IP-Addresses of the 24,583 Hurt Locker ‘Victims’

Ernesto
May 24, 2011
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Yesterday we covered the updated list of defendants in the Hurt Locker lawsuit.

By targeting 24,583 alleged BitTorrent users, Voltage Pictures set a new record in the ongoing mass-filesharing lawsuits in the U.S.

The Hurt locker makers initially sued 5,000 people but have recently updated their complaint.

Through the court they hope to get the identities of the alleged copyright infringers, so they can suggest them to settle the case for several thousands of dollars.

We managed to get a full list of the 24,583 IP-addresses (>400 pages) who are accused of downloading the Oscar-winning film.

The document is searchable, so if you’re worried that you may be one of the targets, here’s your chance to find out.

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http://twitter.com/icanhazsake O Rly Owl

They failed b4 for jurisdiction issues and others. And they even have the fact that ip alone is a weak evidence. Do they take pleasure in failing?
http://twitter.com/icanhazsake O Rly Owl

They failed b4 for jurisdiction issues and others. And they even have the fact that ip alone is a weak evidence. Do they take pleasure in failing?
bob

I have not watched hurt locker yet maybe i should add myself to the list :-)
bob

I have not watched hurt locker yet maybe i should add myself to the list :-)
Mitenpat

This movie wasn’t worth even to be downloaded.
Jackal_x_2000

For those who want to know their IP address, say back in march… you can pull it out of your email headers, however gmail only records it if you were using outlook.
Jackal_x_2000

For those who want to know their IP address, say back in march… you can pull it out of your email headers, however gmail only records it if you were using outlook.
Bchintel1

If anyone needs help legally feel free to contact my office at 404-579-9668.

My website has a good Q & A section on these types of sham lawsuits as well.

http://www.chintellalaw.com
- Anonymous
  
  Yeah, because only the BEST lawyers advertise on internet message boards!
  - http://www.facebook.com/cody.warmbo Cody Warmbo
    
    He’s obviously a lawyer who deals with stuff pertaining to this exact matter, would this not be THE prime target for his advertising?
  - http://seobullshit.com King Douche
    
    Dude is trying to help @lakawak. STFU.
  - http://twitter.com/keithme77 Keith S
    
    You don’t need to bother looking at his site if you don’t want to.. what’s wrong with advertising right in the RIGHT article???
- Anonymous
  
  Yeah, because only the BEST lawyers advertise on internet message boards!
Anonymous

deny everything they say……..

Your ip does not identify you….. or even your connection……

They are trying to scam money from people……. Treat them as scammers…
- Mark Ss
  
  “Your ip does not identify you” …. are you freaking kidding me …….please before posting something so stupid go read a little bit….
  - Bchintel1
    
    Your IP address doesn’t identify you per se, but it does identify your account. ISPs keep a record of who is assigned a particular IP at any given time. They assign IP addresses from a range of addresses that they have access to – i.e., a block of IP addresses. There are directories that keep track of what ISPs have control over what blocks, thus a plaintiff can backtrack an IP address to a particular ISP once they “detect” it as being involved in an allegedly illegal download. Therefore this is why ISPs are getting all of these subpoenaes after a plaintiff supposedly detects it.
    
    On problem with this is that the IP address only goes to your router (or modem, i can’t remember which). So there could be multiple computers (or even a handheld device) in the same household accessing the same router; therefore, they would all surfing the web under the same IP address from the plaintiff’s perspective. Moreover, wireless access is frequently unsecured, so there’s a possibility that your neighbor is leeching off your Internet and the plaintiff has no way to know whether this is the case…
    
    Blair Chintella
    http://www.chintellalaw.com
    - http://www.facebook.com/collin.cusce Collin Cusce
      
      Unlike you, I’m no lawyer. Just a guy, from the DC area, whose done his due diligence in researching this topic because it’s relevant to what he does for a living.
      
      What you are saying won’t hold up in court… especially if tried in D.C.
      
