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Is There ANY Part Of The Copyright Monopoly That Meets Legislative Quality Bars?

When making laws, there are nominally quality criteria that need to be met for each new law. Are these quality criteria really fulfilled for the copyright monopoly?

Any new law that is being made somewhere needs to fulfill three quality criteria to be legislated – honorably legislated, at least. It needs to be necessary, effective, and proportionate:

It needs to be necessary – the law being made needs to address a real (or at least perceived) problem.

It needs to be effective – the law being made needs to solve the targeted problem, if enacted.

It needs to be proportionate – the law being made must not create worse problems than the one being solved.

Let’s see how these legislative quality criteria measure up against the different copyright monopolies, shall we?

There are four parts of the copyright monopoly. To begin with, you have two commercial monopolies, those on duplication on fixation of a work and of performance/broadcast of a work. Sadly, these two are treated quite differently in law, but are indistinguishable with the advent of the internet – which is why you see stupid legal constructs that try to assert that there is some kind of server-side difference between streaming media and downloaded media. (Hint: there isn’t.)

Going out on a limb and assuming that these two monopolies can be reconciled into a general commercial “remote duplication” monopoly, is it necessary, effective, and proportionate?

Whether it is necessary depends on your point of view – and above all, what problem you are trying to solve by writing the copyright monopoly into law (or keeping it there). You will hear as many justifications for the copyright monopoly as you hear copyright monopoly advocates. Originally, it was enacted on May 4, 1557 in order to stifle political dissent, when Queen “Bloody” Mary persecuted Protestants and wanted control of subversive pamphlets. That justification would hardly fly today.

Would such a unified commercial monopoly be effective, then? Well, that again depends on your original justification. If the idea is to allow artists to make money – well, 99.98% of artists never see a cent in royalty under the current copyright monopoly system, so the effectiveness can be… disputed, to express ourselves with a slight understatement. On the other hand, if the idea is to legislatively lock in a market for obsolete middlemen, then it is most certainly effective.

But where the commercial unified and imagined “remote duplication” monopoly falls is on proportionality. Any digital channel that can be (and is) used for private communications can also be used to transfer works that are under the copyright monopoly. Therefore, enforcement of the monopoly needs abolishment of the postal secret: you can’t sort legal from illegal without looking at it first, which breaks the postal secret.

A commercial monopoly that breaks the postal secret, a fundamental right and a fundamental liberty, is clearly disproportional.

So let’s take a look at the two other monopolies in the copyright monopoly umbrella – the so-called moral rights.

The first moral right is the right for an artist to prevent a performance of the work that violates the integrity of the artist or the work. I fail to see what problem this law tries to solve. Surely an artist could object to a development of his or her work – but that’s what art is: its beauty is in the eye of the beholder, not in the pen of the artist. No artist gets to own the perception of his or her art after it has been released. What problem, what real problem, is this law – this monopoly – trying to solve?

The second moral right is the right for artists to be associated with his or her work. This right carries significant social support – so much support, in fact, that the social penalties for violating this association are severe, and significantly harsher than any laws upholding this monopoly.

After all, if you plagiarise part of a thesis in academia, you get fired from the profession for life. A €100 fine is hardly going to make a difference in that context. Thus, while the norm carries public support, adding a €100 fine to the social penalty does absolutely nothing and is unnecessary.

In summarizing, the copyright monopoly rates abysmally in terms of legislative quality. It has no place in our laws if quality is a virtue for legislators, and it should be – for legislators as for every craft – but the monopoly needs to be dismantled gradually due to its infiltration everywhere.

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Rick Falkvinge is a regular columnist on TorrentFreak, sharing his thoughts every other week. He is the founder of the Swedish and first Pirate Party, a whisky aficionado, and a low-altitude motorcycle pilot. His blog at falkvinge.net focuses on information policy.

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  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    Right on all points. Bottom lining it here: all the copyright laws need repealed and reformed. Both.

    • yello

      bottom line, we all know where the piece of legislature belongs…..

      • FrostyC

        bottom line: Fuck copyright and the horse it rode in on. Data & information should be free.

        • loggoe

          As it is, copyright sucks.

          Fairs fair.
          if a site get’s ad revenue from hosting mp3 downloads the site should have to give some of that revenue to the artist, but should be allowed to host and distribute the files anyway without needing a “license”. illegal

          If an artist remixes anothers work without license, they should be allowed to sell that remixed work, with the condition that a percentage goes to the original creator. illegal

          currently, not even close to fair.

    • thedude321

      I agree. But Rick is actually gave readers the better half. There are many other parts of this law, enacted in countries like Canada, where the law is completely disproportionate. For example, in Canada, if you rip a DVD, and you are proven guilty, you get 7 years in prison. Compare that to 6 years for manslaughter.

      Furthermore, there is a part of the quality control that Rick forgot to mention and that is, that the law must be feasible. In this case, the law is not feasible, you cannot mass police an international community of billions of devices, it simply cannot be done, we do not have the proper software or the right equipment to handle that load of pressure. Rick put it well, you cannot determine what is infringing and what is not infringing on the internet.

      Many people have had their backups of completely legal files on Mediafire wiped out because of the DMCA, now who is going to answer for that?

      Also, I would like to thank Mr. Falkvinge for telling us how the Copyright law was originally made as a law for suppression of the people. I think that was the best part in his whole article.

      • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

        Mediafire – you can *legally* backup your own work, but I think the problem comes when they share that backup with thousands of other people.  Copyright protects (or attempts to) the right to copy and distribute.

        I use Mediafire for lots of my files, but it’s all stuff I created and own.   

        • Anyone

          the problem with the way some companies handle DMCA is to delete all files, not just the reported link
          that’s how legal copies that have not been shared get deleted

          the MAFIAA should have no business in censoring websites with such takedowns, they should adapt their business model to the new reality

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          Yeah, but wasn’t that a risk they took when they chose to share stuff they shouldn’t be sharing?

