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Planned BitTorrent Pirate Punishments Spark Protest

In a few months, millions of alleged BitTorrent pirates in the US will risk being punished by their Internet providers. While the plan was announced a year ago, protests against it have only started to heat up this week. In just a few days more than 90,000 people have signed a petition asking their Internet providers not to participate, and many more are expected to follow.

selloutLast year the MPAA and RIAA signed a ‘ground-breaking’ deal with all the major Internet providers in the United States.

In an attempt to deter online piracy, a third-party company will collect the IP-addresses of alleged infringers on BitTorrent and other public file-sharing networks.

The ISPs will then notify these offenders and tell them that their behavior is unacceptable. After six warnings the ISP may then take a variety of repressive measures, which include cutting off the offender’s connection temporarily.

After the initial announcement things went quiet, but that changed last week when the RIAA and the Center for Copyright Information confirmed that all major ISPs will start warning BitTorrent users this summer.

This renewed attention resulted in wide press coverage, and also sparked massive protests. Activist group Demand Progress quickly switched back to SOPA-style campaign mode and launched a petition asking ISPs to cut out of the deal.

“They’re selling us out,” the group writes.

“Just weeks after Internet users from across the globe came together to beat SOPA, the major ISPs are cutting a deal with Big Content to restrict web access for users who are accused of piracy.”

The call didn’t go unheard, and within 24 hours more than 60,000 people signed the petition. Today this number has swelled to more than 90,000 and the end still isn’t in sight.

Earlier this week the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) also expressed its concerns over the so-called ‘graduated response’ system. They highlight that the agreement puts the burden of proof on the alleged file-sharers, which doesn’t seem fair considering the many wrongful accusations that can occur.

“One key problem is the arrangement shifts the burden of proof: rather than accusers proving infringement before the graduated response process starts against a subscriber, the subscriber must disprove the accusation in order to call a halt to it,” EFF writes.

“Worse, accused subscribers have to defend themselves on an uneven playing field. For example, they have only ten days to prepare a defense, and with only six pre-set options available. Of course, there’s no assurance that those who review the cases are neutral, and the plan sorely lacks consequences for an accuser who makes mistaken or fraudulent claims.”

The EFF informed TorrentFreak that they plan to launch an activism campaign in the near future to raise awareness of these issues.

How ‘bad’ the graduated warning system turns out to be largely depends on what punishments Internet providers intend to hand out. Needless to say, a temporary reduction in bandwidth is less severe than cutting people’s Internet access.

At TorrentFreak we are interested in finding out which third-party company will be hired to monitor people’s BitTorrent downloads, and how solid their evidence gathering methods are.

This is important, because the RIAA’s previous partner MediaSentry used rather shoddy techniques which resulted in many false accusations. The RIAA’s current partner DtecNet also has shortcomings as they fail to understand how BitTorrent works.

As we move closer to the July deadline more details should emerge. At the same time the online protests are also expected to increase, both through public initiatives and various advocacy groups. While it’s doubtful that they will ever get the same exposure as the SOPA revolt, there is no doubt that these protests will be noticed.

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  • Anyone

    are there any ISPs not in the deal?
    if there are not how long should it take for them to emerge?

    • Another anon

      MAFFIA have gave us all Trypophobia.

      Time to be not afraid and fight back

      • Anon

        They gave us all an irrational fear of holes in our skin?

        • SS

          The real war begin . Guys it is simple to shout down the corporations system

          Simply STOP BUY BOYCOTT , refuse their products , cancel your ISP agreement ,stop use internet from your home , theay all will loose huge amount of money , that money our money gives them power , is fuel for corruption , to bribe politicians , for lobby , to pay lawyers , to break our rights etc .
          Without our money they all will fail
          Give them a lesson , put them under pressure , their power is in our pocket !

