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Megaupload Search Warrants Ruled Illegal by High Court

The search warrants used by police to raid the New Zealand home of Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom have been ruled illegal. In addition, the data that was sent to the FBI was ruled to be unlawfully obtained. The decision by the High Court is the latest in a series of setbacks for prosecutors on both sides of the Pacific. Could this be the beginning of the end for the Megaupload trial?

A case that seemed, just 5 months ago, to be a veritable David and Goliath fight is certainly living up to its billing.

The battle between Megaupload (David) and the US Government and the MPAA (Goliath) started out with a flurry of blows against the New Zealand based site staff, but in recent weeks the blows have all been falling stateside.

Today, the New Zealand High Court ruled that the search warrants used to raid Dotcom’s mansion were illegal, casting uncertainty over the entire ‘Mega Conspiracy’ case.

An earlier ruling by High Court Justice Judith Potter concluded that a previous search and seizure order was invalid because of improper paperwork. The documents were later corrected.

In the ruling, Chief Justice Helen Winkelmann declared the warrants illegal, noting that they were not adequately descriptive of the offenses Dotcom was accused of.

“Indeed they fell well short of that. They were general warrants, and as such, are invalid,” she said.

In addition, the data removed from New Zealand by the FBI (which they claim was ‘not stolen’, since it was ‘only data’) was also ruled to be illegally obtained, and should not have been taken out the country.

“…the release of cloned hard drives to the FBI for shipping to the United States was contrary to the February 16 direction under section 49 (2) of the MACMA [Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters Act] that the items seized were to remain in custody and control of the Commissioner of Police. This dealing with the cloned hard drives was therefore in breach of s49(3) of the MACMA.”

Winkelmann also voiced concerns over police conduct, questioning if their actions in January amounted to unreasonable search and seizure, with a preliminary view that they did. Along with these concerns came a note that the raid could be considered trespass by the police, not something the elite anti-terrorist team used for the raid will want on their record.

Perhaps the biggest setback for any prosecution relates to what evidence was collected. An independent, and appropriately experienced High Court lawyer will now conduct a review of the evidence to determine what is and is not relevant to the charges Dotcom faces.

Anything deemed not relevant will be returned to Dotcom, and not provided to the US. Anything deemed relevant will be copied to both Dotcom and US authorities for use in court.

While the ruling does not amount to the unequivocal quashing of the search warrants and the invalidation of any evidence collected through them, it is a significant win for Dotcom. Meanwhile a request for the cloned hard drives to be returned (presumably without being copied) has been made to US authorities. The amount of respect for the New Zealand legal system held by US authorities may be inferred by the time it takes to comply with the request.

As for the extradition hearing? That’s still going ahead.

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  • MEGA-Joint

    HELL YES !!!

    • yello

      sure, it may have all been illegal. 
      But the U.S. c$nts still got exactly what they wanted….

      • Vincent Giannell

         Not for long they won’t.

        • thedude321

          Exactly. Finally, the truth prevails! :D

          Kick Ass MU~~ ! XD

        • Dinga Dong

          Of course – if NZ wants the hard drives back uncopied, the FBI delete all copies before returning the data… Yeah, right!

        • Qwertywww22

           The US got exactly what they wanted: they destroyed megauploads business, even if the methods used by them were illegal they were never be held accountable.

        • Qwertywww22

           The US got exactly what they wanted: they destroyed megauploads business, even if the methods used by them were illegal they were never be held accountable.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Temporarily, Qwerty. T E M P O R A R I L Y in the extreme.

        • Guest

          For anyone who believes that “the US got exactly what they wanted: they destroyed megauploads
          business, even if the methods used by them were illegal they were never
          be held accountable.” Megaupload WILL win the case that it is dealing with and then they WILL be back BIGGER, STRONGER then they were before being taken by the US government and therefore the US government would have FAILED in the attempt that it did.

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        • http://2.gp/p7Nu Jennifer E. Holbert

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        • Lia P

          This whole thing is such a drama..
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        • MegaLOL

          I’ve seen a lot of folks say they’ll happily go back to using Megaupload should they ever come back online. I certainly would. I’d also be very interested in using MegaMusic, MegaTV, and MegaMovie too as both a consumer and an artist. I hope they look at these and similar prospects down the road because they’re good ideas, especially if artists can profit from them instead of the middle men whom have traditionally taken the lions share of any and all profits. I truly believe fear of perfectly legal competition was the real motivation behind everything the police did, all at the behest of those same middle men in the entertainment industry. When you consider the connection between that industry and the attorney general whom started all of this, it’s hard not to see how things will end badly for the US government. A text book case of corruption if ever there was. It will also be interesting to see what the US does regarding those copies too and how long it takes them to act. It will surely be a good indicator of how much respect they have for another sovereign nation. I predict they’ll give NZ the middle finger by keeping the copies and release a pubic statement that isn’t factual in the slightest as to why they’re justified in doing so.

