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IMAGiNE BitTorrent Group Sysop Speaks Out as He Heads to Prison

A convicted member of the now-defunct online movie piracy group IMAGiNE has left a public statement before starting his 40-month prison term. Last Friday 53-year-old sysop Gregory Cherwonik of New York was transferred to a detention facility to serve his sentence. In his first public words on the case he criticizes the MPAA and the U.S. Department of Justice, among others.

In 2011 the notorious IMAGiNE movie piracy group was dismantled by the feds. The group was known for releasing large numbers of movies onto the Internet, many of them still playing in theaters.

This attracted the attention of the MPAA who launched an investigation which eventually led to the arrests of four U.S. residents.

These IMAGiNE members were charged with several counts of criminal copyright infringement and they eventually received prison sentences ranging from 23 months in prison up to five years.

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Among the sentenced is 53-year-old IMAGiNE sysop Gregory Cherwonik, mentor of a robotics team from Canandaigua. According to his sentencing papers Cherwonik was transferred to prison last Friday, but not before speaking out on the case for the first time.

TorrentFreak received a series of documents from an email address that appears to belong to the 53-year-old IMAGiNE member. While our requests for clarification remained unanswered, we have good faith belief that they are indeed Cherwonik’s writing.

The full documents are available here and appear to have been written at different times, both before and after his sentencing early January. Below we’ll go over some of the statements the sysop makes.

“Well if you’re reading this, I guess I must be in Jail,” one note starts.

“Spunky here … most of you know me by my real name Greg Cherwonik, thank you DOJ for splattering that on the internet. I’ve got a few parting comments to make before I slip into the shadows of prison life.”

Cherwonik goes on to explain that he never made any money from his work at IMAGiNE or their UnleashThe.net BitTorrent tracker.

“Serving time for copyright infringement, a victimless crime that I never made a single dollar off of. In fact over the years I bet I paid a thousand or so in site donations and server costs, not even including the time I spent doing code work for a dozen or so places,” he writes.

The IMAGiNE sysop further mentions that in his opinion the case should have been a civil one, and he doesn’t see why copyright infringement is a federal offense.

“Pirating a federal offense? It’s beyond me how this has happened. Federal offenses were always the most serious of crimes. You tell me how copying a little audio or video has fallen into this category.”

He goes on to blame copyright groups for influencing legislation in their favor.

“I guess if you pay off enough politicians and ‘give’ so many millions to [the] right law enforcement agencies you can get anything you want. Throw in a couple high paid lawyers to twist the words of the Patriot Act around, and viola …. PIRATING is a Federal Offense.”

Consequently, the maximum penalty of 5-years prison is too harsh according to Cherwonik.

“It’s bad enough they call you a terrorist in front of your kids (I think it’s their way of justifying it), but then there’s the 5 year MAX for the first offense. WTF is that, you’re telling me a person with no previous criminal convictions can get up to 5 years for releasing a movie.”

Concluding one of his notes the sysop says that his involvement in IMAGiNE and UnleashThe.net was not worth the time he has to spend in prison now. He learned a lot from the experience, but perhaps lost even more as it is unlikely that he can continue his mentor work when he’s released.

“As for my incarceration. Was it worth it? NO.”

“Nothing is worth losing your freedom, would I do it again … hmmm I don’t know. I learned so much from it. Without it I wouldn’t have learned HTML and PHP. Both of which I use on the website I made for the Robotics teams I used to Mentor. They probably won’t want a felon to Mentor the kids.”

“Too bad, I really enjoyed working with them.”

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  • No

    Corrupt pigs.

    • dondilly

      Govs keep using anti terror hype to justify increasing erosion of rights and legal safeguards.

      What the hell are they going to do if they ever find these elusive terrorists as at this rate the federal prisons will be stuffed full of non violent infringers of an outdated statute.

      • Guest

        Use French justice…no survivors.

        • Nasty

          I am going to do Chris Dodd. Let see how much we get.

        • xpmule

          they do.. watch the movie Zero Dark Thirty..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/V6MAVVVBC23RLJZLHBV3YA3ABY Rutherford

        So, when will the 6 strikes go into effect?
        Will we even know?

        • Who

          IF it ever goes in to effect. that dam thing has been delayed so many fucking times I have lost count. its just another scare tactic. I found some information on ALL the scare statics used to avert copyright infringement BUT I have lost it. /cry…….it explains what the US DOJ/RIAA/MPAA is trying to do to bypass laws and stop P2P sharing. the 6 strikes is apart of it.

        • GruR

          Once again, USA gov. is the number 1 terrorist in the world.

      • bobmail

        “Govs keep using anti terror hype to justify increasing erosion of rights and legal safeguards.”

        Do tell. Which one of your rights is eroded by having movie pirates arrested?

        • xpmule

          the part where its a federal crime..

        • icec0ld

          It being Federal crime offense.

          This is so obviously a civil one that it is not even funny. The case has clearly been pushed to this level solely for the purpose of the highest possible punishment.

        • Colin Carr

          Given that the US government seems to have decided that citizens don’t have any rights, you could just about argue that none of these non existent rights have been violated.

          However, the Declaration of Humn Rights drafted after WW2 in an effort to prevent the rise of fascism again, takes the view that citizens of all nations have rights, for instance to privacy, to the presumption of innocence, and so on.

        • cgp

          Right to representation. Right to a fair trial. And while “fair punishment’ isn’t enshrined as a right — it’s certainly being violated here.

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

          Free speech. I think you might be able to find it in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

          http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml

          Article 19.

          Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. (emphasis mine)

        • Sam

          killing in cold blood == pirate a movie

          ps – jails are going to be filled with teens!

      • http://twitter.com/fedxc Federico

        The US society is going to reveal sooner or later, rise in arms and make justice with their own hands. I hope I’m still alive to see it happen.

        • Nasty

          You got that right. Revenge is hardwired in our brain and the gov killed Aaron so now it is our turn.

    • Randy Lahey

      Im afraid it’s worse than the article describes. He’s being housed here: USP Lewisburg – The United States Penitentiary (USP) in Lewisburg is a high security facility housing male inmates. An adjacent satellite prison camp houses minimum security male offenders.

      • Guest

        Of course he is!
        They want you to hear how Bubba rape him to death.
        Now, tell me, wouldn’t that put you off copying anything ever again?

        • Guest

          Look troll. Copying is sharing information, sharing is part of humankind. It doesn’t matter if someone forces it to be “illegal” or “morally wrong”.

          SHARING IS CARING

          AND YOU CAN’T STOP IT

          MAFIAA AND BIG BROTHER

        • Andyman

          And it is raped. Moron. God damn I get tired of people using the wrong tense and the wrong word. If you can’t speak correctly STFU. I get a headache reading shit wrongly worded and punctuated. And since you have nothing constructive to say I’m beating you down.

        • JordanKratz

          No !!!
          MAFIAA Lick Dog Asses and Politicians get Sloppy Seconds !

          Just for you I will Download some krap MAFIAA Film and when it arrives on my Rig I was just chuck it into the Recycle Bin.

      • Me

        So sad that we see yet another example of the USA flexing it’s muscles to their own detriment.

      • JordanKratz

        I was in Lewisburg ! I got a 7 year bid in 1988 for Cocaine Trafficking and was Sentence to Lewisburg.
        Real Drag for him going there.He will be with some real Criminal Types there but it is easy to make friends if you know the talk.

    • bobmail

      Yeah, thankfully that corrupt pig is going to jail.

      • icec0ld

        Pig is a term given commonly to police but in this case has been given to authority figures in general.

        So this comment is pointless and needlessly confusing.

      • GruR

        You got it wrong, the corrupt people are not going to jail,
        they’re writing the laws in USA right now.

      • Cmokwjvu

        I don’t get it.

        Did mafiaa put an ad asking specifically for stupid fucks and you showed up?

        There’s no other explanation for your comment.

      • JordanKratz

        We should be locking up schmucks like you and letting you out of your whole to do our slave work.

      • Jimmy671

        “”Yeah, thankfully that corrupt pig is going to jail.”"

        A corrupt MAFIAA Troll like you,has the audacity to call someone
        a corrupt pig.
        Now that is so funny I nearly pissed myself.

      • Jmorse43508

        Takes one to know one, troll.

    • Xpex

      Obama is selling gov power to the rich. this is repeat of what he had done for Wall street fraudsters

    • JordanKratz

      Agreed ! A Big Fuck You to the MAFIAA and the US Government.

    • Xsile

      Get used to seeing this a whole lot!

      In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 3 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org.

      Hollywood is against censorship when it suites them but all for it in any other case! Fuck you RIAA and DCMA Fascist pigs!

  • http://twitter.com/Mephistorium Ghaith B.

    I really respect and admire people who stand up for their beliefs, Syspop you’re the man!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

    Sorry you got caught. Keep your spirits up, you’re a hero in a war for our freedoms. And not only that, you brought a lot of happiness to those who watched.

    • xpmule

      too bad he didn’t escape he could make videos and release them to Algezera TV station like Osama Bin Laden did.. rallying his troops etc

      • Colin Carr

        But even with Bin Laden, you have to ask what turned an incredibly rich Saudi kid into a raving mass murderer. He claimed it was the presence of ‘infidel’ Western troops in Saudi for the 1st Gulf War.

        But could some (or even most) of those troops behaved so arrogantly, even brutally, towards the local people – as in Iraq from 2003 onwards – that Bin Laden decided money wasn’t everything? I don’t know.

        I don’t want to justify his actions, but to understand how the West may have turned him against Western ‘values’ which even I can see are corrupt beyond belief, not to mention unsustainable.

        • Me

          If he really existed. USA needed a convenient boogieman

        • xpmule

          I’m shocked and impressed you brought that up !
          I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone on the internet bring that up.
          which is pretty fucking sad.. most dumb American twats think it all started on 911.
          I don’t know a lot but i was able to learn a lot by taking 5 minutes of my time and looking at like 1 or 2 web sites which i take it is far too much effort for teh American population (they want to believe they are innocent)
          They created a monster right from teh start when they funded his terrorist army to fight Russia and eventually that army was turned in the USA because of America’s foreign policy etc ..such as things like the Saudi occupation. I heard OBL was enraged that Americans were occupying the 2 holiest sites in their religion kind of like terrorists taking over the vatican and saying fuck you Christians its ours now.

          I have no doubt my fellow Canadians are dumb about the whole terrorist story but its not our job to know we’re not America and we’re not trying to invade countries and we havn’t been hunting OBL since close to 1990.
          This might seem like a lot of bs i’m saying but it relates to America creating a monster and then playing stupid games about it.

