Littleshoot Adds BitTorrent Capabilities to Any Browser

A new version of the P2P plug-in Littleshoot makes it possible to download torrents right from within your browser. The software runs on Macs and Windows PCs and works with IE, Firefox, Chrome and Safari. It even offers Gnutella and Youtube integration as an added bonus.

Have you ever tried to explain BitTorrent to someone who has no clue about P2P? It’s challenging, isn’t it? Things that most of us take for granted really make no sense to users that aren’t all that tech-savvy. Don’t believe me? Just go to a site like Yahoo Answers – and be amazed by the number of people who just don’t understand why their Windows Media Player won’t play back this damn torrent file.

Sure, we could make fun of these people. Or we could help them with an easy way to download torrents without having to know about the pros and cons of enabling DHT in uTorrent. Littleshoot decided to try the latter approach with a new BitTorrent browser plug-in that is being unveiled today.

Littleshoot’s BitTorrent plug-in has been in the making for quite some time now. The company behind it was founded by the former Limewire developer Adam Fisk who initially set out to develop an application for sharing data within a circle of friends. Littleshoot eventually changed directions towards general purpose, browser-based P2P and finally launched last November, albeit without BitTorrent integration.

The plug-in’s first iteration looked a little like a solution that didn’t really know which problem it wanted to solve. Littleshoot offered Gnutella downloads through your browser as well as the capability of publishing data on a separate P2P network that is based on the open source SIP protocol. Both were great in theory, but people hardly shared any data via Littleshoot, and when it comes to media sharing Gnutella isn’t exactly the first choice anymore either.

Enter BitTorrent. Fisk teamed up with Julian Cain for this release, who previously developed the Mac torrent client BitRocket as well as Kazaa’s never-released OS X client and who has also been involved in a bunch of other P2P projects over the years. Their ambitious goal is to transform Littleshoot into something like the Flash player of the BitTorrent world. Install it once, then forget about it, and it will work with any content, on any site.

I’ve had a chance to test multiple builds of the client over the last couple of weeks, and I must say Littleshoot has come a long way towards achieving this goal. Install the client, visit any torrent site, click on a torrent download link – and Littleshoot starts do download the files in question right within your browser on a Web 2.0-ish download page. The client even automatically starts a Flash-based audio player if you download an MP3 file, and files can be easily forwarded through Twitter, Facebook and other social networks.

Littleshoot in action.

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It also offers a search page that makes it possible to simultaneously search isoHunt, Youtube, Flickr, Yahoo Video and the Littleshoot P2P network, or any subset of these services. This search page may not be that useful to advanced users that prefer sites other than Isohunt, but again, it’s a great feature for beginners.

Littleshoot doesn’t come with any configurable options at this time. All data is saved in a default download directory, and the client seeds files indefinitely. However, Fisk told me that future versions of Littleshoot will offer the option to shut down the client after a certain ratio is reached. The current download page already offers details about your ratio as well as your up-and download rates. Speaking of future changes: Littleshoot is still clearly in beta stage. The Windows version seemed especially rocky in earlier builds that I got to test, but most things seem to be working when it comes to the final version that has been made available today.

So what’s the final verdict? Littleshoot may still have some room for improvement, but it’s definitely promising. Not only because this is the first BitTorrent client your mom will be able to use, but also because the Littleshoot team definitely has its eyes set on bigger goals.

One of the plans for future releases is an SDK that will make it possible for website owners to offload the distribution of any file to Littleshoot. Just drop a few lines of Javascript in your blog, and your MP3 file will be available as a P2P download. Says Fisk: “If a site relies on P2P services, they’ll display an “install plugin” window, just like the user sees when they don’t have Flash on sites that require it.” Kinda makes you wonder how long it will take for a torrent site to integrate something like this for all of its files.

The new version of Littleshoot is currently available on this beta page and will launch on the Littleshoot home page later today.

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Guest author Janko Roettgers is a Los Angeles-based journalist. He is also the editor of P2P Blog.

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nice app!!
zms

Any browser? I dont see Opera listed :(
http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

Tap tap tap….
tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap …

what’s that tapping noise I hear you say, oh nothing much, just two more nails going into the MAFIAA’s coffin..
John

Opera all ready has an inbuilt torrent client ( which sucks actually -_-; very very slow )

It’s great for people who don’t know the ins and outs of torrents. They just click on file.torrent, and Opera starts downloading the file (after grabbing the torrent) instantly.

