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IMAGiNE BitTorrent Group Leader Sentenced To Five Years in Prison

The former leader of a now-defunct online movie piracy group has been handed a record-breaking prison sentence in the United States today. Jeramiah Perkins was described as the sysop of the BitTorrent release group IMAGiNE, a group that was busted by the FBI in 2011 following an MPAA investigation. Perkins will now serve five years in a federal prison, the longest sentence ever handed out in a case of this type.

In 2011 the notorious IMAGiNE movie piracy group was dismantled by the FBI. The group had been releasing large numbers of movies onto the Internet, many of them still playing in theaters, and this had attracted the attention of the MPAA who launched an investigation.

Members of IMAGiNE were arrested and charged with with several counts of criminal copyright infringement, and one by one they have been receiving their sentences.

In November 2012, Sean Lovelady of California, a moderator with the group, received a 23 month sentence. In the same month Willie Lambert of Pennsylvania, an administrator, received a 30 month prison sentence.

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An even tougher sentence was handed to 53-year-old group sysop Gregory Cherwonik of New York. He was jailed for 40 months by Virginia District Court Judge Arenda Allen and ordered to pay $15,000 in restitution to the MPAA.

At the time Cherwonik’s sentence appeared to be the harshest ever handed out in a case of this type, but court documents show that another IMAGiNE member, Brad Newell who “cammed” movies for the group, received a sentence of 48 months in 2010.

But even that hefty punishment was surpassed today with the sentencing of Jeramiah Perkins of Portsmouth, Va.

In the U.S. District Court in Norfolk, Perkins – a sysop with IMAGiNE – was sentenced to a record-breaking five years in federal prison and ordered to pay $15,000 restitution.

After his imprisonment ends Perkins will be subjected to a further three years of supervised release and will be banned from possessing “any electronic device with the capability or reproducing and distributing copies of copyrighted materials.”

Guidelines of between 70 and 87 months had mentioned in a December 2012 court memorandum. United States Attorney Neil MacBride eventually asked for 60 months, an amount matched precisely today.

“The nature and circumstances of defendant Perkins’ offense are serious, as he both organized and led the IMAGiNE Group – one of the largest and most effective organized copyright crime groups on the Internet,” MacBride wrote.

IMAGiNE as whole achieved their aim of being the group that first released many new movies on to the Internet, the attorney notes, and were responsible for 41% of all English language theatrical audio piracy from September 2009 to September 2011.

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MacBride said that Perkins was responsible for establishing IMAGiNE’s BitTorrent tracker, Unleashthe.net, registering domain names for the group, and carrying out numerous technical tasks such as encoding and syncing. He was also responsible for opening PayPal accounts to receive donations from Unleashthenet members and selling advance copies of new releases to “outsiders” in order to generate funds to keep the group going.

“Simply stated, defendant Perkins not only led and served as the chief executive officer of the IMAGiNE Group on a day-to-day basis for well over a year, but also proactively and regularly participated in the many tasks that were essential to the Group’s criminal objective — to release a steady stream of infringing copies of motion pictures and other copyrighted works.”

The five year sentence handed down to Perkins should be a deterrent to others engaging in similar conduct, MacBride adds, noting that it is appropriately longer than the sentences handed to lower placed members of the group who all “received credit for substantially assisting the United States in the investigation and prosecution of others.”

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  • Guess

    Jailing a non-violent man for 5 years,wow greedy pricks. Ha i’d like them to try to control file sharing in the next 5 years lol. They won’t be able to do shit.

    • EnAble

      and…..cue the trolls….

      • MPAA grow HATE

        You never know…. When shit like this happens. People get really fucking mad.
        Corporate interest >> public protection & People severally punished
        Disney’s perceived imaginary losses more important than woman being raped.

        The trolls may watch the fuck out. People are pissed.

        • Politicians/lobbyists/corps

          WHAT A CORPORATE CONTROLLED GOVERNMENT LOOKS LIKE

          Neil MacBride http://www.opensecrets.org/usearch/index.php?q=Neil+MacBride&searchButt_clean.x=26&searchButt_clean.y=18&cx=010677907462955562473%3Anlldkv0jvam&cof=FORID%3A11

          Revolving Door
          Lobbyist
          Obama Transition Team

          Period         Employer                                  Title

          2009- Office of the Attorney General       Associate Deputy Attorney General
          2001-2005 Biden, Joseph R Jr Chief       Counsel & Staff Director
          2001-2005 House Judiciary Committee   Counsel
          1999-2001 Verner, Liipfert et al
          1996-2001 US Attorney’s Office              Assistant U.S. Attorney
                          Business Software Alliance    General Counsel/VP Anti-Piracy

           

          The Software Alliance bragging about his appointment.
          http://www.bsa.org/country/news%20and%20events/news%20archives/en/2009/en-01222009-macbride.aspx
           
           
          The prosecutor is NOT PART OF A CORPORATE GOVERNMENT ?
          The new judge should have taken this into consideration.
          SERVE THE PEOPLE maybe ?

          Copied endlessly at no cost = worthless.
          Laws and punishment, to change the reality of reality, for. $$$ at our expense.
          How long do they think people are going to put up with this shit.

        • Fair…. Honestly

          The new judge should have taken this into consideration.

          On further looking, the judge was appointed by the senate with 93-0 votes.
          WOW… SUPER Bipartisan.

          The senators did receive a small amount of money from TV / Movies / Music.
          (2010) the same ones who voted the judge in.
          http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.php?ind=B02&recipdetail=S&sortorder=A&cycle=2010

          Media industry/government (via revolving door/lobbying/revolving door etc..)
          Elect judge.
          Prosecution is government (via revolving door/lobbying/revolving door etc..)
          Under those circumstances….
          iMAGiNE are lucky they didn’t get the death penalty (via GITMO)
           
           
          The really small list of really small amounts of money given in 2010.
           
