Music Industry Orders BitTorrent Blackout
Written by Ernesto on February 23, 2009Throughout Europe, music industry lobbyists have tried to convince ISPs to block file-sharing sites, and not without success. The Irish ISP Eircom is the first to cave in to the pressure of the music industry, and without any argument will block all file-sharing related websites – starting with The Pirate Bay.
Last month, Eircom announced that at the behest of the music industry it will disconnect customers who are allegedly sharing copyrighted material. Initially the ISP planned to stand up for its customers in court. However, it didn’t have the courage of its convictions and the case was aborted. Capitulating to the music industry’s demands, Eircom agreed to start disconnecting those accused of illicit file-sharing.
But that wasn’t enough. Now the industry wants more and is ordering Eircom to block access to any sites it wants blocked. And it doesn’t end there.
Smelling blood, the music industry is ratcheting up the pressure and they are now demanding that all ISPs censor the Internet by blocking access to all file-sharing related websites (more info and the full letter here).
And the worrying news is it’s already a partially done deal. The Irish Recorded Music Association (IRMA) has already convinced Eircom to comply, and is warning the other Internet providers in Ireland that they should follow suit, or face legal action.
The first and primary target is The Pirate Bay. This comes as no surprise of course, as the music industry’s IFPI has already succeeded in blocking the largest BitTorrent tracker in Denmark, after which they attempted to do the same in Norway and Italy. In Italy the Internet providers initially complied, but this decision was later overturned in court.
As for the next targets for censorship – for which a list is currently being drawn up by Irma – this is how the industry’s scheme will work. Under the terms of an agreement between Eircom and Irma, Eircom will not oppose any court application, meaning that orders requesting the blockage of a particular website will be automatically granted. A spokesman for Eircom confirmed that Eircom ‘‘will not oppose any application [Irma] may make seeking the blocking of access from their network’’ to ‘blacklisted’ websites.
The other Irish ISPs are now facing legal action from the music industry if they don’t give in to IRMA’s demands within seven days. The ISPs are baffled by the aggressive approach by the music industry, and are calling for protection to prevent worse.
“We don’t support illegal activity on our network but this is an unprecedented agreement,” said Alex French of Ireland’s leading Wi-Fi service Bitbuzz. “Is the music industry planning to become Ireland’s de facto internet censor?”
So it seems. However, Eircom could be digging an even deeper hole for itself. By agreeing to censor the Internet at the behest of not the police, but a private and commercially driven organization, it has effectively dumped its own common carrier protection.
Furthermore, The Pirate Bay (or any other sites Ericom intend to block) have never been deemed illegal in Ireland. This has to be seen as a very worrying development. So, open the floodgates, everyone is going to want sites blocked soon and if you’ve got enough cash, it’s on the cards with Eircom. At the very least, let’s hope Eircom is going to make its list of banned sites public, along with their reasons for blocking each and every site, properly referenced under the law.
And let’s hope the rest of Ireland’s ISPs stand up for themselves.
Previously: Kiwis Delay Draconian File-Sharing Law
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128 Responses
Heh… Ill just move Isp and if the worst comes to the worst I will use a proxy
https, blam problem solved.
@2 – well not really!
Glad I don’t give money to that crap ISP.. although im sure myn is getting ready to do the same thing.. you never know.
Welcome to the world run by commercial organizations..
Make no mistake, it is by fact that we will live in a policed enslaved world if this continues.
Your freedom is melting away..
well then people will start switching isps, and whichever ones don’t block these sites will get more business.
Some private trackers are already moving to HTTPS I find in order to stop this nonsense. I can forsee the next step being a company with a lot of money asking Eircom to block all of its competitor sites. That’s likely where this is going. After all, online sharing of music through BitTorrent is nothing more than a competitor of the music industry.
looks like eirecom’s plan is to go out of business instead of fighting the music industry. no doubt political pressure will kill off this ‘agreement’ and tell the IRMA to piss off.
people will move to an ISP which isnt blocking or caving into the pressure from these guys, which proves again the music industry are fighting a losing battle
Could some brave Irishman please sue these idiots? I don’t think it’s possible for any private entity to demand the blockade of dual-use websites just because they are too dumb to evolve their business models. I’d use the Open Source argument since you can’t get your legal software through filesharing sites anymore.
This is ridiculous to say the least.
this fuckin gay
Eircom should stand up to themselves
boy ireland sucks , haha isn’t that where bill gates is from.
figures home of suck azz
I’m looking forward to see NTL’s and BT’s veiw on there request to block sites.