          Think about what happen if in one day people will leave IPS , will boycott corporations , i think they have a big surprise , without money they cannot continue to exist
          To win people must be UNITED , becouse corporations are united to f..k us , so we must united to fight back
          Also f..k theirs laws and dont pay any fines , dont fear about that , they cant put in jail milions people (yeah just in US are milions people who download movies , music etc etc, over the globe i think people who download are a billion or more ) think about that , it is utopia to belive they will fight with billion people (they havent enough money and jails for that , will be huge costs then profit , that action is not sustainable, also that people im shure will fight back, will boycott, , will stop use internet (that mean another huge money losses ) will make protests , revolutions (that mean violences, destructions so another money losses) ,will involve in political activity , will make new party – see Pirate Party – im shure if people will be prosecuted , that kind of partyes will win elections , will change laws and destroy corporations ), in all cases they will loose this “war”
          So dont fear , go on streets , make protests, sign petitions , involve in political activity , put pressure on your local politicians , vote party like Pirate Party at elections and all problems will be solved after

        • http://www.facebook.com/ValhallaLegend Andrew Lee

          Well SS I wish it were that easy lol but they already have millions in jail for non violent drug related crimes. It’s not really too hard to see them doing it for something else that’s just as pointless. However as more and more privatized prisons come around there will be a bigger need for inmates to fill them prisons.

          Also with the guilty till proven innocent mindset the USA adopted years ago I can see a lot of people getting fucked hard when this happens.

          Usually I will come around and joke about a lot of the stuff making up the very worst case scenarios but sadly this is not one of them times.
          Shit will start getting serious enough to cause a revolution very fucking soon. We can count on that but what side will you be on? Many of us have already chosen our side.

          Well I can’t just not make one joke ^.^
          When they’re drilling holes in our heads to install MPAA/RIAA chips you’ll wake up.
          When it’s actually in your best interest to move to North Korea you’ll wake up.

          I feel better! well kinda >.<

  • Sfoxman

    Maybe it’s the end of the internet. If it is true that the Internet users only acceding to the Internet for illegal downloads.

    • Anyone

      you can get a VPN
      that way all your connection are encrypted and not connected to your home-IP adress (but rather to the IP of the VPN)

      that’s more money the MAFIAA will not get, mission accomplished

      • Sense

        Well you are wrong actually. If the MAFIAA own some VPN providers, then it will be more cash for them. Think about it, they get the solution of a problem they created. :)

        • Honeypot

          Any honeypot VPNs will be vetted quite quickly.

      • Sketch

        ive been saying it for years VPN OR DIE PIRATES lol, the only way your isp can figure out what your downloading is thru a deep packet inspection, and those take a court order because they are expensive in money and man power………

        • Rock

          A lot of B.S. there. If you’re hooked up to a VPN over an encrypted link then the ISP can’t see shit no matter what they do. DPI doesn’t reveal anything. All deep packet inspection is is looking through the body (main content) of a packet rather than just the header (informative info), but if the contents are encrypted then all they ever see is gibberish. Also, running DPI in no way requires a court order; ISPs are free to use DPI everywhere, though there may be restrictions generally on what an ISP can do with the data it reads (restricted through privacy laws, etc). DPI also requires very little manpower to operate as it’s typically just a box that needs some simple configuring. Once that’s taken care of it runs itself.

      • IFUXXSYSTEMS

        They provide a service.
        Over the internet.

        A non-US server/company is needed.
        Sorry for your lack of freedom

    • Anonymous

      Easy to say when they can make anything we do or say illegal & take it down whether it is or not. The MEGA song is a prime example. They want complete control over the Internet. They want it to be TV 2.0. Right now it is completely unregulated, like radio wave once were. Now we have restricted frequencies and if you use another station’s frequency without permission, you can be prosecuted. That is what they want for the Internet. Complete. Corporate. Control.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        Hit the nail on the head. These abject idiots want control over the internet so that they can tell us what to watch, when to watch it, and how to watch it.

        I’m sorry, but in the R E A L W O R L D, they don’t have that control anymore, nor should they!

      • Ouwnfe

        Hi, can these unregulated frequencies be traced? Radio waves filesharing looks cool ;)

        • Woody

          Every frequency is strictly regulated. And, yes, they can trace transmission sources pretty easily.

          They own the universe, didn’t you know?

    • Anonymous

      It’s not the end of the Internet. Perhaps it’s the begining of the end of the “corporate internet” that the copyright distributers would like to impose
      without the benefit of democratic legal process over every breathing human being on the planet.

