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How To Catch BitTorrent Pirates, A Trolling Course

Under the umbrella of the American Bar Association, two so-called copyright troll lawyers are teaching colleagues how to catch BitTorrent pirates. The ‘webinar’ is part of a credit program for lawyers and discusses “tools to pursue infringement claims against anonymous infringers.”

image of a trollThe US Copyright Group – a front for the Dunlap, Grubb & Weaver (DGW) law firm – has made dozens of headlines in recent years after they introduced mass-BitTorrent lawsuits to the United States.

The lawyers in question track alleged BitTorrent pirates and threaten to take them to court. But, as is common with these schemes, all people have to do is pay up a settlement fee and the whole thing simply goes away.

Critics of these practices have described the people involved as ‘copyright trolls,’ and some of the defendants are fighting back. DGW, for example, is currently involved in a class action lawsuit where the law firm is accused of fraud, abuse and extortion.

Considering the above, it came as a surprise when we learned this morning that the DGW law firm is presenting an educational webinar under the umbrella of the American Bar Association. Titled “Finding Anonymous Copyright Infringers,” the course promises to teach fellow lawyers all the tricks they need to catch those pesky pirates.

According to the announcement, part of the webinar will “focus on the hot topic in copyright litigation involving federal litigation against the backdrop of torrent and live web-streaming.” During the webinar participating lawyers will learn more about “utilizing pre-discovery subpoenas [...] and a variety of other legal tools to pursue infringement claims against anonymous infringers.

Basically it reads like a crash course on how to become a copyright troll by the very people who pioneered the scheme in the US. Lawyers who participate in the webinar are eligible for mandatory CLE credit, and we expect that the ‘teachers’ will be compensated for their insights as well.

DGW lawyers Thomas Dunlap and Nick Kurtz will be accompanied by the EFF friendly defense lawyer Paul Ticen. He is expected to address how BitTorrent users have put up a successful defense in court, which is a dangerous exercise considering the negative framing of the course.

This vision is shared by Robert Cashman, a Texas lawyer defending dozens of individuals in mass BitTorrent lawsuits.

“It seems awfully dangerous and stupid to get on a panel with the plaintiff attorney copyright trolls and tell them all of the defense’s strategies,” he told TorrentFreak.

“The way this whole thing is set up, I am afraid it will be the plaintiff attorneys versus the lone defense attorney. I expect to see bloodshed,” he added.

Whatever the outcome, we encourage participants in the course to fill us in on the details. Heck, we might even buy the CD-Rom, which will obviously be pirated by an anonymous Doe in the near future.

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  • Anonymous

    Gee a webstream just begging to be hacked….

    • U No Who

      hmmm ….. methinks so….. to

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001772393375 Lia Piera

        I would definitely have to agree..at least we know all those noobs that just got zapped down in the columbia pres election sting won’t be participating in said hack..
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    • Guest

      I can not stop laughing about all the losers who are going to pay between 75 to $195 to learn how to piss off people and increase dramatically their chances to have their car destroyed their home torched and possibly be killed.

      But you know what me think?

      Usually when people start giving seminar like this that in theory would increase their competition, it is because their stuff does not work and they still try to make money by giving seminars to losers.

      I hope that someone will record the audio and put it on BT!!!

      • Anonymous

        Your forgetting the old story that ends with…
        those who can not do… teach.

        The shakedown market has not been paying them very well, this is a new way to earn revenue. Also as the class action lawsuit against them moves forward, and drags more of the dirty secrets into the light they will be running for cover.

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      • Anonymous

        We can use the audio as samples for my rebellious punk rock !!!
        Fuck The MAFIAA !!!

    • Anonymous_brave_guy

      don’t mind if you , don’t mind if you can … by all means
      pre-discovery subpoenas, that’s like actually admitting it’s guilty until proven innoecent. How anyone can miss the similarities between this and extortion is beyond my comprehension

  • Anyone

    can’t those trolls just die?

    • TeQuiLa-Addict

      dont we all wish so ??