There are a little larger then eirecom and opertae in many areas other then Ireland and cant see them areeging to alter there biz plans and systems just for there to suite the needs of IRMA…
Simple blocks dont work anyways look at hpw many have tried else where -lol
@7
Do you really think everyone with an internet connection uses bittorrent? I don’t know any numbers but I would guess that it is less than 20% (random #) that would be affected by a block like this. And most of this 20% will know how to use a proxy to go around the block…
#11
Regardless of how many people use a certain part of the Internet, no site should be the victim of coorporate censorship based on non-existant proof of copyright infringement.
The recording industry is really the modern Sisyphus. What a bunch of idiots. So what now? Filesharers will just move to another ISP, which doesn’t censor the internet. Or filesharing sites will switch to https. It’s like they are trying to mend a leaking dam, and once they have fixed one hole another one will pop up. There will be always filesharing, and apart from wasting a lot of money in their pointless attempts, they just can’t do anything about…
Yawn …
1. Put proxy in browser,
2. Put proxy into utorrent (if necessary – probably won’t be)
3. Continue stealing copyrighted content.
@2, @13
How would https solve this if they block the site’s IP range?
I dont understand how you can block a website that serves legal content aswell. its the user breaking the law not the website.
I have MP3 files on my computer. They potentially COULD be shared, even though I have no intent (proving intent doesn’t seem to matter) to do so. My computer is connected to the Internet. So, should I be disconnected because I could potentially infringe their copyrights? Shot in the street to make sure I never am able to infringe?
We’re getting to the point where EVERYONE is a suspect. This is good. But it isn’t causing pain to Joe Average yet. He’s still emptying his wallet into Big Content’s coffers. This must get really, really painful – “Dad, I need to complete my school project, but the Internet doesn’t work! What’s going on?” – before it gets any better. Someone will have to step on Big Content’s air hose, which is the money they are freely given by their patrons who don’t yet realize that individual rights are being destroyed.
cancel subscription for obvious breach of contract
change ISP
…
profit!
btw have they already stated what kind of blockade it is gonna be? lolz @ DNS: http://83.140.65.11/
Also are there no privacy of correspondence etc laws in Ireland which would prohibit such behavior to begin with?
@17 shut up dont give them any newer stupid ideas
fucking idiot catholics
I hope Eircom goes bankrupt and losses all their customers for being such pussies.
This is ridicules to have the media take over the Internet like that.
Furthermore, The Pirate Bay (or any other sites __Ericom__ intend to block) ..
Darknet?
hmmm… I think I’ve seen this somewhere.. it had something to do with Orwell or something…
Well I can only come to one conclusion about this:
FUCK OFF YOU COPYRIGHT-LOBBYIST BASTARDS! The world is not yours and the entire world isn’t goddamn North Korea!!
What’s wrong with TPB’s mail server?
It’s bad for sure to the actual model of bittorrent. But, some hacker (not cracker) working hard to find other way to keep filesharing alive.
I dont know for you, i am in canada and i dont see any news about the filesharing. Neither the politian say a words about that. But the music industry continue to overrule the world.
I dont know for you, but if a country said no to this bullshit. Then it’s will be the world war 3. Not with weapon but with technology!!!
This chaos is inevitable. What about those hackers? If it is a good cause, then they will help us for sure!!
LONG LIFE TO FILESHARING AND TPB!!
once IRMA gets done with the main bit-torrents sites. it will move and get all the warez site blocked. then it will move and block sites like youtube.
they then get russina mp3 sites block.
. UPC and BT should respond by blocking access to IRMA
I this is most likely going to be a DNS block. This can be easily fixed by using OpenDNS. No proxy needed if I am right.
HERE WE GO AGAIN.WHY DONT THESE RECORD COMPANIES JUST REALIZE THAT FILE SHARING IS NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY.LAST I LOOKED THEY STILL MADE SOMEWHERE IN THE BILLIONS LAST YEAR.POOR POOR INDUSTRY.ITS SIMPLE.STOP CHARGING 20.00 AND UP FOR A CD FULL OF CRAPPY SONGS.PUT MAYBE 4 OR 5 SONGS.GOOD SONGS.EACH CD COULD ALSO HAVE A COUPON FOR A REDUCED PRICE ON UPCOMING LIVE CONCERTS.COME ON ALREADY,GIVE PEOPLE A REASON TO BUY YOUR PRODUCT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCTevm4xv9U&feature=channel
What President Bush has to say about music piracy
It’s funny, cuz now everybody will know how “free” and “non-corupt” the irish goverment is because what the ISP and (enter anti-piracy agency here) are doing is ilegal, probably on more than one level.