      • Violated0

        I just hope all those other cyberlockers can now see how invalid the US bullying of the market is and to have better faith to give the US authorities the middle finger while doing business as usual.

        • OccamsKatana

          Problem is, enough middle fingers in the wrong face and you’re dodging bullets. The US doesn’t play fair by any means, and if they have to go Osama Bin Laden on yer ass, they will…… 

          But like I have said in other posts, when the rest of the world stands up against them together, they’ll suddenly realize how all alone they really are. You might be the toughest kid on the playground, but ya can’t beat them all together.

          What about when all this crap is dismissed with prejudice, and Dotcom counters with his very own lawsuit for damages…..  I’d hate to get that bill!  BUT, who pays for that? The US taxpayers. So, US taxpayers, demand transparency and a accountability from your elected officials!!!  It’s YYYYYYOURRRRR money!

      • roadkill

        What did they want? Unless there’s some secret conspiracy behind this they didn’t get s**t.

        • Neil

           His business is screwed – that’s what they wanted – it’s gonna take ages for him to get his client base and income back to where it was…

        • Armada

          They wanted to get the MegaUpload website down and do as much damage to prevent it from going up again. And that is exactly what happened.

        • Psycho

          Armada, you obviously haven been folowing kimdotcom in twitter. The thing the US most wanted to stop with all this bullsh*it was megabox and kim say that megabox is still up and going and will start very soon. So the US just got owned lol

        • Anon

          @b526b181878fdd1efb68ef2be86f143f:disqus  dude, last december 2011 (a month before the raid) do you remember what megaupload was about to release? The MegaBox project. long short story, it’s a publisher for artists that takes only 10% of the whole profit made. 

          Think about the % that MPAA/RIAA takes from our artists…

          Think about how bad it could have hurt their whole market.

          They had the power,politicians and money in their pocket, they easily took out MU from the map…

          Let’s just hope that it will come back alive, I dream about it.

        • Gia

          They actually got him and his business so they didn’t exactly “lose”..
          New Movie Releases

      • anon

         he should sue them for compensation, even if that would be just “4lulz”

        • Chuck

          Agreed, but the problem is.. We (the people of the U.S.) will be paying for it… :(

        • Guest

          @Chuck Your happy for them to continue like this then? Pay now and teach them a lesson. I hope Kim gets to claim loss of earnings for the last 5 months for a company which had very strong growth. Add on top compensation for the trauma to his family and staff during his arrest. This won’t happen of course, but it should.

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      • Ganster

        I wonder how illegal it would be to kill Chris Dode and Karie Chairman.

        Any way It would not matter because we will still get what we want.

      • blah

        US maybe a c$nt but 
        New Zealand are bigger c$nts.  If they weren’t such wusses they would of said NO to the raid.  
        Dotcom would be ok and safe.  But no since New Zealand sux on US left nut they allowed it to happen.  Another country I have no respect for Thanks New Zealand for being a c$nt and bowing down to the greater power :P

        • http://twitter.com/nzcode Jarrod Mosen

          Yes, harming their relations with one of the world’s premier superpowers would be a great idea! I’m glad that you thought this through…

      • pufupufu64

        don’ think so!!! the FBI think they can walk into some other country thinking they can do what they want???? no fucken way!! this is NZ we have our own justice system… we gonna sue them big time!!!!!!!

        • blah

          You ain’t going to sue nothing and guess what they did just walk into NZ and do what ever they wanted.  NZ bows to US

        • fuamiki78

          fuk the FBI…and the AMERICANS

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    • Emily

      hell is a terrible place, why not “Heaven yes” ?

      • OccamsKatana

         Cuz in the immortal words of Bon Scott: Hell ain’t a bad place to be! LOL!

    • Singer

       Megaupload will almost certainly come back. However that would be the least of the entertainment industry worry. Although it is still not clear if Mega-upload take business away from the entertainment industry  Megabox certainly will by sucking up most of  the artists from the industry.

      Hey! with Megabox I do the music and the lyric I want attract the public to my concert plus I keep 90% of the recording! Dude!  I would love to advertize my stuff on the Pirate Bay but but it take forever since thes guys have to review thousand and thousand of stuff!

  • Rob

    AHAHAHAHAHA

  • Heart_calmness

    Yeah .. Thats will be first step towards victory of Kim Dotcom

  • Dsds

    fucking USA, a pleasure every day

  • Guest

    Meanwhile a request for the cloned hard drives to be returned (presumably without being copied) has been made to US authorities. —The request was actually for the cloned drives and any/all copies of the data they contain they have since made to be returned

    If the FBI actually returns anything you can be sure the corrupt SOBs will keep copies

    • The_seventh_guest

      They might keep copies, but it would be illegal for them to use, and since it was declared illegal any and all the information inside them, would not be accepted in court (AFAIK)

      • Eddy

         Just a dumb question from me really…they wont be admissible in NZ courts, will they be accepted in US court, I have a feeling they will.