        • Anyone

          @Kunu:disqus 
          let’s say I bought Avatar on Bluray
          I want a digital backup, just in case something happens to my disc, which I am allowed to have.
          now, I have no idea how to properly rip and encode a Bluray into x264, so I simply downloaded a scene rip and uploaded that to MediaFire so I have it backed up in the cloud so I don’t have to rely on my own harddrive. so far, so legal

          now, MediaFire gets a DMCA about that file because some other user shared a link, and MediaFire the good overreaching lapdogs that they are are not satisfied with just deleting that link, they are deleting my file as well because it shares the checksum with the infringing file

          now how is that fair?
          why does the MAFIAA have the right to deprive me of my property?

        • Guest

           Jay, how is that a risk that Anyone took on by not sharing his file?  Mediafire went an extra step beyond DMCA and deleted non shared copies of the file.  However, Anyone is wrong in saying that downloading a scene release instead of backing up his own disk is legal, for amazingly stupid reasons, it’s not, and is still considered infringement.

        • Anyone

          @ac772b48d6728242138b1df18c9716e5:disqus
          it is legal in my country

        • Guest

          Copyright will be uber fucked when 3D printing becomes a reality for the whole population, you wouldn’t download a car would you?

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          Well, once you get other industries into the copyright war, that’s BAD for file sharing – it means more resources will come down on distribution networks in favor of stricter copyright regulations.. Right now file sharing mostly just pisses off the entertainment industry.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery


          but I think the problem comes when they share that backup with thousands of other people.”

          And the only solution is to prevent everyone from freely communicating. Communists discovered this tidbit in the 30′s which is why the modern-day DMCA resembles the old-style stalinist approach to communication.

          If freedom of speech exists you will have in effect unlimited filesharing as well. That’s an unavoidable side effect. That being the case we end up right back to the question whether copyright outranks the right to communicate.

          I think not.

      • chronoss chiron

        no YOU TERD YOU DON’T GET 7 YEARS PRISON YOU GET A FINE WORTH 20,000 WHICH AS I SAID BEFORE THE FUCKING ADMIN NUKED IT THE MAX TIME YOU GET FOR FINES EQUATES TO 10$  = 1 DAY OR 6.7 YEARS MAX 

        GOD I HATE IDIOT WEBSITES LIKE THIS ,

        WRITTEN IN CAPS CAUSE YOU DAMN WELL NEED EMPHASIS

        • McCheezits

          It seems to me that one laddie by the name of @google-8deb2585acdb8455ed06c714b2a17316:disqus is enraged by TorrentFreak. I find this to be ridiculously humorous.

        • ANo

          I approve of your rage.

        • ANo

          for being too poor to pay a fine…..
          I heard it was 12 years max.

          6.7 max ?
          Little bitch… please,  it’s 12 years.

        • Anyone

          good, good, let the hate flow through you

      • http://falkvinge.net/ Rick Falkvinge

        Dear thedude321,

        if you were surprised by the beginning of the copyright monopoly and liked that part, I would heartily recommend the full story: The history of copyright.

        Cheers,
        Rick

        • thedude321

          Thank you for your personal reply. I will read this, and get back to you, if you would be willing to hear what I hate to say.

  • chronoss chiron

    adlib 
    in canada a charter right also states it has to be an enforceable law, as such the current copyright law could be on that grounds against our rights….

    ALSO one might argue it do penalties of said law match the rest of ones system…in canada the max time you can get per fine is 10$ = 1 day in jail.

    manslaughter sits a min 7 years up to 12 years or so….

    1 dvd cracked = 6.7 years max 
    another potential violation this being called CRUEL and UNUSUAL

    recently the police have taken it upon themselves to say they are not enforcing the copyright law or sections of it because its convent to them for now….since when do cops get to tell anyone what laws to enforce…..i say enforce it and show how bad a law it is in canada…..

    another example is the montreal police deciding not to enforce a recent law passed by the provincial govt….as defacto proof the police aRE RUNNING THE COUNTRY NOT THE MPS 

    • noko

       so the police gave a big fyou for the stupid laws. why is that a bad thing now?

      • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

         because as long as they’re unenforced, they don’t go away, leaving them there for a time when someone decides to get really draconian and, guess what? everything they’re doing is legal because the laws are already there. But if the laws are enforced, then we can get rid of them as a violation of the country’s charter.

        • chronoss chiron

          OR lets make examples of anyone that talks…..OR makes waves for our totalitarian regime nazi style.ALSO as i said if laws are unenforceable by the charter they are illegal….its right in the charter….

          you cant make a law that you can’t breathe air on sundays….its unenforceable.

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  • PirateSoldier

    The artists should unite and rebel against the labels then copyright reform would take place as the industry would panic. They should get royalties but as usual greedy cats want more milk so decide to fuck everyone over and then blame piracy for lost profits….yawn. We’ve heard it all before. How about changing the business model that us normal people have been demanding for years instead of being stuck in the VCR days.

    • Anonymous

       ”Being stuck in the VCR days”
      Totally agree with you, PirateSoldier.  I used to feel somewhat sorry for the record companies and movie companies, because technology was moving too fast for them to keep up with.  Now I realize it’s their own fault for sticking with archaic laws and also not embracing change in media distribution. 
      They have no one to blame but themselves.  This ‘scorched earth’ policy they also take with downloading is also not helping their case.

      • RIAAtarded

        tech didn’t move to slow at all if anything it has helped them get richer and richer. Format shifts and then you need to buy a new type of media. Records, 8 tracks, cassettes, CD, mini disks, MP3s… beta, VHS, laser disk, DVD, HDdvd, Bluray.. I’m old enough to have seen and owned the same thing in several formats. Nothing has changed but I have to ask myself when you have had to purchase the same thing 4-5 times to keep up with technology you tend to get tired of the hit to the wallet. Then when it come to a level that it is easily transportable in such a way they aren’t making money of ever single change they try and regulate the licencing / copyright to offset that. 

        • Anyone

          they tried hard to fight the VHS and casette using the same arguments as today

          they fight every new technology with tooth and nail

        • chronoss chiron

          we are now approaching h265 which will have the size of h264 which means in standard definition you could do a movie in about 180 meg and a tv ep in about 130 meg

          think xvids at 700 and know were getting there….

        • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

           Yup, I too got REALLY fed-up having to buy the same items I already owned simply due to improvements in technology.  And these greed-fuelled “content industry” oligarchs did NOTHING whatsoever to assist us owners – ie no offer of discounts, no recognition of our financial pain, and no soothing of our moral outrage at being repeatedly ripped-off :<

          In fact the Media Moguls deliberately marketed their shit with a view to ripping us all off each and every time there was a format shift and we had to purchase YET AGAIN what we already owned.

          Now these same greedy monsters and their legion of CopyWrong Trolls are moaning about piracy, even though we've already paid time and time again.  Well enough is ENOUGH, and we refuse to be ripped off any longer.  In fact this needs a political solution with a MAJOR reform of CopyWrong law.  But that aint gonna happen unless we put pressure on our politicians to make the needed changes.

          And the best way to do that is to join and support your local Pirate Party.  Then write to your elected politicians in the other Parties and ask them, with reasons, why the law needs to change.

        • Death

          I am very surprised that you did not cry BS the moment you saw something on a different format and you found out that you could not upgrade or do otherwise, for free, to your original purchase. Instead, you went and paid for it again. Why would you ever pay for something you bought over a decade ago again (like buying a music file that is in wav, and then buying it again in flac, or games on the NES again on the Wii)?!

    • chronoss chiron

      whats a vcr?

      • Allez Up

        The basis of an extremely important ruling in the USA? ;)

  • Anyone

    Rick, when is your website coming back?

  • ObambulateJoint3
  • Steve Smith

    It meets the bar of the people pushing for it but never solves the real problem. 

    • Anyone

      it solves their problem of becoming obsolete

      it is tough to be a candlemaker in a lightbulb world

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002639684444 Ryan Smith

    Right off the bat with the “perceived problem” part… many perceive file-sharing, for example, to be theft which is essentially false. Any legislation built upon a false premise is bound to have horrible consequences.

    • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

      Just because the public perceives file-sharing as theft does not mean that the law was built on a false premise.  I’m not even sure how you made that leap.

      • Guest321

        What you said makes no sense. The public does not perceive file-sharing as theft.

      • chronoss chiron

        really the only idiots that calll it theft are the lawyers , there cop friends and the labels and politicians they buy off….

        the fact is over 50% of the home users in canada were/are simaltaneously logged into a p2p network of some kind…..as of 2006…..

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        According to most polls the public does not consider filesharing to be “theft”. Indeed, most people apparently find themselves hard-pressed to agree that making a copy should be considered “illegal” at all.

        And that is where the moral justification for copyright breaks down.

        The false premise is that copyright law is being peddled with the motivation that artists are losing money otherwise. And this is manifestly not true. Hence the law is built on a false premise.

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  • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

    Are you posting here because your site is down, Rick? ;) Hopefully falkvinge.net isn’t being subjected to a massive DDOS as well.

    • BJonesTF

      Since it’s using Cloudflare, DDOS’ don’t really affect it that much. It’s probably the server hosting it is offline again.

      • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

         …of course my next question is why you’re hanging around, Ben? don’t you ever take a day off? It’s like, Sunday.

        …unless it’s not, I guess. don’t know where you are.

        • Guest321

          It’s Monday.

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

           @24f59f7fbc5454a966ab6f0d7ce65e6a:disqus shit. I’ve been at work way too long then

  • http://culturalliberty.org/blog Crosbie Fitch

    Firstly, don’t confuse moral rights (which are actually rights) with copyright which is a privilege (our right to copy annulled, to be left, by exclusion, in the hands of a few – copyright holders).

    Secondly, believe it or not, but there are actually natural monopolies. Only Rick Falkvinge can author writings by Rick Falkvinge. No-one else can truthfully claim to do so. Therefore Rick Falkvinge has a monopoly on the production of writings by Rick Falkvinge. Because this monopoly is natural it cannot be abolished. Copyright, being a state granted monopoly can and should be abolished.

    The moral right to integrity is simply about the inviolable truth. You cannot abridge this comment and truthfully claim it is the comment I posted.

    That said, the legislation protecting moral rights (where it exists) often goes above and beyond securing the natural right and privileges the author with unnatural power, e.g. providing them with a veto over derivatives they feel impugn their reputation. Of course, we have no natural right to protect our reputation, but the powerful don’t hesitate to make laws that have it otherwise, e.g. defamation.

    Law is not determined by ‘necessity/effectiveness/proportionality’, but by the people’s empowerment of a government to secure the people’s natural rights. Anything more than that is corruption. http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html

  • Andrew me

    We all know copyright needs to change but it must be changed for the interest of music and art not for the profits of big fat tycoons who do not care about any artist unless they can suck money out of them like vampires. The people need input into any copyright laws, the artists too, big business should and must build there business around that , if they want to, if not they can FOAD.

    I wish that torrentfreak or another site could do a story about Milli Vanilli that was banned from playing music and from releasing it, either in stores or on radio. Imagine the outcry now on the internet, imagine the support they would have gained if they were to release there first album now. How did the music industry manage to get away with destroying them, i loved there music at the time and would love to have known what they would have sounded like now, if they had been allowed to actually continue working in the music industry instead of a few idiots using propaganda to destroy them.So what, they proved the music industry was promoting black artists at the time, to the extent that the real singers behind mili vanili proved it. They shamed the music industry and for that the music industry destroyed them, this should not have been allowed to happen,ever.
     

    • Andrew me

      Tried editing my milli vanilli reference but could not…sorry my facts are a bit mixed up.

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        You can do edits via your Dashboard at disqus.com Andrew.

        Login to your disqus account, then click “You only”.
        Find the post you wish to edit, and click on the wee pencil at bottom-right of your entry.  It’s between the Reply arrow, and the Delete or X buttons.

        Simple as that.  And it’s what I too have to do too, as I can’t edit my own posts using the Edit button on TF.  But it works fine via disqus, OK?

    • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

      It’s nice to think that artist should get 100% of their profits, but media corporations do deserve a cut of the dough (that cut is established when a contract is written) because the corporation invests money into those artists.  Those corporations are offering their services – their connections and the skills of their employees.  You will often have a group of 5 or so musicians, but to support that group there’s an entire army of employees making them seen and working to make them profitable.  Corporations aren’t evil.  They’re people, trying to make a living – some people will make more of a living than others, but life isn’t fair and was never meant to be.

      The problem with Milli Vanilli is that they weren’t singing their own songs – their manager was recording the tracks and Milli Vanilli (the duo) was pretending to sing.  If they were to release their own album afterwards it probably wouldn’t sound all that great. 

      • Anyone

        the problem is the MAFIAA is obsolete, other companies can do the promotion cheaper and more effective, yet they still cling on because they extorted ridiculous contracts out of their artists back when they were the only game in town.

        the copyright monopoly and with it the MAFIAA has to be dismantled for the benefit of artists and culture

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          Copyright law and the actions of the MAFIAA are two separate issues.  Copyrights can still exist without the MAFIAA.

        • Anyone

          @Kunu:disqus
          true, but it doesn’t have to

          and if it has to exist limit it to 5 years, after that everything is public domain

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          @Kunu:disqus 

          The problem is that copyright generates MAFIAA-style organizations in the same way the prohibition ensured the rise of Al Capone.

          Bluntly put, whenever there is skewed law generating vast profit opportunities at a detriment to the majority, it is inevitable that you will find organizations such as the MPAA and Ifpi sprouting like mushrooms out of damp soil.

  • Gear Mentation

    Nicely put Falkvinge, tell us more about “but the monopoly needs to be dismantled gradually due to its infiltration everywhere.”

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  • JustCurious

    Rick: “Originally, it was enacted on May 4, 1557 in order to stifle political
    dissent, when Queen “Bloody” Mary persecuted Protestants and wanted
    control of subversive pamphlets. That justification would hardly fly
    today.”

    Could you provide some context to this?

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

       http://falkvinge.net/2011/02/02/history-of-copyright-part-2-tudoric-feud/

  • Cujo

    good read Rick

    here is a little more to stimulate one’s thought lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FD9urcUWXw&feature=related

  • Banana

    i think copyright by itself is obsolete

  • Chad

    My take on the bigger picture is that Copyright and the Internet are just not compatible with each other at the moment. The Internet is all about copying files from machine to machine – be it a file or a memory buffer, and be it text, audio, images, video or whatever other content exists. The Internet is essentially one big file sharing system, with links and DNS being the core factors in the system. Either Copyright has to get obliterated or the Internet gets watered down into something much more useless than it is now.

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

       The internet is a machine designed for copying. That’s what it does, that’s what it was made to do since the ARPANET of years ago. It’s nobody’s fault that it copies stuff that is still under the copyright stranglehold, blame Mickey Mouse and Sonny Bono for that.

  • Startrekken1

    The law is upside down i would almost say its like this i can kill a man in the most brutal way and all i will get is a slap on the wrist but if i took his wallet NOW i´m in serious trouble.                             

    • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

      Not at all.  Brutally murdering someone is the worst offense one can make.  Stealing something will never have a harsher punishment than murder. 

      • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

         I see reading comprehension is still something you’re having an issue with.

        While it is an exaggeration for him to specify “in the most brutal way,” Canadian law gives a harsher penalty to copying a DVD (something that should be a property right under any other law for something rightfully bought and paid for) than it does for manslaughter.

        Additionally, I’m not sure where exactly the concept of stealing comes into it…more straw men I suspect, since copyright infringement is not stealing, as has been determined in Dowling v. United States. Please stop referring to it as such, it is erroneous.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

           Aw, you’re retarded comment was too good to delete: 

          ” I see reading comprehension is still something you’re having an issue with.

          While
          it is an exaggeration for him to specify “in the most brutal way,”
          Canadian law gives a harsher penalty to copying a DVD (something that
          should be a property right under any other law for something rightfully
          bought and paid for) than it does for manslaughter.

          Additionally,
          I’m not sure where exactly the concept of stealing comes into it…more
          straw men I suspect, since copyright infringement is not stealing, as
          has been determined in Dowling v. United States. Please stop referring
          to it as such, it is erroneous.”

          Jeez you’re a tool.

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

          @Kunu:disqus

          yeah, it was kind of ironic, since I wasn’t paying attention to the original poster, but whatever. I’d rather be a tool than a complete and utter fuckwad.

          Pretty sad when you’ve been spnaked so hard that you can’t save face except by reposting the comments of one correcting his mistakes, but whatever, internet hero.

  • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

    You call for the abolishment of they copyright system, but what would you replace it with?  How would artists and craftsmen protect their work?  

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

       That’s a straw man argument.

      Rick advocates restricting copyright, not abolishing it. I believe the current consensus is a 5 -10 year term. Plenty of time for content creators to restrict their work when it’s pertinent, and release it to the public domain when it can be of some benefit culturally.

      • Guest

         A “consensus” according to who?

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

           Your mom.

          Sorry, I meant to say suggestion. You’re right, consensus is unsupported here, I don’t know the people involved one way or another. I’d say copyright reform advocates, but there’s so many of them with differing thoughts that that doesn’t necessarily fly either. plus, my stat was wrong, too.

      • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

         How is that a straw man argument?  I asked two very reasonable questions. The conclusion of the article states:  “the monopoly needs to be dismantled gradually due to its infiltration everywhere.”

        Dismantled. Annihilate, break down, demolish, etc.  The author advocates the destruction of the current system, but offers no other way for artists and content creators to protect their work.  Copyright law exists to punish those that copy and distribute original creations.  Without the copyright system of law, how would we punish those that take our designs and distribute it themselves?  Should their be NO consequence for such an action? 

        It’s one thing to want to break down or demolish a system, which is understandable if that system is a burden on one’s chosen lifestyle, but without a plan to correct the perceived mistakes or misguidance of that system, then it only comes across as a form of zealotry, or at the very least anarchy. 