      1) The person who signed the contract for the connection is responsible for the connection as of now. This isn’t the UK where they require a direct link between the person and the IP and the timestamp. Title II of the DMCA does protect what are called “Online Service Providers” from immediate lawsuit by giving them a take down notice grace period. No such protection exists for residential service users.
      
      2) DMCA Section III states that transmitting copyrighted material over the internet, even partially, counts as infringement. Even if the FAIR USE Act of 2007 had been passed, it would have explicitly stated that transmitting such information would be illegal.
      
      3) Let’s say there was a neighbor leeching off of your internet, and you can prove he was doing so. Unfortunately, that wont hold up either. Bitorrent typically uses ports 6881-6889, if I recall. Those are easily blocked on the router or modem level. If piracy is a concern, you still would have options. That plus the fact that you broadcast your unsecured SSID into your neighbors home… despite the fact he would be commiting a crime for using it, you’ve been negligent… and since this isn’t a criminal trial, that could hold up for damages.
      
      4) U.S. v. Ahrndt in Oregon, for instance, found that wireless network security is to be treated the same as wired network security. With that being the case, the law is clear: if someone gains access to your wireless network, you are responsible. Mind you, this isn’t a precedent-setting case, but it is quite noteworthy.
      
      5) A reasonable case must be made that there is sufficient doubt… I wouldn’t bet my lunch that you can do that. You’d have to, A) Catch someone on your network, B) Prove it’s not from your household, C) prove it’s your neighbor, and D) demonstrate that they are conducting illicit activity.
      
      Honestly, I’ve read this complaint. The best chance you have on a case is the nature of their evidence.
      
      1) Did the uploader have the entire file? Can you prove that? Bittorrent works in a neat way where each person shares a few chunks of the file at a time and receives a few chunks at a time from various sources. If the defendant had a partial file, you might have a case there… if you could prove he never finished downloading the file.
      
      2) What is the granularity of their timestamps? There might be something there… doubtful
      
      3) Do they have packet data for each chunk of the file they received? If so, you’re boned. Totally.
      
      The real double edged sword of bittorrent is that it does what’s known as a “cryptographic hash” on its packet data. It’s basically its way of making sure the file chunks you’re getting are actually part of the file you want…. rather than some bitcode that could be injected into it. This is great for file sharers. It prevents people like the RIAA and MPAA from squatting on torrents and injecting bits that prevents the song or movie from ever playing.
      
      It’s really bad for these people, though. If they’ve sent the right hash, I can say with almost absolute certainty that they have the right file. And if they have the right file and are sending you the partial bits from it, that’s distribution of copyrighted material.
      
      Blair, this is by no means a troll lawsuit…. these guys might as well take free representation.
    - Anonymous
      
      Yeah, actually, that “IP Adress does not equal personal identification” will very likely be held up in court. For someone who’s supposedly done their “due diligence” you’ve overlooked something that anyone with ten seconds can figure out.
      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=IP+addresses+are+not+people
      
      Furthermore, your post displays a remarkable lack of knowledge when it comes to previous copyright infringement cases.
      
      Honestly now. I’m disappointed.
    - Anonymous
      
      Ports 6881-6889 really? These were blocked by ISPs before Myspace had 10 users. Even noobs dont use them anymore. It is not possible to block bittorrent at the port level with consumer grade routers.
    - Anonymous
      
      Ports 6881-6889 really? These were blocked by ISPs before Myspace had 10 users. Even noobs dont use them anymore. It is not possible to block bittorrent at the port level with consumer grade routers.
    - Snaralicious
      
      Every computer had a MAC address built into it. The IP is essentially your mail box and the person that owns the house is the MAC address. All the authorities have to do is locate you via your IP and then check your PC’s to see if the MAC address of the accused downloader matches up with anyone in the house. If it doesn’t, they can go to a computer manufacturer and find out where that PC was sold. I doubt they would go that far but its possible.
    - Majik655
      
      uhhh no. The router has a mac address and that address can be changed to something different very easily. Now your computer has a mac address however if you have a router, the router is the one that is being logged by the isp.
    - Jackal575
      
      -And- MAC addresses aren’t unique.
    - http://twitter.com/BTC_Brin BTC_Brin
      
      Actually, they ARE unique, or at least they are intended to be.
      