        • MaxImuS

          Whole world will laugh on them if they would try to use them anywhere as it would prove that they don’t have any respect for other county’s law.

          Moreover, in all probability they be won’t be able to get Dotcom extradited. So, there would be no reason to use them at all.

          They are Screwed.

        • Guest

          That’s up to the US courts.  New Zealand courts have no jurisdiction over the admissability of evidence in US courts.

    • MEGA-joint

       You know the FBI will put a back door or tracking virus(s) on those drives.

      • Jigga-Munt

        That doesn’t matter – they’re only copies of the original drives.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        If they try that bunk, they can be arrested for ‘tainting of evidence’, which in most areas is a crime for a police officer to do.

    • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

       which also means that if any files that do relate to a release group or any criminal group, they couldnt use it against them .

  • Violated0

    Nice, so the FBI are now proved to be THIEVES by NZ Judge. Quite rightly Mega’s lawyers can now demand the FBI to promptly return all stolen data with the FBI being forbidden to keep a copy. This does not mean though the FBI may not get an official copy at a later date.

    Then there is a juicy trespass looming against the NZ authorities due to an invalid and poorly constructed search and seizure warrant. Kim Dotcom can then quite rightly sue for emotional and physical damages as well as general trespass and the unlawful removal of his property.

    The biggest battle is yet to come though in the extradition hearing. The US authorities are already charged to turn over the evidence that backs up their claims. The Judge can then see if Mega has a case to answer to or if this is just invalid political bullying.

    I doubt those in the US can be too happy today. This case is one again highlighting how reckless and careless their planning and acts were. Here they are trying to do the biggest copyright infringement case in all of history and they are totally fucking it up.

    • Luke

       While I agree with your statement and support Dotcom completely, I wish Americans would learn a thing or two sometimes (UFOs don’t exist, AGW is real, etc) and understand YOU CANNOT SUE here in New Zealand.

      • The guy

        I’m american and I know that UFOs don’t exist, and anybody that won’t shut up about the end of the world in 12/21/12 or the zombie apocalypse, or the kardashians, need a high five, to the face, with a steel chair.

        • Danny

          Idiot, there are only 12 months in the year not 21 :-P!

        • Violated0

          Danny he means December 21, 2012 namely the end of the Mayan calendar and widely reported the end of Planet Earth.

          I don’t know about that but I did hear Rebecca Black is due to release her first album that day as well so there is sure to be massive death soon following,

        • Anyone

          I’m sure Danny knew that, he just made fun of the silly date format ‘murricans use

        • Spock

          YY/MM/DD or STFU.

        • RandomAmerican

           Making fun of us for ALL the silly little shit we do could take you people months to accomplish…

      • Ian

        Luke, the idea that you can’t sue in New Zealand is totally wrong. You can’t sue in New Zealand for accidental injury, because ACC provides no blame coverage. You can however sue for almost any other reason.

        • Eddy

           Cant sue in NZ for accidental injury..great, cause ALL the companies that make a living off these cases are parasites and all people that sue, because they are stupid enough to not watch what they are doing, make me sick…and cost me a 500 quid a year extra for car insurance.

          .I think I have just figured out the best country in the world…can anyone get me a visa to live in NZ…Britain is a shithole at the moment, I fancy a change. ;)

      • Decimus

        UFO’s do exist, per se.  The thing that many people don’t realize is that government testing is performed on top-secret aircraft, testing which is not confirmed or denied by the government.  Global warming is another issue that is largely misunderstood, not only by Americans, but by the world.  With your black-and-white answers, it just seems as though you hold a very simplistic view of the world.

        I wish you would learn that not all Americans are trying to sue anyone in New Zealand.  You’re judging Americans based on the very worst that we have.  The government is evil and corrupt, as Dotcom claimed.  The MPAA is even worse than the government because there are at least a few politicians who are willing to reject bad ideas.  The ones that act in favor of the MPAA or the RIAA are either being paid off or are either members or close friends of members.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        That is a matter of opinion on all those subjects, Luke.

        AGW is FALSE, coming from the evidence in historical records that shows the world cools and warms all the time and the warming we are having is nothing extreme by historical standards.

        UFO’s we cannot prove exist or not, because any alien race is damned sure going to be able to ‘cloak’ their ships or something to keep us from seeing them unless they want us to see them.

        Which makes it impossible to prove or disprove UFO’s.