    • Caladol1

      back in the day, our ancestor’s would have taken care of business, but times have changed….. (it’s a good thing that that cycle looks more and more likely to come back)

    • Tippjames

      They can suck a dick and die….

  • Anonymous

    Having just watched this video and learned about Operation Northwoods, I have no doubt in my mind the intentions of the U.S. Government and the American corporations (including the MPAA / RIAA).

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=jl2JQfxnnHU

    http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

    It’s an absolute eye-opener. Americans will go to any lengths to make money.
    No wonder the USA is known as the most capitalist country in the world.

    • http://twitter.com/winterboarder Adrian S

      It’s not us the Americans. It’s those who own us, you and everybody else. Watch what is gonna happen this year, and you will see it’s a global corruption with a few at the top pulling the strings.

      • The guy

        Yes, the government sold us out to make a quick buck, and they are the ones bullied into doing what those corporations want, otherwise those corporations will not fund the governments election campaigns, same for congressmen and other elected officials.

        We are the ones being bullied into paying up, or being sent to jail and practically having our lives ruined.

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      • Anonymous

        Having just watched this video and learned about Operation Northwoods, I have no doubt in my mind the intentions of the U.S. Government and the American corporations (including the MPAA / RIAA).

        http://youtube.com/watch?v=jl2JQfxnnHU

        http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

        It’s an absolute eye-opener. Americans will go to any lengths to make money.
        No wonder the USA is known as the most capitalist country in the world.

        • Snellva

          America=Jews of the world?

        • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

          A sincere thanks for thee heads-up A.

          I’d actually studied in Uni (albeit 25 years ago) the 1961 “Bay of Pigs Invasion of Cuba by US forces”, and the famous 1962 “Cuban Missile Crisis” but had never discovered this gem you’ve just posted.

          And yes, I agree with you 100% that this US insanity really is an “absolute eye-opener”. It always saddens me to read about the illegal occupation by the USA on the Territorial & Sovereign soil of Cuba at Guantanamo Bay – specially when we learn of the brutal and inhumane acts by US personnel against its involuntary inhabitants.

          Now that I have that mini-rant off my chest, I apologise to TF & fellow readers for going so Off-Topic. But there is a sorta connection between the USA’s militaristic fascism and its despicably inhumane attitude toward filesharing for no cash, no profit and no tangible gain (aka ‘piracy’).

          It all links in due the USA’s inferiority complex and their over-compensated reaction to perceived ‘threats’ to it’s fascist régime either at home or abroad.

        • Guest

          it’s funny how an empire has to die for the very reason it became an empire. it’s gonna take time, i might be dead when it’s done, but it’s already on track… copyright is just a symptom

      • Guest

        Dam! this fucking sensor again!

        What did he said? What did he said? I have the right to know!

        Now I can not sleep because I am wondering what did he said?

        Can you fuck it off please with censure? Or is it asking to much for an NSA infested discus based forum?

  • Mabot

    Sharing is caring!

    • The guy

      No arguments there, sharing is always caring.

      • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

        especially when we’re talking STDs

        • Bloaxor

          Sharing diseases is precisely NOT caring. :P

          heh

        • Rukumouru

          @Bloaxor: Captain Obvious to the rescue! ;)

        • Guest

          well, that’s true, from the std’s perspective

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

          that’s not sharing, that’s infecting.

    • It’s a fit-up

      That’s so ironic.

      • Guttabitchnigga

        Infecting is unexspecting.

    • Jack Murdock

      Not true. When you share copies with others, it’s just like stealing physical objects which can’t be replaced. It’s wrong, evil and causes cancer. It destroys jobs, the economy and the value of my investment in plastic disc manufacturers. Sharing ones and zeros has destroyed the ozone layer, killed the dinosaurs, prevented Justin Bieber from reaching puberty and it caused Lady Gaga to grow a penis. May my balls drop if I’m lying.

      • Anonymous

        Unmistakable. This one’s the real Jack Murdock. There can be no doubt. :)

      • Danny

        Lady Gaga has always had a penis!

        • Jack Murdock

          Because she’s a pirate. She downloaded a 3D copy on TPB. True story.