          And KDC is getting the whole martyr business too lol
          The Americans never learn
          ..they can’t they are too cocky conceded and suffer from extreme delusions of grandeur.
          if they were such obnoxious over bearing assholes i would probably feel sorry for them.
          You make your bed now sleep in it.

        • WTF

          Just to add a little to your post xpmule, the whole middle east pretty much got fucked up by the states the first time they started supporting dictators for their own gains. Just look at how Sadam gained power and what excuse the us used to give it to him and take it away. The whole afghan/iraq war is just going to forster more and more terrorism in the long run but noone seems to care about that as long as the US win.
          I might be a bit harsh on the US as they are not alone in this at all but to be honest wtf have any of the US military actions since WW2 gained the world in general? i’m not saying that they were wrong to take action when things were bad but to invade every time something is not they way things are supposed to be is just fucked up. The only result is that the US have alienated 60% of the worlds countries and most of the remaining 40% really dont like the US but are smart enough to recognice the folly of going against their wishes.
          And now that normal war is getting a bit stale and commen to everyday life well lets start a copyrightwar on our own people and call the terrorists for sharing a movie….
          Capitalism is ok up to a point but we passed that point a long time ago and noone really cares.
          where are the protesters from the 60′s when we need them??

        • Zebra52

          You are a complete moron. There is NO justifiable excuse for killing all of those Americans on 9-11. The idiots come out of the woodwork on these comment sections.

        • trinsic

          One look at Osama and you can tell he is not a killer. Too me it looks like a false flag operation.

  • Guest

    this is an outrage!

    • Guest

      I hope what that prosecutor will chop his balls off and die

      • xpmule

        i hope someone near the tipping point puts a truck load of fertilizer in front of the prosecutors house or a letter bomb in the pricks mail box.
        People get killed for far less.. i know a guy who killed a guy in an argument at a bar so wanting to pay this asshole back for public slander and 5 years in jail sounds reasonable to me..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/V6MAVVVBC23RLJZLHBV3YA3ABY Rutherford

    life is suffering.

    • Neils

      Ernest my boy, you sound bohr’ed

  • Guest

    That sucks. But you CAN learn HTML5 and PHP by doing a website about flowers or history or something.

    • Kevin Grech

      Yea, maybe in 20 years you’ll catch up to the whole language.

    • Guest

      Yeah. Maybe become an expert too. Perhaps invent a transfer protocol which speeds up and distributes the load in such a way that world communication is enhanced by an order of magnitude…then get arrested when you publish and it’s used for ‘nefarious’ purposed as defined by an overzealous authoritarian state.

      Then you can rot. Because you’ll get no help from anyone. Because all the power and all the laws are stacked against you. Because they were bought, years ago, in a pre-emptive initiative specifically targeted to curtail freedom to exchange information.

      This has nothing to do with copying things. This war is about freedom to communicate digital information. Soon, ANY information deemed unfit.
      Specifically, any information ‘owned’, considered ‘sensitive’, ‘insensitive’, ‘suspicious’, or ‘inciteful’ will be enough to censor almost anything, anywhere.
      But your right, flowers or history should be fine: just don’t copy/paste anyone else’s pictures or plagiarise any books.

      • Guest

        It’s a war about information. Controlling the Internet is the ultimate goal.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

      Yeah, but you can’t do it while defending a fundamental human right while being hunted by an international mafia supported by the most powerful governments in the world.

  • Ghhhhh

    good and generous man who makes thousands happy every day and is not asking for anything in return? Send him to jail!

  • Sharer For Life

    I don’t care what an asinine judge, The Department of Justice, Hollywood, or ICE thinks about it. In my mind, GREGORY IS INNOCENT.

    Non profit motivated sharing with others should never be criminalized in society. If copyright forces this mentality in society, then it is clearly wrong. He is given a FIVE YEAR sentence??….for sharing films??This is the ugly face of laws that have egregiously overstepped the boundaries of reasonableness and decency. This sounds like the sort of sentence given to you if you were living under fascism or some other form of authoritarianism. In judgements such as this, America proves itself not to be a constitutional republic, but a corporatocracy and a plutocracy.

    Shutting down IMAGINE or unjustly sentencing Gregory WILL NOT hinder filesharing one bit. We PROUDLY continue.

    I wish Gregory and his family all the best.

    • F3dd

      His lack or claimed lack of profit doesn’t matter much, money is made off of his torrents.

      If he was too stupid to realize that perhaps it explains why he is going to jail

      • Idiots everywhere

        So what does the MAFIAA get for being too stupid to make money off of all these P2P dollars you claim exist?

      • xpmule

        People make money from bottled water whats your point ?

      • Who

        like I have told another user….you might want to read the US copyright act before you say he was in the wrong.

  • Who

    “ABUSE OF POWER”,break the US constitution AND the set regulations defined in the US copyright act to just stop something you see as a wrongdoing.

    YES I am implying YOU ….DOJ/FBI/MPAA. its no different than local county law enforcement abusing there power.

    • Kevin Grech

      Down with people with power! Share the power you filthy egoist pigs!
      Down with Hollywood!

      • Who

        “Share” I don’t think that’s in there vocabulary.

        • Kevin Grech

          Amen to that.

        • Anon

          “their”

        • Jimmy671

          @Anon

          “their”

          Unlike you ,the rest of us don’t claim to be perfect.
          Why not keep your spelling corrections to yourself.

  • Godspeed Mr.

    And people will unfortunately forget about this guy; not now, but perhaps in a year or two.

    Nothing is worth losing your freedom over, so I respect and admire this guy for what he did. Most of you assholes in here don’t appreciate and call out for “pussy”, “faggot”, “chicken shit” etc. when a tracker goes down due to the fear of Fed investigation.

    Have some respect…None of you fucks are serving 5.

    • twat

      idiot

      • Idiot

        Twat

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/V6MAVVVBC23RLJZLHBV3YA3ABY Rutherford

          Nattering Nabobs of Negativity

        • NatteringNabobsofNegativity

          Rutherford

      • Godspeed Mr.

        Just speaking the truth here. You aren’t going to remember him, let alone support him via donations when he gets out in 5 years and has to be unemployed / jobless because he was serving you with hours of entertainment. You aren’t there to scratch his back in the time of needs, so for a “twat” comment, kindly “fuck off” and come back with a better one.

        Being realistic here.

        • xpmule

          support him ?

          what does that have to do with anything ?

          and yeah many of us will remember him your full of shit..

          i know a guy who was in a scene group with me that was arrested by the FBI and i will never forget the guy nor will anyone that i mention his name too.. if i said his name i would get a 100 replies saying yeah i know that guy..

        • Hugatoilet

          “many of us will remember him your full of shit.”

          How nice to be remembered by someone too stupid to spell “you’re.”

        • Godspeed Mr.

          @xpmule: How sincere of you to give him worthless thoughts. Again, you aren’t going to feel the financial pain he’ll be going through when he gets out.

          Sure we all know someone that knows someone that got busted in the various raids on scenesites. Still no one is there to pick them up when they come out. You think they’ll be happy to work at MacDonalds for 12 hours because they let some fag kids download their sh!t and give them a “thanks, but FU if you try make $ on it” ….

          Sysop would’ve been much better off if he had made $ off it and stashed it away, dug it into his garden. That would have made me praise him, you lot would have hated and started crying like little schoolgirls of how much he “deserved” 40 months then. Fucking bunch of hypocrit faggots.

        • xpmule

          Godspeed
          I spent a good chunk of my life visiting my step dad in jail and watching how he would struggle with street life and would wind up back inside after a month or two when getting released because he was now mentally institutionalized so yeah i do know a lot about it I stared into his eyes and other family friends witnessing the struggles first hand pretty much all my life.

          ANyway the key point your missing is that this guy probably did not think he would be doing 6 yrs in jail that is excessive for starters.. 2nd objectively i can’t see how anyone would fail to see this copyright issue is NOT a mess.. no one EXPECTS to get hardcore jail time for working in a scene group. most get away with their activity and some are even public about it (they are not hiding and never have)

          So i’m saying I think your premise fails. By the way who said everyone will remember this guy ? YOU did and are postulating that as an argument you started with yourself lol

          what ever buddy.. think what you want ;)

    • Ophelia Millais

      “Nothing is worth losing your freedom over.”

      I think Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote that in Letters from a Birmingham Jail, didn’t he?

      “Just give up. Jail sucks.”

      (Unfortunately, neither you nor I paid the MLK estate for the right to quote him, so maybe we’ll both have some time in prison to reflect on his wisdom.)

      • Guest

        Remind me, prisoners get to watch movies in jail: who collects the royalties for those, and if it’s a DVD, how do they get round the ‘Not to be show in front of a live audience’ clause? Do they only play them them to dead prisoners?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/V6MAVVVBC23RLJZLHBV3YA3ABY Rutherford

        I don’t think MLK ever wrote, “”Just give up. Jail sucks.”
        You need to check you sources more carefully.

        • Rezident_User

          Perhaps, but he did say “I’m a nigger tonight!” during an orgy the good (married) minister was participating in.

          It was secretly recorded by the FBI, who were conducting surveillance.

          Before you have a knee jerk reaction, look it up.

      • xpmule

        I’ll do jail time for the right cause.
        I was held in jail before simply because i refused to give them my name and after 24hrs they came and said you know if you give us a name.. any name we call let you go and i said when’s lunch ? it was a Beef Au Jus Sandwich ..tasted great, had me a few naps kicked back and relaxed lol
        pissed the pigs off big time lol
        ended up giving them the name off a famous NBA basketball player and they let me go lol

    • xpmule

      “Nothing is worth losing your freedom over” ???

      tell that to Nelson Mandella.

      we are paying respect here and you are NOT !

      and how do you know how much jail time we have done ?

      stfu you don’t now anything are your statements are bullshit !

      • Godspeed Mr.

        Nelson Mandela… Either you go back to school or stfu.

        Yes, you’re giving him kudos on Torrentfreak’s Disqus API… Great fuckin respect & support. You think he’s going to think of your “thoughts” for 40 months? You’re an absolute imbecile and I wished he had made $ off the material he ripped. That way he wouldn’t have some faggot giving him worthless thoughts that he can’t use for anything but spit and shit on.

        Rather no thoughts with $ than no $ with thoughts. Fuck off xpmule.

  • Blueville

    Bloody USA… What have you become:/

    • ItsTheSasquatch

      It’s really more a matter of class than country. The rich control everything, everywhere. Neither laws nor borders matter to them. History suggests that the only thing capable of stopping them is angry peasants and a guillotine, and even that’s only a temporary solution.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/V6MAVVVBC23RLJZLHBV3YA3ABY Rutherford

        No, it’s all the Americans Fault.
        USA = Nazi Shitland.

