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MegaUpload Accuses ISP of Restricting Access To Its Services

Cyberlockers are the new fall guys for the entertainment industry it seems, as yet more news comes in of action being taken against MegaUpload, one of the largest one-click download sites. According to reports from users and the site itself, MegaUpload is being blocked or slowed down by Orange, one of the major ISPs in France. MegaUpload has publicly outed the ISP, that on its turn denies all accusations.

Cyberlockers are becoming increasingly popular and may have overtaken torrents as the file-share medium of choice. Of course, this hasn’t gone unnoticed by the entertainment industry who have labeled such sites as rogue piracy havens.

While RapidShare has gone on the offensive, describing claims in anti-piracy-funded studies as ‘defamation’, MegaUpload has been more direct. A few days ago the company responded to accusations the RIAA and MPAA made about the facilitation of copyright infringement, calling them “grotesquely overblown allegations.”

While all of this was going on a separate conflict was brewing in France, between MegaUpload and France Telecom, specifically the Orange subsidiary.

MegaUpload has claimed that Orange has been substantially slowing down, or blocking access to its servers. Presumably these actions were taken in an attempt to discourage people from using the service, a claim Orange denies.

Accusations and claims have been flying back and forth for the past few days, including a banner run by Megaupload this week which suggested that Orange subscribers call up and cancel their subscriptions, in favour of ISPs with better peering.

The full text is (translated from French)

Slow Downloads? Video playback is hesitant?
It is likely that your Internet provider is intentionally restricting your access to significant portions of the Internet! Our claims statistics show that most users who have this problem are accessing the Internet via France Telecom, often under the Orange brand (also “Ya” in Spain).

If you are concerned, please call Orange customer service on 3900 and tell them that you can not connect to sites hosted on Cogent and TATA. Also tell them that you are considering moving to an Internet provider with an excellent global connectivity, such as Iliad or SFR (free.fr, Alice). If you’re impatient and you need a good service immediately, consider changing your supplier for one of them, and be sure to tell Orange the reason for your decision to terminate your line!

In a telephone press conference last Thursday, Orange hit back at MegaUpload. The ISP stated that it follows the Net Neutrality rules as laid down by the communications regulation body ARCEP. Instead, the ISP argued that MegaUpload’s users are the victims of ‘a low-cost business model,’ where the cyberlocker signs cheap peering contracts that lead to the slow downloads.

Orange further noted that it takes no responsibility for the situation, and that MegaUpload should improve their infrastructure as other French ISP’s have had the same kinds of problems with MegaVideo/MegaUpload at times. They also added that although difficult, MegaUpload needs to find a balance between quality and economic performance.

While some might suggest it’s a battle between peering companies, there may well be more to it, which will bring the focus on ARCEP’s 4 month old net neutrality guidelines for France. It’s clear however, that this battle of wills is just heating up. Especially when (or if) the likes of HADOPI get involved, the new anti-piracy law which ironically doesn’t affect users of cyberlockers.

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  • Nemesis

    Lol, Piracy Havens. Wonder if they’re of any relation to the Sanctuary Cities in the US for illegals.

  • politux

    Does using a VPN solve the problem?

    • Alex

      It probably wouldn’t no, as you’re going through your connection still.

      If anything it would probably make it worse.

      • Anonymous

        WTF are you talking about? VPN acts like a proxy so your can’t see you are connecting to MegaUpload.

        • Anonymous

          [QUOTE]
          WTF are you talking about? VPN acts like a proxy so your can’t see you are connecting to MegaUpload.
          [/QUOTE]

          He’s right, the whole point of using a VPN is for you ISP not to see what the user is doing, in this way users can explore the internet uncensored, or with limitation from the VPN-host

      • gregf

        You should probably read up on how a vpn works.

    • nun

      Yes. This should work if the route to the VPN provider does not travel over Cogent or TATA.

  • Noimus

    Lol damn fuck MU. RS died, MU is gonna die, all HTTP will die.

    Private trackers ftw

    • neostyles

      Cyberlockers is the future and torrent is dead. Get a grip!

