How To Bypass Comcast’s BitTorrent Throttling

Written by Ernesto on October 21, 2007 

Back in August we reported that Comcast was limiting BitTorrent traffic. Comcast denied our allegations, even though we had some pretty solid evidence. However, a recent test by Associated Press confirmed what we have been reporting all along. The million dollar question remains, can Comcast subscribers get around this, and more importantly, how?

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How To Bypass Comcast's BitTorrent ThrottlingComcast is using an application from the broadband management company Sandvine to throttle BitTorrent traffic. It breaks every (seed) connection with new peers after a few seconds if it’s not a Comcast user inside your community boundary. According to some Comcast technicians, who were brave enough to tell the truth, these Sandvine boxes are installed at the cable modem termination system. As a result, it is virtually impossible to seed a file, especially in small swarms without any neighboring Comcast users.

The good news is that there are several ways to fight back and get BitTorrent up and running again. Robb Topolski, a networking and protocol expert summed up some of the workarounds that reportedly solve the throttling issues.

What is working

1. Quite a few Comcast users report that forcing protocol header encryption completely eliminates the problems. This is the easiest solution since most BitTorrent clients support encryption. Please note that simply enabling encryption is not enough, it has to be forced. More details on how to do this can be found over here.

2. Another successfully workaround is to run BitTorrent over encrypted tunnels such as SSH or VPN. BitTorrent over SSH works, but it will cripple the servers of the SSH providers if you plan to use it permanently. A VPN service such as Relakks or VPNTunnel is a better option, and it is worth a few bucks.

3. Comcast prevents seeding, if you’re on a private tracker, and want to share as much as possible, an easy solution is to lower your download rate. When downloading, make sure that you have met your uploading goal by the time that the download completes. The easiest way to accomplish this is to set a download rate slower than the uploading rate. This of course is not an optimal solution because your download will never be faster than you upload speed.

4. One of the best options, if possible, is to switch to another ISP.

What is not working

1. Some people suggested that setting your firewall to drop RST packets could be effective, however, this is not the case. The RST-messages Comcast sends go in both directions, ignoring the RST on only one side creates a useless half-open connection.

2. According to most reports, enabling the Lazy Bitfield option in your BitTorrent client doesn’t solve the problem either

3. Reporting the issue to Technical Support. No explanation needed here.

4. Grab a hammer, visit the Comcast office, smash a keyboard and knock over a monitor. This might sound like a great alternative but apparently it only results in jail time.

I would advise affected Comcast subscribers to play around with these alternatives, some solutions that work for one person, might not work for another. Do you have another solution that is not reported here? Let us know in the comments!

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110 Responses

1 Oct 21, 2007 at 20:14 by Scott

Nice article, but I think you have the wrong word in the headline: “BitTorrent Throttling”? They’re breaking seed connections entirely, not slowing them down.

2 Oct 21, 2007 at 20:32 by joe

If i read it correct, you can not seed a file? Who cares?

3 Oct 21, 2007 at 20:36 by %^&

[quote]If i read it correct, you can not seed a file? Who cares?[/quote]

Um, the people who wouldn’t be able to download it because you leeched might care.

4 Oct 21, 2007 at 20:41 by joe

ive never seeded a file. why? because there is already 4000 others

5 Oct 21, 2007 at 20:45 by Scott

Joe, anyone who wants to keep BT alive by giving back what they take cares. There’s little need to seed a torrent with 4000 seeds already, but a lot of torrents are not nearly that big, sometimes fewer than 10 seeders. Sometimes all seeders disappear and the torrent dies.

In addition, someone who can’t seed can’t upload something new. As a musician releasing my work via BitTorrent, you bet I care about this (fortunately I have Cox).

6 Oct 21, 2007 at 21:04 by Ernesto

[quote comment="191783"]Nice article, but I think you have the wrong word in the headline: “BitTorrent Throttling”? They’re breaking seed connections entirely, not slowing them down.[/quote]
They actually do both, but you’re right, the title could have been better…

7 Oct 21, 2007 at 21:20 by The 8472

After some more in-depth tests how to determine how exactly those disconnects are triggered we have come up with something for Azureus users that can help in some cases (their heuristic to identify bittorrent traffic doesn’t seem to be uniform): http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Avoid_traffic_shaping#Level_5

It’s supplementary to normal bittorrent encryption.

8 Oct 21, 2007 at 21:22 by soullexx

the angry old lady is a touching story. :)

9 Oct 21, 2007 at 21:31 by Seanie

http://digg.com/tech_news/How_To_Bypass_Comcast_s_BitTorrent_Throttling

(sorry for doing this on lots of stories).

I would love to see a digg this button built into this site. thanks.