      Something other than this “corporate” internet is possible: but, if we can’t access enough of our constitutional and civil liberties today with which to stop this corporate overreaching, in twenty years we will not know how to explain to our children that there was ever a time when the internet was something other than a digital shopping mall owned by the shareholders of ten or twenty monopoly corporations.

      Now is as good a time as any to redefine the meaning of “illegal download”.
      The copyright monopolies have taken a hundred years to give themselves the legal definitions that criminalize the public domain for a hundred years.

      What we should say to the copyright monopolies is, “Keep sodomizing your customers as citizens and we will prove to you that a five year copyright law
      attaching only to original creative artists is not only socially responsible, but possible.”

    • billions r criminals ?

      filesharing culture is at stake.

      That includes sharing ideas.
      sharing pics , altering them .
      sharing fan made music remixes.
      sharing whatever.
      NOT counterfeiting for profit , sharing copies.

      THE MARKET has spoken and said….
      ” copied endlessly at zero cost = worthless ”
      The problem is with what is “illegal” and the broad laws the corps are prepared to impose to profit from worthless copies.

      Sharing information that some overlord doesn’t want you to share ?

      • Anonymous

        I don’t get it. How is this any different/worse from what you have already. I mean the three strike system and all your mas-lawsuits. All the letters people bitch about in torrent comments, sometimes even demanding the uploader to delete the torrent because they have received a warning. Its not like this is breaking news.

        As for what to do its very simple. Don’t do business with a company that does crazy shit like this. If you are voluntarily giving money to a company that spies on you then you are the SELL OUT. Cable channels – or the internet for that matter – are not an excuse to support them. One of the reasons you live in a country where a SERVICE provider SPIES and DISCIPLINES its own customers publicly, is the fact that you have submitted to similar things in the past. They are companies that live from customers – not gatekeepers of ethics and moral.

        You guys really need to do something. Yes, there are anomalies here in Europe but the shit you put up with is unique. Watching this unfold feels absurd.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    What is needed for an effective protest is for people to pick one of the larger participating broadband providers that does not hold a regional monopoly and for protesters to cancel their subscriptions en mass. All the better if a cable provider supplying TV and phone, canel the lot.

    For an effective protest you have to create a split so that one of the large participating ISPs breaks ranks.

    You only have to look at the tactics effects on GoDaddy regarding SOPA to guage effectiveness of such tactics.

    • Someone

      I think it should be the other-way round. The smaller the ISP higher the impact is. So they will give in soon. At the same, they care less about PR compared to bigger ISP

  • Jon Cable

    My ISP is Cablevision and they said that they are NOT doing this. I would just call your ISP and say that if you are going to participate in this stuff then disconnect all my services on that date! Thank you! When they see everyone disconnecting they will follow the money.

    • Anonymous

      There will be many customers who think this is a good idea but when the inevitable innocent grannies get disconnected even they will come out against this.

    • http://twitter.com/Ryanhacun Ryan Hacunda

      If I did this it would have to be a bluff. My local ISP holds a monopoly in this area. I don’t have anywhere else to go.

      • Jon Cable

        You can tough it out for a month. I have done it.

        • http://twitter.com/Ryanhacun Ryan Hacunda

          No. No I cannot.

        • Pierce

          No sorry. One month without Internet is like one month without food.

  • AnonArt

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    • Guest

      We don’t want you kids on the site. Please leave.

    • Steve

      Beautiful.

  • Anon1

    I’m still unclear about this: will they send out warnings to people who START downloads in July, OR, will they send out warnings for downloads from all of last year and this year up to July? So iow if I download something today and I’m stupid enough to not use my VPN, will my IP be on the list of warnings? Its rather hard to articulate the question but hopefully someone can give me an answer…

    • Distortion

      They’ll probably do it on-the-fly pretty much, so they’ll be pulling you for recent stuff. They do have the capability to operate otherwise, but I don’t think they will. I’m guessing it’s going to run just the same as the long-established C+D notice system did/does.

      I wouldn’t worry yourself about it too much, they’re all bark, no bite, most the time.

      • Anonymous

        Concur. This, right here…

        “The RIAA’s current partner DtecNet also has shortcomings as they fail to understand how BitTorrent works.”