      • Wilson Andrew Bolton

        If that were the case, would we see a cyberlockerfreak.com?

    • brad

      Fuck private trackers. I don’t have time for internet drama and having to follow rules put in place by a bunch of kids. I’d rather pay 10 bucks a month and download as much shit as I want without being bothered.

      • SomeGuy

        Guess that depends on your monthly cap eh?

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  • Zc40

    Where is a good place to start on this medium of choice ?

  • noz

    Yes, using a VPN solves the problem.

    And few other french ISP had this problem for a very short time.
    For Orange, it’s been occurring for months, and also with Youtube and other streaming / DDL sites.

    In short, I’m French, and I’ll leave Orange as soon as I can, as will many others.
    Thanks to a new law modifying the “TVA” tax, we’ll be free in February, can’t wait!

    • Anonymous

      “Yes, using a VPN solves the problem.”

      Then Orange is completely lying, and they are slowing down and blocking access to Megaupload’s servers. I hope MU uses this as proof against them.

  • Acce

    The French with their Hadopi law and now they are slowing down cyber lockers…When will they learn that in the end, the user will always find a way around the problem. It’s one of the great human quality, we solve things! In the end, the French Gov’t and companies will only be hurting themselves. Long live french hackers!

  • Rboy

    Since connection to the internet is automated why can’t Isp’s be eliminated. If I could choose between any of 100 or 1000 or more to connect to too. You would simply change if the connection was too slow.

    What are now isp’s are simply local server farms. All internet infrastructure could be paid by an allocation of advertising revenue.

    Isp’s must currently pay icann something to hook up. Something has to pay for the top level internet structure.

    Anyway an ip under this scheme would be tied to a location not a person. A step towards anonimizing the internet.

    When i call someone unless I block the number it becomes public to whoever is the receiver yet no one says phone calls are public and can be monitored yet.

    Anyway this is just another example of the abuse of isp’s. But it seems like a business decision to me. Piss one group of users off so you can give more band with to another.

  • coffeebean

    what are other cyberlocker services ? and how can you find files held on 1 of those sites eg uploading.com as they dont provide a searchable list of what they host ?

    • yerp.

      you find blogs that specialize in the type of media you like. for english speakers rlslog.net and megarelease.net are my go-tos.

      also you search the site with google by typing “site:www.megaupload.com” after your search argument, like “beatles – sgt. peppers site:www.megaupload.com”. often the files have short cryptic names to avoid being easily filtered out when being uploaded though, so thats why the blogs are important.

      also nothing beats an old fasion google search like “californication .avi megaupload”

      • brad

        well, if you want even more efficient results, you could do “Californication.S04E02.Suicide.Solution.HDTV.XviD-FQM megaupload” :)

      • wewewew

        Beside MU, other popular hosts (since RS died) are:
        hotfile
        filesonic
        fileserve

        These three are the most popular now, well at least in my country. You have to find a forum dedicated to the topic. There are tons of such.

  • Jon

    Why don’t cyberlockers just install fingerprinting filters similar to Audible Magic on YouTube?

    Content creators could submit their work for fingerprinting to a third party company (like Audible Magic) and then the cyberlocker could automatically filter copyright content.

    Rar’s and zip’s would have to be unzipped to do this, but with CPU power as cheap as it is I don’t see why that would be difficult to automate. It would take less time to unzip and check the fingerprint than it does to download/upload most of these pirate files.

    The only piracy that would escape this approach is that that uses password protected or multi-part archives, both of which are the minority.

    I don’t see why this isn’t the norm. It wouldn’t be hard to implement at all.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      “It wouldn’t be hard to implement at all.”

      Only if you believe in magic. Here’s why that doesn’t work – fingerprinting a set work only tells you that this work is authentic. In order to filter works which are unauthentic (i.e. pirated or converted copies) you need to make a rule which states that no file without a fingerprint is legitimate.

      Which means you could no longer use a cyberlocker to backup your own hard drive, your family photographs, or anything else which did not carry a verified digital signature. You couldn’t even upload a text file containing a list of groceries without such a process.