        • Random American

          UFO = Unidentified flying object. Anytime an airborne object is unidentified then it is a UFO. There is nothing about the term that automatically says alien.

          I think his main point is that the American people are just as helpless against our government as you are. If we don’t comply with their wishes then we are strong armed into doing so. Everyone thinks its all daisies and buttercups to live in America, but take a look at the number of people we have sitting in prisons compared to everywhere else. Every wrong step we take is punished in the dumbest of ways. A woman beats her child half to death and gets a 2 year prison sentence. A man gets caught selling a bag of marijuana to his buddy and he gets 5 years. He gets thats 5 years even though MOST Americans support the removal of marijuana prohibition laws. The problem is that our government would lose tons of money in law enforcement and backdoor deals if marijuana became legal for all use. Seem right to you? What can we do about it? Practically nothing, because what our government says is what goes, regardless of how we feel about it. Our politicians don’t work for the people anymore than yours do and we cant do anymore about it than you can.

      • Guest

        Of course you can sue in New Zealand. 

    • Neil

       Remember the FBI said they didn’t “steal” anything as it was data and data isn’t physical property – case against all file sharers destroyed surely we’re sharing data – not physical property – case concluded – Ideas anyone?

      • Violated0

        The FBI can say many things but much of that will be invalid and they would be quite happy to contradict themselves at a later date.

        Anyway the NZ Judge ruled their claim as invalid. Data is still physical property and that makes the FBI thieves in the eyes of many.

        The best news here is that they were busy searching through thousands of Kim Dotcom’s personal email and now that search has to cease and all data returned to Kim. No data can be used as evidence when it was unlawfully obtained.

        • http://bobthebuilder.myopenid.com/ BobTheBuilder

          Point 1: Given that they’re fighting a copyright infringement case, and they allege that the drives contain copyright infringing information, could it not also be concluded that they’ve breached copyright by making further unauthorized copies of this information – each (according the the FBI’s title at the beginning of every DVD I have) with a fine of up to $250,000 and 5 years in prison? Did the MAFIAA authorize these copies prior to them being made? Given the FBI’s previous evidence of incompetence, I would say that’s unlikely.

          Point 2: I also find it ironic that they claim that “data is not physical property and thus cannot be stolen” – given the whole premise for laws regarding illegal file sharing is that data copying is the same as theft completely contradicts their point in court – either it *can* be stolen, or it *can’t*. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. So what do you want? The content of Kim’s drives – under the premise that data can’t be stolen, thus invalidating the basis for your court case and indeed the entire premise supporting the illegality of file sharing *or* that file sharing is illegal and thus, your having cloned the drives renders your evidence as illegally obtained and thus inadmissible in court.

          What grades do you need from high school to get a job in the FBI? Because seriously guys, you’re embarrassing yourselves. 

          First rule: Don’t break the rule of law to obtain evidence to prosecute someone else for breaking it.

          Second rule: Especially don’t break the exact same law you’re trying to prosecute the defendant for – i.e. illegally copying and distributing material which you do not have permission to do so.

          Retards.

      • Qjo

        In response to Neil, Violated, & the cartoon carpenter dude:

        Please everyone stop quoting the “you can’t steal it because it’s digital” fallacy. The FBI (assholes, that they are) NEVER actually made that claim. What they were contending was that they did not violate NZ’s rules regarding jurisdictional transfer of evidence BECAUSE (they claim), those rules do not apply to electronic data. They may actually be correct in this regard but it was still carried out in a pretty sleazy manner behind the backs of the NZ authorities, which just proves what kind of scum they truly are.

        An awful lot of comments on this site have been based on this incorrect assumption of what was actually said, which I blame on the poor wording contained in the original report here on TF.

        Next point:

        Regarding another popular rallying cry here on site, the FBI did not violate copyright law by duplicating files from the MU servers and no judge would ever agree otherwise. The files they copied were not gathered with the intent of bypassing content owners right to be paid for their product, they were gathered to be used as evidence of what properties were actually being shared and distributed by MU’s users.

        Final point:

        Yes they may have screwed themselves as far as being able to use any of their wrongly acquired data as evidence in the future, but even so, you can be sure they now have a very large database of users names, IP’s, and lists of content shared which is enough to put an awful lot of people on their radar for possible future investigations. Scary thought, isn’t it?

  • The guy

    A win for Dotcom indeed.

    I live in the US, but I don’t care for a lot of the obese, trend-setting, religious, close-minded fucks, especially the Corps and the gov. As far as i’m concerned, the government and their rich friends can take a big fat rotten polish sausage in the ass.

  • http://notandor.wordpress.com/ Ole Juul

    I’m still looking forward to where this goes. Will there end up being some recognition of the $4 billion dollar business that was squashed. Will the (very respectable) multi billion dollar IPO be coming back? There has got to be some liabilities here.