        …tells me most about anything. A big bunch of scammers with little knowledge of law and even less in technology? And they’ll mass-mail out to dead people, pets, people who don’t own a computer…and possibly the odd filesharer. Demanding protection money or an expensive lawsuit over the flimsiest premise they think they can get away with.

        As long as there is no law on the books severely penalizing false claims, the “mass-mail extortion model” will continue.

  • Anon

    My big ISP cannot keep proper records about what contract plan I’m on when I talk to their customer service. So now they’re going to maintain an IP database for copyright violation complaints? Total nonsense. Time to start protesting now rather than waiting for them to send erroneous letters.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Well, I have to say that I have never had a problem with my internet company billing me for the ‘wrong plan’, but I’ve heard of some horror stories so you do have a good point there.

  • Sdsd

    VPN. Simple.
    Refer to torrentfreaks own list of VPN providers who do not log.
    Problem solved.

    • R Hutwohl

      A VPN is a great solution. But what is happening is Comcast my ISP frequently disconnects my connection and I have to go back and reconnect my GPS by then they know what I’m doing.

      • Anonymous

        Get a default VPN solution. i.e. either tell your computer to use the vpn proxy by default – or if you are less savvy, use a vpn with a client which refuses chosen applications internet access save by the tunnel. Ivacy uses this but there are other VPNs with the same idea.

  • anon

    Dont let this pass because it will just be the start. Because now they dont say they cut u off internet completely is just to make u accept this basis so they can just implement it later..That’s why they now also say after 6 failures. They just want this implemented and then they will make it tougher

    • Gae

      Correct.
      It will begin with ‘It’s not as bad as people think, you will only get warning letters and maybe a slower connection’ then 6 months later the copyright holders say ‘This way isn’t working, we are not making millions more money. We want subscribers cut off as soon as we accuse them’.

  • Anonymous

    Enforcing this more will just generate more false notices of infringement and piss off customers. The DMCA is already abused like hell.

    http://dmca.cs.washington.edu/

  • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

    I’m one of the 90,000 whose signed. Keep petitioning when they see the reactions of their customers things will change. The mpaa/riaa won’t pay them for loss of customers not to forget future customers and losses.

  • Guest

    Why does this make waves when it happens in the US, while other countries have had this for years?

    • Anyone

      bigger country, more people

    • Jamesd

      Other countries, the people are more united. The US is dog eat dog and a cesspool of immigrants doing their own thing.

      • anon

        Doesn’t make sense. The US is more united, hence people protest when shit like this start. In other countries like France, people have been enduring this like mute sheep for years.

        • Anonymous

          Well, not quite. In France the reaction to HADOPI was a 3% rise in filesharing immediately. Generally speaking the french don’t argue much with their government. They just quietly disregard it.

    • Anonymous

      It has made waves in other countries as well. However, in many other countries people are already used to heavy-handed abuses of power and have their own way of dealing with it.

      HADOPI in France passed with nary a hitch, for instance. The response by the french citizenry was predictable. Filesharing rose 3% immediately as many ordinary french citizens sought out pirates in order to learn how to fileshare just to spite their government.

  • anon

    VPN should not be the answer, Internet is pretty much a human right. It was already declared a human right in the EU UK last year i believe.

  • foff

    How interesting that this starts at about the same time as the olympics. Anyway it will never work. This simplest way to beat this system is disconnect your internet. After one day you are a new customer. I see a lot of disconnections and reconnections. What a fucking nightmare the isp’s are creating for themselves.

    • You’re a Moron.

      Yes king retard, because your ISP totally does not keep records of what your IP is and when.

      • foff

        It works for me. If you disconnect your old records are not connected to your new your new records because as a new customer you are given a new clean ip.
        It does not matter what records they keep if they get a notice on a closed account they can’t do anything even if you have a new account. The ip does not equal a person. Once an ip is dead then as far as the isp is concerned the person to whom the ip was assigned no longer exists.

        • Anon1

          What ISP do you have? I doubt it would work for all of them, I’d have to see more data to back up your claim.

      • Trollhater

        ISPs keep all records (according to law) for an unspecified amount of time. They have an insane amount of data. This includes IP at any given time. So if you have a dynamic IP and you are accused of infringement on a certain date your ISP can tell which IP you had on that date. This has been proven to me by the recent porn infringement cases.