It’s time for the goverment to step in. If they dont the ppl of Irlend will know where they stand.
Besides this will be the end of Eircom anyway.
So dont worry ppl. This wont stand. It can’t. It just.. can’t.
i hope upc protects their customers, they know we make up 40% of traffic.
what about usenet?
ftp sites and xdcc?
p2p is not the problem.
fuck you eircom
fuck you brian cowen
im living off the dole in the backwaters of clare for f***s sake.
20mbit costs me 80 a month.
i will learn and evolve, not get scared and stop.
not a threat, just a fact.+filesharing = a civil crime.
How can they bend over for a non-governing body? Sure if the police asked them to block then they would have no choice. But wtf? Listen to a lobbyist group? Isn’t that a tad bit illegal to do, to censor the internet without legal grounds?
pfft, just seen piracy as a topic on the RTE ~News.
and lo and behold, it is an issue that has been ‘taken care of’ by the government fat cats of brian cowen.
ITS THESE SHADY EXECUTIVE DEALS THAT SHADOWED MR. COWENS CAREER.
HE NEEDS TO PUT A FIRM END TO THIS.
EITHER THAT OR I SEND HIM A LETTER BOMB.(I JOKE)
First the torrent trackers will go dark. Then any site that has links or downloads to torrent programs will be next. Then any site that posts news about torrents, pirates or the music/movie industry will be blocked. The internet will become a nice neat little package of 100 or so websites that can be legally accessed.
The arguments could be that the music/movie industry wants drm back in place. Then can force these isp’s to block sites like Amazon or public domain music sites because of their competing business model.
RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!
The one thing that really stands out in my eyes is the 7 days timeframe. This whould mean that any agreement whould have to be made just a few days before the main contributors behind TPB is likely to be found innocent by swedish court. Looks like IRMA is afraid ISPs might think twice if a court decition in sweden goes against them.
how bout we file a request to have the sites of the stupid anti piracy groups and the groups behind this blocked as well.
At last! A “final solution” for Celtic music!
Idiots … they should produce better products worth buying!!!
I look forward to it.
This is a stupid idea and it will never work.
It is actually against EU law and has been tried a few times before in other countries I believe.
Even if they do manage to ‘block’ it there are numerous ways to get around it.. its a complete waste of time and resources.
In reality this is Eircoms fault, they folded easily the last time IRMA asked them to enforce copyright violation notices so they are seen as an easy target.
Anyway the people here already hate the government because of the economic downturn (about to enforce pension levies). I doubt the government also want to be partially responsible for cencorship too…
if the ISP blocks the websites IP i dont think a proxy will work since the Website IP is being blocked not the URL
next chapter in the book: ISP block’s IRC protocol due to pressure by the porn industry, because some users used it to get passwords for their sites.
is IRC used only for that reason?
the same happens to filesharing sites.
PinkPanther: “So, should I be disconnected because I could potentially infringe their copyrights? Shot in the street to make sure I never am able to infringe?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZeHpDQ5CE
;-)
@38 WIN!
Really? The music companies really think blocking sites that aren’t illegal is a good idea? What about the back lash of the end users?
Oh right, recording industry. I forgot they don’t give a shit about other people. All they want is money.
My bad!
NZBS ALL YOU WANT.FASTER THAN TORRENT FOR A FEW QUID A MONTH.HAPPY DAYS
The hell his wrong with the music industry? Next thing those psychotic retards will try is shutting down the internet.
Even if this can be circumvented, it’s still horrible thing to happen. Torrents are intended also used for sharing legal content. Not all the stuff on these sites is illegal. What gives them the right to stop people from sharing their own things with each other?
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=53586632674
have no fear as there will always be a work around
https
opendns
software proxy
web/internet based proxy site or tunnel
http tunnel sever
vpn (hamachi, openvpn, etc)
ipv4/ipv6 tunnel services
and these are just a few that will help you.
there are tooooo many ways to get what you want regardless of laws
even if your country block access to any protocol you can always connect via someone who can be it in your country or another.
file sharing will continue,
listening to what YOU want on whatever device YOU see fit will continue.
hell if it comes to it ill go to my loacal library or friends & borrow their cd’s & copy them to my mp3 player.
the end result is if i like what i hear i buy it & probably lend it out too.