    The issues of the copying of the drives as “only data” being OK accorcing to the Americans also makes it sound that from now on we will all be able to copy stuff with impunity if it is “only data”. . . or are there different rules for different people?

    • Derp

       Quot licet Iovi, non licet bovi.

    • Neil

       My point exactly – sue their asses multi million dollar business lost – a lot of his corporate customers have had to go elsewhere and once gone hard to get them to return again.

      • http://notandor.wordpress.com/ Ole Juul

        I doubt that in NewZealand you can sue for losses in a case like that. That’s an American thing. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in NZ. I don’t know how it works there. And yes, one might think that the US has a legal responsibility here, but in reality it is only a moral one, and they don’t care about that kind of stuff – if they even know what that means.

        • http://www.facebook.com/rayraynz Ray Taylor

          He can make a claim against our local police for damages and loss of property. It wont be a big multimillion dollar lawsuit – but the police would probably have to pay a fine or something to him.

          He probably wont be able to get any compensation from the FBI

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    Major win and that’s great. But remember, fbi will continue to play dirty

  • MrFuzzums

    Finally some good news!

  • Master

    This is great, but the US Government still thinks it owns the world.

    • The guy

      They can take their high horses and just shove it up their asses.

  • Mike

    You’ve also got to remember how much Kim Dotcom has lost with this crap, his whole buisness model, the time it’s been offline, thusly not generating money.

    I hope Kim goes and sues the ass of the American Government / FBI for all the pressure, and lost offline time his site has suffered.

    Kim Dotcom is NOT guilty of jack shit here, The US Govt are so stupid, and I hope they learn, this is not the way to do it.

    As far as I was aware, Mega was taking down files based on DCMA wasnt they? So why the need for this bloody stupid and (obviously proved illegal) raid and seizure?.

    I hope the US Govt gets whats coming to it, and gets a nice HEFTY FINE for the loss of buisness and personal depression Kim has suffered due to this complete farsicle.

    • Eddy

       Would he not have to go to court in the US to sue them…I cant see him setting foot anywhere near there.

  • Stitch

    just like those weapons of mass distruction fu-king children they are . bunch off bullies think the world is thiers

    • Violated0

      Mega is a good example of what would happen on a regular basis had SOPA passed. “We don’t like you so we will nuclear bomb your life and business away”

    • Syntax Erorr

      truth is, the world really IS there for the taking. the claim to ownership of anything is backed only by force. if you have the force necessary, you can take anything for yourself. force dictates who owns what.

      they probably didn’t teach you that in school…

  • Anonymous

     Mega was shut down, is still shut down and until all the seized items, including funds, are returned, it will remain shut down. that has always been the objective. that is a win for the US. the blatant disregard for and altering of the law to suit the ‘crimes’ by the US so-called Law Enforcement is an absolute disgrace! what i would assume from a ‘legal and collaborating nations’ point of view is even worse is the total disregard that has been shown towards the NZ legal system by the USA. they thought they could and actually did just ride rough shod into NZ and roped (probably willing, but possible coerced) local police into allowing and taking part in an illegal raid, seizing illegally items that were then withheld from the accused so no defense could be made, even though the charges were not valid. HOW DISGRACEFUL IS THAT?thankfully, the NZ court has made it’s position clear now but that doesn’t alter what has happened. i sincerely hope that the extradition is refused because the whole episode was trumped up and Dotcom can prosecute the US government and the entertainment industries for the complete influence they have had, influence that has been extended to every country in the world, enabling by bribing and lying, new laws to be introduced and old laws to be ‘upgraded’ just to keep them from joining the digital age and to continue robbing people over different types of media. i look forward to the exposure of those concerned in this escapade because i doubt if Kim will stop until he gets satisfaction! he just needs to watch his back and where he travels to. best of luck to him!!

    • Anonymous

       meant to add, i wonder what Attorney General MacBride’s arse is doing now he has gotten this result slapped on his desk? puckering up ready for the giant shafting he should be getting, with a bit of luck and looking for another job along with the prick who put him up to this shambles!

  • Timmi-Latte

    as a kiwi, i can assure dotcom will get his pound of flesh. The police commissioner (top cop) has signed for liability dotcom will be able to claim for costs and losses against the NZ police and NZ government, including damage to his cars ( by police helicopters spraying stones) damage to property(n safe room) mental anguish, stress, damage to reputation.. the fact the FBI thought that just because we have become friends again after the ANZUS issue (ie No Nuclear armed vessels in NZ) that our judges and judiciary would bend over and take one just shows how out of touch the USA  with the world with there imagined power.;

  • Guest

    Fuck yes, the irony is delicious.

    USA insists Megaupload is comitting crimes, but actually the USA is the one comitting crimes. Now karma is biting them in the ass for it. So much win it makes my eyes misty.

