Lily Allen Pirates Music, Is Clueless About Copyright
Written by Ernesto on September 23, 2009File-sharing heroine Lily Allen has joined the anti-piracy lobby in its war against illegal downloading, claiming that it bankrupts the music industry. While trying to prove her point, however, she infringed on the rights of several webblogs and newspapers. On top of this, it turns out that she offers some illegal mixtapes on one of her websites.
After we found out that Lily Allen copied an article from Techdirt without attribution or permission to prove why copyright infringement is wrong, we called her a hypocrite. Even celebrity guru Perez Hilton agreed with this assessment, and it seems that Lily is more of a hypocrite than we could have ever imagined.
In a reply to our criticism Lily wrote the following blog entry in which she entirely missed the point we tried to make.
“I THINK ITS QUITE OVIOUS [sic] THAT I WASNT TRYING TO PASS OF THOSE WORDS AS MY OWN , HERE IS A LINK TO THE WEBSIITE I ACQUIRED THE PIECE FROM.”
Judging from her response it is “quite obvious” that Lily doesn’t have a clue about copyright. Lily seems to argue that we accused her of plagiarism, but we only meant to point out that she infringed on Techdirt’s copyright by copy/pasting their article without attribution.
Also, this is not the only infringement on her blog. While she’s trying to point out how much damage ‘pirates’ do to the music industry she blatantly infringed the copyrights of a number of newspapers by posting scanned articles.
To make things even more absurd Techdirt discovered that Lily is pirating music herself by offering some unauthorized mixtapes (tape 1 and tape 2) on her website LilyAllenMusic.com. The tracklist of one of the mixtapes reveals a list of no less than 19 unauthorized tracks. This means the RIAA can easily sue her for millions.
Please Lily, explain to us why it is okay for you to copy, paste and pirate others work, while you label people who do the same as thieves? Are we missing something here, or do you really think that copyright is limited to your own music?
What about the poor people working at the newspapers who might lose their job because you are pasting scanned articles online? Not to mention the poor artists that ended up on your mixtape who’s lives are ruined because of your selfish actions.
Update: Lily Allen killed her weblog and career.
Previously: Pirate Party Canada Set For Federal Approval
Next: Lily Allen Deletes Pro-Copyright Blog and Ends Career
184 Responses
Wow. Just…wow.
LAWL , fucking idiot….
Thank you for supporting piracy Lily :) , sharing too ;)
Celebrities are clueless of how the real world works and the rest of us live, too busy maintaining their ivory towers. Stop giving these wankers money.
and who the fuck is lily allen?
LOL. Just… lol.
What a dumbass.
that’s strike 2 for her 1 more and she’s disconnected under the new schemes
stupid women she is, I’m currently having a bat and ball argument with her via her blog her and one of her co-workers quite amusing how clueless they really are.
Btw Ernesto check your email :)p
you too engimax
haha what a twat haha
So when will RIAA sue her?
awesome LOL
I want to be rich and I want lots of money
I dont care about clever I dont care about funny
…
I dont know whats right and whats real anymore
:p
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Sh!tty Lilly!
choke on that piece of info lilly, and then reevaluate how absurd current copyright law is.
So does she read this site? or get someone to read it to her?
If so i hope she hears these words….
No matter how right or wrong the situation you are against are you will never be a help if you do not do your home work.
Here are a few facts for you to try and understand…
1: The people who share and download your music are your FANS…why on earth would anyone waste there time and bandwidth (both of which are a limited resource to a person) on your music? Unless they are a fan of yours
These are not criminals making money of your work by selling it on the side street, but your fans who go to your consorts and your merchandise, and frankly if money is more impotent to you than your fans get the hell out of the recording studio and stay out of music there are enough parasites in the business already that we do not need a two faced money grubbing artist pretending to make music for there “fans” while instead its all about making as much music as possible.
2: One download is NOT one lost sale, that’s like saying every time a radio plays your song it makes people less likely to buy your CD each time they hear your music. If your fans wanted to own your music they will when they get the chance even if they have the music downloaded already.
3: Don’t think you represent your entire industry and don’t use them as a screen to hide your own worries and goals. Grow a backbone and say the truth, YOU do not want your music shared between your fans, YOU want everyone to buy your music and if someone cant afford it to bad, YOU want your fans punished if caught sharing and enjoying your music without paying you for the privilege.
I have no respect for you unless your grow up and honestly tell the world what YOU want and not what you think your industry wants.
-Jay
Lily Allen, only famous ‘cos she’s IDF
She broke the scale…
she f’ing broke the scale…
did ya hear me? she broke the SCALE…
damn she broke the damn scale…
i put her on the moron scale and tried to see how big a moron she is from 1-10… and she broke the f’ing scale.
While Elton moron John came in on a 8.5, and James Blunt the dumb … came in on 10, she broke the ****ing scale :((
Lily shouldn’t worry too much about it. After all, she is just another trend. She and her music will be forgotten next year.
You Lily, you are a person rather than correct! Greetings from Buenos Aires.
Owned. The Internet 4thewin
Ezee – i just LMAO!
Half an education and half a coke habit is never a good mix.
Anti-piracy fail!
I never need to buy music thanks to Lily Allen’s mixed tapes!
Thanks for advocating anti-piracy!
Look yeah i don’t know what the big deal is. trying so hard too bring her down. So what Lily Allen.. and i quote “copied an article from Techdirt without attribution or permission to prove why copyright infringement is wrong”,If you delve into every celeb lifestyle and past i think you will find they have contradicted themself before. We are all human no matter how rich, how poor, how famous or how unknown we are. If we throw stones at eachother it’s going to hurt.we are all the same. we all do something wrong every now and then. nobody is perfect, I mean look at perez he is a low life no good for nothing individual who thrives with success on somone elses loss. Give up! and leave Lily Allen alone.
lulz
I love Lily Allen!! f perezzz! love you girl!!