           

          Boxer, Barbara (D-CA) $583,080
          Reid, Harry (D-NV) $513,300
          Schumer, Charles E (D-NY) $507,325
          Bennet, Michael F (D-CO) $370,416
          Gillibrand, Kirsten (D-NY) $366,841
          Leahy, Patrick (D-VT) $348,556
          Lincoln, Blanche (D-AR) $179,666
          Feingold, Russ (D-WI) $160,410
          Specter, Arlen (D-PA) $118,930
          Grassley, Chuck (R-IA) $111,150
          McCain, John (R-AZ) $106,872
          Thune, John (R-SD) $102,715
          Inouye, Daniel K (D-HI) $100,300
          Murray, Patty (D-WA) $98,416
          Isakson, Johnny (R-GA) $98,400
          Coons, Chris (D-DE) $97,100
          Franken, Al (D-MN) $91,150
          Casey, Bob (D-PA) $77,800
          Vitter, David (R-LA) $74,850
          Dorgan, Byron L (D-ND) $71,678
          Wyden, Ron (D-OR) $68,400
          Burr, Richard (R-NC) $67,150
          Feinstein, Dianne (D-CA) $58,150
          DeMint, James W (R-SC) $56,500
          Menendez, Robert (D-NJ) $53,150
          McCaskill, Claire (D-MO) $49,275
          Kerry, John (D-MA) $46,700
          Coburn, Tom (R-OK) $41,500
          Murkowski, Lisa (I-AK) $41,400
          Brown, Scott (R-MA) $41,155
          Hatch, Orrin G (R-UT) $37,300
          Manchin, Joe (D-WV) $34,200
          Crapo, Mike (R-ID) $33,500
          Klobuchar, Amy (D-MN) $33,200
          Rockefeller, Jay (D-WV) $31,000
          Nelson, Ben (D-NE) $29,000
          Shelby, Richard C (R-AL) $28,000
          Harkin, Tom (D-IA) $27,400
          Bennett, Robert F (R-UT) $23,600
          Mikulski, Barbara A (D-MD) $22,866
          Snowe, Olympia (R-ME) $22,500
          Graham, Lindsey (R-SC) $21,993
          Corker, Bob (R-TN) $21,750
          McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) $21,200
          Hagan, Kay R (D-NC) $21,000
          Tester, Jon (D-MT) $20,800
          Stabenow, Debbie (D-MI) $20,600
          Ensign, John (R-NV) $19,950
          Warner, Mark (D-VA) $19,550
          Cornyn, John (R-TX) $18,150
          Nelson, Bill (D-FL) $17,750
          Bayh, Evan (D-IN) $14,343
          Durbin, Dick (D-IL) $13,050
          Barrasso, John A (R-WY) $12,500
          Dodd, Chris (D-CT) $12,200
          Sanders, Bernie (I-VT) $11,550
          Udall, Tom (D-NM) $11,500
          Whitehouse, Sheldon (D-RI) $10,250
          Merkley, Jeff (D-OR) $9,500
          Brown, Sherrod (D-OH) $9,150
          Kyl, Jon (R-AZ) $8,500
          Wicker, Roger (R-MS) $7,750
          Cantwell, Maria (D-WA) $7,650
          Cardin, Ben (D-MD) $7,000
          Johanns, Michael O (R-NE) $6,500
          Webb, James (D-VA) $6,000
          Roberts, Pat (R-KS) $5,800
          Lautenberg, Frank R (D-NJ) $5,500
          Begich, Mark (D-AK) $5,000
          Lieberman, Joe (I-CT) $4,800
          Collins, Susan M (R-ME) $4,750
          Udall, Mark (D-CO) $4,375
          Baucus, Max (D-MT) $4,000
          Conrad, Kent (D-ND) $3,500
          Shaheen, Jeanne (D-NH) $3,250
          Hutchison, Kay Bailey (R-TX) $2,500
          Johnson, Tim (D-SD) $2,500
          Landrieu, Mary L (D-LA) $2,500
          Risch, James E (R-ID) $2,500
          Bingaman, Jeff (D-NM) $2,000
          Enzi, Mike (R-WY) $2,000
          Carper, Tom (D-DE) $1,400
          Alexander, Lamar (R-TN) $1,000
          Bunning, Jim (R-KY) $1,000
          Inhofe, James M (R-OK) $1,000
          Sessions, Jeff (R-AL) $1,000
          Pryor, Mark (D-AR) $250

      • Phuckit

        No need to cue the trolls he clearly used piracy for profit, none of this caring is sharing joke, but for money plain and simple. He deserves his sentence.

        • no way

          Motive was fame, by the looks of it,
          It’s irrelevant anyway. The punishment and who is doing the punishing, is the relevant thing in this case, and….
          NO ONE deserves 5 years locked up, for Disney’s imaginary profit loss.

        • Frunk

          I think he meant as in ‘cue the gloating trolls’.

        • xpmule

          piracy for profit ?

          did imagine have cd/dvd’s manufactured ?

          losses ?

          yeah imagninary

    • NastyKind

      How much will I get if I kill Ted Turner Or Chris Dodd accidentally?

      • Anonymous

        Try to fund your project on KickStarter. I bet there will be a lot of people funding it ! No im kidding (Am I ??)
        But more seriously, i suggest you to name it “Kill the MPAA” , because it’s sure that you wont be able to start a death treat project. lol

        • samlebon23

          You want to kill the MPAA? Don’t buy movies, don’t buy music and any shit they are protecting.

        • xpmule

          “You want to kill the MPAA? Don’t buy movies, don’t buy music and any shit they are protecting.”

          ..sounds good to me but you KNOW damn well they will then blame lack of sales on file sharing *even more than what they already are.

        • xpmule

          Kickstarter may actually have a roll in battling these corrupt organization s in the future.

      • MadAsASnake

        Couple of years, out in one…

        • Rezident_User

          No, there is no parole in the Federal system. He may get a few months off for good behavior, but that’s it. 4 years+ guaranteed.

      • OneEyedWillie

        Nothing if you kill yourself after!

        • Who

          did you know that there is a law on that to. if you attempt to kill your self they can prosecute you. and the reason for them doing so is they cant do shit to you if you are dead. so if you try to you better seceded. fucked up aint it?

          not that im for suicides tho.

      • Andrew Lee

        Well if I’m a juror I can guarantee my vote will be not guilty by reason of putting these assholes out of the “Internets” misery. :P

        • bedouin

          I wish I was in that jury so I could deadlock it and create a mistrial.

      • Killemall

        Hell, I’ll pay pal you 50 bucks right now for that. I’m sure MANY people would chip in.

      • If I’m The Judge…

        The Jury has found the defendant not guilty!

        Chris Dodd just died from natural causes and we mourn for his loss.

