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Megaupload Wins Crucial Evidence Disclosure Battle With US Govt.

A New Zealand court has ruled that the U.S. Government must hand over the evidence they have against Megaupload so Kim Dotcom and other employees can properly defend themselves against the pending extradition request. The U.S. refused to comply but Judge Harvey concluded that this would be unfair. He further noted that the entire U.S. case stands or falls on the strength of the alleged copyright infringement charges.

megauploadAs widely reported, Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom and the rest of the “Mega Conspiracy” stand accused by the US Government of running a criminal operation.

Charges in the indictment include engaging in a racketeering conspiracy, conspiring to commit copyright infringement, conspiring to commit money laundering, and two substantive counts of criminal copyright infringement.

The prosecution is hoping to have the defendants extradited to the U.S., but following a ruling by New Zealand District Court Judge David Harvey today, this will prove to be more complicated than expected.

In an 81-page decision, Judge Harvey ruled on a request from Megaupload’s legal team for the U.S. Government to reveal what evidence they have on the defendants. In other words, Megaupload wants to see the extent to which the U.S. authorities can back up their criminal charges.

The U.S. Government objected to the request arguing that Megaupload doesn’t have the right to disclosure in the extradition process, but Judge Harvey disagreed.

He ordered the disclosure of all documents related to the alleged criminal acts, not just those in the possession of New Zealand police, but all files held by the FBI and other U.S. authorities as well.

Much of today’s ruling looks into procedural issues, but Judge Harvey also makes some interesting remarks on the way the U.S. is handling this case. He notes that if the U.S. has its way the extradition process would be merely “administrative”, as opposed to “judicial”. This would interfere with the rights of the accused, who according to Judge Harvey should have the right to review the evidence so they can argue against it.

“In my view there must be fairness and the hearing and balance must be struck, otherwise the record of case becomes dominant virtually to the exclusion of everything else and places the extradition process in danger of becoming an administrative one rather than judicial,” the verdict reads.

The Judge further grants disclosure of evidence related to all the criminal charges, and notes that the allegations of the U.S. Government are rather complex. For example, the authorities are applying civil copyright concepts in a criminal context. Furthermore, he notes that the copyright infringement changes are the cornerstone, in the sense that the money laundering, wire fraud and racketeering charges are all based on the alleged copyright infringements.

“There is a complex factual matrix and justiciable issues are complicated by the fact that the United States is attempting to utilize concepts from the civil copyright context as a basis for the application of criminal copyright liability which necessitates a consideration of principles such as the dual use of technology or what they described as significant non-infringing use,” Judge Harvey writes.

“The existence of criminal copyright charges is a keystone to providing the unlawful conduct element of the racketeering, money laundering and wire fraud charges.”

Judge Harvey concludes with an order for the US Government to hand over all documents related to the charges within 21 days.

This is a significant victory for Megaupload, and not only because they can now build a better defense against the extradition as well as any U.S trial. The comments made by Judge Harvey also suggest that without proper evidence of criminal copyright infringements against the accused, there’s not much left of the case. And as Kim Dotcom revealed earlier, this evidence might not be that strong.

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  • Djboydanny

    Brilliant news!!

    • Anonymous

      Brilliant news it is indeed with many of my desires in this case met today.

      The first to make me happy was Judge Harvey concluding that copyright infringement is the key to all the other criminal charges. They would need to prove that MegaUpload broke DMCA law and after the YouTube case there is still a lot of forgiveness for confusion and mistakes. So hard for them to achieve and if ruled a lawful DMCA safe harbour company then you can’t money launder lawful money and no racketeering either.

      This is why I said it was very stupid of the DoJ/FBI to NOT prove copyright infringement in civil court first when their whole case depends on that infringement ruling.

      What I most love about today is that Mega have now bounced the ball back against the US Government. You would be surprised at how many cases fail because they fail to meet the deadline. Not to forget the amount of work they now have to do to meet that deadline.

      Well I only now wish we have Judges like Judge Harvey here in the UK to bring some balance to the extradition process. Administrative is a good word to describe the system here where the US Government only needs to “believe” you have committed a crime for you to be shipped off in the first plane out. Evidence of wrongdoing only applies when US citizens are being extradited to the UK.

      • HustleHard

         @316a2728bcfa91b9e33d30d00275eb26:disqus  your government so fucking great why are you guys being raped by your internet providers!? you pay out the ass for slow speeds and ridiculous data caps I use in 1 day. You think your great politicians dont play a HUGE part in that!?  Tis one of the biggest rackets I’ve EVER seen. lol  I will say it again : ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE CORRUPT.

        • HustleHard

           @316a2728bcfa91b9e33d30d00275eb26:disqus ..Another thing asshole..why do we (2 people in love) need to pay YOUR government thousands of dollars to get married?  upwards of 10k and its not over yet. jump through hoop after fucking hoop.  It’s the canadian government not the US.  I also live in a state where thousands of your people flock to every winter. They own homes here. They love it here. We dont charge them. Sounds to me like the Great Canadian government is pretty corrupt & money hungry just like any other country.

  • Anonymous

    Suck it USA.   8====D~~ O:

    • Anonymous

      I bet they don’t even have the ability to do that! :P Impotent bastards.

      • http://ilikekillnerds.com/ Dwayne

        God bless nuclear power, haha.

        • Toblah

          Wake up World War III is here, it’s not a military one but an economy war. The world shall unite and get rid of usa!!!