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

          it’s a straw man argument because you’re attributing something to him that he didn’t say. a gradual dismantling is not the same as annihilation. hyperbole doesn’t suit you very well.

          As for the rest,

          http://www.copyrightreform.eu/sites/copyrightreform.eu/files/The_Case_for_Copyright_Reform.pdf

          • Moral Rights Unchanged
          We propose no changes at all to the moral right of the author to
          be recognized as the author.

          • Free Non-Commercial Sharing
          We want to restore copyright to its origins, and make absolutely
          clear that it only regulates copying for commercial purposes. To
          share copies, or otherwise spread or make use of use somebody
          else’s copyrighted work, should never be prohibited if it is done
          by private individuals without a profit motive. Peer-to-peer file
          sharing is an example of such an activity that should be legal.

          • 20 Years Of Commercial Monopoly (I thought it was 5-10, I was mistaken)
          We want to shorten the protection time to something that is reasonable
          from both society’s and an investor’s point of view, and
          propose 20 years from publication.

          • Registration After 5 Years
          Copyright protection should be given automatically like it is
          today to newly published works, but rights owners who want
          to continue to exercise their commercial exclusivity of a work
          beyond the first 5 years after publication should be required to
          register the right, in such a way that it can be found by a diligent
          search of public rights databases. This will solve the orphan
          works problem.

          • Free Sampling
          Today’s ever more restrictive copyright legislation and practice is
          a major obstacle to musicians, film makers, and other artists who
          want to create new works by reusing parts of existing works. We
          want to change this by introducing clear exceptions and limitations
          to allow remixes and parodies, as well as quotation rights
          for sound and audiovisual material modeled after the quotation
          rights that already exist for text.

          • A Ban on DRM
          It must always be legal to circumvent DRM restrictions, and we
          should consider introducing a ban in the consumer rights legislation
          on DRM technologies that restrict legal uses of a work.
          There is no point in having our parliaments introduce a balanced
          and reasonable copyright legislation, if at the same time we allow
          the big multinational corporations to write their own laws,
          and enforce them through technical means.

          Hope this helps.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

           @Gene_P00le:disqus That’s not what “straw man argument” means.  I didn’t even take him out of context.  It’s right there:  “the monopoly needs to be dismantled.”  And no, it’s not hyperbole if the words mean exactly the same thing. 

          Your comment, while informative, doesn’t answer my question.  You’ve listed ways that would make sharing a lot easier, but you haven’t listed a single thing about how to *protect* the work of the content creator himself (whether a person or business entity). 

          You’re saying the same thing as the article, basically:  all file-sharing should be risk-free and legal.  Which is to say that anything I or any other artist creates is automatically the property of the masses to do with as they wish.  Am I exaggerating? 

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

           @Kunu:disqus

          actually I answered your question in two separate areas. You asked two questions, no?

          You call for the abolishment of they copyright system, but what would you replace it with?

          see below.

          How would artists and craftsmen protect their work? 

          “Well, ”how” is not really for us to say as politicians. To find a
          business model that works is up to the individual entrepreneur, in
          the cultural sector just as in any other industry. But we are certain
          that the cultural sector as a whole will continue to do well, as demonstrated
          by economic statistics from more than a decade of rampant
          file sharing. There is no conflict between file sharing and the
          production of new culture, quite the opposite. Our proposal is good
          for the artists, both from a creative and an economic point of view.”

          in other words, that’s the artists and craftsmen’s problem, profiting from their work. It’s nobody else’s responsibility but their own. And it’s not a reason to hold to the old ways that don’t work in today’s technological advancements. The solution isn’t to further restrict liberties and freedoms in pursuit of old laws when the dynamic has changed, the solution is to change the laws to align with the current state of the world and adapt to the opportunities available.

          Beyond that, I don’t think you understand the purpose of copyright; it’s not to protect your work, it’s to enhance culture by ensuring you have the opportunity to profit from your work. In today’s society profiting from your work is not a problem, see the massive shifts and innovations that have happened with the advent of the internet.

          And again, it’s not the consumers’ responsibility to ensure your work is protected or ensure you can make a profit, it’s yours as content creators. Nobody else’s

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

           @Kunu:disqus  and yes, that’ is what a straw man argument is. You were using different words and misrepresenting his statement to mean something more extreme than he stated. That’s the very definition of straw man

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

           @Gene_P00le:disqus I didn’t misinterpret his words – that’s not what a straw man argument means, regardless.  For one, I’d actually have to be making an argument.  To make a straw man argument I would have to misinterpret his argument, then counter that misinterpretation with a counter-point.  THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.  I asked two questions, and I gave other words with the same meaning as “dismantled”.  HOW one dismantles, albeit slowly or with loving passion, does not matter.  The act is still the same. 

          And no, you haven’t answered my question.  The paragraph you pasted says they have no answer.  That’s a non-answer. 

          Your definition of the purpose of copyright is completely wrong.  I guess you posted what you *feel* copyright *should* be about.  That’s fine if that’s your ideological view, but copyright is strictly a set of laws that protects content creators by punishing those that don’t want to follow the rules.  That’s what laws are: a list of consequences and guidelines in which to conduct business and live within ones means. 

          New technology does not live independent from society.  It is an extension of it – therefore it is right to say that it needs to be managed and policed and regulated just like anything else that is created by humans.

          You say it’s the responsibility of the artist to make their works profitable, and you don’t care how they do it.  The way I see it, the best way for me to be profitable is if we all play by the same rules. So, I guess you wouldn’t have a problem with a bunch of artists getting together to form a corporation, petition the government to organize a system that protects their creations from rivals, then investing money into legal protection from the government in the form of a copyright – so that those who infringe upon said copyright will be punished as written, by law.

          That’s what happens when you let people be free to choose how they want to live: they create laws and rules that protect their livelihood, their ability to profit, and their property.

          “Culture” is not a basis for any logical argument regarding copyright law.   

