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LimeWire Settles With Record Labels, Still Faces $1 Billion Claim

After LimeWire was ordered to cease its operations, the legal troubles continued for the file-sharing company. Dozens of record labels still demanded hundreds of millions of dollars in damages to compensate for their claimed losses. One of these lawsuits involving all the major music publishers has now been settled, reducing the potential damages to just a billion dollars the record labels are claiming in another case.

limewireAfter LimeWire shut down its file-sharing business in October last year, the trouble for the company was far from over. Record labels and music publishers kept chasing LimeWire demanding compensation for the losses they claim the file-sharing service operator had caused.

One of these lawsuits has now been concluded with EMI, Warner Bros., Universal, Sony and several other major music publishers reaching a settlement agreement with LimeWire. No details on the deal have been released, except the court filing which note that both parties “shall each bear its own costs of suit, including attorney’s fees.”

While this settlement brings to an end a lawsuit started in June last year when LimeWire was still operational, by no means does it mark the end of LimeWire’s legal troubles. Due to the complex copyright pyramid the music industry has set up, many of the same companies are still fighting the company in a separate case as copyright owners (vs. publishers).

This case is where the permanent injunction which forced LimeWire to shut down was issued last October. According to the injunction, LimeWire “intentionally encouraged infringement” by LimeWire users, its software was used “overwhelmingly for infringement” and the company knew about the “substantial infringement being committed” by its users.

The evidence further showed that LimeWire marketed its application to Napster users and that its business model depended on mass copyright infringements.

The injunction was the result of a lengthy and ongoing litigation process which dates back to 2006, and soon after it was awarded the record labels filed a claim to recoup damages said to have been caused by LimeWire. The labels calculated that the company behind the popular file-sharing client owes them up to a billion dollars.

The case dragged on and in recent weeks dozens of documents were submitted to the court in a noteworthy side-battle. To get to the bottom of how the music industry sets up licensing deals with other Internet companies, LimeWire subpoenaed internal emails from Apple, Amazon, Yahoo, Google, MySpace and others.

Thus far a quarter million pages of emails have been collected, leading LimeWire to draw some interesting conclusions. Among other things, they found that unauthorized downloads actually boosted the revenue of music labels, and that their income took a dive when LimeWire shut down.

Both parties continue their dispute in the coming weeks and a trial has been scheduled for May, in which the damages claim will be assessed.

While the record labels are hoping to catch a big score against LimeWire, many ex-users of its file-sharing client have moved on to one of the many LimeWire alternatives, or the resurrected pirate edition.

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  • Anon

    Greedy bastards.

  • http://about.me/chrisfink Chris Fink

    it’s so hilariously sad… the little bit of legal music selling that Limewire had on the side, seems to be the only casualty of this whole BS machine the studios got rolling by suing this site into oblivion. the revamped (decentralized) client & the network remain & are as strong as ever from what i’ve read, while many people just moved on to other clients as was mentioned in the article. after aaaaaall of this pointless charades, wouldn’t it be fun to know what the record labels spent to get this extremely hollow non-victory? if only… studios #priorityFAIL

  • Porky Pirate

    Limes don’t protect against thee music label scurvy.

  • Fag

    Limewire sux anyways

  • Mainframe Xaiver

    Limewire should push the envelope and counter sue them for extortion , and fraud. an un biased independent study has to be done.

  • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

    Hands up all those who love the MAFIAA?

    Oops do I see no hands because they’ve all been chopped off at the wrist simply because you were suspected of copywrong infringement?

    I’m now a Cap’n Hook ye know oh ahhrrrr – Oh Aaaaaahhhhrrrrrrrrrr me hearties.

  • BoSNiaN

    Frostwire! Google it, its always been better than limewire anyway :)

  • BoSNiaN

    Frostwire! Google it, its always been better than limewire anyway :)

  • Dotj

    Headline is inaccurate.

  • Dotj

    Headline is inaccurate.

    • Anonymous

      Your Mom is inaccurate.

  • Anonymous

    They are not only are self-righteous and greedy extortionists, they only made limewire more powerful than ever by trying to kill it, frostwire is definitely much more deadlier than it’s predecessor.

    • Momo

      I think you meant, more powerful than they can possibly imagine?

  • Anonymous

    They are not only are self-righteous and greedy extortionists, they only made limewire more powerful than ever by trying to kill it, frostwire is definitely much more deadlier than it’s predecessor.

  • DocGerbil100

    “[...] in recent weeks dozens of documents were submitted to the court in a noteworthy side-battle. To get to the bottom of how the music industry sets up licensing deals with other Internet companies, LimeWire subpoenaed internal emails from Apple, Amazon, Yahoo, Google, MySpace and others.

    Thus far a quarter million pages of emails have been collected, leading LimeWire to draw some interesting conclusions. Among other things, they found that unauthorized downloads actually boosted the revenue of music labels, and that their income took a dive when LimeWire shut down.”