        • Anon

          I know you mean while but that’s a dumb comment. It’s the same bloodlines in power in the USA that were in power in the UK, Germany, Russia, etc.

          And yes i know that bloodlines can be traced back to everyone, but not as think as they do to the royalty in power.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/V6MAVVVBC23RLJZLHBV3YA3ABY Rutherford

          @Anon, ????

        • That’s The Game

          That was progressive, USA finally took off its mask.
          Just analyze and look at its whole history.

          If your authorities are going to the wrong direction,
          they will guide your whole nation to the abyss.
          It’s like those countries which have leaders stealing country’s money
          and never bring progress to their people,
          while they benefit their social class and family.

          BTW, don’t you see all these US pro-copyrighters?
          They’re happy when they read news like this one,
          others who support wars and invasions made by USA,
          feel happy when hear people in those nations are getting killed by their troops,
          both tend to laugh about disgrace of other people.

          And what this thing about praising and worshiping fire guns?
          It’s clear that society and culture are not sane.

        • Jimmy671

          @Anon

          Have you been drinking?

      • xpmule

        except when morons re-elect people like Bush for another term lol

    • xpmule

      they have become a bully and a hypocrite.
      the once good reputation they had is long gone.
      the American for fathers who helped build the country would be disgusted.
      I bet they are rolling in their graves at the horrendous bullshit America pulls !

  • wow

    wow, so it must have been: he caused loss of x amount in lost sales > american corporation has suffered > he’s a terrorist > 5 yrs immediate prison.

    • ThinkerbouttheShilldren

      Just think about the children he hurt with his unlicensed copies. All those asian child prostitutes ready to get adopted by big Mafiaa heads and deported to live a decent live in Uhmerica performing crotch services under a conference room table.

      Now the studios lost Bazillion dollars in sales and cannot possibly afford to buy all the children of poor underdeveloped countries… awww.

      Damn it I’m nasty! but not as nasty as evil fucks who send people in for 5y over a non-violent crime. Hail Money Bitches!

  • Abc

    This fellows comments are familiar. We question why the government would punish someone so severely for such a petty action. The the suggestion is made that rich and powerful business people have pressured the courts to act so, hoping that somebody, perhaps officials, will pop out of the woodwork and exclaim that it was just a few bad corrupt apples and no real American lawmaker approves of this sort of thing.

    Well just watch the recent movie “Lincoln”, another item we are not ‘sposed to have. Here we see our best loved and perhaps greatest president EVER and what is he doing? Well, he is making deals, unlawful deals, illegal deals, handing out jobs to unqualified folks in return for their support, in short, the same stuff happening here. If bloody ABE LINCOLN did it are you surprised that far lesser characters do likewise? Are you really surprised when a man like Joe Biden makes his silly “theft plain and simple” statements?Remember what they said about Lucas’ movie dialogue? “You can write this stuff but you can’t say it!” Well YOU CAN MAKE THESE LAWS BUT YOU CAN’T ENFORCE ‘EM! And I’m refering to the laws against greasing Congress, courts and government hacks. And the laws protecting whistleblowers.

    Like it or not, this is our country and our life. If you want to spread files around you better be really good at hiding because your government will sell your freedom cheaply to someone who can guarantee votes or support. And God help Bradley Manning.

    • Anon

      Fuck Bradley Manning. Traitor. He’s sport in the military punishment machine. And should be.

      • Guest

        A person that reveals the TRUTH about United States’ WAR CRIMES is not a traitor.

        • Guest

          But a patriot.

      • Jimmy671

        And fuck all mafiaa trolls.

  • Anon

    I guess this guy has decided he’d rather deride on the way in than get out early for good behavior. lol Good riddance.

    Piracy at this scale is criminal because if digital files are to have a price in global economy, this scale must be punished severely. Three and one half years is a big chunk of time.

    TF readers keep whining “but it’s just a little entertainment”, choosing to ignore the hundreds of millions that go into the creation of it and no movie exists on just the boxoffice. IT’S NOT YOURS TO COPY AND DISTRIBUTE. NEVER WAS.” (are you blind? deaf? Fine. Get in line behind this guy, then. )

    So with this kind of 40 month sentence as a precedent, when other industries up the economic food chain with digital files to protect like automotive, aerospace and pharmaceutical, they can logically call for life in prison and secure 35 or 40 years for similar offenses. And you watch; if someone is stupid enough to distribute aerospace just WATCH what they do to that person.

    Seems fair to me. I have complete freedom of speech, i can say whatever I want, there is no “information” I need that is unavailable to me, nobody is going after Wikipedia or Encyclopedia Brittanica, and I just pay for the entertainment merch I take so there’s no worries. This was never complicated.

    • Guest

      Life is never complicated for a sheep….that’s why they get eaten.

      • Guest321

        One of the best comments ever on TF!

    • Anyone

      piracy causes no harm, that has been proven in countless studies so far
      it is a victimless “crime” and should be applauded, not punished

      • Anon

        I will laugh with delight as pirates are applauded on their bottoms.

        And as I said, pirates are people who copy. Everyone who downloaded this website today made a copy of it. So YOU will be spanked. And YOU.

        ALL CAPS NEVER WAS

        • Curious

          Whiskey?

    • IDIOCRACY

      Don’t worry Anon, soon your song is over, realize that the digital world will eventually not agree on these excess abuses of the patriot act, nor will the Americans if they are confronted in starbucks or Mc donalds without Wifi due to the copyright threats. Also remember the people with the money, use these places as well. Soon enough of the people with money who have to pay more taxes get fed up by the amount of money spent to keep the copyright business running like it has the past eon. They will demand better use for their tax dollars. Then 40 months of prison just costs too much and not even spoken about the amount the state (DoJ) spends on the trail itself.. it will soon all be too costly and too much people are already losing their jobs over raised taxes and economic cuts due to high government spendings (less money = less roads = less road workers…less money = less good education = less teachers = less educated people = more unemployment = more crime = more police = more tax dollars needed = less police available to perform raids on 9 year old laptop owners = the solution????)
      Think again, you’re fighting a lost battle and this guy goes into history as a hero for internet freedom, eventhough he would rather be free. AS if I would be in his place, 40 months is enough to get your law degree…. make sure you do not get out on parole but finish your degree first… specialize on copyright law…. defense… enough work to come.. hehe

      Oh and I am in the position to distribute aerospace..and guess what… it is actually mine to distribute….so…oh I already did…. hehe

      • Kobe

        it doesnt matter what the 95% think, its the top big money 5% to do what they want. So i say Freedom and god bless america <<< that joke was over in the 80's
        keep the people sick and stupid so the big money do what they want.
        looks like capitalism came and is now biting everyone in the ass

        how ya like them apples, ya hear lol

    • Anon

      wikipedia has to retain a team of legal counsel to deal with the constant stream of copyright monopolist abuse. People go after it all the time, generally baselessly.Ggive the copyright psychopaths an inch and they take a mile.

      Copyright monopoly steals from us all, destroying the value of all our property.

      f you want to spend 100 million making some bulshit, go ahead, but don’t try to shift your costs onto society. Your choice to sink those costs. I didn’t ask you to, if you don’t want something copied, don’t release it. If you don’t want to sink costs making something, don’t make it. Fine by me. I’d rather no professional artists (not that that’s a realistic scenario – most of human history is copyright-free, yet with pro artists) then a broken internet.

      • Anon

        I would never say these things. I do not care about or understand them.

        I think that IT IS NOT YOURS TO COPY. People who obey the law only copy things they already own. It is illegal to copy something belonging to some one else and ALWAYS HAS BEEN. Everyone who uses a copy machine is a pirate.

        • Curious

          Note to self: burn fax machine, photocopier and camera.

        • No1uno M8

          WTF are you on?? I want some of that…..must be some awesome shit!!

          and BTW douchebag, copying something that isnt yours is COPYWRITE INFRINGMENT…which is a civil offense, therefore NOT illeagal!

          You obviously can read, but your comprehension is shit!

        • http://thepiratebay.se/user/SCSA420 StoneCold420

          “Everyone who uses a copy machine is a pirate”

          and I say you are a F’N IDIOT

        • xpmule

          all the pc games i own are downloaded from torrents yet i would be sitting in jail if they had their way.. their logic is broken..

        • Colin Carr

          ‘It is illegal to copy something belonging to some one else and ALWAYS HAS BEEN. Everyone who uses a copy machine is a pirate.’

          WHOOPS, Credible citation needed.
          Also Anon, keep taking the blood pressure tablets.

        • Kobe the King

          you my friend are an idiot, when the law is corrupt, then it comes down to moral issues. so is Entertainment supposed to be shared or locked away. is a movie really worth more then human life.
          lets all go alittle crazy here and go with this, once i have breathed some air as i exhale. i own that, i need to copyright it .so everyone else in the room sharing it with me can pay up.
          ok i know im talking crazy, but no less then the fool above.

          what a joke, obey the law with out question is like believing in jesus lol

          blind faith always ends in trouble

        • Anon

          Dumb comment. So if I’m poor I should just stay home and be dumb. You may have gotten lucky with what sperm you came out of of, but we didn’t. So we will pirate to gain some equality.

          Free will doesn’t exist – science

      • Guest321

        Just boycott the entertainment industry. Don’t pay them a cent. I used to be one of those folks who used to go to the cinemas atleast once a week. It used to be a weekly ritual for me but all that has stopped now after hearing all this abuse of power. I have managed to convince my family as well every relative to get on the same boat as me.

        Yes, I need entertainment but principles come first. I will not support an industry that abuses human rights and trying to ruin the lives of countless innocent people.

        • xpmule

          yup.

          if i could bump your comment to the top of the page i would !

    • Andrew me

      I dont and have not for 10 years or more and i guarantee i have seen way more movies than you ever have, i have had fun messing around downloading hundreds of movies and sharing them all over the net, yes i have and i continue. As i said above, anyone paying for movies today is a douchbag, and has too much money for his own good. Piracy is taking the industry down so that it can be rebuilt outside of Hollywood.

    • Guest

      This has nothing to do with copying things. This war is about freedom to communicate digital information. Soon, ANY information deemed unfit.
      Specifically, any information ‘owned’, considered ‘sensitive’, ‘insensitive’, ‘suspicious’, or ‘inciteful’ will be enough to censor almost anything, anywhere.

      We are aware of the political agenda which is evolving.

      • Guest

        Yes but the controlled Media keeps telling sheeple this is about getting entertainment “for free”.

        • bobmail

          I’m still waiting to figure out what else it’s about. There doesn’t seem to be any digital information being traded except other people’s work.

        • TerribleTony

          Well then, it is our responsibility to correct those sheeple as loudly as possible.

    • Anon

      >Seems fair to me.

