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Hotfile Files To Dismiss In Pivotal MPAA vs Cyberlocker Lawsuit

As the entertainment industries eye the apparent emerging threat of so-called cyberlocker online storage sites, it was inevitable that at some point they would pick a fight with one of them. That unlucky target is Florida-based Hotfile and although it has chosen to settle lawsuits in the past, the company appears to be standing strong and has filed a motion to dismiss.

hotfile“Plaintiffs’ (the Studios) Complaint alleges that Hotfile, a web-hosting service, and Mr Titov in his capacity as the ‘guiding spirit’ of Hotfile, are liable for direct and indirect copyright infringement,” begins Hotfile in its recently filed motion to dismiss an MPAA-initiated lawsuit.

“Though long on hyperbole, the Studios’ factual allegations fall far short of the legal mark. They fail to state any claims for copyright infringement upon which relief can be granted and should accordingly be dismissed,” adds the 22-page document.

As previously reported, having apparently overlooked powerful market leaders such as RapidShare and MegaUpload, earlier this year Disney, Twentieth Century Fox, Universal, Columbia and Warner filed a lawsuit against Hotfile, making the Florida-based company the reluctant guinea pig for testing the MPAA’s fledgling anti-cyberlocker legal strategies.

“In less than two years, Hotfile has become one of the 100 most trafficked sites in the world,” said the MPAA when announcing its lawsuit against the company. “That is a direct result of the massive digital theft that Hotfile promotes.”

The MPAA went on to state that Hotfile’s business model relies on the company encouraging its users to upload “illegal copies of motion pictures and TV shows to its servers”, something Hotfile denies.

As speculated earlier by HR reporter Eriq Gardner, Hotfile was probably carefully chosen as a target, not least because it uses the United States for its operational base but because, notably, it has chosen to settle rather than fight earlier lawsuits. This time, however, Hotfile does not appear to be backing down.

In its motion to dismiss dated March 31st, Hotfile denies the studios’ first claim of direct infringement. The company says that since the studios’ allegations are based around Hotfile allegedly facilitating the infringements of their users, this “could only support a claim – if any exists – for secondary infringement.”

On the issue of secondary infringement, Hotfile says the studios’ claim is deficient.

“The Studios do not allege the requisite clear expression or affirmative steps showing that Hotfile has the specific intent to promote infringement,” the company states.

‘Clear expression’ in this instance is a reference to existing case law involving three other file-sharing type services after they were previously deemed to have encouraged or approved of infringement.

In Columbia Pictures v Fung (MPAA v Isohunt), Hotfile quote site admin Gary Fung as saying “they accuse us for [sic] thieves, and they r [sic] right.” In Arista Records v Usenet.com – “Usenet is full of Music and Movies so get your pirate on!” and other more general comments from Arista Records v Lime Group and MGM Studios v Grokster. Hotfile say no such claims have been directed at them.

In response to the studios’ claim that Hotfile is guilty of contributory infringement, the company points firmly back in time to 1984′s Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc., aka the Betamax case, again stopping off at 2005′s MGM Studios, Inc. v. Grokster, Ltd on the way.

Claims that Hotfile had knowledge of infringement on its systems “effectively rehashes the argument that they lost in the Supreme Court [in the Sony case] in an attempt to stop technological advances in copying equipment.” Furthermore, the 2005 Grokster case only reaffirmed the legality of products that have “substantial non-infringing users”, say Hotfile.

While noting that it is fully DMCA compliant (and that the studios use its notice and takedown services), Hotfile goes on to refute the claims of vicarious liability on the basis that the studios failed to show that the file-hoster had the “practical ability” to “supervise or police infringement” among the millions of files that it hosts.

Interestingly, in contrast to previous cases involving both Grokster, isoHunt and LimeWire (who all had on-site ‘search box’ facilities, a fact used against them by the plaintiffs), in the studios’ case against Hotfile the lack of a search box is used to support a claim of inducement.

