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NinjaVideo Founder Faces Jail Time Following Guilty Plea

Little over a year after U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement started “Operation In Our Sites,” the authorities have announced their first conviction. Yesterday, the first site owner targeted by the operation pleaded guilty. The 23-year old Matthew Smith, admitted to conspiracy and criminal copyright infringement charges for his role in the video streaming and download site NinjaVideo.

ninjavideoAt the end of June last year, nine sites connected to movie streaming were targeted by the U.S. government, including NinjaVideo.net, one of the Internet’s most prominent video streaming sites.

It was the first round in the ongoing “Operation in Our Sites” through which more than 100 domain names have been seized to date.

In NinjaVideo’s case, the authorities not only seized the site’s domain names, but also launched a full-fledged criminal investigation into the people involved.

As a result, five people connected to the movie streaming site were indicted by a federal grand jury two weeks ago. All are suspected of conspiracy and several copyright-related offenses. One of the five, 23-year old Matthew Smith, pleaded guilty to conspiracy and criminal copyright infringement yesterday.

The guilty plea results in an automatic conviction and the court documents further reveal that Smith has waived his right to appeal.

The NinjaVideo founder plead guilty to two of the six counts, including conspiring with the other defendants to willfully infringe the rights of third parties for profit. Smith admitted that the site generated more than $500,000 from advertising and donations during the two-year period the site was active.

Four of the five criminal copyright charges were dismissed by the court; these all referred to specific movie titles (2012, Iron Man 2, Avatar and The A-Team). Smith did, however, plead guilty to the more general copyright infringement charges below, as stated in the original indictment.

“[Smith] Did willfully, and for purposes of private financial gain, infringe the copyrights of copyrighted works, that is, motion pictures, television programs, and software, by the reproduction and distribution over the Internet, during a 180-day period, of ten or more copies of one or more copyrighted works which had a total retail value of more than $2,500.”

The maximum penalty for both counts Smith plead guilty to is five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. He will be sentenced in December, and considering his cooperative stance it seems unlikely that he will receive maximum punishment.

The four other NinjaVideo defendants, including co-founder Hana Beshara, are scheduled for a jury trial February next year.

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  • Ven

    Well there ya go. The most important thing to note is that his lawyer obviously told him early on that he was screwed and needed to play ball with the prosecution to get off easy.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      THIS is easy? He still has jail time because the charges are so biased against each person that they can barely defend themselves?

      If anything I see a huge reason to hate the plea bargaining that I’m sure went on here. Also, out of all the money the guy was supposedly making, I’m sure most of it went to his lawyer. Retainers aren’t cheap. Good job. Someone shows Hollywood how to make a site that can have a lot of traffic and cater to customers and instead of making one better, they give jail time. What a crock of crap!

      • Anonymous

        “Someone shows Hollywood how to make a site that can have a lot of traffic and cater to customers and instead of making one better, they give jail time. What a crock of crap! ”

        This.

        And that’s the problem, people say you can’t compete with free, but the truth is you can. iTunes (as much as I hate it) and Netflix and Hulu manage to do exactly that. And those are just a handful of examples of things that do so on a regular (and very profitable I might add) basis. So why then can’t they offer a similar service? If those examples can make it, so can others. Then again, Netflix and Hulu are both suffering lately due to bad moves (and greed, obviously) on the part of the studios. They’re literally strangling the golden goose in an attempt to squeeze out as many eggs as possible from it. Which only further serves to push consumers away from their offerings.

        I mean how easy would it be to create a LEGAL torrent site offering music and movies? Very. Heck, they could just rip off the design of any torrent site and in place make it member only. Set a monthly fee (a REASONABLE monthly fee) and let people download to their heart’s content. No limitations. No DRM restrictions. Etc. Or if not a monthly fee/to their heart’s content thing, then same torrent site but on a pay per movie/album basis. Basically, iTunes. But with offerings from everyone (and minus the whole Apple control thing). I can guarantee, the casual torrent user would go with that if they could get everything they wanted there at a reasonable price. As long as there were no restrictions (i.e. DRM, only certain formats, etc.).

        But the truth is, they don’t want to innovate or listen to consumers. They want to dictate to us how we’ll take their offerings and that’s it. That and they want the money without the work. Ala Netflix. It’s all short sightedness on the part of Hollywood. And that short sightedness is going to cost them in the long run.