      The fact that they are easily spoofed with third-party software, and often even in the actual device’s software, does affect this though…
    - JEnny
      
      If your computer does not have an ethernet card, it will not have a MAC Address. So, technically, you are still wrong.
    - Kemptville Computers
      
      every networked device has a mac address, that includes wired ( ethernet cards) wireless and even bluetooth. Mac addresses are supposed to be unique by design but with spoofing being as easy as clicking a few buttons and typing in whatever you want the mac address means jack all.
      
      Also in response to the original post by Snaralicious I don’t believe mac address information is stored at any point of a torrent being downloaded, even if it were what mac address is actually being used? the routers, the modems, your computer? To find any of that information would require a warrant ( at least here in Canada).
      
      Also In terms of going to the pc manufacturer to see where that pc was sold, assuming that they keep that type of detailed information ( I could see serial numbers but not mac addresses) that would have to cover everything, ethernet/wireless cards both built in and add in, all routers and all networking devices even if it wasn’t spoofed.
    - Anonymous
      
      The mac
    - Con
      
      The MAC address information of a computer never goes to public (internet) network it is used locally by protocols to communicate, so you can’t get hold of the MAC address of an client past the router it is connected to.
    - Bob
      
      The problem with the MAC address theory is that the MAC add. sits on layer 2 transport which is tossed out the window the second the packet hops onto the web. Arp requesting is then used to identify the MAC address once the packet is back at the layer 2.
    - Jenny
      
      “On problem with this is that the IP address only goes to your router (or modem, i can’t remember which)” – So, why don’t you go and remember which is which before you post on a tech board. If you were hired as a lawyer, all the best to the people who you will be fighting for.
desbest

I wonder what Anonymous would think about the leak. After all, all information should be free, and they are fighters for “internet freedom”. Anonymous can’t really complain about this. Lol.
- Jackal575
  
  AFAIK Anonymous doesn’t care for idiots… downloading from a public tracker? – you deserve to be sued.
  - Zarathustra2k1
    
    Idiot yourself. Remember ACS-Law? The Crossley-tard?
Anonymous

Phew! Glad I’m not on that list. Could’ve happened, y’know; I’m pretty sure there are trackers out there that give random/fake addresses, just to make this sort of evidence irrelevant. Of course, the MAFIAA are too stupid to notice that sort of thing, which is why they keep suing network printers and dead people.
That’s the problem with a strategy that depends on your opponent’s intelligence: it is, by definition, not foolproof.
IDIOCRACY

This is no more than a money making machine, they (plaintiff) know that lots of people get scared when you only mention the word “court” so they will pay up the same day without even calling to a lawyer or experienced downloader with knowledge of the rules.
If only 10 percent pays, this is already half a million dollars easy money, only needs some letters.
I suspect they uploaded the movie themselves at the start of 1st seeding just for this purpose. But hey, where is my tin foil hat.
- Anon
  
  Actually it’s already been reported the settlement is $2000 so just 10% success would be nearly $5000000!! It will only take a 35% success rate to equal the box office takings! Just ridiculous!
Guest

8.8.8.8 on the list
- http://www.facebook.com/jain.shardul Shardul Jain
  
  lol
- Mr.Subba
  
  these guys are nuts!! ROFLMAO
- Jackal575
  
  LOL how did the google DNS manage to get on there?
My COCk Is Bigger Than Yours!

The Fucking MPAA & RIAA bitches like to strong arm the public with their ambulance chasing lawyers who will take on any frivolous case. The MPAA & RIAA investigator are fools as well as their bullshit cases. I know, I dealt with them in court once and won, I smiled at them as I left the court for them being fools. I also sued and won, fuck them, They are sloppy. Bring into question their professional training and you’ll see how remedial they are. What the public should be doing is suing the film industry for their lack of art and weak story lines. Most of the movies are re-makes and stolen story line from foreign or independent movies…..which they fuck up.