ALL HAIL MING!
PEOPLE HTTPS or SSL CONNECTIONS DOESNT DO SHIT ON BLOCKED IP’S, IF THE CONNECTION IS REFUSED YOU CAN ENCRYPT THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR SHIT, STILL YOUR SHIT WON’T COME OUT OUT OF THE CALLED ASSHOLE :)
FKING NOOBS.
Just change the DNS name server to
OPEN DNS and bobs your uncle, lol.
You’re right.. rights are melting away.. but you’re wrong.. it’s not happening slowly… … … !!!
This is the music industry just fighting for its last breath. They see their current business model going down the toiler (artist -> record co -> public) and don’t want to miss out on anything when we finally start getting our music directly from the artist.
This made me chuckle a little bit because it seems like an act of desperation..
One more option would be Tor:
http://www.torproject.org/
Eircom sure didn’t invent dynamite, did you know they had Dublin wired with 20mbit optic cable and then dug it all up again because they didn’t know what to do with the bandwidth!
YAY!!! Stop stealing my work product you thieves!!! This is a good start!
The middle mans days are numbered and they know it. It’s disgusting how they try to use civil law principles to try and make people criminals now their profit margins are being squeezed, look how they scrabble for the scraps that are left. Bring on the digital DL age artists and consumers will not miss these shysters, mind you they will only be replaced by another set of shysters!
That is kinda scary, where will they stop? But giving in to RIAA will only cause more headache….the hacktivist will go nuts and the people will develop new means of circumventing information.
And Leann how do you know they are stealing your work? People only take things that they will benefit from. I doubt they will benefit from going deaf.
~ I was here ~
File Sharing is not illegal. Remove the copyrighted material, not the file sharing. Its not our fault Copyrighted material is on the internet. Shouldn’t the music industry put a stop to that, and not a stop to a perfectly legal file sharing.
I would like to see ALL Torrent sites blocked. Some of you people talk like the music industry is some big evil corporation. File sharing hurts smaller labels like Warp and Ninja that put out great music. Companies like this should be profitable, they deserve to for having passion and releasing great music.
Not really eircom that needs to be handslapped, its the IRMA!!! they are the real evil!!!
Boycott IRMA
To all the people saying “Change ISP!”…
… Eircom was their target for a good reason: it’s the largest and most widespread ISP in the country. This is because, up until recently, it was the ONLY ISP and phone service.
If you think the government will care… No. Of course they won’t. Bring it to their attention, and they’ll ignore it. After all, pirates are a minority of the population. Provided the majority are happy, they won’t care.
This country has made me far more cynical than is healthy.
Eircom Fails
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TPB FTW
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So are these associations paying the ISPs to do this? or are they just demanding free work?
Is it right to assume that if I have an internet connection, I will access file sharing sites to download illegal material?
What if I want to share/download LEGAL material. Then where do I go? Msn?
We don’t want to listen to your britney spears and avril lavigne – deal with it.
Eircom own all the telephone lines in Ireland – every customer, regardless of their ISP, pays a line rental of ~€25 on their bill, which is eventually handed over to eircom.
I worked with eircom for a few weeks a while back – i was on the team ringing customers to see if they wanted to updgrade from dial up (yep, it still exists here!!!!) to BB – and you would not believe the amount of people who said no, they were happy paying their per minute charges, because they didn’t use it all that much.
If people do drop eircom and switch, it will probably be just a few directly because of this – I just hope that a lot more will drop them on principle. As many of you pointed out, file sharing is not always illegal!
I have waffles.fm, what.cd, metal.iplay, metal.bits, spotify…
Don’t give a shit if they block TPB or mininova as I don’t get my other content there either…
Those who are really into filesharing won’t stop share until they cut your internet connection. So the most fascist country is France which is threatening to cut off the internet for the ‘pirates’… Too bad i’m french, but i find myself glad to use only private trackers…
And to LUC ‘fucking’ Besson : Go fuck yourself nobody is downloading ur crappy movies, that’s just they are so bad nobody buys them…
Darknet might be the future…
@NubCakes
“3. Continue stealing copyrighted content.”
Except that filesharing isn’t stealing, in any way, shape, or form.