      Because you are a richfag that CAN pay for what you want to take.

      Sure the pirates on TF can be 15 yo richfags too, but most of the ones pirating shit are those who can’t give any cash.

      Before the internet we used to copy tapes and CDs for each other en mass. Never paid a dime for any movie beside the theatre to take a gal out for the night. Local RCMP didn’t give a shit.

      I really, really hate the opinions of people like who who think you are entitled to watching more movies than those who are too poor. Free will doesn’t exist, why should you be rewarded for being the sperm of some bourgeois?

      • Anon

        Just FYI, my dad was very blue collar and I was raised in a very modest environment. I wanted better, so I earned my money myself by leaving my hometown, going to the city and working my ass off around the clock in ways I could never have believed would be required for decades as an independent to whom NO ONE ever brought a paycheck on a Friday afternoon.

        Monied pro-tip: Fact is I’m entitled to whatever my cash can lawfully purchase and if you don’t have that same cash, you are not, including more movies, whether can make your peace with that or not. I wear better clothing, I drink better scotch, I drive far better wheels and if you have a problem with that you are probably a Communist.

        And need I remind you? A Communist is someone who already has their secret dasha in the woods and so now they lobby for no further development. lol Grow up and embrace reality. And work the weekends for 20 years like I did if you want something better. Fucking slacker.

        • Anyone

          paying for something that is free doesn’t sound like a smart economic decision to me

        • Anon

          @ Anyone.
          That’s what Gregory Cherwonik said. lol

        • ThereThere

          Get sick or just old. All your money will preclude you from any welfare aid. If it’s a long or serious illness your money wont last long paying top prices for patented drugs. You wont be at all interested in the rights and wrongs of copyright then, just surviving the inflated prices should ruin your appetite for entertainment. You may even be glad of the generic copies.

          Your an egotist with nothing but contempt for others, probably about 38 years old. You had nothing but contempt for your father, who was probably very strict, hence you having to go it alone because of an developed hatred of authority figures. You have few if any real friends, and any you do have are as mean spirited and dismissive of people as yourself. Your relationships are crap because you see them as an competitive arena, they are battles for supremacy, in fact, you actually project violent tendencies. Drinking doesn’t help.

          Fuck it. What do I know. Forget it.

        • N_mailer

          “so I earned my money myself by leaving my hometown, going to the city and working my ass off around the clock in ways I could never have believed would be required for decades as an independent to whom NO ONE ever brought a paycheck on a Friday afternoon.”

          Never got the GED, though, am I right? Your sentence makes no sense.

          “I wear better clothing, I drink better scotch, I drive far better wheels”

          You mean when you’re not making up laws and pretending coupons and birthday presents and bargaining and bidding and bartering and DIY don’t exist, you’re sipping $15 scotch in your Chevrolet Monte Carlo? Somehow I believe this.

          Nobody buys movies. One watches movies. One buys DVDs or VHS tapes or movie tickets.

        • Guest

          @Anon

          Hahahaha, an old man angry and jealous that the younger generation has it easier than he did, and so he demands the clock to be turned back on progress.

          That’s fucking sad.

        • bobmail

          @guest:
          “Hahahaha, an old man angry and jealous that the younger generation has it easier than he did, and so he demands the clock to be turned back on progress.

          That’s fucking sad.”

          Actually, what is “fucking sad” is that an entire generation has lost it’s way, thinks that everything should be a free lunch, and they should have to work for exactly none of it. They think that rewarding the people who entertain them the most by giving away their stuff freely is some sort of good thing.

          It all spirals into a smaller and smaller spiral, finally snuffing out at some point.

          All the free speech and creative commons and new digital media stuff would all make sense if there way anything new going on. There really isn’t. Technology has allowed for more crappy indie movies to be made, more crappy indie bands to think themselves big for recording on a pirated version of protools, and so on. Instead of “feasting” on this digital bounty, you concentrate instead on pirating what you can’t have for free. The top files on torrent sites generally are pirates movies and albums, not from the usual suspects, (Dan bull’s highest torrent has 28 seeders, and that is a brand new file. top music has more than 5k).

          There are an incredibly number of people here making the old “fuck the police” and “screw the MAFIAA” comments, but in the end, they pee their pants when they get stopped by a cop, and they download the movies and music they claim sucks so bad.

          In the end, their actions are self defeating, taking money away from those investing in making more of what they want, and instread, having diverted to crooks like Fat Kim, who lives the good life while you suffer. How nice.

        • icec0ld

          @Bobmail

          “Actually, what is “fucking sad” is that an entire generation has lost it’s way, thinks that everything should be a free lunch, and they should have to work for exactly none of it. They think that rewarding the people who entertain them the most by giving away their stuff freely is some sort of good thing.”

          Given that the entertainment industries are still pushing profits and growth every year, I find it rather hard to swallow that something being free is bad.

          But hey. Welcome to progress. 20 years ago I could have asked “Bring me all the movies!” and there would have been only so mny that could be brought to me. I say it now and I’ll be watching for 4 – 5 years and likely still not watch all the movies.

          “It all spirals into a smaller and smaller spiral, finally snuffing out at some point.”

          If you’re not aware, Hollywood, the music industry and entertainment in general have yet to post significant losses let alone link anything negative to the piracy of artistic works with any respectable study.

          “All the free speech and creative commons and new digital media stuff would all make sense if there way anything new going on. There really isn’t. Technology has allowed for more crappy indie movies to be made, more crappy indie bands to think themselves big for recording on a pirated version of protools, and so on. Instead of “feasting” on this digital bounty, you concentrate instead on pirating what you can’t have for free. The top files on torrent sites generally are pirates movies and albums, not from the usual suspects, (Dan bull’s highest torrent has 28 seeders, and that is a brand new file. top music has more than 5k).”

          So you would stifle creative works distribution of those who could afford no other way to make their works known world-wide and end free speech to protect the imaginary profit loss of soulless corporations literally rolling in cash?

          Good to know. I’ll be glad when “your generation” is finally gone. Then real progress can begin and tax dollars stop being wasted on protecting a industry that does not need it.

          “There are an incredibly number of people here making the old “fuck the police” and “screw the MAFIAA” comments, but in the end, they pee their pants when they get stopped by a cop, and they download the movies and music they claim sucks so bad.”

          Getting stopped by a policeman is usually because they have committed a tangible crime. Downloading films is, not and will not be equal to committing a real crime for very, very obvious reasons.

          “In the end, their actions are self defeating, taking money away from those investing in making more of what they want, and instread, having diverted to crooks like Fat Kim, who lives the good life while you suffer. How nice.”

          As I’ve pointed out, this huge loss isn’t putting a dent in entertainment and culture any way.

          “Fat Kim” had the gall to do something you would never do. Start a real business and make it successful. Why idiots like you seem to think running a data storage site with encryption is piracy encouraging is beyond me and clearly, just grasping for an easy target to blame for their perceived failings

          P.S Run a spell check please (“instread” lol)

        • Guest

          @ icec0ld. “Downloading films is, not and will not be equal to committing a real crime for very, very obvious reasons.”

          Wow!

          What a pity you weren’t on Gregory’s defence team. Why didn’t his lawyers think of that? He’d have walked for sure.

        • SoundnuoS

          @Icecold

          >So you would stifle creative works distribution of those who could afford no other way to make their works known world-wide and end free speech to protect the imaginary profit loss of soulless corporations literally rolling in cash?

          The above does not follow logically from the existance of copyright. Anyone can still distribute for free if they choose. No one is stopping CC licensing or open source. No one is stopping the bittorrent protocol. We are still communicating freely.

          If people can’t afford a Protools license there’s this: http://www.cockos.com/reaper/index.php

          Cheap, legal and not bad.

        • UraPhake

          “…so I earned my money myself by leaving my hometown, going to the city and working my ass off around the clock in ways I could never have believed would be required…”

          Are you trying to tell us you’re a Midnight Cowboy?

    • Another Guest

      The problem is that those businesses are an unnatural, immoral and unsustainable business model. There is a reason why Mickey Mouse is not in the public domain – and it has nothing to do with justice. You would see this sort of activity if the laws were more fair, but not on the current level. You can’t win in the long run, because almost no-one under the age of 30 in any part of the globe sees it as stealing. This is essentially the end of the entertainment industry, which is a pity. They do many wonderful things.

      But the problem is, they have no sense of fair play, fair use, or public domain. When the constitution was framed, copyright only lasted 14 years, and was renewable only so long as the original creator was alive. This has become hideously perverted. Unfortunately…when your salary and way of life rely on something, you can’t see how immoral it is. Now, not everyone deserves to get things for free, but certainly, anything made before a certain period should be in the public domain; which would – in the original sense – be 1999 or 1985. Imagine how different things would be if everything made before 1999 was public domain. If you want to switch over to that system of laws…. a non corrupt system …. then yes, enforce away. But the current system serves wealth and power, and as people refuse to cooperate with it, it is going to fade.

      • Guest

        It may not fade but it will remain ignored.

    • Wallace

      “TF readers keep whining “but it’s just a little entertainment”"

      are not on this thread.

      You just wrote five paragraphs that have nothing to do with the subject just to repeat your same old misunderstanding about what “copying” is and why it’s legal. We’ve explained it to you before. Over and over. It’s like the sun rising in the east.

      I don’t like Cherwonik or his disingenuous self-pity, but boy, you and he are cut from the same cloth with your cottage cheese thinking.

    • http://thepiratebay.se/user/SCSA420 StoneCold420

      YOU’RE A F’N MORON

    • Guest

      Piracy at this scale is criminal because if digital files are to have a price in global economy, this scale must be punished severely.

      Bullshit.

      http://www.google dot com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=filesharers+%22buy+more%22&

      . IT’S NOT YOURS TO COPY AND DISTRIBUTE.

      It’s mine to copy and distribute the moment it’s publically released, because that’s how the world works in the 21st century.

      when other industries up the economic food chain with digital files to protect like automotive, aerospace and pharmaceutical, they can logically call for life in prison and secure 35 or 40 years for similar offenses.

      Okay. Let them call for it. It would do jack shit to stop piracy.

      “This was never complicated.”

      You’re right, it isn’t complicated: copyright is dead and it’s never coming back. Why do you have a problem understanding something this simple?

    • Godspeed Mr.

      Asshole,

      The movie industry were reaching peak levels in box office last year. WTF do you want? You didn’t even reach same levels in the 80s or 90s when the Internet was barely even born. People are better informed now, and people will pay to go cinemas if the movie is good. In case of most movies, they’re pretty fucking shit, so how about upping the quality rather than quantity.

      Sharing will happen and will always happen. Period. Live with it or work with it. Your business model is flawed.

