest

    “These NZBs, which make otherwise complicated Usenet downloading a breeze”: oh come on, why are you running the MPA’s line on this? Usenet downloading is easy with or without NZBs. The same usenet clients that support NZBs also support automatically joining multipart postings into easily downloadable binaries. The only added function Newzbin2 provides is some filtering and classification.

    • http://TorrentFreak.com Enigmax (Andy)

      Merely by using terms such as “multipart postings” and “downloadable binaries” it shows that you have knowledge of how Usenet works. There are thousands of Usenet users that have little to no idea and would not be able to use Newsgroups without the assistance of NZB files.

      The NZB format makes Usenet downloading more easy – that’s not the “MPA’s line”, that’s a fact :)

      • Guest

        It makes it easier (and hence more popular) but there was already very easy to use software for this before Newzbin came along. The MPA’s line in this and the original Newzbin trial was that it would have been virtually impossible without Newzbin, which was blatantly untrue.

        • Rekrul

          Trust me, to the average user, clicking a cyberlocker link on a blog, typing the captcha word and then clicking the download button is complicated. I know people who have actually needed to take notes on how to do this. Trying to explain Usenet, with multi-volume archives, Par files, Rar files, etc, you might as well be telling them how to perform brain surgery.

          The average user today can’t even organize their files without help. If they have a digital camera, I guarantee that you’ll find at least three copies of every photo on their drive because they don’t know how to move the files rather than just copying them.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          @Rek: sad but true. I’m not surprised by ppl posting comments as if Usenet or whatever is very easy to use when I know ppl that have issues when you tell them to copy a file to their desktops. Once you get the grasp of some software/gadget/whatever you may get the false impression that it’s very easy to use. It’s not. I know doctors that can perform brain surgery as if it was easier than making some fried eggs and yet using the computer seems harder to them than reaching the top of Mount Everest. If you ask them about brain surgery they’ll probably say “oh, any1 can do that, it’s easy” but if you ask about computers they’ll probably say “HOW THE FUCK DO YOU USE THIS TOOL OF THE DEVIL!”.

          heh

  • Gargamel

    It will simply be routed around in a matter of hours. Not worried.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wiredcivicex Clayton Johnson

    HideMyAss, Zend2, Proxify… Google it people.

    • Jd252

      Is there any risk in using these?

      • Anonymous

        No. But using google DNS is possibly an easier permanent solution.

        • Guest

          Why would you want to use Google DNS servers? They already know the searches you do and now they’ll know all the websites you visit (unless you use a VPN ofc).

  • Anonymous

    I think this sucks. This is only a long slippery slope into any major organization having websites blocked for almost any issue they disagree with.

    Hollywood’s abuse of the World is well known. Take the case of George Lucas against Andrew Ainsworth who is the person to made the original Star Wars stormtrooper helmets.

    George Lucas wants to protect his copyright and monopoly and has taken Andrew Ainsworth to court many times. Here is the UK George Lucas tried to ABUSE copyright law by stating that a stormtrooper helmet is an artistic statue and NOT a movie prop. The difference is 15 years copyright span for a movie prop, which has now expired, or life plus 70 years for a statue.

    To highlight how Hollywood likes to abuse the World then George Lucas was backed up by Steven Spielberg, Peter Jackson, James Cameron, Jon Landau and Brian Henson (son of Jim Henson). What can’t fight this fight on his own? All to stop the person who originally created stormtrooper helmets from making and selling more. An item I should add is valued by fans when it is seen as original.

    Well George Lucas lost his case and movie props they are with copyright that expired in 1992. Show how much valid his claim for £2 million in damages was. Andrew Ainsworth is a lucky one though when he had the conviction to fight and to afford the £700,000 in legal costs involved. Lesser people would simply have been crushed by the giant they faced and the massive legal fees.

    So what does that say when justice is often won by the person with the most money?

    And today we have a dangerous court ruling. Anyone who does not stand up against censorship, including huge court costs, will be censored on the Internet.

    I can only hope BT concludes that their system cannot handle such blocking and take the whole system offline even if their child porn filter is lost.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      I saw that thing from Lucas. At least the UK did it right once…

      Newzbin2 was created out of a challenge against the decision that closed the first site so they are somewhat in the borderline of the law, they won’t have any interest in fighting this, they can always open Newzbin3 if the best MAFIAA can do is block it.