“Hotfile does not organize, categorize or otherwise participate in user selection of files to host. Hotfile provides the same basic service as the hundreds, if not thousands, of other bona fide web hosting services that are critical and necessary to enable the full potential of the Internet,” the company states.

“Realizing that the uninterrupted line of active inducement cases all involved sites with built in search capability, the Studios try to twist the absence of a search box into ‘concealment’. Thus, according to the Studios, web hosts are damned if they allow search (as ‘active inducers’) and are damned (as ‘concealers’) if they don’t.”

Everyone involved in a US-based online hosting business will be watching this case unfold with interest. The outcome will shape their future operations and even has the potential to alter the file-sharing landscape.

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  • http://profiles.google.com/rav3nlabs Toshko Andreev

    Go Hotfile!

  • Faiz4rafi

    this is crazy news.MPAA cant accept the defeat,too egoistic i guess. Hope some Judge someday spanks ass well so they finally give up. Fuck MPAA, TPB Jai Ho.

    • Ninja

      I assumed your comment as a sweet bitter sarcasm and hit the like button. If it’s not the case you should seriously go find a psychiatrist.

  • Fieldsr6

    How can the MPAA justify trying to shut down legitimate businesses (or an entire industry if they could) just because they cant keep tabs on their product anymore?

    • Anonymous

      Because they can afford to make laws against legitimate businesses (or an entire industry)…

      • http://www.inkfarm.com Inkfarmer

        I wonder how much longer they can afford such activities. Their profits continue to dwindle at the same time that they’re losing a lot of these lawsuits.

        • Ninja

          Their profits are running downhill (and pls provide evidence) because they are incompetent. Their revenue have been going steady up for a while now and I can only assume that these claimed profit losses are due to their enforcement of anti-piracy activities that yield no results.

        • http://www.inkfarm.com Inkfarmer

          Record industry revenue? It has been on precipitous decline for 10 years, perhaps in part due to incompentency, but I think we all know its demise is imminent, regardless. http://www.businessinsider.com/these-charts-explain-the-real-death-of-the-music-industry-2011-2

      • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

        … using the money WE gave them in the first place, when we bought their movies, DVD’s, CD’s, “official” merchandise, etc.

        Fucking sick. Isn’t it?

    • Anonymous

      Right now they are the one’s damaging legit US business and costing jobs.

  • Anonymous

    Hotfile is 100% correct here. I mean undeniably correct. I just wonder if the MPAA/RIAA paid judges will even care enough to make it LOOK like they’re “un-biased”…

  • Anonymous

    Isnt it about time someone take those losers at the MPAA out at the knees? Seriously. Enough is enough.

    being-anon.int.tc

  • Gdsfsdf

    FUCK THE MPAA! I will never in my fucking life, buy shit that’s associated with them

  • Quest

    Maybe DDOS mpaa and riaa now on :p

    • http://twitter.com/K1rkpad Dylan Kirkpatrick

      Nah, Anon is going to waste their time DDos’ing Sony for a reason they themselves don’t understand.

  • Anonymous

    As long as Hotfiles follow the DMCA rules then they are protected by law from such claims.

    So the only result is… You lose MPAA, go away!

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Given the recent TF story on how the US Courts system has brought itself into disrepute because their Courts are increasingly being populated by retired MAFIAA workers/lobbyists, then deciding on cases involving the MAFIAA, I’m not as confident as you.

      It’s getting to the stage where we need to look under the Judges bench to see how worn out their fascist jackboots are.

  • a person

    Why dont these mpaa people do something useful with their lives instead of ruining the few short years we live on this planet. stop trying to ruin the fun of the internet. people only want to be happy entertainment fun. please go away and stop being so grumpy all the time

    • Anonymous

      They care as little about you as you are about people in Africa.

      • Bob

        Whats Africa got to do with it?…..You twat…..The whole country should be in a zoo.

        • sherboil

          say that again?.