Go back where you came from, you goddamn RIAA plant. You aren’t fooling anybody just because you pretend to be a filesharer inbetween spouting reality-defying MAFIAA talking-points such as “P2P = STEELING!!!!11!”.
You’ve been here long enough to see that fallacy torn down a million times, so don’t even try coming up with an excuse.
Now here’s where you post under another screen name and say “LOL TEH PPL HERE ACCUZE REALISTS OF BIENG PLANTZ!!!”, as if claiming filesharing was theft has anything to do with reality.
Someone needs to release a kind of an Encrypted Napster program that uses all users as encrypted proxies and allows for unlimited anonymous file sharing.
Use something like freenet mixed with emule and BitTorrent to transfer and host all files on the Internet.
Perhaps someone should contact http://wua.la and ask them to make their encrypted anonymous p2p storage/sharing system open for trading of all types of files without any centralized control.
the music industry can go fuck ‘emselves. so damn money greedy
#21 your a dickhead
people drop BT and switch to MUTE like protocols (and be the unknowing route packets of child porn). IRMA will cause people to transport data that they never wanted to transport through their routers. Way to go evil music industry.
ya, you do know that eircom own the landline base internet and telephone system in ireland and don’t care which service you go with as they all pay eircom. If you ring then up and done like the price they give they’ll even offer to give you the telephone number of other isp’s as they get paid either way. Number 70 comments are right
Of course there are ways around IP blocks but most of them are a pain in the ars.e. Plus with their other arrangement all IFPI have to do is jump on popular torrents and monitor for Eircom IPs. They then have a list of people who can be easily disconnected. It will make open torrents very unsafe.
If you don’t want to change your ISP I’d look into more secure filesharing method right away.
hurrah the middle men are finished, (replaced by new set unfortunately) the artists don’t want you and neither do the consumers.
eircom should fight back like the pirate bay…what a bunch of pussies, i guess i could go to them and ask them to give me their money.
this is censorship and must be stopped
Here you can send email to eircom,, i just sent complaint about this.
http://www.eircom.ie/cgi-bin/bvsm/bveircom/customer-carea.jsp?site=Res&chanId=-536882395&BV_SessionID=@@@@0042806787.1235440115@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccciadegifkfghlcefeceiedffndffj.0
Anyhow, i am not concerned.
And will enjoy p2p even more because forbidden fruit tastes even better.
OpenDNS rulez
i’m so glad to be leaving this stupid fucking country.
i’m so glad to be leaving this stupid, backwards country.
Boo torrent-blocking ISP’s!!!
Thank heavens for VPN.
And theres always usenet. Maybe we should just all post our content on usenet as it is way faster (download speed wise).
Well done eircom!! The more you bend over the easier it gets!!
Next they will begin to block every port except 80 and limit your usage to social networking sites and youtube.
Sad how a non legal coporate group can impose censorship on a country. Ireland…….a democracy…ha!! :p
@41 you sure dont know what a proxy is to say this stupid comment, fyi when you use a proxy, you first connect to it, sort of a server relaying with its own IP and network to the torrent site you want to connect to, it has its own DNS server and it will for sure not be blocked cause you have never a direct link to the torrent site, the only way for them to stop this would be to ban all actual and future proxy IP addresses, and since they are not dealing with illegal sharing, I find it hard to believe they would be able to as for the most part they mostly are used by businesses.
The only way we will stop them is if everyone, even those who dont use filesharing to boycott music stores and theaters for the principle that we are losing our freedom. And please dont be as stupid as the UK lady who said in an interview : “I dont mind giving up my freedom to keep my liberty!”
I hope she did realize by now how stupid she looked to the world, I would shoot myself for having made a comment like this. People we are billions they are how many not even a million, and we would let a minority tell a majority what they can or cannot do?? It is just non sense and illogical and yet as long as we dont make a STAND they will eventually win.
@21 these big owners of music and movie industries are far from being catholics, all of them are runned or owned by Jewish men, look up their names and I assure you 90% of them are jewish names. Rockefeller, Kissinger, Rotchild and company are all big Jewish families trying to rule us like we were animals, did you know that they believe that all “Gentiles”(us non jews) even the best of us deserves to die?? Read the true Talmud and you will fall on your ass or as the saying say “shocked for 6″. Here we have a way to fight them, lets all unite and we can beat them, it is not only a question of copyright infringement, but our freedom and liberty to do as we wish with what we possess! Last I heard it was legal to share your partner but yet you cant share your music! Why cant I share the music I like to a friend so that he gets an idea of our music taste? or movie taste? Soon if we let them we will be charged for breathing the air. And by the way when a radio broadcasts on airwaves songs, that can be received and recorded by anyone with a radio receivers, since those waves are of public domain, well then its the same thing as if you upload a pic you made yourself so that others can dl it, well guess what you cannot put a copyright on it, so why would the music industry have that right?
it should have read @43 not @41, typo.
