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Megaupload “Planted Evidence” Claim is an Unfounded Conspiracy Theory, U.S. Says

The Department of Justice has responded to Megaupload’s claims that they “planted” evidence and tried to mislead the court. According to United States Attorney Neil MacBride these allegations are “sensationalist rhetoric” and a “conspiracy theory.” The Government says it never asked Kim Dotcom’s file-hosting service to preserve any infringing files, and asks the court to deny Megaupload’s request to be heard on the matter.

megauploadEarly January Megaupload filed a motion claiming the U.S. Government deliberately misled the court.

When the U.S. Government applied for the search warrants against Megaupload last year it told the court that they had warned Megaupload in 2010 that it was hosting infringing files.

Through its hosting company Megaupload was informed about a criminal search warrant in an unrelated case where the Government requested information on 39 infringing files stored by the file-hosting service.

At the time Megaupload cooperated with this request and handed over details on the uploaders. The files were kept online as Megaupload believed it was not to touch any of the evidence. However, a year later this inaction is being used by the U.S. Government to claim that Megaupload was negligent, leaving out much of the context.

According to Megaupload this course of action was misleading and the company now wants to address the matter through a so-called Frank’s hearing.

However, in a new filing yesterday the U.S. Government asks the court to deny Megaupload’s request. According to United States Attorney Neil MacBride it would allow Megaupload to circumvent the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.

The United States Attorney further refutes Megaupload’s “planted evidence” allegations, saying that they’re an unfounded conspiracy theory, and certainly not enough to grant a hearing.

“Megaupload has supplied nothing but a conspiracy theory; this is not enough,” the U.S. writes.

“Because Megaupload’s claims are insufficient as a matter of law to authorize its intervention in this matter, Megaupload has wrapped them in layers of sensationalist rhetoric. However, Megaupload’s claims regarding government misconduct are unfounded.”

The Government argues that it never asked Megaupload to preserve any of files that were under investigation in the NinjaVideo case.

“The government made no preservation request, and the government is not aware that the service of a search warrant creates an obligation on the part of the recipient of a search warrant to preserve infringing content on a computer in a way that continues to make it available for illegal download.”

Megaupload’s argument that they didn’t want to disable access to the files, because this could alert the targets of the investigation, is also weak according to the U.S. – especially when Megaupload regularly disabled access to infringing links.

“If this [removing links] practice was common, it would not necessarily be alerting. Megaupload also, when removing infringing content, did not as a practice inform customers that their content had been removed. It is also unlikely that any Court would interpret a sealing order to require the continued distribution of infringing content,” the U.S. writes.

The U.S. basically says they did not specifically request that the files should remain intact, or be removed.

Dotcom’s lawyers may not contest this specific language, but find it misleading that the Government did not mention Megaupload’s full cooperation in the indictment or the search warrants. Instead, the U.S. uses the fact that the files were not deleted as an example of criminal behavior.

The U.S., however, believes that is was not necessary to provide the complete context.

“Megaupload’s theory that the government misled the Court by omitting a discussion of the June 24, 2010 search warrant misstates the relevant law. An affiant does not need to include every potentially relevant fact in a seizure warrant affidavit,” the U.S. writes.

The above, leads the Government to conclude that Megaupload should be denied a hearing on the matter.

However, United States Attorney Neil MacBride does not object to a Megaupload representative being heard as a witness in the hearing that’s scheduled for Megaupload user Kyle Goodwin, the reporter who is trying to gain access to his lost files.

“Though Megaupload’s claims are false, nothing prevents Kyle Goodwin from asserting them. If Mr. Goodwin wants to develop a factual basis for his claim, and the Court allows the live testimony, Mr. Goodwin could call a representative from Megaupload as a witness.”

The court now has to decide what action is appropriate here.

This upcoming decision may become crucial for the ongoing criminal proceedings. If the hearing is granted and the warrants are declared unlawful, as happened earlier in New Zealand, then Kim Dotcom and his fellow defendants will be at a significant advantage.