        • Danny

          You mean he. Lady Gaga is an ironic name as its actually a man.

    • stopping by

      It is indeed a beautiful thing to share IP that you own. Like your own personal credit card information.

      Especially, when you choose to share it with people from the Third World.

      OR – when you’ve done that – share it with people from the *music* world.

      You see, that creates new jobs among a wide range of piracy victims – like rappers, writers, musicians, mixing- and mastering engineers and so on. Even drummers. :)

      But I’m sure the brightest among you know that the global economy is based on IP.

      This means that if you try to share IP you don’t own then you’re just creating jobs for the ladies & gentlemen mentioned in the article.

      But hey, they’re people too.

      Sort of.

      • Fredrika

        > “It is indeed a beautiful thing to share IP that you own.”

        > “This means that if you try to share IP you don’t own then you’re just creating jobs for the ladies & gentlemen mentioned in the article.”

        Those two lines indicate you do not understand what IP refers to. It refers to intellectual property, as in the copyright monopoly, which is a piece of scarce intangible property, that can be owned, sold or bought.

        An intellectual work however, does not constitute any kind of property. It can not be owned, sold or bought, and it’s use is not limited by any inherent scarcity.

        People filesharing do not share IP they don’t own. They share information describing patterns of their property, that they own. The only property involved in filesharing belongs to the people filesharing.

        > “You see, that creates new jobs among a wide range of piracy victims – like rappers, writers, musicians, mixing- and mastering engineers and so on. Even drummers. :)”

        Someone has really done a number on you. There exists no scientific evidence to support the thesis that piracy causes any harm to neither society, creators, culture or the sought after goal within the concept of copyright. No victims exist, so please stop spreading this lie.

        > “But I’m sure the brightest among you know that the global economy is based on IP.”

        That does not mean that the global economy wouldn’t benefit even further from the dismantlement of IP. Secondly, you seem to confuse the US economy, with the global economy. The economies of EU, China, India and others is not based on IP. That would be the US only, but they are falling behind quickly, thanks to their belief in the good of IP, a good which no scientific evidence support.

      • Anonymous

        “But I’m sure the brightest among you know that the global economy is based on IP.”

        Most of the global economy is based on IP and derivatives. Whenever anyone looks too closely at these air castles, another bubble bursts. That IP is one of the current fundaments for the western economy is just Not A Good Thing.

        China stated their goal a decade or so back to do to the IP dominance of the west what they did to manufacturing. And are frantically amassing patent portfolios in a way we just cannot match. Simply because internally, China has extremely lax laws which spurs innovation and entrepreneurship in the way we’ve hitherto observed. I.e. they are outgrowing us at a rate which is hard to even imagine.

        So if IP is our big hope for the future, we’re screwed. It doesn’t take a very bright person to know the economy of the industrial countries is based on nonsense and imaginary money. What does take some intellectual fortitude is to recognize that you are looking at a disaster.

        But don’t take my word for it. Go ask the likes of Friedman or Bernanke what happens when you start using IP or shadow derivatives as a basis for an economy.

        And once you’ve done that and have crawled out of the five year old’s sandbox, welcome back to debate the issue with the mature and reasoned adults.

  • Anonymous

    Feds are secretly monitoring people without warrants (warrantless wiretapping), and if they find something incriminating, they use backdated warrants (i.e. warrants with past dates), but we (the public) cannot prove otherwise.

    This is what they did with MegaUpload. They were secretly monitoring Kim Dotcom (and logging his communications) for years without warrants, and when they had built up sufficient evidence, they launched an official investigation based on illegally obtained warrants. Judges, politicians, feds — all paid by and working for the MAFIAA.

    You think the CIA follows rules? They are free to do anything they desire outside of laws, and the FBI being the “domestic” wing of the CIA, is also doing the same. They’re playing a dangerous game and it’s the American citizens paying the price.

    DIVIDED STATES OF AMERICA

    • Rukumouru

      You know what’s sad? Domestic surveillance without warrants is illegal. They’re just PR-ing and bribing their way to have you think you otherwise.