  • Noway

    Fu@K YA ! Way to go New Zealand, it’s nice to see that the entertainment industry DOES NOT have every damn civilized government in its pocket! Hopefully this will be the beginning of the end of the DAMN U.S. Film Industry sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong (In other countries civil business). And this coming from a proud US citizen who served his countries military for 9 years. Three cheers for the NZ court system, way to stick it to them boyz!.

  • Guest

    GIRFUY MPAA

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  • Mark

    This is indeed good news, I just hope now that they can stay in NZ and not have to go to USA…  I really hope that Megaupload team sue them for everything they can and donate the money to charities.

    • Vincent Giannell

       If Megaupload sues the government, they’ll just get sued back.

      • Guest

         For what reason would Megaupload get sued back? Megaupload has every reason to sue for the damaged caused to property from the ILLEGAL raid to his his property.

  • Guest

    to Kim dotcom please bring us MegaPay a paypal digital currency backed by Bitcoin and all global and uncontrolled by any USA or USA affiliated corporations

    for this we will thank you :)

  • PelouzeTF

    Sincerely, New Zealand, fuck you. Fuck you with a stick.

    • Conservative

      PelouzeTF is a paid employee (henchman) of the MAFIAA.  His comments are not representative of the general public.

    • Guest

      Haha!

    • It’s a fit-up

       I love it when assholes get upset.

  • Anonymous

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Potter too lenient? Murder trial aborted due to holiday?

  • Andrew Lee

     Awesome it’s about time! This is a step in right direction for damn sure! I’m glad NZ is showing they have more sense than my government.

    The actions of governments doing corporations bidding is setting a really really bad precedence on whether or not the same rules apply to governments and rich people as they do for us.

    The laws we have should be applied to everyone. The idea that just because you have a certain amount of money or political power there is a cutoff where laws stop applying to you is really messed up. The people involved in these actions IMO should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for the non government officials. The government officials should be held even more accountable and prosecuted harsher.
    They’re the ones that should know the law better than anyone and should be far more respectful of the law.

    We give them their power to uphold it not to bend it and abuse it to fit their own needs.
    Still I seen the Mega case coming to a end very soon. It would not surprise me if it’s thrown out before the year is over.

    • Anon

      This has nothing to do with NZ govt. The current elected govt would quite happily acquiesce to anything the U.S. state department asked. This is our judiciary which thankfully seems to be showing themselves as independent-minded and not nearly as much a pack of bought-out S.O.Bees as John Key is.

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  • FuzzyDuck

    Kudos for New Zealand! At least New Zealand is standing up to US bullying a lot better than the UK is (which just bends over as far as the US asks – look up the Richard O’Dwyer case).

    • Anon

      again, it’s not New Zealand in terms of our representative democratically elected leaders. It’s our judiciary. 

      • FuzzyDuck

        Actually there are two things at play here, one is the judiciary the other is the laws passed by elected representatives. The judiciary applies the laws made by the parliament, but the judiciary can also fail itself by not applying the law properly.

        In this case both aspects are in play with NZ apparently having the laws that protect citizens and having a judiciary that properly applies the law. When comparing NZ to the UK, we see a much better result in NZ. That the UK bends over for the US is mostly thanks to laws made by elected officials.

        • Guest

          The current government is very keen on undermining the robustness of our protections under law and have already done so in fact.

          So it’s definately not thanks to the current government.

  • Andrew me

    As i have said before in the comments here that the NZ taxpayers are going to have to pay a lot of money to Kim, the US will just state that they advised the police and they were abiding by the advise they got from them.

    In fact the US could say that the police damaged the case by not following procedures and probably claim from them, what this case does though, no matter what the DOJ in the US does, is make it clear to any other country not just to jump into action when the US comes calling, it shows every other police force that they had better check everything the US say’s and make sure it is legal in there country before seizing evidence of a supposed crime.

    This case could come back to haunt the US when they need to go after someone who is a real criminal and really doing things that are damaging the US.

  • runkomunko

    Somehow I dont think the US, especially the FBI is going to care about some New Zealand kangaroo court ruling lol.

    Anony-World.tk

    • qwerty

      kangaroo????????

    • Anon

      Kangaroo Court? Are you serious? I recognise that it’s a universal expression but this is NZ not Australia and not just some po-dunk shit-kicker little town in Texas which executes the mentally handicapped. Be a bit more polite.

      The FBI has to care because it has implications of their case. They will definitely “care”. It does not stop them from using other methods to get Dotcom but it absolutely impacts on this trial, especially if he does not get extradited which seems less and less likely every day.