    • FurFkinFaceUncleF

      Who the fuck even liked your non-coherent illogical and ill-conceived rambling? STFU you moron. Must have missed the flag button. Asshole…
      A few comments below you just went full-retard. Nevermind then. Go play in the yard with the other mentals. Or might that be your twin/sympathiser/gay lover? Lots of A-holes and Anons around y’know.

      Either way. No points for trolling nor opinion. Total douche is total. And btw… who the fuck gives digital files the same prize tags as real world media? I can buy a book and sell it again. I can’t do that with digital content. Nor is the content by itself worth the extra fee when the real deal is even cheaper or available at the library… again total nonsense by Totaltroll.

    • RIAAtarded

      IT’S NOT YOURS TO COPY AND DISTRIBUTE. NEVER WAS.

      ok so what exactly does your tivo, DVR, PVR do then? It is a copy of the show / movie you want to see. Most have usb ports for expansion space isn’t an issue. Now tell me what exactly is the difference in me recording it or downloading it? Both result in a digital copy of the media. Only difference is how you came by the copy. One is entirely legal other could result in prison time even though they are the exact same thing. Personally I prefer downloaded TV as it is commercial free and as I’m not in the region or the country the commercials are targeted at they have no relevance for me. For each show i watch 20 minutes of it is advertising and to be frank I don’t want to waste hours of any given evening listening to cialis ads or wonder if my vaginal mesh surgery went wrong and maybe I should sue. Bottom line is I paid for that show so how I get or consume it is irrelevant.

  • Guest

    You can kill a person (murder) and do less time in prison.

    • ItsTheSasquatch

      As long as the victim is poor, of course.

      • Anyone

        and/or black

    • coro

      Only if you’re white.

      • Rezident_User

        Not true idiot. Statistically, a white person is far more likely to recieve the death sentence in a capital murder case than a minority.

        • NatteringNabobsofNegativity

          “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

        • Rezident_User

          Here are the facts(but please don’t let this interfere with your mythology):

          Between 1975-2005, blacks committed 53% of all felony murders and 56% manslaughters. Black averaged 12% of the US population during this time period. Source: US DOJ, Bureau of Justice Statistics.

          If the application of the death penalty was evenly distributed by race, then 53% of the people on death row would by black and 53% of the people executed would be black.

          Here is a link to the most recent statistics of the application of the death penalty from the US DOJ, Bureau of Justice Statistics. The DOJ breaks it down into three racial categories. Black, Whites & Hispanics, and Asians & American Indians.

          Only 41.5% of the inmates on death row are black. This means black murderers are substantially less likely to get the death penalty for murder.

          Of the whopping 46 death row inmates executed in 2010 (out of 3,173), only 13 were black. This means only 28% of the death row inmates executed were black.

        • Curious

          ‘Only 41.5% of the inmates on death row are black.’

          What? the 42nd inmate just had black legs?
          How can you have .5% of an inmate? Traffic accident, maybe?

        • Guest321

          41.5% of 200 inmates is 83 inmates. 41.5% of 1000 inmates is 415 inmates. That’s how you have 0.5% of an inmate idiot.

  • Anonymous

    and the truth is basically what he has said. if you have enough money, you have powerful friends, in both public and private walks of life. that is the biggest problem. ordinary folks cant get anything done, even when it is right, is law abiding, sensible and will benefit the masses. the few can use their wealth, their power and their powerful friends to get what they want done when it is totally the opposite of the above and only benefits one or two people or companies. but when that power is used to get laws changed that increase sentences for crimes that are now classed as criminal, that is disgraceful. those that cost countries billions, forcing them almost to the point of bankruptcy have received no sentence, yet the entertainment industries can get people put into prison for years for sharing a movie for free. where is the justice in that??

  • dondilly

    And the tax payers foot the bill for the trial and incarceration.

    What bugs me is the irony that imagine releases were generally renowned as some of the best quality, that initself generated many fake imagine releases, poor rips labeled as imagine. It gave a false impression of how prolific they were. In short, many fake imagine releases falsely attributed to them when sentencing.

    When it comes to early releases shot on a cam, with the poor quality image and audio, if the film is any good, the release should drive viewers to see the film in all its glory. The only real just8fication for complaint is if it is a crap film thus viewers avoid getting ripped off with overpriced tickets. Either way, they are doing the film company a favour else they be blamed for hoodwinking people to see it using a highly selective trailer that distorts the quality of the film.

    • Guest

      With respect, 3 clips of 5 minute duration (say, beginning, middle and three-quarters the way in) would be enough to let anyone know whether or not they might like the movie. It doesn’t take a full length cam release to tell if the movie is any good.

      That’s not really the issue. The issue is disproportionate sentencing when compared to charges brought for violent behaviour etc. Something like the latter can scar a person for life. I don’t think a cam is going to bankrupt any business (unless it’s crap like you said).

      • Anyone

        no, that’s what trailers are, and they are generally worthless and misleading

        I’ve downloaded many movies after seeing a good trailer and would have been really pissed if I paid money to see them

        now, personally I’m no fan of cams, I wait for dvdrips at least
        the downside is that I can’t see the movies I discovered by accident in the cinema, because by the time dvdrips are available the movies are no longer running

      • whahappened

        Obviously sir you haven’t been follwing the teachings of M. Night Shamalamadingdong. His movies have the biggest fkin cop outs ever… besides the two B. Willis starred in. Fuck trailers. Sometimes they SPOIL the fun, sometimes they plainly suck, sometimes they contain scenes not even mentioned in the movie itself. So again. Fuck trailers. I would be better off looking at screenshots on my phone and throwing a coin to help me decide which movie I go check out.

        • Facefuck

          Recent top FAIL of Mr. Night: Avatar the last Airbender. Boy did that movie suck or what? The Trailer did suck a whole lot more.

  • Thrasher

    the last person I saw misusing “voila” as “viola” was Kelly Bundy.

    • Thrasher

      also: please don’t say it’s a victimless crime, it’s not.
      there are shitloads of unfair shit done by copyright groups, they are practically like the mob, but saying shit like this is screwing our own chances.
      our only weapon is honesty, don’t fuck that up.

      • Andrew me

        I am sorry but sharing a file online that i would never have paid for is a victimless crime. The big fat record breaking figures that the movie theatres show prove none are suffering, the fact that actors are still being arrested for whoring around and doing drugs show nothing has changed, it is a victimless crime, i just wish it was not, i wish they were hurting, i wish they were losing money, maybe then they would fear us more and stop locking up people that only causes more disobedience by the billions sharing content around the world.

        • Thrasher

          the huge problem here is that you (apparently) don’t even know about the smaller productions, bands, who pay for their studio time with their own money, movies without multi-million dollar budgets.
          they do exist, you know, despite the fact you only care about blockbusters.
          and they can not allow the luxury of losing like 75% of their income to piracy.

          and yes, I pirate THE SHIT out of everything I own, I’m just simply not a cluless/lying hypocrite.

  • daas88

    God, I hate USA authorities so much. And the wealthy people that makes them do this kind of bullcrap. It makes me want to not watch a movie ever again…

    • Guest

      It makes me not want to PAY to watch a movie ever again.
      It appears they use that money to buy laws which incarcerate my peers.

      • Andrew me

        We on here know it takes minutes to download a movie , why would anyone ever want to pay for a dvd, seriously i laugh at those people and they dont do it again, or at least dont mention it to me, it is something to be ashamed of buying a dvd and supporting these parasites that need to be destroyed and ejected from any place of power. The change is here, billions around the world share movies every minute of every day, and nobody and nothing will stop them, every. The fight is won the defeated just do not realsie it , and every time they lock someone up they just give us such a stronger resolve to fight on and make the copyright monopolists shake in anger/

        • http://thepiratebay.se/user/SCSA420 StoneCold420

          AT LEAST SOMEONE HERE IS SMART ENOUGH TO REALIZE THIS FACT

  • PelouzeTF

    53 years old and jailed for ignoring laws to impress anons, what a loser.

    • StupidFuck

      Do you always speak with a mouth full of cum?

      • Rezident_User

        You’re obviously familiar with that sound. It must be what your mom sounds like in the morning.

        • Guest

          Troll detected.gue

        • Twelve

          No, he just hears it from your dad a lot.

        • Facefuck

          Pick a side you cunt.

      • xpmule

        no i bet he has an assload most of the time too and maybe some on his back and a little in his hands and hair from his MPAA pay masters pimping him out.
        ignoring laws ?
        Like what kind of laws ? like the kind of smart laws that say prostitution is illegal unless you film it ?

        how about..

        California
        In Los Angeles, It is not legal to bathe two babies at the same time in the same tub.

        Iowa
        A man with a moustache may never kiss a woman in public.

        Maryland
        It’s illegal to take a lion to the movies.

        Oregon
        Drivers may not pump their own gas.

        Wisconsin
        Whenever two trains meet at an intersection of said tracks, neither shall proceed until the other has.

        Florida
        One may not commit any “unnatural acts” with another person.

        BY the way this list could be infinite !

        PelouzeTF you FAIL at logic and reason and your comment is vulgar insult to those that are ALREADY convicted of a crime and your spitting on them is unnecessary.. your a pig for treating people that way !

        • PelouzeTF

          “PelouzeTF you FAIL at logic and reason” hmmmm, care to explain why ?

          Or are you just going to copy and paste irrelevant laws and not actually make any point at all regarding criminal copyright infringement ?

          And how is my comment an insult to those already convicted ?

    • Guest

      No.
      He got jailed for ignoring unjust laws and is suffering for giving pleasure to countless thousands. I believe the policing of society is necessary and, for the most part, am grateful for the presence of a police force. I draw the line when a sentence is disproportionate to the ‘crime’. This particular ‘crime’ impacted on nobody (that could only be measured by actual losses, and since neither you nor the studios can actually quantify a loss figure), no crime was committed…only infringement.

      This makes breaches of copyright more sanctionable than murder or drug trafficking. That thought is as abhorrent as it is ridiculous to any civilized human being.

      • PelouzeTF

        “He got jailed for ignoring unjust laws”

        You or anyone else can think a law is unjust when it comes to your own personal situation but that is obviously irrelevant to the outcome.

        He can piss and moan all he likes – he knew what he was doing was against the law and continued to do it anyway.

        • Anyone

          Nelson Mandela also went to jail
          this is basically the same thing, an unjust system finds some victims

          but of course you’d be the kind of person applauding the incarceration of Nelson Mandela, because Apartheid was the law and ignoring it or protesting it is not an option, everyone has to follow all the laws, no matter how unjust

        • Guest

          Agreed. He knew what he was doing.
          I would still rather see my taxes spent on hunting down murderers and drug traffickers than being wasted on persecuting (and prosecuting) a 53 year old man who did no harm to anyone (no quantifiable loss, remember). Most people would agree that chasing copyright offenders, using money from the public purse, is an obscenity given the profits these companies turnover; that the comparative sentences are bizarre given that these companies continue to break profit records year-on-year.