You really need to proof your articles more thoroughly before posting, several grammatical errors.
Ps. Lily Allen has always been a moron.
Somebody make a video of this to youtube?
In the video surf to the mixtape-page, show the track list and let the music play..
The internet archive has the pages stored, but they of course link to the original mp3, which could be removed..
@Boy George,
To err is human, i totally agree with you.. but on the other hand if I were to start talking about how we should visit distant stars using a golf cart’s engine, 3 matchsticks and a lot of fuel you would know i dont have an effing clue on what i was talking about either. And i’m sure i would be ridiculed by people who are currently working on space exploration if I was the spokesperson for a scientific group.
There was a famous quote, i dont know the source or i would give the person credit and i dont remember the exact words but it goes something like this:
“Better to be thought of as a fool…
than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”
Too late Lily you silly, not only do you have a ton of cellulite but you’re a moron as well.
@ezz, I try :)
@Afficianado, what does ‘IDF’ stand for? sorry, am not very good with acronyms.
what a fucking retard.
This is really stupid, at the end of the day lilly was right yet you will argue at anything just to get press, and having Perez hilton as a celebrity backer hardly makes for decent reading unless you are an uneducted american and he would argue about lillys nail varnish which is damn right childish, what we should really talk about is Perez’s on going feud with lilly is pathetic and considering hes a talentless mong he should stop. Nuff said
She states in her latest blog that she is giving up music, i fear shes going to attempt politics. oh dear. Also muse have gone down severely in my estimates siding with her. IF you read this Blog lily, please answer the following questions.
1, the average age of the music consumer be it free or other wise?
2, the average salary of the aforementioned?
3, disposable income after necessary expenditure?
4, the amount of new music experienced / purchased per month?
I personally have around 1500 records containing on average 5 tracks per record, purchased when i was djing, @ between £5 – £9 so let say an average of £7 so have spent £11500 on music in the past not including cds, gigs, etc.
now i have an ipod, i am expected to either transfer these 1500 records myself or pay 79p per track, or to pay £5925 for a digital copy. Again this does not include cds and tapes of which i purchase huge amounts.
I wouldn’t have that kind of money to do so either.
im amazed that the industry thinks it is perfectly acceptable that you can buy an ipod with 120GB of space holding roughly 10000 – 15000 tracks making the ipod cost £7900 – £11950. i personally would use this space. I listen to a diverse range of music, both old and new, but may only listen to some tracks only once, would have still paid full price for it. Peoples appetite for music has grown exponentially, and there is no way in the world that they could pay for enough to quench their thirst, so they fileshare. but instead of realising that if the cost was lower people would be prepared to pay, the industry takes a stance that its losing a sale, which never existed in the first place. Also filesharers provide great word of mouth advertising free of charge, and are far more likely to refer a sale than conventional marketing and pr, because its based on trust.
I don’t know why she bothers. As soon as she decided that she was going to jump on the anti-piracy bandwagon and criminalise the few fans that she has left, she must have known that it was all downhill from there. Then again, she was probably so shot up with coke at the time that she couldn’t care less.
Get over it. Everyone makes mistakes. Perez hilton shits himself of the reg.
I had never heard of lily till I read this article. I downloaded some of her music to se what all the hubbub was about, I still don’t know who she is. Me thinks she is realy irrelevent.
Waaaaaaah!
“How f’n dare anyone out there make fun of Lilly after all she has been through.!
She lost her aunt, she went through a divorce. She had two f’n kids.
Her husband turned out to be a user, a cheater, and now she’s going through a custody battle. All you people care about is….. readers and making money off of her.
SHE’S A HUMAN! (ah! ooh!) What you don’t realize is that Lilly is making you all this money and all you do is write a bunch of crap about her.
She hasn’t performed on stage in years. Her song is called “give me more” for a reason because all you people want is MORE! MORE-MORE, MORE: MORE!.
LEAVE HER ALONE! You are lucky she even performed for you BASTARDS!
LEAVE Lilly ALONE!…..Please.
Perez Hilton talked about professionalism and said if Lilly was a professional she would’ve pulled it off no matter what.
Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash someone who is going through a hard time.
Leave Lilly Alone Please…. !
Leave Lilly Allen alone!…right now!….I mean it.!
Anyone that has a problem with her you deal with me, because she is not well right now.
LEAVE HER ALONE!”
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Amazing what a little cut, paste, search and replace can do… ;-)
@4
I was asking myself the same question – who the fuck is this bitch and who cares – after googling her I found myself wondering the same thing.
@36
Oooh, SNAP! The delicious irony… I almost forgot about the leave-britney-alone-guy. Btw, seems Gwynneth Paltrow is of the same opinion:
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/gwyneth-paltrow-urges-media-to-leave-childlike-lily-allen-alone_100151388.html
utter utter LOL!!!!
Oh you silly little girl…
I guess she went full retard!
Both sides make me cringe in all this.
What happens if everyone was filesharing, and no-one paid for anything? Doesn’t that make it wrong?
Don’t get the wrong idea here, i’m a filsharer too, but i don’t like to broadcast it to the World, or feign outrage when someone speaks out against it. We’ve got even less of a right to take the moral highground in these instances.
Honesty, why throw your support behind something that you are blatantly ignorant about.
she have a nice ass =)
The comments on the blog entry are priceless
http://idontwanttochangetheworld.blogspot.com/2009/09/50-cent-post.html
keep ‘em coming, Anons!
This whole article is a piece of shit, it’s been written to target “Lily” and not what she is talking about. Musicians have the right get upset about file sharing. What don’t you people understand? They put heart, soul and their everything into their “work” yes “work” and then people feel like they have the right to take that for free. Do you actually realise how much a musician makes? I love how people think it’s all glamour. That’s because in America you see all these fucking dipshit musicians WITHOUT an ounce of talent, creating throw away pop music that people will forget in 2 minutes, with fucking bentleys, jewels, gold encrusted shit everywhere and ten million hoochie mamas popping their cooch in every 2nd camera shot.
