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MPAA / RIAA Ponder Suing Persistent BitTorrent Pirates

In the coming months U.S. Internet providers will begin to warn and punish copyright infringers. Since the “six strikes” plan was announced, a lot has been said about the temporary disconnections and throttled connections subscribers might be subjected to. But there is an even scarier outlook for persistent BitTorrent pirates, as the MPAA and RIAA have negotiated the right to demand the details of repeat infringers should they decide to take legal action.

runnigLater this year, the Center for Copyright Information (CCI) will start to track down ‘pirates’ as part of an agreement all major U.S. Internet providers struck with the MPAA and RIAA.

The parties agreed on a system through which copyright infringers are warned that their behavior is unacceptable. After six warnings ISPs may then take a variety of repressive measures, which include slowing down offenders’ connections and temporary disconnections.

While all parties are keen to stress that the system is set up to educate, and that the privacy of Internet subscribers is guarded, there is some worrying language in the agreement that has been overlooked thus far.

As part of the deal, ISPs have agreed to share progress reports. These reports include a variety of statistics, including the number of warnings that are sent out, and how many frequent offenders there are. Nothing out of the ordinary thus far, but that changes when we read the following sentence:

“The Content Owner Representatives [MPAA / RIAA] or any other member of the Participating Content Owners Group may use such reports or data as the basis for seeking a Subscriber’s identity through a subpoena or order or other lawful process. For the avoidance of doubt, the Parties agree that the Content Owner Representatives may share such reports with the other members of the Participating Content Owners Group..”

In other words, the MPAA, RIAA and all of its members may use these progress reports to take their own actions against persistent BitTorrent pirates. This sheds an entirely different light on the educational “six-strikes” scheme.

Repeat infringers are not just at risk of having their connections throttled, they can also find themselves dragged to court by the MPAA or RIAA. So much for safeguarding the privacy of subscribers.

The potential legal action is cited again later in the agreement when it discusses what happens after users receive their sixth warning.

“The Participating ISP will, however, continue to track and report the number of ISP Notices the Participating ISP receives for that Subscriber’s account, so that information is available to a Content Owner Representative if it elects to initiate a copyright infringement action against that Subscriber.”

This “action” the document refers to is legal action. Interestingly, if we look at an early draft of the agreement that was made public through a FOIA request, the term legal action is used. Presumably, this was changed to prevent any alarm bells from going off.


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While the above is no certainty that the MPAA and RIAA will sue BitTorrent users, they wouldn’t have put the language above in the agreement if it’s not being considered. This is worrying, much more so than the “six strikes” warning system itself.

Time will tell why the RIAA and MPAA put in this option to sue, and how they are going to capitalize on it.

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  • http://twitter.com/meekcritic Meek Critic

    Since this agreement has only been made with the major ISP’s, doesn’t this mean that these major ISP’s might lose a lot of their customers to smaller ISP’s?  Do most people in the U.S. have an option to sign up with a smaller ISP or are most areas dominated by a few large companies?

    • Alaxfreak

      they would probably lose a lot of money when people drop their speeds.  I mean, if that happened to me, i see no point in keeping my 30mbit to which i pay $30 more than the lowest plan.  If like thousands of people drop their connection speed, they probably lose revenue.  

      • Linda Taylor

        as the vote goes to the party that has the majority of the votes. http://DemoforFrank.blogspot.com

      • http://www.born2model3d.com/ Aditya

         You pay 30$ for 30 mbps!!!!!!!
        Wow! Thats cheap… I pay 30$ for 1mbps :(
        India, Y u no developed :(

        • Anon

           He actually said $30 more than the lowest plan :P  Not $30 flat.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/L2FW55JCG4NNVE2CCP5336XJRE Cheese!

          That’s still a lot for 1MB.
          We pay $55 for 30MB.

        • http://1tl.gr/Io Blanche Kendrick

          what ya bet we shed another 500K accounts right there. http://DemoforFrank.blogspot.com

        • Guest

          Sorry to say you that, but I pay 11 euro for 90 Mbit/s.
          East Europe

        • PlatinumC

          22€ for 50mbit and 25€ for 100mbit in here Estonia.