        • Bob

          Why?……Are you hard of hearing?….or just cant read?

        • Ninja

          I’m astonished at your comment. More than I was with the completely useless association of Africa in the post before yours.

  • Gae

    Hotfile seems to have a good defence. I guess the outcome now will depend on how much and how many people the studios can pay off and how many inacurate studies they can finance.

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  • Foff

    It seems filesonic just blocked us ip’s This sucks I have been using cyberlockers a lot since getting disconnected twice by my isp for torrenting. Hotfile now deletes stuff faster than f#ck so people have stopped using them. I was using filesonic and now out of the blue they block the us. I guess I will have to get a good proxy

  • Joshlondon1

    So what happens to the Liberty Media Holdings vs Hotfile, PayPal and the Does? According to court documents, they are in settlement talks. Do they give up the identities of the uploaders to make it all go away? Why would Liberty settle if they can just get those IP address via the courts anyway? Not sure I understand why Hotfile would settle with them. Just a delaying tactic? The filing says there is no issue with preserving evidence so presumably they have already identified the uploaders – although Hotfile insists that they did not keep any downloader IPs until after the Disney suit was filed and tons of premium accounts subsequently deleted.

    • guest

      If Hotfile were to give LMH the uploaders identities outside of a court order to do so, wouldn’t that completely devastate their business? Who in their right mind would host even LEGAL files there if sue-happy content providers can just demand identities and get them with no fight?

      • Anonymous

        I imagine that people hosting legal files wouldn’t care much. Most of the Internet users I know don’t take special precautions to keep their identity secret or hidden.

        Just look at the success of place like Facebook and Twitter for examples.

      • Tammy

        unfortunately there are dumb people that use serviced that give up their info . chatango reports ip’s and content, adf.ly has turned my legal links to the authorites, but still peple use them. Makes no sense but people are dumb.

  • internet jerk

    Im so sick of these people going on about ddos. Sure it was a good start and got attention but come on, ratchet it up.

  • Lamb Bhuna

    Cyberlockers? What are they then? It seems to me like they offer the same service as Amazon, Apple, Google et al who call their offerings ‘cloud storage’.

    So where’s the difference exactly, and how are smaller guys like Hotfile culpable for what users choose to store in their space if the big-name players aren’t? I thought the safe-harbour provisions of the DMCA (complying with legit takedown requests) protected them from these kinds of liability suits?

  • Glowerous

    Thus, according to the Studios, web hosts are damned if they allow search (as ‘active inducers’) and are damned (as ‘concealers’) if they don’t.

    Google is damned….damned Google! Why havn’t they been damned???

    Too big a fish I guess. Too rich. Too much legal support. Too damned powerful. Too much for the MPAA who only pick on the little man….. Gobshites!

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      No!!! Not at all.

      The guys at Google are quite happy to play this game with the MPAA, and MAFIAA by censoring unnecessarily because the end result is Google thinks it will gain more traffic and more revenue when the smaller guys in competition with them are taken out by the MAFIAA court cases.

      For example, try posting to Google’s Youtube 3 different short clips from three different TV shows with different studios, and you’ll be banned automatically for “alleged” infingement of copywrong whether it’s fair use or not.

      Google can go fuck themselves.

  • Anonymous

    MPAA cant face defeat.. Just Go Away!

    “We help Americans find jobs, prosperity and explore Asia.”
    For details, visit http://www.pathtoasia.com

  • Anonymous

    MPAA cant face defeat.. Just Go Away!

    “We help Americans find jobs, prosperity and explore Asia.”
    For details, visit http://www.pathtoasia.com

  • I AM A LAWYER

    How can they be accused of inducement? Their Intellectual Property Policy is quite clear about their DMCA takedown obligations and appears in a prominent link FROM THEIR FRONT PAGE alongside a checkbox whereby an uploader agrees to abide by such policy to not upload infringing material.