    • Reader

      £700,000 ? I hope that George Lucas was made to pay for his defence fee :S

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        Hopefully. Still, it’s amazing he managed to afford that. Talk about bullying ;)

        • Anonymous

          He managed to afford the legal expenses quite easily.

          He began making more stormtrooper helmets when he decided to dispose of some items he just had laying around gathering dust for years. As these were original Star Wars items he decided to put them up for auction. To his surprise they sold for £600,000.

          He then had loads of people contacting him asking what other items he could supply. That is a lot after working on some of the most popular movies ever made so future legal costs were well covered.

          He then made new stormtrooper helmets using the original process as he used to make them and now sells them for about £1500 each.

          I am sure he was awarded his legal expenses back after they took him all the way to the supreme court.

    • Joe

      “So what does that say when justice is often won by the person with the most money?”

      This is how American jusice always has been and always will be done….OJ Simpson anyone.?

      What do you expect from a country ruled by the dollar.

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        Dunno but as of August 2nd they’ll be in trouble ;)

  • http://twitter.com/Lusty91a Andrew Lusty

    Cant see what they are trying to do as thsi is bypassable and can be done very quickley

    • gae

      Because as the countrys largest isp, a lot of their customers will be average internet users with little technical knowledge on how to to bypass the block. They will just see that the site is blocked and go elsewhere as opposed to lengthy processes involving additional services, setup and software.

      • Anonymous

        Doesn’t Newsbin have registration email addresses? It will take ONE email…

  • Elisa ? Knockout™

    I think bt is in their rights to not have to block any website. i mentioned the other day movie studio’s are movie studios not government entities. Anyways let’s hope bt wins.

    • Anonymous

      We should remember that when BT implemented their Cleanfeed system some wiser people claimed that this was the first step into large censorship of the Internet. BT denied this claim and said it would only be used to help protect children from abuse.

      So what does BT say now when not only will Cleanfeed be used to protect copyright but it will also hinder the distribution of millions of Creative Commons titles?

      All I would say is… The Great Firewall of the United Kingdom is about to be raised.

      • Elisa ? Knockout™

        My heart sets out a prayer. It’s a failed and flawed program it won’t help to save children that’s just something to use to make censorship sound sweet.

        The entertainment industry is filled with a bunch of con-artist.They’ll do anything to make everyone else sound bad without noticing how corrupt they are. Yeah it just doesn’t seem fair to creative commons/independent industry.

        Don’t feel bad censorship is worldwide.

        • Josh C

          As a writer and singer, I would love to be pirated like a major recording artist :3 While the major labels scream and shit themselves, I would jump up and down and send XOXOXO to whoever pirated.

        • Elisa ? Knockout™

          Welcome to the club i write aswell as dance singer and play a guitar and stuff. But my brothers the talented one.. ;)

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          “It’s a failed and flawed program it won’t help to save children that’s just something to use to make censorship sound sweet.”

          It’s actually worse than that. The blocklists implemented against, say, child pornography, are circumventable at every level by default by everyone who actually has a reason to circumvent filtering at all – i.e. the pedos running through their own darknets are already immune to all those attempts.

          The blocklists themselves, however, usually contain a lot of other sites completely unrelated to “illicit” material (set on the list due to having a webpage hacked, being reported without facts, etc) and those sites become inaccessible for the ordinary internet user.

          When every method you attempt to “save” someone actually just means “sweep this under the rug and let no one see that it’s happening” we are actually harming our chances to properly come to grips with the problem as a society.

        • Elisa ? Knockout™

          well i have no sympathy for anyone who harm children. Therefore I think they deserve far more harsh/painful punishment then just going to prison. Children are innocent. :’( ?
          However, I feel that they are using that as an escape to try and censor the web and make censorship sound like it’s a good thing. Which is totally the opposite.

  • Somone

    Doh! Doh! Doh!,

    have they forgot that internet users have ways of getting around this obstical ?

  • Zan

    why newsbin2 and not……. or …….., are other nzb sites now going to be blocked? be unfair otherwise.

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  • Anonymous

    lol, good thing there are easy ways around such trivial attempts lol.
    http://www.web-privacy.au.tc

  • anonymous

    streisand effect, newsbin traffic surges, gogo

  • Danny

    We’re on BT here at work and this really made me want to go out and buy a DVD.
    Oh wait, no it didn’t! FAIL!