Correction : it should have read @43 not @41, typo.
well the choice is…
a) let the music companys rape you
b) or you rape yourself with the loss of income when your customers switch to an isp with balls.
Goodbye Eircom
I live in Denmark, and all I had to do to get to the piratebay was use openDNS…
The ISP’s and IFPI might be evil fucks, but at least they’re also evil incompetent fucks :D
At 41: “these big owners of music and movie industries are far from being catholics, all of them are runned or owned by Jewish men, look up their names and I assure you 90% of them are jewish names.”
No. They are not jewish either. Real Jewish don’t do this kind of crap nor real muslim or real christians!
The goal of all these scourges without faith or law is to devide and control.
Let’s not go for that! Let join together and kick their ass!
TOGETHER!
How can they disconnect someone if this is against EU directive?
Boy I’m feeling very relevant right now…. an Irishman working about 150 meters from the Pirate Bay trial is held….
Anyway…. Surely blocking these sites is a good thing for an ISP, since the customers who download use a disproportionate amount of the ISP’s bandwidth. They really want lots of customers who pay their monthly fee and use a tiny amount of the available upload/download limits. So caving in to the music industry is a way of getting rid of these “non-profitable” subscribers without having to do it for other reasons.
You see UK ISPs currently trying to impose bandwidth limits or asking subscribers to pay for every Gigabyte over a certain cap.
sory Irish people feel for you.
This is a disaster for Eircom.
I can’t imagine too many of the Irish market will stand for a filtered, watered-down version of the web.
It’s simple to proxy around this filter but why should we have to?
Eircom is a rip-off anyway, it’s about time something like this happened to shake up the Irish ISP market.
I currently use Eircom and my homepage is ThePirateBay. I doubt I’m going to stop using it just because Eircom are going to block direct access to the site.
The Irish like their potatoes and the Ericon will end up stumbling on them!
If the wheel was copyrighted by Surmirians or Babylonians who invented
it, we would be still on tree tops!
Copy Right is a bunkum and odious notion, which hinders progress and freedom, it should be abolished, and done away with it, Education means to learn if every Mathematics Theory was copy righted there be no education!
Greed is good for the lower depth, it is time to wake up, needs people’s power, and this is an opportunity not to be missed! Take them on and hit them where it hurts! Their greasy pockets, start boycotting the Ericon pricks and pimps.!
Tell them good luck with blocking all the THOUSANDS OF PROXY WEBSITES to get to the pirate bay easy lol
the other internet providers in this country have no balls and will soon fallow suit ntl has already tried to sue an idividual for 4.6billion for apparant loss of income because he helped to sell set top boxs that allowed acsess to digital tv for free.
these companys are scared they cant afford to be sued.
people need to stop complaining about this and take action or the other companys will follow quickly.
Hey, I’m an open minded girl from UK, I’m interested in exotic things, photography, dating and sports…
I have my photos on — T a l l h u b.C o m —, I love tall guys!
Do you love traveling and have some experience? Just find me out.
I just canceled my subscription with Eircom. Looks like Ireland is turning into China in regards the internet. Where can I find info about proxy.
Time to get a vpn.
You should note that not all danish ISPs have blocked for thepiratebay…
and only one that I know of have done more than the simple dns block.
SSH VPN FTW
GOODBYE NET NEUTRALITY :((
@102 (linda)
Baby Don’t spam
If you do it again you will have to face the business end of some very angry boys around here.
Anyone want to become a hero and set up and explain a way for all those Irishmen and women to re connect to the sharing sites, should this go through?
Youd be famous, enabiling all those people to continue more or less the same.
Personally, Im abandoning Eircom, as fast as possible.
What utter utter rubbish. And I thought they might have some balls, when they started going to court.
A well.
When are the music companies going to give in on stuff like this? There are too many
people, myself included, who are fed up with the old school way of
promoting shows and artists. Online radio has already changed the face
of music. If you are interested in a career in online radio check out the Radio Connection. They match you with a mentor which specializes in your area of interest, whether is is electronica, Djing, hip hop, or talk radio. http://www.radioconnection.com for more info !