        When it’s over, you know it’s a great feeling… because we have accomplish part of the mission and that mission was to get to the truth.
        Verdict returned: Not guilty on all counts

        • Guest

          Plus it was an accident. Hoops!

    • dondilly

      I’m not sure what is worse, the ludicrously high unjust sentence at the MAFIAA’s bidding or the fact that US tax payers foot the bill for the investigation, trial and incarceration of these people. While the politians concerned line their pockets.

    • Anon

      Gotta love that fair and just american justice system.

      • xpmule

        sarcasm i’m guessing..

        but in all fairness its not just the USA that has issues.
        I live in CAN and things arn’t too much different north of the border.
        this is rather obvious if you read enough TF stories though ;)

  • Anonymous

    and the guy in the cell with him committed murder and got 30 months, out in 20 with good behaviour.

    how can any judge hand out sentences of this length for simply sharing files, and not be on the receiving end of some serious ‘encouragement’? what the hell have we as a society become when we allow a fucking ‘make believe’ industry become more important than the taking of a persons life? we are fast heading back to the days where you lost your arm because you stole a loaf of bread! and the Lord of the Manor lived in total luxury, whilst the rest of the people struggled to exist on a bowl of gruel and a cup of water, after working for 18 hours per day, 7 days a week!

    • Hi Im Kimchi Men

      “we are fast heading back to the days where you lost your arm because you stole a loaf of bread!”

      no we’re getting worse than those times, because we don’t even have to steal anything (just share it) to have our arms chopped off!

    • Werner T

      Its going to get worst in the USA since their corporate “Prisons for Profit” gets a larger foothold. They have already proven that judges and prosecutors are getting kickbacks for harsher penalties to fill these “Prisons for Profit”.

      • Frunk

        Short sighted locking people up.
        As jobs decline, crime increases.
        Locking more people away, increases number of people with a prison record.
        Prison record means they find it hard to gain employment.
        The government then has to pay them in benefits.
        Nobody can live well on benefits so people are more likely to re-offend.
        Lose-lose vicious circle.

        • Tom

          And so many people in prisons are doing the work that should be done by people outside, more profits for the companies, due to significantly lower wage bills, and more unemployment outside.
          As you said this creates more crime which increases the prison labour force etc.etc.

        • Common Man

          Also prisons tend to be ‘universities of crime’ – minor felons and innocents that go in encounter hardened criminals and recidivists, learn their techniques and methods, and they develop and share a hatred of the society that put them there.

      • samlebon23

        “Prisons for Profit”

        You mean American Gulags?

    • samlebon23

      “how can any judge hand out sentences of this length for simply sharing files”

      This is LES MISERABLES 2.

      • 7th_Guest

        And there, ladies and gentlemen, is in a nutshell why US Case Law circa 2012 is such a malformed, atrocious sight to behold: essentially nothing more than yet another unimaginative Hollywood sequel.

    • xpmule

      Reminds me of when the “Isle Of Man” had over 200 reasons for executions and one of them that was actually used was that a small boy was found with a silk hankerchief in the city market.. which was forbidden so they killed him.

      i couldn’t agree more with your comment i know for a fact some people get less time for Man Slaughter. which is murder when they can’t prove you intended to kill someone.

  • http://www.facebook.com/uglygoblinboy Mehaillien Thundercross

    When I worked at a Federal Halfway House a few years ago I met a man who served 7 years for 2nd Degree Murder. I am glad that the government is now ruled by the entertainment industry and is FINALLY putting the real criminals behind bars.

    • ProGrasTiNation

      You make a very good unintended point there sir…what i mean is without those sarcasm marks i could tell it was sarcastic but most of the sheeple would probably agree with your statement if the marks weren’t there!
      Our fight against these companies is a fight against people who have had the wool pulled over their eyes.

      • http://www.facebook.com/uglygoblinboy Mehaillien Thundercross

        Most people would agree with me simply due to the fact my avatar is a screen cap of the Doom guy;)

        • Kal

          Duke Nukem, my friend. Duke Nukem.

        • http://www.facebook.com/uglygoblinboy Mehaillien Thundercross

          Sorry dude, you should have replied 2 months ago when I was the Doom guy:)

    • crisp_p_bacon

      it is a shame you have to actually tap sarcasm onto your post as it spoils the overall effect, although i do understand that there are those among us….yes…those that fail to understand humor because god has not given them enough brain cells to know what a fruit fly does for a living

      • ScrewEwe2

        I think fruit fly’s work as border patrol agent’s but I could be wrong.

    • samlebon23

      I like your HTML post.

      • 7th_Guest

        Indeed; > ftw.

  • methamp

    I love how the courts use projected losses to throw a man’s life away for almost a decade (including the paper after release). This country makes me sick with its lawsuits and copyrights.

    • Guess

      Maybe they will let him out early for his extremely good behavior.

      • IDIOCRACY

        He should take the time in Prison to get his masters in copyright law in these 5 years, and when he gets out, be a defendants lawyer in copyright cases. His experience will help him and is free advertisement, even the experience in jail…it makes him an expert. He might actually teach all inmates about the copy-wrong system and educate them to boycot MAFIAA and how to legally use the fair user policy in their benefit. hehe

    • ScrewEwe2

      Tha’s like when they bust people for growing pot, they count the leaves, the stock’s, the roots and the stems in the total weight to compute street sale value, even though the flowering tops of the females are the only part usable as pot.

      • xpmule

        lol come on now.. most of us know you can brew some damn fine honey from all that “useless” part of the plants ;)

    • Anonymous

      exactly! the next step i suppose will be for bank robbers who steal a million dollars and get 50years in prison, not for stealing a million dollars but for stealing the projected amount of a hundred million dollars! then think of the sentence for killing one person, but projected killing of 100!

    • xpmule

      yup

      they were not making pirated cd’s for sale on the street corner or anything..

      file sharing losses are unproven and shouldn’t be used as evidence to charge a man let alone convict him..

      jail time for a theory.

  • Guest

    And despite this piracy will increase.

    • Wallace

      “And despite this piracy will increase.”

      What this guy was jailed for doing will likely decrease, but what the trolls and shills call “piracy” will increase.

      • chris_p_bacon

        imagine copies will be here…forever, and so i will share my copies unlimited times as long as i have them

      • Guest

        “What this guy was jailed for doing will likely decrease”

        Not even. Previous scene groups getting busted didn’t stop IMAGiNE from being born; IMAGiNE’s fate won’t stop new scene groups from being born.