    A brief snip from the intro of the policy itself:

    “HOTFILE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY POLICY
    HOTFILE COPYRIGHT AND DMCA POLICY
    HotFile is a service provider under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, 17 U.S.C. section 512 (“DMCA”). HotFile has adopted the following policy concerning copyright infringement in accordance with the DMCA and copyright law. Hotfile will respond promptly to claims of copyright infringement reported to its designated copyright agent. It is Hotfile’s policy to: (1) accommodate and not interfere with standard technical measures (as defined by the DMCA) used to identify and protect copyrighted works; (2) disable access to or remove content that it believes in good faith may infringe the copyrights of third parties; and (3) discontinue service to users who repeatedly make such content available or otherwise violate HotFile’s Terms of Service. Please do not abuse the HotFile service by using it to distribute materials to which you do not have the rights”

    Found here: http://hotfile.com/ippolicy.html

    You can’t get much clearer than that when it comes to stating you’re NOT promoting, encouraging or inducing copyright infringement.

    The MAFIAA are only going after Hotfile because they’re smaller fry and they see this as an easy way to set precedent which can later be used to go after the bigger fish.

    • sherboil

      haha…I think you have to read that page with a *wink* *wink* at the end.If all of that stuff were true hotfile would be useless.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah so useless. We know you can’t share documents, pictures, or NON-COPYRIGHTED things with the world at large on those cyberlockers. /s

        Please. Either get informed or don’t speak. There are plenty of legit uses.

      • Anonymous

        I guess the same is true of Amazon and Google’s services then eh?

        Pot. Kettle. Black.

      • Ninja

        Then we might argue that MAFIAA would make many ppl lose their jobs if they get their way. O wait, piracy is the thing chopping jobs away…. Derp.

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      That tactic of going after the smaller, weaker guy in the hope of gaining a Court victory to make usable case law is also tried worldwide.

      Look at the 2 Admins in the UK-based Filesoup case (which they won by the MAFIAA/FACT being thrown out of Court lol) that was reported here at TF less than a month ago. It was a fucking travesty of a case, buy their computer equipment was returned totally trashed and unusable. And because they’re “small fry” who cannot afford to defend themselves against these vicious attacks, it’s unlikely justice will be done – let alone seen to be done.

      But that’s how the big-boy bullies always work. They pick on the weakest who can least defend themselves. It’s fucking sick.

      • Peter

        they are not called mafiaa for nothing mafiaa.org explains it their site. riaa and mpaa = mafiaa see for yourself. They flaunt their mafiaa logo.

  • Herbert

    if Hotfile wins this case, how many appeals will they fight? the ‘industries’ will just keep going back to court until they get the verdict they want. i think it is time to just give the internet to those ‘industries’, say f**k it! and start to use the old methods once again, when the stalls were on the street corners flogging bootleg tapes etc. as long as the buying of legit stuff from stores stops at the same time, perhaps then they’ll see how much they CAN lose!

    • Agedinsoul

      “i think it is time to just give the internet to those ‘industries’, say f**k it!”

      never! never let the news discourage you and adopting a defeatist attitude. True, these media corporations create a huge buzz using their “methods” but it’s not like they’re all over the place – they just need you to believe that, simple as that.

      Give up the “internet”? – pretty insane this claim. I think there are times when people outta know when it’s time to fight for something – usually it’s pretty difficult to mobilize and fight for a same cause; mostly because we live in different parts and have to deal with different problems. But the internet? Doesn’t matter anymore where you live (except for those yet not having access…).

      I think we should start by “filesharing” the hell out of this place, spreading the word, i.e. not only sharing files among people who know how to do that, but also showing your neighbors, friends, enemies and so on how to share files.