    • Aa

      hey! most of us in the us are all with you! it’s our gov’t that’s screwing up -_-

      • Big K

        Exactly. It’s _your_ government. I really do hope that you don’t expect us to fix it for you ;-)

        • SOmeone ELse

          It would be great if someone would fix it. Let’s see, a lot of it is from people that aren’t elected. Big money is paying off those that are elected who might take action for us. It’s unlikely that the money flow will be cut off since the receivers of that money are the ones that decide whether or not they can take it. 

          Sure, there are some rational honorable people out there, but too many corrupt or stupid ones are steering that metaphorical boat.

          Yeah, there are problems with the USA government. There are problems with the Corporations. (The way they have gone multinational and officially put their offices in Ireland, and the Cayman Islands, and other places to avoid taxes, I don’t think they can be called American companies.) And are elections are choose corrupt moron A or evil douchebag B.
          On the other hand, most of the other countries out there have their own closet full of government scum and disreputable activities. So before you start bagging on the USA rather than the specific organization causing the problems, make sure your own country doesn’t have dirty paws. 
          Good luck with that.

        • HustleHard

           You all act as if the US government is the only one that is corrupt. They_all_are.

          Sorry to break it to you but American politicians aren’t the only greedy people in this world and none of this shit would be going on if all the other governments didnt help!

        • YARIGHT

          @HustleHard NOPE wrong in canada we had a minority govt from 2006 to 2011 and it wasnt that bad …its a held in check thing and your lobby goons cant afford to bribe everyone like they do in the usa …..

        • CCd

           But pardon me, did you fix anything? <3

        • HustleHard

           @316a2728bcfa91b9e33d30d00275eb26:disqus  .. My girlfriend soon to be wife is a Canadian citizen & your country has sold your people out just the same. Give it more time & when you’ve been around as long as the US you’ll have the same corruption on the same level. We’ve been around longer to be a little more fucked up than you. lol

      • HustleHard

         Yep! I’m an American & I don’t agree with any of the bullshit our government is pulling…so lets go easy on all the American hate in here. LOL

        • YARIGHT

          so your idea is to JUST post on a torrent blog about it and that does what exactly? start yacking to your govt about it
          more of you that do it more they will know to back off.

      • YARIGHT

        do somehitng then Aa dont just post here post it everywhere im sick a american excuses 
        this economic terrorism needs to stop.

    • Andrew Lee

       ROFL!! I’m from the USA but I agree with you 100% as long as it’s not my mouth. I think Obama should be the one to “make up” with the world.

      Now apologize yeah that’s right apo-lo-gize”spoken softly”

      • Barack Hussein Ozama

        mmmorff… orm… mmofwaer (I am sorry)

    • :|

      Don’t blame me or my country for what the government does.

      • Eris

        Of course we do. You are the people, remember?

      • Anonymous

        I am sorry but your whole country and all the people in it are to blame for what your elected officials do to the rest of the World.

        • HustleHard

           You’re a fucking idiot.

        • Guest

          How are the people to blame for what our elected officials do? 

          They lie to us in order to get elected, then once they’re in office, they do whatever the fuck they want(which is usually whatever the fuck lobbyists want) while flipping off their constituency.

          I mean, shit. How many Americans voted for this MegaUpload raid? Oh, none of them? 

        • Kropotkin

          Remove your blinders and see the world for what it really is… It’s not a democracy.
          Stop blaming people for their origins or their nationality or the actions of their governments.  You really sound like a spoiled nazi-white-trash kid who thinks he knows it better then anyone else.  The fact of that is that you yourself aren’t showing any signes of understanding what it means to be ‘democratic’.
          Try to debate in a respectfull way, without putting out the blaming finger and without thinking that you and you alone know the truth.  Oh wait… you just sound like that one country… 

      • HustleHard

         You have to remember..The U.S. is like lawyers to all these people. We are scum ..until they need millions of dollars of aid or help with military action.  Then we’re ok. lol

        • YARIGHT

          my nation has never asked you for military aid and as we can sell our oil ( canada ) to china whom pays its bills and doesnt rip us off ( softwood lumber 1 billion americans stole ) then what are you trolling about….must be a dumb yankie soldier….worried about being out a work and having to go work at macdonalds cause hes a dumb retard…

        • Chê

           ”Help with military action”? Like Cuba? Afghanistan I and II? Iraq I and II? Iran I and II? I don’t blame individuals for a country’s actions, but if you want to be a stars and stripes dick about it you might benefit from a little education about your underhanded, greedy, drug dealing, country invading, warmongering nation. Did you hear? Even China is condemning humans rights violations in the US. CHINA.

          As a Kiwi, I’m proud that we still have un-corrupted people in our system to make fair judgements like this. Keep your filthy corporate law out of New Zealand. We want it as much as we want your atomic warships.

  • Mr.Afghanistan

    This game will continue at least for 10+ years.

    Court – home – Court – home – Court – home !!!!

    Kim Dotcom should get used to because this is a long term game.
    Well… I would say “God of War 5 with unlimited stages”.

    And i highly recommend Kim Dotcom to open a blog and ask for help/donation to cover the costs in order to continue his battle with the corrupt U.S government else he will face a life time jail.

    Best of luck Mr.Dotcom

    • Glib

      Kim Dotcom … ask people for donations?  Uhm, you do know how much money this guy made, right?  Asking for donations from the very people that made him all his money seems … odd, at best.

      I mean, I believe what his business did was not very illegal at all, but he is hardly in a position to require any money.  As well, if this gets dismissed, I see no reason he can’t just fire everything back up and start raking in the bags of money again.

      • Dustin

        His money is held frozen and he can get it upon request only.

        • Anonymous

          Yes and now Kim Dotcom makes a music album he would desire we all buy to support his cause.

    • It’s a fit-up.

