ISP Speeds Up Customers’ BitTorrent Downloads
Written by Ernesto on April 18, 2009There are many ways for ISPs to manage the increased load BitTorrent traffic places on their network. Some choose to interrupt BitTorrent transfers like Comcast did, but there are more ‘consumer friendly’ alternatives too. An Israeli Internet provider is adding local web-seeds to speed up torrent transfers and reduce the amount of international traffic.
Over the past few years Internet service providers have been increasingly complaining about the massive load BitTorrent transfers place on their networks. They claim that this load can reduce the performance experienced by other subscribers, but the huge amount of data transferred outside their own network is also very costly.
To solve these issues, some ISPs have started to slow down all BitTorrent traffic, Comcast-style. Others choose to limit BitTorrent speeds at certain times of the day, and there are other examples where customers simply cannot download files with a .torrent extension at all.
Luckily there are options available which can help manage BitTorrent traffic and please customers, all at the same time. The Israeli ISP Bezeq International has taken this more consumer-friendly route. This ISP actually makes BitTorrent downloads faster by caching popular torrent downloads on their own network. By doing so the load on the network decreases and since there are less connections to peers outside the network Bezeq is also saving on costly bandwidth.
It works as follows. When a Bezeq International customer downloads a .torrent file the ISP will intercept it and add (!) a new tracker to it. The additional tracker is only accessible for Bezeq International customers and it connects to a high speed web-seed hosted on Bezeq International’s network. As a result the files will be downloaded much faster. A Bezeq customer told us that almost all ‘popular’ torrents he downloaded connect to local seeds.
Interestingly, the tracker Bezeq International uses is hosted by an ISP in The Netherlands, while the actual seeds (caches) are on the ISPs network. The provider confirmed to TorrentFreak that the ISP is indeed listed as a client, but they were not aware of its torrent caching practices or that they were hosting a BitTorrent tracker.
On the surface this seems to be a win-win situation for both the ISP and its customers. Bezeq saves on resources and expensive bandwidth while the customer enjoys higher download speeds. There are of course privacy concerns, since the .torrent files are intercepted and edited without permission, but the biggest opposition to such a system will most likely come from the entertainment industry.
Various anti-piracy lobby groups, including the MPAA and RIAA are already pushing for more cooperation from ISPs in tracking down copyright infringers. The relationship between the entities is an uneasy one already, and that’s before an ISP decided it would become a BitTorrent seeder. Although Bezeq International does not control which files are cached on their servers, the likes of the MPAA and RIAA will likely see it as aiding in copyright infringement.
Caching BitTorrent traffic and attempts to keep it within the local network as much as possible are not new, but aside from occasional tests these technologies are never implemented by ISPs. Bezeq International did not respond to our inquiries so we can’t confirm that they have implemented it for all their customers. For those who are lucky enough, enjoy the ride.
More discussion in Israeli.
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ironically another ISP in Canada, at least is thinking of a tracker where , more legit uses can be had on his network for his users only.
While that’s a start, now getting artists to realize they can advertise on it with there tunes and have links to where concerts are and performances, might even spurn a more local artist base which is a kinda neat idea.
I don’t get this comcast-style thing anymore, it doesen’t seem relevent. I am currently using comcast and my speeds are better than ever, they implimented a data cap of 250 Gb’s lol they dont throttle anymore
I can’t see this lasting for long. The entertainment industry basically has proof of ISPs assisting in copyright infringement now. It would never work in countries like the United States where the Entertainment industry owns the government.
thats really smart and cool :)
yep once we get support from artists we will be good. hopefully in a few yours we wont see stuff on cds but rather on the internet were u buy your own cd. this alone would save on mass production in turn helping the economy. we just gotta hope we see people this smart in our lifetimes.
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It’s an interesting issue. I’ve been seeing this seeding on ip range 212.235.15.0-212.235.15.255 which is blocked by default on peer guardian and the entry name is “OS-Cache” (if that is indeed the ip. I’s on when I use the bezeq ISP in Israel).
It does seed pretty fast on many torrents, but I just couldn’t find any reference to this ip and thus kept it blocked (found it accidentally when peer guardian was off one day).
But even now that I (presumably) know what it is, it’s still scary since tracking me using this cache is just too easy to any interested party. It’s a big temptation though. With PG2 off I max my connection, almost exclusively from this cache) while when it’s blocked, i get about 1/10 – 1/5 of my max bandwidth…
tough..