For anyone who has a dedicated torrent client and Opera, you’ll know how much of a pain this is.
To stop it, do:

about:config

Search for ‘torrent’

Click on the ‘BitTorrent’ heading to get the other options up

Untick enable

I like the idea of bringing more people into the torrent world – but if there client is no good, just like Opera’s it will end up getting disabled.

After all, the target market isn’t just torrent amatures – i want convenience too!
http://neuron2neuron.blogspot.com Ben Jones

The other way to disable is
tools > preferenes > advanced > downloads
uncheck hide types opened with oepra, search for bittorrent, and edit it.

I’ve submitted a request to Opera, that it checks for default torrent programs (through file association at least) before enabling the torrent client in Opera, and at least giving the option to use the opera client or not.
steve

so how do we stop a torrent from seeding as i can’t move the file or do anything with it as it’s still being seeded? :\
SableSlayer

I like the whole flash like idea. Hope it will work for advanced users who don’t want to use littleshoot for torrents or any other p2p.
Paul Irish

Wow congrats, Adam Fisk!
This is really solid news. Impressive technical feat, as well.
Kramerica Industries

You can stop seeding by dropping ur internet connection and then moving the file to another directory, then reactivate ur internet connection. still a beta for now, it will have more options on live i’m sure =D

great app!
a/s/l

nice. but i have utorrent.
Anonymous

God damnit.

The solution for solving computer illiteracy isn’t taking steps to make it so illiterates can function anyway. The solution is taking steps so they can actually become literate.

If a person can’t even handle .torrent files, they aren’t ready to use a computer yet. Don’t write browser plugins that enable them to surf the napsterwebz on their Apple Vista, explain to them how to comprehend their OS’ filesystem, download software, and double click on things.
damnit

@11

oh so mean. damnit

Ive been in this business for 30 years and find stuff incomprehensible everyday.

Some folks just dont bend that way. I had a heck of a time explaining to my wife that she did not have to use a rechargable toothbrush manually during a power outage. Her eyes go blank when I try to explain some of this stuff to her. Let alone explain Vistas filesystem.
John

11:
More sharers is good isn’t it? :3
NubCakes

Hey, at least it stops people hjit & running atm – maybe it should be left so you can’t stop seeding :P
Adam Fisk

Thanks for all the comments everyone and for the article, Janko. Some quick responses:

@2 The plugin works in Opera, although there are some issues with our Flash LittleShoot detector on our home page. The torrenting should work fine though.

@Paul Irish Thanks

The inability to stop seeding is definitely something we’ll address soon — might even go live on Windows later today.

I also just want to be clear about 1 thing: this isn’t intended to be “just for beginners” by any means. We aim to make it not only the easiest BitTorrent client to use, but also the fastest and most configurable. It’s also open source and uses open protocols (unlike utorrent =).

Oh, and you guys should seriously try those links next to your downloads. They basically result in whoever clicks the link starting to get the file right away — pretty magical the first time you see it.

Thanks again everyone. Back to work!

-Adam
Anonymous

“Oh, and you guys should seriously try those links next to your downloads. They basically result in whoever clicks the link starting to get the file right away — pretty magical the first time you see it.”

Mind clarifying with an explanation other than magic?
16

@11 some people simplylly don’t want to learn… what will we do…
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Mehall Douglas

Or, you can just use http://www.bitlet.org which works even behind a proxy. (Just remind them to leave it open after they finish downloading so it can seed for a while)

- Mehall (mehall.co.cc)
Adam Fisk

@16 Sure, sorry. Yeah, basically, the Twitter integration creates a tinyurl-style link and opens up a small browser window to twitter with that link in your message. You can write whatever message you like at that point of course. When other people click on the link, though, they just go straight to the LittleShoot download window and start seeing the file download. If it’s a single-file download, they can often start streaming it within about 10 seconds.

If they *don’t have LittleShoot* we automatically detect that and prompt for an install. Once it’s installed, though, these p2p links can just fly around with people one-clicking into browser-based p2p downloads. It basically takes about 3 or 4 major steps out of that process and lets links to torrents ultimately act like any other links, all handled right in the browser.

Works for FaceBook, e-mail and anywhere else too, of course, just seems particularly cool on Twitter.
Adam Fisk

I should also say there’s a *lot* going on behind the scenes that makes that sequence work. Redirects, cookies from the LittleShoot client allowing detection, non-obvious DNS configuration to enable cookies, the plugin ultimately detecting x-application/bittorrent and loading LittleShoot, which fires off the download, then AJAX calls in the browser to display it.

The cookies don’t store any private data — heck we never collect any private data we could store — they’re just there for LittleShoot detection.
Adam Fisk

@18 Sure, if you really like copying and pasting =).
Anonymous

@20
You need not get into cookies or privacy since µTorrent is closed source more likely than not sends back data to BitTorrent, Inc. At least you can look at the LittleShoot code-base.