       No offence but thank fuck you aren’t his lawyer.

    • Guest

      He’s a victim of the system, definitely deserves some help.
      I don’t think they would allow it though, unless he used some services that weren’t associated to the US for it.

  • The guy

    Thank you judge Harvey for having a brain :)

    • SomeGuy

       I don’t think intelligence is the problem. Rather this should say, thank you Judge Harvey for not caving to political pressure and contributions.

      • The guy

        That too. :)

  • Huddel

    Evidence is not strong?

    Considering what happened to dajaz1 and all those demain name seizures I’m willing to bet that the only “evidence”  they have is the sayings of the RIAA and MPAA and know their case doesn’t stand to up at distance, let alone closer scrutinity.They came up with those allegations of financial crimes only to get him extradited to the US to get a totally unfair one-side condemnation and deny him the proper conditions to fight against a case that would have died soon in civil court – it failed and backfired horrible for them.
    I hope this abuse from US authorities get the proper trashing in court (which seems it will).

    • FBI

      Ha Ha … We Get To Keep The Seized Money Assets! 

      Finders Keepers Kim (sucks to be YOU!)

      • Huddel

        The order for the banks to freeze Dotcom assets came from the court NZ, and when the court trash the case they’ll be ordered to give back the money for Dotcom. 

        If, for some god forsaken reason the has managed to violate all sorts of contracts and took control of the money, then the banks will have to return the money to Dotcom due to insurance and the US will have to pay the banks – which will happen because we all know the last thing the government needs now the backlash of a bunch of angry bankers and all the economic damage that can cause.Sorry agent, no new notebooks to replace the 160 you guys lost in the 44 months pastmonths. :< I heard the ICE is getting all sorts of funding these days, maybe it's time to change agencies?

        • FBI

          GOD works for the USA! 
          “In GOD We Trust” 

          (ie WE KEEP THE MONEY HONEY)

      • Female Body Inspector

         You haven’t been keeping up with this story. Kim has had access to some of his accounts for a couple of months now, granted by the court.

        • FBI

          This Democracy and ‘Rule of Law’ Shit SUCKS! 

          Stupid JUDGE.  BANKS are for FEDS! 
          (I’m keeping DotCash)

      • Peter Fell

         suck a black cock

        • FBI

          OBAMA COCK RULES! 
          EU cocks just USA tools.   

          Extradition 
          Rendition 
          Exploitation 
          Corporatization 

          WE WIN … YOU LOSE 

        • acronym creator anon

          Termination

          E.
          R.
          E.
          C.
          T.

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

       Watch as the next step is simply the DOJ dropping the charges against Kim pending further investigation. They get to save face, and Megaupload is already destroyed.

      • Anyone

        MU would be relaunched fast after this is over
        this time more resilient

      • Anonymous

        Not much face saving when they get hit with a class action for unauthorised takedown and destruction of private and non-infringing property..

        • Anonymous

          It would be much sweeter if Mega sued all the individual people who had a hand in this case.

        • Joker

          OMG…I really want them to be sued back & lose face like never before. These shameless bastards have done enough damage to the country, the world & most unforgivably the Internet in the name of fake justice!

    • YARIGHT

      sue in small claims courts in your local areas and when precident of law locally gets the seizures ruled illegal like ontario canada where they become your property then you can sue for theft OVER 5000$ for property and have US assets in canada seized to pay for it and perhaps sue music canada ( formerly CRIA ) for some of the music levy cash ( 76 mill per year now) imagine when that dires up hollystupid is gonna have a harder and harder time to do anything and they know it.

  • Master

    Justice is finally being served for once.

    • Nowayman

      In what world is this again..?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

       It’s hardly ‘justice’. It’s just that a judge has made a fair and reasonable ruling on allowing the defence to see all the evidence in order to prepare their case against extradition (or was it extraordinary rendition?) to the USA..
      JUSTICE would be if the clock were turned back to the beginning of 2012, the MAFIAA self destructed and Megaupload was still online. No, I’m not holding my breath either.

  • Lulz

    I’m a U.S. citizen and I’m happy for this outcome.  Our government is acting bigger than it should and needs put in it’s place.

    • Piper

      Agreed

    • 234234

       no its only the judge

      • r9k

        Yes the judge is acting like a fuck, but come on, regardless our government has been acting like the Police of the world for years now.

    • Guest

      .. too bad its the New Zealand judge… stupid U.S. gov’t why can’t you be democratic..

      • TF
      • TheS4ndm4n

        The US is a democracy.
        Doesnt mean that they get a good government.
        You get what you vote for. So the conclusion to draw, is that the US public is stupid…

        The public gets manipulated by the media. Politicians get bribed by lobbyists.
        They let themselves be controlled like a bunch of corporate puppets.

        • Reader

          More like you get what you are told you voted for.. without true openness, how can we be sure that even 1% of legit votes were counted towards the appointed person?

        • Jon7272

          sounds like us aussies lol

        • No

           It’s not a democracy, it’s a corporatocracy.

        • theonlyone

           and everyone you vote for is part of the system which is corrupt, therefore everyone you vote for is corrupt.

        • Iggle Piggle

          Germany was a democracy in 1933 when Hilter came to power. Democracies get subverted all the time. What makes the USA special is that there’s been no announcement of the subversion. 

          Germany in 1933 had the Law for the Protection of the People and the State, while the USA has a multitude, the foremost being PATRIOT Act.

        • kogster

          @5f4c16dbd646e7fe2373cc285ed780c1:disqus Hitler never got a majority of the votes. He staged a coup.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=598567492 Yann Miller

           kogster Hitler’s putsch resulted in him being “imprisoned”. He rose to power after being appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg and enacting Article 48 of the Weimar constitution. Mussolini was the one that took power by force – the March on Rome.