@5: please post these kinds of things on their respective articles. Your post has absolutely nothing to do with an ISP.
@5
Sigh, does the MPAA, RIAA etc have nothing better to do all day than post useless comments that everyone ignores?
Go do something useful like helping indie labels/artists and stop fucking with TPB, then we might buy your shit.
How long do people give until the people that hacked the investigative officers email account turn their efforts on these tossers?
Ernesto ban onemoretime ip.
@8
I have 5 different computers at 3 different places. FAIL
@9 Let’s ban all of them then you dumbass.
This seems pretty cool, but like, what about laws? On another note, what are the laws in Israel (copyright infringment, etc..)
torrentino.info
!! REALITY CHECK !!
STOP JUSTIFYING YOUR GENERAL IGNORANCE, TECHNICAL ILLITERACY AND INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT COPYING IS NOT STEALING.
Piratebay does not make much money off of their site, and the money they do make they use exclusively to keep the site running. They understand that the record labels are extorting media from artists for nothing in return and using it only to fuel their own money machine, and turn to larger anti-piracy industries to defend the media that is not even rightfully theirs to begin with and their profits which they did not even deserve to earn a fraction of. The anti-piracy groups the spread viruses and worthless data, sue and force-close traffic points and extort money from individuals in the form of large fines determined by imaginary profit losses in an attempt to keep their outated business model alive. This is not only about BIG CORPORATIONS, but about ABUSE AND BENDING OF COPYRIGHT, SABOTAGE OF PROPERTY, AND INVASION OF PRIVACY OF INTERNET USERS FOR COMMERCIAL INTERESTS. They deserve to be deemed heroes for standing up for what is right in the face of something so evil.
!! REALITY CHECK !!
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/06/07/15/the-pirate-bay-making-over-20000-a-day
You call 20 000 euros a day for maintaining a mostly text based website not much?
@5
!!!REALITY CHECK!!!
Guess who first mentioned the Pirate Bay in this article?
Give you three guesses.
!!!REALITY CHECK!!!
@5
Hi. I don’t need to justify my free downloads. Unlike other people, I have no conscience.
But to be fair, anything I create I license under CC or GPL.
In other news, this is A Good Idea™ in theory, but of course like all implications of ISP data-gathering, it also has a great potential for all kinds of abuse in either direction. If someone somehow figured out to poison this cache and modify a popular torrent or two to point to a virus-infected file, imagine how quickly it could spread. Terrifying thought.
And of course, if ISPs start to hold stores of popular files, and it just happens to include “copyrighted content” in it’s store, just imagine what kinds of !@#$ would go down if the RIAA/MPAA managed to find out. It would make the ISPs liable for “copyright infringement” in their eyes, and would really start cause legal noise and could even bring down a good part of the network.
!!!REALITY CHECK!!!
MAFIAA is illegal criminal organisation!!!
!!!REALITY CHECK!!!
@18
Nice identity stealing. I will sue you.
@14 how much does it cost to maintain and purchase equipment to keep TPB servers and services working?
@16
Too bad you don’t create anything. Lol k, thanks, comeagain.
Also, I have to ask, how easy would it be for an anti-piracy group to simply jump on Bezeq’s connection, download a torrent, and instantly be in sync with hundreds, possible thousands of users, all with the ability to prove legitimately that these people infringed? Comeon, you’re just making it too easy right now.
@20
I am sure it costs hell of a lot less than 20 000 euros each day (that data is from 2006. btw, who know how much more they make in 2009.)
They have a huge amount of hits but they are mostly text based, they have no video content and very little images.
If you complain as ISP about the amount of bandwidth torrents cause you are stupid. Don’t promiss us an internet access service with a certain speed and bandwidth and later start complaining when we’re actually using it.
Why would the ISP ISP have to insert itself as an additional tracker?
Wouldn’t it be enough to just supply additional seeds which are only accessible for the ISPs own customers.
I think I don’t fully understand the technical argument there.
@onemoretime
!! REALITY CHECK !!
You’ve failed to prove The Pirate Bay turns a profit.
!! REALITY CHECK !!
Oh, and to the RIAA trolls, gtfo this site, the stench of brainless propaganda is becoming quite strong lately..