Before you target “Lily” about the message she is trying to get across, why don’t you stop being so fucking ignorant and research it yourself, I bet all of you DON’T understand the seriousness of this issue and I find it hilarious that you are calling her a “stupid girl” when you yourselves probably have NO CLUE about the issue at hand. She raises some fine points. And although she may not be American – I think it’s safe to say that UK music actually has some art to it, you haven’t heard of her because she hasn’t been forced down your throat like every new so called “American Talent” is.
Sorry I put other peoples hard work on my website. I will explain why I had to do this, you see I am an ugly troll that can’t score with anyone, so I need to make some money from other peoples work so I can buy big fat dildos to pleasure myself with, as no self respecting male or beast will touch me. I am not sorry for being a hypocrite and I will STEAL the work of others and I will always do so because I am dumb. Also could someone please Ddos my website I think I would enjoy that.
Thanks.
“Give up! and leave Lily Allen alone.”
We’ll give up, when she gives up lobbying for the Government’s proposed law to disconnect suspected downloaders. Until then, people have every right to criticise her arguments.
Also, perhaps some might hope that if she realises she herself would have been disconnected for sharing those mix tapes, she might re-evaluate her argument. We can only hope.
I just love how shes supposed to be standing up and fighting against copyright infringement etc. While she is infringing it herself.
She obviously is fighting against something, she does not have a clue about.
If you take on topics, that you don’t know anything about, you are bound to fail.
You always need to know alot about it before you start.
Stop trying to pretend you know everything about it, when you don’t.
Also stop trying to make out this is saving the ‘Indstry’ and saving ‘New bands’ Downloading new bands music, promotes them, anyone that is against music downloading, cares more of the money than the fans.
I don’t even know how you are, where you are today.
I am surprised you still have fans.
@45
Nooo, you cant possibly be a troll, I really believe that it’s you Lilly!
Tellya what, we will overlook your indescretions if you show up at Picadelli Circus on Nov 1st at 2300 GMT at the Eros fountain and offer free BJ’s to everybody.
Oh…sorry, my mistake – I didn’t realize you already did that.
“Copying whereby everyone EXCEPT the creators are getting
value and compensation is wrong. So far, nobody on the
planet can truly come up with a justifiable argument for
why ISPs, websites, users, or anyone else should all
receive a benefit from using someone else’s work while the
creators who have made those works are being oppressed.
P2p is an amazing form of distribution. But, still, the
results and benefits of the technology remain imbalanced.
The creator is being exploited to the benefit of the
receiver, the ISPs, and the site owners.”
This comes from a comment that I found that someone posted the link and in that link I found this quote. Honestly, the problem is only about an imbalance. P2p has a really extraordinary ptotential. The bad thing is that people are taking sides. Lily thinks people should pay for music. Indirectly, she’s saying ‘I’ve worked hard and other people have worked hard to create something that should get paid for if people are allowed to get it.” Ok, it’s like milk, butter, bread, etc. If you are going to get it, you either need to have a cow or you need to pay the farmer, etc. Exchange is something we are all used to. The problem is, none of the analogies work. The Pirate People can’t come up with an anaology that is sensible and nor can the RIAA or the music industry. So, it’s about understanding each other and not being so oblivious to what’s been going on for the past ten years. Anyway, the quote is from a blog that I’m allowed to copy and has a creative commons license on it. So, the author doesn’t give a flying fuck whether it’s attributed or not but, the point is made that unless p2p sharpens up, the free spirit and f-off approach here will more than likely get stamped out. I call for an emergency meeting. I think that Andy and Ernesto or Enigmax or whatever the fuck you call yourselves these days need to think about a proper plot. We really should get a bit organzed here lads. Do we really need to take it up the arse? There are gazillions of us and very few of them.
Too funny, what a mug.
aye right. I’ve been censored on my favourite site. too many derrogatory f works I gather?
I still have no clue as to who this STUPID B***H is. There really is no other word to describe her but stupid – though clueless is close, it’s just too nice. An idiot like this needs to be ridiculed across the world and shown up for the STUPID hypocrite she is. I’m sure, like that other stupid … female, Indiana-whatsherface, she doesn’t sell anything (because she’s probably got ZERO talent as well!) Those, and morons like Ullrich, are the only ones who don’t understand how things work, always HAVE worked, and always WILL work. There will ALWAYS be a resistance movement against totalitarianism. And eventually, the resistance WILL win. It always has, and it always will.
Okay, so I live in London. I walk past the HMV store on Oxford street almost every. When I look in there, I am amused and saddened at the same time, at seeing tonnes of clueless consumers pouring tens of thousands of pounds into the MAFIAA’s pockets.
If Elton Jock could be so clueless as to propose a 5 year ban on the internet, it leaves me to wonder what would happen in the parallel universe where music stores got banned for 5 years..?
Out of curiosity i “acquired” some of Silly Lily’s music off the net…
Gah! It was not worth the space it took on my harddrive… even after deleting it the computer feels dirty – am seriously contemplating a format and reinstall.
@32 youndad or whatever, sounds like some sort of well, hmm, I better not mention it here. does anybody really care if you were a dj and already bought the tracks in some old format?
Answer. Yes. we do. we care. yes we can!
So, you have the tunes already and you’d rather download them. Who cares.
Can anybody see the project here? Like get with the program. If I lost my rubiks cube in the 80s I need to buy a new one now to replace it. Woah. poor me?
Look, lots of us buy t-shirts and jeans every year. They get old and we have to replace them. And?