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  • nonamthanks

    Seems like a pretty sound argument. At best, Mega’s claims are potentially part of a defense that they would have to prove, not something to derail the case today.

    Goodwin’s case is very likely to fail as well, as the service provided by Mega was as-is where-is basis, and not an assured 100% backup of data.

    • anonymous

      it wasn’t Mega that took away the access to Goodwin’s files. it was a US DoJ raid that took place on NZ soil on a NZ resident’s property.

    • MadAsASnake

      Defense to what? They haven’t even served the company – and don’t appear to have a means of doing so. DOJ has to make the case (they have not) and serve (they cannot)

      Goodwin’s case will probably succeed. Those terms are between Goodwin and MegaUpload and cannot be relied upon by any third party, not even the DOJ. MegaUplaod has made it clear that it has the files and will happily provide them, but is being prevented from doing so by the DOJ.

  • sharms

    If history has taught us anything, it’s that nothing will stop the US Government from lying in order to infringe people’s freedoms. This is definitely a possibility.

    • anonymous

      ‘This is definitely a possibility.’

      this is definitely a definite!

      • Bill McGee

        definitely

        • One-Eyed Willie

          Absolutely!

        • Mopa

          GOHDDAEMRIYT!!

  • Anyone

    “it’s not true! but don’t listen to what they have to say about it”

  • Rekrul

    The US government clearly mislead the courts by not disclosing the full context of the situation. Especially if as was previously reported, they told the hosting company not to do anything to interfere with the investigation, and then refused to speak to Megaupload directly.

    Sadly, I don’t think it will make any different with the corrupt US courts. None of them will go against their corporate masters.

    • Rekrul

      …difference…

  • anonymous

    am i wrong or did i not read in one of the many articles over this case that there was evidence to back up Mega’s claims that Carpathia were told/asked by the DoJ to request that Mega let the files remain in place so as not to alert the uploader(s)? even though Mega may well have not been asked directly by the DoJ, anyone with half a brain knows that mega would have been charged with ‘interfering in a federal investigation’ had the files been deleted. now it’s coming to light and back to bite MacBride in the arse, (again!), he is throwing any shit he can think up to get the case to go the way he wants it. i very much doubt that this would have been raised as a matter of
    defence if it were not true. Rothkin is too canny a lawyer to leave
    himself wide open over something like this. the lengths the USA government and it’s reps are prepared to go to get the praise of their lords and masters, Hollywood and the entertainment industries! after this case eventually reaches it’s conclusion, one way or the other, it is going to be interesting to see the job MacBride gets from the industries for such ‘loyal service’. i bet it’ll be a good’un, considering the crap he is coming out with to try to win it!

    • Happy Man

      MacBride will have to wait a good few years before that’s going to happen. This case has already rounded 1 year. Look forward to another 3-4 years of, “I told you not to touch it” — “Actually you didn’t”. Each research, letter unturned, reply, defense structure, minutes, hours is making the lawyers behind all this really BUSY, but rich men. Only winners here are the Lawyers. Losers? Kim and the US & NZ Taxpayers.

    • MadAsASnake

      I read those mails too. The wording is at best a little ambiguous, but MegaUpload was asked not to do anything to alert the targets. MegaUpload also asked directly what it should do about the files and received no response. The circumstances don’t in any way shape or form prove a systematic disregard for DMCA, but rather a confused situation created by the authorities themselves.

      • icec0ld

        The fact they said “anything” should be all the wording a judge needs to hear that Megaupload, had effectively had its hands tied by a government investigation.

        The Argument DoJ provides is unraveled by the emails and the fact he claims that Megaupload takes down files all the time is complete crap.The investigation has said “don’t alert them” and the DoJ argues Megaupload should have been business as usual.

        It’s entrapment

  • Happy Man

    Fatman Dotcom should have sent himself a DMCA takedown request of the 39 LINKS to his dmca@megaupload.com from an Internet cafe in Turkey and thus the links would have been taken down “not to his knowledge”. If a counter-DMCA was issued by the US Government, this case would never have seen the lights of the day.