@21 i dont think it works that way
@14: It’s not like they’re operating a tracker serving over 25 million people or something…
!!!REALITY CHECK!!!
at #5
JUST SHUT UP
!!!REALITY CHECK!!!
@22 do you have the numbers? if you don’t please GRFO. if you do please post them.
Brainwashed children with a false sense of entitlement who do not care about laws.
I GIVE UP /cry
My guess is, those brainless RIAA propaganda trolls (are they actually human? I am beginning to suspect they are bots or something just spamming pro-filesharing sites – in that case they should be IP banned right? Anyways:) those trolls make me think of WWII where those small reticulous nazi vans would drive around through front cities blurting out random propaganda messages all day.. With a german accent of course!
Protip:
1. Copy their message:
“Piratebay has more money than most indie record labels, most indie musicians, most indie film makers. They were earning 20 000 euros per day from adds in 2006. This is not only about BIG CORPORATIONS. They deserve to be in jail.”
2. NOW goto this site: http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php
3. Select ‘Reiner.. German’ as voice.
4. Press ’speak’.
5. EPIC WIN!
Why is it that every time someone posts an anti-piracy comment anywhere, everyone assumes it’s some agent of the MPAA / RIAA?
I mean i’m all for torrenting, but c’mon people, you’re making yourselves look retarded.
@31
indeed, you are talking to a “child” that has 50+ original games, all bought due to the fact that i pirated them first and considered them worthy of my blood and sweat.
There used to be laws that entitled you to have slaves, if it was for people like you we would still have slavery.
@34
WOW, what a bad analogy. Learn logic first.
@35 you failed to notice the analogy was pointed to the “who do not care about laws” part, as in laws are made to be changed according to the social environment. i was not comparing slavery with piracy.
Also I can’t find out how much TPB makes money in 2009. and what are their maintenance costs. You know why? Because they do not want people to know this information for some reason, but they are all for TRANSPARENCY and stuff like that when it comes to other companies. Yet they themselves do not pratice it. We should just believe them when they say that they do not make money from TPB? HYPOCRITES
Why won’t they post exact data? Try to ask yourselves.
@31
‘Brainwashed children’
Lol, I can’t begin to describe the level of unintended irony in that statement.
‘A false sense of entitlement’
I don’t believe I’m intitled to anything. I take what I want as long as nobody else loses it. I used to be an avid consumer, spending in the range of €50 euros per month on movies and music (yes, that is much for a student). But your attitude has made me give up on that. You and your industry disgust me. Even leechers in filesharing networks make more of a net contribution then the music industry does to artists.
‘who do not care about laws’
That’s damn right. Morality is my only law, it has been so since I was born and so will it be until the day I die.
@onemoretime
You’re a brainwashed child with a false sense of reality who doesn’t understand that when a law no longer represents the will of people, it’s the duty of any patriotic citizen to stand up and break it.
@39
Yeah sure, but plz answer me.
WHY doesn’t Pirate Bay want to post exact details on how much money they make and how much of it they spend on the website. They promote transparency but do not practice it. Nobody has any doubt and finds this a bit suspicious?
@40 have you asked them?
@40
Do you really expect them to?
As if they’re not doing enough for people free of charge without declaring their finances to the whole world too?
Sure, they’re probably on the take, but since the revenue is generated by the visitors themselves viewing and clicking on adverts, who’s to blame?
Might be different if they were charging people to use the place to cover running costs.
Don’t underestimate those running costs either, they’ve got millions upon millions of peers at any one time, each hitting the tracker every 30 minutes or whatever.
I’d imagine that considerable infrastructure is required to keep just that going, it’s not about the site being “text based” ffs.
@41
No, but I am sure someone else did. At least a journalist since that kind of an information would make up for quite a nice story. I guess they were refused.
@42
Yes exactly, they are making money by distributing other people’s property without their consent. Even if they made 1 cent it is still a crime. They deserve to be in jail.
I’m off to bed, nobody will interrupt your fantasy world anymore. Peace.
Yes, please do not interupt my flight through magic mushroom land!
@44
No, they’re not distributing anything at all, and that’s what this whole debate is all about. Get a grip.
I don’t make a habit of being trolled in public comment boxes, so I’ll leave this now.
Peace.
@43 please cite a news article that states that refusal
“Why is it that every time someone posts an anti-piracy comment anywhere, everyone assumes it’s some agent of the MPAA / RIAA?”