        This was completely pointless. Ruining one guy’s life accomplishes jack shit except for getting people madder and more defiant towards the joke known as the U.S. “justice” system.

        • Wallace

          “Not even. Previous scene groups getting busted didn’t stop IMAGiNE from being born; IMAGiNE’s fate won’t stop new scene groups from being born.”

          Yeah, good point … I guess I was referring to his selling copies to people. I do think that people will be less inclined to buy digital copies in the future, regardless of who from.

        • xpmule

          Wallace

          how is that different than anyone selling a torrent site invite ?

      • samlebon23

        Funny, some of the best Hollywood movies are about pirates, either in the sea or on land. Captain Sparrow is presented to the people as a hero. I see Robin Hood as a pirate even though he’s not sailing. Why not create Internet or torrent pirates and accept them as heroes.
        Maybe the MPAA are expecting every citizen of earth to pay for their crap, 70 or 80 percent of the world has to work for a couple of days to afford a DVD or CD. They won’t and, and as American keeps promoting it’s products and way of life, the poor people would try every meas to get them.
        Just one thing, if Hollywood wants to jail people because they took away their properties, they should to invest their money (or their filthy rich friend’s) to build prisons, not the middle class who is burdened with war bills and conservatives’ expensive agendas.

  • John

    this is after the HUGE 10 billion $$$ take the movie industry is bragging about.

  • Robert

    HSBC is guilty of laundering billions of dollars in drug cartel money and all they got was a fine. Four years ago I had the audacity to hope for change.

    • 7th_Guest

      “Vision without action is a daydream; action without vision is a nightmare,” says a japanese proverb. Substitute Vision for Hope as appropriate and start thinking of ways to not spend the next 4 years sitting on your hands, but bring about some change along with your peers from within.

  • Joseph Biden

    Proud to be an American…cause at least I know I’m free*

    *free = 5 years in jail for sharing culture.

  • DNG

    He will be banned from possessing “any electronic device with the capability or reproducing and distributing copies of copyrighted materials”? WTF? So he won’t even be allowed to use a cell phone? For how long?
    The media mafia and the justice system make me sick.

    • CheeseThief

      he won’t be allowed to use a smart phone, a feature phone can do no such thing

      • CrackerJacker

        A ‘feature phone’ (aka a candybar phone) could do these things many years ago thanks to WAP, SMS, MMS and Bluetooth.

      • Guest321

        Unless we are talking about the 90s, even the most basic feature phone can copy a damn file.

  • Guest

    Arenda Allen deserve a death sentence for that.

    Sorry but this is my opinion.

    • OneEyedWillie

      It is not an opinion but a fact of what should happen to this corrupt judge. Burn in hell!

    • Biggus

      Dude, it isn’t the Judge’s fault. The whole country, the whole western world political system is based on private property and private profit. Certain uses of the internet threaten those property rights, so the system will respond with brutality. Like it did here. I personally think private profit is evil – because it can be legal to starve and kill people for profit, or to destroy the future habitability of the planet for the same reason. Pirating software or movies is just one part of the fight to – and I know how this sounds – to save our asses from ourselvess : i.e. species extinction boys and girls.

  • icec0ld

    Pretty horrifying when a convicted killer is getting a shorter sentence than the guy committing a victim-less “crime” and I do use the term crime rather sparingly here.

    Yeah. Great. Wreck someones life over something as inconsequential as piracy. That’ll solve everything. Oh wait, No it won’t. The Hobbit DVD just hit torrents every where. Nice job US courts. That’ll show em.

    At the very least the list of things you do to set back the human race gets longer and will hopefully lead to deal of historical shamming of the rampaging stupidity of a nation..

    • Kamiros

      On a funny side note, the people that made The Hobbit are sharing around pirated copies of it like it was candy; so even the people making the films lose out on profits from the extortionate prices. It’s just big business.

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    Prances pretty like a victory.

    But it achieves the opposite of what it intends.

    Some weak links will leave; especially within the US; but, plenty of talant with stronger knees and stronger backs will emerge; especially abroad, where Big American Monopolies are only as good as last week’s bribe.

    Eventually too many people will be asking the same right question, “Instead of criminalizing the universal digital transfer of Intellectual Property, why don’t we revise Copyright Law to exclude second purchase corporate digital distributors; to apply exclusively to Original Creative Artists; to apply for a very brief term, rather than perpetuity; and, to provide explicitly for a perpetual Public Domain, rather than the existing Perpetual Corporate Domain?”

    After all, what Human Being ever intended a Perpetual Corporate Domain in Human Intellectial Property?

  • AK47

    “United States Attorney Neil MacBride eventually asked for 60 months, an amount matched precisely today.”

    This one shall be erased too.

  • Guest

    Soon they will give us prison term for not buying their crap unless we kill them all right now.

  • 2600

    “Simply stated, defendant Perkins not only led and served as the chief executive officer of the IMAGiNE Group on a day-to-day basis for well over a year, but also proactively and regularly participated in the many tasks that were essential to the Group’s criminal objective — to release a steady stream of infringing copies of motion pictures and other copyrighted works.”

    On a related note, Perkins is slated as CEO of the newly formed IMAGiNE Studios LTD. Their first project, scheduled for release in 2018, is a comedy/crime thiller with an ensemble cast of nitwit FBI agents pitted against keen hipster hackers. It is rumored that Christopher Lloyd will play Neil MacBride with either Brad Pitt or Matthew McConaughey playing Jeramiah Perkins. Kevin Mitnick will handle distribution on 2600 screens worldwide.

  • Past Tense

    Reread this early post about how a rival group EP1C was probably responsible:
    http://torrentfreak.com/reports-feds-bust-imagine-movie-release-group-110913/

    • Loser

      we knew that. we ALL hope that they get karma bite them in the ass. pieces of shit

    • Guest

      I know Jeramiah personally, and EP1C was (from all I know) responsible. Call it jealously , envy, whatever…it has destroyed lives. I feel bad for all of them and Jeramiah’s kids. The punishment does not suit the crime

  • Loser

    what fucking horse shit. ped’s get less shit then that. the laws need to be changed. i hope he get a cut sentence.

  • Guest

    MUCH. FUCKING. LOVE.

  • Scruffydontwantnone

    Would they have done this to all of us Copying cassette tapes and making mixtapes off the radio ?