        • http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis

          The truth is that I’ve thought about that too. Even if it was free, they would make a lot of money from advertisements and donations (donate to the movie you like, not to all…). But they can’t have JUST that. The budget for recent movies is a lot more than they can make from a site.
          See ninjavideo: They made 500.000$ in 2 years from ads+donations.
          Now as an example, let’s take the movie “Horrible Bosses”. It had a budget of 36.000.000$! And that’s a simple comedy movie, not a megaproduction like avatar, troy etc.
          Of course their site wouldn’t make just 500k$, but in any case, you still need to have a theater audience.
          So they can’t afford releasing a watchable version while it’s still played in the theaters.
          BUT, they could keep it in the theaters for some time (depending on the revenue) and when it’s off, upload it for free and depend on donations and ads.

          Why are we even talking about this? They’re greedy, backwards assholes who can’t think of a better way to promote their service… And that’s of course not their fault! It’s the pirates’ fault! Darn pirates, stealing our food and money!

      • Ven

        Calm down. He pleaded guilty, and those are the maximum penalties that carry over when this crime is committed. I would imagine that he bargained out a good deal that only involves fines he can afford and jail time that helps him avoid more fines.

        Also, I would imagine his lawyer was rather poor at his job, or that the defendant screwed himself before the trial even started.

        • Johnq2

          Very expensive and can ruin peoples lives when they try to defend themselves, clearly his lawyer realized that unless his client could afford at least five lawyers he was screwed.

        • Johnq2

          Very expensive and can ruin peoples lives when they try to defend themselves, clearly his lawyer realized that unless his client could afford at least five lawyers he was screwed.

      • Anonymous

        No…because the EVIDENCE against him is so big that he has no defense.

        And…you fucking idiot…Someone shows Hollywood that they can give their stuff away for free (since it costs them NOTHING to supply it) and make money. That does NOTHING for Hollywood since it is not the same thing at all.

        There is NO business model to anyone who is worthy of breathing air on this planet (which does not include you…according to your own mother who wants you dead) that allows someone to give away your product for free on the same shelf of the same store as you have your product for even one penny. And it would be monumentally stupid to TRY to sell your product as long as people are illegally giving it away in the same “store”

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

          “No…because the EVIDENCE against him is so big that he has no defense.”

          Question here:

          What evidence can be brought to bear that Ninjavideo is a conspiracy? What evidence on their old website along with in their donations is so case breaking that it can break the “beyond a reasonable doubt” that is needed in a US court of law?

          When you can answer that without a retreat into a rhetorical “but they made money from donations”, then I’ll take you seriously.

          “There is NO business model to anyone who is worthy of breathing air on this planet (which does not include you…according to your own mother who wants you dead) that allows someone to give away your product for free on the same shelf of the same store as you have your product for even one penny. And it would be monumentally stupid to TRY to sell your product as long as people are illegally giving it away in the same “store”"

          Netflix sure as certain disagrees.

          Lulu.com

          The Humble Indie Bundle

          Valve

          Oh, and Fox learned this lesson after their 8 day delay. I’d go on but you’ve shown that you have nothing to back up your claim.

        • YoureAWanker

          “And…you fucking idiot…Someone shows Hollywood that they can give their stuff away for free (since it costs them NOTHING to supply it) and make money. That does NOTHING for Hollywood since it is not the same thing at all.”

          How is that not the same thing at all, you f*cking idiot? Hulu gives away products from studios for free. And they also offer a paid subscription service that I believe recently was announced had over a million subscribers. Keep in mind one important thing, that is a million people paying Hulu for a service to a product (tv shows) that Hulu also gives away for free. [mind = blown] People are paying for something they can get freely from the same company. DAMN! That sure as heck shoots down your entire comment there, lakawak.