  • rockadayberry

    buy the cd?
    you gotta be kiddin´.

    • Desu75

      People still use optical media that doesn’t consist of a game?

      • The guy

        A game would be the only thing I buy, if it’s new and I really want it, if it’s kinda old, then i’ll just download it and play it on my emulator

  • Peace4s

    Why should pirates and cyberlockers make $$$ then? You complain about lawyers (and rights holders) making money from piracy but don’t complain about Kim Dotcom and his ilk (and all the uploader “affiliates”) making money? Hypocrites.

    • Desu75

      Hello again paid troll. We’ve been expecting you.

      • stopping by

        Um, I thought the paid troll was me.

        OK, carry on…

        • Tom

          I though it was me?

    • GoatFuckinTroll

      You must have gotten your trolling degree from Assclown University

    • Anyone

      those people offer a service people choose to pay for

      lawyers are just leeches trying to syphon as much money from anyone they meet.

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Pirates do NOT make cash you dummy, we simply share for free – yes, “free” means no charge, no exchange of cash, no profit and we do so for no tangible gain. Got it now, or would you prefer the more idiot-proof version?

      As for cyberlockers making $$$ – where’s your evidence please? Provide facts and let’s all see what you’re moaning about. If you FAIL my reasonable request, I urge to STFU and cease posting your anti-people hate-crime comments on OUR boards.

      And if THAT is also too complicated for you to understand, let me make it more plain. Fuck off & die!!!

      Got it now?

    • Guest

      U really have to be american to post such a stupid comment.

      who’s to blame if this industry is dumb enough to lose stream of revenue?

  • Dan

    ask for $50 instead of $8,000 and it might work

    • Caladol1

      I will not pay one cent to the MAFIAA, they can spend money suing me, and even if they win they wont get a cent I rather go to prison…..

  • Anonymous

    And that is why projects like I2P are needed and growing like never before…

    Torrent via I2P FTW!

  • Zan

    Yours to own on cd for the bargain price of…….

    One hundred and fifty dollars!

  • Anonymous

    peace4s- copyright doesnt help the artists, especially the ones that sign to a label and find out a year later that they dont own their own music. when it comes to the film industry, they will still make big budget films and we will still go to the movie theater to see them, what probably wont happen is people buying vhs then dvd then bluray to find out that they have three different players with a bunch of different formats that arent the same. the only jobs that are being lost right now are in the music and print business, and do you know what that means? its time to EVOLVE. find a different job. welcome to the new america because thats the new reality….you…are….obsolete….deal with it!

    • stopping by

      Hm, you sure it’s not the pirate industry that’s obsolete?

      Take a look around you – the whole thing comes tumbling down.

      • Desu75

        We’ve been around for hundreds of years. We’re far from obsolete. Even after they took our ships. They thought we were through. Only if they’d known.

        • stopping by

          “We’ve been around for hundreds of years [...] Even after they took our ships.”

          Know what?

          You want to be a storyteller!

          So in a few years you’ll be bitching about the fücking creeps who steal your stories.

          Just you wait… :)

      • Trespass

        Not tumbling down… evolving. Not even close to obsolete. Whatever they come up with to track people who share, will become obsolete. they call pirates lazy, but it takes brains to circumvent this stupidity.

        Piracy actually enhances innovation. To find me, they would have to go through three continents, through 2 proxies, a VPN, and a Tor relay. May be overkill, but one can’t be too careful nowadays.

        Kinda adds new meaning to the phrase “did you use protection?”…

        • stopping by

          The piracy industry is indeed falling apart – and you are the perfect example:

          Just a few of years ago, it was safe to steal music.

          But today you do need to build a Chinese Wall and hide behind it. You said so yourself.

          And you know you need to make that wall stronger and stronger for every single day.

          The purpose of the global initiative against IP theft we see these days is not to stop the unimployed basement guys who spend their lives on building Chinese Walls.

          The purpose is to prevent ordinary people from stealing. See, they don’t have the time for building walls as they have jobs to do and families to take care of.

          So they just buy the music they love.

          Result?

          The fall of the piracy industry….