      • DutchGuest

         You’re replying to a comment spammer, did you really expect anything beyond such ludicrous nonsense ?  :-)

      • Mikey The Mongoloid

        What are you talking about Willis? Dont be a doody head. Do they really kill mentals in texas. My mom says she wants to take me to Texas for a “vacation” she says. Yeah right mom, like I’m going to fall for that bull puckey. NOT. All they have in texas is steers and queers. I think its time for me to run away and go be in the circus slide show, but not a texas circus slide show and get a job as a mentalist. I dont know what that is but the neighbor man says I’m mental.

        • megarockradiostl

          They do not kill mentals in Texas. George Bush was proof of that.

  • Sketch

    i like the part where they say it was just data and cannot be stolen…..makes you think.

    • Anon

      If this was America then that one statement could become legal gospel if a judge upheld it. I mean, it worked with the notion of corporate personhood, didn’t it?

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     the US is a bigger dictatorship than Germany ever was. it thinks that it can do as it likes, wherever it likes, and that it’s rules and laws apply everywhere it wants, when it wants, but no laws apply to the US other than it’s own laws. the only reason that the US hasn’t made a physical bid for world domination is that that doesn’t rely on man-power any more, but is decided on the ‘push of a button’. the problem there is that unless there were a button to destroy every nation at once, except the US, that wouldn’t work. if you assume it would work though, what would be left for the US? how could they intimidate, rule or dominate what wasn’t there anymore? what satisfaction would they get from fucking up themselves? with NZ standing up against the US, i wonder how long before other countries do the same? i hope it does and damn soon! it has got to happen! if it doesn’t, then it may well be done without any bloodshed, but the world will be ruled by the US, for the US and everywhere else will be puppets to them

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  • nick

    i knew he would prevail. if it went the other way, it would have been so wrong and a dark mark on society.

  • Anon

    I hope Dotcom will release megaupload under a new domain name such as megaupload.se … I hope he will learn from that single mistake and his business will come back more than alive soon. I want to see his project alive and see MPAA/RIAA been poor, because his idea is fantastic and will change EVERYTHING that we know about entertainment. Even if disk’s price drop, artist will get more money than ever.

    This is what you call Freedom, the fact that America was build for, not this current bullshit.

    • Decimus

      I honestly don’t think that there was anything that Dotcom could have done to prevent this short of canceling his MegaBox plans.  They had been planning on raiding him and perhaps expected him to go down without a fight and with full cooperation from New Zealand.  It’s basically like the American mafia, they would beat up or kill someone to “send a message”.

      Right now, Dotcom has been gathering support, winning his cases, and demonstrating that the FBI had been acting without authority.  It’s an abuse of power which likely comes from the President or the Vice President.  He will win his cases, as it was known months ago that the raid was performed illegally.  They attempted to legalize the raid AFTER they had done it.

      I just hope this action gets the media attention that it deserves in the United States.

      • Vincent Giannell

         That or the government will find a way to make us and Dotcom look like liars.

        • Guest

          How can they make us and Dotcom look like liars when Megaupload has won its case. It is the government who are very much looking like the liars as the action that they have done with regards to this case has been shown by the court to be ILLEGAL.

      • Almost no coverage in USA

        There is VERY little coverage of this in the United States.  TorrentFreak, ArsTechnica, and Cnet are covering it, in descending order of attentiveness.  But these are technology sites which are read by very, very few people.  Mainstream newspapers, television, magazines, etc. don’t even know MU or Dotcom exist.

      • teenygozer

        Nobody on TV or cable, not even the evening MSNBC “progressive” bunch, is covering this story.  Not a word. I strongly suspect that if someone tried to bring this up on, say, a talk show or news program, it would be edited out before it got to air or quickly interrupted and the topic of conversation changed.  Only about six or eight mega-corporations own everything you watch or listen to over here and they’re not about to let anybody in on what’s going on.  Which is why they desperately want to take over the internet, too.

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  • Anon

    We all knew when it was happening it was a completely over the top reaction from the US and NZ authorities. Many had the feeling it wasn’t legal from day one. But they achieved what they wanted to in taking down Megaupload. Corporate America at its best.

  • Moneyball

    Ode to Kim … 

    “For forty-one million, you built a playoff team. You lost Damon, Giambi, Isringhausen, Pena and you won more games without them than you did with them. You won the exact same number of games that the Yankees won, but the Yankees spent one point four million per win and you paid two hundred and sixty thousand. I know you’ve taken it in the teeth out there, but the first guy through the wall. It always gets bloody, always. 

    It’s the threat of not just the way of doing business, but in their minds it’s threatening the game. But really what it’s threatening is their livelihoods, it’s threatening their jobs, it’s threatening the way that they do things. And every time that happens, whether it’s the government or a way of doing business or whatever it is, the people are holding the reins, have their hands on the switch. They go bat shit crazy. I mean, anybody who’s not building a team right and rebuilding it using your model, they’re dinosaurs. They’ll be sitting on their ass on the sofa in October, watching the Boston Red Sox win the World Series.” 

