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Megaupload Publishes Deal to Counter U.S. Extortion Claims

Megaupload has responded to U.S. Government claims that the company tried to “extort” the Department of Justice by offering it a deal. A “perverse conception” according to Megaupload’s legal team, and to prove this point the attorneys published the agreement that was proposed to the authorities. In the email Megaupload offered to drop the service requirement dispute in exchange for access to the company’s assets.

megaLast month Megaupload filed a renewed request to dismiss the indictment against it, until the U.S. Government finds a way to properly serve the company.

Megaupload’s legal team reiterated that the company’s due process is at stake. The company has already been destroyed and is being held ransom by the U.S. Government, without any funds to establish a proper defense.

The U.S. Government sees things differently and has opposed such a dismissal. Among other things the DoJ accused Megaupload of using the Government’s failure to serve as a bargaining chip. The fact that Megaupload offered to let the dispute over the service requirement slide in exchange for a return of the company’s assets would harm the court, DoJ argued.

However, in a rebuttal filed last night Megaupload’s lawyers say that this is a “perverse conception” of the truth.

“According to the Government’s submission, Megaupload sought effectively to extort the Government by conditioning its waiver of service on ‘legal and financial considerations that would likely undermine the Court’s discovery and trial procedures and improperly dissipate restrained illicit proceeds.’,” Megaupload’s legal team argues.

“Here, the Government is disclosing to the Court the parties’ private settlement negotiations. What is worse, however, it is offering a distorted account of them that does not square with Megaupload’s actual, written offer that the Government neglects to provide.”

To give the court the opportunity to judge for themselves, Megaupload decided to publish a copy of the email they sent to the Government in May.

Megaupload’s lawyers argue that they don’t see the offered deal as extortion. On the contrary, they see it as a fair exchange where they would forgive the Government’s failure to serve in return for the companies assets, so Megaupload can mount a proper defense.

“Only by the Government’s perverse conception might Megaupload proceed on different terms—surrendering its obvious, unanswerable procedural objection under Rule 4 while exposing itself to numerous, complicated substantive charges as to which it has not a penny to fund substantive defense,” Megaupload’s attorneys write.

“Megaupload asked for nothing more than the practical ability to mount a full and fair substantive defense, in which event it would forgive the Government’s demonstrated procedural failings—and the Government not only rejected that offer out of hand, but now treats it as cause for condemnation.”

The rebuttal further responds to other claims by the Government and ultimately concludes that Megaupload should be dismissed from the indictment. It is now up to the judge to decide which party makes most sense.

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  • DutchGuest

    I swear, the U.S. is digging that hole they are in to such depths that if they aren’t careful, they’ll re-surface in the middle of the icy Russian territories.

    By god what a bunch of clowns.

    • ken147

      Waiting for “Soviet Russia” jokes…..

      • Acomerla

        In Soviet Russia, Dotcom is Skinny

        • NotSoFunny

          Bugs Bunny: Meh try again doc

      • Techanon

        In Soviet Russia, megaupload indicts the DoJ with criminal charges.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          No. Fail. That’s what it looks like in the US, not russia.

          And in typing that and realizing it’s actually true I’m beginning to wonder if we aren’t living in a giant Monty Python-skit.

      • Martin-glomb

        In Capitalist America money owns you.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        In soviet russia, you serve justice?

        • Schwartz

          Maybe not , but USA is the greedy monster , the nightmare of this world ! Now in Soviet Russia things are much good , people have more rights then in USA ,and indeed in USA only thing which matter is just fuckin piece of papper call MONEY – “the eye of evil” which give illusion of power – pure illusions which already destroy this world (people , nature, culture ,quality ,everithing …)

          Just look around , think and you will and realize the world decay and we are responsable for this , we accept to destroy for money , we are slaves for money, we buy and encourage production of junk things , we accept stupidity ,coruption , greed , polution manipulation and shits … so finally we deserve the fate more or less…

        • Yep

          U.S. is under a dictatorship.