Remember, the MPAA & RIAA are the stepchildren of the movie & music industry who are desperate for attention. BITCHES!
- Anonymous
  
  Wow…what a nice story you just made up.
- Anonymous
  
  Wow…what a nice story you just made up.
Eduardo

They are wasting their time. There’s a lot of people sharing info by using BitTorrent, however someone, right now, somewhere is ripping the latest DVD or BluRay and burning it to blank DVD or BluRay sharing with the neighbor. How can stop that? Simply you can’t. People can share MP3 by using e-mail. They are fighting in a war that can’t be won.
Eduardo

They are wasting their time. There’s a lot of people sharing info by using BitTorrent, however someone, right now, somewhere is ripping the latest DVD or BluRay and burning it to blank DVD or BluRay sharing with the neighbor. How can stop that? Simply you can’t. People can share MP3 by using e-mail. They are fighting in a war that can’t be won.
Umibozu

So if they go buy a legit copy, they cannot be sued? Because ownership is obtained.
- Anonymous
  
  wow…such ignorance. No…you don’t pay $20 to own the RIGHTS to the distribution of the movie, idiot.
- Anonymous
  
  wow…such ignorance. No…you don’t pay $20 to own the RIGHTS to the distribution of the movie, idiot.
  - Not the Mama…
    
    they are not being sued for distribution, lavalamp…
- Jim
  
  I believe correct, because they scratched their copy and Downloaded a backup should be within the law. I am not a lawyer though.
- Jim
  
  I believe correct, because they scratched their copy and Downloaded a backup should be within the law. I am not a lawyer though.
- Bchintel1
  
  Unfortunately, buying a copy of the copyrighted movie doesn’t negate any past copyright infringement. Even if you bought the movie with cash, I think that a plaintiff could determine when you bought the movie (for example, before or after the infringement) by using the SKU code.
  
  At any rate, the Copyright Act doesn’t prohibit you from giving or selling your DVD to another person, but it does prohibit giving or selling a copy of it…
  
  Blair Chintella
  http://www.chintellalaw.com
  - Tigerunderglass
    
    I don’t see how they can get a date from a SKU.
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1506736261 David Stone
    
    Purchasing an older copy on eBay would fix the SKU issue!
- Bchintel1
  
  Unfortunately, buying a copy of the copyrighted movie doesn’t negate any past copyright infringement. Even if you bought the movie with cash, I think that a plaintiff could determine when you bought the movie (for example, before or after the infringement) by using the SKU code.
  
  At any rate, the Copyright Act doesn’t prohibit you from giving or selling your DVD to another person, but it does prohibit giving or selling a copy of it…
  
  Blair Chintella
  http://www.chintellalaw.com
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Anonymous

I can’t believe it is 2011, and a site that claims to be knowledgeable on the topic is still suggesting that people get getting dued for DOWNLOADING copyrighted material.
Anonymous

I can’t believe it is 2011, and a site that claims to be knowledgeable on the topic is still suggesting that people get getting dued for DOWNLOADING copyrighted material.
- Guest
  
  flagged troll
- Zar
  
  “get getting dued”?
  
  Dued, take that cock out of your throat & speak clearly… :D
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disgruntled paying cuatomer

I am so sorry I bought this movie. I will attempt to boycott anything that these people release. With a little luck their case will fail and they will never make another movie again. Certainly not one that I will watch.
anon

Funny, IP doesn’t prove it was you who the person was who downloaded the movie. If you’re a dynamic customer, your first defense is DHCP. Your IP always changes, so right off the bat they don’t have conclusive evidence you owned that IP at that moment. Plus, my next step would be to sue them for invading my privacy and exposing my personal information online. Thirdly, I would also sue for so much money i’d own their asses for slander, discrimination, and inconclusive judgment.
- Bchintel1
  
  As I describe in my comment above, ISPs keep a log of who is assigned a particular IP address (in a DHCP situation) for a certain period of time. This is why plaintiffs try to move quickly, because different ISPs have different data retention policies. For example, Time Warner is actually most customer friendly and will destroy their information as soon as there is no longer a subpoena. Other ISPs like Charter and Comcast don’t give a (*&%. They are content with getting paid a “lookup” fee per IP address from a plaintiff rather than protect their customers’ information.
  