    Wait, what?! They’re own internal documents have been exposed as saying the exact same damn thing we’ve been saying all this time? That can’t be right – after all, we’ve had so many people on here claiming the opposite, they can’t possibly all have been lying through their miserable fraudulent teeth. >:D

    • Dr. Dicken Hand

      EPIC!!!

    • ndmushroom

      Any chance of those documents getting “leaked”? They should make for quite an interesting read…

      • IANAL

        Most of the documents recently presented in the case were filed under seal. However, the judge has asked the plaintiffs and defendants to justify why they’re sealing so many documents, so it’s possible that some of the documents will become available later.

        If you’re interested in following the case you can sign up for an account at pacer.gov, which will give you access to PDFs of all the unsealed documents (for a charge of 8 cents per page – but we don’t mind paying for electronic media, right?).

        • Justice

          I do mind. I can’t see fair justice when u have to pay for accessing it.

      • IANAL

        Most of the documents recently presented in the case were filed under seal. However, the judge has asked the plaintiffs and defendants to justify why they’re sealing so many documents, so it’s possible that some of the documents will become available later.

        If you’re interested in following the case you can sign up for an account at pacer.gov, which will give you access to PDFs of all the unsealed documents (for a charge of 8 cents per page – but we don’t mind paying for electronic media, right?).

    • Anonymous

      Limewire can we please have those emails!

    • Ninja

      You see, they can use copyright to earn easy money through legally threatening ppl so why would they admit file sharing helps them if they can have it helping their sales and giving them money in lawsuits at the same time? Greed my friend, greed.

  • Momo

    If the RIAA gives you lemons, SQUEEZE THEM IN THEIR EYES!!!

    • http://twitter.com/ezee ezee

      Good one, laughed!

    • http://twitter.com/ezee ezee

      Good one, laughed!

    • http://crashsuit.blogspot.com crashsuit

      Sounds fun, almost like some kind of lemon-themed party!

  • trustnoone

    This is total bullshit!!! Lime-wire hardly ever had pirated music, the only thing that was on lime-wire was a crap load of viruses and malware. You might not think so because you’re good at computers but try seeing my friends who can’t tell the difference between a .exe and a .mp3.
    I reckon Lime-wire should jump out and declare bankruptcy, albeit the company will be bankrupt but the people should be fine since it was a company infringement not a staff one.

    • Zero

      there is not much hope for someone who cant tell .exe and a .mp3 file apart. these are the basics of computers, and even novices will pick these things up quickly after eventually realizing thier mistakes. also virus’s are everywhere.

      Now lets see these internal docs that say that Pirating music increases sales

    • DocGerbil100

      I don’t think the LimeWire network can fairly be blamed for the crass idiocy of the average LimeWire user, any more than they can be blamed for the existence of piracy.

      The easiest online services to use – for any given purpose – will inevitably attract the most stupid users. In the case of music-sharing, the easiest service to use was LimeWire. In my experience, you could give such users instructions on how to avoid viruses written in 300-foot high letters of fire burnt into the side of Mount Ararat and they’d still end up with infested machines.

      The last LimeWire user’s machine I disinfected had over a thousand distinct items of malware on it, caused by years of the user never clicking cancel “just in case it might be something important”. She only asked for help once the machine became incapable of booting – and both the OS and all the user’s data were a complete, irrecoverable write-off.

      Those who allow their machines to fill up with viruses are potentially a source of great harm to everyone, wherever they go online. It’s up to those users to learn not to be such an easy target for the malware writers. If they’re too stupid to learn, they shouldn’t be allowed on the internet without supervision.

      • Ninja

        The Mount Arat part brought me to tears laughing. But you see, my parent’s were one hell of a challenge but they became quite aware of how to avoid viruses and malwares. Nowadays if they aren’t sure about links or e-mails they don’t open and ask me. I’m so proud!

        I mean, if my parents can do it, any tech-newbie can if s/he puts some effort and attention in it. The rest is just a sum of laziness and idiocy altogether.

    • Anonymiss

      Don’t blame Limewire.

      You’d be better off blaming MS for having the ‘Hide extensions for know file types’ option enabled by default.

      • Derp

        That’s annoying, not to mention dangerous. But then again, M$ makes software to brainless idiots.

  • Redbox Rocks

    To just a billion dollars. I think it funny how they get these large amount when there is no way Lime has that kind of money. It more like a joke. (expect for the people imvolved) Just like the lady in MN that couldn’t settle for the last offer of $25,000 because she didn’t have the money so now she has a judgment against her for 1.25 million. I guess these lawyers don’t understand the saying “You can’t squeeze blood out of a turnip”

  • Anonymous

    I’m so freaking sick of everyone suing nowadays. I’m going to sue the record industry for causing irreparable damage to my ears from listening to 9 crappy tracks out of 10 on the CDs they produce. I want a quadrillion dollars.

    • Phobophobia

      I will settle for nothing less than Simon Cowell’s head on a stick

  • 1neb

    Can’t prove losses. Anon, you best stfu.

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Do I detect attempted censorship from another copywrong troll?
      OK, remind us which parts of Anon’s speech you’d like removed.