A legit commenter wouldn’t copy & paste the exact same repetitious propaganda slogans across several threads, and they’d at least attempt to back up their arguments with something resembling a fact.
These MPAA / RIAA “agents”(Agents? Please, that makes them sound way too dignified) are easy to spot. Which is pretty hilarious, considering most people working in the hired shill profession have an ego the size of a small planet and think they’re such master manipulators of the public that nobody can ever see through them and everybody hangs on their every word.
If you want to get a glimpse into the world of hired plants, here’s an excellent starting point:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/art
icles/view/issues/issue_62/363-Im-Evil
*sigh*
God damn automatic linebreaks.
Let’s try that link again:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_62/363-Im-Evil
i think that was not necessary, but thanks anyway ;)
Hows that news btw?! Most countries in Europe have inner peering among their ISPs for higher speeds (cheapest tariff of my ISP gets me 5MBybe/s of download speed) and avoiding paying for international traffic…
“WHY doesn’t Pirate Bay want to post exact details on how much money they make and how much of it they spend on the website. They promote transparency but do not practice it. Nobody has any doubt and finds this a bit suspicious?”
ROFL
Oh my God, it’s a conspiracy!!
Put down the tinfoil hat, please, nutcase.
I don’t see you posting your financial records online. So come on, post them RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW. Or are you a complete and absolute hypocrite?
BTW, if you fail to reveal all of your financial details to the public, then everybody should be suspicious of you according to your own paranoid logic.
who cares if they were making money on tpb?
THEY SHOULD MAKE MONEY
that was a great site with a good layout,a stable tracker, and with millions of hits im sure it would be money well deserved for their time and effort.
regardless of their personal opinion on copyright,the URL of the site itself, or wether they INTENDED to make money (shock horror) they were not breaking the law, by hosting tor files or running a tracker.
they are good people, smart people, and a danger to no-one.
this ‘assisting’ in copyright infringement charge is ridiculous.
they were within the perimeter of their own state law
they might as well sue seedbox hosters.
if i send you a ringtone from my mobile to yours, do you sue the phone company for ‘assisting’?
!!!REALITY CHECK!!!
I suck dick and can’t sue shit.
!!!REALITY CHECK!!!
Or they could just uncap traffic that stays on their network all together. There is no reason that me and my friend down the street shouldn’t be able to do local traffic over our mutual isp at an uncapped rate, it never leaves their network (and quite possibly even postal code)
Gosh no! The Pirate Bay making money?
Fuck, I hope they make pots /more/. For the service they provide & the sheer amount of users they cater to, they’re doing it /cheap/!
WTG TPB – ur FTW! =]
Gosh no! The Pirate Bay making money?
Damn, I hope they make pots /more/. For the service they provide & the sheer amount of users they cater to, they’re doing it /cheap/!
WTG TPB – ur FTW! =]
*Expletives Removed*
Well Wikipedia hosting costs are 500.000$ a year. So if TPB has the same costs which i doubt they are in plus after 25 days. And if whe look at the unique visitors in Alexa, Wikipedia is 12 times bigger. So probably after 2-3 days they make profits. But if they pay themselves 1.8 Million each per year TPB probably makes no profit.
Well now, I’d love to change my ISP to Bezeq, but I live in USA :(
Bezeq, I wish more ISPs actually cared about their customers like you do.
I hope your subscriber-base multiplies tenfold.
“And if whe look at the unique visitors in Alexa, Wikipedia is 12 times bigger.”
TPB’s meat and potatoes is their tracker, and that’s invisible to Alexa. Plus, all the Wikipedia stats really say is that they’re visited by 12 times more Alexa toolbar users.
And I think most filesharers are a little too savvy to install that crap.
This sounds kinda cool althought i dont quite understand because the data is still coming from somewhere outside there network to start with isnt it?
i just wish that rogers canada in my area would up there bandwith limit. im on the highest plan 10m down and 1m up but its only 90 gigs a month than i get charged, if they made a 150 plan id be set. thats really my only complaint D=
!!!REALITY CHECK!!!
One more comment and quota for bonus will be done.
!!!REALITY CHECK!!!
“WHY doesn’t Pirate Bay want to post exact details on how much money they make and how much of it they spend on the website. They promote transparency but do not practice it. Nobody has any doubt and finds this a bit suspicious?”