        • Fredrika

          > “The piracy industry is indeed falling apart..”

          Industry usually refers to an organized entity that earns revenues and profit from some business idea, but that does not apply to people performing non-profit filesharing, and piracy usually refers to copyright infringement, which torrent sites and cyberlockers doesn’t commit, so i’m not sure what industry you refer to, possibly street vendors in 3rd world countries? Well that sort of piracy will indeed die out one day thanks to filesharing.

          > “Just a few of years ago, it was safe to steal music.”

          As you may or may not know, it’s not possible to steal music. If you refer to filesharing however, that is something that is safer then ever before. There already exists completely unstoppable P2P-techniques, that no law can go after.

          > “The purpose of the global initiative against IP theft we see these days..”

          There is no such global initiative. In EU there is actually an initiative to legalize filesharing on an EU level, and the only growing member group in the EU parliament has already taken a stance behind this Pirate Party program, and more are to follow, since it’s conclusions are supported by scientific evidence, unlike the false propaganda you and other copyright parasites spread.

          > “The purpose is to prevent ordinary people from stealing.”

          Where does this ridiculous ignorance come from? Ordinary people aren’t stealing anything.

          > “So they just buy the music they love.”

          More ignorance. You can only buy goods or services, but music as in intellectual works does not constitute neither.

        • Anonymous

          @stopping by

          “But today you do need to build a Chinese Wall and hide behind it. You said so yourself.”

          Which is annoying but fairly easy, all things considered.

          Also, in order for your argument to be viable you need to recognize that even if we try to make online legislation as draconian as it is in China, filesharers will not be affected at all. Just as neither dissidents nor “pirates” have any reason to fear their government and vested interests.

          The Chinese comunity is a few hundred million people strong, 62% of whom are estimated to be filesharers. Why not, since they already have to use the toolkit in order to even be fully online? And that holds true everywhere else. In every place where more stringent measures have been proposed the net effect is that filesharing actually starts to rise.

          Your choices are one of three. An unregulated internet. No internet. Or a heavily regulated internet where the collateral effects of regulation impact ordinary citizens to such a degree that everyone, like in China, already has to use the pirate toolkits – which usually means they see no harm in following the rest of the “how -to” and start finding their entertainment on the darknet.

          “The purpose is to prevent ordinary people from stealing. See, they don’t have the time for building walls as they have jobs to do and families to take care of.

          Takes all of five minutes and is easier than setting a password on your own wireless router. Yeah, great effort involved there. The regular joe who can’t wrap his head around the common circumvention descriptions can’t even operate a computer anyway. In my experience, how to anonymize and circumvent blocks is one of the few areas of IT I can teach to just about anyone in less than ten minutes.

          I usually don’t have to though. More and more those “chinese walls” are becoming standardized toolkits in every person’s home computer.

          As for piracy “industry”…lol…yes, and the war on drugs is being won. I couldn’t personally care about Kim dotcom but I find it laughable that you cry victory when you just nicked one head of the learnean hydra. Reminds me of your predecessors when they crowed cheerfully about the way TPB was going down – for the twelfth time or so.

      • Guest

        you don’t really get it amigo. habits may have changed since the fall of megaupload and the ongoing war on piracy (btw, is this part of the “war on terror”?… never heard of something that dumb… “war on terror”… laughable, and the us citizens buy it and ask for more… take that and stick it up your ass, and enjoy…)

        anyway, for instance, myself i’ve changed my habits:
        - before i used to buy plenty of cd’s and dvd’s
        - then i had a mix of buying and downloading
        - today, i will not buy ANY cd or dvd, ne-ver again. I consider it as a duty, and as a display of self esteem.

        This beautiful entertainment industry, that i have funded since i was a kid, has succeeded in making me wanting it to be destroyed.
        Great success… keep on, masses are following!

        • Caladol1

          I approve!!!

      • Trespass

        @ stopping by
        Aren’t you the self-rightous prick. Missed the point completely. Sharing has been around as long as recorded media. I recorded songs off the radio in the 60′s, albums off the radio in the 70′s, recorded movies on my betamax in the 80′s, and recorded via TIVO and DVR in the 2000′s.