What’s the mark-up on t-shirts and jeans these days? (scratches his head) hmm. let’s see. well, kids make them in sweat shops in southeast asia for pennies. they get shipped over to us for buttons (with a few refugees of course who we house and eventually pay out our arses for, but, that’s another subject) Anyway, your average not top of the line t-shirt, you know, let’s say ‘chanel’ or even something as low-grade as Nike or Puma. Let’s see here. it’s a t-shirt or a jean we’re talking about. Well, it’s around 2 quid by the time it get’s to the border, then some taxes. Finally gets passed on for between £50-£300 or whatever. hello. I shop at TK max and get the cheapo stuff that my wife finds. It’s still marked up something like 1000 percent. How long did we keep an old record. and even then, it was the retailer that marke the price up. just a thought
TorrentFreak just layed down.. pwnage..
wow..
Uhm… I am not trying to defend this douche, she gets whatever punishment well deserved but… the mixtape thing is stretching it a bit. How do you know she didn’t buy the tarcks of the mixtape and as such has reproduction rights like any other DJ? Would that make every DJ set posted online illegal? Just sayin’
“This is really stupid, at the end of the day lilly was right”
No, at the end of the day she is no different than us Pirates. She has peoples copyrighted works on her website.
So, she is no different than us aside from not really having a position. She is just a fooking moron. How is it she can maintain her position whilst repeatedly doing the same shit?
In fact, I think I will use the mafia form to report her website for clear violations.
J.
lol, poor girl… she really has no clue wtf she’s doing does she. Perhaps it’s just best if she keeps her nose out of things she has no idea about.
These are people whose businessplan consists of letting Apple/iTunes take 90% of their profits just because they’re too lazy to set up a little webshop, even with bittorrent’s free distribution available (and proven).
For starters, just find ways to let people give you the money directly (donations plan on CDs, for example) and start taking money away from the industrialized part of your art.
That’ll give you more power than bullying your scapegoated fans who are just trapped between their love for music, and outdated businessplans with pre-internet lobbied copyright laws.
Stand up for yourself, your art, and your fans – not for some fatcat industry middleman who still thrives off of creative slaves.
So, a few years back in ‘05, Tina Turner was in Copenhagen hired for the Hans Christian Andersen memorial thing.
She charged the city $1.000.000 (yes, one million bucks) to play TWO damn songs!
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmafp/is_200505/ai_n14752728/
Dear stars, quit yer whining. The truth at the end of the day is that the megastars among you folks are WAY overpaid.
It is understandable that you want to keep it that way, and one can relate to the lesser imps like the Allens, Blunt’s. These cretins just want to get up there and make it big themselves and have their 15 cars and coccaine nose jobs.
A large chunk of this money goes hired goons in the music industry who are hellbent on bringing things back to the way things were in the good old golden 50’s, where citizens had proper respect for authority figures, there were no cassette tapes and things were generally under control. It’s not going to happen people.
Eventually you will realise that technology will always be 10 paces ahead of the law. So you might score a point against a handfull of swedes. Big deal, even if they lose the appeal, what did you accomplish? You think all pirates will go “OMFG, we better stop pirating now!” Not gonna happen.
The long term threat to your kind are the pirate parties. Sure you goons might laugh it off today, but what… just what if, these fine scurvy pirates manage to pull enough votes to change the laws which you blatantly abuse? I can assure you, it will suck to be you.
To Jack Valenti and all your successors. The planet would be better off isf your kind were hurled towards the un. You offer NO service to this world other than feeding a few fat cats and lining your own pockets.
Oh yeah, as it says on the box, I’m a Dane. For the record – Lars Ulrich: You make me sick, you stupid little monkey. Or as we would say it: “Hop i havnen, din lille skidespræller!”
at nearly 78 years and a fortnight, I’ve been through more than the most of you on this forum (sorry, I think this is some form of sound board for people to reflect and speak their mind). I find some things disturbing about the culture you create and the nonsense and criticisms you hold like like gun to the head of your peers who you acknowledge. The waste of which likens to something my generation would call ungrateful and ignorant. now, I’ve not been a butterfly in my lifetime, but, my gut feeling is that you people have some kind of fling for criticism. Not in the way true critics used to do it, but, in some sort of reflection of void that you are not getting from the society that you continually perpetuate. What I’m saying here is I’ve been through more technology changes than you’ll ever bat an eye about. In my time, technology changed. Life changed. I’ve lived through a few wars. Lost siblings. Looked after my mother for 35 years until she died. The youth of today have lost their sense of worth. There is no longer a code of honour. The code is lost. The culture isn’t either free or paid for. It’s gone like dust in the wind. Unless you create a front or a dynamic rather than a sounding board with no true offering and unless you stop hiding behind nonsense, unless you rise to the cause and make every attempt to find worth in everything our read or see or do, you have become a useless generation and I feel as though the wars I fought in and the time I spent has been wasted. That aside. I’ve had a drink. But, my fingers still function and I hope I survive to see what you will really do with the technology you have here. And in the while, maybe have a good hard look in the mirror and think about building. It’s not my generation of bankers who brought you into recession. We grew your fortunate selves. Get on with it properly.
@61
Nice ass? You’ve SO got to be kidding. That’s a total flapper! A cellulite nightmare by the looks of it too.
You can even see her Hackney license plate on top :)
Hey, come on, Lilys just trying to make the world a better place through music, and she has her own beliefs that she stands behind…
Not our fault if she may be technically retarded.
Lily, if are actually reading this, I want to help you. I admire your conviction, so what im going to do is download all of your work from the internet, so that no one else can. I dont care if I have to buy a hundred new hard drives, I’ll make sure I get every last copy of your music off the internet. Because you know, I admire you and stuff. Just let me know what you want me to do with it, I’ll be reading the comments on here for you.
:)
@carnegie
So 78 years and a fortnight and you have yet to discover this wonderful thing called the paragraph?
And, for what its worth, we “are” doing something about it.
J.
@62: the bankers just did their greedy job for the bonus – the crisis was caused by the removal of proper oversight by the equally greedy but slightly more grayhaired politicians.