        • YARIGHT

          @theonlyone  in the usa YES in other nations not so much make sure that you say loudly no lobby cash by corporations and it will get heard by a party wanting to get elected and you destroy them totally if they dont do as they say. 

        • YARIGHT

          @TheS4ndm4n ask an american and they say that they are not a democracy but a republic which is funny cause they are BUT the system now is a plutocracy….

        • Spenny

          Is it not great how we’re all together for the same cause though? ;) The U.S and their people are like every world power. Losing it’s ability to consolidate people and government. The machine is just to big to turn. Not to mention how difficult it is to keep up with politics, especially when it is intertwined with technology. 

    • Ridgway

       Born and raised USA too and parts of our system are out of control. Spank us please!

  • USA

    What! 

    How dare Judge Harvey make it so Dotcom can defend himself! 

    Just for that, here’s the new Axis of Evil:
    Iran
    North Korea
    NEW ZEALAND

    • Anonymous

      You forgot China.

  • JMC

    Just watch out for the drones Kim  !
    They will try to get you one way or another  !

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Spycrab-Spy/100003325871905 Spycrab Spy

      TPB  drones away!
      kill the military drones!

  • DisquSucks

    This has happened because TF went back to the “old” Disqus. 

    KARMA KARMA KARMA

  • No1_2_u

    Now this is a nice kick in the MAFIAA & the US’ ass!

    I cannot wait & see how they are going to try & weasel out of this one…

  • Anonymous

    Goes to show… Kiwis have balls, which the Brits do not.

    British — those spineless bastards. Bend over for the Americans, why don’t you?

    • Glib

      To be fair, the UK “does” have an economy that is quite global, New Zealand’s claim to fame is being close to Australia and having a pretty landscape.  Copyright has much less to do with NZ’s economy than in the UK.

      • OnwTroll2RuleThemAll

        One Troll To Rule The All! 

      • Anonymous

        And Britain’s claim to fame is all the wealth and resources it stole from the countries it once ruled. Brits have gotten used to living off the wealth and become lazy. Nobody wants to work, just live off state benefits. Now that you’ve burned through all of it, you’re royally fucked. ;)

        - Lazy and unemployed youth.
        - NHS in ruins.
        - Sky high taxes. (20% VAT — lololol)
        - Political parties cozying up the Murdochs and Ashcroft.

        Good riddance, British scum.

        • Danny

          Our claims to fame are many, our engineers are the best in the world and we have created some of the most pivotal pieces of technology in the past 200 years. Think Steam Engine, Diesel Engine, Jet Engine, Microwave Ovens (cavity magnetron), Microchips, etc, etc, etc. We pay huge amounts to support India and other countries in which we colonised that are poor, other countries such as Australia and the US are thriving as a result of the colonisation so I am not sure what your points are?

          The vast majority of people do work and don’t just live off benefits, unemployment is at 8% right now so that leaves 92% of people working. (It was 4% unemployment before the recession) And only half the people who are unemployed claim benefits.

          The youth are not lazy, there is just no work. We are in this thing
          called a recession and a lot of companies have failed leaving people out of work. Our unemployment
          is not as large as most other countries anyway. US is around the same but was far worse a year ago.

          NHS is still live and kicking, one of the best health services in the world. I’m not sure where you get your point from there.

          VAT is high but not the highest, we do actually get quite a lot for our taxes like the afore mentioned NHS.

          Political parties getting close to the Murdochs is just a symptom of the tabloid reading public. Every major election winner in recent history has been backed by the Sun so if you want to win you have to get close to Murochs crew.

          Our political system is not too bad, no way near as bad as the US. At least we aren’t getting charged VAT on pasties!

        • Anon

          in reply to danny, there are plunty of jobs, just people are unwilling or ‘unable’ to work them, most warehouses are always looking for people and most shipping/packing are always hiring, the main issue isnt the loss of jobs its the downgrading of them, some people chopped their pay into 1/3 of pre-recession due to high paying jobs leaving to go to someplace that will do it for less, though part of that is our wanting to have everything, and everyone wanting it, causing prices to rise and to make the system worse, i got my first job out of high school  and i make 11.50/12.50 an hour, the problem is college isnt really doing anything to increase alot of peoples job opportunities and they dont teach that.

        • Danny

          @2f5b3fa26595bc45871213860db4668f:disqus

          Yeah many young people choose the wrong courses at Uni, my younger brother, for example, is actually about to start an apprenticeship after getting a business degree at Uni.

          Of the un-employed people I know none of them are unwilling to work, one of my best friends has been a sort of house husband for a while because he can’t find work. He is in the unemployed category but doesn’t claim benefits as he has an aversion to the dole.

          The figures of unemployment pre and post recession indicates that there is less work out there and it’s not just people on the sick like media tend to point out.

        • Mcgravier

          Dude, just for comparison:
          Poland 23% VAT
          + forced health insurance
          + broken healthcare system
          + broken education system
          + retirement system DESTIN to brake in about 30 years
          + averange salary ~660 – 700 USD

          Dont say it sucks, because there is always a shithole worse than place where you (or I) live.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mikhailmehra Mikhail Mehra

          I would just like to reply to Danny. 

          HAH. 