      To summarize…what you are saying is blistering nonsense.

      • Jon

        Fingerprinting a set work only tells you that this work is authentic. In order to filter works which are unauthentic (i.e. pirated or converted copies) you need to make a rule which states that no file without a fingerprint is legitimate.

        Are you crazy? No you don’t have to make “all unprinted files illegal”.

        The copyright holder would at most have to sit down and submit the pirate copies of their product to the fingerprinting company.

        It would take a bit of work on their part, but after that it’s all automatic.

        In many cases, one fingerprint would take care of every pirate copy. For example, an e-book fingerprint just has to read random unique passages of the text to identify. It can do so across file formats and file versions.

        If you can see what it is, the fingerprint can see.

        The technology is already here. The will is not.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      The idea is complete nonsense from another standpoint as well – no, CPU power is NOT cheap enough to de-zip or de-rar all the traffic travelling to and from a cyberlocker. Even if it were, the bottleneck would still be one of disk transfer latency.

      In short, sure. Triple the amount of hardware processing the data and you might get there in a way. Which incidentally also means tripling the overhead. Any cyberlocker taking that approach will be rapidly outcompeted by one who doesn’t and can afford not to double or triple the bill it sends its customers.

      • Jon

        If that is their business model, it should be their responsibility to have the capacity to do their due diligence.

        Airports have to pay for screeners, xray machines, etc. FedEx pays for random package inspection. YouTube pays to check fingerprints for every minute of content uploaded.

        Rapidshare can pay for the hard drive space to handle all those terabytes of data, but they can’t add a few dozen (or hundred) quadcore CPU’s to do automated checks?

        Bull. More like they don’t want to.

    • Anonymous

      Filters are easily fooled by small changes in pitch and tone that you yourself can not hear.

  • From Jordan/ME

    I have 1Mb/s internet connection from Orange and i noticed the very same problem in the last week, Megaupload speed slows down drastically(5-10kB/s) between 12pm-12am and goes back to full speed (95-110kB/s) between 12am-12pm.
    With this article i can confirm who’s fault for this.

  • france the fascist ?

    it seems that France is taking a wrong turn lately. instead of liberty , fraternity and equality , it’s now corporation , money power .

  • anon

    @8 learn to google or use another search engine, watch where they are posed, etc

    • Magnus

      What was the point of your comment?
      If you can’t say anything useful then don’t bother.

    • dg100

      Coffeebean is looking for TF-readers’ recommendations, I think. Also, there are now reply buttons you can use – typing “@8″ on a new post is so yesterday. :D

  • Gargamel

    And this is exactly why CyberLockers suck. One target, one thing to screw with or take down. Simple and easy for anti-piracy outfits.

    I’ll pass :)

  • mu

    I’m accusing MegaUpload of restricting access to legitimate premium users by suspending them for no valid reason…!

  • jcs

    A lot of ignorance around here about cyberlockers vs. torrents. Maybe TF should do a comparison piece? Some things to note: torrents are ‘older’ methods and are commonly throttled compared to specific sites like megaupload; no uploading needed for ‘consumers’ of cyberlockers which is much more bandwidth-friendly, and ISPs severely limit users’ upload compared to their download making torrent seeding and leechers a pain; there are few uploaders of cyberlocker files and maintaining older files, torrents last much longer; anti-piracy outfits gather your IPs and get your ISP to cough up your details, but cyberlockers are a proxy, and as we see with MU and rapidshare, readily defend themselves against anti-piracy outfits since they already take anti-piracy measures (which brings me to…); links taken down are easily re-uploaded and mirrored across other cyberlockers. I’ll just stop here.