Copyright laws are so tricky, no politician dares touch them, even though they are clearly outdated by the rapid changes in technology of the last decade, which also have had a profound effect on the way people communicate socially.
Nowadays, someone can easily build up a network of thousands of friends, that they want to share things with, including music they like.
There have never been so many opportunities for artists to reach people directly, if only they’d manage to look beyond the propaganda of their captors.
.. i’d still tap that.
Apparently she doesn’t know that crack is whack! xD
I would Tap Her over and over
she might a natural Blond that would explain her dumbness
@ seko
yea after making her sweat off a few pounds…..or as they say in england sweat off a few stones….well in here case a few boulders.
And to think, it’s people like this that are so far from reality that are trying to help change and enforce laws.
It’s really rather pathetic.
“Clueless about copyright” How ironic, since most pirates seem to know nothing about copyright or intellectual propertyy. They refuse to acknowledge that they are breaking any laws at all. So, lilly allen linked something copyrighted onto her blog once.. That’s bad right? How about movies that are downloaded millions of times?
@62
Carnegie, interesting post. I guess it’s not everyday we get one of you old-timers in here. Indeed if that’s what you are. Mind you – anybody can be behind an alias in here, but your post has a sincere ring to it, hence I will respond to it in kind.
Right, with that being said, first off, I’d bet your granddadday back in his day thought you and your generation were no-good-for-nothin’ young lollygiggers too :-) I’m from the early seventies and I already sometimes feel like bashing in the head of the Ipod generation!
Speaking of which; when you say “I’ve been through more technology changes than you’ll ever bat an eye about”, I beg to differ. Granted, many important discoveries were made in your time, as well as before it. But as we entered the age of the commercial computer, and the Internets became a realilty, things changed completely. The biggest change was the speed of change. Granted, Babbage, Neumann and Turing all played essential roles in the fledgeling computer technology, however – you may be familiar with Moores Law. Either way I guess a visit to the patent office may verify the state of play. I goggled around a bit and found this graph http://www.ipcheckups.com/images/chart_filing.gif. If this chart is worth any indication, there has been significantly more innovation in “my time” since the early 70’s till now, than since you were born in the early 30’s.
Now, onto the lost culture and code of honour. May I remind you that it is our younger generations that made a black man the President of the United States and a woman astronaut. Both things were unthinkable in the pre-worldwar generations.
Yeah we young whippersnappers babble, squablle and troll and whine and download and pirate and blahdiblahblahblah, etc. But at the end of the day, we get stuff done.
A Finn guy writes an computer operating system which had the biggest software company in shaking in it’s pants, calling it a “cancer”. Only to see them release linux code themselves 2 years later. Back in ‘99, A 15 year old kid in Norway writes a program to decrypt DVD’s freaking out the entire movie industry, In 2002 an american programmer writes the foundations of the most successfull internet protocoll for file distribution ever invented.
Linus Thorvaldson, Jon Johansen and Bram Cohen are examples of heroes and innovators of the younger generations. Many of our post-worldwar parents have no clue what we’re about. Hell, we don’t even have a clue ourselves, but we deal with what’s ahead of us, and reserve our right to anonymously moan, bitch and complain. What exactly sets us aside from you in that respect btw?
Btw, I can recommend you a book: Microserfs by Douglas Copeland. In my personal opinion, it gives a good look into the mindset of my generation.
stfu! her music is better than some of perez bitches!
Hahah .. Stupid filthy slut. Time to ask the RIAA why they will not sue her.
That’s just too funny.
Epic fail by Lily Allen!
ROTFL, no way dude who would have thunk it? LOL
RT
http://www.online-privacy.us.tc
Um are the typos in this article trying to point out the typos in her blog? Hope so… otherwise…. proofread before commenting on another’s misspellings?
Lily seems the right kind of gal to be leading a “Save the Whales” or “Save the Planet” campaign…
It is probably a god thing she isn’t working with heavy machinery or firearms.
Please, no one breed with this one, we don’t want to doom the future of the species.
It’s quite interesting that she doesn’t consider plagiarising an article on the Internet as being copyright infringement.
I don’t know anyone who doesn’t download MP3s, however the music industry is still surviving somehow. I think they’re blowing everything out of proportion.
Bowmer over at #65 obviously has no idea whatsoever how filesharing works. >_>
Funny how you made a spelling mistake in the same sentence that you are correcting hers.
blogs copy stuff from everywhere – including sites like Kotaku and engadget who rip info daily.
What is new in the world of blogs. Over the top reaction possibly.
A Message to Lily Allen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTXQFEdXTiQ
HUH?
hasn’t performed live in yrs?
over 47 live gigs this yr alone
btw, thanks for facepwoning lily allen.
I expect the Mafiaa will place a sort of gag order on the artists it rips off (er, represents) so they will never speak publicly on copyright subjects again. From the point of view of the recording industry parasites, this matter is better left to those self-interested lawyers (scumbags) skilled in rhetoric, who make hundreds of dollars an hour on the backs of these corporations (James Blunt, et al.) who try to pose as human beings.
Lily rocks, Perez sucks!!
Mind doing some spell checks before you go on insulting people, TF?
ok i had to make a video out of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNSoWkEkbCU
Here’s the video on mp4 format if you want to upload it elsewhere before Electronics Arts claim my soul:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=3583efdbffc0f9b21bee9a6e9edd9c76e04e75f6e8ebb871
Epic win.
Lilly sucks ma arse cuz she can’t sing. I have no comment about Perez other than he is obese
@92
Too much work to check Lily’s posts.
Stupid slut.
Every time you download a song, a musician can’t afford a new ivory backscratcher.