          You support India? You have the audacity to say that you SUPPORT India? 
          You raped and pillaged India for nearly a century. You enslaved Indians. You stole as much as you possibly could before you were kicked out. You still have the world’s largest diamond, which belongs to India, the Kohinoor diamond. Also what foreign Aid are you talking about? The 280 million a year? The same amount The Avengers made opening weekend? What it costs to buy a really really awesome mansion in Mumbai? An amount described as “peanuts” by the Indian Finance Minister: 

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096628/British-foreign-aid-India-tells-Britain-dont-need-peanuts-offer-us.html

          The British are responsible for destroying the natural equilibrium of the entire planet. Every country the British decided to set out to invade and pillage was doing just fine before you lot got there. 

          I am not sure what bubble you live in, but to the rest of the world, the UK looks like it is on the verge of being a post apocalyptic society. Not literally but your country is in shambles. Not much different than the condition America is in right now. 

          Also what are you smoking man? 

          The microchip was invented by two Americans: Jack Kilby and Robert Noyce
          The Diesel Engine was invented by a German: Rudolf Diesel
          The microwave oven by Percy Spencer an American. 

          If anything, I would say that the Swedish, The German, The Swiss are responsible for most of the inventions and Scientific developments of our time. And off course America, for providing an environment in which foreign scientists could thrive. Geniuses like Tesla. And off course for its own great inventors. 

          Please climb out of the bubble you currently reside in. 

          “Cheers”

      • Mykstaa

        being close to australia you reckon? bitch, they close to us. (oh and thanks for saying “having a pretty landscape” most ignorant americans think that NZ is a third world country full of slums….)

        • Blah

           America is a third world country full of slums, but it has Disney and Burgers

      • Xxx

        This couldnt be further from the truth, hollywood film like half there movies out here. NZ almost lost the Hobbit untill a secret agreement was made (this was covered heavily by the media here). They will get dotcom despite a judge actually following the law for once, its owed.

        • YARIGHT

          and your point is what …..cause its cheap and htey dont have to pay what unions demand elsewhere ?

          and what has hollywood done there in recent past few years thats a hit?
          zero and thats what they do invade your nation with a movie or tv series dmeand laws then leave and screw your nation ….

          fail utter fail.sad when a canadian govt person is more worried about a person opening a package with a severed human foot then the person WHOM the foot belonged too?

        • kiwi13

          Yes you are right. If the judge won’t play ball our right wing government will change the law just as they did with the Hobbit movie. 

      • Anonymous

        Lemme see. New Zealand has kiwifruits, apples, grapes, sheep, cows, tourism, and judges with balls, sounds great to me.

      • YARIGHT

        really what has hte uk to offer me as a citizen for value in canada? NO really other then over paying over priced garbage syfy channel torrent downloads and now that sanctuary is cancelled what have you left to offer ….WWE? haha i watched an ep of it …what a joke it is now. Rowdy rowdy piper does more action in movies then the entire WWE for my mind.

        • Anonymous

          YARIGHT, can you please speak in an intelligible manner? 

    • Zippin2

       OMG, someone else who knows no history….fool

  • Dhdhd

    Nice.

    As a US citizen thiis whole thing sickens me- Isnt it SUPPOSED to be the USA who espouses “Freedom”, “Justice” and “Fair Play”? 

    We are becoming the “Empire” of the World, exerting our will on our neighbors and stripping them of their rights and freedom.

    The USA is a Police State and has been for some time (But people are waking up)- Good luck Kim.

    • The guy

      *Bro-fist*

    • YARIGHT

      dont worry the next president is strapped with the debt dildo and your all boned and copyright wont save you it was a bad move and trickle down dont and never worked aka bush thus th ebush /obama way has failed. 

    • MICROSURF

      If you want to really KNOW how true that is…and I warn you…before you google her name and/or book name and read the comments at amazon for a book that has been virtually banned by FBI, et al…. see Sibel Edmonds explains why she wrote Classified Woman: The Sibel Edmonds Story and shares some anecdotes as she encountered corruption and espionage in the FBI’s Language Unit. 

      • Microsurf

        btw, after reading those comments, I woke up to why the Whole World is turning into a shyte hole.  No moral compass nor leadership from the worlds largest economy has let every other gov off the hook to behave morally.

  • Jason

    That’s it, im moving to new Zealand.

    • Trolololol

      Immigration restrictions are pretty high. My rich, business-owning cousin has been trying to move there and start a business for a few years, and they’re still not convinced to make him a citizen. I guess they don’t want American trash corrupting them. :)

      • Will

        I’ll swap my NZ citizenship for a green card :p

      • Danny

        My mate moved to NZ with no issues. Obviously helps to be British.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=598567492 Yann Miller

         I’ve got enough points to move. Qualifications/experience in the areas of skills shortage help.

      • Rob

        Funny because I have a Russian guy I work with who has just been accepted to move to New Zealand to start an IT company.  Immigration NZ welcomed him with open arms! 

    • http://www.facebook.com/rayraynz Ray Taylor

       We would love to have you.

      We dont let the americans bring nuclear powered ships into our waters, and we dont let them take our billionares.

      And to the person that said this case will go on for years… After a while, someone in our court system says hold on, this case is costing the new zealand tax payer xyz and it will suddenly speed up without diverting justice.

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  • Anonymous

    I find this amusing that this article is on “The Illuminati.net”. (If you want to check it out- http://the-illuminati.net/news/megaupload-wins-crucial-evidence-disclosure-battle-with-us-govt)

  • Seltox

    Someone buy that judge a beer.  The comment about how the extradition process could have just been an administrative one – and how that’s just not cool – is a kick to the gonads for how the US usually works.  They seem to be used to “We want that person.  Gimme.”  with a response of “At once, great and mighty leader!”.. But now a judge is making them actually prove what they’re claiming?!  Preposterous!