  Ideally, if it costs money to comply with a subpoena and an ISP can ask the court for compensation from the party using the subpoena. If they don’t do this, they must eat the cost. In all actuality, what happens is that plaintiffs (i.e., their attorneys) know this. So before an ISP has a chance to object to the subpoena or seek compensation, they automatically offer to pay per look up. Usually the amount is GREATER than the actual cost per look up. In other words, they give the ISP INCENTIVE to NOT object to the subpoena or to seek compensation from the court.
  
  This is very significant, because 99% of these subpoenas are invalid for several reasons. However, at least in the District of Columbia, the courts have ruled that a person doesn’t have “standing” to challenge these deficiencies, only the ISP does. But since an ISP is actually making more per lookup than the “actual” cost, they have no reason to challenge the subpoena.
  
  It’s underhanded.
  
  Blair Chintella
  http://www.chintellalaw.com
- http://twitter.com/mwaxxx Max Coldrick
  
  very good point, your IP is personal information and the fact is, thats being shown to everyone. if the plaintiff company can link an IP to a person, theres nothing to suggest anyone else cant!
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HQJLVQ5IPKXA33X2D3EVRT64YE Kiv Kuu

Wow you would think they would be smart enough to mask their real IP address when dealing with torrents. http://www.total-anonymity.eu.tc
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Jojo

so let me get this straight- these are all from late 2010 and early 2011. This means that these are people who downloaded it AFTER the lawsuits began! these people knew the lawsuits were afoot (at least they should have) and they still downloaded it? If I am wrong correct me- the dates shown refer to the time of the download right?
- Jordan
  
  You are completely right, I just noticed that. The movie was released in June of 2009, this lawsuit crap began in April of 2010 I think? So all these people downloaded it after the fact!
  - Anonymous
    
    Of course we downloaded it after the fact. As soon as I found out I connected to the WiFi networks of everyone I didn’t like and downloaded copies so they’d be sued.
    
    (I didn’t really do this, just pointing out the flaw in the IP based lawsuits).
Jojo

what does “hit date (UTC)” mean
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Two Thumbs Down

They’re just salty because their “critically acclaimed” movie actually blew donkey d**k and now they want to make everyone else pay for it.
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guest

the whole excuse for the joinder is that these people could have worked in concert to download and upload to each other, so explain to me how a guy from april ’10 and somebody from jan. ’11 are working together to get a movie?
markie

So they can’t make money of the movie. So they go after bittorrent users instead. So in turn every movie that doesn’t do well then bittorrent users will get targeted.
- random joe
  
  Save the bad movies for netflix, doesn’t take them long.
Flores11201

Okay for the Lawyer types. Data Over Cable Service Interface Specification (DOCSIS)
is the system used in the U.S.A. This relies on a license plate (Mac I.D.) on the Modem. Their are X number of Modems connected to a Node. This node is a very large capacity router serving X number of suscriber’s. Hackers who steal broadband service
simply Clone Mac I.D. from Modems on one Node then use it on another Node. They sell on ebay these Modems where the Firmware has been replaced or you can Flash
your own Modem easily. So now how on Earth is a person who’s account has been hijacked and used to download Movies/Music etc. be accused of Negligence when they
and even the I.S.P. are not aware of the hijack ??? “Secure”Wireless networks can and do get cracked all the time. So now the consumer has to hire a $300.00 an hour Security Tech and Purchase Enterprise wireless etc equipment because a bunch of shifty lawyers and Movie Producers have found a way to scam the Public ? Perhaps
the Investors and Producers of these Lousy Movies ought to try Making a DECENT
Movie and then it would make money. As people LOVE the Big Screen if the Movie is good. So those lawyer types out there looking for some ammunition to stop these crooks wearing Suits and ties Check it out and research the (DOCSIS) system.
Massacre

Yes they can sued your ass but they can’t prove you were sitting at the computer at the time of the download. Nor can they prove that the person downloaded the torrent to begin with. This is more like a FU to those who were a fan of that piece of crap.
zarathustra2k1

@Ernesto: you said “who are accused of downloading the Oscar-winning film.”