Where are they promoting transparency? I’d like it if they were completely transparent about this, certainly, but them not doing it isn’t suspicious to me. TorrentFreak doesn’t do anything like that. Neither does any site I know of, with the exception of marxists.org I think.
Why the hell SHOULD the guys at TPB post details about their incomes?
Do YOU post YOUR private information all over the internets?
…& where exactly did TPB EVER mention that they were running a charity? More power to them…
Cluebie.
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=iinet+lawsuit+caching&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
already been tried, and failing so far
this onyl works in developing and 3rd world countries.
this is to onemoretime
your an idiot
you’ve bought into the propaganda that the entertainment industry spews
learn yourself some facts retard
Haha that guy is funny the onemoretime guy. Just so u know most indie labels dont make shit in the first place….Which really makes them better to listen to. And fuck labels Secondly. You should have youre ass kicked for being a bitch hater.
did you guys forget that the piratebay isn’t the only piratebay site? they have lots of other side projects to.
I wish Comcast would do this! :)
@ onemoretime:
Shut your fukin mouth, they started up a company, they provide a service who gives a fuk what they make? Honestly…
This may mess up a number of private trackers, because the torrents from those have embedded keys in them.
sorry, my kid is kind of a sheeple… leave him alone… sorta retard actually lol
Innovative approach.. Definitely a good idea to start working on..
Here in Moscow (Russia) one of ours ISP also started using same method with local buffering tracker, which tracks peers without “real” ip addresses allowing them to see each other and dl with full internal speed 100mb.
And it works pretty well.
Peerguardian is not a tool to help someone with illegal activity. It addresses privacy concerns, and so it rightfully blocks ISP cache’s even though they boost downloading speeds.
Ah, REALITY CHECK posts. I knew the entertainment industry would send some seeds here…
Not saying that it isn’t true that PB ain’t making a ton of cash. That cannot be proven or disproven, not with our resources. So let’s look at it another way.
1. If Piratebay were to be earning MILLIONS surely the people convicted would NOT be saying that they cannot pony up the $905,000 each… it would be PEANUTS to them…
2. You could claim dishonesty in the part of the Piratebay. But, let’s put this into perspective. Who were the ones who:
- claimed HUGE LOSSES while STILL MAKING PROFITS ANYWAY?
- claimed LOST SALES as 100% GUARANTEED truth, as if they had a divine right for their products to fly off the shelves?
- INFLATED the value of those LOST (UNGUARANTEED) SALES, from a logical value of $0 to OVER NINE MILLION?
- REDEFINE and DEMONIZE the concept of:
a) Non-Bittorrent or FTP, casual, phyiscal product SHARING?
b) Selling products SECOND HAND to another?
c) Trading a given product between friends?
Yep, it’s those middlemen and lobbyists at the entertainment industry. NOT the Piratebay. Pot, meet kettle – unlike Pot, Kettle doesn’t go around randomly making defenseless laymen criminals.
That should be a nice little REALITY CHECK for lobbyists.
#40 oh how stupid,
do you read tha news?
TPB costs alot, I mean really you can’t even check the website you’r current posting on?
“Gottfrid said that the tracker itself uses an average of 600mbits of bandwidth which increases further at weekends. He also revealed that their current hardware has to be replaced once a year and is currently estimated to be worth $120,000, therefore it is depreciating at the rate of $10,000 each month.”
Onemoretime took this entire thread offtopic, nuke his sorry ass please torrentfreak
I AM BACK!
“1. If Piratebay were to be earning MILLIONS surely the people convicted would NOT be saying that they cannot pony up the $905,000 each… it would be PEANUTS to them…”
Yeah sure, they would say they have the money and pay. Oh no, they wouldn’t. They would say they do not have the money so they do not have to pay. Seriously, how old are you?
I am 17 and know more about morals than you freaks.
Sweet dude, you want a medal? I’m 18, bow down son.
“STOP JUSTIFYING YOUR FREE DOWNLOADING OF OTHER PEOPLE’S COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL.”
So many trolls and RIAA/MPAA parasites in these forums!
This corporates parasites much be paying a fortune to maintain them.
Good this will put them out of business faster!
CONTINUE AND EXPEND THE BOYCOTT!
NO CD, NO DVD NO MOVIE THEATER NO CABLE!
CITIZEN! FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT AND BOYCOTT THE ENTIARTAINEMENT PARASITES!