10 Oct 21, 2007 at 21:34 by The 8472

[quote comment="191847"]I would love to see a digg this button built into this site. thanks.[/quote]

uhmm… there is a digg button after the “related entries” section…

11 Oct 21, 2007 at 22:16 by system

[quote]BitTorrent over SSH works, but it will cripple the servers of the SSH providers if you plan to use it permanently.[/quote]

SSH to my own server with a 100mb/s link would not be crippled by me using 500kb/s up and 8mb/s down, even if using it 24/7. The crippling effects occur when you tell people in other articles (like the one linked) to abuse poorly funded, none profit services designed for low bandwidth use.
A massively over subscribed and low bandwidth VPN service would also collapse.

The SSH article still links to silenceisdefeat, thus you are still contributing massively to the problems of shell providers.
If you gave a crap about the crippling effects, you’d remove that link.

One solution not mentioned above is to rent a VPS and use as a seed box.
Unless comcast start throttling HTTP traffic, it will work fine. Not only do you not have RST packets, they can usually seed faster than the average home connection. SSH and VPN solutions are limited to less than your home upload rate.

12 Oct 21, 2007 at 22:27 by cold772

Alaska Communications Service (in Alaska) is doing them same thing with bittorrent & other p2p traffic

13 Oct 21, 2007 at 23:11 by Logos

Not only has Comcast previously been killing my seed connections, it now appears they are doing the same for downloads. I can’t seem to keep any download connection for any length of time.

14 Oct 21, 2007 at 23:24 by h33t

thanks for the excellent guide dude

15 Oct 21, 2007 at 23:53 by Vote with your feet

get a decent ISP!

16 Oct 22, 2007 at 00:12 by Seanie

[quote comment="191851"]
uhmm… there is a digg button after the “related entries” section…[/quote]
woops….
Thanks for pointing this out to me.

17 Oct 22, 2007 at 00:45 by fedor

For some reason I have comcast highspeed internet and I still can bypass seeding without any encryption of such.

18 Oct 22, 2007 at 00:46 by John J. Righteous-Hypocrite

“3. Reporting the issue to Technical Support. No explanation needed here.”

There should be some explanation. Granted, a lot of tech support for Comcast is not great by any means, it is not usually the fault of the agent, but that of Comcast. Comcast does not train their “third party” phone “consultants” in any sort of effective manner. They also don’t tell their agents that these issues are going on. That they, as a company are actively doing such things to hinder customer’s surfing experience. We have to find out for ourselves by reading posts such as your these.

Please don’t read this wrong, and think that I am taking up for Comcast. Far from it, I am sticking up for the agents who are wrought under the wire by customers who have no thought of how tiring a job can be when all you deal with is people complaining and calling you stupid. All day.

Comcast tech rep’s are generally not payed nearly enough and if you want a good idea of what they’re paid; each customer is worth about $1.50 Canadian to each representative. As per the hourly wage, on average eight hours a day.

One frustrating things with many of these articles (yours and other outlets, although I enjoy them nonetheless) is that the rep is often pinned as incompetent. If you want some detailed information, feel free to contact me.

19 Oct 22, 2007 at 00:47 by fedor

[quote comment="191971"]For some reason I have comcast highspeed internet and I still can bypass seeding without any encryption of such.[/quote]

Edit: For some reason I have comcast highspeed internet and I still can bypass seeding throttling without any encryption of such.

20 Oct 22, 2007 at 01:39 by Tate

I laugh at every article I read these days that acts like this is some big new thing. Traffic shaping has been discussed for YEARS over on DSLReports, including the more recent addition of packet forgery via Sandvine. Congrats on being the 12,000th news source to report on traffic shaping!

21 Oct 22, 2007 at 01:41 by FunnyLookinHat

Although you talked about forcing encryption via the clients themselves, you didn’t mention using Tor. Although you may lose some download speed with Tor due to it’s encryption and multiple hops around the world, you will on the whole have a better experience than without if you are on comcast.

For more information: tor.eff.org

On linux, it’s easy to use… simply type “torify azureus” or “torify deluge” (for whatever client you’re using) with ALT+F2. On windows, you simply have to setup proxy settings in your bittorrent client to point to your local Tor daemon. Googling for “Tor” and your bittorrent client of choice should yield some decent tutorials.

22 Oct 22, 2007 at 01:46 by Anonymous

4. One of the best options, if possible, is to switch to another ISP.

Yeah, I’ll look into that with my completely monopoilzed city, chief.