Don Pedro de Mount Coffee House, you are an Irish peer! Hope the other Poutteen crowed fill take lead from you and raise the Joly Roger of dignity!
Good on you! Ericon is just an Erah(Arabic/Hebrew for penis)
I thought the irish were supposed to be strong and brave. Not just in the stomach. Fuckin Irish Pussies….
Hey all,
Can I also send in an IRMA with my company… I would like to block the site www’microsoft’com, due to illigal spreading of illigal materials… I can prove their IP was in my Utorrent overview of a torrent I downloaded recently. I can proove it with a printscreen!
Cheerz,
“If i came to your job/
And Took your corn-on-the-cob/
and left a couple kernels on it that would be alright with you?
Hell Naaa/
Exact-a-mundo”
-ANDRE 3000
do any of you guys depend on the movie/TV business to pay your rent and feed yourself?
I’m so sick of people using illogical arguments rooted in david vs goliath BS.
If you steal a movie, tv show or song it’s theft. How could it not be? I hope most of u are too smart to actually believe that…
If you don’t ask one of the thousands of people who lost their jobs in the music industry.
Next, you idiots suprised the FBI cares about millions of dollars being stolen everyday…Can I ask, If someone broke into your place of business everynight and stole all your products, and it happened at every location nationwide, everysingle night, THEN would that qualify as an “FBI” worthy case? Again, I hope ur too smart to believe your own BS…
What i hear is of bunch of whiney self absorbed people who feel they are “owed” everything in life. (you know the kinda thing you try to teach your kids not to be like) I used too hate old people who talked to me like that but my generation is a bunch of in-grateful babies… I mean to be upset at people you steal from for caring that you stole???????
Next stupid argument…hollywood and the MPAA are so evil.
If someone robs a bank, would the fact that we all hate banks now make it legal for them. Because that’s pretty much all the “evil hollywood/mpaa” argument is. Oh god i can’t believe the MPAA is trying to stop the loss of millions of dollars? How dare they!!! are u guys serious? do you have jobs? If someone broke into your office and stole everything out of your desk would you report it? would you hope the police looked into it? Now imagine that times a million…I think the mpaa kinda has a right to be pissed or is that ridiculous to think that you should have to pay for something people paid to make and sell?
HYPOCRITICAL JUSTIFICATION OF THEFT…
People pay money to produce the tv, movies and music. Although music can be made and recorded for extremely low cost. I’d love to hear how you are going to shoot Dark Knight or one episode of any show in your garage? The lighting alone costs a couple hundred grand…have fun…i think youtube already proved this point though
I’m confused how my entire generation can feel so “owed” free material that costs others money and hardwork.
I know its cool to think everything should be free and I’m sure I’ll be blown away by the wit my post is met with via anonymous responses. But most of you wouldn’t steal from a store and trying to call what happens on torrent sites anything else but theft is a bunch of symantical BS….
take your argument to it’s logical conclusion…Hollywood maybe an easy target, but ireally it’s just another name for an industry that needs financhial incentives to work. You steal everything, then we stop making it. what would you do if there was no tv or movies? Be careful or you might have to get a life instead of uploading tv shows all night and writing uneducated ingrateful rants about that which you barely understand…
When you steal movies, you aren’t making some ANTI MPAA F-Hollywood statemtent.
Most of you are too smart to believe that, yet it’s so easy you still don’t stop to think about people like me who make very little money in the industry that you are putting out of a job.
maybe they did not succeed
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/02/eircom-no-pirate-bay-blockade-until-we-get-a-court-order.ars
to the idiot above.
i dont mind paying for something but i like to use it how the hell i please without shackles or restrictions, i like to be-able to play my paid game more than 5 times a lifetime, i want to transfer my paid media to any listening/playing device i choose, i would like to watch my movies or tv shows on my legally baught stand alone DIVX player.
name me 1 shop 1 single store i can buy DIVX content media to play on my legally purchased Stand alone DivX player?
nope zip… so before you start shooting your mouth about how wrong it is, why dont you look at why people pirate.
paid content comes with way to many rules licences and restrictions.
free content pirated is stripped of all this bullshit
i’m sorry but i refuse to deal with all that when i’ve give my hard earned money to someone for something
if i can smash it into a million peices and not get into trouble that means i own the media, but if i want to use it on something other than a device it was locked too im doing wrong???? like hell i am.
go away
Why don’t I get royalties for my work but film stars and musicians do?