    • Wallace

      “Would they have done this to all of us Copying cassette tapes and making mixtapes off the radio ? ”

      In fairness, he was jailed for selling bootlegged copies, not copying or sharing, and selling bootlegs would have gotten you arrested back then too.

      • xpmule

        taking money for access to file sharing services in no more a crime than file sharing itself. Other wise more people would be getting arrested such as the domain registrars who setup imagines domains..

  • Roswell1701

    Unbelievable! Looks like the MAFFIA has a new poster child…

  • Baader Meinhof Complex

    Its time to stand up and spill some blood.
    Regardless of their billions, corrupt fbi and government officials backing they are mortal. they fear death. i guaranfuckingtee you- when in a week at least 100 MAFIA members are publicly executed , their offices and cars are blown up they will be singing different song.

    • 2013sUxAlready

      You know what I have been asking myself in the past 10 goddamn years of my life? WHY does NOBODY of these retarded sick fucks that go out and shot innocent people at gas stations in elementary schools in universities and workplaces… WHY don’t they head to the neares fucking MAFIAA palace and pop a few hollow point rounds in those fuckers? Why didn’t the Beltway sniper back in 2002 ambush rich white fucks? I mean the really rich white fucks. Why did NOBODY assasinate these menaces to society and progress yet? Is it that hard? Why do people fly PLANES into skyscrapers while these RICH fuckers make deals just to exploit the countries the terrorists stem from and then some? Why the hell can a president and then his brother get assasinated but these rich fuckers cant catch a bullet for ONCE in the existence of the human race? WHY THE FUCK? America is one of the most gun crazy countries in the world. Every goddamn nut has access to large caliber rifles that could take out a fucking tank. Let alone penetrate multiple windows and walls. I wonder what the fuck would happen if a sociopath storms into one of those hearings with all these corrupted ass villains in one room. Shoot the fuck out of their living carcasses and then spend the last bullet on himself. What would that change? Would the Elite THEN start to ban guns? Or would they still sit around with money liining their pocket and lie trough their teeth that guns dont kill people. Video games, Piracy and Drugs kill people …. BLAH BLAH.

      • 2013sUxAlready

        On a side note. Why in the FUCK did Brejvik the fucktard get life in prison on taxpayers money? Oh yeah right. He blew up a carbomb in the midle of the street that damaged nearby buildings and killed how many people? Then the shitbag racist motherfuck drove to a kiddycamp and went on a killing spree. Yup. Justice is being served right there folks. We live in glorius days. I cannot come up with a new word that could sum up my feelings and form a verbal fist capable of exterminating these individuals and everything they stood for. Can’t do it. They are lower than low. They are a fail 4 life. Epic-Epic fail. If I ever want to start a killing spree please someone show me a picture and the adress of one of those Mafiaa bosses. I make you proud.

  • Anon

    …Ah, it feels good to read news that makes you jizz in your pants. It’ll have to do while Nejtillpirater hogs the industry phallus under Daddy Pelouzey’s special desk.

  • Anon

    Punishment. Enjoy. Noose. Soon piracy.

  • http://twitter.com/JerkfaceMcGee Jerkface McGee

    “And what did you do?” The prison gang members stared at me, one waving his dirty glass shiv threateningly at my face.

    I gulped.

    “Copyright infringement.”

    I never saw them again.

  • Mr P

    Just for yucks, below are punishments for felonies here in the Great State of Texas, where we have something of a reputation for being “tough on crime”. For the sake of comparison, sexual assault is a Second Degree felony, aggravated sexual assault is a First Degree felony, intoxication manslaughter / regular manslaughter are Second Degree felonies, “simple” assault (ex: wife-beating) is a Class A misdemeanor, aggravated assault (ex: wife-beating with a baseball bat) is a Second Degree felony … note that oftimes people will plea bargain and get a reduced sentence. The Usual Disclaimers, I’m not a lawyer — but it’s shocking to hear about 5 year sentences being handed down for pirating.

    Sec. 12.32. FIRST DEGREE FELONY PUNISHMENT. (a) An individual adjudged guilty of a felony of the first degree shall be punished by imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for life or for any term of not more than 99 years or less than 5 years.

    (b) In addition to imprisonment, an individual adjudged guilty of a felony of the first degree may be punished by a fine not to exceed $10,000.

    Sec. 12.33. SECOND DEGREE FELONY PUNISHMENT. (a) An individual adjudged guilty of a felony of the second degree shall be punished by imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for any term of not more than 20 years or less than 2 years.

    (b) In addition to imprisonment, an individual adjudged guilty of a felony of the second degree may be punished by a fine not to exceed $10,000.

    Sec. 12.34. THIRD DEGREE FELONY PUNISHMENT. (a) An individual adjudged guilty of a felony of the third degree shall be punished by imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for any term of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years.

    (b) In addition to imprisonment, an individual adjudged guilty of a felony of the third degree may be punished by a fine not to exceed $10,000.

  • ThisIsLunatic

    Like all the other blood sucking nations in the history USA will go down and disappear nothing against its zombie, brainwashed people thou.. No matter how much they try to keep their “citizens” fat and happy and how much they try to kill and invade other countries to get their oil and create another fake Osama to get the worlds sympathy or bomb their own buildings and kill their own people .. That day will come!

    • bedouin

      It’s already here. This sentence is just one example of it.

  • Sandra

    Stealing is a crime when I am the victim. Otherwise, it deserves a medal.

    • Masau Fuku

      There was no theft taking place. Only imagined losses.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Do you mean “stealing” as in “making a copy of a neighbors CD”?

      Or was it stealing as in “robbing my neighbor of his car”?

      The former definition is not exactly correct and only used by people who on these forums advocate harsher penalty for making a copy than would be handed down for, say, rape (which is what happened in the iMAGiNE case above).

    • xpmule

      Reality is only useful when it suits my needs ?

      “There was no theft taking place. Only imagined losses.”

      no real physical products were made and sold using the cartels copyrighted works.

  • Who

    “MPAA who launched an investigation” since when has the MPAA been classified as an authority figure for so called federal crimes? shouldn’t this have said the FBI?

  • John Hooper

    Who the fuck watches these cams anyway?

    • bedouin

      I’ve seen a lot of people in the ‘hood’ selling cam copies of movies that are still out. I personally will wait months if necessary for a DVD release. Telesyncs can sometimes be *OK* though.