23 Oct 22, 2007 at 01:52 by alexa

Tor is slow and limited bandwidth, and also more massively damaging to everyone than using a SSH shell provider such as silenceisdefeat (as you’re crapping all over hundreds of people’s machines, not just one server provider!). also, you can’t have incoming connections, which is critical to being a seed: What use is it if nobody else can contact you asking for pieces of files??

A real solution would be to use one of the VPN providers listed: they’re designed for this, and you’ll get a far faster speed than using any other method (such as encryption: many clients don’t have encryption built in, only the big names like Azureus).

24 Oct 22, 2007 at 02:09 by Anonymous

Netgear ProSafe VPN Firewall does the trick quite well…and there is no other choice….it’s Comcast or nothing…at least where I live

25 Oct 22, 2007 at 02:13 by lulz?

[quote comment="192000"]Tor is slow and limited bandwidth, and also more massively damaging to everyone than using a SSH shell provider such as silenceisdefeat (as you’re crapping all over hundreds of people’s machines, not just one server provider!). also, you can’t have incoming connections, which is critical to being a seed: What use is it if nobody else can contact you asking for pieces of files??

A real solution would be to use one of the VPN providers listed: they’re designed for this, and you’ll get a far faster speed than using any other method (such as encryption: many clients don’t have encryption built in, only the big names like Azureus).[/quote]

people still have not learned to use utorrent?

traffic shaping/seed blocking is done so you dont crap all over the isp’s lines. they can support the downward traffic 24/7 across all customers they cant support the uploads. Buy a rapidshare account if you really have no clue how to get around this.

Well thats my theory anyway…

26 Oct 22, 2007 at 02:17 by chris

use Tor, and you won’t have any problems, works great, and the more tore users, the better, open source and great, have not had a problem, p.s. i am writing this from a Comcast computer at work.

27 Oct 22, 2007 at 02:18 by big byte

keep changing port numbers. and keep it random, i.e. don’t cycle between 10-20 ports. there are 64K ports available. use them.
If you are behind a router or firewall, you might need to reconfigure every time the port number changes.
Oh, and don’t forget to encrypt traffic.

28 Oct 22, 2007 at 02:23 by souper

HOMEROWED!

29 Oct 22, 2007 at 02:24 by hi

no problems here running on port 80 with heavy firewalls ids and ips shut off all of it and i had not problem, is this area specific or something Note i got 800 kb/s to 1000kb/s

30 Oct 22, 2007 at 02:26 by Doofus

Hmm, I am wondering if this might be a workaround:

Have the person who uploads a torrent file include a small 5 or 6k random text file titled “Comcast_Buster.txt.

When you download the torrent, using Azareus or u.torrent, just deselect that single comcast buster file and do not download it. This way you will never achieve a “completed” torrent and will not be recognized as a seeder, thus avoiding the reset packets. Meanwhile, you can upload the rest of the good files in the torrent and maintain your ratio.

Workable???

31 Oct 22, 2007 at 02:48 by zeros

I have ONE more solution for the What Works section.

Call comcast and tell them to go fuck themselves and switch your service.

Most cable companies are required to open their lines to a second provider. Find out your alternative.

32 Oct 22, 2007 at 03:15 by davidwr

On Oct 22, 2007 at 02:48 by zeros wrote: “Most cable companies are required to open their lines to a second provider. Find out your alternative.”

Not where I live.

The two inexpensive good options are the cable monopoly or DSL with the telco monopoly.

Other options include dialup, satellite, cell-phone, T1, and other expensive or slow options.

33 Oct 22, 2007 at 03:27 by zeros

Some states have laws preventing a cable monopoly.

http://www.wewantchoiceohio.com/

Thats my state, I dunno about others though… Maybe somebody can find a list :|

34 Oct 22, 2007 at 03:54 by Pinko

When I was using a Comcast account a couple months ago, Comcast did seem to be stopping every torrent that was purely seeding. However, when I switched those torrents to “forced start” or “forced seeding” (I forget which) in Azureus, that seemed to stop whatever they were doing, and the seeds chugged along at my upload speed limit.

35 Oct 22, 2007 at 04:17 by Mike Anderson

I like the old lady story… I know it was not the right thing for her to break stuff at Comcasts office but is there really a better way to deal with a monopoly giant? Not saying everyone needs to break keyboards at their offices but maybe a less severe type of protest/attack would be an effective way of bring about change…

36 Oct 22, 2007 at 05:14 by Anonymous

In other countries, attempts by several ISPs to throttle was essentially brought to a halt by a large number of their customers going elsewhere (and others threatening too) – though if Comcast is your only choice that’s not an option.
If enough people actually complain, or simply go elsewhere if it’s possible, maybe they’ll wake up to themselves.