      But sure, you’re saying using the old methods again – only with a vengeance ;) Organize file-sharing conventions, only label them something like “Convention: Discovery” or CD ;) Let people bring in their ext hard drives and share files without having to go through the internet – plus, it would give people an opportunity to interact face to face; must feel pretty cool to see that no matter what age, ethnicity, gender etc, people just share – utopia, ey ;)

      No but seriously, don’t say something like “giving up the internet”, that’s just insane. I tend to agree with some who said that “privacy” and “people” are a bit on oxymoronic (stress the word as you please) grounds given the fact that x hundred millions are using facebook or twitter and that’s not likely to change soon…but give it some time, the very moment something bad happens people will consider changing their attitude. Just look at Japan and the power plant – suddenly people all over the world feel uneasy with having power plants, even those countries that are very unlikely to get hit by a tsunami.

      Well, maybe one day a “cyber tsunami” will hit….

  • Anonymous

    Why do YOU not use Usenet?
    It’s a way of downloading, that don’t rely on peer to peer connection, but where everything you download is gathered from massive data centers. With Usenet you will always download at full speed. It might be hard to believe, but Usenet will always use your whole bandwidth, so if you have a Internet speed of 12Mbps, you will download with the same speed.

    If you’re interested in trying Usenet, visit http://www.usenetguides.com for more information.

    • Borderliner

      Unless you happen to be using an ISP which carries *.binary newsgroups, or actually take part in any of the others, you’ll be paying for pirated materials. Some people find it unethical. Those are the same people who don’t buy a VIP status on private BT sites, live with free cyberlocker accounts and don’t rent a seedbox.
      I know, I know, but there really are suck people out there. God may have mercy on their souls…

      • Anonymous

        …or they simply don’t have money to waste on fecking Usenet. A lot of people are still trying just to keep a house and car :/

        • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

          Poor people should be out working anyways, not enjoying rich people luxuries ie: media.

          Anyways, you’re paying for access and upkeep of the service, not the files on there, that’s like saying paying for an internet connection is paying for pirated stuff.

    • Borderliner

      Unless you happen to be using an ISP which carries *.binary newsgroups, or actually take part in any of the others, you’ll be paying for pirated materials. Some people find it unethical. Those are the same people who don’t buy a VIP status on private BT sites, live with free cyberlocker accounts and don’t rent a seedbox.
      I know, I know, but there really are suck people out there. God may have mercy on their souls…

  • Dimson

    ????????? ?????? ?????

  • http://www.patenttrademarklitigation.com/index.html Trademark Litigation

    Ever since the Supreme Court’s Grokster decision, in which it made up a non-legislative “inducement” standard for copyright infringement (a standard, it should be noted, that Congress had a chance to put into law, but declined), the entertainment industry has tried to expand what “inducement” actually means. In the entertainment industry’s general definition, it appears to mean “anything we don’t like” or “anything that challenges our existing legacy business models.” Case in point: cyberlockers. The MPAA has been screaming about “cyberlockers” as this new horrible piracy scheme for a couple years now, ignoring (of course) that cyberlockers serve important and useful legitimate functions in allowing people to share large legal digital files. Like many people, I’ve used cyberlockers to share PowerPoint presentations, photos and videos I’ve taken. They’re incredibly useful and have significant non-infringing purposes.

  • Whatever

    “Interestingly, in contrast to previous cases involving both Grokster, isoHunt and LimeWire (who all had on-site ‘search box’ facilities, a fact used against them by the plaintiffs), in the studios’ case against Hotfile the lack of a search box is used to support a claim of inducement.”

    “The damned if you do and damned if you don’t” issue that already exists for moderating a site.

    The MAFIAA will do anything, including contradicting itself to get their way. This is the way of those that don’t actually defend any principles or morals. There is no difference between them and a con artist saying anything to trick you (more resources and less accountability ofcourse for the MAFIAA). If this is made clear in every court in the world at every new MAFIAA case then with uncorrupted “intelligent” judges the MAFIAA would lose every case.

    @TF It seemed the comment system wasn’t working for a while ?

  • CyberMania.org

    duno why the fuck they love to loose time and money like that for piracy,there are other important problems that they could solve instead just my 2 cents

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