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  • matthew smith

    hi all, can we please ensure that everyone spreads the ideas based on this site:

    http://farid.hajji.name/blog/2009/06/20/circumventing-internet-censorship/

    This will ensure that people in the UK are upto speed on how to get around this from day one.

    i have no affiliation with that site at all i just wanted to make sure that if i am censored i can defeat it with ease….

  • colin james

    The bypass cleanfeed all you need to do it use https:// instead of http://

    It’s as simple as adding one letter.

    • Grumpygit

      Not exactly true, that only really works if only some pages/images are blocked. In this case they want to block the entire site so will have no worries blocking HTTPS too

      • Anonymous

        Then just use for example google dns and demote them to the status of extension cord. There won’t be an IP block because that will block innocent websites and services on the same server. That is why it’s smart to be on the same server as say, a political party…

    • Anon

      To bypass cleanfeed, cancel your contract with bt and go to any other broadband provider.

    • Anon

      To bypass cleanfeed, cancel your contract with bt and go to any other broadband provider.

  • Anon

    You can always search Usenet by doing this if you can’t access this site.

    1. Go to:

    http://www.nfohump.com/

    Do a search for what you are looking for or just view the recent posts and copy the name. I would generally use the ones that look like this inside the .nfo’s name.group.info.nfo.

    2. Go to:

    https://www.binsearch.info/

    Paste in your search query minus the .nfo bit.

    3. Make your own NZB from binsearch.info.

    Just one quick tip of many out there.

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  • Hmm

    George Lucas is a helmet haaa

  • Guest

    What has always baffled me, is the people whinging about so called piracy / potential profit loss is that its probably a safe bet to say they have a sky, virgin media etc etc etc account and they watch the tv shows, films, music videos the list goes on. Yet i’m willing to bet large amounts of money they then dont go out and buy all these programmes to “compensate” (haha) the companies for not paying them the retail price.

    Imo anything thats broadcast on free to air, commercial channels…be it radio or tv is out in the wild and then fair game (hell, the aliens get to see it for free lol). So that alone would cut back on all this pointless crap.

    • Ahoy

      Are you an absolute retard? You’ve just demonstrated a hilarious ignorance of how the TV industry works.

      As a SKY/Virgin/whatever subscriber, you pay fees to the broadcaster. Your broadcaster licenses the programming from the owner at a price of anywhere from a few hundred thou for the series (if it’s new, or crap, for instance) to a couple of mill per episode (for something like Friends in its heyday).

      So the rights owners are already compensated for television broadcast because the broadcaster has paid them a huge f**king license for the content.

      Get informed before you spout shite about stuff you clearly have no clue about!!

      • Guest

        Errmm thats kinda my point…

        Its all done and payed for…which would mean you cant “steal” what you’ve already “bought” (albeit indirectly)..

        The corporations / organisations want to get you for the retail price (hence the losses they come up with), even though its been broadcast on the tv channel / radio station…that theres good odds you’re already paying for anyway.

        see what im getting at ? :)

        • Ahoy

          Sorry, but no, you still either a) don’t understand or b) don’t agree (which is totally your perogative).

          In order to pay the content owner the license for the programme, they need their subscription revenue. They need a large user base to sell ad space in their EPG, that’s how a non-government funded broadcaster works. And ultimately, you don’t get to keep a copy of the content forever. You can record it on your PVR, but they are very limited (you can’t legitimately take it everywhere with you for example – they do offer online on-demand services, some of which are even starting to appear on mobile devices at decent quality – SKY-Go is awesome if you’re a movies subscriber – but your usage of the content is LIMITED [usually by expiry date]).

          Downloading means you won’t pay a subscription to their broadcast service. You won’t count in their user base for ad sales, and they won’t make money to buy licenses to content. Licensors will stop creating content because they can’t make the money to cover the upfront costs of a production.

          Retail is a whole different area, where you pay a set fee to personally license the content for your own use (admittedly, as defined by ToCs). This where I agree there should be some change, and I think the Hargreaves recommendation on format shifting is a step in the right direction for sure. A license for digital media in this day and age should mean whatever format you choose. But downloading isn’t how you change things, it’s how laws dictated by people who either plain old don’t get it or are of the generation that will never accept it get passed and things like this happen.

          If that’s what you want, then fair enough.
          If you genuinely don’t believe you should be paying for anything, again, fair enough, but don’t expect the quality of TV shows to last. (And before some bright spark says “ITZ ALL SHITZ ANYWAY”, that’s BS and you know it. There is PLENTY of great content being produced for TV and for Hollywood; and there is plenty of demand for it as well, because people are downloading the shit out of it). And certainly don’t expect content industry to do nothing about it.