        • Guest

          @Schwartz, you know Russia hasn’t been Soviet for 20 years…

    • JordanKratz

      I am a very big hater of my Government and have been most of my 56 year old life.
      And just when you thought it could not sink any lower it does.
      Just remember guys that there is and never has been an Empire that did not have a Rise to a Plateau to its inevitable Decline.
      See Rome, Greek History, The old French Empire, UK Empire, Russian Empire, Babylonia, Assyria, Egypt, and the list can go on and on.
      US Government your day will come as well.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Some say the US decided to skip civilization and head straight for decadence once out of barbarism.

        Me, I say that’s a bit misleading. When the US wrote that document called “we the people” they did have an understanding of civilized principle. It just went downhill quite fast after that…

        • JordanKratz

          But when you really think about our great Constitution it had a lot of good ideas but at the same time it was written.
          Blacks were Slaves for the most part.
          Native Americans were put down.Their Culture spit on.I am so glad that not one of my family lived in America while our great Government with the great Constitution screwed over the great and nice Native Americans.

          And the Constitution talked about everyone being Equal.And still everyone is not Equal in America.

          Yes it did go Downhill very quickly.Sad as the ideas of the Founding Fathers were really good Words.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          @JordanKratz

          It could be argued that the constitution was the spark which lit every civil rights movement in the US. Although a great many nations had abolished slavery in the world, very few nations did so when so much of the national industry relied on that trade.

          The problem mainly relies on the fact that although the constitution was sound and the constitutional court a stroke of genius, much of the government structure, enlightened for it’s day, quickly became a cumbersome rathole rife for exploitation.

          Then again you can say that about most countries…

      • YUMI

        Fully agree all Empires fail becouse of corruption , greed, absurdity, stupidity , paranoia ,wasting resources , is amaizing how illusion of power makes people blind , is amaizing how leaders and people dont learn or dont want to remember history mistakes to avoid them , so history repeat over and over – thats have a name – stupidity
        Im very shure , i can bet USA and all countries which have illusion of great powers will collapse , unfortunately for progress history repeat it is a wasting of time , finally maybe we – humans are a mistake of nature , becouse we as a species have great appetit for suicide , for destroy , we are the worst enemy of us – think about what you people doing day by day ask yourself and maybe if you have brain you will realize ,what you doing day by day is against your existence

        • JordanKratz

          I have said to my friends and on the Facebook Political Stuff I post that History is in fact doomed to Repeat itself.
          To Every Beginning there is an Ending.And then it all starts again and again and again………………….

        • Bob

          History doesn’t have to repeat itself. The founding fathers had to face some pretty dismal times and had to overcome some pretty formidable opposition. What the US needs to do is realize that they still have the power, they just need to take it away from the corrupt politicians and corporate powers that make the people think they can’t change their ways. It would be a lot of work, and like the founding fathers, there would be many obstacles to overcome. I believe that time is quickly nearing. The people are getting restless and are seeing beyond all the media to keep them in the dark.
          The other great cultures latest thousands of years, the US has only been in power for a few hundred. Imagine the greatness that could be done if they can recapture what made America great. I wish them luck, and truly hope it can, and will be done.

        • Damnimgettinold

          @ JordanKratz

          They said it in Battlestar. HAHAHAH

    • Gen. Eric Guy

      So far, they’re just digging their way back home. They’ve made decent progress so far in that regard.

    • ABU

      Im pretty sure the US gov has already dug itself through the earth and into outer space by now

    • Anonymous

      This isn’t the first case where US has punched someone in the face and gotten away with it. While NZ might struggle a bit, in the end they will bend over and do what is asked, should the thing escalate. Since it hasn’t done so yet, US simply doesn’t deem this important enough… yet.

    • Bananas

      they are desperate, they can privately deal in whatever way they want and it is actually well seen in the court , the court wants to get rid of as many disputes as they can

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    We should expect nothing else from the United Corporate States of Fascist America and it’s lapdog called the Department of so-called Justice.

    I’m also beginning to expect nothing fairer or more just from the USA’s own Courts either – and this is is now getting VERY worrisome my friends :(

    The USA appears to have reverted to a lawless Nation in which only the government and its agencies rule and interpret the law as they see fit to their own benefit.

    Doesn’t sound very “democratic” or a “Land of the Free” to me :(

    • thedude321

      I read the document. It does not sound like extortion, it sounds like a good deal to be honest. And even if it is extortion, I believe that the US government deserves a taste of its own medicine.