          “There is NO business model to anyone who is worthy of breathing air on this planet (which does not include you…according to your own mother who wants you dead) that allows someone to give away your product for free on the same shelf of the same store as you have your product for even one penny. And it would be monumentally stupid to TRY to sell your product as long as people are illegally giving it away in the same “store” ”

          Okay, that entire comment is a little disjointed and hard to understand (due to how angry you were when you wrote it, thus it was written without thinking in a fit of anger, but I’ll try and dissect it anyway). Netflix and iTunes both are competing with free. Both are charging fees for the products directly or for their services. Both are doing exceptionally well “on the same shelf of the same store”. That shelf being online and the same store being the internet. And according to you, they should just give up because “it would be monumentally stupid to TRY to sell your product as long as people are illegally giving it away in the same “store” “. Funny. I think you should email both Netflix and Apple and let them know how monumentally stupid they are. Then when they respond and tell you that you should probably get a clue before you speak, you can do what you like doing, flip out and then send another email at them insulting them for pointing out the flaws in your argument and insulting you in return.

          Also as Jay pointed out, the Humble Indie Bundle does remarkably well (and has done so since it’s inception). Especially considering that as soon as it’s announced/released it ends up online for free as well. Valve is doing insanely well. Their offerings also end up online for free, yet millions of people are buying their offerings through Steam. Both out of convenience (easy updates, DLC content, patches, etc.) and because of how good the service and the little extras it has that (to an obviously not insignificant amount of people) make it a better choice than the free version. And Steam itself is free to install, and routinely gives away popular games for free (Portal was free just this past week) or has discounts on games (this past week all Star Wars games were discounted by 50%).

          So, now that two people have thoroughly trashed your ill conceived and obviously moronic comment, what do you have to say? (I doubt you’ll say anything. Trolls never have proper responses. And you sir are a mega troll.)

      • Warezwald0

        @Jay “Also, out of all the money the guy was supposedly making, I’m sure most of it went to his lawyer.”

        Correction: None of that money went to his lawyer. The money was confiscated as evidence during the raids, all these admins lost their bank accounts and paypal accounts.

      • Warezwald0

        @Jay “Also, out of all the money the guy was supposedly making, I’m sure most of it went to his lawyer.”

        Correction: None of that money went to his lawyer. The money was confiscated as evidence during the raids, all these admins lost their bank accounts and paypal accounts.

    • Johnq2

      this is the problem with the Federal Judiciary unless your a millionaire you can’t possibly get a fair trial(even then its questionable, but at least then your not going up against like ten attorneys with one), there is for all US attorneys a 92 percent conviction rate(the other 8 percent is split between mistrials and not guilty and of the mistrials, there is a 95 percent chance of conviction on retrial). As I said the general rule of thumb is that the US attorneys office has so much man power and money at there disposal that the only people who can afford to go up against the G are those who already have lots of money.
      To be honest with you, I think they deserved the same sort of legal team that Rod got(which was still significantly less then the combined effort of the FBI and the US attorneys office) It needs to be harder to indict people in federal court because no normal person can fairly defend themselves in court, if there’s a saying that says the G could indict a ham sandwich, there are clearly some major flaws in the system.

  • MAFIAAFire

    “In NinjaVideo’s case, the authorities not only seized the site’s domain names, but also launched a full-fledged criminal investigation into the people involved.”

    Running a site like NV while in the US – you either have to be VERY VERY VERRRY smart _and_ have huge balls of steel, neither of which I see in this case.
    If you are going to play in the MAFIAA’s playground you got to be a bit smart about it.

    Anyway, it’s quite a sad outcome and one which history will look back on and label as victims in the hopeless corporate greed wars, and the last grasps of a dying industry to scare the rest of the populace.
    This gives the MAFIAA’s lapdogs some leverage to intimidate other poor sods in the US – while the rest of the world laughs at them.

    Stay strong my brothers and sisters, the evil shall pass, stay strong.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      Sadly, selective enforcement is the call of the day. So now, people know not to make sites based on copyright infringement. Now, just have bittorrent sites and cyberlockers. Sad that so much innovation (I’d heard that NV had made an app for streaming) is stifled because the Feds are in the back pocket of the MAFIAA.

    • Anonymous

      I hate to tell you, you stupid fuck, but the “rest of the world” has the same laws. At least most countries.

      But I guess you didn’t want to be factual. You just wanted to go off on your anti-US tirade like the little bitch that your mother is ebmbarrassed about you being.