    • Masau Fuku

      I’ve only ever watched one cam. The quality wasn’t terrible considering it was a cam, but after watching I wished I had just waited for the DVD release.

    • ane92

      haha seriously. I always thought the same thing. Always thought it was funny that groups like these put their ass on the line to release such shit quality.

      There is a lot of money in this though. I see CAMs of new movies being sold all the time in flea markets and stores that sell pirated movies. They usually don’t advertise that it’s shit quality so I “IMAGINE” a lot of people buy them not knowing

  • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

    Nice start of 2013 although 5 years is very high. Anyway, after all these prison sentences the pirates will understand what happens and it’s their free choice to commit crimes sending them to prison. Personally I think that only complete morons would take that risk but it’s still a free choice.

    • Please Die

      You Sir, are a Pussy Ass Bitch.
      Thank You Very Much.

      • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

        Thank you very much Sir for being so polite.

        • Please Die

          I think I made you smile. :)

        • Jimmy671

          I’m not known for being polite so, Fuck You Troll.

        • xpmule

          Vaguely concealed Flaming gets you a “fuck you” not surprising..

          as usual you are here taking jabs at us file sharers and looking for stories like this so you can laugh at our misery.. you deserve more than that buddy !

          Ever heard the saying the simplest explanation is usually the correct one ?

          Your here to flame people like a Troll but you skirt around the issues *just enough so people can’t call you on it will you slip in nasty little jabs at victims and their supporters. You should be shamed of yourself for this comment and all the other similar one you have made..
          I hope you burn in hell or have karma rear its ugly head !

          ..have some class

        • tetridae

          Yes, and people will be very polite to copyright lawyers when assault is a cheaper crime than file-sharing is.

    • Moxueppx

      We FILESHARERS understand what happens in the United States of A-holes.
      Don’t you worry.

      Hell, you can buy your own judge with enough money and destroy people’s lives for imaginary crimes.
      I’m sure the citizens will be ecstatic to pay for these poor men jailtime the payed off judge imprisoned, along with the trillions of U.S debt.

      • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

        “I’m sure the citizens will be ecstatic to pay for these poor men jailtime the payed off judge imprisoned, along with the trillions of U.S debt.”

        No more ecstatic to pay for these men than for men committing other crimes.
        Piracy will only increase the U.S. debt.

        • BuddhaFacePalmed

          Wow, really? At a time where Hollywood just earned $10.8 billion dollars? Gee, where did all that money go? Into some studio executive’s year-end bonus and some politician Super PAC, I bet. Meanwhile, the 99% gets shafted for being “pirates” and not being born lucky.

        • icec0ld

          Piracy orientated lawsuits will increase the US debt.

          It’s an incredible waste of tax dollars incarcerating a man who has by no means, comitted a crime

        • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

          @BuddhaFacePalmed

          It’s in no way relevant how much they earned, wastage in the form of shoplifting or piracy is never OK no matter how much money that is earned from the honest/lawful customers.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “It’s in no way relevant how much they earned, wastage in the form of shoplifting or piracy is never OK no matter how much money that is earned from the honest/lawful customers.”

          Since there is no “wastage”, empirical data disproving the hypothesis of the lost sale, how can you justify your argument?

          You can’t, of course. Which is why you keep lying about piracy being akin to shoplifting and there being “wastage”.

          However, what there is a great deal of wastage of is taxpayer money. Since the members of iMAGiNE have no chance at all of repaying their fines, or likely even the court cost, the taxpayers have to come up with the cash instead.

          This is true in any of these cases, meaning that although the iMAGiNE members demonstrably have not cost anyone anything, the industry you stand in defense of here has equally demonstrably cost the taxpayers a great deal.

          Tell me, NTP, what is your argument in defense of the citizenry’s public purse being factually pilfered by the copyright industry?

    • Guest

      Filesharing: not a crime, anywhere.

      You: a perpetually lying MAFIAA fellatio artist.

      If there was any justice in the world Perkins would be a free man and the vocation of corporate plant would be punishable by firing squad.

      • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

        Filesharing and piracy are two different things, just like using a knife and killing.

        • anti-NEJ

          WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

        • Anon1

          So you’re saying file-sharers are not pirates?

        • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

          @Anon1

          “So you’re saying file-sharers are not pirates?”

          Sharing files is not against the law but sharing copyrighted files is against the law in most countries. So file-sharers may be pirates or not depending on what they’re sharing.

        • BuddhaFacePalmed

          True, yet you keep associating file-sharing and commercial piracy.

          File-sharing is non-commercial copying of a digital file that was bought and shared for free without cost.

          Commercial piracy is copying a digital file and selling it at a fraction of the the market price (btw is set by MAFIAA, not by the market itself).

        • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

          @BuddhaFacePalmed

          “File-sharing is non-commercial copying of a digital file that was bought and shared for free without cost.”

          No, file sharing is just sharing files and it can be done in many ways. Wikipedia on file-sharing:

          “File sharing is the practice of distributing or providing access to digitally stored information, such as computer programs, multimedia (audio, images and video), documents, or electronic books. It may be implemented through a variety of ways. Common methods of storage, transmission and dispersion include manual sharing utilizing removable media, centralized servers on computer networks, World Wide Web-based hyperlinked documents, and the use of distributed peer-to-peer networking.”

          You have a very personal definition of file-sharing. File-sharing can be against the law even if it’s not for commercial purposes. Also note that it’s becoming more and more common to use the phrase “commercial scale” instead of “commercial use”. A typical pirate downloading thousands of songs or movies doesn’t earn money but saves money that can be spent on other things, and still being able to use the files in the same way as a person that has paid for them.

        • BuddhaFacePalmed

          “A typical pirate downloading thousands of songs or movies doesn’t earn money but saves money that can be spent on other things, and still being able to use the files in the same way as a person that has paid for them.”

          Isn’t saving money to spend on other stuff a good thing?? Money that instead of spending on overhyped movies like “Battleship, Total Recall, or The Hangover 2″ can be used for food, clothing, and everything else. Economics 101, beeetch

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          So we have graduated from the “copyright infringement is theft” argument to one which compares it to killing instead?

          The proper response to being found a liar, NTP, is not to respond and counter with an even bigger lie.