           
           

        • Anyone

          @Kunu:disqus
          Government should not be in charge of enforcing a monopoly
          if the MAFIAA can’t work in the free market, it should go bankrupt
          it should certainly not try and censor the whole world just to protect their failed business model

          look at Coldplay, NIN or Louis CK, they all made good money without the MAFIAA or without censoring anybody
          a world without copyright can work, it’s just that the MAFIAA is out of a job in that world because they can’t run their protection scheme anymore

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

          @Kunu:disqus

          I see reading comprehension is an ongoing issue for you.

          I can’t assume that you are actually from the United States, you could be on the east coast of Canada…or Mexico, I suppose. Panama?

          Regardless, the most significant article regarding copyright in North America is the US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 8. You may want to take a look at it:

          ” To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by
          securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their
          respective Writings and Discoveries.”,

          So the purpose of copyright, specifically, is not to punish those that don’t want to follow the rules, or ecen necessarily protect creators. It’s to promote the progress of science and useful arts. Its method is by securing exclusive rights to authors and inventors (and that’s it, by the way, not musicians, or software programmers, or iPhone theme creators) to their writings and discoveries.

          Beyond that, you’re right. I responded to your question with a non-answer. but with that said, it’s a valid response. It really isn’t anyone else’s responsibility to ensure the artists get paid. That’s the responsibility of the artists. That’s also not the purpose of copyright. royalties came after, and they have nothing to do with the original intent of copyright.

          As far as technology goes, for someone who utilizes it as part of their career I can’t help but think you’re so out of touch that it’s embarrassing. the law is not there to stifle technology and shove square pegs into round holes. You sound like Jack Valenti complaining about the VCR. the fact is that filesharing is here to stay, and it will never get any harder to copy than it is currently. From this point, it just gets easier.

          Beyond that, the whole “problem” with filesharing has come about by equating the public with corporations. The public has nothing to do with copyright, because the public doesn’t understand copyright. The public understands property rights, as in “I bought it so it’s mine”, and that’s as it should be. But unfortunately the digital age has made the act of sharing, which has occurred without restrictions since the dawn of man, trackable. The problem is somehow we’ve put a printing press into the hands of every man woman and child in the world (and you can thank the Germans for that) and now we complain because these same people are using the printing press to print out what they want to share. It’s happened for a thousand years regardless of the draconian laws that have been created to restrict it and it will continue to happen.

          I guess what I’m saying is something I’ve mentioned to you before:

          Adapt or die, motherfucker.

          (edited because I forgot to close my fucking html, fuck)

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          I’ll respond to the last bit first: adapt or die. One cannot adapt to the distribution of their creations for free. File-sharing does NOT promote adaptation. That’s simply not what it’s for. It’s for free stuff. That’s it. There’s no greater philosophical underpinnings. It’s “you have something, I want it, so I’m going to take it.” You can build a society on that principle, but it’s going to be a shit-hole (and it is). You’re super-cool catch-phrase doesn’t apply in this context.

          And now on to your very poor analysis of this quote:

          “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by
          securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their
          respective Writings and Discoveries.”

          This helps my argument more than it does yours. This is /exactly/ right. I *am* an author you retard. I’m also an inventor of useful arts – the artwork I invent and sell allows me to make money, which is very useful. Such a copyright would “secure exclusive rights” to my work. That means that there is a punishment if that exclusivity is breached. Why do you think laws exist, just for the fun of it? Laws exist to define guidelines through a system of punishments and rewards. Your ignorance of simple concepts often trips me up. If that’s your intention then bravo, good sir.
          You’re bad at interpreting law (aka, *words*), though. And I’m very good with technology, as I’m sure you’re aware. You’ve seen some of my work I assume, since you’ve stalked me. Very flattering, that. I bet you know all about me now.

          I’m not saying that file-sharing can ever be stopped. I would never claim that. But the pervasiveness or hardiness of a system does not justify its existence, nor does it justify a ‘right’ to such a service or system. I’m not even saying that all file-sharing should be punished – it’s very useful to me. All I’m saying is that the government should find a way to punish those that insist on distributing lawfully secured works by authors and inventors with exclusive rights.

          You’re really boring me now. I think I’ve trawled the extent of your ability to critically think. Good show, though.

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

           @Kunu:disqus

          The only thing you’re right about is this is getting boring. Think you misspelled “troll”, though. Don’t worry, I’ll keep that in mind when I read future posts of yours.

          I didn’t stalk you, I clicked your disqus icon. My apologies if that was a little too invasive for you.

          If it was so hard to adapt to people sharing one’s content, surely nobody would be able to profit, or thrive in such an environment. but that’s not true, as I think we can all agree.

          http://www.copyrightreform.eu/sites/copyrightreform.eu/files/The_Case_for_Copyright_Reform.pdf

          again, read it. It’s very informative.

          Oct 2010, The Econoomist:
          “Rising income from live performance, merchandising, sponsorship,
          publishing, online streaming and emerging markets has come
          to counterbalance losses from declining CD sales. As a result, some
          musicians are singing a different tune. Last year a new group, the
          Featured Artists Coalition, objected to government plans to punish
          file-sharers by suspending their broadband connections. Its leaders,
          including established artists such as Billy Bragg and Annie Lennox,
          argue that file-sharing is a useful form of promotion.”

          UK 2004 – 2008 : Record companies lose, artists gain from
          file sharing

          Sweden 2000 – 2008: More Charts The Record Labels Don’t
          Want You To See: Swedish Musicians Making More Money

          Norway 1999 – 2009: Artists Make More Money in File-Sharing
          Age Than Before It

          2009, Harvard Study: Harvard Study Finds Weaker
          Copyright Protection Has Benefited Society.

          …so yeah. It’s not hard to adapt or die. In fact, many have flourished as a result. The ones who refuse to adapt, well…you heard me.

          As far as the rest, you have this tendency to (deliberately) miss the points I was making and take minutiae or unrelated points out of context to move on to another topic. Every time you’re refuted, you come back with some useless bullshit that’s completely unrelated. Regardless of your interpretation, unless you really can’t understand what you read, the purpose of copyright is plainly clear (hint: it’s the part that starts with “To”)

          But, really, the one thing you had right was that you’re a troll, and you’re boring. There’s no killfile on Disqus so I’ma have to do it the old fashioned way and let someone else beat you around a little bit. you bore me.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          Are you reading the Disqus posts I’m making on other sites?