      • http://lazycash1.com/ Anonymous

        my roomate‘s sister makes $82/hour on the laptop. She has been out of work for six months but last month her check was $19771 just working on the laptop for a few hours. Read more on this site

        ?????? (Click On My Name For Link)

    • YARIGHT

      Canada
      2006 – 24 million user net accounts 
      by 2011 cbc reported there are 21 million user net accounts
      crtc ordered ot give costs increases , what ya bet we shed another 500K accounts right there.

      and this copyright law will kill another 500K of them as people get sued and forced to pay 5000 dollar fines.

      then you will see the major isps ask and whine for lower caps to keep the current profits and inch prices far above inflation to point millions more will go fook it.

      im gonna go get dial up and let it encrypted download 24/7 for the next 20 years.

      • Spencer greff

        The CRTC is already evil enough as it is. I’ve seen many small ISP’s lose their fortune in courts (trying to provide faster speeds for lower prices) to these ex-C level Bell bastards. I couldn’t imagine what they will do with CISPA killing revenue.

    • Mat_t

      most areas are not only dominated by a few companies (which wouldn’t be an issue) but have anticompetitive monopoly presence usually in the form of franchise agreements along with giant rate hikes year over year.

    • SwitchISP

       Time for Torrentfreak to start mentioning ISP’s who haven’t sold out their customers. Who are they so people can switch?

      • Laika

         it was listed in the comments by Laika, see prev tf article listed above on side verizon (however they recently after they talked about the us how they voluntarily comply with the above, will not give your details anymore see whiley and sons case,

        There are a lot of names, but it boils down to the big five mentioned
        (AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, and Verizon) and
        their subsidiaries. Most of the subsidiaries of the four that aren’t
        AT&T have the parent company in their names, and most of the
        subsidiaries of AT&T have “Bell” in theirs.

        EDIT: I realized it was easier just to put the full list in here. From the source above:

        The Participating ISPs are the following: SBC Internet Services, Inc., BellSouth
        Telecommunications, Inc., Southwestern Bell Telephone Company, Pacific Bell
        Telephone Company, Illinois Bell Telephone Company, Indiana Bell Telephone
        Company, Incorporated, Michigan Bell Telephone Company, Nevada Bell Telephone
        Company, The Ohio Bell Telephone Company, Wisconsin Bell, Inc., The Southern New
        England Telephone Company, and BellSouth Telecommunications, Inc. (the AT&T Inc.
        companies); Verizon Online LLC, Verizon Online LLC – Maryland, and Verizon Online
        Pennsylvania Partnership (the Verizon companies); Comcast Cable Communications
        Management, LLC; CSC Holdings, LLC (solely with respect to its cable systems
        operating in New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut) (the Cablevision systems); and
        Time Warner Cable Inc.

        Meow Fuck the powers that be, share the files dot com
        7 people liked this.
           
        Laika 1 week ago in reply to Laika

         tf just listed some before, but the above (source)  is from Appendix A of the Memorandum of Understanding (pdf )http://www.copyrightinformatio…

      • Laika

         I listed it here t orrentfreak.com/how-scary-is-the-us-six-strikes-anti-piracy-scheme-120605/ and below, keep up ………..

    • FreeBSD

      most areas dominated by a few large companies.

    • Anarket

      You’re probably correct.  This country’s government is bullied and pushed around by large corporations because politicians are paid to get different laws passed.    We need to change this. 

    • Sketch

      yeah we have many options to choose from in any given area, but the major isp’s are the fastest, you can bet if my isp sends me any letters im gonnna wipe my arse with it before i take it to the office and shove it up someones ass……then i move to the smaller isp.  VPN OR DIE

    • Decimus

      It may lose them business.  But I think the main point focuses on MPAA’s and RIAA’s “tough decision” on whether or not to sue repeating file sharers.

      Once people find out that their ISP is helping the MAFIAA by providing their contact information, either “an IP is not a person” will keep coming up in court or the ISP’s that comply with the 6-strikes program will be substituted for a more loyal company.

      Large companies dominate the market, but there are typically options.  It’ll probably take a loss in customers before ISP’s realize that working with the MAFIAA isn’t in their best interests.

  • Ikjloij

    Good for local businesses but no local ISP will stand up to the RIAA / MPAA especially since you can bankrupt your competition with legal fees.