        • Guest

          has anyone ever told you.. what you’ve been BRAINWASHED

        • Jimmy671

          I missed your point Troll.
          Say again,this time in English.

          i

    • Guest321

      Thank goodness not everyone obeys the government diktats and unjust laws like blind sheeple or else black people would still be working as slaves today. Society needs people with more than two brain cells (unlike you) to not be brainwashed by government/corporate propaganda and stand up for what they believe in to effect changes. Change will happen, it might take a 100 years but history has proved time again that unjust regimes never last when the people decide to take matter upon their own hands.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      NTP, at what point will you realize that prison sentences and harsher laws do not work as a deterrence?

      Because, quite frankly, there is already a very impressive rap sheet to look at since the napster days and so far the only thing we see is that people will continue to make copies and pass them on, irrespective of what the law says.

      We even have precedents back in medieval france when 16,000 deaths and mandatory beheadings for violating silk pattern monopolies were rigorously enforced. Even then, in an age where it was explicitly believed you would be eternally damned for violating the royal decree, Intellectual Property could gain no respect.

      Every case made such as this accomplishes one thing only. It drops the number of people willing to stand on your platform by a lot. This is a tragedy for two parties – the iMAGiNE members and your own side.

      For the pirate movement as such, this does no harm.

    • jeffer

      Thomas Cranmer was burned alive by “Bloody Mary” as heretic March 21 1556.

      Did that stop Protestantism?

      Kevin Barry an 18 year old Irish rebel was hanged by the British November 1 1920.

      Did that stop the rebels and Irish independence?

      The supposed deterrent on the contrary just acted as mobilizer for the very movement they tried to wipe out.

    • Baader Meinhof Complex

      you just wait. we will be executing you all on the streets by the end of 2013 if the trend of unlawful persecution continues.
      you can cry police all you want.
      you will fucking die. and you wont even see it coming.

    • xpmule

      “pirates will understand what happens” ???

      the problem with that is law itself is not clear and fair so how do we know what we are getting into ?
      we are dealing with a system that hides in the shadows and that tries to create laws by lining politicians pockets with money in an effort to support a dying business model.

      One huge fat pig is not getting their usual bloated feed and are trying to desperately trying to get their money anyway they can.. and they will take down anyone or anything to get it.. like a crack whore selling mom’s jewelry.

      Plenty of risk getting killed driving a car but many seem to do it anyway ..but i think they are morons etc etc

      I thought we were gonna work on the logic for 2013 Nej ?
      Its still as flawed as ever from where I’m sitting lol

    • 2013sUxAlready

      Let me take my right on expressing my oppinion while I still have it and shove a big slice of FUCK YOU down your throat you goddamn fascist faggot troll. How come you find the time to type up some retarded slave philosophy AND sucking your Fuhrers dick while you’re at it? Must be a talented lil’ fella. 2013 started like diarrhea and you are the toilet paper I use to wipe it with. Other than that: These people will be seen as the martyrs of today. Together with millions of other sharers and other anti-copyright activists they put their time and effort into crippling this greedy system and showing it’s flaws by challenging it with new technology.
      Copyright monopolies are bad and it is about goddamn time the population got that into their heads. We also get to see the amount of influence the big media corporations have on our judicial systems and global policies not to mention NEWS media and journalism. It is INSANE to sit there and defend the actions of these courts just because it is LAW. What if we manage to change the LAW in the next 3 years. Can the guy expect to get reprieved after wasting 3 years of his life? For stepping on the toes of hollywood? Boohoo. Go read “Mein Kampf” again and then furiously masturbate to pictures of Mr. Dodd your saviour. Oh and btw. Nobody gives a fuck about what you think :D

    • tetridae

      Yeah. Now it’s “cheaper” to assault people than to do the time for a copyright sentence. Very nice and peaceful society you are proposing… :)

  • Cable Guy

    HOLY SHIT! Cablevision NY just updated their cable user interface!
    Is this part of the upcoming six strikes conspiracy? Hmmmm.

  • chris_p_bacon

    appeal

  • Lox

    5 years only , wtf , he deserve not less than death sentence after being tortured for few months. he did the worst crime ever .
    please someone send me to another planet

    • Anon1

      You’re a dumbass.

    • Jimmy671

      Sarcasm,I hope.

  • SATAN

    Fuck the government! Long live piracy!!

  • 1hhh1

    Can not find any info on their finances,did they,imagine,do it for money?

    • busted

      “private financial gain” under § 2B5.3(b)(4) and 17 U.S.C. § 1011 in the form of his receipt of
      thousands of pirated copies of copyrighted works, which he obtained without paying for such
      items.

      Thats the profit made from this. Corporate Laws in a Criminal Court.Extorting artists and motion picture companies to pay off Legislatures to get Laws passed, people put into the right places(judges and prosecutors), and buy themselves a security force (HLS). The funniest thing about this is the fact that the last home invasions the US Gov made were on the week of 911 when there was credible evidence that a terror event was going to happen. So if that was so why would they tie up 30+ agents for some pirates. The whole US Gov is a scam. I’m just waiting for the day that the people figure this out and revolt. I hope it happens soon.

  • Hogspace

    Were they making money out of this enterprise?
    If so, reasonable. If not entirely unjustifiable.
    Simples.

  • GODBLESS

    And like most people on here, no one will remember this guy when he gets released from prison. 5 years bunkbedding with a Bubba is a LONG time!! Fucked…

    Like most people would say “thanks for nothing”, right?

  • Thom

    The judges should be hung by their balls, and their family burn in hell for eternity.

  • ddasas

    5 years for being a sysop of a piracy group.

    You get less time in prison for physically beating someone to near death.

  • Heh

    Someone sharing a movie, 5 years, where drunk drivers and rapists get less in today’s world. I honestly hate this world at times.

    • Christopher Kidwell

      Well, rapists usually get less because, all in all, rapists are very unlikely to reoffend in the real world because they are 90%+ of the time drunk/drugged at the time they do that.

      That is specifically what a prosecutor who I was talking with IRL told me flat out and he had numerous studies that he referred me to supporting that.

  • Guest

    Fuck you MAFIAA.

  • Dsadqewqryt

    ah feels sorry for him. He was serving the lot of us. He probably didn’t make a dime for himself. IMAGINE did a lot of good.

  • Christopher Kidwell

    Again, more than most murderers get. This is getting seriously ridiculous here, at most there should have been a fine and 2 weeks in jail.