    • anon

      What will that achieve? Do you think its a lot of work to disconnect and reconnect customers? The installations at your place are already done. Call center employees or their higher ups can disconnect and reconnect you at the click of a button without issue. Infact the ISPs can benefit from this if they demand fresh reactivation charge for a new connection.

  • trinsic

    I have another more targeted petition going to basically outright reject all forms of copyright abuse by pledging not to purchase products from the organizations who front RIAA and the MPAA.

    Sign the petition and make the pledge.
    http://www.change.org/petitions/no-more-attacks-on-file-sharing-culture-and-technologies-pledge

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    The other way of dealing with this is mass disobedience

    1. Everyone use routers that support open wifi guest accounts to encourage others
    2. Ignore the threats and download all those honeypot new releases purely for the sake of gumming up their system.

    Once the ISPs bluff has been called they are then faced with going ahead with the threats, triggering a mass of account closures.

    These bluff and bluster 3 strikes tactics only work if people are herded in the desired direction. The shepherd does not expect the sheeple to hold their ground and give his dog a good kicking.

    • aXXo

      Take a video of your dog taking a shit.

      Save as 700 MB avi file. Upload to tpb.

      Call it “The.Hurt.Locker.aXXo.avi”

      Let the fun begin.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AXXo

  • Anonymous

    as long as people want to have the internet and have to pay, some ISPs will take no notice at all. not, that is, until the backlash gets to the ‘SOPA’ levels and a mass exodus occurs from participating companies to ones that value customers more than catering for backward thinking corporations

  • Scudman180

    i agree the best way to beat this is to just cut them out if u have no net they have no money so then the hole thing breaks down and they have no way to do it and stop this bull
    the hole word runs on money when the money stops flowin the world tumbles and so will the companys comein up with this

  • john

    Where can i find a complete list of the ISPs that agreed to this so that i my find an internet provider in my area that is not involved with this? thanx

  • Pasttense

    Could someone point me to a list of the ISPs who have signed on and a list of those who haven’t?

  • My Way

    I am not too concerned. Since i started SHARING files a few years ago, i have been forwarded maybe about TEN warnings from third party distributors through my ISP. Nothing has changed for me. I promise this though, If i start getting throttled, my ISP WILL lose the recurring monthly revenue generated by me.. The 5H17 is not cheap, either. So, make a decision: Sell out to MAFIAA or keep valued customers..

    I even got letters for individual episodes of Parks And Recreation from NBC. Which i find laughable because i also pay for cable TV, which includes NBC. But i shouldn’t be allowed to DL it when i get home and watch it on my computer upstairs? Where i do not have the cable run? I suppose a solution in their eyes would be for me to run cable upstairs and RENT their POS DVR. But guess what? I dont HAVE to do that. As every week i just DL the HD TV that i want to watch, and its commercial FREE. I would rather watch NO digital content then be FORCED to watch it THEIR way!! Of course i will still trade HDDs with friends and family. And maybe even resort to Redbox if i have to and rip ‘em… $1 isn’t TOO unreasonable for a movie, but with a lot of the garbage coming out these days, sometimes it is. SMH.

  • Victord66

    “a third-party company will collect the IP-addresses of alleged infringers on BitTorrent and other public file-sharing networks.”

    Where and how do they collect IP addressess?

    • Anyone

      straight out of their ass

    • Guest

      >how do they collect IP addressess?

      Through methods whose accuracy have never been verified or examined in a court of law or forensics, yet is passed off as rock-solid infallible evidence.

      • Anonymous

        Do you mean the methods where they ask the local soothsayer or the one where they try to track down downloaders due to ip? I’m a bit confused as both seem to have generally the same degree of accuracy.

    • BSOD

      They typically have a bunch of systems configured, usually at major hosting providers, that enter popular swarms to log activity.

  • Anon

    I would like to pay for the music and videos i watch and listen, but only if i can afford it and do it the way i like. Unfortunate there almost none of it. The only legal alternative for me is not to watch or listen. Then they may die, i would not care.

  • Dt

    how many of you would be willing to take a trip to new york and protest some isp company or something?

  • John Space

    Well, they won’t see my IP in 4shared anymore, since now this website only lets registered or premium users download.