        The internet is just a new broadcast channel. Why isn’t HBO sued for they facilitating infringement? I record stuff from there all the time. My point originally is that the entertainment industry has lost all previous attempts at control and will fain miserably with this attempt as well. Every technological advance has sparked litigious behavior from the industry.

        I’m sure you are guilty as well of “stealing”. Rip music to your iPod? Technically a no-no. (There is no fair use anymore.) Ever use a Xerox machine? Seriously, lose the “holier than thou”, shit….

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  • monkeyslap

    ““The way this whole thing is set up, I am afraid it will be the plaintiff attorneys versus the lone defense attorney. I expect to see bloodshed,” he added.”

    With how more aggressive these copyright bastards are this year, I expect to see bloodshed too eventually. Literally, not metaphorically.

    “Occasionally the tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.” – Thomas Jefferson

    • Anon

      Right. Bloodshed so you can unlawfully copy movies and music and stuff.
      It’s comments like these that really reveal the pirate mentality to be the entitled asshats they really are.

      • Anyone

        time to change the law so moral law matches up with actual law.

      • CLL

        They learn the mentality from you lot, what with your ideas that everything can be solved by police brutality and lawsuits.

      • Fredrika

        > “Right. Bloodshed so you can unlawfully copy movies and music and stuff.”

        You seem confused. The existence of filesharing is not an issue. It can not be stopped, regardless of what the law says. That war was over before it even started. As anyone with any technical skills can inform you of, it’s technically impossible to stop F2F-filesharing. No law can change that fact.

        This debate is not about filesharing or no filesharing, it’s about the damage the monopoly holders cause society, with their meaningless attempts to stop something that can’t be stopped. I they do not stop harming society as they currently do, things could escalate, which is what the OP is referring to.

        > “It’s comments like these that really reveal the pirate mentality to be the entitled asshats they really are.”

        You do not know anything about that, since you, because of your usual ignorance, didn’t even understand what the comment was referencing.

        Secondly, as has been explained to you several times before, something that you seem incapable of understanding or addressing, obviously people feel entitled to the use of their property, that they own, which is the only property involved when filesharing. There’s nothing strange or abnormal about that.

        What’s strange is that some parasites and fascists seriously believe that they are entitled to a legislative monopoly that intrudes into peoples property. Those would be the fascistic parasites you seem to side with, right?

        What’s even more strange is that some of those fascists are so inhumane in their personality, so that they applaud rape of human beings, and then blame the rape victim. Hhmm, now let’s see if i can remember who i’m thinking of.. Or if anyone could remind me..

      • FO and die

        It is easy to score cheap point against simplified point of view . There will be bloodshed when police break your door down cos you clicked wrong link on your comp . Your blood not theirs .

      • Anonymous

        No, bloodshed because most people do not want to live in a world where common jurisprudence, many civil rights, and the concept of “burden of proof” has been dismissed as collateral damage due to the effects of desperate attempts to curb as trivial a “problem” as the copying of information between private individuals.

        Is this a followup on your previous commentaries that the victim of abuse must be to blame since they were being provocative?

        Or is it a followup on your opinion that rape was a perfectly morally acceptable punishment for the “crime” of filesharing?

      • monkeyslap

        Way to go putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about committing violent acts so I can get free stuff. I was stating that the copyright trolls are really becoming tyrannical and I’m worried that it may have to come to bloodshed in order to stop them. I have nothing against copyright, only the way it is viciously being enforced and taking precedence over freedom more and more.

      • Pirate

        One of the recent promotions on TPB was George Barnett, who uploaded his latest album and allowed people to torrent it for free, and he still makes money as people still buy his stuff.

        Hell, he even links to the TPB download from his website:
        http://www.georgebarnett.co.uk/

        See link entitled “TPB”.

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    • Guest

      WTF?

    • Pirate

      Legit.