      I’m sure the guys at TorrentFreak will oblige you lol

      • Anonymous

        “Can’t prove losses”

        Ermmm… I read that as the “industry” can’t prove its losses, which is one of the things you’ve been saying for ages.

      • Anonymous

        “Can’t prove losses”

        Ermmm… I read that as the “industry” can’t prove its losses, which is one of the things you’ve been saying for ages.

  • 1neb

    Anon. You really don’t want to play with us.
    I know this is off topic. Even demons die……………

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Very true, and copywrong trolls die too. Some die quietly, but others are pushed ….

      • Anonymous

        Ermmm… Aren’t the ‘demons’ he’s referring to the ‘media industry’ and ‘copyright cartels’? You know, the people you’ve been wishing death on for a while now.

    • bert

      I’m sorry but your topic is way too gay… I can’t listen to this shit

      • ernie

        I can’t hear you, i have a banana in my ear.

        • DocGerbil100

          Am I the only person totally confused by this entire exchange? :P

        • Pot

          Weed. It explains most of the weird topics here.

        • DocGerbil100

          Am I the only person totally confused by this entire exchange? :P

  • Echoman74

    i seriously find it funny after months ago i sent engimax and ernesto an email on an extremely serious topic about the pyramid scheme sumner redstone aka owner of VIACOM!!! IT’S THE EXACT SAME SCHEME THEY TRIED ON YOUTUBE AND NOW THE BLOOD SUCKING BASTARDS TRYING TO SUE YOuTUBE AGAIN.
    This is a video that’s 20 minutes long but highly informative.now torrentfreak first wants to post this while I told them and gave them the opportunity to let people know.kinda funny yet said and I all contacted eff.org no reply either. anyway watch theis video pass it on let everyone know etc etc etc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ikm2aTRSlA

  • Echoman74

    i seriously find it funny after months ago i sent engimax and ernesto an email on an extremely serious topic about the pyramid scheme sumner redstone aka owner of VIACOM!!! IT’S THE EXACT SAME SCHEME THEY TRIED ON YOUTUBE AND NOW THE BLOOD SUCKING BASTARDS TRYING TO SUE YOuTUBE AGAIN.
    This is a video that’s 20 minutes long but highly informative.now torrentfreak first wants to post this while I told them and gave them the opportunity to let people know.kinda funny yet said and I all contacted eff.org no reply either. anyway watch theis video pass it on let everyone know etc etc etc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ikm2aTRSlA

  • Neotoasty

    Limewire. Just die already. There are, and always will be, better alternatives out there. You’re just a slow java-programmed piece of junk filled with misleading files, viruses, and just junk in all.

  • http://twitter.com/nirvan5a nirvan5a

    Copying is not a theft, right?

    • sango bango

      Theft is not a copy

    • sango bango

      Theft is not a copy

  • http://www.patenttrademarklitigation.com/index.html Patent Litigation

    Thirteen record companies are still pursuing copyright litigation against Lime Wire, seeking possible damages totaling hundreds of millions of dollars.

    The companies include Arista, Atlantic, BMG Music, Capital, Elektra, Interscope, Laface, Motown, Priority, Sony BMG, UMG, Virgin and Warner Brothers, court records show. A trial in that case is scheduled for May 2.

  • Jolly_roger

    Thanx LimeWire! The worms are out of the can, the monkeys have escaped the barrel and it’s to late to put them back. Nize Work Whale It Lasted! Thanx Again!

  • Anonymous

    Still think it is funny that they are suing a car manufacturer for bank robberies committed with their cars. This would not fly in the real world. Or I guess we could see “The Italian Job” as encouraging the use of the Mini Cooper in the use of bank robbery. “Yeah but that is just a movie”. Yeah the other thing was just a text and it is all just words. He build software, like Microsoft build a browser that is also used to download. I was the one who downloaded music, not him. It is an insult that they say I did not know what I was looking for. I do not get encouraged to download, I was intentionally looking for it before I heard of it.

  • Anonymous

    Still think it is funny that they are suing a car manufacturer for bank robberies committed with their cars. This would not fly in the real world. Or I guess we could see “The Italian Job” as encouraging the use of the Mini Cooper in the use of bank robbery. “Yeah but that is just a movie”. Yeah the other thing was just a text and it is all just words. He build software, like Microsoft build a browser that is also used to download. I was the one who downloaded music, not him. It is an insult that they say I did not know what I was looking for. I do not get encouraged to download, I was intentionally looking for it before I heard of it.

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  • Anonymous

    I dont get it, why didnt they just flee with all that cash to a nice little non extraditable country somewhere??
    privacy-tools.cz.tc

    • We Hate Spam

      Please TF, ban posts containing ‘privacy-tools’. It’s not normal language when hyphenated and is only used fro this wanker’s spam.

  • Anonymous

    I dont get it, why didnt they just flee with all that cash to a nice little non extraditable country somewhere??
    privacy-tools.cz.tc

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  • Greenboigreg

    where is winmx?!

  • EEric B

    fuck limewire!!!

    go to http://www.vk.com
    use firefox and instal the VK addon to download your favirte music
    everything is free and no shit program as limewire needed

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