        • PelouzeTF

          Id rather see my tax money spent on a whole lot of other things – but sadly, every year, courts have to deal with a huge quantity of cases concerning every single law under the sun. Where in the majority of cases the person(s) involved in breaking the law(s) knew what they were doing but did it anyway.

          Ultimately, who is to blame for clogging the system ? where one person(s)/company feel legal action is the only recourse, ……. fuckwads like Gregory Cherwonik who bought it to that point.

        • Who

          “You or anyone else can think a law is unjust when it comes to your own personal situation but that is obviously irrelevant to the outcome”

          *He got jailed for ignoring unjust laws* na he was jailed because the DOJ and the FBI were ignoring the LAW and doing what the MPAA wanted them to do.

          and it might do YOU some good to READ the US copyright act. or are YOU afraid to read the TRUTH?

          http://www.copyright.gov/title17/

          http://www.copyright.gov/title17/circ92.pdf

        • PelouzeTF

          I’ve read it many times – is there a certain part you wanted to point out ?

        • http://thepiratebay.se/user/SCSA420 StoneCold420

          STFU LOSER WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK

        • N_Mailer

          “You or anyone else can think a law is unjust when it comes to your own personal situation but that is obviously irrelevant to the outcome. ”

          He is arguing the law is objectively unjust.

          The outcome is relevant because the outcome is what makes the law unjust.

        • H33l

          “Ultimately, who is to blame for clogging the system ? where one person(s)/company feel legal action is the only recourse, ……. fuckwads like Gregory Cherwonik who bought it to that point.”

          If the law is unjust, what one person (s)/comapny feels is irrelevant.

          The law does not exist to stroke the feelings of one person(s)/company.

          When bad law clogs up the system, the fault is with the law, not the lawbreakers.

        • PelouzeTF

          Of course – its not the fault of those that break those laws at all. Thanks for the lols.

        • Who

          “I’ve read it many times – is there a certain part you wanted to point out ?”

          many times? hm….apparently you didn’t read the fine print or between the lines because I sure the hell found some shit in there that is getting broken by the copyright holders and the US government all the time.
          some other things as well. the point is…..they are ABUSING it and taking advantage of it UNLAWFULLY. BUT I shouldn’t have to point any thing. its obvious that you are full of it and you are blowing it out of your but. just like the rest of the trolls that come up here.

        • PelouzeTF

          So you can’t specifically point to anything ? I thought as much.

        • xpmule

          Against the law ?

          http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/alabama

          have a read son ;)

        • Facfeuck

          Wow PelouzeTF… astounding specimen. Are you even related to the human race let alone an earthling? I suspect you to be a hate driven space dictator from the planet of Dicks. You already nuked your own pile of shit planet to oblivion and somehow by a miraculous chain of events ended up here. Of course a product of such a highly underdeveloped society as yours must blame anybody else but yourself for anything that is not to your liking.

          I hope you do as the rest of your species and vanish in the tides of time. Unheard, unseen but well known as a pillar of ignorance throughout your existence, outstanding as an example of degradation and regression for the whole human race to avoid.

          R.i. Pieces you FUCK!
          As of now on my insta-ignore-watchlist xP

        • PelouzeTF

          oh no – I’ve been ignored by an anonymous person. What will I do.

        • Jimmy671

          bobmail and Anon must be on a troll break,and you are filling in for them.
          OK carry on.

        • Who

          “So you can’t specifically point to anything ? I thought as much”

          YEP I sure as HELL can. BUT Y should I?

        • PelouzeTF

          Don’t worry if you can’t – no one thought you could.

        • Who

          another thing I would like to point out is that you have a lot of nerve coming up here and telling everybody that this man broke the law with out even one quoting were in the law it shows that he broke it.

        • PelouzeTF

          Even TF spells out what they were charged and convicted with. And a 5 year old can search and find the appropriate law. Go on, give it a try.

        • Who

          “Don’t worry if you can’t – no one thought you could”

          I have already proven what the law says in a LOT of old posts, you have arrived late to the scene and I really don’t feel like I have to prove myself to YOU. I have how ever already proven myself to the TF community, just what the US law says. and YEP I even have shown them were it says it. AND a lot of TF users have already agreed with the TRUTH.

          the ONLY users mocking the TRUE LAW are the ones that just simply want INJUSTICE. hence Y a few trolls have already said that the TRUTH is debatable.
          and YOU sound like you are another one.

        • PelouzeTF

          Thats like telling to a group of alcoholics that liquor is beneficial to their health – of course they’re going to agree with your assumptions.

          Armchair lawyers are a dime a dozen my friend.

    • http://thepiratebay.se/user/SCSA420 StoneCold420

      I don’t give a fuck what anyone thinks as Freedom of Speech applies here…. FUCK YOU BITCH.

      • PelouzeTF

        Eloquently debated

        ……to think he went to jail for people like you – you’ve really got to LOL at that.

        • N_mailer

          He went to jail because he broke an unjust law, not for “anyone else.”

          Fuck bitches like you.

        • Jimmy671

          You are not here to debate anything.
          You are paid to be here to stir shit,sad way to make a living.

    • Wallace

      Anon is not impressed. Or to be more accurate, he is babbling about “copying” and does not even understand what the guy did to get jail time.

  • Hukunuku

    Wow hold on a minute. 5 years for this? You know that the companies are still making money and yet something like this can happen? Higher ups in our government, behind the scenes are getting away with far more terrible things than this, like child prostitution and extortion and no one can really do anything about it, yet a human being that gives to society at no cost can get locked up like this?

    The people that supposedly runs american is full of so much shit. Everything that we’re supposed to stand for is so fake, this country is garbage

    • Anyone

      5 years is the maximum sentence
      he “only” got 40 months

    • ItsTheSasquatch

      The American ruling class is out of control and they know it. Unfortunately, they also know we can’t do **** about it–they’ve long since rigged the system to prevent it. The only thing we have left to keep them in check is the threat of revolt, and they’re working hard to minimize that too–as usual, in the name of “protecting the children.”

      • Guest

        Why do you think new and harsher gun control laws are the hot topic right now? The current administration has been dreaming about stricter gun control for some time, and Sandy Hook gave them the perfect excuse to push that agenda hard.

        The fewer guns in the people’s hands, the less chance of any revolt taking off, or at least lasting long enough to make the law enforcement and military reconsider which side it wants to be on.

        Worst of all are guns that aren’t registered in any database. The government won’t know where to look for these guns should they decide to ban and confiscate all privately held guns. To my knowledge, guns sold at gun shows aren’t required to be registered in the same way as guns sold in gun stores. There is new legislation in the wake of Sandy Hook to ensure that all guns and gun sales are registered in a federal database. No exceptions.

        • Anyone

          the USA has two times as many weapons per capita as any other country
          don’t worry, you will not run out of ways to kill each other

        • Guest

          There is new legislation in the wake of Sandy Hook to ensure that all guns and gun sales are registered in a federal database. No exceptions.

          I shall recall those comforting words if ever I am gunned down by an antisocial psycho. Glad will I be that he registered, as my lifes blood drains from my body.

          God Bless the FBI. Hang on…aren’t they the ones who turn up after I’m dead?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=608525922 Ronald MacDonald

    The entertainment industry has Obama in their back pocket, how many posters voted for this incompetent twit?

    • ItsTheSasquatch

      Don’t blame me; I voted for Kodos.

    • Randy Lahey

      I stayed home on election day and still have no regrets.

      • Godspeed Mr.

        So indirectly you let Obama win you fucking muppet.

    • Rezident_User

      Most of them Ronald.

    • GreenPirate

      Voting is for plutocrats and plebeians. If you want to do something useful, rally thousands of people to contact their representatives with demands.

    • xpmule

      too many and they did because they couldn’t give Bush a 3rd term !

  • Lange

    I can’t believe something like this has happened in the so-called western part of the world.

    • zippos soppiz

      capitalism is just a synonymous for corrupt government paid by corporation and nothing more, individual rights HA sucked little man, you ain’t have no rights we don’t approve.

  • zippos soppiz

    this is a real man of principles Sr. I don’t know you but I respect you, DotCom you can suck MY DICK you fat piece of shit, talking about freedom of expression hope you die without a dime.

    • Curious

      He will. He only carries plastic.

  • http://twitter.com/Effec_Tor Effector

    Hollywood lobbyists and their political enablers are the scum of the earth

    • Guest

      Presidents, Prime Ministers, Kings…there just gaudy puppets which get changed every so often. It’s international corporations which stuff these puppets full of cash.

      Who has their hand up the puppets ass?
      That’s the question we, the journalists and the enquirers, ought to be asking.

  • dvdoff

    Gee, all he had to do was open a bank. Then the Feds would have left him alone!

    • xpmule

      yeah easiest way to rob a bank is to own one..
      and no i didn’t read the book with the same title lol

  • downunder

    good to see theyre not wasting prison space for drug dealers and murderers there LOL

    • IHaveNoBalls

      Yeah throw the drug dealers in jail.. That will stop the sale of drugs (sarcasm)

      • JiminyWay

        I believe it was George Jung who said (paraphrasing) I went to prison for selling Marijuana and came out a Cocaine Kingpin with connections to Pablo Escobar in Columbia. LOL!

      • downunder

        thats the point theres not space left to put them in there

        plus as soon as you rid one drug lord another pops up

        its the same as downloaders or warez sites etc

        its a total waste of time and resources.

        maybe one day they just shoot them like in china cost 50cents for a bullet.. but maybe a few bucks as they like a firing squad as they are such bad shots :)

  • downunder

    if it was a NZ or aussie judge it would of been a fine.. worse they do is give you home detention,keeps the costs down and more room for harden crims… goes to show how corrupt america is and how they force their will on other countries using money as incentive and trade agreements to weak people in power that some us would never vote for..

  • Rocky

    I PAY 100 DOLLARS A MONTH FOR MY INTERNET…whats the internet for? Oh I get it ……pay 7.95 more for Netflixs…then $5 more for this and $5 more for that……oh fuck man… here…jus take my whole pay check….if we could get 1000000 people to cancel there internet on one specific date…and refuse to pay for internet again…these motherfuckers will here us…..somebody please…lets do it….hell wifi is everywhere anyways…we could hold out for ever….