  • anonymous

    People will find the graduated punishment for all movies as a whole to be discriminatory and will demand for each movie allegedly infringed a notice of infringement just like google is allowed.

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  • Mwhahaha

    How will this be any more successful than any of the other protests on this subject? The ISPs don’t want to do it their customers don’t want them to either. Why bug the ISPs?

  • Trollhater

    Well 6 warnings is wonderful compared to getting a subpoena like I did and having 7 days to respond. No warnings. Face a settlement for $3400, a court case judgement maybe $10000 or lawyer up for $1000 to $10000 then have a second subpoena served.The madness never ends.

    The trolls and MAFFIA types are true Cosa Nostra and they call people “pirates”. At least there is a reasonable chance to turn this around. ISPs can lose customers=$$ over this. I need to research.

    Signed the petition now if my ISP is involved I am going to shop for an alternative and anyone who gives a shit should do the same. My pissed off meter is pegged at max!

    • Noneone

      From what I have read you still can get sued. My guess with agreements like this it makes it easier to get your info. Plus this is A really bad idea if I was A ISP, due to having to pay half and the issue of customers leaving due to privacy concerns, throttling and/or the treat of disconnection.

    • Bloaxor

      Best part about this is that they’re really selling their customers out.
      Who pays the bill? The ones who want it? No. The ISPs? Not quite.

      It’s you, the customer. YOU’RE going to pay for THEM to track YOU.

      god bless america o/

      • Jen

        And it’s going to happen here in Canada, too, because the US has pressured our government to go along with it all. We’ve even had police departments suggesting a tax on our phone bills to pay for them to spy on us. Bah!

  • Meaow

    All we need to do is basically set up trackers to create fake IP addresses in swarms that cover 100% of all American IP addresses… They will either pull the plug on everyone or more likely just give up!

    • Flakyp

      Who says they’re gonna query trackers directly for addresses? Unlikely for that very reason. They’ll sit in swarms and pull the addresses of active peers.

  • exploding diarrhea

    The encryption must flow.

    • Toonice

      Encryption won’t help you here as they’re sat on the receiving end, not in the middle.

      • Trollhater

        With VPN the data remains encrypted until it reaches your PC. The ISP can detect the IPs you are connected to (your VPN IP address), can detect the amount of data transfer and ports used etc, but can not tell what files are being downloaded or uploaded.

        • Toonice

          And I never said otherwise. The thing protecting you there is a proxied connection, not encryption. Encryption itself does nothing for you if you’re firing dodgy data data over to a hostile peer. There is no issue of man-in-the-middle-attack here, the attacker is the peer itself. The ISPs are not doing the monitoring here, the media companies are employing third-party companies to do it that directly participate in the swarms.

        • Anonymous

          @Toonice

          Which is why tunneling is the bread and butter for filesharing. That, or onion routing protocols. Given that the attacker is a peer in the swarm you need to ensure that neither the query nor the file transfer can be certified as coming from the client whose ip you see on the host list.

  • ColonelBorg

    Well, we can use one of these software using wifi cards to build a p2p network without using any ISP. If they start bothering people with this repressive BS this is what will happen. The LAN part of home routers might become obsolete soon.

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  • starnostar

    This is TOTALLY going to get me to pay 40 bucks for a single blu-ray movie!!…/sarchasm

  • Anonymous

    I understand legal process to mean that someone who wishes to allege a valid claim, files it in court before a judge.

    They don’t just get togeather with ten or twenty like minded parties and agree in a writing amongst themselves the precise standards under which each private citizen shall be deprived administratively of property or legal rights on the basis of claims not actually vetted before a court.

    What’s more important, who gets to write immunity from liability into this private accord for the benefit of private parties (don’t forget, these are not government actions by government entities). These ISP’s and media giants, might have an understanding with Eric Holder’s DOJ that citizen complaints will be treated slowly; but the Supreme Court is unlikely to have given anyone any assurances that resulting future liabilities will dissappear in the abscence of explicit written law granting that immunity.