How can you people live with yourselves!?
shes sooooo brain washed by the currupted riaa/mpaa thats shes even spouting word for word on her blog
if she goes to the isp sites and read there instead of second guessing or by 3 party whisping in her ear she would she therer lies and wot crapp thay force out on plp
fact is thay dont send warning letters out its on be half of the mpaa/riaa thay snoop on the connect from files and tell the isp thay think there infinge of copywright so theres a lot that shes mislead or misleading plp on her blog and allso wot back hander she got for being there spokes person thay buying 100,000 cd s of hers or even worst she running for goverment
Can she just go back to having pictures taken of her with her tits/ass hanging out?
@100:
Why would *anybody* want to see that? /:)
She should have used her money to buy a fucking dictionary and a half decent education, instead of blowing it all on booze and drugs.
Speaking as an editor, you boys need to invest in a spell-checker; this story is almost unreadable.
Who listen to her crappy music anyway… So therefore who the hell would pirate any of her shitty work!!
Tuck your head Lily Allen!
Perhaps she needs to look for a new industry coz the only people she will end up offending are those strange people that actually like her sub-standard music, her fans!
This is truly bordering on the ridiculous…
@4 Norman
“and who the fuck is lily allen?”
I’m wondering the same thing myself.
All I can say is that Lily Allen is retarded and gives the mentally challenged a bad name.
Didn’t you know Lily Allen? Copyright infringement is against the law!
I hope she has enough common sense to give her self up to the proper authorities in a peaceful and respectable manner. It’s a law for a reason! Just like jaywalking.
I’ll take her anally
91 Sep 24, 2009 at 06:12 by 232
Lily rocks, Perez sucks!!
Lily rocks??
Last time I checked you were a absolute & complete moron.
https://www.riaa.com/reportpiracy.php
Go on everybody directly report the downloads ….
Thats see if any happens to the new dream girl of the ANTI P2P
seriously,who is she?
If I write a joke or amusing story and then tell you this joke I have lost control of the copyright.
You could go and tell a friend or even email it to someone (peer-to-peer).
Technology has resulted in music and other recorded media going the same way.
You simply cannot control the distribution once it is “out there”.
Has this resulted in a complete collapse of comedy? No.
Will Bit Torrent/Limewire/Napster kill music? No.
Q. How many Sony / BMG Music Executives does it take to change a light bulb?
A. Send $1.99 via PayPal to “lilyallen_is_living_in_the_past@nostalgia_is_not_what_it_used_to_be.com” for the hilarious answer.
Champagne Socialist!
Wounder why Lily is so ignorant of copyright laws?
She’s really neo.styles and Retarded Mind.
Die, bitch ,Die!!
Gezzus, she must be really lame.
I’m not sure what i should say about this. It’s obvious lily is fighting for a lost cause, and these new facts are not really helping her.
But seriously, are you guys judging lily allen by 2 mixtapes she made? I probably have downloaded hundred of thousands of tracks, so i can’t really say those 16 tracks are that much of a big deal.
And the “Even perez agreed” part made me lol. Who takes that guy seriously?
thanks to the world attacking lilly “rose” allen. this P2P shit.
-JUST FU-kin Got REAL.
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87055/fac-invites-artists-to-urgent-p2p-summit/
She`s nothing but a dozy cow.
@92, does spelling really matter that much? It’s the reasoning behind the article thats important…
You can take this as a classic case, one that shows something very strange and a little disturbing. It is the people like Lily Allen, rather than the labels and others etc. who are pushining to maximise IP and copyright protection, who are the MOST dangerous in all of this.
See Lily Allen and the rest of those idiots who come out spewing the industry mantra have a very twisted and warped view of it all and Lily Allen proves it in her words and actions.
The problem is that these people see themselves solely as “copyright holders” and NEVER EVER as “copyright users”. They think, because they have a copyright on their music, that they are somehow “on the other side” of copyright and it doesn’t apply to them.
Thus, we have the idiotic situation where these total fucking puppets come out in support of stronger copyright and kicking ppl off the internet WITHOUT EVEN THINKING that it applies to them too.
No, you see, they think because they have a copyright on “something” (their music), that they are somehow ABOVE copyright.
In proof, I present Exhibit A your honour… Lily I-can-copy-wtf-I-want-cos-copyright-is-only-for-you-fucking-peasants-and-not-for-me Allen.
Who is this Lilley Anell anyway?
A flash in the pan if ever I saw one.
Peace.
+1 to who is lily allen?
Great. I hate that b**ch, and now when I’ve found out this, I hate her even more. I hope she gets sued and has to pay some incredible sum that will ruin her “career” and hopefully, her entire life.
To those of you who don’t know who she is, I can only say – lucky you. She’s a “pop-singer” desperately trying to be controversial. In other words, a stupid wh***.
who is lily allen?
sue her for millions plz.
Now she’s left entirely: http://www.3news.co.nz/Lily-Allen-quits-music-industry/tabid/209/articleID/122622/Default.aspx?ArticleID=122622
shame cuz i did like her, but yeah publicly bashing file sharing while sharing “mix-tapes” on your website = pretty dumb. when will these people learn that if it wasnt for these stupid 3 strike policies popping up everywhere they might get some support.
i mean disconnecting someone for simply posting copyrighted material to a blog/you tube whatever is a little over the top disconnecting someone for downloading music/films/games/software continually after being warned is more on track but in my opinion that person should be proved to be making profit from it. after all its the people going out ripping cds/dvds and recording cinema releases with cameras that are the real criminals in all this. even if they do manage to squash filesharing to almost nothing (compared to now) more people will just go back to selling dvds on street corners/markets and making tidy profits for themselves. wouldnt we rather keep the money out of criminals hands??? rather than punishing the average joe
oh i forget im the criminal arent i? :(
When she copied that content from TechDirt, Lily Allen technically did nothing wrong. Mike from TechDirt has previously stated that he chooses not to retain copyright and has dedicated all the articles to the public domain, and the USA does not have moral rights and doesn’t require attribution.