    • downunder

      thats been a idea for ages.. the isps should set aside 10pennies for each dollar they earn.. as the net is for downloading
      when a claim is made and proven it can be paid from the fund
      no need to mpaa or lawyers and rich fooks they instead and extort cash from the global fund per country :)

      of course internet is darn expensive in some countries and dead cheap in the richer bigger countries.
      so some of us paying through the nose for expensive data caps

      • downunder

        of course some goodie to shoes (typically a christian)
        will say I never download illegal stuff why should I pay
        cant say all that download heaps use it illegally

        i say.. what a boring fook you must be.. get a life and find out
        the real fun of using a pc for total entertainment.(until
        media coys wake up and provide the content they way the people want it)
        so if you pay then start to download some stuff then you
        basically paid for it via the 10pennies programme

  • Randy Lahey

    Four years for copying some movies? Child molesters and armed robbers get less time then that.

    • RIAAtarded

      sadly this is true and what kind of messages does that send to the victims of real crimes? Sorry we know this was a traumatic experience for you if only we’d caught them seeding instead we would have got a longer sentence.

  • Stehsegler

    I am amused that the average American still believes they live in a democracy. They might democratically elect their president. Let’s facer it though. The country is run by lobby groups, lawyers and people with deep pockets.

    The fact that they still have a president is more a token gesture. Just look at the gun control debate.

    Why piracy is a federal offence is beyond me. What they are saying is that sharing a movie with financial gain is worse than committing credit card fraud for example.

    That said we don’t know what the minimum time for parole is. He may as well be released in 12 month on good behaviour.

    • ItsTheSasquatch

      The problem is that the American ruling class has entrenched itself so completely that there’s nothing the citizens can legally do about it. Just look at the electoral process–it essentially guarantees that they only get to choose between pre-approved puppets. The only option left is open revolt, and that’s not likely to happen–especially if the government succeeds in depriving its citizens of effective (“assault”) weapons.

  • injustice

    thinking of you Spunky.

    Godspeed.

  • Ophelia Millais

    This reminds me, what ever happened to Kevin George Poe, the guy who was nabbed by the Feds for the Anonymous attacks on Gene Simmons’s website? He was due to appear in a Los Angeles federal court a year ago. That’s the last anything was ever written about him.

  • Mega Norris

    R.I.P Freedom.

  • Hogspace

    This incarceration tells us that the American justice system and parts of the political process have been usurped by vested interests and taken over by a few wealthy corporations.
    Exactly the same has happened inside the EU, the Commission is bought and owned.

  • Sick Of American Stupidity

    ’m surprised there are so many trolls on TorrentFreak today considering that it’s Inaugural Day and one would think they would all be worshipping their lord and master Obama. It’s also Martin Luther King Jr. Day, so I guess it’s a two for one worshipping celebration today. All hail the chief and your symbol of equality.

    What a farce America has become. Celebrating a lying fascist dictator that orders death for men, women, and children around the world and an F.B.I. documented philanderer. Martin Luther King cheated on his wife with many women and engaged in orgies. And he was supposedly a “Man of God”?

    What “wise”, “good” people you worship.

    You can’t find better people than this to idolize? You could’nt find better leaders than this to serve as President and the symbol of equality?

    Pathetic.

    And then you have these trolls come on here and make out as if we are bad people for sharing files. What hypocrites.

    Most Americans are STUPID, EGOTISTICAL, EXCESSIVELY MATERIALISTIC and SELFISH.

    I know all about this. I have spent my whole life around it. I live in America and I am a citizen here, but I certainly don‘t call myself an American. I DO NOT align myself with this government or with any government for that matter. I align myself with truth, justice, and goodness and all the people of the world that are a part of these ideals.

    • Guest

      Fuck Obama.

      No matter how much of a cheating slut MLK was, however, that doesn’t detract from the good work he did or make his place in history any less significant. He deserves his own day.

      Also, are you equating a philanderer with a lying fascist dictator who orders death? Thinking sex is a grave evil on par with murder… Typical American insanity(and I say this as an American).

      • Brainwashed Bullshit

        Fuck Obama and MLK.

        I respect neither.

        You miss the authors point. The point was that there were other people involved in the civil rights movement that worked harder than MLK and were a hell of a lot better people who should serve as the symbol of equality. There were many good people who were behind MLK that helped make him what he was in the public eye, that wrote his speeches for him for example. MLK has become the figurehead. Yet, as it is taught, these other people are rarely if ever mentioned. THEY should served as the symbol of equality. Yet, most people, even you, probably don’t even know their names.

        MLK should deserve his own day?

        Bullshit.

        Many other people in the civil rights movement deserve their own day (of all races-heaven forbid, some of them are white).

        American stupidity indeed.

      • Fact

        @Guest

        More interesting facts about MLK.

        It has been proven that he plagiarized his doctoral dissertation.

        A liar, philanderer, and plagiarist masquerading as “Reverend”….a great person to look up to.

  • Kung Fu Script

    Script For “Kung-Fu Copyright”, aka “Revenge In Guangdong”, aka “Wok Justice”.

    Setting: 16th century China, Guangdong, A street outside The Palace Of Justice.

    An evil copyright warlord has gained influence with the government and helped to corrupt it. The people live under tyranny. All noodle manufacturers have their profits siphoned off by the Copyright Warlord and a leeching nobility. The judges, Minister Of Justice, and the government of Guangdong are paid off with bribes and incentives. Corruption is rife in Guangdong.

    The final straw with the villagers was when a mentor and chef, named Gregry Chow, was unjustly sentenced to prison for sharing copyrighted noodles.

    The judges, Minister of Justice, government officials and Copyright Warlord stand above the people at the top of the steps of The Palace Of Justice. They are surrounded by menacing guards and a sneering nobility.Hundreds of angry villagers are gathered in the street below, mad as hell and brandishing pitch forks and woks.

    ANGRY MOB (shouting ferociously, raising fists and weapons): “Justice for Chow, justice for Chow, justice for Chow”.

    COPYRIGHT WARLORD (in a sinister manner). “Silence! All people of Guangdong, let this be warning. We own noodle rights. It is good law to sentence man who violate noodle copyright” (strokes long beard). The nobility around him say, “Hmmm, yes.”

    ANGRY MOB (shouting): “No”, unjust, unjust”.

    A wise old chef named Mr. Lee emerges from the crowd of villagers, white headed, holding a walking stick and The Respected Ancient Wok Of Truth And Delicious Taste. All the villagers become quiet when he starts to speak.

    MR. LEE (looking majestic, the villagers look at him with deference): “For too long, people suffer for noodle copyright.We have right to make and share noodle. You no imprison for noodle. You no take profit unfairly. (shaking finger at Copyright Warlord) You never take noodle from people. You never stop access to mother lode.”

    The Angry Mob roars in support.

    Suddenly, the palace guards sway forward in unison, preparing for battle. The Copyright Warlord spits upon the head of Mr. Lee.

    A collective, low grumble is heard from The Angry Mob as it sways back as a Tsunami before its forward swell and ultimate destruction. In the distance, lightning strikes and the thunder booms through the heavens. The Angry Mob rends their garments and salivates with anger. A low grumble is heard and the crowd suddenly moves as one force. The Copyright Warlord and his associates have eyes as big as cabbages as they realize they have gone too far in their oppression of the people.

    The battle ensues.

    Hiiyaa! Perkk!
    Kung-fu slaps.
    Waaa! Crack!
    Bone crunching kung-fu kicks.
    Shriiing!
    The clash of woks and weapons.
    Boop!
    The sound of woks and farming implements upon skulls.

    The whole of Guangdong has turned into a melee of epic proportions.

    The battle goes on for several minutes, but doesn’t take long as the evil ones fight like wet noodles left soaking too long. The judges, Minister of Justice, government officials, nobility, and most of the palace guards are left lying on the ground writhing in agony.

    The final conflict begins as old Mr. Lee works his way through the remaining guards, knocking them out one by one with his walking stick and The Respected Ancient Wok Of Truth And Delicious Taste. He gently sets his weapons aside and lunges gracefully forward through the air like a carp flowing in a swift current to land before The Copyright Warlord, grabbing his long beard and slapping him across the face with his other hand. He then gives him a kung-fu kick to the crotch which sounds like the crushing of dried lychees. He drags him by the beard to the edge of the steps so all the villagers can see. He gathers the man’s hair along with his beard, and swings him through the air, round and round and round, eventually flinging him into the mucky compost heap near Shulin’s Vegetable Market.

    The mob is angry no more and they all shout with joy. The battle is won.

    The sun appears through the dark clouds and there is great rejoicing. The chef Gregry Chow and all other noodle prisoners are released. The evil ones are tried before the people and imprisoned or exterminated.

    The tyranny and noodle copyright law ended that day and there was peace and justice in Guangdong.

    Noodles and sharing forevermore.

    • Anon

      This is fantastic. lol

  • Ray

    While I don’t agree with the punishment this gentleman got, he (they) should have been more careful. Plus, the IMAGINE Group was very arrogant. If you have a family and you don’t take into consideration what your doing is against the law and there may be serious repercussions for your actions, like going to jail, I don’t know what to tell you.
    The IMAGINE Group was a serious uploading bunch, they knew that and we knew that, so they should have expected the law to know that to and understood at some point somebody might go after you. I’m all for file-sharing, but I would never risk my families security over it. I’ve uploaded hundreds of audiobooks to a certain torrent site that was raided and its servers taken and that still bothers me, but at this moment nobody gives a shit about anything but movies… I hope the best for the guy and hope he gets an early release. We are the Uploaders.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002100766274 Cheryl Vaughan

      hopefully he is in a low level prison like level 1 or 2 if the federal Gov. has them as most inmates in there are minor offenders and if he did sign a plea agreement for the five year sentence then he is not likely to get out early but yea he did get a bum deal and never should have been charged in the first place. Hope he makes it through all this and comes home ok.

  • Guest4gfe4gerg

    It will keep happening as long as these multimedia files that belong to highly egoistic authors keep being shared.

    It might be so for entertainment material, but for other kinds of materials (e.g., educative, which also includes learning to create new multimedia material for entertainment) the best option in the long run is for people to become creative and do their own stuff, and then share it massively and cooperatively over the monopolized, poisoned entertainment material.

    Only then the hold and even the meaning of these absurd copyright laws will end in effect. There can be more laws then, but making illegal such free content, would require making illegal the whole Public Domain, Creative Commons and Open Source environments (too extreme to be applicable without returning to the Middle Ages in all aspects – not very likely).

  • JG

    Wait, I’m confused…. The comments I’m reading say he’s going away for 5 years…. But the article says 40 months. If I’m doing my math correct, 40 months is only 3.33 years…. It’s 3.33 years too long, IMHO, but its still not 5 years….

    • Ray186

      With good behavior you only have to do 2/3 of your sentence. The remainder of the time he will be on parole.