          I’ll leave you with some wise words to consider in light of this judgement,

          “I knew they wouldn’t go down without a fight. But this is different. They’ve crossed a line.”
          “With all due respect, you crossed the line first. You hammered them to the point of desperation. And in their desperation, they turned to something they didn’t fully understand.”

          Take from that what you will. And sorry for calling you a retard, I have anger management issues.

  • Tomstry

    Already a blog post about how to bypass Newzbin2 blocking in UK? Of course, the answer is… VPN. More info on: http://www.st4rts.com/2011/07/how-to-bypass-newzbin2-blocking-in-uk.html

  • Jjj

    If youre in the UK with this ISP, threaten to drop service with them if the follow through with this. Everyone else should do the same.

    • Joe

      Their response will be simple…”We are odered to by the court.”

      And you know what, its true, they did, did u read the article.

      And how long beofre the other ISP’s follo, they did BT cause they are the biggest, the rest will fall into line like dominos.

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  • Anonymous

    i could support newzbin if a portion of it were free. maybe the porn part?

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  • Goodboy

    Is there much risk in using HideMyAss, Zend2, Proxify, dns, vpn or proxy to bypass this? will your ISP notice and take action? (Yes i am completely cluesless on this mainly dns, vpn or proxy :blush5: )

    How far are we from having Rapid, FS, MU etc blocked?

    • Ghost Viking

      The verdict doesn’t say that BT needs to report users going around their blocking of the site. Only that they have to block it. Till they get forced to monitor your traffic and report the findings you don’t have any problems with using hidemyass etc to get around the ban.
      And should they get forced to be internet-police then we’re all fucked.

    • gae

      Nothing the court has said makes it in any was a crime to continue to access the site or to bypass the BT block, there is nothing mentioned in any way about punishing customers if they bypass the block, there are no requirements for BT to monitor users access to the site (which would be costly to BT) and the website remains legal to use so go right ahead and use whatever methods you wish to gain access providing they do not break your contract terms.

      Also I would think that they will have a much harder time trying to block the other sites you mention as they all have substantial legitimate uses and have a much stronger argument for this than newzbin did.

      • Goodboy

        I guess the biggest problem in the long run might be the sites that list the links, ie divturka, tehPARADOX might be blocked

  • Goodboy

    Is there much risk in using HideMyAss, Zend2, Proxify, dns, vpn or proxy to bypass this? will your ISP notice and take action? (Yes i am completely cluesless on this mainly dns, vpn or proxy :blush5: )

    How far are we from having Rapid, FS, MU etc blocked?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LNZGZO3FSDP3QQXDKZF3TAQE3Q Wsxc Su

    I am a beautiful woman, divorced and I love good educated man…..rich romance is my dream… so I joined —- Mil’cU’pid.C ó M—–it’s where to- connect with beautiful and su?cessf? but fell out of it, then it wasn’t love you were in. There are no ‘exit’ signs in lovel people! Maybe you wanna ch’eck it out or tell your friends.
    ——— Now that the MPA has been successful in this website-blocking bid, there are concerns that this phenomenon will spread to other targets. Initially other ISPs in the UK will be expected to follow suit and block Newzbin2 too

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LNZGZO3FSDP3QQXDKZF3TAQE3Q Wsxc Su

    I am a beautiful woman, divorced and I love good educated man…..rich romance is my dream… so I joined —- Mil’cU’pid.C ó M—–it’s where to- connect with beautiful and su?cessf? but fell out of it, then it wasn’t love you were in. There are no ‘exit’ signs in lovel people! Maybe you wanna ch’eck it out or tell your friends.
    ——— Now that the MPA has been successful in this website-blocking bid, there are concerns that this phenomenon will spread to other targets. Initially other ISPs in the UK will be expected to follow suit and block Newzbin2 too

  • Guest

    All these corporate parasites and lawers are a pack of fools. They are playing with fire. They may not have noticed but it is clear that a world wide revolution is coming. The social contract is broken. All these CEO, presidents, VP, directors, lawyers and judges are going to end up with their heads on pics. The law they are currently destroying will not be there to protect them.

  • gae

    Was going to go and see transformers 3 this weekend… but now I will download it instead as that is about the only way I am able to protest this effectively.

    And for the record, yes you can put that down as 2 lost ticket sales to piracy.