    All this looking in hindsight… Oh well. Good luck trying to throw a ball back and forth with the US Government. They will bend and interpret the laws as pleased. Ask Neil what a jolly-good fella he is for doing someone a favor.

    • MadAsASnake

      In hindsight, he should simply have refused to co-operate except on a direct basis.

      • Guest

        Yes, I agree with you that he should have directly dealt with the US government themselves and refused to deal with them through Carpathia.

        However the US government couldn’t deal with Megaupload direct because the US government say that they couldn’t because of jurisdiction and that they could only deal with Megaupload through Caprathia. If the US government couldn’t deal direct with Megaupload because of jurisdiction then i find that rather hypacrictical of them as the jurisdiction problem did not stop them from seizing and shutting down Megaupload.

        If Megaupload did not co-operate with the investigation I wouldn’t be surprised if the US government issued a search warrant to shutdown and seize Carpathias servers for the investigation and 1000′s of people would loose access to their data and how would Dotcom exclaim that disruption. Dotcom had no choice but to co-operate if the alternative not to do so was the shutdown and seizure of the servers at Carpathia.

  • Bobmail Preemptive

    You don’t get to choose the laws of the country you live in even though you don’t live in that country and Kim DotEvilKong will lose and you are all going to jail. Copyright holders have the right to bribe the government to sue whoever they want sued. It is needed for the greater protection of the religion of Copyright (hail).

    Devs without a real publisher should be imprisoned.

    I am totally encoded and nobody noticed.

    Thank you all for supporting my zealous righteous views.

    • Christopher Kidwell

      Great sarcasm of the real bobmail.

  • steve

    Does anyone actually believe anything the US authorities say anymore at this point?

    • The Guy

      Nope, considering they all suffer from Diarrhea-of-the-mouth syndrome.

      • TheOtherGuy

        Or rather DiaRIAA of the mouth.

        • The Guy

          Well put there.

        • Fubar

          wtf is your problem with Daria? She is awesome

        • 7th_Guest

          That thing whooshing past right above your head just now was not a meteor, in case you were wondering.

    • Guest

      I always assume the US government and any of its media mouthpieces are lying until irrefutably proven otherwise. If the US President said that gravity made things fall towards the ground, I’d wear extra-strength suction cup shoes wherever I went.

    • ???

      If you’re handsomely paid by a loaded sugar daddy, you’ll believe anything.

  • Whatever

    “However, in a new filing yesterday the U.S. Government asks the court to deny Megaupload’s request.”

    If the USA government has nothing to hide why would they want to deny any courtcase which might also clear them of any wrong doing ? It’s very obvious something is fishy.

    The bobmail level of logic/zealousness those prosecutors are capable of is amazing. They keep wasting more and more resources (and maybe increased damages paid) on a lost cause. The persons involved must have been bribed to keep continuing like that.

    It is the same with other bad government projects in progress. Politicians don’t listen to common sense, just close the ears and continue into the abyss because they have something personal to gain.

    • The Guy

      The part about them wanting the court to deny MU’s request for a hearing gives it all away.

      It’s censorship, they don’t want Kim and the team to keep fighting and want the court to ignore, or better yet, refuse to hear them out. Blocking a side from getting their justice shows that the US government is certainly lying about it all and are trying to make it to where they don’t have to fully explain themselves.

      That’s the kicker there, they obviously have something to hide.

  • http://profiles.google.com/pianogamer Knut Harald

    More joke arguments… the point of files as evidence was to show that Megaupload was NEGLIGENT… yet they show that megaupload WEREN’T NEGLIGENT, for keeping the files in their concern of FBI’s investigation. Whatever the legality of keeping the files was, THEIR ARGUMENT FAILS.

  • Max

    the america gov. says nothing but lies

    • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

      now that’s just not true and you know it…… apparently

      • JohnGaspardo

        if money or power is at the end of the rainbow there will always be buyers

    • marxmarv

      Not quite true, but they do believe their own bullshit, which is even more dangerous.

  • MadAsASnake

    “According to United States Attorney Neil MacBride it would allow Megaupload to circumvent the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.”