      • JG

        So by your estimations, he’ll be locked up for a year (give or take)…. That’s even farther from the 5 years people are mentioning….

    • Anyone

      the 5 years are the maximum penalty

  • BiGsupInHeRe

    If he was smart he would have not got caught up in anything, To all the law out here go get a life and find something better to do. shutting down 1 team is nothing.

    If you want to see me im the guy out side the movies selling the new rls to the people before they pay the ticket man come get me I dare u.

  • Tlj

    As many of you have probably seen in real life there is no interest for the “authority” is made of people that have no such desire as to unite us or share the resources of earth.For them, it is better to keep us fighting one another for a piece of bread, and “stealing”. Religion, Politics, Law Enforcement, and many other organizations have been created for the sole purpose of serving the ego of the few who dare to call themselves in power – to protect them from us. There is no such thing as power over others, and with the evolution of internet (which had unpredicted and unwanted results for them) they fear that people will be able to organise themselves against the establishment.Yes, the have always used scare tactics and created terrorists out of inocent people, but they are limited to doing that with a few individuals.Now let us give them a billion people or more doing against them, let’s freeze the banks and money saying we do not want to use them anymore, and their establishment WILL FALL.
    Their time will come eventually, when people will begin to understand the sad truth.
    WE MUST ACT NOW, STRIKE THEM WITH # BILLION PEOPLE SAYING NO TO THEIR STUPID ESTABLISHMENT. THEN EVEN THEIR SERVANTS WILL REALISE THAT THEY CANNOT DEFEND THEM ANY LONGER.THEY STAND NO CHANCE AGAINST THE WHOLE WORLD.Only one problem though: we have to learn to respect one another, to leave aside stupid taboos and discrimination,and declare ourselves “children of the Earth”, so to speak. We are all brothers, but they have enraged us against one another, to better control us. It is a lie that we dont have enough resources.We have more than we know, and with our current technology, we can create even more, and protect the environment.We must aim for something like the Venus Project.It seems utopian, but it is better than a World War. Just look at how much we could acomplish if we would unite and COLLABORATE. Competition is not humane, and it only separates us and distracts attention from the “AUTHORITY”.
    That is how a few can control the many, but I can bet that if we deny their established values, and create values based on science, we can surely change the world to somenthing better. A child when is born is not curious of how to kill an other child, istead his or her curiosity is pointed at any single thing. We are not born special: we can all be special, but because of the indoctrination, that is dealt with very early, so the child becomes a tired adult, with rage in his mind.
    SAY NO TO ALL THE B.S.! NO MORE POLITICIANS, NO MORE POLICE, NO MORE BANKS AND MONEY, NO MORE STUPID LAWS. WE ARE CHILDREN OF THE EARTH, ALL OF US. ITS RESOURCES BELONG THE EVERYONE, NOT TO JUST A FEW.THIS SH**’S GOT TO GO!

  • xpmule

    The American Govt needs to be stopped.

    That country makes me sick !

    They can go jerk off in front of a mirror..
    Shit hole full of douche bags that do not understand how to treat their own citizens properly.

  • downunder

    People seem to still forget its just a crappy CAM rips they did

    if anything it was great free promotions for media network
    as people never keep camrips and have already or will go and see it
    when it arrives in their country.. or buy the blu ray

    so not only fining him is nutty but jailing is a burden on the tax payers that wont have any gain to society..

    why do people grab camrips? they know they are crap.. well cos
    media are too stupid to release it world wide at the same time
    or they just too slow releasing a dvd/.blu and so people want to
    watch it again

    as you always get a annoying fookwit in the cinema talking over it or standing up

    another reason going to the movies is going to die when people
    have better setups in their own homes now days
    so sales to the box office will natural die anyhow but of course
    they blame pirating LOL..

    shortsightedness

  • Christopher Kidwell

    I’ll say it again: 40 months is more than 2/3rds of what some murderers get in prison. It’s past time to say that if there is no financial benefit motivation to piracy, it cannot be charged as a criminal offense.

    Even as a civil thing, it should really be legalized.

  • cupid_stunt

    i would be the first to employ such a guy. genius? i think so, whatever he does when back in the open he sure will cover his tracks. but this is exactly the opposite to what the USA, should be doing. people like him should be embraced for their ingenuity and entrepreneurship. what we see from outside the USA is an island that is punishing the real future wealth generators at the sacrifice of rewarding the leeches and underhand finance people, if you can call them that, it is a bit on the polite side, granted. i hope he uses the incarceration to study and that when he emerges he doesn’t just disappear into obscurity

  • http://twitter.com/juliandoesstuff Julian KrispelSamsel

    Fuck you america!

  • Anon

    man keep your head up spangy were all thinking of you guys thanks for the films and a great site much love peace ;) ;P

  • Andrew Lee

    I’m sure people will eventually wake up once copyright infringement becomes a capital crime punishable by death.

    • downunder

      which then leads to more corruption.. oh how it nice would be to setup a ex boss with copyright infringement and have him shot LOL

      it never work.. more controls more rules more corruption and miss use.

      just another american religious witch hunt.. like back in salem days..

      poor sods in uk and usa burnt at the stake.. for entertainment

      im sure bollywood would be there filming it for reality tv to make a few bucks LOL its mostly run by jews is it not as well :)

  • TerribleTony

    Destroy a mans life for what, MAFIAA? For your fear tactics against the culture of sharing. The culture that existed before your “industry” did.

  • Jamie M

    I shed a tear when I read that. I’m sure you’ve explored all your appeal options already Greg, but damn! I hope your time goes quick and easy and you don’t come out with anything you didn’t go in with :(

  • An0nYm0u5_Pt

    as a now non-US resident… All I can say is that this man was unjustly imprisoned… If the US wishes to call us terrorist then I say its time we give them a reason to call us terrorists… what was once a non violent and victimless crime is now putting peoples lives at risk due to corrupt governments that are easily manipulated by over zealous, greedy old people hoping to keep the past in tack because its how they became so rich. Its because of this greed that was allowed to continue that caused such corruption today.

    Greed has finally become the blanket for corruption, what will you do to keep your freedom or will you just bow down like the majority and be violated by your corrupt politicians?

  • http://pdalzotto.fr/ Dalz

    If I take a look to what people said, two things seem important to remind:
    1. Information goods have fundamental characteristics that make them different from physical ones. Instant and no cost copies, not consumed by use and so… That makes them incomparable to traditional products.
    2. One of this characteristic is that it really cost a lot to produce those kind of goods, that makes them very dangerous to produce by definition, in terms of ROI.
    But, I’m really agree with Swartz on the fact that knowledge and classic work (Shakespeare, Victor hugo…) have to benefit from public, unlimited and free access, and it changes nothing on the fact that the last Iron Man (put the title you want) is NOT in this 2 families (for those who understand French, (and I’m sure it exists some alike in English) you can watch Alexandre Astier’s interview at Paris Comic con).
    And, price are really a problem as the cinema industry (not music, which try to literally « suck » new entrants like Deezer Spotify or others) has really never been so rich, especially in a crisis period. A worker family will spend 50 $ minimum to see a movie in a cinema… They just can’t…
    As a conclusion, if fundamentally (information goods and so) piracy is logic, it still doesn’t make sense to propose Hi Def and « Illegal » (I insist on the « ») stuff. It is just entertainment, so, a free access to something “watchable” can be an awesome solution, but those industries are just dumb, it seems…But still his point of view on the police state and corporations is really horrifying. For example in France, if I remember, a sexual aggression is almost as punished as piracy…

    Conclusion : I would more appreciate to read Aaron letter on his vision than this one. It seems that it will be far more defendable and necessary.

  • downunder

    why pay for it.. telecision companies will air it free of charge at some stage… we pay cable we buy hardware/smarttvs we pay this and that for data its all going to someones pocket somewhere.. it just might take a little longer to get it.. so whos really stealing media.. well no one.

    stats in reality.. can assume losses but in fact no losses ever lost
    cos as above shows.. content movies and tv shows are bought by main stream companies and air free.. alas ruined with ads but we can record and skimmed through later..

    just some of us like to watch it ahead of time before it shows up
    free but ewe could just wait

    no one is harmed.. they only think they are harmed
    i want my manson sooner :)

  • Erfeasrg

    Honestly, while I support him and his actions, his faux ignorance of the laws really makes him look as though he’s trying to stir up shit and not be responsible for what he was a part of. The law has been the same since I can remember (was born in 1986) and it’s been plastered at the beginning of films since I could work a VHS player.

  • tmc8080

    ( this story is good for at least one cliche)Back in the day, piracy groups were so obscure that it wasn’t a big problem. Distribution of audio & video was acutally quite limited * also there was very little bandwidth to be successful so this remained a physical trade in the technology of the day– ie vhs tapes* .. with the broadband internet the alleged losses can mount exponentially. The software industry’s been trying to fight piracy for decades. Just because the music & movie industries are now under attack seems to give them priority in getting “justice” on an unfair basis. Most common sense people already know this as evidenced by the RIAA’s suing of many innocent and some not to innocent people civilly in court & also the melodrama of The Pirate Bay.

    As most people are aware, in the last decade or so give or take a 911 attack, your privacy rights have been obliterated and you leave a daily paper & electronic trail even if you’re a hermit living in the woods. So, Imagine trying to run a domestic USA video piracy group… not too easy anymore (if your intention is to NOT get caught by the feds). Laws have been changed to make video/audio piracy “Kingpins” a target for jailtime. Some of these are as he points out traced to the patriot act and “terorrism” legislation. Infact this guy’s lucky they didn’t strike sooner.. they took their sweet time to make sure this case stuck… b/c the feds have been burned with cases that blow up in their faces (or spend so much money it’s a hollow victory) so, to speak..

    It’s a pity that he didn’t put more effort into legitimate use of computer skills and let an under 18 run the show.. much less the feds can do about that.. just give the USA time.. they’ll find some way to twist that into endangering the welfare of a minor, lolz… Orwell ain’t got nothing on what Bush 2, Obama and the corrupt congress have been doing the last 13 years.. Who could’ve imagined… a world economy in the crapper by design, and video piracy is a priority?!? FUBAR, compared with pre-2000 era.

    The oldtimers of the scene should retire and pass on the scene to the next generation. Or else, face a possible series of unfortunate events…

  • FrenchActivist

    Gregory, the youth notices. Some of us do, at least. I, and others, are regularely taking part in demonstrations. We protested against SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and are going to protest against the INDECT research project in a few weeks.
    Some of us notices what is going on, some of us are taking action.
    Good Luck and hugs from France.

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  • xpmule

    yup ..fuck em
    can’t stand them and their retarded bullshit !

  • GruR

    Time to no longer use U$ dollars, sad thing is:
    That’s on hands of politicians in the world.

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