37 Oct 22, 2007 at 06:10 by pinbl4ck

you just need to get a hosting account for like 6 bucks a month at a place like dreamhost.com … they allow you 5TB a month of traffic. just use your comcast for legit stuff or like others have said get diff isp. yay for choices!

38 Oct 22, 2007 at 06:14 by Anonymous

We would use DSL – but we can’t get it where we live. Thus, our only choice is Comcast, those fucking corporate assholes.

Regardless, encrypting my traffic using the guide on the Azureus wiki seems to give me decent upload speeds, though I’ve noticed my share ratio on Demonoid slowly falling…

39 Oct 22, 2007 at 06:26 by Anonymous

I don’t doubt that comcast is doing this but I have to question who exactly they are doing this to. I use comcast and have no problems with my uploads. So where exactly is happening?

40 Oct 22, 2007 at 07:01 by Anonymous

Note that if you use a lot more bandwidth than the average user, Comcast may be happy if you switch ISP’s. It lowers their cost base per customer.

41 Oct 22, 2007 at 08:23 by merton

I canceled my CONcast service 1 day before the AP story broke and had therefore an interesting conversation with the retention rep. The guy I talked to seemed pretty knowledgeable but clearly had no specific info about the traffic manipulation. And he talked his own experience as a Comcast customer of downloading movies etc. over BitTorrent, which if I’m not mistaken is definite pirate activity. I’m not sure whether it’s company policy to discuss that or just the individual I happened to run into. Here’s a rundown of what the retention rep told me (paraphrased):

Rep: Is your reason for canceling related to pricing or service?
Me: Service related.
Rep: Can you go into more detail?
Me: Ever since you guys [Comcast] took over from Time Warner in this area I’ve found it’s impossible to seed torrents. I have DSL now and while it’s slower, anything is faster than zero.
Rep: We don’t block BitTorrent traffic. I don’t have any trouble when I run BitTorrent. I downloaded a movie just last night. Are you sure it’s not working?
Me: The problem isn’t when you download, it’s when you try to seed.
Rep: That only affects certain markets in the East.
Me: I can only report what I myself have experienced. It’s impossible to seed anything. Now that I’m on DSL everything works fine.
Rep: Are you a heavy downloader? Over 100 gb per month? Do you download video TS files [DVD raw... typically 4 gb in size]? Did you receive a letter for high broadband usage?
Me: No, no, and no. Maybe it’s because I’m in an apartment complex where there are probably be a lot of customers on the same node. Whatever, it doesn’t work and that’s why I’m canceling.
Rep: [babbles something about downloading 6 files at a time... clearly irrelevant... we both know the conversation is pointless]

It seemed like he was trying to gather information from me about how it worked, how they decide who to target, etc. I agree with post #18, I don’t think Concast is informing their CS reps about whatever it is they’re doing.

#40 – That’s why more people need to cancel their service. They’ll only be happy about losing customers if the numbers are small. I’d wager everyone who’s upset about this traffic manipulation is also the first person everyone in their family goes to for computer advice… including what ISP to get. It’s too bad for people stuck with no alternative to Concast, but that’s what monopolies are all about. Once these companies get big enough all they care about is rewriting the rules to favor themselves and eliminate competition.

42 Oct 22, 2007 at 09:41 by scott

my cox service was shut down because my neighbor had used my wireless signal, which was unsecured, to download a movie through bitorrent. Assholes!

43 Oct 22, 2007 at 10:12 by RzmmDX

[quote comment="192198"]my cox service was shut down because my neighbor had used my wireless signal, which was unsecured, to download a movie through bitorrent. Assholes![/quote]

meh that’s sad, sadly i m that kind of asshole…if i can find a stable wireless connection…

and also, pls cancel yr comcast… the world of torrents needs more seeders

44 Oct 22, 2007 at 11:37 by n00bkillha

[quote comment="191805"]ive never seeded a file. why? because there is already 4000 others[/quote]

Shut your hole leech.

45 Oct 22, 2007 at 12:37 by Anonymousness

Verizon DSL, FTW! Thankfully, I don’t have this problem with my ISP.

I can imagine that the ratios of people using private trackers are suffering. That’s gotta suck. Not just for the ratios but for the health of the torrents. However, sometimes it can’t be avoided. Some private trackers ban you if your ratio drops too low.

Don’t stress about your ratio if you cannot seed.

Just use NRPG RatioMaster: http://ratiomaster.nrpg.info/

Personally, I don’t use this program. I seed with µTorrent and use PeerGuardian 2, to keep the *IAA’s away. And since my ISP isn’t so damned anal about BT traffic, I can seed ’til I bleed!