    • Will

      Judge Harvey is great. He wrote a book (or several) on “Internet Law” in NZ.

  • Anonymous

    Get it richt up ye, great news!

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  • Anon

    I would laugh if the case is thrown out and Kim moves to china where any request for extradition would be a  joke.
    I am just waiting to see what he does to America in the future after all they have done to him and his family. It could get very interesting indeed. Especially as he has billions to use in any fight be it in court or on the internet.
    Was he not in the process of starting to give musicians a better deal than the studios ever have. We will see in the near future i am sure.

    • anon

      Ummm..  Kim Dotcom doesn’t have billions dude..  Many millions yes, but Billions?  I don’t think so.  Currently, all of Kims assets have been seized by the NZ government, and only a small portion of his cash has been returned to him to pay for his legal defense and other day-to-day expenses.  Please, let’s stick to the facts and not make schtuff up.  :-)

      • John Emsey

         The NZ Government did not seize his assets, the NZ Judiciary did. Here in NZ (unlike the USA) there is a difference between the Judiciary and the Government.

    • YARIGHT

      of trust me when it gets tossed the united hackers assoication will back him up on any help he requires to get back up and running and stay that way.
      call it my way a saying the fbi and us govt needs to start backing the fuck off…

      look at what happened in canada someone sent a foot and hand in the mail to the federal govt….people are angry real angry i gather ….and it will get worse.

  • Abe Lincoln: woot master

    The US wants to treat Kim Dotcom as a enemy combatant civilian. That way they can lock Kim up without charging him.

    • YARIGHT

      MUSIC OF MASS LISTENING OH NO

  • Anonymous

    “The U.S. Government objected to the request arguing that Megaupload doesn’t have the right to disclosure in the extradition process, but Judge Harvey disagreed. ”
    Kiss My Dog’s Butt US Government.You have abused our Constitution and our Laws of Due Process just to ruin this man and his Company.I hope he is set free and I hope he can even sue your butt.You do not have the Right to spit in our Judicial System’s Face.We have one Law in the USA and it is the same for everyone.
    What is next…………..US Government try and make this an NSA State Secret or something !

    • YARIGHT

      fuck the nsa , fbi dhs and every other 3-4 letter acronym they can dream up….

  • Anonymous

    I always say, “It’s all about the liabilities!” 

    Corporate Copyright Holders and their private and governmental counterparties are running around like demented hamsters trying to write new law that will first and foremost insulate them from the multi-trillion dollar liabilities that are sure to come with their copyright enforcement actions. 

    They can afford to posture and laugh for the time being. 

    Consider:  The American Tort Bar still thinks of Medical Malpractice and Pharmaceutical Companies as the pot of gold at the end of the litigation rainbow. 

    How long will that last?  It’s already past history, assuming that at least one American litigator is intelligent enough to read  The New York Times. 

    Right there, in the middle of all the news that’s fit to print, that litigator will discover three questions with one answer that will convince him that his days of suing Doctors for a few paltry billions of capuccino money are done forever. 

    Question #1:  Who has the Money?  Answer:  Corporate Copyright Holders and their counterparties!! 

    Question #2:  Who has embarked on a scorched earth campaign that will disembowel innocents?  Answer:  Corporate Copyright Holders and their Counterparties!! 

    Question #3:  Who has no Immunity from Liability?  Answer:  Corporate Copyright Holders and their Counterparties!! 

    Finally, who has been (almost) first to suffer multi-billion dollar, perhaps incalculable, damages yet pending judicial review?  Answer:  Kim Dotcom and MegaUpload!! 

    Why can’t this be a case of He who laughs last laughs best? 

  • Yesssir

    I still see http://www.megaupload.net is for sale…hmmm

    • Anyone

      it’s Kim Dotcom, not Kim Dotnet

  • Fanden

    So many accusations and none of them are true. Kim ran a legal business where one could save files. That’s ALL he did.

    The fact that the US government believes they can do whatever the fuck they want, not even having to prove that Kim is guilty, is mindblowing. The US government is merely a criminal with too much power.

    Too bad MegaUpload had to suffer such a setback. However, all the free advertisement they have gotten lately will surely see them return on top fast. Perhaps even stronger. Just like the censorship of TPB made the amount of visitors skyrocket.

    Good luck Kim, this is great news!

    • Anon

      Of course, but unfortunately for MegaUpload there site wasn’t as resilient as that of TPB and because of the fact that Kim Dotcom tried to play things the “correct” way by honoring DMCA requests, it bit him in the ass.

      I say the future MegaUpload should say FUCK the DMCA process alltogether and go rougue just like the TPB.  That would make me smile.

      • FBI

        But ALWAYS use servers in Virginia (a Hosting Friendly State)
        :)
        :)
        :)
        :)

  • 7seven85

    Eat that US !! Go Kim !!

  • Jimmyriddle

    next he’ll be called a rapist or a terrorist by the good old U-S of a

    • KimSungSexDotCom

      We have irrefutable EVIDENCE that Kim Dot(Sung)Com had SEX with Adrian Lamo INSIDE a Washington DC Airport Restroom. 
      (and we’re keeping the money too)

      • FBI

        SHIT …  I mean the FBI has irrefutable EVIDENCE that Kim Dot(Sung)Com had SEX with Adrian Lamo INSIDE a Washington DC Airport Restroom.
        (and we’re keeping the money too)

        • FBI

          But the case against MEGAUPLOAD is NOT about money. 
          It’s about AMERICAN IDEALS and TRUE DEMOCRACY! 
          (and Michelle’s WAR ON OBESITY!) 

          Fat is the New al-Qaeda. 
          DIE KIM DIE!