    • Pride

      That’s not your only way to protest this. You could… you know… actually protest. Like, try to start a full protest. Why not do that?

      • gae

        Unfortuately the truth is I have neither the time, contacts or resources to do such a thing.

    • Anonymous

      No, 2 lost ticket sales to anti-piracy.

      • Guest123

        This brings back the memories of The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3, where that criminal claimed that he wasn’t responsible for shooting the innocent people, the state was.

        Good movie.

  • gae

    Was going to go and see transformers 3 this weekend… but now I will download it instead as that is about the only way I am able to protest this effectively.

    And for the record, yes you can put that down as 2 lost ticket sales to piracy.

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  • Chez

    no problem with this, just run your own indexer, simplez…

    http://www.newznab.com/

  • Chez

    no problem with this, just run your own indexer, simplez…

    http://www.newznab.com/

  • Gg

    to be honest im not really totally sure how the DNS system works

    But if BT blocks the domain name of newzbin, couldnt BT subscribers just change their dns to like googles or openDNS?

    and always change my ISP default DNS servers, every little bit helps to stop your ISP from spying

    and if BT blocks IP, all Newzbin has to do is change ip

  • Gg

    to be honest im not really totally sure how the DNS system works

    But if BT blocks the domain name of newzbin, couldnt BT subscribers just change their dns to like googles or openDNS?

    and always change my ISP default DNS servers, every little bit helps to stop your ISP from spying

    and if BT blocks IP, all Newzbin has to do is change ip

    • Anonymous

      Yes, all they need is for example google dns. Or maybe mafiaa fire if they pick this up. And there are 100.000 other options.

  • pe0n

    Just watched the bbc news report, and of course they completely leave out that it is optional to pay, and that the site hosts no actual illegal content o_o impartial my arse.

  • pe0n

    Just watched the bbc news report, and of course they completely leave out that it is optional to pay, and that the site hosts no actual illegal content o_o impartial my arse.

    • Home

      its not optional.
      If u dont pay newzbin, u dont search.

      its not much like 5 bucks for 3 months or something like that

  • Johnmartin36

    AFAIAA the IWF system used by BT blocks IP and/or url. I do not think that circumvention by alternate DNS resolution is a solution. But assuming that browsing the Newzbin site is not resource hungry, and NZB files are not huge, I can see that it is a doddle to circumvent any blocking of that nature.

    I suspect that it might be possible using a lot of the free on-line proxy and redirection tools, sites, etc.

    My cynical prediction is that by the time the case returns to court in October, that a type of Streisland effect will have taken place, and the applicants will have a shopping list of hundreds or thousands of sites and on-line resources that they ould like to have blocked.

    I think that in the long run, the only way to prevent on-line copyright infringement is to close down the internet altogether. That is not going to happen – rights owners might be big but they are not that big. The question is how far this goes with indirect futile gestures before the legislature and judiciary say enough is enough.

  • Effra

    i pay a lot of money to BT every month £46 and get a BRILLIANT SERVICE. yes i am throttled from 5 10pm. so my machines run overnight and stuff in done without hindering family surfing.

    only bt traffic is throttledand on 8meg, thats no problem, learn to use your computers and shut down all those pesky task bar shits, you might get in to facebook then

    i have been using bt for 15 years, i have been a prolific user of utorrent for 8 years… lets say an average of 4Gb per night for 7 years…. i just had to buy two 2Tb drives to store more.

    i use peer guardian, i know how to set a computer. i have never had a letter but i do have 12 Tb of data, 90% od which was delivered by BT….

    sorry BT lost they are a great ISP

  • Foff

    Ok let’s review history. Napster was created then shut down what happened? After Napster other filesharing programs were born like kazaa, limewire etc. Then what happened? They were shut down. About this time torrents were invented. Indexing sites in the US were shut down. What happened? The pirate bay. Offshore indexers. Torrents are attacked and pay or else schemes are launched what happened? As torrents and torrent sites started to come under attack cyber lockers were invented. During this whole time news sites were left mostly untouched. Most releases from groups were originally done via newsgroups as releasing this way is virtually untraceable. Newsgroups stayed under the radar because of they require a special knowledge to use. Along comes newsgroup indexing sites and nzb files that made it much easier to find all the parts of file. Then suddenly they are not under the radar and are being attacked. So what comes next?