IF YOU DON’T WE WILL HAVE TO USE MORE EXPEDITIVE METHODS TO SOLVE THE RIAA/MPAA PROBLEM.
Great initiative, but wont they get sued for Copyright infringment very fast?
“they were not breaking the law, by hosting tor files or running a tracker.”
Why do you think that hosting tor files is breaking the law?
REALITY CHECK!!!
Oi, dickhead!
“I am 17 and know more about morals than you freaks.”
Don’t care how old you are – and even if you know about “moral” you seem to fail in “ethics” – and probably are too dumb to tell the differnce! And even worse you even fail in basic mathematics!!!
As for the dubious “news” you have been citing:
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/06/07/15/the-pirate-bay-making-over-20000-a-day
who wrote it?
How comes that even the prosecution FAILED to provide any valid numbers for the “income” of TPB when they would be so blatantly “public” as you and those liars you cite claim?
Maybe it is because they are wrong propaganda lies and you are too dumb to tell the difference?
BTW (from YOUR news source!):
“the Swedish company Eastpoint Media have sold ads for The Pirate Bay for an average of €60,000 per month”
So selling 60,000 a month calculates to income of 20,000 a day?
HOW DUMB ARE YOU?
REALITY CHECK ANYONE????
You are too stupid to check your sources for inconsistencies. And the numbers are probably pure fiction – since not even the prosecution had been able to substantiate any!
All you are babbeling are the lies of others that you copy without checking and you are even too dumb to recognise the contradictions in your own “facts”!
(Are you deeply religious educated? That would fit very well with your attitude in bragging about your “moral” while failing to think in terms of “ethics” – and your obvious incapacity of critical thinking and scrutiny while reproducing what others told you without even noticing the blatant contradiction in the claims that you are purely parroting!)
And by the way: there furthermore will be a differnenc of the retail price someone sells ads and the generated “payments” passed on to the customer – let alone the resulting “profit” after subtracting the costs of operation.
There IS money made from TPB – but it’s probably the profits that ad sellers, hardware vendors and bandwidth suppliers are earning off TPB.
I would wish the boys who actually run TPB WOULD make some money – but the real revenue turnover probably goes into other peoples pockets – those who have NOT been in court!
So if you cry for “reality check” the reality check only shows that you are a dunderhead and have a pretty pathetic and ignorant view on the complexity of the real world.
Grow up – and get some education in critical thinking, scrutiny … and mathematics!
@85
They did not need to prove that TPB makes money to win their case.
They needed to prove TPB has intent of helping people download copyright protected files illegally.
You fail.
This will get you banned, if your using Private trackers :(
Because it will look like your Ghostleeching…
Why can’t we keep this discussion to the great idea introduced by this ISP???
There are plenty of stories about TBP to air your views on.
@85
SO TRUTH !!!
@all who speak about TPB
Please don’t go off topic!
A small correction, in Israel people speak Hebrew, not Israeli… ;-)
holy shit, not a single on-topic comment, lol. everyone here are retards (incl me).
OP:
This is a GREAT idea. Speeding up all torrent transfers, regardless of what they contain.
Reducing bandwidth to external and international networks and lowering the costs for the ISP, maybe even reduce the price tag for the customer?
I sure hope more ISPs implement this!
BT revolution!
Wow, This ISP really loves his consumers and listen to them (0_o)
Too bad it only operates in Israel, otherwise I’ll drop my ISP and switch to them :)
So the ISP modifies your .torrent files as you download them…adds its own tracker/s and possible web seeds. And this doesn’t mess up private torrents because?
Removing/blocking/limiting other trackers from your torrents as well…would that still be “good”?
Doing all this so they can throttle/block almost any international ips…is that still good?
Every ISP should do this. There have been a lot of technologies that can do this but almost no one use them.
Excellent. Even in the States, this kind of caching is explicitly allowed in the DMCA. One may wonder why it’s not used more…
This seems impossible for me in these times. It’s great idea though.
I hope these guys will keep it running and inspire other ISPs over the world!
The isp’s should all give FTTH to all, problem solved, then most of the time the links would be idle since downloads would complete FAST
There is NO morality issue.
Bitorrent bandwidth is the same as HTTP bandwidth, and if there’s demand, then you do what you can to increase availability to improve your service.