      • Jimbo

        so, as the government are turning down the deal, what does that tell you? i’d say they’re shitting themselves and it’s about time the court did what it is supposed to do instead of doing what the government tells it to do! they are, after all, supposed to represent justice and the law, not be bias or represent a particular view, regardless of who’s it is!

        • Guest

          I think the Judge should order the DOJ to go ahead with this deal. I am sure that the Judge would want to see a quick resolution to this whole case and if he knows that there is chance that NZ will refuse the extradition then the only way to overcome extradition is for Dotcom and defendants to volunteer to come to the US and what better way to get them over here is to cooperate with releasing funds so that they can mount a defense in exchange to waive extradition. If the Judge does not order the DOJ to go with the deal then this case may as well stay in stalemate with no chance of an resolution should extradition be refused.

        • Chris

          Well, the court is also the government.

          It seems fundamentally flawed to expect one government branch to act neutral when judging a private party against another branch of government such as the DOJ. The government pays the judge’s salary.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Basically Megaupload offered the DoJ a way out – “we won’t press charges against you over your illegal seizures. If you give the illegally seized data back, that is.”

        That’s not extortion, it’s the defendant offering the prosecutor a plea-bargain. And the prosecutor, flummoxed, has no good way of responding. If they take the deal they’ll be admitting to performing an illegal operation.

        If they don’t, they’ll get disemboweled for it in a trial.

        I swear, from a comedy perspective this is a gift that just keeps on giving…

      • ScrewEwe2

        The only ones doing any extortion are the DOJ, IMO.

        Noun: Extortion,
        1. An exorbitant charge
        2,a. Unjust exaction (as by the misuse of authority)
        “the extortion by dishonest officials of fees for performing their sworn duty”
        2,b. The unlawful taking of money by a public official under pretext of his or her office.
        3. The felonious act of extorting money (as by threats of violence)

        Verb: Extort,
        1. (crime) obtain through intimidation
        2. Obtain by coercion or intimidation
        “They extorted money from the executive by threatening to reveal his past to the company boss”
        3. Get or cause to become in a difficult or laborious manner

    • HustleHard

      Still no better place on earth to live! haha

  • nanoTomics

    The DOJ is just like a big dumb bully in a sandpit…

    Karma will bring justice, no doubt about that.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1825520569 Maciej Lisiewski

      They should drop “J” in the acronym.

      • Violated0

        Like they would be honest and call themselves the Department of Punishment.

        • TheyBeLiars

          Wouldn’t it be called the Department for Media Interests (DfIM)

        • Dim

          LOL just realsied it would better be if called the DIM. We could then say things like those DIM boys are at it again. When will those DIM boys learn.

  • Caladol1

    governments and the MAFIAA are in for some nasty surprises in the near future…..

  • GIJOE

    The US Govt is emptying Kim’s pockets slowly. How much do you think this legal bill will get settled at? They’re dragging this on for YEARS and guess who’s got the deepest pocket. Yes, you got that right.

    • Zack

      I thought that was always the plan.

    • Guest

      Just think that the money that will made from the new MEGA could if wanted to pay for Dotcoms laywers to keep his defence ongoing.

    • Anonymous

      ‘guess who’s got the deepest pocket’

      unfortunately, the government, but the bill is paid by the tax payer!

      • Gen. Eric Guy

        If only it wouldn’t bite us in the ass so bad in the long-run, I wish we could boycott paying our taxes as a united effort to stick it to them.

        Fucking double-edged swords.

    • MadAsASnake

      Clearly the plan DotCom isn’t standing for it. The courts will have to dismiss if the DOJ doesn’t either accept this deal (they won’t – it was never part of the plan for DotCom to have resources to defend himself), of serve DotCom himself as an alias, which gets them into all sorts of hot water. This offer was made to force the issue.