    I don’t know but I do know that no attempts to date to slow down sharing have succeeded. In fact with increasing hard disk sizes and increased band with sharing is gaining momentum and is on the increase. File sharing probably accounts for 75% of the internet traffic at any given time. Think about what takes bandwith. Surfing the net very little, streaming a little more but not much because in total there is not that much material available to stream. The rest is business uses and file sharing. Only a very few businesses are that bandwith intensive so again that means the lions share is file sharing. Without file sharing we could almost go back to dial up and $10 a month accounts. Something Isp’s would not like.

    There are those that like to own stuff and will buy a DVD. Then there are others that are the check it out of the library type. This type doesn’t care about ownership or collectability all they want is to enjoy the material. The internet is like a giant electronic library. I have no desire to buy and own but I want to see or hear or read. To me downloading something is no different then if I were to go to the library and check it out. In fact I have see large collections of classical music posted on the internet that probably were ripped from disks borrowed from some library. The point is all you pro copyright a-holes need to realize that your claims are pure bs and that virtually no sales are lost to filesharing and in fact some filesharing may lead to purchases or future purchases.

    The point of this is is that the blocking strategy will backfire one way or another. The time money and effort spent on efforts like this and other’s like it are a complete waste of effort. Not a single sale is being saved as a result of this or any efforts the pro copyright orgs have made to date. They doing nothing more then trying to justify their existence while claiming to but never actually helping those they purport to be helping.

  • Notme

    Hollywood will burn again.

  • Guest

    “What the court just did opens a huge precedent”

    What the court just did is discredit the court and the justice system a lot more. So now we have the following situation:

    -The economy is collapsing world wide. People are made and desperate.
    -Many citizen are now fully awake and well award of the mortal danger posed by corporatism.

    The result will be a coming insurrection during which a lot of corporate heads will fall.

    We have internet keeping record of all the crap these corporate parasites, lawyers and corrupted gov representatives are doing with their name on it.

    What a pack of fool!

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  • Payback

    so i get a seed box that then connects to ……or use a friends pc…or i use anyones pc regardless of asking

  • Anonymous

    I bet you that if they some how found a way to stop piracy, then they would be making less money because they won’t get a chance to sue whoever they want for piracy…

  • Lee

    How to set up your own proxy

    This tutorial will assume your running the Latest Edition of Firefox but this does work in IE as well but IE sucks.

    First what we want to do is let’s see what your IP address is so this way when we go through a proxy we can see my instructions are working.

    In Firefox type in or copy and paste: http://www.whatsmyip.org/ So now you can see what your real IP address is. Now open a new tab crt+t or a new Firefox window. Type in this address: http://www.digitalcybersoft.co… Now where it says Click here to get a list of Free Anonymous HTTP Proxies checked, yes click where it says click here. Where it says Proxies By Port: ALL 80 81 1080 3128 8000 8080 click on 8080 now you can experiment from this list whatever proxies you want from whatever port you want but for the sake of this tutorial click on 8080.

    Right let’s pick a proxy, I’ll pick 222.76.210.8:8080 Ok so there are only two things were going to look at with this number firstly this IP address 222.76.210.8 and secondly this port 8080 you never ever use the colon : it’s just there to separate the IP address from the port number.

    Now at the top of Firefox where it says Tools click on that then click on Options then click on Advanced then click on the Network Tab then click on the Settings Tab, now you should have a windows with four option that say, No proxy, Auto-detect, Use system, Manual proxy ok click on Manual proxy now where it says Http Proxy: put the proxy IP number 222.76.210.8 and where it says port put the port number 8080, where it says Use this proxy server for all protocols click on that.

    That’s it done click ok on all the boxes and go back to: http://www.whatsmyip.org/ You should see that your new IP is: 222.76.210.8 most of the proxies don’t list where they are located the easiest way to find out is open up Google and it will display the language of where that IP address is.

    Now if for any reason your connection is very slow or you can’t connect it may be because the proxy is down simply go back to the website and try another until you have a list of proxies that work great for you.

    EASY!!

    The second and also third way and by for the most secure way that uses encryption technology is to start using http://www.torproject.org/ you have to download there free software but it’s very good. I recommend.

    The third way and also very very good is to start using http://www.i2p2.de/ for downloading and sharing stuff anonymously.

    Well that’s it boys and girls I hope that teaches you all that masking your IP is totally free totally easy and you don’t need any software other than your web browser.