    Wonder how McBride feels about federal rules on serving defendants. Or does he feel that is not actually important? Wonder how he feels about providing the NZ courts with case material in support of the extradition that he requested, oh, I suppose NZ judicial rules are unimportant too, oh, how about seeing the charges? I suppose it makes perfect sense to keep the charges against someone “sealed”.

    I am also wondering what Procedural Rules are at stake here? Surely, that is an argument that they can make to a judge (and must surely loose given they cannot serve)?

    • Pedant

      *lose (not “loose”) ;)

  • Bananas

    fuk u americans, you who spread all the crap conspiracy theories around the world, now take a bit of your own poison

    • Bill McGee

      Its the the Americans you have problems with its the ‘Mericans.

    • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

      that’s not very nice,how would you feel if you were tainted with that kind of language in the Uk? uh?

      • fork you

        buddy, we’re tainted by association. doesn’t mean we don’t deserve it though.

        and by ‘we’ i mean the cnuts in charge who bend over for you yanks whenever you ask. and by ‘you’ i mean your corporate overlords and paid for politicians.

        i’m sure that individual folk on both sides of the atlantic are very nice people.

      • icec0ld

        Only Americans feel tainted by association because their government legal system and country is just so damned toxic.

        I don’t know if it’s the sheer level of patriotism or just a sign of the way Americans are indoctrinated into their culture of self worship.

        Not trying to be insulting. I just find is rather hilarious observing you call the UK “shit” and you’ll barely find anyone in or from the UK willing to refute it, but god help you if you dis America cause you must obviously hate everyone there on a personal level or something. That or Freedom! You HATE freedom you commie! :P

  • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

    mails have been deleted and documents carefully disposed of. nothing will stick and that’s that. there’s a fucking great lump, no, not KD, up there and it’s whizzing past the earth right now, maybe a chunk will fall off and land on HQ

  • riii

    I agree that the us government is fucked up but I don’t care about this megaupload crap anymore, megaupload was the shit, mega is shit.

  • anon

    MegaUpload legal team has already demonstrate to the world that the US gov has planted these evidences. It has been shown on this website more than a few time !!

    So, go fuck yourself US gov !!!

  • JerkfaceMcGee

    It sounds like entrapment because it is. How about this; you are informed by the ever so innocent DEA you have “drugs” somewhere in your house. They do not belong to you, rather, planted by criminals (or possibly the DEA agents themselves). You can either

    a) dispose of them (which would be tampering with
    b) take them (funny man, that would also be tampering)
    c) keep them and be charged with possession

    Morton, meet fork.

  • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

    Wasn’t this article already posted a few days/weeks ago, or am I time traveling again? Maybe it’s just similar to a previous one, I tend to skim the Kim Dotcom articles if they don’t seem to show any progress (in either direction).

  • Guest

    “nothing but a conspiracy theory” != lie

    USA Gov also denies 9/11 Inside Job by saying it’s a lie != conspiracy theory,

    • icec0ld

      Unlike the 9/11 conspiracy it wasn’t presented, created and proposed by complete morons.

      • Guest

        Keep lying to yourself or keep ignorant as you are afraid of the truth.

        • icec0ld

          If you’re talking about 9/11 conspiracies, I’ve seen and read em all. None of them make any sense or stand up to real scrutiny.

          “A missile was fired at the pentagon”
          “They collapsed the twin towers on purpose”
          “Over a million New Yorkers were paid to act out and stage the entire thing”

          I won’t argue Bush didn’t use the event to garner huge approval from the American public nor the fact that the war on terror took a turn for the worse and ended up culminating in the selective policing of the middle east.

          What I will argue is morons with no expertise, no access to real evidence and a complete and utter disregard for the plausible. The American Government couldn’t find it’s ass with both hands, let alone fake something as big, coordinated and outright sophisticated.

          There are two things in life certain. Death and taxes. The government is good at one of these and it’s about the only thing it’s actually good at. Guess which.

    • Gusset

      Definition of a theory:

      A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts… especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted.