    Can ISP’s and content providers just give themselves legally effective immunity under a process of their own creation which will undoubtedly inflict massive losses on customers and citizens? I think the answer is not quite and not quite yet. We must remember from recent bitter memory that a foremost component of both PIPA and SOPA was the provisioning of private parties (read ISP’s, MPAA, Banks, Payment providers, etc,) with quasi governmental authority to act detrimentally against the rights and properties of alleged filesharers without prior judicial process and with immunity for the resulting liabilities. Precisely these attributes were the most cited reasons for the vast public outrage which bitchslapped American politicians into flushing both SOPA and PIPA down the toilet bowl.

    If SOPA and PIPA had passed, today this new array of ISP/MPAA rules would be the consequent outflow of written law and the legal text granting immunity from liability would be citation one preceding any action against filesharers; but, let’s get this straight: SOPA and PIPA failed! DIDN”T THEY? Therefore, this upcomming system of threats, independent of prior judicial process, is nothing other than a private accomodation between powerful monopoly enterprises administratively defining how they choose to treat their customers and says nothing dispositive about future claims for liabilities.

    As far as I can see, these rules are nothing more than SOPA and PIPA without the names; also, without the legal immunity that would have come to the copyright monopolies and their minions had they caught the winning touchdown in the legislative infield in 2011. What happens if we don’t fight these rules as adamantly as we fought SOPA an PIPA?

    They’ll write themselves immunity within the legislature, rather than just within a private agreement.

  • DRuNKeN MaSTeR

    Whatever happened to “innocent until proven guilty”?!?! This reminds me of an episode of Stargate SG-1 where Teal’c was captured on a planet which had a system of “guilty until proven innocent”… :(

  • Naman

    How can Bittorrent be a US based company, and Utorrent as well? 
    I don’t Understand

    • Rarandonm

      Neither do I, your question that is.

    • Anonymous

      Because both companies are NOT driven by the MPAA?

      The “adversary” when it comes to filesharing can be quite clearly defines as a very narrow range of interests – ones who spend more lobbying money in congress than most other tech companies have ever found necessary.

  • foff

    So suppose you download 250 gigs a month via cyber lockers. With a download the most they could sue you for would be the cost of media. Now are the isp’s going to play judge and jury and say you are downloading way to much so you must be a pirate.

    This worries me.

    My other question is, I can see how you can monitor a torrent via a tracker but with magnet links you cannot simply connect, disconnect and reconnect to verify an ip is sharing over a certain amount of time so how do they plan to identify ip’s and what proof can the have that you shared much of anything? You could have been a hit and runner.

    Finally as one poster pointed out a lot of downloading is time shifting and not really piracy. I have cable but rarely watch a show when it airs. I always download, Watching a show with commercials seems almost old fashioned.

    Even if I give up downloading I can guarantee that my media purchases will remain close to zero. I love to read, i will always buy books but I will never buy an ebook. The price they want is obscene and for now I do not have a reader. I have purchase a grand total of two movies from the $5 bin at walmart in the the last five years. Nothing will change that ever period, even if I win a lottery I will still never buy a bunch of disks. They are nothing more then a waste of space.

    The mafiaa is fighting a losing battle, Digital = Public domain.

  • Anonymous

    The telecommunications industries of the United States (and, for that matter, most other countries), operate as monopolies. (They cannot be considered oligopolies to the extent that they operate in unison to confront their customers with a united front of of terms and conditions under which customers cannot refuse the terms of trade and still meet their needs.)

    For this reason the telecommunicatios industry is extensively regulated; but, we must all be asking ourselves (and our legislators and the relevant regulators), what kind of a regulator tolerates the imposition of additional onerous terms on the customers of the regulated enterprise by corporate third parties having no connection to either the operating requirements of the regulated business or the quality of service that the regulated business owes its customers?

    A more concrete formulation of the above question would be to ask, “If Verizon, AT&T, COMCAST, and Cablevision, can admit that the have accumulated a spare half billion dollars with which to help Disney, NBC, ABC, CBS, and Triple P Porn
    Flics protect their media profits from filesharers by agreeing to impose and manage a coercive regime wholly unrequired by law on all including innocent customers, isn’t that an admission that they have OVERCHARGED their customers and should instead be required to use or return those funds to benefit those customers?”