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

           @Kunu:disqus

          ugh. okay, pulled back in for the purpose of clarification:

          no:

          http://disqus.com/Kunu/

          “Creator of amazing iPhone themes.”

          Eastern Coast of North Ameri…

          …ca, I’m guessing.

          that’s all.

          ta.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          I don’t believe you.

      • Anyone

        and legalize non-profit sharing

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

       Actually, Engstrom and Falkvinge’s book, http://www.copyrightreform.eu/sites/copyrightreform.eu/files/The_Case_for_Copyright_Reform.pdf already addresses this concern. You really should do your own homework, though:

      “Well, ”how” is not really for us to say as politicians. To find a
      business model that works is up to the individual entrepreneur, in
      the cultural sector just as in any other industry. But we are certain
      that the cultural sector as a whole will continue to do well, as demonstrated
      by economic statistics from more than a decade of rampant
      file sharing. There is no conflict between file sharing and the
      production of new culture, quite the opposite. Our proposal is good
      for the artists, both from a creative and an economic point of view.”

    • Guest
    • Guest

      @Jay:twitter 
      “One cannot adapt to the distribution of their creations for free.”

      lolwut

      All digital creations are now distributed for free thanks to piracy, but people still make money off of their digital creations anyway. So the premise of your argument is false. 

      • Guest

         PC videogames are doing great and they basically work under a donations system, players buy what they enjoy to encourage the companies that make good products.
        And it’s now being taken to an extreme with all the prepaid crowdfunded stuff going on everywhere, though that’s still super new.

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  • Guest

     Many of the problem here come from general ignorance and gullibility from the lawmakers when it comes to this kine of things.
    Another part comes from the warped perceptions of the people that have a hard time understanding all the new concepts that come with the digital age and unlearning fallacies they got so used to.

    We might see better laws when people demand them, when any person merely suggesting that a copy might be the same thing as stealing gets laughed at immediately.

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  • Asdf

    here in my city there’s a law that requires you to check if the elevator is there (or gaze into the empty elevator pit) before entering. go figure…

  • mengabooo

    They do indeed tend to make it up as they go along lol.
    IT-Privacy.tk 

  • Shogunreaper

    @f05af58b8c10e93b3595bb996aad4e5d:disqus

    Technically its not legal to download a movie just because you have payed and bought it.

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

       depends where you are. Many countries have archival copy laws.

    • Anyone

      in many countries it is (as long as you don’t upload, so torrents are out)

      • Shogunreaper

        So then its legal to just download movies? Because there would be no way to know for sure if you actually owned it.

        • Anyone

          in some countries, yes, downloading (and streaming) is legal, uploading is generally not

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  • Cujo

    if I was told that when it snows, I can’t make a snowball and ding my buddy on the back of the head without paying for the right to make that snowball, I would certainly wait till no one is looking and wam!,  he’s gettin it,  cause I’m standing in a foot of snow.

    • Cujo

      And that’s what the problem is with copyright. I can get a computer, dvd burner, dvd media, internet connection, vpn service and what ever else I need, easily available. Then someone says, well don’t you dare make a copy, while sitting on your butt with coffee and a smoke. Well I’m thinking to myself, what fukin planet is said someone from. Not the real world, I’m thinking.

      • ScrewEwe2

        What’s alway’s amazed me is that Sony makes computers, dvd and cd burners, blank dvd and cd discs in adition to movies and music. What the hell do they think people are using their computers, dvd and cd burners and blank dvd and cd discs for, archiving pictures of granny changing a diaper for a baby that just took a stanky ass dump? Is that child porn by the way? Does Sony condone child porn being manufactured on their computers, burners and media? I’m going to boycott blank Sony dvd discs, but I’ll probably still utilize their movies.

  • Cujo

    Now, if you got 350 million people throwing snowballs at each other, well I’d say applying a copyright on snowballs simply doesn’t make any sense cause everyone will just wait till no one is looking before sockin his buddy on the back of the head with one.

    Copyright on digital content does not work ,, it’s as simple as that.  ;)

    • Wormlore

      That’s rating based on “efficiency” which is what the original article seemed to forget along the way.
      To sum it up:
      - necessity: disputed… we might consider it though, since “some people” seems to insist there is a problem. Well, seeing how “these people” are always the same, the review should be quick.
      - efficiency: null… they tried many approaches and none succeeded, not even for a moment. It only helped spawning multiple other ways to do the same thing, pushing further and further away the chances they had of tracking usages in a legitimate way to better reward successful artists.
      - proportionality: dubious at the beginning, outright out of the window in more recent attempts… every time they realize point 2 was not achieved, they just go bludgeoning more and more blindly any fundamental liberty they haven’t already crushed.

  • PRIVACY is priceless to me

    Laws are there just to protect the worse criminals on Earth: the fucking useless worse-than-nazi mass-murdering billionaires.
    There’s no democracy anywhere just generalized one-thought plutocracy.

  • Jimbo

    ‘ Therefore, enforcement of the monopoly needs abolishment of the postal
    secret: you can’t sort legal from illegal without looking at it first,
    which breaks the postal secret.’

    am i not right and that, even though people pay to use the Postal Service, government and law enforcement can open your mail, read what’s inside and then send it on it’s original way, without telling the sender or receiver what has happened? with that ‘right’ having been extended into ALL forms of communications, what is the point of having it? we may all just as well have everything checked first!

    • http://falkvinge.net/ Rick Falkvinge

      While this is true, it may only be done when somebody is under individual, specific, and prior suspicion of a serious crime. This is detailed in the European Charter of Human Rights and other places.

      What that means is that you cannot open somebody’s communication to look for crimes. However, if somebody is already under suspicion of another crime, and it is serious enough, a state may order their communications intercepted to find proof of it.