46 Oct 22, 2007 at 14:38 by Ink

Just get a new ISP.
All you comcast complainers must be dumb as shit, honestly. You pay keep paying them for this! WTF is wrong with you!?!

47 Oct 22, 2007 at 15:53 by nizbit

[quote comment="192198"]my cox service was shut down because my neighbor had used my wireless signal, which was unsecured, to download a movie through bitorrent. Assholes![/quote]

Protecting your wireless network is as easy as “click-click,” why the heck would you leave it unsecure? On second thought, don’t answer that question; if everyone who had unsecured wireless suddenly got smart i might actually have to pay for internet access…

48 Oct 22, 2007 at 16:35 by Kid Icarus

Ink:

Lots and lots of people *can’t* change ISPs. My ISP is not Comcast, but there is no real alternative to the one I’ve got. The traffic generated by updating a new Linux install (usually half to a whole gig, and I do this several times a month) plus my brother’s Halo addiction is enough to make them whiny.

My college has a marvelous connection, but firewalling prevents bit torrents from ever getting out of the 20-30k download speed range. My record at home is 150k, average more like 40-50. My record on a shell server in Germany was 780k… for the same torrent that was giving me 23k a second at home :) So, bittorrent CAN be very fast, when no-one is standing in your way…

49 Oct 22, 2007 at 17:17 by Ink

First of all 780k? I’ve got a 1.5 MB/s line here and I can max it out on a public tracker… I’m not even talking private tracker here.
If you’re talking about upload… my root server does 5-8.5MB/s for hours easy while seeding (not that I usually let it run for hours with that speed).
If your shell server is that slow it’s probably a vps in which case you should start looking for a new provider because even a vps is usually faster than that.

And btw. what distro are you using!?
I usually run debian testing/unstable on more than one system and the amount of data the updates use are pretty much nothing compared to the rest… same goes for some online gaming + ts2 or vt. (xbox bleh)

And on topic: Most ppl can change ISPs they just don’t want to because the other ones cost a bit more and bitch because their cheap ass ISP is crap.

50 Oct 22, 2007 at 17:32 by Anonymous

Where’s SandVine execs information?

51 Oct 22, 2007 at 17:35 by Kid Icarus

Well to me, 780k is special :( I guess I’m not a big enough torrenter to have seen better… I followed a link here from a non-torrent-related site, so I guess I should have known to keep my mouth shut ;)

And, when I say update, I mean updates for an ISO that is a few months old, for example I just installed Fedora Core 7’s stable iso and there was ~700mb of updates to do… and Ubuntu’s new update 7.10 is like 650mb…

52 Oct 22, 2007 at 19:45 by BlueRat

I have Comcast and I haven’t had problems seeding yet. My upload speed has always been capped badly though. I have to leave my computer on for a day or two seeding in order to give back what I got. Well I’m moving in a week or two so I won’t have Comcast anymore. Hope my New ISP doesn’t do this.

53 Oct 23, 2007 at 00:24 by dankgreenchile

downloading 10.3 suse I was at a steady 700KB/s after 15min using encryption and a custom port about 30 minutes later I guess I spiked and they started with the RST packets per my wireshark cap. 5min later I was at a steady 30KB/s with no seeding…they have pegged me good and i ftp’d 10.3 at 600KB/s.

Were comcast customers complaining?!?!?! because ive never had a problem. back to IRC. VPN tunnels will soon be shutdown because of abuse.

54 Oct 23, 2007 at 08:23 by Breeze

#30 That sounds like a good idea.
I would try adding a (or multiple) file(s) of decent size (ie 3-10 x PieceSize) and not to use a static or easily recognizable name for it.
One can add the names of the files not to download to the description on the tracker (not in the torrent :)

And use piece-sizes

55 Oct 23, 2007 at 08:25 by Breeze

Argh “HTML”-”Blocker”…

And use piece-sizes BELOW-OR-EQUAL-TO 256 KiB
That helps a swarm a lot.

- Breeze

56 Oct 23, 2007 at 10:22 by Anonymous

So, what if the BT devs from the different clients get together and create some kind of RST packet authentication system, so the client knows it’s not forged? Wouldn’t that fix this whole thing?

57 Oct 23, 2007 at 15:15 by Denny

For a more lighthearted (and slightly retarded) look at the issue: http://www.grinn.net/blog/dev/2007/10/comcast-vs-bittorrent-issue-resolved.html

58 Oct 23, 2007 at 17:57 by Mike

When Comcast wants to throttle their load, suggest they to do first something about the massive Spam originating from their network.

Alternative, all networks outside of Comcast, do block Comcast. Got anyway no business with them, stops at the same time all Spam originating from Comcast networks.