      • YoureAWanker

        Flagged for the excessive personal attacks on someone. You seem to not understand that IT IS possible to speak to others, even refute what they say WITHOUT using excessive profanity or insults. As such, til you learn I will personally flag each and everyone of your comments that is offensive and not on topic.

  • Anonymous

    Jail sentences for violating copyright. What has this world come to?
    We are not drug barons or murderers.
    The movie studios continue to make handsome profits and are not the least affected.
    The system is corrupt; the U.S. and the world is going to shit.
    First Amendment, my ass.

    • Piratescum

      The putas all deserved it. Now shut up.

      • YoureAWanker

        “Now shut up.”

        Back at you, you’re not adding to the conversation. So just stay quiet.

  • politux

    Well it seems they were profiting off copyright infringement, which in my view is not ok. That being said, jail time seems a little excessive.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah if you make $500,000 off of it and directly infringe yourself that is what you get. Kind of retarded to accept more donations than what the servers cost. When you profit that greatly you are setting yourself up to be a target.

    • Ven

      Doesn’t matter how much things cost: the court is only going to consider the gross revenue and not the profit of the site. They may not have profited at all.

  • Guest

    Never play guilty.

  • foff

    I think it is a bit naive if anyone out there thinks most sites are not making money. No one I know can run a charitable site. A site generating 250K a year would be great if it was all for you but it sounds like it was split at least five ways and that amount may be gross income net would be about 40% less. I guarantee that money is not sitting in an account it is already long gone. In fact his lawyer is probably sucking up a good share of it.

    Streaming is the future for sure. At some point cable will die. At one time lots of channels sounded great but the reality is most are never watched. Sooner or later we will be able to stream all shows and and events we want to watch. I steam a lot of games directly from Espn for free, when TV shows come in HD not the crappy hulu versions I will steam those. When it is all free and legal I will not have to download near as much . I hope the Holly twits get on board soon.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

    Why do I get the feeling that these charges are bogus and the government’s case is weak? If anything, why bully a small site that doesn’t seem able to defend itself while not going for the larger sites that can?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

      I doubt the case was weak. In a civil case (a company sues someone for monetary damages) the burden of proof is relatively low and the risks are only monetary. But in a criminal case (government accuses someone of a crime) like this one, incarceration is a risk, so the burden of proof is high. Also, as part of 6th Amendment rights (IIRC), the defense has access to, or at least knowledge of, the evidence against them, and can use this in deciding whether to go to trial, strike a plea bargain, or whatever. His lawyers probably saw the evidence against him and took into account the outcomes of similar cases, and advised him not to fight it.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

      I doubt the case was weak. In a civil case (a company sues someone for monetary damages) the burden of proof is relatively low and the risks are only monetary. But in a criminal case (government accuses someone of a crime) like this one, incarceration is a risk, so the burden of proof is high. Also, as part of 6th Amendment rights (IIRC), the defense has access to, or at least knowledge of, the evidence against them, and can use this in deciding whether to go to trial, strike a plea bargain, or whatever. His lawyers probably saw the evidence against him and took into account the outcomes of similar cases, and advised him not to fight it.

    • Ven

      Larger sites can tie you up for years in legal battle. They can hire great lawyers who know how to play the game, and may be able to beat the government at it. Just like the copyright lawyers, the Department of Justice WANTS to see precedent set that allows them to do this work in a more time-and-cost efficient manner.

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  • Anonlol

    Seriously, the US are more and more a joke right now, wellll donnne the sooo called country of liberties and free speech !
    It’s like they have reach the point where they consider file-sharers like Viktor bout or sumtin !! Wtf ?!
    Now, if a “rogue website” can make good money like ninja video did, i suggest to their webmasters to change their nationality for country that dont give a damn about copyrights (you know? Belize, Panama shit like that !!) . Time to switch to countries who think about they own interest and not interests of lobbies, riaa, mpaa and all the stuff ! I know i have crazy ideas sometimes, but now if they treat you as a criminal, escape and act like a criminal…

  • Gg

    It’s the ultimate in stupidity to be running a file-sharing site from the USA.

    Had NinjaVideo’s admins lived in Spain, their operation would likely have been judged perfectly legal – just as Rojadirecta was. But being Americans, they’ll be looking at 3-5 years in prison if they plead guilty and confess to everything they’re told. Or perhaps 10 years or more if they choose to fight the charges in a court district that has an almost 100% conviction rate..