  • anon

    The US (so-called) Justice department are worse than the bandits in the movie, “Treasure of the Sierra Madre”:
    “Evidence? We don’t need to show you no stinking evidence.”
    Kudos to Judge Harvey for standing up for basic rights and shame on Judge Purdy in the UK for the judgment in the TV Shack case.

  • Desu1

    Looks like it’s time for the MPAA to throw around some money and get judge Harvey replaced for his absurd respect for law. 

    • YARIGHT

      cant its the law there disclosure or you cant admit it later. and thus the case fails. simple rule of most civilized law. hes not a terrorist so …ya cant go that route….

      • Desu1

        or is he?

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  • Guest

    Weird, using evidence to decide the outcome instead of just doing everything the MAFIAA/US gov/media guys ask.
    They might even respect due process next time, but I doubt this will last.

  • YARIGHT

    ITS CALLED DISCLOSURE YOU AMERICAN BONEHEADS.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Agreed. That is present even in OUR system of law, so I don’t understand why they thought that they could avoid disclosure.

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    Omg, yet another sane judge and again there is no “Like” button. Fuck
    Anyways, case is falling off piece by piece and that’s great. Just about time us trash And lobbyists understands that it will not always be as they want it

  • Master X

    Kim isn’t a US citizen, therefor no rights that US citizens have apply to him.

    • Theonlyone

       US citizens only have rights when the government wants them to have rights these days anyway.

  • Anomnomnom

    YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • FBI

    I therefore order that there NOT be disclosure of the documents set out in the  appendix to this judgement.  Such disclosure is NOT to be made within 21 days of the  date hereof.  I DO NOT expect counsel to liaise and discuss upon the way in which  disclosure may (the FUCK NOT) be provided but I would NOT imagine that given that  most (NONE) of the information should NOT be in electronic form (encrypted so KIM  DOUCHE.COM can’t read it) that a form of electronic (KimNotWinningDotCom  Encryption) disclosure will NOT take place. 

    David J. Harvey  District Court Judge (NOT for Long)

  • Anonymouses

    Yeahh!!!!  finally a country with a judge that has backbone for once!!!!  (even thought its my countries own government do thing this… which is corrupted to hell and back… no matter who i elect into office.. Is it me or is every politician elected into offices like that sing a nice song to the ppl then bends over which direction the money is coming from to receive it in their asses.) least the judge is playing the court case fair!!! like a true judge should!!!  Don’t get me wrong Kim dot com is a shady person with many corrupt ways himself but his case is setting a precedence for future media banks, you would call it i guess, that are targeted by the communistic or fascist copyright groups who’s greed almost surpasses the worlds oil companies… So hopefully he win’s his case against the US.

  • Zagnut7777

     
    Can anyone here erase that bullshit DOJ seizure screen off of Megaupload.com

    and replace it with something else? I’m sick of looking at it every time I follow

    a dead link and since what the USA did was illegal it’s a travesty to have it stay up.

    Is it even possible to get rid of it? No idea how it would be done but it needs to go.

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  • Donald Duck

    No problem here. Dotcom and his criminal enterprise will be starved to death by the US Dept of Justice. Ho hum, move on people, nothing to see here.

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  • Test

    I don´t like him,but: GO GO KIM!

  • tonyj

    It’s over, the MPAA has lost this round. Now you will see activist coming out of the woodwork exposing and illuminating the DOJ acting in the behest of the CEO of MPAA Chris Dodd, a lobbyist with close ties to the Government.  This will no doubt embarrass Obama who ran on a platform of keeping the influence of lobbyist outside the Government.

  • Noname

    This is why America wants ACTA & TPP to pass if I’m correct they don’t need to go to court for this and will be able to take down sites anywhere around the world.

    • me

      That’s also why they want to force the 3-strikes regime onto everybody else: an administrative procedure with no judicial overview (hadopi-style).

  • PelouzeTF

    Fucking renegade judge. No hookers and blow for you.

  • Anonymous

    this is great news! it’s about time the US law enforcement was brought down a few pegs and made to realise they are NOT the world police and do not have the right to run rough shod over anyone and everyone, wherever they please without taking the full consequences for making false accusations, let alone false arrests, made even worse by the way the raid on the ‘Dotcom’ residence was executed. i sincerely hope that the person behind this disgraceful exhibition of an abuse of power, power that wasn’t had, is exposed and charges duly brought against them!
    one thing i didn’t see mentioned (may have missed it, so correct me if necessary) is the HDD Kim’s lawyers want access to, especially the ones that were illegally taken to the US. any news on that front?

  • Mm

    THE DAY MEGAUPLOAD COMES BACK!!!
    Glad to have the old gui back btw…
    DOUBLE JOY!

  • FuzzyDuck

    Can’t wait for the USA to be forced to pay compensation to Kim Dotcom.

    Kim should file charges against the US and have US assets seized awaiting trial. Starting with all US assets in New Zealand.

    Then get an international arrest warrant against the FBI agents and Hollywood executives for “conspiracy to destroy a New Zealand company and resident”, “providing false witness”, “racketeering” (attempting to steal Dotcom’s money) and “conspiracy to racketeer”.

  • Guest

    When this is all over and Kim wins do you think he will be able to sue the FBI for destroying his business? He deserves compensation. Can he get it?

  • Whack_a_mole

    Itn’t it funny how quickly Mediafire has replaced Megaupload. Mediafire have been given a gift from the FBI. Think how much more money they can make now that their main competitor has been destroyed.

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    Justice is finally being served for once.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, this is great news!