  • Madrix

    Rules are only meaningfull if people agree to follow them.
    Otherwise they are just words.Censorship reflects society’s lack of confidence in itself.It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime.Americans used to roar like lions for liberty; now we bleat like sheep for security.Man was meant to be free and master of his own destiny, not some monitored cog in a dystopian machine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ValhallaLegend Andrew Lee

    My guess is within the next 2 years this is going to have reached the most extreme and in the end it will fail.
    They could have got away with most of the shit they’re doing but as more and more ridiculous claims are made even the people that support copyright protection will realize they’re crossing some pretty big lines.
    Their greed will be their downfall in the end. Their crimes against humanity and direct actions that could set us back decades in this technological era must not go unpunished.
    Like I’ve said before they have no right to enforce what they’re trying to enforce. If copying movies should be illegal so should loaning or borrowing any other item on this planet since it also cost money to manufactures. If my neighbors decided to not loan me a drill I would have had to buy one so their actions made one of the many manufactures of drills lose a sale. I would guess 99.9% of people have borrowed or loaned something out at one point or another. That being said these hypocrites make me sick.

    • Anonymous

      So much fail Mr Lee.

      • Rukumouru

        I actually side with PelouzeTF SOMEWHAT.

        I believe that instead of making all sharing a one-size-fits-all fully legal affair, just by having the corporations release aptly-priced, dlc-less content (especially on digital venues, where current prices are artificially bloated) and product demonstrations, people can sample and make informed decissions on their purchases and at the same time do absolutely as they see fit with the content they purchase so long as they keep it to themselves or immediate household members would fix the problem almost completely. Obviously, exemptions to user-generated, free modifications like parodies, game mods, music remixes, covers, should be all legal so long as it’s not for profit, things are moving faster towards this thanks to Youtube and others).

        Cyberlockers and the like shouldn’t be made Internet Police or liable for user content. Instead, uploaders should be made accountable if their offenses continue after a warning. This cannot be based on speculation, as it is now. Actual evidence, please. It can also not be based on permanent internet surveillance. Privacy must be respected.

        Thing is, just by having big corps. do what I said avobe (product demos, competitive pricing AND NO DRM) would be enough for a huge chunk of piraters (including me: You won’t see me pirating ANY content that is served like this) but you’ll most likely not see them doing it, as they would be surrendering a good part of their control to the markets and it scares the shit out of them.

        Basically, not everything is so black and white. Sharers are right in saying that privacy, sound evidence, no permanent surveillance, elimination of DRM and price fixing schemes etc. all need to be adressed. However, one PelouzeTF here is right in saying a good chunk of self-appointed “filesharers” are consciousless pirates. I used to know quite a few, their mantra, “why would anyone buy shit they can get for free”. Thankfully I was able to educate them into paying for all content that they enjoyed and wasn’t ridden with woeful DRM like Ubisoft’s (now patched out) always-online pile of bullshit.

        My point: If the market changed to adress the reality that to be successful in the long term you must be pro-consumer (respect goes a looooong way), then much of the “moral shield” would be completely invalid. No money? Use open-source freeware, product demos… Got money? Buy your shit and do all you want with it short of transformative-less distribution. Sampling? Yeah right, that’s what demos are for.

        And so on. Valve is right. A gigantic aspect of piracy is a SERVICE ISSUE. Let’s adress that before we start slinging lawsuits and turning to Big Brother.

      • Anonymous

        Well, that much is true. There is too much money vested in IP for it to “die” legally.

        I predict instead that it will continue to be rendered irrelevant since the public just won’t accept it – as they never have. We’ll end up with legislation which no one is happy with and which will be ignored by just about everyone not under direct scrutiny.

        Just as it’s happened every other time technology has upset the applecart of vested interests with a current business model which no longer works.

  • Anonymous

    When it comes to copyright laws and enforcement, there are lines you cannot cross. And if you cross them, you wont see the edge off the cliff immediately after.

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  • Raul

    As I have posted elsewhere this is all about trying to legitimize an illegitimate practice of the law. Nothing else.

  • al

    How odd they have never won a case in court and yet they tell others how to do what they can’t. It just gets more laughable.

    • hmm

      I think what they are selling is their business model of extorting cash from people before it gets to court.