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  • Anonymous

    Oh wow you have to admit dude that is pretty messed up man!

    total-privacy.net.tc

    • Anonymous

      Your as bad as the mafiaa trolls trying to make an buck from anything but an honest living, enough with the spam and take your pitiful scam elsewhere.

    • Anonymous

      Your as bad as the mafiaa trolls trying to make an buck from anything but an honest living, enough with the spam and take your pitiful scam elsewhere.

  • Thinker

    Best of luck to all involved. Wonder what the reduced sentencing, if at all, awaits for the one who pleaded guilty. Hopefully we see some sensible outcomes. If rapists and other criminals can get sentences as low as 5-6 years, copyright infringement shouldn’t be more than 6 months in a minimal security prison. There’s a massive difference between copying a file and taking someones dignity and freedom, and possibly even life. The sentences should reflect this. Though sadly, they often do not.

    • Rekrul

      Copyright infringement is the new heresy. And just like the punishments of torture and death were way out of proportion for someone who simply believed in a different religion, so too will the punishments for copyright infringement be way out of proportion for the crime committed. Welcome to the 21st century inquisition.

  • Jmack

    Well I’m going to definitely be following this case. I think it could set some precedent in copyright law. Anyone know what happen to the site owners of the other sites that were seized, like Channelsurfing and the others

  • Ahmed

    good post……….. thanks for sharing

  • Anonymous

    Again…If someonee decided to start a site that did nothing but scrape all of torrentfreaks crappy articles word for word, and they manged to become more successful than torrentfreak (which would not be hard to do since torrentfreak loses money), EVERY ONE of you worthless bitches would be calling for torrentfreak to sue that website for stealing their content and costing torrent freak page views/ad money.

    • LakawakSynonymForMoron

      Actually, there are a few sites that do repeat some of TF’s articles. Not necessarily word per word, but the main points and even mention TF as in “TF had the following article on their site” and they then quote bits and pieces of it.

      Can we have some citation and/or source where you get your info on TF losing money? As well as to how you know everyone here are “worthless bitches”?

      You’ve been flagged. Why? For the personal attacks and being completely off topic. Get a life and troll elsewhere you douche.

      • Toric220

        but when they go “TF had the following article on their site” then they gave credit to TF so it’s all good.

      • Jmorse43508

        I flagged him as well. He ALWAYS comes out with ad hominem personal attacks in his trolling.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

    I doubt these guys actually care about the money. I mean, it doesn’t say many great things that they were making all this money off other people’s work, but I bet their #1 loyalty was to the “free for all” mantra. It’s a pity because there is a sense of gratification in doing your part, contributing to the artist that torrents will never replace. When I purchase a DVD, I get that proud feeling of being able to add it to my collection With a pirated copy, it’s just moving a virtual folder. Very dull by comparison.

    “Again…If someonee decided to start a site that did nothing but scrape all of torrentfreaks crappy articles word for word, and they manged to become more successful than torrentfreak (which would not be hard to do since torrentfreak loses money), EVERY ONE of you worthless bitches would be calling for torrentfreak to sue that website for stealing their content and costing torrent freak page views/ad money.”
    Such a great example of how much hypocrisy there is in the anti copyright movement. I bet if any of them had any hand in creating something, they wouldn’t want people tossing it around without permission. Everyone has something they value and to say that that only that which is yours mattter is asnaine.

    • Bruddah

      “Again…If someonee decided to start a site that did nothing but scrape all of torrentfreaks crappy articles… snip/”

      er, there are plenty of so called news sites that repeat word for word torrentfreak articles. that’s a good thing.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

        Uhm, the sites in question contain nothing more than small quotes and a link to the respective article. That’s hardly what lakalawk was talking about. How about if the same fictitious site created carbon copies of torrentfreak tv and then proceeded to make money off it it through advertising? Hey sharing is caring, right?

        And lol @ whoever is flagging him. You pirates rant about censorship time after time, but when someone sees you for who you are, you panic and do whatever it takes to remove the post. Pirates have no problem with censorship it seems as long as it furthers your agenda of being the only ones with a voice.