      • Jimbo

         tnx for the clarification Rick. however, i doubt very much whether any government or law enforcement agency takes too much notice of that. we are living in a more and more restrictive, censored and surveilled society and the people, their rights and their freedoms are the least important. too many things are done ‘in the name of the people’ etc when in fact they are done without the people having any say at all, even without them knowing about things until after the fact to keep certain people in the positions of power that they have and want to keep

  • djnforce9

    Unfortunately, the who public performance law seems to be there because corporations believe that every time a song is played, they should be paid even if it’s someone clumsily trying to sing the song (remember the case with the little girl and Happy Birthday). It’s pure greed and nothing more. They shouldn’t be entitled to any compensation for people singing.

  • http://web.ncf.ca/shawnhcorey/ Shawn H Corey

    95% of people will give something back if they get something they value¹. Copyright law is about protecting yourself against the 5%. It is also a completely waste of effort, time, and money. You will never get back anything near what you spent in prosecuting them. And you’ll never stop them². Instead, make it easier for the 95% to give you something back. Don’t waste your efforts beating a dead horse.

    ¹ http://www.projectm-online.com/new-perspectives/the-moral-molecule

    ² http://torrentfreak.com/and-when-even-the-death-penalty-doesnt-deter-copying-what-then-110807/

  • Razul

    Set up a global shop with relevant music and movies – and add a “pay what you want” button to it. Then use the daily facts and numbers to “major troll” the discussion. Let people explain in comments why they choose not to pay. Nothing beats reality.

    Laws can’t change the living travesty that the relationship between the industry-machine and consumer has become. You can’t force people in more (legal) submission who already are capitalist, consumerist puppets. You trained them well.

    The $0 part is the capitalist in them. Nothing beats $0. You have to get them to feel good to be a better consumer. Lobbyist who pay for “pro-Industry” copyright laws try to even shorten the very short leash they already have. But you don’t need more control. Its already strangling. Dead people don’t pay. Every successful loan shark knows that.

    Strict playgrounds doesn’t work. All their quite expensive ways to raise the amount of penalties doesn’t work. They can’t get their hit to stick. Their anti-Torrent ideology created a billion dollar usenet und filehoster industry.

    Its only getting much worser until someone has enough. And beware what happens then. No lobbyist will fix that.

  • Yer Cheain’ Heart

    Rick, you are a whiny pussy on Masnick’s diatribe board, and you aren’t much better here.  

    You can keep trying to pile up the bull, but in the end, can you come up with anything that replaced the billions made by the IP industries, and the millions of taxes paid as a result?

    Nope?

    Move along and grow up already.

  • Mwhahaha

    Oh Rick, you with your hyperbole. Just as bad as the MPAA.

    I’m afraid I didn’t read further than “99.98% of artists never see a cent in royalty under the current copyright monopoly system”. I’ll assume the rest is filled with equally typical terrible tripe.

    That99.98 is a hysterical tabloidesque number which you provide no source of data for. Even the sentence itself is (purposefully?) unclear in what it’s actually trying to say. Most importantly, you don’t define artists, which is a major problem.

    This kind of writing wouldn’t pass high school level sociology.

    Do you, for example, count hack-script writers of soap operas who are on a non-royalty based contract which they’ve willingly signed? Do you count the small band who get a £10,00 advance, spend another £50K in the studio and then sell 4 records, all to family? 

    There is a problem with copyright, a major one. We’ve all heard apocryphal tales of bands never being paid, usually because they were too desperate to turn down bad contracts. We’ve all seen stories of studios taking the piss with scriptwriters.

    The way to fix that is to have a fairer media industry, not to abolish copyright. We need laws to protect the desperate creative types from being taken advantage of, either by studios or by people unwilling to pay for what they consume.

    As ever you leave me feeling just as scared of your vision which would possibly lead to a culturally deprived wasteland as I am of the Orwellian vision of the MPAA where we have to pay for every single every time we see, hear or read it.

    • Mwhahaha

      Further more!

      With the internet, every type of creative output, other than major TV or Film productions can be made at home and sold directly to the consumer.

      There needs to be a nonprofit site for artists to be able to publish on, be it music, televisual or literature, where all but the smallest of %s are kept by the artists.

      That is what the internet allows us to do. We can all be cottage industries.

      Instead of walking around espousing your hyperbole Rick, why don’t you do something productive and start a non-profit website for artists? I’m sure you could find the backing.

      All you need is large servers, a site design and no sense of greed. That would help all the artists you seem to care about a lot more than all this rhetoric.

      Politicians, whatever the class, prefer talk to action. 

      Typical.

      If anyone likes the idea of starting a totally nonprofit site for artists, get in touch, let’s see what we can come up with mail me at: the.strawbear.uk@gmail.com

      People working together can always achieve something better than the biggest corporations.

      • MadAsASnake

        Dotcom tried that – look at how Hollywood responded – they bought off an FBI raid in other countries.

    • http://falkvinge.net/ Rick Falkvinge

      Dear Mwahahaha,

      the 99.98% is simple: 99% of artists aren’t signed by a gatekeeping publisher under the old system, and of those 1% who are, 98% never see a cent in royalties.

      Cheers,
      Rick

  • chillinfart

    About punishments. The Congress in Peru is preparing the ground for the copyright terrorism.  Two bills try to slam the few privacy measures that we have, putting us as a “cybercrime haven”.

    https://www.accessnow.org/blog/civil-society-speaks-out-on-dangerous-new-cybercrime-law-in-peru

  • https://thepiratebay.org/user/manOtor/ manOtor

    Thx for another fantastic read, Mr. Falkvinge!

    Every politician on this planet should have a copy of this on their desk, every judge right next to their hammer, and every anti-piracy-outfit member up their asses.

    The headline of this article is a question that should be seriously discussed in every parliament around the world.
    It’s about time we question the intentions of the laws that brace the copyright monopoly within our legislative processes officially and publicly.
    To force the politics to explain themselves in public is the best way to present the whole ridiculousness of the matter to the people.

  • http://gondwanaland.com/mlog mlinksva

    “That justification [stifling political dissent] would hardly fly today”

    Maybe it doesn’t fly, but it does still walk.

    Great column!

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