59 Oct 23, 2007 at 22:24 by Sioen

I’ve been uploading at my max speed since I got Comcast three years ago, and that hasn’t changed recently. Still upping at max speed. Perhaps this is other issues — peer quality, tracker quality, congestion, etc. — and not just Comcast.

I have Comcast in Portland.

60 Oct 24, 2007 at 07:14 by no

[quote]Just get a new ISP.
All you comcast complainers must be dumb as shit, honestly. You pay keep paying them for this! WTF is wrong with you!?![/quote]

You are an idiot. Cable companies have monopolies in this country. If you want a different provider, you have to move to a different city. Unless you want dial-up.

61 Oct 24, 2007 at 11:04 by Louis Choquel

I hate those ISPs who prevent BitTorrent seeding because seeding is the method we currently use at Podmailing to send large files by e-mail:

The user starts by seeding them until our servers have a complete copy and then he can shut down or continue seeding, because our servers are there to take over with lots of bandwidth.

Oh well, that gives us one more reason to put the http upload back in place. It should be available in a few days, and once we have that, Comcast users will be able to upload their files this way and have them re-seeded by our servers for free ;-)

http://www.podmailing.com

62 Oct 24, 2007 at 22:25 by jfb

The place I’m staying at has Comcast, downloads usually aren’t that bad, pretty fast usually (get better speeds if I’m IRC-ing anything) but I’ve noticed that my upload are usually capped out after 15-30 kb/s/torrent so my ratio usually stays in the .800 range cause I try to seed for a while before removing the .torrent file and keeping what I got, because of them I now have to let ALL my files seed to 1.5+ before I remove it

63 Oct 25, 2007 at 05:18 by Toad

The problem is that comcast is only blooding seeding. Why don’t the major torrent sites get together and ban comcast users for a day. Redirect them to a page with comcast’s contact info to flood comcast’s support infrastructure.

That’ll teach them. If the torrent sites don’t band together now, this will just get worse over time as upload bandwidth is choked gradually.

64 Oct 25, 2007 at 05:41 by pablote

Comcast is selling (and its clients are buying) something they’ll never give: bandwidth.

What if a game in a 5,000 sits stadium sells more than 5,000 tickets? Wouldn’t that be wrong? A hoax?

65 Oct 25, 2007 at 08:21 by Erk

http://rip747.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/how-to-bypass-comcast’s-bittorrent-throttling-the-true-way/

change the port to 80. worked like a charm for me.

66 Oct 25, 2007 at 08:52 by your daddy

@ The 8472 i dont see a “digg” button twat

67 Oct 25, 2007 at 14:57 by SvenTheGoose

Anyone else on Comcast that can capture packets want to run help me run a test? If so email me at comcastsucks_at_lardie.net. Replace _at_ with @.

68 Oct 25, 2007 at 17:21 by Anonymous

Rogers, here in Canada is doing the same thing comcast is doing in the U.S. I tried BitTorrent over SSH with no luck. I guess I’ll have to try sites that don’t keep a ratio.

69 Oct 25, 2007 at 19:55 by rip747

everything they say in this article is wrong. Just set your bit torrent port to 80.

http://rip747.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/how-to-bypass-comcast%e2%80%99s-bittorrent-throttling-the-true-way/

70 Oct 26, 2007 at 16:33 by tip

stomp reply:collapsing Frankie abodes …

71 Oct 27, 2007 at 00:36 by Bill Weiss

Seriously, don’t use Tor for your downloads. I run a fairly high bandwidth Tor node, and we’ve got enough traffic without trying to mask your movie downloading.

72 Oct 27, 2007 at 02:25 by pablote

http://www.cnet.com/8301-13739_1-9769645-46.html

“Many states make it illegal for an individual to impersonate another individual. New York, a state notorious for its aggressive pro-consumer office of the Attorney General, makes it a crime for someone to “(impersonate) another and (do) an act in such assumed character with intent to obtain a benefit or to injure or defraud another.” (See: NY Sec. 190.25: Criminal impersonation in the second degree). I do not believe that it would be too difficult to prove that Comcast obtains a benefit by impersonating others to eliminate or reduce BitTorrent traffic.”

http://www.cnet.com/8301-13739_1-9769645-46.html

http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/?p=2640

73 Oct 28, 2007 at 19:35 by Anonymous

I would suggest using a seedbox. I have an account with wewillhosit.com that allows me 175GB transfer per month and I can download my files compressed via valid http traffic. Check them out!