Send a medal to the Bezeq guy in charge of this decision.
Some russian ISP add a tracker too. I use one of them. It really cool!
So now that the RIAA can’t make p2p or torrent technology go away they’re going after the isp’s…don’t they know their business model is fvcked…
I’ve been protesting against the GREEDY RIAA music industry for years by not buying CD’s or DVD’s, and I don’t download from the net either, it’s the only way I can legally hurt those GREEDY bastards. I started collecting LP’s in the 70’s and had a comprehensive LP collection, then CD’s came out and I started duplicating my LP collection with CD’s, so they have more than doubled their money from me, considering CD prices in the 90’s were 18-20 pounds that’s about $36 (incl inflation), and…then I woke up and realised that I was being ROYALLY SCREWED by the RIAA Music Industry business model, fvck them, they’re just like the horrible greedy wall str bankers. The parallels between greedy wall str bankers and the RIAA Music Industry are many and I depise them with a passion that’s close to fire, but at least wall str isn’t trying to destroy two legitimate technologies, p2p and torrent. So, go…TPB. And one way of protesting against the RIAA Music Industry is by boycotting their products, hit them where it hurts and can bring about their downfall, boycotting is legal and they can’t stop you.
By targeting p2p, torrent and isp technology the GREEDY RIAA fvckers are trying to force you to buy their overpriced DRM’d crap which you can’t share with a friend.
Irate and pissed off old timer who has given his LP and CD collection away, after ripping it for backup purposes :-) FvcK YOU RIAA MUSIC INDUSTRY. If I bump into one of you mafo’s in a dark alley I will rearrange your kneecaps irish style.
OT: MAFIAA dogs (that “reality check” one and the likes) have no moral right to appeal to morals. Hypocrites.
OnT: ISP ignoring amount of BT traffic may bring them too much of expensive foreign/overseas traffic. BT shaping would alienate their own customers, so if they can neither ignore nor shape BT traffic, they have to substitute it with cheap/free local traffic – it’s just business, nothing personal.
Biggest Russian tracker (torrents.ru, claims to have 3,500,000+ users) uses “retracker” system, which is close to the mentioned idea. A group of Russian ISPs (Home-IX) have agreed to make internal traffic between themselves free and set up at least one additional tracker that tracks only their local IPs. When torrent is downloaded from main site (torrents.ru), it checks whether downloader’s IP belongs to one of Home-IX subnets; if it does, second – local – tracker is automatically added to torrent file, and downloader gets peers both from main tracker (torrents.ru) and local tracker (Home-IX one). The only difference is that (AFAIK) Home-IX ISPs’ servers don’t host actual files since their local users (all with 100 Mbit fast&cheap LAN lines, in contrast to 5-10-20 Mbit Internet lines) eliminate this need from ISPs.
I don’t know how does torrents.ru, being private tracker, deal with users ratios since BitTorrent client report cumulative up/down traffic stats regardless of whether traffic is local or not. In other words, it actually screws U/D ratio for private trackers which (provided they have paranoid admins and/or anti-cheat system) can lead to user bans on such private trackers. So I’d suggest Bezeq Int. users to remove their tracker from private torrents or inform private trackers’ admins of this article if they don’t want to be accused of ratio cheating.
Wait until the law suits kick in. RIAA will be all over this. ISP’s assisting in copyright infringement? RIAA’s wet dream.
Israeli is not a language Hebrew is
The language spoken in Israel is Hebrew. Please fix.
as a client of Bezeqint – For most torrents in the last few days there have been speed improvements on anywhere between none to massive Improvements. However torrents who have less local seeds or peers fail epicly with this new “service”- e.g MVGroup torrents barely work until I remove the ISP tracker from the list. an ISP should be just a ‘pipe’ (LOL tubes) and should not MITM any data going through.
Bezeqint is my ISP and I’m not too sure about this article. Personally my torrent downloads have been slower lately and I’ve been getting a lot of “connection closed by peer”. The people on the forum you linked too also sound ambiguous (and the language is Hebrew, there’s no such thing as “Israeli”).
Rogers has cache servers.. They can do this.. Let’s see them use put our money to good use considering they raised the prices of services again.
i knew israel wasnt full of shit!
been seedin this golden rule thing for a while. JEWS FTW!!!
Looks like its time for OneSwarm. Go anonymous.
Those ISP are the next gen ISP…
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