    They’ll always be file sharers even after we are dead, don’t do anything out of fear but you can protect yourself if you feel like you need to such as utlizing VPNs and other methods which keeps you in the shadows.

  • ACTA_FOOL

    “Bill C-11: Copyright Legislation And Digital Lock Provisions Face Opposition On Eve Of Passage In Canada”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/17/bill-c-11-copyright-modernization-act-canada_n_1603837.html?show_comment_id=162080040#comment_162080040
     

    • YARIGHT

      your late the bill passed the house today….nice your paying attention.
      OH and thank you green party and NDP for not even speaking about it period.

      IM NEVER VOTING AGAIN. LAWS ARE FOR THE RICH NOT THE PEOPLE .

      • http://www.facebook.com/philippesymons Philippe Symons

        Actually by not voting you make sure they can do whatever they want, as the vote goes to the party that has the majority of the votes.

        Just punish them on your next vote by voting for the ones that didn’t support this. (And make sure lots of other people do that as well)

        • ACTA_FOOL

           Yup that is true but I never voted before and I do regret it now but I know for sure  I will vote next time even though it’s too late.      : /

          I didn’t hear anything about it passing the house yet just,I heard it was suppose to today.. were you watching them on TV or read it somewhere?

        • Rockets

           If voting did shit, they’d outlaw that too. Even if it made a difference, the polls are rigged anyway, whether by brainwashed idiots voting “just because,” adding/destroying votes illegally, or just lying about it.

        • FreeBSD

          they can do whatever they want already.

        • YARIGHT

          why bother voting it looks like conservatives will just cheat and send you to the wrong polling stations anyhow like htey did with my vote last time….
          ya 
          thats right they cheated and 200 ridings are under investigation

        • Don’tKnowWhoToVoteFor,But

           @aabe7993eb2aad0e0c5f443f771bee24:disqus I don’t believe the elections in Canada are rigged. We use actual paper ballots, they are counted in the open with observers from the various parties in attendance (and that’s about 5 parties, not 2). Basically we have a paper trail of everything, and the poll workers are required to keep a copy for 6 months from the date of the election, in case a dispute should arise. I still am displeased with the direction our government has been taking towards our freedoms lately, but I do believe they won the election fairly, and most likely will be defeated fairly in the next election.

    • No1_2_u

      “Sieg Heil” to the supreme omnipotent overlord Harper!

      Why the fuck did Canadians vote this idiot a majority government; I will never know.

      • YARIGHT

        it looks more n more like we didnt …it looks like they cheated 
        google robocalls
        they used phone database of non supporters then sent everyone to the wrong polls to vote thus ensuring those votes didnt count and gave them a win

        its hte only way they got power 

  • Anonymous

    dont try to tell me that this isn’t/wasn’t expected, surely? since when have the entertainment industries ever been honest? they will do anything and everything to just get a conviction. that is the most important thing to them, more so even than the small amount of money involved, if any. you only have to look at how they began their operations, what they had to do and where they had to go to escape ‘copyright infringement’ charges of the day. they are the most dishonest bunch going. they rob their own artists of earnings using ‘Hollywood Accounting’ methods which also deprives the tax man of more money than file sharing ever could (not that the US IRS dept. would ever admit it!!). they call file sharers thieves and pirates. nothing describes the entertainment industries conduct better than those very terms!

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Well, in a CIVIL case, there isn’t a conviction, there is a judgement. No criminal record from this.

      That said, this does seem like a bit of an overreach by these companies with the issues I have brought up on a regular basis:

      1. An IP address is NOT the same thing as a specific person or even family, with Wi-Fi and easily tapped networks.
      2. It is darn easy to break into a Wi-Fi connection today. I personally did it to my connection as a ‘test’ of the ‘inability’ to do it that WPA2 supposedly has….. using instructions easily available online, it was very easy to do.

      • Nimski

        Explain that to the RIAA/MPAA.  If they get any IP of the account holder, they’ll call you a criminal that’s costing them millions and killing artists left and right. They could careless if you did the infringing because IP = You right?

      • Anonymous

         ’in a CIVIL case, there isn’t a conviction, there is a judgement’

        my apologies for the incorrect terminology. the effect, however, is the same. they win, we (someone) lose. and you can bet your bottom dollar how it will be reported in the press and other media. hailed as a great victory against copyright infringement, how millions of dollars and countless jobs were saved because of it, as always!