74 Nov 03, 2007 at 09:13 by Anonymous

i am on the comcast network and have never had a problem seeding at all, i have used both Azueras and Utorrent with defualt settings and they both worked just fine.

also i have worked tech support for comcast, most of their support is done in 3rd party call centers, the only thing they tell their support is that they do not do this, so if its true they dont even tell their support staff the truth either, so calling into tech support will get you no where. they dont even tell them the kind of hardware used, they just give the front line agents(the ones you call), the basic infomation and partial access to tools to get you back online.

75 Nov 04, 2007 at 08:23 by Miami_FL_Pete

I just wanna say that I started having problems with COMCAST throttling my downloads. I suffered for like 3 days before I found this page. Thank gooodness there are still good people in this world. This page >>>>> http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-encrypt-BitTorrent-traffic/ fixed the problem for me. I am using “BitTorrent”. I am now downloading and seeding again after 3 bad days. Thnaks you again.

76 Nov 05, 2007 at 01:41 by TheShining

[quote comment="191805"]ive never seeded a file. why? because there is already 4000 others[/quote]

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78 Nov 07, 2007 at 08:16 by FifthE1ement

[quote comment="191798"]If i read it correct, you can not seed a file? Who cares?[/quote]

Boy am I glad that you are not the only one sharing (or so-called).

Fifth

79 Nov 08, 2007 at 14:41 by Henk

For those in The Netherlands: Orange throttles down Bittorrent traffic. My current provider (Tiscali) doesn’t

http://codeberna.nl/henk/NietAfknijpen.png

A friend of mine has no problems with Speedlinq, which is also avaible.

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81 Nov 18, 2007 at 20:44 by Anonymous

http://redhatcat.blogspot.com/2007/09/beating-sandvine-with-linux-iptables.html

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84 Nov 29, 2007 at 21:08 by Xam Dam

I’m using Transmission on OS X — the preferences state that “encryption will be used whenever possible” and allows the user to “ignore unencrypted users.”

I have comcast and have no problems seeding or leeching.

85 Nov 30, 2007 at 20:15 by Raptor007

Best way to bypass it? Switch service providers.

86 Dec 04, 2007 at 20:37 by Nuggs

[quote comment="191805"]ive never seeded a file. why? because there is already 4000 others[/quote]

No, not really. I bet you’re also the same person that gets mad when people aren’t seeding something you want.

87 Dec 09, 2007 at 07:38 by PB

Sandvine was killing me, I noticed a huge drop in speed. My friend told me he had the same problem and went with a VPN provider. There are quite a few out there, just google it. I currently use http://www.strongvpn.com . Their speeds are excellent and it’s a regular hosting company ( reliablehosting.com ) so their staff is always there and know what they are doing.

It’s useful for other reasons too so I don’t mind the extra $15 a month on my budget.

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89 Dec 13, 2007 at 01:53 by bellsouth/att 25 KB/s cap on dsl

how do i get around the cap i cant download even a game demo i get the server connetion was reset erro i can even watch steaming videos or large ones.i might download the occational torrent but i want to watch a streaming movie and i got Screwed!

90 Jan 03, 2008 at 19:41 by michael

I am having problems seeding on a private tracker because of comcast and sandvine. Anyone know f fixes for this on a private tracker?

91 Jan 16, 2008 at 15:35 by Alex

[quote comment="254705"]I am having problems seeding on a private tracker because of comcast and sandvine. Anyone know f fixes for this on a private tracker?[/quote]You can use VPN service, as for example http://safevpn.net

92 Jan 19, 2008 at 07:14 by steve

comcast has most stuff blocked pretty well but if you use the original bittorrent tracker and a site like isohunt.com it should work fine…thats what i do

93 Jan 27, 2008 at 02:08 by Joe Blow

Sourceforge has a Windows port of the FreeBSD firewall called wipfw. You can use it to block TCP packets with the RST flag. You can even configure it to block RST flags only on your BT listen port if you wish. Of course, it can’t defeat Comcast entirely unless both ends of the connection are using it. I am trying it now and I think I see a slight improvement. It might eliminate Comcast’s Sandvine blocking if all Windows based BT users would implement something like this. Of course, they’d probably come up with some other way of blocking then.

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95 Feb 20, 2008 at 17:16 by Frans

[quote comment="192012"]Netgear ProSafe VPN Firewall does the trick quite well…and there is no other choice….it’s Comcast or nothing…at least where I live[/quote]

Nice, USA is indeed slipping behind. The Netherlands….many providers in any city. Just like the rest of the EU.

96 Feb 26, 2008 at 01:53 by Rob Nelson

Um, maybe it’s buried in this post somewhere… If your using a router upgraded to DD-WRT firmware telnet into the router and add the following command:

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp –dport *x* –tcp-flags RST RST -j DROP

This will kill the RST requests before they hit your app..