@Editor
SIP isn’t “Open Source”, it’s an IETF standard, big difference.
Anonymous

Its funny 10 years ago I was one of those people
$hadow

Just a heads up for people using WINDOWS 7 Build xxxx (any), click in the compatibility button to be able to download the tittleshoot application, otherwise it will be scanning for the file for ever.

BTW, really good app :)
Rekrul

@Adam Fisk, #19;

“If they *don’t have LittleShoot* we automatically detect that and prompt for an install. Once it’s installed, though, these p2p links can just fly around with people one-clicking into browser-based p2p downloads. It basically takes about 3 or 4 major steps out of that process and lets links to torrents ultimately act like any other links, all handled right in the browser.”

That actually sounds like a bad idea for beginners. Because it makes downloading torrents like any other download, beginners won’t realize that they’re also uploading the files at the same time. They’ll visit a web site with torrent links to music files, download them, then get a notice in the mail that they’ve been caught distributing copyrighted material.

Another problem I see with the current version (based on what the article says, the web site isn’t loading right now) is that since there are no options, I’m assuming that the upload speed is either unlimited or automatically adjusted. Unlimited uploads will quickly kill the download speed. Automatical speed adjustment might be ok, but I’ve never had any luck with it myself. What invariably happens is that the “optimal” speed the program picks is too high and my download speed suffers.
Adam Fisk

@Rekrul Thanks for the feedback. The first issue I see with the scenario you’re describing is that users would be distributing copyrighted material, and I am being serious. LittleShoot’s targeting a world where torrent links are much more common and used for far more non-infringing content than they are today. I think the percentage of non-infringing content could grow very quickly. If that happens, it’s a whole new ball game and a much more interesting Internet.

The upload speed is current set at 32K. We’ll add the ability to adjust all sorts of things like that. You’re just not going to see any issues with performance and LittleShoot though — it’s super fast, all based on the very latest lib torrent core.

The site’s running on Google App Engine, so it should be handling the load without too much trouble. It’s loading great for me, but give a shout if you keep having problems, and I’ll see what’s up.
Anon

“The cookies don’t store any private data — heck we never collect any private data we could store — they’re just there for LittleShoot detection.”

“The site’s running on Google App Engine,”

Well there goes your privacy loooool
Bloatware

21 Mar 12, 2009 at 20:27 by Adam Fisk

“@18 Sure, if you really like copying and pasting =).”

Your plugin is not made with copy paste because you don’t like copying and pasting. You like to include the whole damn thing! What does limewire have that you can’t just copy paste from it? Why did you include full programs in your plugin? Why does the installer add your exe to startup? Why is a simple bittorrent plugin 25 mb?
Anonymous

@28

In the day and age that a typical download is ~4GB your question about plugin size is pretty damn silly. You’d think that BitTorrent, Inc. would have done this, wait sorry they are incompetent and can only buy software(µTorrent) and name it theirs, not develop it, oh and keep it closed source so that they still “own” the protocol. At any rate you need a runner application to perform the BT operations just like Joost used one, and BitTorrent DNA, etc, etc, because P2P setup is a much slower than single stream setup since you have many bilinear channels not one.
Adam Fisk

@27 OK, a couple of points. First “The site’s running on Google App Engine,”

Well there goes your privacy loooool.

You seem to be laughing really loudly out loud, as far as I can tell, is that right? LittleShoot collects zero data on you as a user. None. That means it doesn’t matter where the site runs, because there’s no data to store in any case. You should “looool” when you know what you’re talking about — sorry, but that’s just annoying.

The cookies literally store the version of LittleShoot and that’s it, allowing the site to know when it’s running.
Adam Fisk

@28 I don’t understand your copying and pasting questions, but I’ll answer the rest…

“Why does the installer add your exe to startup?”

It doesn’t.

“Why is a simple bittorrent plugin 25 mb?”

Because it’s far, far more than a “simple BitTorrent plugin.” First off, true plugins aren’t simple. FireFox extensions and such are simple. Real plugins (Flash, Quicktime, etc) are not — that’s why there are far fewer of them. LittleShoot, however, also, implements Gnutella as well as a standards-based p2p protocol including SIP, STUN, TURN, and ICE. So, yeah, there’s just a lot going on.

-Adam
Anonymous

“The cookies literally store the version of LittleShoot and that’s it, allowing the site to know when it’s running.”