        • YARIGHT

          sits looking at all this encrypted stuff and wonders what most do ….oh i forgot my password to it….
          have a nice day and counter sues for slander and defamation  of character and because it takes 2 trillion years ot decrypt my civil case gets heard and i become nicely rich all thanks to there stupid behaviour 

          WOOT i then rent 200 seedboxes at 10 gigabit speed and lend them with encryption to all my friends “to do nightly backups of there business data”

          have a nice day form MURDER INC.

  • thedude321

    Have these idiots nothing better to do than sue random people?

    I mean seriously man! I bet if they spent all this time and energy behind making better films that do not rely on the sexual appeal of their actors, they would do much better. And the films that do do well, the actors are pretty well off. So who all this fuss man?

    • Timo

       One word: MONEY!

  • Gang

    Message to the asshole managing the RIAA,MPAA, Sony, Time Warner, Universal and so forth and so on:

    Seriously go ahead! sue the “persistent pirates” Sue them and die. You fools!

    You see we are persistent gangsters and killers. We don’t care about your  copyrighted crap.   We care about your cars, your houses your money your lives. Since you stole everything anyway This is alright.

    While you turn your back to us attacking the defenseless like the coward and bullies you are we will kill you from the back.

    You fucked up the society, You made us,,face the consequences.

    GO AHEAD!

    • The guy

      Spoken like a true godfather.

    • blank

      i’ve got a pitchfork and torch that agrees with you. fools

    • Nick

      a single word : VPN

  • Guest

    Has someone compiled a list of the ISPs participating in this program? I would love to see people start to leave them for other ISPs. A company should lose customers and money if they hand off their customer’s private information.

  • foff

    It will certainly open the market to smaller ISP’s.  It will be a good marketing point  but in my area I have mainly two big ISP’s.  I can easily switch back and forth and each time I am basically a new customer.  The other effect in the areas where customers can switch will be a lot of switching and in the areas where there is no choice just disconnect for a few days then reconnect and you will be a new customer.  The only downside are the connection fees but that will be a lot less then a possible law suit.

  • techanon

    I was already especting this kind of developement. Seems my prediction was acurate. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Chicken8Knuckles Charles Tucholski

    Down with MPAA/RIAA!
    If your blocked use http://www.mipnow.com also info on how to surf the internet privately and anonymously. Global ISP search engine, ISP Blacklist, DNS server list, huge list of VPNs and more!!

  • Vincent Giannell

    I have a feeling both MPAA and RIAA are the ones who will get sued by BitTorrent for this action.

  • Anthony Souls

    People give the RIAA/MPAA power through financial means: purchases and so forth. This money is then used against the people in order to dictate law and etc… Therefore, unless people are willing to boycott movies at theaters and purchases of movies, they need to stop complaining. 

    Complaining without any action isn’t going to accomplish anything. If you really want to hurt the RIAA/MPAA, get all your friends/relatives to boycott the movies being released in the theaters and from purchases online/stores. If they continuously lost millions upon millions of actual dollars through alienating their viewers, they would be forced to change, or go out of business. 

    However, we all know that people aren’t motivated enough, impassioned enough to stand up against injustice until it becomes intolerable, and by then, it will be too late. People lack the mentality to deprive themselves of something that they crave; they lack the resolute to engage and work as a group for a common good, lest it be something blown out of control. 

    Therefore, until people try to change the copyright laws on the books: Copyright laws being unconstitutional as it is as it violates the limited time clause in my book; copyright laws being unconstitutional as it is as it hinders progress of society for personal gains and halters growth; copyright laws being unconstitutional in the sense that they don’t adhere to the original intent and purpose. Until the laws change, they will just escalate with new stipulations until it becomes a dictatorship law. 

    Moreover, unless people are willing to do more than talk, we are doomed to suffering the motivations of those that are willing to act upon their agendas. The RIAA/MPAA are acting upon theirs through money and trying to dictate law. What real actions is anyone doing to stop their beliefs from coming to fruition? Indeed. 

    People must not really have a concrete basis for their beliefs, if they aren’t willing to do anything productive towards that end, besides complaining about it on online forums and hoping someone else does something to stop it. 