        • Bruddah

          “…then proceeded to make money off it it”

          sharing doesn’t involve making money dumbarse

        • Bruddah

          also “the sites in question contain nothing more than small quotes and a link”

          nope, many sites reproduce entire articles and leave no link or source… pretty sure tf doesn’t give a shit

        • JackMurdockSucks

          Actually, no one is being censored on this site. If you’ll notice the only people being flagged are the ones posting up links (spammers) and the one guy who consistently insults everyone on this site and never actually says anything in regards to the articles. That’s not censorship. That’s flagging comments that don’t belong.

          And the “pirates rant about censorship time after time” is in regards to things like Protect IP and other various methods employed and used by the MPAA/RIAA to silence those with views opposing theirs. Look on here. No one’s silencing people with opposing viewpoints. (Unlike the MPAA blog where no comments are allowed at all, in order to keep ONLY their voice/viewpoints heard/seen by others. That’s not censorship however, that’s just being scared of what others have to say which will refute their “facts” and “studies” and “figures”.) Have you been flagged? No. You don’t have a similar viewpoint. So obviously, if one pays attention and actually can read and see things, they’ll realize that everything you just said in regards to pirates censoring people is a blatant and obvious lie. Because if it wasn’t, you’re comment wouldn’t be visible for others to read.

          “but when someone sees you for who you are, you panic and do whatever it takes to remove the post. ”

          Okay, perhaps you can explain to me how calling people “worthless bitches” “stupid fucks” and “bitch mothers” is seeing someone for who they are? To my trained eye, I do speak English and insults quite well, that is not seeing someone as they are. That is clearly and obviously generalized personal attacks on everyone on this site. Which Lakawak is known for doing. Thus, as I’ve already pointed out, deserves to be flagged for moderation. He’s not actually saying anything beyond insulting people.

          Nice try Jack. Yet again, more proof of how deluded you are, and further evidence against you in regards to lack of intelligence/rational thought. You know, I’m starting to think you like being proven wrong regularly and that you get some kind of sick pleasure from it. That would be the only logical explanation for you continuing to come on this site, saying incorrect things, and then watching them get proven wrong.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

        Uhm, the sites in question contain nothing more than small quotes and a link to the respective article. That’s hardly what lakalawk was talking about. How about if the same fictitious site created carbon copies of torrentfreak tv and then proceeded to make money off it it through advertising? Hey sharing is caring, right?

        And lol @ whoever is flagging him. You pirates rant about censorship time after time, but when someone sees you for who you are, you panic and do whatever it takes to remove the post. Pirates have no problem with censorship it seems as long as it furthers your agenda of being the only ones with a voice.

    • Andy

      You can keep all your proud DVDs on your shelf. I prefer my virtual folders which show up quite nicely on my menu driven Popcorn Hours throughout my house with the highly regarded Aeon skin.

    • JackMurdockSucks

      “Such a great example of how much hypocrisy there is in the anti copyright movement. I bet if any of them had any hand in creating something, they wouldn’t want people tossing it around without permission. Everyone has something they value and to say that that only that which is yours mattter is asnaine. ”

      And you Jack would know all about hypocrisy, as I’ve pointed out repeatedly in a number of articles. If you actually read the comments and the articles, beyond headlines, you’d see that quite a few people on this site are actual content creators (be it music, videos, literature, software, games, etc) and quite a few of us, myself included, gladly share what we create. Which shoots down what you just said. Of course, you wouldn’t be aware of any of this, because you have always essentially stated that your views are the views of all “creators” and you always seem to speak for the “artists”. Isn’t that right? Per your own previously stated words that is.

      You should probably not speak in regards to hypocrisy at all again though. Because if you’d like I’ll go through your comment history and post a few pieces of your own hypocrisy. Which would make you look way worse than you already do, because their pieces where the side you support does something wrong, gets called out on it, and then you go on to denounce the people doing the calling out. As in “how dare they, don’t they have better things to do” or “wow, they use such tactics to distract people from the truth, etc”. Want me to post those bits? Cause I will. Just say the word, Jack Murdock Professional Hypocrite and Troll.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

        Hmmm, I wonder if these content creators are responsible for the same content that people are pilfering? I wonder if the people who are referring to soley depend on the compensation from their creative efforts or do they have other sources of income? I doubt you would “gladly share what you create” if it was the only way that you made a living. Someone who makes free flash games in their spare time for fun is hardly the same as movie studio.