Are you and your lackeys fucking entitled to the vast income that your agents bully out of ordinary people just for some entertainment?
Fuck off. Filesharing rules.
Going Bombing Eircom HQ and other offices (tagging) with “P2P is legal” etc. respond with msgs you want, also geting some “hkr” friends to send some mass emails out and get some responce to eircom, just emailed the HQ there ! This is total BS, but they have allways being sneaky scumbags and when there was no competition (BT, Perlico) they used RIP US THE FK OFF and still try so i think this shall be there wake up call ! BICOTT !!!!
As an Irishman proud of my country’s usually progressive stance, I’m OUTRAGED at blatant censorship of legal sites.
THIS IS NOT CHINA FFS
“Dear Sirs,
We act as solicitors for Blacknight Internet Solutions Limited who have handed us a copy of yours of the 13th inst. We have explained the contents in detail to our clients who acknowledges your clients situation.
It is most important to note however that our clients are a hosting provider. This is distinct to an access provider and our client therefore does not offer DSL or other internet access services.
We understand that the agreement with Eircom relates to DSL services, which make illegal filesharing possible. Again we reiterate that our clients do not offer this service. Nor does our client have any subscribers as outlined in your letter.
We sympathise with your clients, we hope you will see that our clients are not involved in such activities and therefore we would be grateful if you would kindly revert and confirm our clients cooperation and also a release from any legal action as mentioned in your aforesaid letter.”
sorry this is the letter
”
You will be aware of an action taken by our clients in the Commercial Division of the High Court in January of this year. The case was settled on the basis that eircom would work closely with the record industry to end the abuse of the internet by peer to peer copyright infringers.
The settlement agreement provides that our clients will supply eircom with the IP addresses of all persons who they detect illegally uploading or downloading copyrighted works and that eircom will, upon receipt of this information, implement a graduated response which will firstly inform its broadband subscriber that its subscribers IP address has been detected infringing copyright; will secondly warn the subscriber that unless the infringement ceases the subscriber will be disconnected and may take steps to throttle the subscribers broadband service; and finally in default of compliance will result in the disconnection of the subscriber. In addition to this eircom has agreed that it will not oppose any application our clients may make seeking the blocking of access from their networks to the Pirate Bay websites or similar websites.
It is the position of our clients that by this agreement eircom has agreed to comply with its statutory duty under section 40(4) of the Act to remove the material infringing our client’s copyright from its facilities.
Please confirm that Blacknight will also work with the record industry to end the abuse of the internet by peer to peer infringers and that it will, if it receives IP addresses from the record companies of persons that they detect illegally uploading or downloading copyright works, operate a similar graduated response and that it will disconnect the subscriber in default of compliance.
We should add by way of elaboration that it is not intended that there be any disclosure of our clients of the identity of the person(s) denoted by the IP address at the time in question.
In the event of a positive response to this letter, it is proposed to make practical arrangements with Blacknight of a like nature to those made with eircom.
In the event of a negative response to this letter, section 40(4) of the Act will be invoked against Blacknight and proceedings intituted.
We are writing to other ISPs in similar terms.
While we appreciate that this is a matter in respect of which you would wish to obtain legal advice, in the circumstances we must request a response within seven days of the date of this letter.
“
ok, so now file share sites will also become ISPs… is that it?
ISP’s blocking torrent sites…surely if it was as simple as that, they would have all done it by now, gives me hope.
…and I say again, pity they aren’t trying to block kiddy porn sites with as much enthusiasm, no fucking money to be made by fat corporate dickheads.
I see that someone here has already mentioned it, but yes the simple solution to access a blocked website would be to use Tor.
Just remember that when using Tor do not login to your emails or do online banking! use it to defeat these pompous ass serpents that think they own you and gain some privacy back.
nuff said…
“IFPI has always been at war with TBP”
A rhetorical apples to oranges type of question, but instead of blocking bit torrent sites, why isn’t Eircom doing the right thing and dealing with the horrendous spam problem instead? That is a much bigger problem and nobody seems to give a shit.
Seeing as my ISP now sensors my Bittorrent. Assholes. I have now turned to Warez Forums and File Hosting Sites.
In a way it is superior; because you can’t be sued for “potential losses” as long as you only download and don’t upload.
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