    Something to think about, Take care,

    • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

       the only actions that can or could be taken is

      1. smart people take legal action against riaa/mpaa for some clever legal reasons that finally shut them up.

      2.the governments finally force both riaa/mpaa and others less powers than now and force them to come up with hard proof of all claims

      3.people within the industry start standing up against them, as ive stated on my twitter account, all the mpaa service is, a rating system, everything else has happened due to finances and being pushy. so when a business fails to have business coming to them or finacial support, they stop being successful and stop being a business.

      • Anthony Souls

        All of what you listed requires another party to enact it: passing the buck. 

        1. Legal actions won’t be effective as long as current law supports it, which is why I suggest the current copyright system be declared unconstitutional and limited in scope. It’s contrary to the original intent. Or, that current copyright law be changed to fit the new digital age in a non-dictatorial fashion. 

        2.  The government is on the side of the RIAA/MPAA, therefore they will only be forced to limit the power if The People demand it. Else, it’s just status quo, and additional stipulations and laws will be created to empower it. 

        3. People who are consumers dictates people in the industry’s financial wealth; so by boycotting products/services that supports the status quo, people are robbing them of the power that they use to enforce their agendas and carry on business.

        How much money would the movie industry loose if people boycotted just the theaters for a year? Unless they push the dates to a later time and make it up that way, they will be losing a considerable amount of money: x millions on x amount of movies would equal in the hundreds of millions of actual dollars lost just in the theaters. However, people aren’t motivated enough to do something that extreme. 

        4. All of this is academic, as long as current law validates the methods, and as long as people don’t protest it with actions and not just words, then The People are doomed to being controlled by their own inaction and the actions of others. 

        Take care,   

        • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

           you will find there are laws in place, its just that like many many cases before, it takes somebody to see the cases and wordings around such things and come up with a great defense.. just like the states, in the uk its been widely known the current copyright system and law is over 10 years out of date where even mp’s listen to music on every device and watch tv and film on every device where as by law, its illegal.

          you state government is on the side. well i bring up my point of gaining hard proof because thats whats recently in the last year been stated in the house of commons as they are getting fed up just like the media of the consistent bullshit claims and have only just started to grasp the fact  that people like FACT/RIAA/MPAA do actually lie.

          you state the people have the power, where as this really would work, but is literally impossible to do. yeah you may get 5% of the worlds population to stop, but the rest will still watch the music and tv shows even though most studios are connected to other studios as its parent and therefore the products are far reaching, which  as chris prillo stated, if you are going to say it, DO IT, but be warned, its not as easy as just not watching that blockbuster film or buying the single. if you want to place your foot on the ecosystem of the industries you would need to do the research , find out all the company connections and know the products and refuse to buy them. and that even includes your fuel etc.

          and you do realize that if and when people boycott the screens, the mpaa etc will instantly blame piracy, say we are fools and are destroying the life blood and risking jobs. they will NEVER blame themselves and will even insult us by blaming us… oh hang on chris dodd already did that :)

          the only ever way of change will happen, is when the people within government stop taking on money from the boss’s, start adjusting laws which are up to date, stop being blind to the one sided anti piracy reports and stop or reduce the powers that all anti piracy groups have.

          oh and when a case of copyright infringement can happen to somebody of a product that the lawyers are working for hold no rights to, yet is still allowed by a judge to go ahead and sue. you know that the justice system and copyright system is fucked.

      • YARIGHT

        slander and defamtion of character countersuit….for starters while your encrypted hard drive sits around cause you forgot your keypass. THEN you take hte CRIA/RIAA/MPAA to ocurt on a human rights violation that current copyright laws are CRUEL and UNUSUAL PUNNISHMENT add a few more charter violations…..
        and wella getting 1.5 years in jail for the new law cause you cant afford a 5000$ fine, when i could using aggrivated assualt get less time is proof the law is CRUEL and UNUSUAL….

  • Neb12

    these things do not give these folk to spy on my activties without a warrant.
    come on

  • YARIGHT

    ill say it the smartest ones are the ones they dont want to come at , because were often the most knowledgeable also about law and technology and that’s a combo they fear.