  • Anonymous

    Funny thing is, they can stop all downloading, ALL DOWNLOADING, and they won’t make a dime more. My money all goes towards bills, like gas, electric, water, sewer, phone, internet. I’m sure most of us are the same. The rich people will be the only ones with money to buy the unnecessary stuff this controversy is about. Like music, movies will become a thing seldom bought.

  • Universal Soldier

    I am so happy I do not live in the US. Anyways thanks to the ppl from US who seed the torrents even after so much danger.

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      Glad to carry on our heritage!

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    what is that toy called in the top post?

    • Guest

      It’s something called the “troll doll”. Sold like hot cakes in the 90s if I remember correctly

    • Anonymous

      It’s a troll doll, and it sells well in a cyclical manner, not just in the 90s. I had one in the 1960s… actually, I had about a dozen now that I think of it. So did my friends.

  • FuckTrolls

    It does not matter to the trolls if you downloaded/uploaded or never even had a torrent client installed. The software and honeypot scheme they are using entraps innocent people with false positives. Even if the IP address is downloading they are going after the ISP account holders unless the account holders can point out who done it.

    Unsecured wireless connections and IP spoofing leads to too many people who have never done anything into an extortion scheme. Innocent until proven guilty. Too bad there is not a virus especially made for bittorrent trolling software.

  • Anon

    Why are the EFF participating in this?

  • Fake

    Didn’t companies learn anything from what happened with Righthaven?

    After hiring the copyright lawsuit experts at Righthaven, content providers have now lost the right to their own content and will have to buy it back at public auction.

    Companies that didn’t like past news stories about them are planning on buying them to erase the past news.

    Furthermore, just as courts have ruled that banks don’t have the right to enforce foreclosure on mortgages they don’t own – the rights to most major media content is actually held in complex off shore tax shelters and is not the property of the US publishers at all. They are only licensees. The reason they don’t want to go to court this way is it exposes the obvious and systematic tax cheat that is the foundation of big media.

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  • Rawrshock

    To the people discussing Gitmo:

    Part of the reason it is there and isn’t shut down, is that Fidel also stores some of his political prisoners there, but you won’t read that in the MSM. They may officially talk smack back and forth between the USA and Cuba, but it’s such a convenient way to handle things like funneling the Cuban government money to keep acting a certain way, or paying them not to send military aid to Mexico.

    If you’ll notice from any video about Cuba, sure, they aren’t quite as rich as say Britain or France, but you also don’t see any starving Cubans, and the ones in power seem to have quite a few nice things. The cars are old, yes. Some of the buildings are old, yes. But, also have mention the videos showing the Cuban government spending several million USD renovating a baseball stadium using a US building contractor. DOLLARS, not that Russian funny money or their own currency.

    Actual dollars, tens, twenties, etc. Think about that. Cuba has been banned from officially owning US currency by the UN and the USA under the embargo, yet somehow they end up with legitimate freshly printed US currency to spend on renovating baseball stadiums….

    • http://twitter.com/erikqj Erik Q.J.

      Yes, because buying currency is so difficult. It’s not like anyone can do it with the click of a button. Oh, wait… Actually, it is. All they need is a bank account not yet identified as connected to the Cuban government, and they can buy all the USD they want. They can even buy the USD with that “Russian funny money”.

      “Several million USD” is a tiny sum for any country, including the poorest. In aggregate, many such sums will impact the budget, but as a single expense it’s next to nothing. Besides, with jobs going to Cuban workers, much of the money will benefit the Cuban economy, and eventually the Cuban government.

      The lack of starving Cuban is due to good distribution of what wealth there is. It also makes one realize how well Cuban economy works, considering the economic warfare the US has waged on them.

      As for Cuban prisoners in Guantanamo, I suspect that Cuba may have perfectly adequate facilities on their own turf; why on Earth would they need to use Guantanamo?

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  • Asdp

    I sent an email to the EFF notifying them of Defense Attorney Paul Ticen’s participation in this Copyright Troll webinar and asked them to remove him from their defense resource page. I would encourage others to do the same.

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