  • YenMooo

    Is anyone else getting tired of the almighty US playing World POlice? This is insane.

    u-anon.tk

  • Guest

    The DOJ are so digging a golf hole into a meteor creator and showing themselves up in the process if going to great lengths to hide the truth or distort the truth when it becomes out in the public in order to justify itself in order to win this case. Thank god the NZ law is seeing the truth in this case and making rulings to the truth in this on going case. Also it seems ok for the DOJ to make plea bargains to the people in cases to make them get a conviction in return for a lesser sentance but it is not ok for Megaupload make a bargain to the DOJ to say that they will come to the US to stand trial without the need of extradition in exchange for the funds to be given to them so that they can mount a proper defense. Megaupload was correct in stating that the DOJ refusal to unfreeze the funds in exchange to waive the extradition to co-operate in coming to the US and for the funds to be allowed to have a proper defence because the DOJ no that they will not win this case because they no that they don’t have a case. Next the DOJ will be throwing the kitchen sink into this case in order to win this case .

  • Guest

    The DOJ bargains with alleged criminals all the time. But if *Megaupload* wants to bargain, oh no, that makes them evil extortionists.

    Jesus Christ, the DOJ are such underhanded little clownshits.

    And they’re stupid as fuck, too. Their failure to serve Mega is a big deal. But Mega gave them the chance to make it go away… And they squandered it.

    They must like getting bit in the ass.

    • Guest

      Big golf clap in support of the above.

      If Dotcom had just said that he will willingly come to the US without the need of extradition in exchange for a fair hearing I would sure bet that the US government would have sent their fastest jet plane immediately to pick him up. But being as Dotcom included in the offer that he wanted his funds unfrozen to be able to mount a defense the DOJ panicked and refused to deal with his offer because they know that if he had this money then he will able to defend himself and exposure the DOJ and everyone else involved in this case against him and no way would they want to be exposed. The DOJ are now turning this offer against him and stating that it is extortion etc. Now that the shoe is on the foot with regards to making offers the DOJ throws a big nuclear hissy fit claiming it to be extortion. The DOJ etc. will surely get whats due to them I hope.

      • MadAsASnake

        He pretty much did that. A trial of this magnitude where the defendant is prevented from using counsel of choice is not a fair trial.

  • FuzzyDuck

    The US government is pure evil. There’s nothing else I can make of this.

  • Freedom?

    Not until they fear the people on the street….

    • Guest

      That will never happen. I bet you know your fellow Americans better than I do.

      Well, it might happen if someone stops all TV stations from broadcasting and creates an true secular government.

      • ForestSilverwood

        I’d vote for replacing all free over-the-air TV with free internet Wi-Fi.

  • Anonymous

    the DoJ is not going to drop any of the charges and is going to do it’s utmost to prevent Mega from being able to defend itself. the DoJ is refusing to admit it has made a monumental fuck up of the whole issue, turning even the US over-broad interpretation of their own laws into a complete farce. i am waiting to see how much longer they can continue to blind-side the courts with these tactics and blame everyone else for the screw-ups, whilst also preventing all legal files from being recovered as well. sooner or later, they will find themselves well and truly fucked by the court and forced to give much more information out than has been asked for up til now. that will be interesting as those that instigated the whole thing will be made public, showing not just those involved in the case, or the US public who is pulling the US law enforcement and ultimately the US governments strings, but the whole world will know. that is worth watching for!

    • Guest

      Thank god that the court in NZ is seeing the truth in the whole of this charade by the US.

  • Violated0

    I am just wondering if there there will be any days ahead where the DoJ actually says something that sounds valid. They really seem to be grasping at straws these days and will say almost anything to attack Mega with. It is really a sorry state of affairs that this is the best the US Government can achieve without dropping bombs.

    So here we are awaiting the day when some Judge gets up enough nerve to start shutting this case down where other Judges would then soon follow. Currently they continue on in the hope that the DoJ actually has something valid up their sleeves that can led to a possible conviction.

    Well it is true to say that the DoJ has not yet served Mega which also means they don’t have a case against them until they do. Mega not being in the USA means they cannot be served which is a problem the Judge has soon to rule on.

    Then who can say if Kim Dotcom and friends will be extradited from NZ. The Government there have committed so many unlawful acts that you do seriously need to question if they are get a valid trail. The US is simply out to destroy Mega and the big question is… Will the Justice system allow them?

    • Anonymous

      it’s not the justice system that will allow anyone to destroy Mega, it’s the one throwing the most $ at the judge and whether he will do as he should or do as is best for his piggy bank

  • Dondilly

    Talk about twisted. Mega is effectively willing to waive the fact the DOJ has no jurisdiction over it on condition company funds are returned to enable a fair trial. I believe KDC also stipulated bail should be granted.