    NOT to mention we use the best tech available to hide activities….
    now if they mean dumb people that they keep catching doing crap unencrytped well go ahead weed out stupid from the net i welcome that….

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    What has to amaze us is the passivity of the ISP customers who will be the targets of this regime. 

    Why SHOULD Publicly regulated ISPs be able to arrogate to themselves by mere agreement with other ISPs the right to reveal the private information of Customers to adverse third parties in anticipation of sanctions without warrant? 

    Can Bill Collectors for Credit Card Companies demand the same previledges? 

    Can Disgruntled Spouses?  

    Will Hospitals be able to collude Terms of Service Agreements among Themselves allowing for the unregulated dissemination of Private Patient information? 

    Why NOT?…….Is ISPs Customer Information really less Private or less Important to Customers? 

    Are Hospitals less regulated?

    Would either Citizens or their Senators be sleeping in their beds till noon if Hospitals had agreed privately among themselves for the UNCONSENTED  transfer of Patient Information to Bill Collectors? 

    Exactly HOW is what ISPs propose to do in SIX STRIKES different? 

    Exactly how do complicit ISPs expect to avoid vast civil resistence and liability arrising from such Breech of Trust? 

    Above all, in the context of ALL these Questions, WHY THE HELL are ISP customers so deafeningly QUIET? 

    Perhaps this silence IS its own answer.  Sleep soundly enough, and you will surely wake up a Vassal.

  • Troll Shark

    This “six strikes” plan is going to be a colossal disaster. 
    There will be countless cases like this poor guy … 

    http://forums.comcast.com/t5/Customer-Service/Notice-of-Copyright-Infringement-REFUTED/td-p/1290453 

    Knucklehead also posted his IP Address 67.169.94.103 

    Like throwing blood in the Troll Shark Waters. 

    • Idiot Broad

      This is a clear violation of the 
      “Neglectful Use of Personal Computer article 210 of the Criminal Code” 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/L2FW55JCG4NNVE2CCP5336XJRE Cheese!

      Hey, thanks for re-posting his IP!

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    Who is surprised? Like I said before, after 6 you’re removed from program (like they promised) but your credentials are give to greedy corps to make money from you. Every person with at least a bit of brain assumed such an outcome 

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU3FP6ALBOYVUDR6Z7GUQYGY2Q Mike N

    i have decided to  either get a VPN or Netflix. If this happens i will drop comcast for revealing my info then move to CLEAR network if i have to. 

    • Guest

      Get a VPN. Don’t get Netflix because Netflix is their plan to turn you back to a ripped off unhappy customer… With Netflix, they have control over your media. What you watch, whats available and at what price they decide. Good luck

  • ken147

    Stuff like this pisses me the f**k off -_-

  • Jj33codestr

    Accept only encrypted connections in your bittorrent client, also change the port to one used by other common applications, like 22, 445, 25, 80, 443.

    Limit the seeding speed, vary the download times.

    And offcourse you can always use tunnels. :)

    Some easy steps to not let em know you are torrenting.

    No more “six strike” plan for you.

    SUCK MY BALLS YOU RIAA / MPAA ASSHOLES

    • Rekrul

       Accept only encrypted connections in your bittorrent client, also change
      the port to one used by other common applications, like 22, 445, 25,
      80, 443.

      That won’t do squat to protect your identity. The ISP isn’t spying on your connections, a separate company is joining BitTorrent swarms and recording IP addresses.

      Do you use uTorrent? Click on the Peers tab. See all those IP addresses? The copyright industry has better tools, but that’s basically what they do.

      Short of using a VPN, there’s no way to hide your IP address from anyone who joins the swarm for a particular file. It’s like asking someone to call you. To be able to do that, they need to know your number.

      • YARIGHT

        DPI can tell where you going so if that site has a fruit website with a giant penis on it then the isp cna hangout there all day as far as i care.

  • McCheezits

    Is this a joke? It’s still hilarious if it’s not.

    • Exclusive_Rights

       What makes this a massive joke to me is that all this was done voluntarily :(

  • Ophelia Millais

    My guess is they struck the word ‘legal’ instead of saying ‘legal or extralegal’. That is, the action may be a threatening letter / settlement demand, rather than a court filing, at least to start.