    - Arliss Howard as John Henry, Moneyball

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  • 0omg

    mister dotcom PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE sue the hell outta them !!! this could be the most epic win in the last 20 years of usa failure :) GO GET THEM !!!

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  • foff

    Rapidshare was in business way before megaupload and served up shit loads of copyrighted files for years so why oh why in the fuck did they not get raided like megaupload? Why are they forgiven of all their past sins? There are at least a dozen other digital lockers they could raid.  Where the fuck are the raids?  Something really really stinks here.  We all know megaupload is innocent and pure white as the driven snow.   

    On another subject glad to see NZ growing a backbone.  I sincerely hope the extradition is shot down.  The charges are bogus and the NZ judges need to recognize that and send a big fuck you to the US justice department.  

  • tonyj

    The good news is that Chris Dodd most likely fried all his connections to Government both domestic and International after this debacle, the limp ass former Senator will most likely be the lamest duck lobbyist in the pond. MPAA has lost it’s teeth and now this is most likely the beginning of the end of the MPAA’s influence over the net.

    • Guest

      He was last seen heading for the panic room lol

    • Vincent Giannell

       I’m not so sure about that. Chris Dodd will no doubt try to prove the search warrant was legal.

      • Guest

         and in doing so Chris Dodd will show himself up to the world for the liar that he is.

        • Guest

          He already did so after he resigned from his senatorial position or something and claimed he wasn’t going to be a lobbyist.

    • Violated0

      All the time the MPAA/RIAA have seats in the Whitehouse they can tell Obama and Biden all the bullshit they want every fucking day of the year.

      The only good news there is that at least Obama and Biden have seen the massive public discontent and now know the public do not like what the Copyright Cartels are asking the Administration to do.

  • http://twitter.com/TPBGirl TPBGirl ™

    The MPAA needs to be dismantled! I hope Kim sues the crap out of Chris Dodd!! No more abusing U.S. services as there personal police and lap dogs. I am tired of our tax dollars being wasted on bullshit like this.

    CONGRATS to KIM DOTCOM!

    Regardless of the MPAA, you have people who love you & support you in the USA!

    • tremor

      Why would you love and support a man who gets rich from piracy? I believe in sharing but not for profit. Although, as much as i dislike Kim, i hate the MAFIAA more.

    • Violated0

      Irony? The last time I checked the MPAA had to go as far as to hire people to attend such as their pro-SOPA rallies.

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  • Craigerz

    So we can expect that arrest warrants will now be issued for the FBI and the NZ Anti-Terrorist (or perhaps Pro-Terrorist) Team?

    Had anyone else commited these crimes, that would be the protocol, no? Unless Im mistaken in assuming no one is above the law..

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  • ken147

    Does anyone have this judges address? I want to give him a hug.

  • megarockradiostl

    SUE THE BASTARDS! LET THEM SEE WHAT IT’S LIKE!!

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  • Huggy1

    Indeed you can sue, I have a case going into the High Court later this year and its so eery that there are many similarities to my case, no crimes on warrant, no specific list of items to seize. The NZ police a slap happy hope like hell the victim doesnt stand up and defend their rights like Dotcom and me. They almost border on corruption in my opinion. The Yanks say jump, NZ asks how high. well I hope Kim sues the shit out of the NZ government have a look at this report

    http://ipca.govt.nz/Site/media/2008/2008-Sep21-Bruce-Van-Essen.aspx 

  • Neotoasty

    Yes, thank you for finally realizing that what these bastards are doing are dirty tricks. Can’t we shut them down for this?

  • Ernie

    Nice to read this kind of news regarding the Megaupload case, but I still see it dragging on much longer.

    Still waiting for the day I open TF and see an headline like “Megaupload case dismissed, website is set to return in coming weeks.”

  • Guest

    About that Megabox thing it go’s to show that if you did deeper into any case it is always about money and politics, Amazing….top rated juicers

  • Blowme Gov

    now maybe they will give me back the hundreds of hours of video footage they stole from us… yeah right.

  • HaveYouEverConsidered

    My favorite part is:

    “In addition, the data removed from New Zealand by the FBI (which they claim was ‘not stolen’, since it was ‘only data’) was also ruled to be illegally obtained, and should not have been taken out the country.”

    If it wasn’t stolen because it was “only data” does that justify online movie sharing?

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    I guess for those left in the world that don’t already know that the US breaks their own laws to enforce laws all will know it now.

    Our justice department was caught running guns to mexico that resulted in deaths of border patrol agents and the same justice department is in charge of conducting investigations on itself for running guns to mexico that resulted in the deaths of border patrol agents.

    What a system.

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