    Another due process right the DoJ is witholding full access to the server data for the purpose of mounting a defense. By rights the DoJ has to grant full disclosure of the evidence, not just the small portions they cherry pick for their own distorted purpose. If that means having to clone every drive on over 1000 servers, so be it.

    Finally, I am gobsmacked at any judge allowing pretrial (in Mega’s case pre charge) negotiations to be admissable in court. While plea bargaining is rightfully not allowed in the Uk, though a judge will take into account a guilty plea when sentencing. Any pretrial negotiations about charges in a criminal case or setlement in a civil are done ‘without prejudice’ and are inadmissible.

  • Kmaid

    I wonder if MegaUpload will be able to sue for the loss of their business and earnings? It would be entertaining. I be supporting ME.GA

  • Colin Carr

    I think the nearest Kim will get to justice is for the NZ court to refuse to extradite him, and for MEGA & Megabox to grow to be big & profitable while syphoning artists away from the MAFIAA.
    He could then I suppose have a comments section on MEGA to air his views on the MAFIAA, Biden etc and invite them to sue him for libel in New Zealand.

  • Pixie

    I don’t know If Megaupload is going to sue them for the loss of their business and earnings but I would sue them for the PERSONAL harm which is againts all kinds of human rights they gave to families and children of those 7 innocent people…….

  • Hogspace

    But, as we have noted before, none of this matters. It’s all fluff and bluster. Due Process and Rule of Law have already been overturned in this case. The copyright lobby, the Judiciary and the Politicians (bought and paid for) will have their way.
    The public doesn’t care enough to raise a stink and the liberal media are part of the copyright industry. It’s a perfect storm.

    • Guest

      It seems that the NZ court are adhering to due process of law judging by the rulings of illegal action that they have found so far with this case even if the US can’t

      • Hogspace

        Kind of. I don’t see anyone arrested, suspended or in jail for it. See what I mean? there would be more ramifications for calling someone Nigger in an Auckland street.

        • ScrewEwe2

          I wonder what the ramifications would be for calling someone an Auckland in a Niger street?

    • ScrewEwe2

      Most of the general public has never even heard of Megaupload or Kim.com, and if asked, they would likely assume Kim.com is a website.

      • Violated0

        I would find that surprising seeing that every development in this MegaUpload case is soon voiced on thousands of very varied news sites and forums all around out planet.

        It is a gripping case of Government injustice and bullying with twists and turns and unlawful acts. From my quick Google check then around 198,000 pages carried news on the new me.ga site this past week and then around 292,000 pages mentioned MegaUpload within the past day.

        Sure many people won’t know because they don’t read such news in general but many millions of people sure do.

  • Who

    LOL nothing but bribery and pay off”s. corrupt government/judicial system.

  • Just Curious

    BOOOOOORING… Who cares.. Publish something new… if you have it!

    • 7th_Guest

      We’re sorry, but we’re fresh out of celebrity gossip news from the set of the latest Twilight movie, if that’s what you’re looking for. Have you tried TMZ perhaps?

  • OccamsKatana

    Maybe, just maybe, with enough votes in the right direction, Obama will be voted out and we can all politely ask the NEW President to take a look at the corruption in-house and clean up the last administrations mess. Resubmit all those White House petitions looking into Biden-Dodd that were denied!! Ask the new pres to stick his nose into the whole affair and push the courts to make a fair and honest ruling.

    Ok, so it makes for a good Disney movie plot.

    If you’re a US citizen, vote for CHANGE. The clown in office is as corrupt as they come.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Romney would be 1000 times worse. Enough said. Obama 2012 for a second term and Democrats for the next 100 years so that we can fix the problems caused by trickle down, removal of necessary regulations, etc.

      • OccamsKatana

        Ya think anyone can be worse than what is in now? I don’t want to drag out political opinions, but Biden is bed buddies with Dodd. We need another war. A war against corrupt politicians. Oh, I think they call it a revolution, but, USA being the land of the free, citizens are only allowed to be as free as they are told. Don’t you dare protest……. Let alone revolt…… *gasp*

        • MadAsASnake

          Bush – Cheney was much worse…

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          You are only looking at piracy concerns here. We Americans have to look at regulations, economic beliefs, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

          When you take into account that other stuff, Obama/Biden are the lesser of two evils and they are a minor good on most issues.