        By all means, let’s see what you’ve got on my comment history.

        • JackMurdockSucks

          Well, could you be more specific? Are the “content creators” you’re now speaking of some of the ones I referred to commenting here? Or are you speaking in the sense of the studios/labels (aka the guys who profit off the work of others)? Or are you referring to the artists/musicians who create the content that the copyright groups profit off of? Etc. You’re sentences tend to be fragmented. I’m reading that second one of yours in that comment and it appears to be missing a word or two, which kind of throw it off and lead to various interpretations.

          And what’s wrong with having multiple sources of income? You make it sound bad. In this day and age, I think most people have multiple sources of income (even if they aren’t “official” jobs of one sort or another) . From the kid down the street who mows lawns on weekends, while working at a fast food joint during the week, in addition to doing work study at the local college. To the police officer who moonlights as a security guard in his off time. To teachers who wait tables on weekends. Etc.

          Let’s see, I have three sources of income. Two from the health care industry and one from IT. All are meager and part time. And yes, I personally would share what I create, even if it was the only way I made a living. In fact, I actually do share what I create freely, with no interest in being paid for any of it. Why? I’m not greedy, nor have I ever been. As long as I make enough in one way or another to scrape by then I’m content. If you can’t make it in any industry, then that’s no ones fault but your own. Placing the blame on “pirates” or “foreign countries stealing jobs” or etc is a crock. No one has a guaranteed job/income source. You either adapt as needed or you don’t. Pointing fingers at various “evils” does nothing to actually help you or your industry. Whatever it may be.

          Actually, I’m in a lazy/recovering from the weekend type mood right now. So without doing exact quotes, I can point out the recent article about the MPAA being behind the goings ons in Australia, which was pointed out by one journalist. Who you essentially scoffed and insulted and said he should be doing better things, then you went on to say “if news papers were being blah blah blah piracy blah blah blah crying blah blah blah”. That about sums up your comment and your hypocrisy. Let’s see in that same comment you went on about propaganda and how it was bad on the part of said journalist or whatnot, while failing to recognize that the MPAA/RIAA have been releasing propaganda for over a decade. So your comment was basically nothing but hypocrisy on your part. You pointing out what the journalist did and labeling it propaganda just because you didn’t approve of the fact that someone shed light on what the MPAA was doing, which was releasing propaganda in their favor (which you approve of). Basically, you don’t mind what the studios/labels do (whatever it may be, legal/illegal, moral/immoral, etc.) but when someone does the same thing you start crying about it and saying how it’s “propaganda” “hypocrisy” “censorship” etc. You pretty much spin those things into a negative whenever anyone uses them against you or the studios/labels. That’s hypocrisy. You know what you wrote, you can go into the article and get the exact quote you yourself said. I’m too lazy to do it myself. And that’s just one recent example, there are others. Why should I have to reiterate and quote things you know you’ve said? Besides, what’s the point? I point it out, you’ll ignore it. Or you’ll try and spin it and turn it around, as evidenced by your own quote against that journalist. It’s all fair when you and your ilk are doing it, but when someone else does, you cry “foul”. Thus you are a hypocrite.

  • Priaprai

    Should’ve hosted the site outside of US. There are still alot of countries that are not bribed or coerced by the US yet, host your sites there. US is quickly becoming the worse place to host a website, maybe even worse than China.

  • Bruddah

    hmm

    pleaded guilty and admitted profits of £500k

    he will do ok for playing ball, wouldn’t want to be one of the one’s denying it tho

    sharing for profit, never good imo, i hope they rot in jail

    • Joe011088

      The whole point is to profit off it what people dont realize is generally u make more money if you give free stuff away. Sounds wrong but its true. Plus i bet there server costs wernt that much mayb 1000 a month but thats pishing it because when u think about it megavideo did all the work they pretty much “iframed” it onto there site.

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  • Lmao

    the other defendants are screwed. When the feds indict multiple perps its usually the first one to plead that gets the best deal. The others now have less leverage bc their asses are cooked based on testimony and cooperation of first guy.

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  • Mark

    Can’t wait to see Phara taken down a peg or two, self-important bitch needs to rot for a while

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