    Oh remember that it’s easy to forget that you left your proxy running and not turn it off so don’t say I didn’t warn you if you start passing online passwords through a proxy and someone get’s into your account be safe.

    =====NOTE====NOTE====

    Even though you go through a proxy be sure you can’t still be traced with Java please disable Java by going to tools then options then content at the top of your Firefox browser.

    Even though you can see your IP has changed on whatsmyip.org it is still possible for a website to find where you are through your web browser via Java. DISABLE IT. if you really need it for a site turn it back on.
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  • Lee

    How to set up your own proxy

    This tutorial will assume your running the Latest Edition of Firefox but this does work in IE as well but IE sucks.

    First what we want to do is let’s see what your IP address is so this way when we go through a proxy we can see my instructions are working.

    In Firefox type in or copy and paste: http://www.whatsmyip.org/ So now you can see what your real IP address is. Now open a new tab crt+t or a new Firefox window. Type in this address: http://www.digitalcybersoft.co… Now where it says Click here to get a list of Free Anonymous HTTP Proxies checked, yes click where it says click here. Where it says Proxies By Port: ALL 80 81 1080 3128 8000 8080 click on 8080 now you can experiment from this list whatever proxies you want from whatever port you want but for the sake of this tutorial click on 8080.

    Right let’s pick a proxy, I’ll pick 222.76.210.8:8080 Ok so there are only two things were going to look at with this number firstly this IP address 222.76.210.8 and secondly this port 8080 you never ever use the colon : it’s just there to separate the IP address from the port number.

    Now at the top of Firefox where it says Tools click on that then click on Options then click on Advanced then click on the Network Tab then click on the Settings Tab, now you should have a windows with four option that say, No proxy, Auto-detect, Use system, Manual proxy ok click on Manual proxy now where it says Http Proxy: put the proxy IP number 222.76.210.8 and where it says port put the port number 8080, where it says Use this proxy server for all protocols click on that.

    That’s it done click ok on all the boxes and go back to: http://www.whatsmyip.org/ You should see that your new IP is: 222.76.210.8 most of the proxies don’t list where they are located the easiest way to find out is open up Google and it will display the language of where that IP address is.

    Now if for any reason your connection is very slow or you can’t connect it may be because the proxy is down simply go back to the website and try another until you have a list of proxies that work great for you.

    EASY!!

    The second and also third way and by for the most secure way that uses encryption technology is to start using http://www.torproject.org/ you have to download there free software but it’s very good. I recommend.

    The third way and also very very good is to start using http://www.i2p2.de/ for downloading and sharing stuff anonymously.

    Well that’s it boys and girls I hope that teaches you all that masking your IP is totally free totally easy and you don’t need any software other than your web browser.

    Oh remember that it’s easy to forget that you left your proxy running and not turn it off so don’t say I didn’t warn you if you start passing online passwords through a proxy and someone get’s into your account be safe.

    =====NOTE====NOTE====

    Even though you go through a proxy be sure you can’t still be traced with Java please disable Java by going to tools then options then content at the top of your Firefox browser.

    Even though you can see your IP has changed on whatsmyip.org it is still possible for a website to find where you are through your web browser via Java. DISABLE IT. if you really need it for a site turn it back on.
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  • Wrath of the Tyrant

    Usenet is dead. Long live the Usenet.

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  • Anonymous

    BT have been filtering the net for quite some time and its been left alone as the sites are undesirable to all but the scum of the earth.

    If they try using it to filter stuff on a commercial basis they will find the whole system gets taken down.

    @BT if you want to keep protecting your subscribers from kiddy fiddlers don’t try abusing this tech or it will be broken.

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  • Guest

    The ORG submitted an expert witness report to the Judicial Review of the DEA. Part of that report expresses the opinion that blocking websites (which is in truth trivial to evade, no matter what a High Court Judge thinks) will bring evasion techniques into everyday use and undermine any purpose that the IWF filtering serves.

    The relevant text is as follows:

    It is sometimes suggested that one way of dealing with unlawful file sharing is to block all of the Internet traffic associated with it, and in particular to block any access to websites which are involved in the stages prior to the actual file transfer. It is usual to point at the supposed success of the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) blocking list for child sexual abuse image websites. The comparison is flawed – and in any case the blocking of IWF sites is trivial to evade. It is my view that the main impact of any attempt to use blocking systems to prevent unlawful file sharing would be to bring evasion techniques into everyday parlance, and in the process the very limited impact of
    the IWF initiative would be entirely undermined.

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