      Definition of conspiracy:

      The action of plotting or conspiring.

      A ‘conspiracy theory’ is a best explanation of events based on observable facts suggesting the act of plotting by two or more people. The phrase doesn’t mean that something isn’t true, it actually means that it’s the most plausible explanation.

  • SCP-914

    And the government would know a lot about conspiracy theories, since they are usually at the center of them. Anyway, the government is full of people who lie and con people, so why should what they claim be taken as truth? I mean, Obama said he was going to extend broadband lines to rural communities and fix the deficit, but he hasn’t done either. If only we could keep the crooks out of office.

  • salvagesalvage

    Do they even have an endgame here? Dotcom is one of how many? Do they think the world is going to get less Internetty? This stuff makes prohibition look sane. But we should be grateful, the more governments put pressure on the Internet the more encryption and efforts to maintain privacy will be developed, it’s not a revolution so much as it is an evolution, which is much harder to stop.

    • nonamthanks

      The end game is to discredit the whole file locker system. They are trying to show in many ways that any knowledge of the content defeats the innocent host provisions that exist in DMCA in the US, and in other ways in other countries.

      They are actually trying to prove in legal terms something that is obvious to almost anyone. They are trying to prove that the file lockers are used by and large as a way to tranfer pirated material.

      If they can get one case to stick, especially this one, then they pretty much have it made. Any file locker with any knowledge of the content at all, or any file locker who is paying per download as per mega would be in serious trouble.

      It probably won’t work, but that appears to be the idea and end game.

      • salvagesalvage

        Yeah I get that and even if they prove such a silly thing (bus station lockers are used to hold drugs therefore all bus station lockers must be eliminated!) but all they’re doing is driving the practice deeper underground while promoting its use. Before the raid I had no idea who Dotcom was or the service his site provided now I and millions more do.

        Hell if the attack on Dotcom didn’t happen he’d probably arrange to make it happen, you can’t buy publicity like that.

      • MadAsASnake

        So Dropbox, Skydrive, and all these lockers are only used for infringing use? In your dreams… people use these for their own stuff. Online storage and backup is a large area, infringement is a minor issue.

        • Remaldi

          Can’t find any forum or blog post with public links to movies and games for Skydrive or Dropbox. And RS and MF links are very uncommon now, because the companies don’t like “those” and delete fast/hard.

          It takes one with google to find links to me.ga and equally quick was it with MU back then.

          There are different types of file lockers, cloud drives AND different types of people running them. Without judgment, just as a fact.

          It makes no sense to mix them to “win” an argument.

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  • Typhoid Mary

    If it wasn’t the American tax payers paying for all this, we might get more enjoyment out of it. I’m not a fan of Kim the Government or the Copyright Industry. Kim’s just the lesser of the three evils.

  • sickofUSA

    Whatever the US authorities say, it’s the opposite of that which is the truth.

  • Guest

    As a resident of NZ Dotcom is entitled to see the evidence against him. The NZ court has already ruled that the US must give fuller disclosure of the evidence of its case against Megaupload but so far the US has refused/not complied to do so but instead keeps on appealing this ruling and therefore pushes back the extradition hearing.

    If the US has a case against Megaupload then surely it would comply with the NZ court ruling and hand over fuller evidence of its case before the extradition hearing takes place and if the evidence proves the case in the extradition hearing then Dotcom will be extradited. By not complying with the court ruling in handing over fuller disclosure of its case against Megaupload shows that either there is no evidence to prove the case against Megaupload for extradition to occur or the US does not want extradition to occur and the request for extradition is just a smoke screen for something else. Surely if the US had the evidence it would have thrown the evidence in the NZ courts face and say here is the evidence requested now lets get the extradition hearing underway asap but the US are just simply delaying and stalling for some reason.

    The US blames Dotcom for the delays with this case and yet it is their very own actions by the US by appealing the NZ court rulings rather than complying with them and handing over fuller disclosure of evidenced as told do so that is pushing the extradition hearing further back. If the US wanted Dotcom extradited so desperately then they would have complied. Just shows by there own actions with delaying and stalling that their objection is not extradition.