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98 Mar 03, 2008 at 14:18 by joose

I am running BITorrent on a “concrap” connection right now. It’s not my house, nor my money, but if it were the only alternative in the same price range would be DSL through Qwest. Choose your demon, I geuss…

As for seeding on comcast, I noticed that (on this connection) when using BT normally almost none of your files seed by themselves. I have found, like someone[s] said, changing ports, resetting the modem and forcing seeds will get me up to 60-70 kbps (up). problem is they seem to adapt, dropping me down to 40, then eventually 10 or less. Then it’s a matter of playing with it all again, a task I will gladly partake in to share the wealth.

As for Monday’s hearing in boston, I must say it was a great deal more watchable (yes I watched the whole thing) than C-sPam usually is . (bush speech = insult to my intelligence)
ConCr@p really shot themselves in the foot this time. The FCC commissioner asked like 3 times “does bit torrent technology allow users to gain more bandwidth than the limit (i.e max speeds) that is being sold to them?”
the answer was, all three times: NO

The FCC was not at all amused (especially with the whole ’seat-warmers’ fiasco) by C0NCraps snake oil wheeling and dealings. It’s not just this incident, this company has a rap sheet a mile long of shady bullcrap they pull every day and steal ppl’s hard earned money. I say it’s about they got their karma for being such a cocky brat.

99 Mar 31, 2008 at 08:36 by vinnyty

I have comcast and I have never experienced a speed like this. Look at the third download and the speed for it

http://vinnyty.com/pics/ummm.jpg

100 Apr 01, 2008 at 00:38 by hey Vinny...

1.3*8 = 10.5Mb/sec for that one torrent. In some areas Comcast does offer 12Mb service so it is technically possible. In playing around on my LAN I’ve seen speeds in excess of 5MB/sec, the only limitation is the network connection.

101 Apr 05, 2008 at 21:58 by Comcast SUCKS

Comcast does not care how happy customers are. All they care about is packing new customers on the same network WITHOUT upgrading it. They kill BT traffic instead of upgrading their network. THEY DO NOT GIVE ONE SHIT ABOUT THEIR PRESENT CUSTOMERS. THEY CARE ABOUT OBTAINING NEW ONES. GREED!!!!!! I CANNOT STAND THIS FUCKING COMPANY.

102 Apr 18, 2008 at 21:25 by Comcastic My Ass

Comcast is the Neo Nazis of the internet service providers.

To avoid most and all Comcast invading your privacy is simply a firewall. Usually what i mean by this is not a software one that comes with microsoft but instead a hardware one, like linksus. a good hub will keep the baddies out.

i have comcast for over 4 years now without any complaint besides being slow at times and cost.

if i do notice comcast trying to force me to use any of their software and refusing me into specific sites i would go dsl.

103 May 27, 2008 at 22:32 by Froosty

Interestingly enough I got a “Could not locate remote server” error for this page when I used my plain vanilla comcast connection. Going through Anonymizer.com and it loaded no problem. Could it be that comasst is censoring the web?

BTW I’m just trying to ftp up to comcast’s personal webpage servers, videos of a wedding… Throttled waaay down. (*&(^%!!

104 Jun 06, 2008 at 05:33 by Michael

Your an idiot if you think seeding isn’t important and you obviously don’t know what the hell a private tracker is… GTFO

105 Jun 11, 2008 at 03:13 by joe

has anyone looked into monowall firewall it has a build in vpn could i set this up to work don’t know much about this stuff was just trying to get my speeds up on seeding

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107 Jul 08, 2008 at 11:55 by anonymous

I have confirmed that forcing encryption works using uTorrent 1.7.7 on Windows XP. Thank you !!!

108 Jul 13, 2008 at 02:01 by Dert

I want everyone who has read ANYWHERE that using Linux or Mac IP Tables to drop the forged packets with with the rst flag set won’t help solve your peering problems to IGNORE what all the negative nellies are telling you!! I was a windows user on Comcast’s network and until yesterday, my seeding capacity was ZERO…period…no seeding unless it was during the initial download. Yesterday I installed Ubuntu, dropped those bad, bad rst packets with the proper command and VOILA! I was seeding like crazy. So, if you wanna stick it to Comcast and everyone else using Sandvine – SWITCH TO LINUX OR MAC AND USE YOUR IP TABLES TO DROP THE FORGED RST PACKETS!!! It will fix your problem because now EVERYONE ELSE IS DROPPING THEIR PACKETS TOO!! So the packets get dropped from both sides and no rst is performed. JUST DO IT!! You’ll be glad you did. I’ll be happy to send you screen shots of two machines, side by side, one on windows and one on Linux…with the windows machine seeding to no one and the linux machine seeding like crazy. It really works!

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