As you are using the google application engine you are locked into the google mainframe and beyond what your Littleshoot application stores you have control over your users privacy
Anonymous

“The cookies literally store the version of LittleShoot and that’s it, allowing the site to know when it’s running.”

As you are using the google application engine you are locked into the google mainframe and beyond what your Littleshoot application stores you have [no] control over your users privacy
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Ken Lorne

I understand what has been stated about maintaining complete user privacy if this application is to be viewed as a standalone entity, but what the previous poster hinted about the implication of running within the google cloud/framework captured my imagination (perhaps it was supposed to!). It has been said that this applcation will give torrent links the same usability as web links, does this then mean that like web links, these torrent links will now have the capability and offer a resource for google user tracking/browsing habits and targeted ads etc within this framework?

I imagine the potential for ad revenue by including torrent links into their business model has not gone unnoticed, nor unexplored by google, is this application a small step in that direction? Perhaps they could strike a blanket agreement with related authorities allowing them to host torrent files linking to their related copyright upon yearly payment, similar to the agreement they have/had with copyright content hosted on you tube, after all, they came up in the Pirate Bay trial, and it was made known that they have been left alone by certain rights holders as they are co-operating/helping/in negotiations, is there a bigger picture to be viewed here?

As respected, credible and very experienced programmers/coders etc, and viewing it as such, the developers must be well aware of the consequences of locking this application inside the google framework, but as business men, and taking the perspective of viewing the complete model and monetary gain, is this exactly why the application is floating on a google cloud within their massive framework?, or have the developers not even considered this as a business, as if!

Any way, it is the application that is being reviewed/promoted here, and not their business model, and possible wider implications of google weighing up the price of a contract with rights holders against the ad revenue gained by these new torrent links appearing within their cloud, and under their control.
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Light Bulb

Hey I have a vision!!
google pay rights holder.
torrent sites like tpb host through google get ad revenue or user subscription.
Sites that dont get hunted taken down.
All torrents are legal and everyone happy, except user who want stuff for free.

Remember u read it here first, and if google r reading, me and other guy want money 4 idea!!
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Adam Fisk

@33 I think there’s a little bit of confusion here. We just don’t collect any user data ever that we could possibly store, and that’s really the end of the story, but I’ll go deeper.

Almost all companies (except the big boys like Google/Yahoo/Apple, etc) have servers that ultimately live somewhere else. Sure, in theory, the company running other place they live has control over the pipes coming in and out and could eavesdrop on anyone, but that a risk you take using the Internet ever.

It also helps, as I’m saying, if there’s nothing to see on those pipes anyway, even if anyone were to look!
ista

I had tested a previous version and the one thing that disturbed me a lot is that LittleShoot allows users to download from Gnutella, but by default it doesn’t give back i.e. share. That’s just pure leeching and I find it pretty unfair. By default, downloaded files should definitely be shared.
Adam Fisk

@ista All versions LittleShoot share anything they download from Gnutella by default, and they always have!

-Adam
Anon

@36
Yes but there is a big difference between using a company offering the similar sevices your application requires, and developing an application to run inside the google framework designed to record user data for the purposes of ad revenue, an application that for all intents and purposes could be considered by some as freely developed by you for google.

I can understand the advantages the google application engine would offer for a start-up application that is not going to expand outside known requirements, but as you say that your application is expected to be as popular and widwspread as the flash plug-in, your fees to google are likely to go through the roof, and as your application is locked into the google framework it will be extremely hard to move, if it is even possible without starting over, even then there may be rights issues. As you are a knowledgeble developer you must know this, so unless you have been extremely shortsighted why would you use the google application engine?, unless you are also a knowledgeable buisness man and have a deal to keep your fees capped, and been given the green light by google for the potential of the ad revenue your application will generate, as imagined by a previous poster.

You state that your application does not record any user information, but potentially what user information can be recorded about a user outside of your application process and ouside of your control when it is used within a framework controlled by google? It is not that any user information that could potentially be recorded will have legal consequences, and only be used for targeted ads etc, but if this is possible, I think it is irresponsible for you not to know, and misleading for you to suggest otherwise.
Name

Everyone buys into the GAE for scalability but the truth is if you have a bit of ambition, skills, etc you can setup a “real” infrastructure which you “own”, not Google and for a fraction of the cost.
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stevenaballmer

Will NOT work with IE!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com
FireTorrent User

I already do that with FireTorrent
(downloading torrents like regular downloads with just one click), an extension for firefox, that shows torrent downloads on the Firefox download manager.

Torrents just download like any other file, no need to install LittleShoot which sucks on your bandwidth because its also connected to gnutella.