  • hitch

    I can’t see a case here doesn’t a dmca mean you have to not make it available for download? and they just left it alone for people to download?

    • Christopher Kidwell

      It wasn’t a DMCA. It was an information that these people uploading those things were being investigated and to please leave the files up so as not to inform those people that the investigation was happening, even if they were DMCA’d.

      • Who

        then Y is MEGA getting hit with DMCA take downs? that country or even MEGA, isn’t even bound by it. btw the MU case was never really about copyright infringement. the US DOJ just added that crap so the MPAA/RIAA could go after him to.

        as fatboy has stated, its one big mess the US and its DMCA along with the RIAA and MPAA started.

        the BIG problem is he was nailed by both countries and even tho his country found him innocent the US and its illegal activity’s are still trying to per sue him for all this crap.

  • Traveller

    US has no credibility. Anyone with half brain knows the “conspiracy” is real and has a name: MAFIAA.

    • JohnGaspardo

      so like 1 out of every thousand and the rest being complacent stooges cheering as the fascists shred the bill of rights before our eyes at least what’s left of the old moldy rag called the Constitution

  • http://tiny.cc/Justp94 Justin T. Poindexter

    The U.S Government is it’s own Conspiracy theory.

  • Boohoo

    Latest news… God is an american says the administration.

  • infowars.com

    if a kid in school steals a meal or is a bully, is that not a thing for the teachers / parents to handle .. NO! it’s the US GOVERNMENT issue!!! ..

    did it really hurt the governemnt, don’t they have thing more importanto to solve .. I though it hurt the companies that stand for the producers, or the producers themselves, not the US GOVERNMENT ..

  • Guest

    “”The Government says it never asked Kim Dotcom’s file-hosting service
    to preserve any infringing files, and asks the court to deny
    Megaupload’s
    request to be heard on the matter.”"

    This is
    just a load of Bull crap and a smoke screen attempt to MISLEAD the court
    yet again by the government. The government did NOT directly deal with
    Megaupload because of the jurisdiction problem so the government
    deputized Carpathia to deal with Megaupload on their behalf therefore to
    deal with Megaupload to get around the jurisdiction. The government
    told Carpathia about the infringing files and to preserve those files
    and they in turn Megaupload at the REQUEST of the government.

    The
    government are now misleading the court yet again with covering up the
    fact that Megaupload was told about the investigation of the infringing
    files by them through Carpathia at their REQUEST.

    Megaupload sent
    emails to the government asking what to do with these files but the
    government did NOT respond to these files. Surely if the government
    wanted those files deleted they would have said so but they did not
    respond. If the government. These emails that Megaupload from Carpathia
    should prove that the government did inform Megaupload via Carpathia
    about the investigation of the infringing files. And anyway the government does not mention that they dealt with Megaupload through Carpathia if they did then they would blow themselves up and expose themselves over this Bull crap and misleading the court.

    If the
    government could not deal with Megaupload directly then this did not
    stop them with going out of their jurisdiction in shutting down the site
    did it. Contradiction by the government when it suits them.

  • Renob

    Usually when the government says it’s a lie, it’s really the truth.

    • JohnGaspardo

      and by usually you mean ALWAY’S right?

  • Trelew

    Of course the government is lying. They are just doing the bidding of their Big Business friends (masters?), this whole thing is a travesty of justice. The corporate powers-that-be are just looking for their next big win and scapegoat to use (abuse?). This will be very much like the PTB trial. A lot of BS and ego strutting, with a court decision made even before the opening arguments are done.

    In the end, we will see Big Business getting their way, regardless of the law. It will be used a reason for even more draconian laws being passed and enforced internationally. Insanely huge fines will be awarded to the corporations with little (if any) going towards the actual creators. The internet will become a shadow of itself as it becomes an expensive corporate playground.

  • screwtube

    never deal with americans
    never conduct business with americans
    americans will stab you in the back at the first opportunity
    problem solved, cases closed indefinitely

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