      • Guest

        And expect more s**t to come from the Hollywood MAFFIA as they pile on pressure to Obama and the Government to bow down and lick their boots to do their bidding with doing there part of the agreement with keeping them in the government thanks to the billions spent by there lords and masters of the Hollywood MAFFIA.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          And again, like they wouldn’t do that or try to do that with Romney? Living in a dream world.

      • OccamsKatana

        For the record, I’m NOT American. I am their more northerly oppressed neighbour.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Fair enough as long as you aren’t from Quebec. 8)

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      The only reason to vote for unincumbent sock puppet would be because he takes his orders from another part of the private sector.

      If there’s anything I truly detest about politics it’s the way the two main players try to make it look like they are marginally less offensive than the opposition and that there are no alternatives.

      I think the US needs more alternatives.

      • OccamsKatana

        I absolutely agree. This two party thing really sucks. Here in Canada, when a party loses in the federal elections, they disband the party and call it something else cuz they are sooooo ashamed. LOL! and Nope, not from Quebec.

        We really do need to shake the foundations! They have made themselves pretty much untouchable. The US prides itself on breaking away from Britain. Declaring independence…. can we declare independence from the US?

      • MAKE IT STOP

        God dammit. ENOUGH with the lesser of two evils bullshit. Vote for Liberty. Vote Green. Vote with your heart, and stop buying into the rigged system that feeds you crooked candidate after crooked candidate.

  • Anon

    The internet is brought to us by industry and administered by government. The more you try to subvert time tested and very fair one price-one possession business models, the more they will do whatever they want to suffocate you. They are achieving this because only a small handful of pirates even care enough to make comment. On TF no less. lol Great strategy. Call them fascists on TF while they put DotCom in jail. You are SO effective.

    If you really want to break the law online you’d better get your pitchforks and torches ready. lol

    • Fredrika

      > “The internet is brought to us by industry..”

      You mean successful entrepreneurs, unlike the incompetent industry that the con artist collective Mafiaa tries to protect?

      > “..and administered by government.”

      It is not. Please stop lying.

      > “The more you try to subvert time tested and very fair one price-one possession business models..”

      Are you saying that you find the free market to be unfair? Usually business models that are based on legislative monopolies constitutes the text book definition of unfair, because competition is forbidden. But communists have another opinion on that i guess.

      > “..the more they will do whatever they want to suffocate you.”

      Which is completely irrelevant for the next generation filesharing protocols, which the government can’t do anything about, a fact that you never dare to comment on.

      > “They are achieving this because only a small handful of pirates even care enough to make comment. On TF no less. lol Great strategy.”

      There are several hundreds of millions of pirates around the world that fileshare illegally without problems, and their numbers is growing every day, and pretty soon they will all be untouchable. Suffocation will then be impossible.

      > “Call them fascists on TF while they put DotCom in jail. You are SO effective.”

      Unlike you and the con artist collective Maffia, pirates can do several things at once, and in addition to everything else they are doing, such as making pirates untouchable, they have started political parties around the world, that have already had pirates elected into governing offices in many countries, and they already have infiltrated and started to control the IP issues in the worlds strongest economy, where the only growing political assembly group now advocates legalised filesharing, thanks to the pirates.

      Effective? Most definitely, unlike the con artist collective Maffia, who’s effectiveness on piracy is zero, absolutely zero. They can’t do anything to stop it, and their ineffectiveness has started to be discovered by the fools that pay their bills, so they’ve started to cut down on funding.

      > “If you really want to break the law online you’d better get your pitchforks and torches ready. lol”

      No need, one can just move on to the next generation filesharing protocols, they are already fully functioning, and completely untouchable, both technically and legislatively. But you haven’t got the gut’s to comment on that fact, now do you? Afraid i guess? Busy dreaming about imaginary property, tooth fairies, Santa Claus and other things that don’t really exist?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZD4NGSQBUC4AL2A67BCGKHBNWE AKP666

        No, it is simple. You can’t use Copyright laws to micromanage what someone does with their own legal property. Copyright Laws overturn property rights and in fact legally return ownership to the Copyright holder. How exactly is that legal? Property is stolen by the US government to be handed over back to the Copyright holder? They retain rights to the original, but the copy that I possess, purchased outright with my hard earned money, is mine to do with as I wish. It’s one thing if we were stealing their copies of films and distributing them, but we are not doing that. We are distributing our own property.