So while what she did could be considered unethical, there is legally nothing wrong with it in this specific case. Ideally she should have made it clearer that it was intended as a quote. Although, because she didn’t do that, had she done it with content from some other site that does retain copyright, then there would be a legitimate legal problem.
Oh my god … I was reading her blog this morning and having a laugh, just checked again and it’s gone … looks like she’s deleted the whole Blog … ha ha.
The LA’s blog is empty, wtf?
Blogs has gone as she could not take the back lash (Twitter)
Also Silly Lily has left music so can you say Free publicity
Still I guess since she was found out to be a file sharing hypocrite she will need to disappear for a while
Jeez people, get a grip!
Firstly: you can speak nicely about/to someone, even if you disagree with something they’ve said. Do you not think she will be interested and may read what you’ve written. Stop behaving like twats. It would be nice if the moderator would ‘not tolerate personal attacks’.
Secondly: are you consistent in everything you do? Give other people a little space to make mistakes, learn and change their minds. Especially, remember that we each have more than one role – we’re both producers and consumers of goods, and the pressures of each role are different: is it then surprising to find inconsistencies?
Lastly, do you not think that Lily Allen has a point; it’s not terribly unreasonable to be paid for something you do if that’s your job. As a producer of goods, whether physical or intangible, it’s how we earn money. As a consumer of goods, paying less for the same good is great – it means I can do more with less money. What’s missing is balance on the part of the music industry – i.e. the cost of the goods – and on the part of the consumers, in that some of us are prepared to take intangible goods without admitting that even intangible goods have a cost of production and distribution, or that there is a moral argument for the producers reaping ample reward for the production of popular goods.
Lily Allen just cracked out and deleted all its blog posts! She couldn’t handle the pressure probably!
ha ha i see that. so funny.
@Lachlan Hunt which she did, by scanning and uploading from the UK Time without issuing credit to the journalist or quoting source.
Here’s her twitter she says she’s ’shutting down the blog because the abuse was too much’. LOL, she can’t make the difference between abuse and real opinions that people want to debate.
http://twitter.com/lilyroseallen
After we found out that Lily Allen copied an article from Techdirt without attribution or permission to prove why copyright infringement is wring, we called her a hypocrite.
I’d suggest checking your own spelling rather than concentrating on Lily’s so much. I think you meant wrong rather than wring.
And just for that imma go download her music now….
Google cache:
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:71YTrvaYcn4J:idontwanttochangetheworld.blogspot.com/+http://idontwanttochangetheworld.blogspot.com/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&ie=UTF-8
So is she now saying EMI are Pirates?
owned
Sorry looks like google lost it so the post from Ms Lily Allen in all it’s glory:
“i made those mixtapes 5 years ago, i didn’t have a knowledge of the workings of the music industry back then, and my attitudes towards mixtapes have changed since then. As your article clearly states , lilyallenmusic.co.uk is an EMI run website, which is exactly why i don’t acknowledge it (i think theres a link to it on my myspace(which i do run), thats purely because, my record contract states i cant sell my merchandise online anywhere else on the net . i don’t post on there, i dont even look at it. the record company run it. I’m not siding with the majors and i’ve always claimed that the labels have been naive, this is laughable, i agree and this proves my point. Anyway the snippets of songs you hear on those mixtapes are about 30 seconds to 1 minute in length, in traditional mixtape style, it is infringement, correct, but it’s not my site, it’s EMI’s. i am not a hypocrite, i don’t illegally download music, and i still think unauthorised file sharing is wrong.”
hehe well done guys she’s final bitten the dust seems she has deleted all post on her blog it’s not all right.
http://idontwanttochangetheworld.blogspot.com/
total pwnage remember don’t mess with the internet.
i hope she has now realizes the implications of imaginary property.
just in case i’ll list a few
drug cost
many cancer patients die every year in the uk thank to the high cost of cancer drugs which in reality cost pennies to make but sold for thousands. but not just cancer patients the same could be said for third world countries.
now that is the REALL reality of copyright and intellectual property.
it funny when bono say hes trying to change things when his views on copyright and ip are the real problem.
damage to creativity
fascist
i can think of others but can’t be bothered.
so remember kids copyright and intellectual property KILLS
funny thing is the riaa have bleeding good case here to make a example of,
and whats more lily alan as plaintive whould be perfect she and her family have that kind of money.
it would be a dead-cert.
@carnegie,
the number of points you have raised all point back to one thing for which our generation has nothing to do with, and that is profit.
we live in a society driven by fear, from the top down. war only exists to line the pockets of BAE Systems, QinnetiQ and the like, we are held to ransom by the banks because of their failings, and greed, and told that if we don’t foot the bill the country will slide in to the deepest depression ever. And you can bet that when we ask for that money back, we will be met with the response that they will just move the operation somewhere else, which will shed 10s of thousands of jobs. It is yours, and other previous generations, whom have systematically destroyed local industry, destroyed community, promoted selfishness, removed obstacles (safegaurds) which hindered the free flow of money, created ways for the super rich to avoid putting anything back into society, these super rich are represented by the music industry, who refuse to believe that a tradition supply and demand business model is not workable, and further fail to realise that music existed fine without them in the past, and with the introduction of the internet will work better without them in future. The one track mind, of profit profit profit, will see there demise. filesharing cost the record companies nothing, and they know it. most albums / track people download they would never have purchased in the first place, and some purchase more as a result of filesharing.
Copyright and Patent laws have hindered everything they have become attached to. I think everyone of us here, believes that the creator, deserves to be paid for their work, the issue is, who is actually getting paid for their work, how much are they being paid for their work, and for how long should they continue to be paid for their work.
With record companies wanting to extend copyright to 80 years. its clear that the music industry is only interested in itself, not the artist.
The same with Medical Patents, Wanting to block a generic alternative for as long as they can so they can monopolise pioneering drugs and extort private and public patients for as long as possible.