    • wewewew

      F**k bandwidth-friendly, as you have written – there is no need to upload stuff, thus (at least in my country) downloading from such sites is compeletly legal… We are forbidden to share, but allowed to download from a ‘friend’. So, by using Torrents, there is some risk, because if you are not uploading-you are not downoading. Here it is safe…

  • lol

    LOLZ, google needs to make sentiment analysis a huge search rank feature, as is it doesnt really matter how much we hate these assclowns, just wait till douchebaggery hurts sales (in a measurable way, theyre waaaaay to thick to correlate sentiment and sales themselves, plus too many yes men) then well see some change. as is, u just buy a few politicians, stick ur fingers in ur ears, and yell “LALALALALALALA” LOL

  • Pirat, DisConN

    hehe nzb’s 720p movies normaly fill 4 gig, witch for me is to much, but for games and music they’ll be perfect, btw my ISP dont care what i do they think “if we report him we lose money” have a nice day m8′s :D

  • Dumblo Meano

    Well you have to admit, it does make a lot of sense.

    being-anon.it.tc

  • Anonymous

    Fingerprinting work nice, when the content is known.
    Many place work around that by simply encrypting the file.

    That sound hard and all, but that is exactly what happend when you put a zip or rar password!

    Some already do it, so they can work legally. They take all the mesures they can against piracy lawise: they automated a process for finding known infriging content.

    Fortunatelly for us, uploading a .avi that get flagged would work by compressing it to .zip, when it get flagged compress to .rar. when it get flagged put a password. if it ever get flagged change the password…

    Some decompress the files to look inside, so they can say “we did everything we could”

    But they can’t decompress a file that they don’t know the password, so they are technically unable to do anything with it. Actually, it’s even illegal for them to try to figure out the password!

    That way, they follow the laws, while still being in business.

  • *blah!*

    Gotta love this. Yet another example of folks passing the buck instead of dealing with the problems their endusers face. Another group of Web 2.0 companies with sticks up their collective a*cough*es. You know nothing will ever get done about it.

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  • anon

    Found this online so if other services take this action, their services suck.

    From Mediafire: Report for Law Enforcement/FBI ? o.O »»??«« 10/12/30(Thu)

    Mediafire have reported my sharings to FBI, lol so probably all I have shared to the following hoster will get deleted in some time. :( I’m sorry.

    >> Anonymous 10/12/30

    Report for authorities/FBI or suchlike. Problem is nothing else in account can be downloaded. think it’s general on mediaf. Too ignorant to even send an email.

  • Em

    Same thing as #12 Jordan/ME but on UPC Romania. I’m more inclined to believe the ISP’s aren’t actually to blame but the bandwidth suppliers MU employs… maybe they restrict traffic to some of the ISP? Other services such as FF, FS (both), NL, and even HF seem to work all day at a constant rate, bt as well, the only one that gets throttled is MU. Really strange.

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  • Ninja

    Megaupload eats half of my 10mbit with the free downloads (1/4 of it on peak times and stuff like that). So yeah, it’s not slow considering the site itself limits my speed. Orange lies.

    In any case, ISPs that work with MAFIAA will probably limit cyberlockers since they can be “potentially used to infringe copyrights”.

    On a side note, all ppl in the world will have their vocal system cut because when they sing other ppl can hear and this is copyright infringement. Cheers.

  • Anonymous

    @22: no it’s not.

  • Anonymous

    For some reason the “Reply” link failed, @36 was supposed to be a reply to @22.

  • Striben

    I find it quite sad that you’re pushing industry propaganda words like “locker” and “piracy” rather than “file host” and “file sharing”. You’re standardizing them this way, you know that right?

  • james brown

    Thats why people should just get a server. Plenty of dedicated servers located here.

    http://pulsedmedia.com/clients/aff.php?aff=006

    as well as a good seedbox for only 10 euro a month, 115GB, 200MB ram, 100mbit connection, they have bigger and smaller ones too

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  • 9

    FTA: “Cyberlockers are becoming increasingly popular and may have overtaken torrents as the file-share medium of choice.”

    Umm yeeeah.. I’m just so sure that file hosts are now the most popular way to share.. Bittorrent has just now suddenly become obsolete..
    The piratebay was pretty cool while it lasted..
    Good bye torrents, you will always hold a special place in my heart..

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  • Guest

    Im having ultra slow downloads on Orange in the UK very recently but about 1 1/2 months ago i could max my connection on a free MU acc.

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