Nobody is being sued for downloading ‘The Shirt Lifter’ or whatever the flick is called; they’re being listed as distributing it over P2P, i.e. uploading it.

As the LA Laws00t itself states:
“[...]each Defendant, without the permission orconsent of the Plaintiff, has used, and continues to use, an online media distribution system to reproduce and distribute to the public, including by making available for distribution to others, the Copyrighted Motion Picture.”
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http://twitter.com/mwaxxx Max Coldrick

while i understand that the law is the law, if my neighbour is on my internet downloading files from torrents, i dont consider that my fault
yes the law states that its my responsibility and i should ‘put measures in place’ to prevent him from doing so, but surely this matter could be resolved at a much higher level if film companies werent naive enough to think they can make a film in a generic format and people wont copy it. if they ‘put measures in place’ to make sure it was more secure, we’d never be in this boat.
- TrollHater
  
  I downloaded a Viv Thomas Porn flick and nowhere anywhere in that awesome flick does it say anything about copyrights. But you know I loved the flick so much I subscribed to their site for a few months. Same as what James Cameron said about Avatar, he said it was one of the most shared flicks in history but was also one the biggest blockbusters in history. You cannot download Avatar and get the same feel as IMAX 3D. Maybe the DVD sales suffered but I would not have bought the DVD anyway but went to see it twice at the IMAX. Inception also, awesome flick at the IMAX. Did I buy the DVD, no. Would I even if torrents did not exist, I still would not buy it. So where are these trolls losing money. They laws are there to control you, to scare you, sound like a Matrix 4 movie to me. It is all a scam to scare you to pay $3500, Neo…. the force is with you.
  
  So there are some things you can P2P without infringement but how do you know until you start watching it and some things.. And James Cameron did not seem to care about the P2P for Avatar, because he isn’t greedy like these other corporate freaks. This whole world is going to shit and we need to stop using the Internet period. A world wide consumer Boycott of the Internet. Wouldn’t it be grand.
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Hurtlocker_lover

im going to jail….
- TrollHater
  
  They can sue you in your home state, you won’t go to jail, but if they win they can get some cash from you… nice time to go bankrupt Chapter 7 and include all your credit cards and that underwater house you been living in since 2008.
http://twitter.com/mindless_6 Mindless

Any 192.168.*.* addresses there?
- that one guy
  
  192.168 is your home internet ip…not the ip that shows for them
  - hehe
    
    he was joking :P
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http://profiles.google.com/zzyzx19 Frank Clucas

So I got a letter from these clowns, but my IP isn’t on the list. WTF?
- TrollHater
  
  Your ISP may have changed your IP. Some ISP will renew your IP lease every 7 days specially if you are logged off for a few days. I have had mine IP with Wideopenwest for over one year, I very seldom log off because I use Skype as my home phone.
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Anonymous

I never understood they come up with the settlement amounts, why not just make them buy a copy of the movie for every person they seeded to?
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dave

Is there a Bittorrent client out there that will let me specify a list of IPs I prefer to seed to? I’ve got a list of 24,583 IP addresses I’d like to raise to the top of my queues… An extension for Transmission would be ideal…
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Pretty sure it got more than 24k downloads…. =/
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  They hire these no nothing Network wannabees to troll for IP address’s with US flags at certain times of the day for a say a month, then they submit that to the judge and again and again. I use TOR, until I get an overseas address. Not fool proof but works, it slower too. Not as slow as using Tor and Privocy together but I don’t P2P much anymore. A few hours a week.
http://www.ashleypearson.net Ashley Pearson

Pretty sure it got more than 24k downloads…. =/
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Anonymous

Half of those are probably proxy addresses.

Proxy FTW!
obsequious

Strictly speaking payout should be limited to actual damages i.e. should be based on the upload ratio e.g. If the ratio was 100% then that individual had only distributed 1 copy, therefore they would only be liable for that. How can they be liable for all and assundry?

A famous man once said the “the law is an ass” and I expect this will be the case here as the law is made by the rich to control the poor.

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