Yours and subsequent generations have a lot to answer for.
The internet, is bringing back community, albeit a very different one from the past, but a community no the less, and one with the power to see through change, one of strength, and one of ethics.
@138, you will notice at the bottom of the website the copyright is held by EMI, who i’m sure will have no problems securing rights to distribute those tracks.
Looks like she can’t take the truth or all the attention – Her blog’s gone completely as far as I can see
ROFLMFAO
EPIC win
This simply shows you’re kids on a playground and really deserve what you are about to receive.
In space nobody can hear you screamin’
Perfect time for Lilly to open up that cake shop she was dreaming about:
http://tinyurl.com/y984ouk
Lily Allen Demands Control of the Internet – http://cultsha.com/lily-allen-demands-control-of-the-internet/
I downloaded her mix tapes, shit I just pirated!
At first, when I see you cry
It makes me smile,
It makes me smile,
Yeah it makes me smile.
Oh dear she’s going to sue me for copywright. For once in her career, the above lyrics she wrote are rather apt. Silly mare.
Put You On The Game – The Game
is my favorite song by The Game!
Thanks Lilly, now I don’t have to buy his whole CD for just that one song!!!!
Well that lasted about a week.
FAIL.
Learn to spell
@ Jeff # 131
Well said sir. I don’t agree with her attitude on piracy and am ok with anyone who wishes to raise their own little Jolly Roger for non-commercial purposes, but the tone of some of these posts are just hateful.
I’ve downloaded some of her material, enjoyed it, and bought some. Don’t like her music? No problem – don’t. But there’s no need to be so nasty about it.
And for the record, yeah, I’d tap that too. ;-)
damn, this is 100x better than flame wars on a forum.
sorry – that should read “the tone of some of these posts *is* just hateful”.
PIMF
Downs…
win.
You’re all a bunch of thieving little cunts
love your stuff lily,live in the real world 700 people lost there jobs where i work now thats the real world. ive got your music and i paid for it.now think i will do a little file sharing
“Lily tackles the issue of digital music piracy over in her new blog.”
Click on the link its gone.. Hahahaha
If you’re going to quote someone using [sic], you should make sure your own spelling is okay. “here” for “her”, “wring” for “wrong”
I remember when ‘Home Taping is Killing Music’ was the equivalent. Then the horror of selling blank CD’s to members of the public. This has been going on for over 30 years. The large record companies have no interest in change except to extend the copyright period – isn’t it about time that musicians worked out a new paradigm for living off their work?
Having said that, it already exists with bands selling their own stuff online. So why isn’t it happening more and why hasn’t some bright entrepreneur set up an umbrella site for all these self-marketing bands?
I’m pretty sure I know why Lily Allen is so up in arms about copyrights. Her newest album sucks ass. Her first was good, second, not so much. Declining sales much?
I think you meant:
“I THINK ITS [sic] QUITE OVIOUS [sic] THAT I WASNT [sic] TRYING TO PASS OF [sic] THOSE WORDS AS MY OWN , [sic] HERE IS A LINK TO THE WEBSIITE [sic] I ACQUIRED THE PIECE FROM.”
She doesn’t know what’s right and what’s real anymore.
To all the people defending her: she’s *actively* criticizing pirates while she pirates articles and music!
If hypocrisy isn’t good enough reason to criticize her, I don’t know what is.
Is this a statement criticizing spelling which contains a spelling error?
?Judging from here response it is “quite obvious” that Lily doesn’t have a clue about copyright.
Lily Allen & Cartel: IN YOUR FACE, BITHCES!
As see said in one of her lamo songs Fuck you, you close minded person. Take you own advise Lily Allen.
I’m not a supporter of Lily Allen, but jumping on the spelling mistake of ‘obvious’ at the beginning of this article seems very stupid – especially as Ernesto then spells ‘wrong’ with an ‘i’ and ‘here’ with an ‘e’ on the end. Typos I’m sure, but if I was going to point out someone’s spelling mistakes I’d make damn sure mine were 100% correct first.
Who the hell would want to listen to that jumped up little cow’s egotistical chav shit music anyway, Illegally or legally?
Go eat shit Lily.
Way to shout at other’s about stuff you don’t know about.
I love it when people think they should be the only ones allowed to do something, it’s funny.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hJbe28rJwFKBYB4hvGrk4CI9yBRA
Shockingly, she was just trying to be dramatic. She shan’t be putting her money where her mouth is, my friends.
“the USA does not have moral rights”
\o/
Everyone is assuming the worst but this was BEFORE she was famous. She was just doing what the Super Mash Bros. are doing and everyone loves them. Now that she has her own shit she took it down and realized illegal downloading is bad. People are allowed to make mistakes. That’s what some public speakers do. A drunk driver who killed a student on spring break came to my high school to talk about drunk driving and how it ruins your life and others. People can make mistakes, realize their mistakes, and try and turn it around.
http://www.upstartblogger.com/who-shot-upstart-blogger
the real truth
Stupid talentless bitch. Her ignorance is astounding.
> Even celebrity guru Perez Hilton agreed with this assessment…
What the fuck difference does it make what Perez Hilton thinks? God.
I don’t like lily allen or her music but after this im inclined to pirate her album.
lily allen is a jack ass
Ha,Ha i just so love it when talentless people like Lily Allen cut there own throats with stupidity like this. She has just ruined her career. Oh well back she goes to scrounge off Daddy. Lily.. take a lesson from me.. I have worked for many pro bands and top 100 bands in the studio i also release my own works.. If someone downloads one of my songs and enjoys it then thats a fan who may purchase a CD in the future so good on them let them download my songs. Now if they download my songs and sell them thats different and thats where you should of concentrated on the black market sellers, counterfiet artists not the poor recession hit public of the united kingdom. Did you know that nearly 20 million people in the uk download either p2p etc.. Thats a lot of fans you have just lost.
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