  • Andrew Lee

    I said this would happen a good while ago. This move is not to stop piracy it’s just a way for them to sue people with less issues and taking the court out of the mix to get personal contact data.

    We will see a lot of people being extorted before a lawsuit is ever filed.

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  • ofProto

    One word VPN

  • Rockets

    Have fun losing at least another 62.6 million dollars, asshats.

  • DarKPenguiN

    I have already canceled my Internet with Comcast and it should be gone this week. Starting in July I will be going to places with open WiFI and downloading/sharing the most popular movies out. I recommend you all do the same.

    Its going to suck without internet but an extra 8 dollars a month will help since I will no longer be billed.

    Lets let Mcdonals and Starbucks get their six strikes and sued during the first month… =)

    • DarKPenguiN

      *89 dollars lol

      • http://twitter.com/TPBGirl TPBGirl ™

        I was about to say, $8 internet? I want in on this! lol

    • Exclusive_Rights

      Mate you need internet. Even if its just for browsing. Can’t you find a lesser known supplier who isn’t going to hand over your details? And maybe get a VPN too. Boycott Comcast sure, they suck, just saying don’t let your self suffer.

    • buddha

       Comcast thingy in July was postponed I believe.

    • Anon1

      Lmao, pay 7 bucks a month for BTGuard and you’re set. No need to kill your internet completely.

      One does not simply…disable their internet. Oops 9gag is leaking again.

  • Temoi

    Just wait, someone will get a C&D letter from dling from mediafire/depositfiles/etc. Only attacking torrents my ass.

  • Guest

    Can’t you just change your IP number each time you get a strike?

    Only your ISP will know that your collection of IP numbers are yours, right? The third party monitoring agency won’t know that your old IP and new IP connect to the same computer, so it will assume that they belong to two different users.

    That said, the second paragraph does seem to imply that the monitoring agency already plans to comply with any “lawful” request for sharing user info … which is an enormous  violation of privacy since it hasn’t even seen a subpoena yet and we know such requests are often bogus and/or legally gray.

    • EricPost

      The ISP knows what IP address is assigned to which customer. This is the issue the ISPs are cooperating. Changing your IP address will do nothing. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5UFFAWM5BDC2OKHSZ46TYBUHI Grandpa

    I for one plan to not buy any movies unless they are 3D.  Cutting back should help.  If everyone did same the MPAA would get a message.

  • Me

    Pirates will be pirates. Dishonest thieves looking at not getting caught.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

      Shilling for trolls won’t get you anywhere around here.   And anyone who gets that many warnings and still allows themselves to be tracked almost deserves a suit for sheer stupidity.

    • Just

      I guess that you are describing the people in charge of the entertainment industry. Or could it be the bankers?

    • You

      noob troll

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  • dantorang

    lol, thats pretty funny when you think about it.
    Anon-Anon.tk 

  • Guest

    Typical MAFIAA tactics.
    They buy the politicians and bully other industries, get them to set up this ridiculous waste of everyone’s money like puppets with some harmless educational excuse for the public but it’s all part of some dirtier scheme.

    They are a bunch of lying entitled parasites that give nothing to real artists, hurt other more important industries and use legal warfare to destroy any legitimate opposition.

    What bothers me most is that all the ridiculous policies adopdet by the US are eventually forced everywhere else, the people of the US can’t handle their own crazy corporategovernment and no one can disagree with the US or you end like Cuba. Ok, only China can do it but everyone else is too small to have an opinion.

  • Phil Landry

    Maybe this will stimulate the growth of anonymous file-sharing. There is technology like Gnunet, that it allegedly resistant to censorship and is anonymous in it’s core principle. 

    • ScrewEwe2

      Sounds to me like I2P where all connected peers act as servers and the more you give, the more you get.

  • dglah

    Welcome to USCT (United States of Corruptions and Terrorism)
    Satan bless USCT

  • Dansith2705

    THINK ILL STICK THE BOOT AGAIN EH LOOK DANNY BOY I CAN SEE 2 CAPSLOCKS LIGHTS 1 ON MY LAPTOP 1 ON MY USB KEYBOARD mwhahaha WATS IT MATTER ANY MORE I PREDICT THE VAST MAJORITY ARNT GONNA SEE 2013 END OF DAYS IS IT FOR MOST OF US OH DEAR WAT A PITY WAT A SHAME SHUD HAVE NEVER PISSED OFF THE POWERS THAT BE AND IM DEFO NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYONE LIVING IN THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE OH WELL SHUD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WAT HAPPENS IN 2013 WHEN THE REST OF THE WORLD GETS WATS COMING TO THEM

  • http://twitter.com/TPBGirl TPBGirl ™

    How can we find out if our ISP is on the list?