  • Ray

    There is a difference between sharing and selling. If you choose to cross that line, you need to understand your going to pay a price. And I agree with that. Its about sharing not profiteering.

  • Past Tense

    It’s wrong to compare this to rapes and murder. Instead it should be compared to white collar crime. For example there was massive fraud in the mortgage industry costing the country hundreds of billions of dollars–yet have any of these people gone to jail?

  • nightspydk

    I’d like to see the precise nature of the offense of which the man was convicted.

    My thoughts go out to this group that made me a happy man on many an occasions. :( :D

  • Peter Chylewski

    So the guys went into a cinema, right? Bought a ticket. Went into the hall, sat down. Waited for the movie to begin. They had brought a (legally bought, I presume) camcorder or similar device, which they pulled out of their pocket or bag and, before the movie had even started, pointed into a particular direction – that of the screen in front of them I guess – and pushed a button on it. After the movie was over, I guess they went home, took a little piece of plastic out of the thing and stuck it into to their (legally bought, I presume) personal computer, to then make the bits stored in the little piece of plastic available to others on the internet. Right?

    “Bah, what a mindnumbingly boring story this is,” I might say, “it lacks all of the classic ingredients one expects to find in even the lamest of thrillers!” Where’s the victim? The crime? The poison? The corpse? The smoking gun? The hunt?

    - “Ah,” you will tell me, “it was all there, I saw it!”

    - “Where?”

    - “In the movie, of course!”

  • ane92

    I see some people trying to compare this to violent crimes or other crimes where some people get a smaller sentence. Keep in mind this is the FIRST time someones gotten a sentence this long for this, it’s not like it’s the norm. And this case wasn’t the norm either.

    These guys did this on a large scale knowing it was illegal and they could face prison time. That was their choice and their choice only. For that I don’t have much sympathy.

    Anyway…. in reality it’s not likely this guy will do 5 years. He will be in a min security prison playing ping pong, watching movies, etc etc for about 2-3 years then most likely be released.

    Yes I agree non-violent people shouldn’t go to prison usually. To be fair though he’s going to a non-violent prison. Also this is a crime he did over and over and over and over again on a large scale.

    Sometimes you gotta think and use your head. These guys didn’t, what if they have families or jobs, both might now be ruined because of the actions they chose to take.

  • Freeasabird

    so the guy likes to be a pirate and gets jailed for it for 5 years! what a moron

    • xpmule

      Nelson Mandella ?

      plenty of people do time for their rights / to make a point.

      yours is rather dumb lol

      Pirate ? no
      I don’t think he was in any movies like pirates of the Caribbean
      nor was he hijacking boats on the high seas..

      File sharing is often organized otherwise who are gonna share with ?
      So if they have a group that is a crime ? lol sure.. gimme a break

  • Anon

    I am amazed at the greed and avarice of the posters here. You have no respect for the rights of others. And the names you call your victims show that you are simply bad human beings.

    • xpmule

      You are a flamer and a troll and your comment is 100% proof !
      You should be ashamed of loitering around here to spit on the victims of file sharing.

      I wonder how big your mouth would be if every person that comments was in the same room lol

      There would be a blood bath to see who get first crack at stepping on your throat.. i guarantee the body would be unrecognizable lol
      Teeth and bones stomped into a blood mush !

      Just be glad you can take shots at people and hide behind your computer you coward..

      I’d gladly take another assault with a deadly weapon causing bodily harm charge to get my steel toes painted red !

      Supporting terrorism makes you the bad one not “us”
      your a hypocrite and lier and i hope you enjoy the fact we all laugh at you and keep doing what we are doing..

    • Kiwibird

      The others in question have stupid amounts of wealth already. The company that actually make these films get a very slim slice of the pie. Even the film studio’s staff pirate films from their own company because they can’t afford it.

  • Robin_masters

    Cute named, after a Beatles song

  • ToKinGarg

    “What are you in for?”
    I ran a criminal organization.
    “Guns, drugs?”
    No, pirated movies.
    “Your copy of madea goes to jail sucked, spread your cheeks”

  • PelouzeTF

    Arrrgh mateys, i be walkin the plank

  • Jsddsu

    $13 dollars for a movie ticket, $15 for pop corn and soft drink for a total of $28 for a approx. 90 min of most of the time crappy intertainement, actors living in mulimillion dollar mantions and drinking 10k bottles of crystal…. yeah who are the real criminals ?

  • Advent

    Hey everyone, I speak for myself, but I’m sure most of you would agree – I have been enjoying IMAGiNE’s releases for years, and a hefty chunk of my library has their stamp. I do not sell, nor otherwise profit from other people’s creations, and thank god I live in a country, where that’s not yet illegal. What I’m here to say is this: We all have downloaded these guys’ work and haven’t paid a cent for it, so I don’t think it’s fair that they do. I ask you to pledge an amount you think is fair and create a fund, protecting these people from the government’s blatant disregard of people’s basic freedoms, tomorrow it may be you. I would start a project on Kickstarter, but, unfortunately, only US residents are allowed to do so. Anyone?

  • FREEE

    Die pirat!

  • I<3IMAGiNE<3RiP

    The reason he got 5 years because he was caught up capping audio in front of a movie theater before. This makes his second offence getting caught commiting piracy. (btw that would be spunky although he has several different names in the torrent world) stash didn’t keep the money anonymous as it should have been, and I told them to fuck that canadian server but everyone was doing it. RIP Imagine and UtN you will be missed. I know that iTpHo3NiX, jason, stuffies, and a few others never got caught up in this mess and made it away. Not sure what aliases they’re going by these days… <3

  • Drama

    As sad as it is. They got caught at the wrong time. If this happened 5 yrs ago it wouldn’t be this harsh. This whole thing with piracy really started getting out of a control and they wanted to prove a point and create all this drama along with it. Groups have been dismanteled before, big groups but it was never this harsh.

    On the upside, I can you from experience federal lockup is like hawaii compared to DOC. Federal lockup isn’t what people imagine it is on crimes like this .I mean you’re still locked up but you don’t really have to worry about getting your shit pushed in, although once in a while you have to knock some heads., you’re locked up with crooked governors, hackers, fraud,They’ll do less then half of the sentence get parolled do 6 months of house arrest and the rest of the time on parol

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  • ThePirate@FuckTheFEDS.org

    Neil MacBride = PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT.
    FUCK YOU AND THE FEDS

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