Littleshoot is pretty much an external extension. It’s like an internal webserver that your browser talks to. They bound an IP to 127.0.0.1 and your browser talks to it.

I think it’s a lot simpler just installing a browser extension like FireTorrent.
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Adam Fisk

@40 For small startups, the key variable is time, not skills or ambition. I’ve been many server setups, including all sorts of clusters, but the time it takes to deploy on App Engine make it a no-brainer. It’s also tough to compete with free. Unless you’re building extremely popular sites (like top 1000 sites on the Internet), it’s tough to believe you can deploy a cheaper solution that works anywhere near as well.

-Adam
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ista

Regarding #38. Indeed Adam, I was wrong, LittleShoot doesn’t leech from Gnutella. Thanks for correcting my mistake :)
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Name

@43
thepratebay.com runs off the technology explained by 40 just explained so it’s not tough to believe. In other words a single person routes about 5% of all internet traffic through home built servers and infrastructure. This is throughly explained here: http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-how-to-dismantle-a-billion-dollar-industry-081030/
Anonymous

I’ve been thinking for a long time, sites should simply offer whatever files they have available for download as torrents, with the site as a dedicated seed, with other people that download the files getting to opt-in as seeders if they wish. I can see this getting us one step closer to true decentralisation of data, if it becomes a big thing.
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the guy

Warning!!! This software is the biggest P.O.S. that has ever been developed.
I benefit nothing from saying this.DO NOT DOWNLOAD.
If you don’t have “Little Snitch” try using it, you’ll see what i mean.
Bittorrent ask for permission to connect to I.P.s in your area or trackers. LittleShoot wants to allow Paypal to connect? Why?

Anyway. I know Macs fairly well. That being said, removing programs and files from my Mac is easy….BUT. With over 100 .jar files running for no reason with this program. it took 2 reboots to remove.

P2P. uTorrent, bittorent, transmission instead

Developers….clean up the trash….thanks anyway
Adam Fisk

@47 Ahhh…huh? LittleShoot doesn’t ever connect with PayPal for anything. Not sure if you’re running Ethereal or what, but I’d have a second look before firing off misinformation.

We have a lot of jars because LittleShoot is extremely modular, allowing developers to easily swap in new download algorithms for example – so there are a lot of very small jars. Many programs lump all of there code together (into one huge jar, for example), but that frequently makes the program far less flexible going forward, as everything is dependent on everything else.

To remove LittleShoot on a Mac, you can just delete

1) /Applications/LittleShoot
2) /Library/LittleShoot/LittleShootPlugin
3) /Library/Application Support/LittleShoot

Do you have other issues with it besides the difficulty uninstalling and the erroneous PayPal thing (again, we don’t connect to PayPal)? We’d love to hear your feedback if so, and we’ll likely just change it.

Thanks.

-Adam Fisk
Adam Fisk

@45 I’m not saying you can’t build an ad-hoc infrastructure that does everything you need to do cheaply. I’m saying you can build that ad-hoc infrastructure in 1 week and have it scale to 5 million page views for free. That’s what App Engine gives you. Sure, you pay incrementally after that (still not much), but the reduction in development time as well as the low-risk cost structure make it extremely attractive. The Pirate Bay guys have done a fantastic job scaling, but no one scales better than Google, sorry =). You can literally have a simple app up and running in 15 minutes that scales to 5 million page views without paying a penny.
Adam Fisk

@46 *Exactly* – that’s precisely what LittleShoot is getting at. I’d add one minor tweak — sites should offer and *big* files they have available as torrents. For small files, the added initial latency and minor savings make it not worth it. P2P should be the method for distributing large files on any site, period. The only reason it isn’t now is usability. You have to open up all these big bulky external clients every time you click a torrent.

I think that’s the direction things will head soon.
the guy

Pulling my hair out….deleting this for a second time.

The only thing i find this useful for is as a mass torrent and file search engine…the results appear but apparently only those with majors in rocket science prevail.

Sorry Adam, you seam like a nice well spoken guy…but this is just too difficult to figure out

perhaps you could post a ten minute walk-through video on youtube?

love the the idea, keep it up….but keep it simple. Cheers
Adam Fisk

@ista No worries at all. Keep in mind too that every line of code in LittleShoot is open source. We’re not some sketchy company trying to pull one over on anyone — just a group of coders trying to make some cool software.
Adam Fisk

@51 The instructional video idea is a good one, and we’ll likely get to that at some point. If you have any more specifics about what gave you problems, we can also just fix ‘em. Did you download the beta and not the older version? I definitely recommend the beta for everyone at this point, and it will go live sometime soon.

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