    • Guest

      You’re just mad that the DoJ can’t get away with all the significant oversights and fuck-ups they’ve had ever since the decision was made to SWAT-team someone for filesharing, of all things. Not drug-dealing, not terrorism, not torture – but filesharing.

      Way to prioritise, you psychopath. I’d agree with you that pirates are breaking less law over the last decade as you claimed – copyright holders on the other hand have taken every single possible opportunity to inflict reckless collateral damage.

    • Guest

      Yo Anon, please explain how Kim Dotcom is going to jail when the DOJ’s case against him is possibly the most bungled fuckup in their entire history.

      “If you really want to break the law online you’d better get your pitchforks and torches ready.”

      Done and done, bro.

  • MadAsASnake

    I suspect the judge is very soon going to be forced to dismiss on Procedural Rule 4. It’s pretty straightforward. DotCom has made an intelligent offer to break a deadlock of DOJ’s own making. If DOJ won’t / can’t serve, and won’t accept a reasonable offer to move forward, it is difficult to see what else to expect.

    • Guest

      I am guessing that the Judge will wait until the outcome of the extradition hearing before he decides to dismiss the case or not. If the extradition is refused then he may rule to dismiss the case against Megaupload unless the DOJ can find a way to serve Dotcom as an alias of the company should he step foot on US soil if not then the case will be a complete deadlock and stalemate if Dotcom does not set foot on US soil. If there is an extradition then the Judge will have no need to dismiss the case as Dotcom and co. will have no choice but to be extradited to the US to face trial unless of course there is an appeal and Dotcom and co. wins on the appeal. It would of course be foolish for the US Judge to dismiss the case when there is still very much chance that an extradition will take place. I hope that the extradition will be refused.

      • Violated0

        I doubt the US Judge would link to the NZ extradition case. If the case is to be dismissed then this fact alone will cause the NZ extradition to fail when they would then have no case to answer to.

        Should the reverse be true and US case goes forward while the NZ extradition is denied then you do have a deadlock. Their assets would still be seized and with no extradition due they would try to recover them. At the same time the DoJ would skip the NZ Justice system and to appeal to the NZ Government directly to try grant extradition still which would be unlikely.

        Since no trial would be possible without the Mega groups approval then most assets should be recovered while the US vents its wrath on their continuing operation.

        • Colin Carr

          “At the same time the DoJ would skip the NZ Justice system and appeal to the NZ Government directly to try grant extradition still which would be unlikely.”

          If the NZ court refuses to extradite KDC, then the NZ gov.t cannot overrule their decision.

          However, if the extradition fails, KDC still has to think VERY carefully before travelling outside NZ. I’m sure the FSA* would love to have him arrested and extradited, or kidnapped and extraordinarily rendered, from some other country.

          * FSA Fascist States of America

        • Guest

          @Colin Carr, If extradition is refused I am sure that the US authorities will quickly issue an international arrest warrant for Dotcom and accused and that all assets seized and frozen by the US government will forever remain seized and frozen pending the outcome of any future court case trial in the US.

  • Guest

    If property rights are lost when something is stored on a server according to the DOJ’s argument against Mr Goodwin in order to prevent Mr Goodwin from getting his files back from Megaupload then the MPAA have no grounds to sue for copyright infringement against Megaupload or anyone else who has files stored on servers as all files according to the DOJ’s argument have lost all property rights so even the case of copyright infringement is lost also.

  • NaziAmerica

    Welcome to the Unstable States of Assholes, where the rich companies can buy a president, and laws at will.

    • Hiya_tiger

      “Welcome to the Unstable States of Assholes, where the rich companies can buy Congress & the Senate, and laws at will.”

      Fixed, the White House & the Obama administration think of us as insignificant.

  • Jenn

    Fuck the Govt. Why aren’t't they spending time/money going after THE BANKING CROOKS that are committing fraud everyday and really affecting Americans’ lives!? Oh yeah, they”re in on it…

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