    Remember when that website showed MPAA/RIAA/Politicians all over the world had downloaded movies, Dexter, etc, etc.. well all there excuses were… “Our IP was spoofed!”

    Whats good for the geese is good for the gander! :))

  • http://trucklicense.net/Get-CDL MikeJones

    they would probably lose a lot of money when people drop their speeds.
     I mean, if that happened to me, i see no point in keeping my 30mbit to
    which i pay $30 more than the lowest plan.  If like thousands of people
    drop their connection speed, they probably lose revenue. 

  • http://incentiveproperties.com/ property management Orlando

    I for one plan to not buy any movies unless they are 3D.  Cutting back
    should help.  If everyone did same the MPAA would get a message.

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  • GUEST

     This was RIAA/MPAA’s intentions from the get-go. Find the people via government resources/ISPs and sue sue sue sue sue…They don’t care who they sue as long as the $ comes with it. What a bargain they got there.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DE7JE7D2LQNGOPOW2BL7B7DZAA Everett

    just as Randall responded I’m in shock that anyone can profit $8669 in a few weeks on the internet. did you read this page (Click on menu Home more information)   http://goo.gl/izDSX   

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  • http://twitter.com/Power2All Power2All

    In my oppinion, the mpaa/riaa are copyright infringing the personal data of users.
    They didn’t have the users consent for using ther user details.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/L2FW55JCG4NNVE2CCP5336XJRE Cheese!

    How many hundreds of people are being sued already? Today?
    In other words, it never really ended, did it?

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  • DantoVang

    Here is a big Middle Finger Salute to the RIAA AND the MPAA lol
    Anon-Browser.tk

  • Hh

    F’ing idiots.. I can’t even find a place online to buy digital media with paypal (in  canada)

    Yet these f&*K heads are going above and beyond to bully people

    Get with the god damn times, I can download a movie in 10 minutes from someone not profiting, but you lazy pricks cant even offer a MODERN service

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  • Guest

    USA is really fascist country!

  • 62qpqpdue

    Anytime the internet community faces censorship or any attempt to block the flow of data, it always finds a way to route around the attempted censorship.  The ISP’s can call this what they want, but it is an attempt to regulate and censor what data you can send and receive.  The ISP’s do not seem to be concerned about all copyright holders, only those with the big money interests from the RIAA/MPAA types behind them.  The ISP’s and content industries are creating a temporary speed bump that will drive the creation of the next method to route around that speed bump.

     

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  • Jabrwky

    Stop going to the movies, stop buying music, stop buying RIAA & MPAA products so they can’t sue you with your won money — and Vote for the few honest congresspeople with integrity.  The Hollywood crowd are the ones funding Communism in the US. Listen to a.m. talk radio and support freedomworks, heritagefoundation, people like Herman Cain, Allen West, WalterEWilliams, and other good men.

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  • EricPost

    Time to develop the next generation of P2P network and/or system to exchange files

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  • Test

    Well it is possible to go from being a pirate to a paying customer. This paying customer will generate more goodwill and profits than any lawsuit. A gentle 6 strikes program would move the pirate into paying customer smoothly.

    The lawsuits just generate bad ill-will and get customers upset. A lawsuit deters ONE customer and angers the customer’s friends and buddies. And it doesn’t educate well either. There’s a latent hate for the industry instilled in the individual for life and that causes more harm to the industry.

    • Test

      Oh one more thing a buddy of mine got a dmca notice about d’l ing a tv series, it was a takedown note and he complied. And instead of going back to pirating it he went out and slowly bought all the box sets and made things right. Loaned me the 1st season and I also bought it. So, no ill-will was generated and we both spent a few hundred on legit products as they were made available. We also got a good quality disc as opposed to shit incomplete d’l files!

      So the 6-strikes program is a good thing. It also requires monitoring to ensure compliance, somehow.

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