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  • yep

    Step 1: Judge receives a visit
    Step 2: Dotcom is extraditedto the US

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      I seriously doubt that is going to happen. Judges are usually ex-police or ex-prosecutors who have ‘balls of iron’ when it comes down to it.

      You try to ‘give them a visit’, you are going to leave with an ass full of buckshot.

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  • Anonymous

    Someone needs to give Dotcom’s lawyers a huge high-five.

    • Anonymous

       Someone needs to give this judge who hasn’t been corrupted by all these copyright trolls a high five.

      • Anonymous

        this too.

  • KevH

    Now if only the UK government would do the same. Unfortunately we have a new extradition treaty with the US that now means extradition is usually just a matter of procedure. In the past, much like this case, the US would have had to present evidence of wrongdoing in a British court. Since the new treaty that is no longer the case and a UK court no longer has the right to demand the US produce all evidence against an accused. That’s why recent cases where extradition to the US has been fought are usually on medical grounds now.

  • Anonymouse

    Well I’m getting the feeling that he may get off if he does he has grounds to sue.

  • andou

    good luck, Kim Dotcom. They want to arrest Kim Dot Com without proofs… If they can, then there is no independence in other countries, all depends on US will!!!

  • Yesssir

    wow and http://www.megaupload.net is still for sale!

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  • Anonymous

    As things are going, Copyright infringement is not an excuse for the money laundering and extortion charges but quite the opposite. The criminal charges are the excuse to file an extradition request, all for the sake of a civil copyright trial. They want MU to be where they can sue him, whatever the means.

  • foff

    I hate to say it but despite a win which looks probable.  Even if he was extradited Ibelieve or not the case is not a slam dunk here.  I doubt megaupload will ever come back.  As one judge already said the case cannot be tried in US courts.  There are two issues here.   What is not clear is if the case is against the corporation or against Kim dotcom personally.  I am sure KIm like the rest of us downloaded stuff off of megaupload which is what his personal computers may contain but that does not constitute and crime.  Even if he did upload a file or two as a test then deleted it, that would be a very minor infringement case and none of the other charges make any sense.  There have been cases where a site admin has uploaded stuff to get a site going but in the case of megaupload and especially Kim that was not necessary.

    On the corporate side while some of the policies like affiliate programs may have been seen to encourage infringement I have never seen a case where the cyberlocker has uploaded a posted copyrighted material or where they have actually suggested it.
    The bottom line is I am not a lawyer but I agree with what has been said and that is that the criminal charges are a gross misapplication law.  There simply is no crime on personal or corporate level here that fits those statues.

    Let say the US fails to extradite Kim dotcom and the case is abandoned.  It would take years for the equipment to be returned.  A lot would be lost and disappear and a lot more would accidentally be destroyed.  So Kim would have to start Megaupload again from scratch.  Most people after dealing with the stress of law enforcement action for years after being exonerated will abandon any activities that led to it.  Kim will look for other internet businesses that are less risky.

    Megaupload is probably a distant memory as are the other filelockers that gave up but those that have survived will do fine as long as they tread carefully.  

    • government for sale

      kickstarter anyone?

  • YARIGHT

    fuck the fbi btw just had to troll that one and ive done your asses before and ill do it again if you ever illegally attack a canadian website..take that and eat on it

  • Nope

    Does New Zealand have different rules when it comes to disclosure of evidence? One would think in order to properly defend yourself against the allegations you would have access to the material used for the allegations before the trial started…

    • Luke

       New Zealand simply bends over and takes it from America like a champ. Plain and simple.

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  • question

    boo hoo, it’s our government. so who the fuck is in charge then.
    get some balls & a new govt.

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  • kiwi13

    As a Kiwi it’s pleasing to see that our judiciary won’t be bullied by the US authorities, unlike our government and police.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rayraynz Ray Taylor

     We like talented people. To move to NZ and become a citizen, we only allow a certain amount of people each year, but if you have talent and that talent can help us as a country (economy) like if you have wealth and are investing to start a company that will provide local jobs, then yes you are welcomed with open arms.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rayraynz Ray Taylor

     A judge, just like any other NZ citizen or politician is legally allowed to hire the services of a hooker.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rayraynz Ray Taylor

     He probably wont.
    IF he wins his extradition request and successfully defends it then i doubt he would want to step foot in the USA

    Basically this just means he can see what they are going to use against him so he can defend himself. He still has to do the actual defending. This means he can stay in NZ but would probably get arrested if he went into the USA

  • http://www.facebook.com/rayraynz Ray Taylor

     He can sue for compensation from the NZ government but we dont really call it suing – its a much more simplified and realistic process.

    He was in NZ with limitations- he couldnt buy property over a certain value etc unless he lived here for 2 years etc. which could make it difficult. He would probably have to travel to the USA to sue the government there but upon entering the country he would probably be arrested

  • http://www.facebook.com/rayraynz Ray Taylor

     Yes you get to see the evidence so you can defend yourself. The issue here is that the judge has said that if they are extraditing him to the USA for trial, then the judge needs to decide if he should go through that trial itself rather than if he is just to be extradited.
    Because the evidence is being held in the USA, the USA government is arguing that they shouldnt have to send it to NZ. So even if he cannot defend being extradicted, he is still now going to have a copy of all the evidence to prepare his defence in the USA

  • http://www.facebook.com/rayraynz Ray Taylor

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  • Anon

     From a NZ government website.

    Judge David Harvey has been a District Court Judge for 13 years.
    He has been involved with computers for 21 years and teaches the Law and
    Information Technology course at the Faculty of Law at Auckland University. He has written widely on Law and Internet topics.

    Seems like the court picked the right guy for the job.

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