    It is the REGULATOR who should be the first line of control making sure that the telecommunications enterprise puts its business and its customers FIRST. The existential purpose of the telecommunications enterprise is to provide its customers with the best possible telecommunications service at the LOWEST possible price. Any expense incurred to protect the the rights of media companies is not compatible with this purpose. That is a condition, first and foremost, of REGULATORY failure. Why? Because the existential purpose of the regulator is to assure that regulated enterprises do not collude against the public interest The necessary loud NO to the media companies is too important to be considered the responsibility of the TELCOMs alone.

    The REGULATORS must be made to answer publicly for the adoption and implementation of these bad policies and the terrible damage that will be done.

  • Anonymous

    there should be no ISP participation in any of this whatsoever! why should other companies have to keep sorting out the entertainment industries shit at their own expense? ISPs and every other type of internet related company and organisation should band together and fight against this, not go along with it when they get no benefit from it. after all, where are the losses going to come? they will be everywhere except the entertainment industries. and they dont even offer any viable alternatives either!

    a family loses it’s internet connection. kids cant do home work, no one in the family can buy stuff on-line, from a sweater to a holiday. no one can use the bank on line. no one can communicate with anyone out of earshot, unless a fortune is paid for the phone call. and after all this and any thing else that is stopped, the entertainment industries expect people to then go running around like headless chickens, trying to find the cinema, or get to the store to buy a dvd, blu-ray or music cd. would anyone in their right mind do anything to support the very industries that just put me into this position? it will be a large ‘piss off’ from me! and once i had gotten used to no internet, would i go back, if asked? i doubt it, particularly if the conditions were the same as before. so, to keep 1 industry afloat, countless others lose out. where’s the sense in that?

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  • Neb12

    the way folks are acting, you would think everybody in the world is pirating everything.
    This is simply not true. I figure few people actually know how to assemble a BT into a DVD. The whole thing seems to be an excuse to air Pinky and the Brain reruns.

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    At TorrentFreak we are interested in finding out which third-party company will be hired to monitor people’s BitTorrent downloads, and how solid their evidence gathering methods are.

    Doesn’t matter. Why can’t we sue our ISP for wiretapping if they decide to watch what we do?

    Particularly since video games like WoW and DnDOnline use bittorrent, why are they wanting to throttle?

    • /usr

      Dur, the ISP isn’t going to be “wiretapping” anything, a third-party company is going to log you in the swarms, just exactly as they’ve been doing for years.

      You people are dumb…

      • Neb12

        speak for yourself…………….

      • Anonymous

        Actually, you might make a related case here that there is, in fact, a lot of pushed-for legislation which actually DOES provide the ISP liability to monitor the traffic of their customers. The EU data retention directive, for instance, demands this.

        It’s actually understandable that people are by now a bit confused as to which specific method of mass surveillance is being debated. Or who will carry it out.

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  • anonymous

    It is time for a safe harbor for bittorrent users.

  • Anonymouse

    I see an opportunity If all the big players want to end their Dominance who am I to argue.

  • Mikko

    >all major ISPs will start warning BitTorrent users

    Even users that downloads legal files with BitTorrent ?

  • Fake

    It’s a trap. Once the ISPs admit they can monitor connections for content, then they are potentially liable for everything.

    ISPs are greedy monopolists but at least ISPs provide a service. The very root of the copyright cabal is extorting rent in perpetuity without providing any service.

    One of the reasons China has had such economic growth is that they don’t pay the copyright cabal extortion. The money they save can be invested in new production instead.

    Remember the guy who gave a bad stock review online and the company demanded the website tell them who the guy was, etc? Well, the copyright cabal will expect ISPs to hand over the names of everyone who gave the latest box office flop a bad review. They couldn’t possibly have lost money on the 5th remake of Garfield! It must be those evil pirates giving bad reviews. They will be sued for the $150M the movie cost to make plus the $99999999999999999 profit it surely would have made if some guys on the net hadn’t given it such a bad review.

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  • Koolbigkat

    I suppose that one way to protest innocence is, when the ISPs start their action, the subscribers, being the other partner in a commercial contract of service with the ISP, can sue the ISP for failure to provide said service, and demand that the ISPs provide proof of the so-called infringements. And when the ISPs cannot, then the subscriber can sue the asses off the ISPs. That will serve them right to play subscribers out.

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